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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That is right, Fox Sports Saturday with Kevin Figures. That

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Speaker 2: is me, Adam Alslin. That is he here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Hit us up on x at K fig

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Speaker 2: one is where you can find me. You can find

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Speaker 2: Adam at follow Adam A. Adam is going on.

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Speaker 3: Bree Bree, that is her, Bree. Did you get us

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Speaker 3: that new intro, that new fancy spancy intro.

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Speaker 2: To really shake down Bob Schmidt and veto to put

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Speaker 2: that together on your way out?

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Speaker 4: Yes, sure that is that's your gift to us on

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Speaker 4: your way out the door.

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Speaker 5: No, actually, that's Ricky Herrera. That's our imaging coordinator that

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Speaker 5: did that. That sounded pretty bad ass. I had no idea.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised. That was awesome.

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Speaker 3: We feel important, we feel respect For the first time

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Speaker 3: of my damn life.

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Speaker 4: I feel important.

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Speaker 3: So cool, Ricky. I guess we got pressured out. We

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Speaker 3: actually have to do a good show this time.

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Speaker 2: I know it's oppost of the trash we've been doing

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Speaker 2: the last five.

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Speaker 3: Six months, Adam, Time to straighten up, right, all right,

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Speaker 3: we got a good one for you today. I'd coming

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Speaker 3: up second hour. Mark Medina, Oh, our guy does it

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Speaker 3: for the NBA nationally of course in southern California covers

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Speaker 3: the Lakers and the Clippers. Who was at Crypto dot

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Speaker 3: Com Arena tonight.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst Mark Medenna, Yeah, he was

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Speaker 2: at Crypto and Adam you were working that game too.

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Speaker 3: I was not there, and I'm glad I wasn't because

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Speaker 3: I might have been, like I might have been as

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Speaker 3: upset as Coach lou was postgame with all that foul

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Speaker 3: baiting going on from Luka Doncic enough of it?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: And didn't Kay Cunningham say something about that earlier this

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Speaker 2: week too, about not getting respect or getting the same

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Speaker 2: kind of calls and all that and certain guys.

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Speaker 3: He said he's the best American player now and he

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Speaker 3: wants more respect. And then I think he went out

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Speaker 3: and dropped forty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he backed it up with his play. That's for

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Speaker 4: damn sure.

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Speaker 3: He got all the respect for me. Kate Cunningham, You're great.

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Speaker 3: I still got aunt over you as the best American

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Speaker 3: player right now. But it's getting clops all right. So

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Speaker 3: we got Mark Mendina coming up in the second hour.

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Speaker 3: But what else here, Kevin, Oh, it's talk to some

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Speaker 3: NFL coming up.

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett had some interesting comments about ring chasing versus

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Speaker 2: the getting PA, so we'll talk about that coming up

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Speaker 2: as well. Uh, some more NFL when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the Rams and where they sit, because obviously knocking on

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Speaker 2: the door of the Super Bowl, lost of the Seattle

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Speaker 2: Sehawks and the NFC Championship game, they have two first

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Speaker 2: round picks and a quarterback who could be out the

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Speaker 2: door after next season. So are you building for the future?

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Speaker 2: Are you trying to win now? You're trying to do both?

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Speaker 2: How exactly do you navigate those waters? We got a

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Speaker 2: lot to get into tonight.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you how. I'll put a little bit of

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Speaker 3: that pray the gray away on that beard of Matthew Staffords,

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Speaker 4: Men, let it flow.

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Speaker 3: He's really rocking it. He's rock great beard, He's Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 4: We also back the old men out there like me.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it the back end of this hour speaking

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Speaker 3: of old men. Now, back end, we got Breebrey leading

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Speaker 3: us in Stranger than Fiction or geek news? Which is it?

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Speaker 7: Bri It's a surprise?

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Speaker 3: Wait a second, is it gonna be? Who's the a

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Speaker 3: hole and is it me? We haven't done that segment

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Speaker 3: on five Radio and that's an intro we cannot play.

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Speaker 2: Yeh no, that's an old fn A staple from the

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Speaker 2: old FNA podcast days.

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Speaker 3: The amount of beliefs I'd have to having that intro.

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Speaker 1: You have to use so many cuss works.

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Speaker 7: I do love that segment though.

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Speaker 3: That was really good. The Dennis Leary song I'm an

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Speaker 3: a hole, He's an a hole. That was always me.

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Speaker 7: I always had to be the one to do the segment.

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Speaker 3: Adam did a couple no, no, no, I thought you meant

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Speaker 3: it was always you ending up being the a hole

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Speaker 3: dating life.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Quaite aware it. Breeze come a long way in her

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Speaker 3: final day here working for us on the f and

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Speaker 3: though with a little bit of First off.

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Speaker 4: There's time that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: So something we talked about on last week's show was

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Speaker 2: the idea of tanking in the NBA and how do

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Speaker 3: Win, just thumbing their nose at the league office. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just blatant, outright tanking.

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Speaker 4: There are times you can be cute about it.

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Speaker 2: Was like, oh, so and so got a little bit

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Speaker 3: They're taking it up a notch now, Kevin taking it.

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Speaker 2: Up anoch by saying, like, you know, the Utah Jazz

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Speaker 4: Of fact, pretty damn well.

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Speaker 2: In the case of Lori marketing through three quarters and

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Speaker 3: What do you mean because he had twenty seven points

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Speaker 2: Know what, good job, good effort, Go sit you as

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Speaker 2: and nobody's ever heard of who's probably gonna be in

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Speaker 3: Oh, that is an insult nowadays to say that this

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Speaker 3: next year. Mac mcglong should still be in it. In

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Speaker 3: my not so humble opinion, I'll.

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Speaker 4: Put it this way, why not, Well, why the hell not.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's all he's got. Yeah, he's a g leaguer.

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Speaker 3: go out there as some young star, let's say you're

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Speaker 3: VJ Edgecombe and he didn't participate, and he was one

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Speaker 4: It's embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: So they didn't let mac McClung in this year.

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Speaker 2: So that's the hard part because you can't do any

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Speaker 3: Well. I think it's just like, as we talk about

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Speaker 3: the NBA landscape as a whole, we'll get into tanking

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like just what happened at All Star Weekend.

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Speaker 3: Victor woman Yama's playing hard, Anthony Edwards is playing hard,

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Speaker 3: If a couple of them start doing it, then everybody

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Speaker 3: of good young stars with him. But who's going to

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: At least we got the three point contest and the

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Speaker 3: NBA in a nutshell, right, Dame Dalling exactly. The NBA

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Speaker 3: is in a great spot. Everything's fine, everything's perfect. You

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Speaker 3: perfectly all right now, we're fine. We're all fine here now,

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Speaker 4: Granted?

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Speaker 3: I heard Fred Rogan gave all the love to the Olympics,

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Speaker 3: Six years since twenty twenty. Yeah, you know, three of

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Speaker 3: the four games were highly competitive on Sunday, and I

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Speaker 3: mean highly competitive. Kauhi had to earn those thirty one

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Speaker 3: they made the veterans, the older stars the team stripes

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Speaker 3: have to play three games in a row. That was

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Speaker 2: I actually hurt that as an All Star alternative. Have

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Speaker 2: being determined as being.

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Speaker 3: Old thing twenty eight and above? Yeah, somebody's yeah, exactly. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: that's not old and enough because we got three guys Steph,

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Speaker 3: These guys, yeah, they're all above the age of thirty seven.

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Speaker 3: In Lebron's case it is forty.

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Speaker 4: One, and by the way, even with those guys being old.

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Speaker 2: and you put those three out there against I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards and a couple of young guys, those old

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Speaker 3: A pretty normal horny old man. Well, hey, no, that's

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Speaker 3: not what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: If it's a twelve it's twelve minutes or a full game,

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Speaker 3: They had eight guys on each team. I was surprised

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Speaker 3: They won the Heat games, which they won. The next

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Speaker 3: And they still got fined half a mill exactly.

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Speaker 2: So now the NBA, after having this meeting of the minds,

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Speaker 3: He didn't give us any buckets on the celebrity game

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Speaker 4: I said, don't play some report. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Clearly, of these scenarios that the NBA has reportedly laid out,

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Speaker 3: So they don't want in that scenario what we're seeing

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Speaker 3: People brought this up and all of this has like

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Speaker 2: The thing that people have thrown out there are just

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Speaker 3: You know, this is not new. The league office is

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Speaker 2: What second lottery odds freeze at the trade deadline or

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Speaker 3: That's kind of interesting. Now. That wouldn't have stopped things

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing too, So it was like, what's

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Speaker 3: Yes, so they're over under was like nineteen wins.

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Speaker 4: Work with there.

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Speaker 2: Teams can't pick in the top four the year after

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is stupid, Like how many scenarios? How many

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they made.

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Speaker 3: in Game seven, Tyrese Haliburton, tours Achilles. Right, So that's

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Speaker 4: How was that your fault?

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Yeah, the team that just won the championship did

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Speaker 4: Now was it intentional?

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Speaker 3: And guess what everybody's saying that, Oh, that's a loser

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Speaker 3: The Thunder won the championship partly because they tanked Kevin

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Speaker 3: They absolutely got rewarded by the basketball gods in the

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Speaker 3: where Well, where's the evidence that it's actually worked for

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Speaker 4: Oka?

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Speaker 3: See there, it is, right in front of your face. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Next one, lottery odds allocated based on two year records.

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Speaker 3: Stupid.

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Speaker 4: Nope, not a fan of that. Every season is its

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Speaker 2: Lottery extended to include playing teams That one I find

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Speaker 3: Oh wait a second, Yeah, wasn't Dallas a playing team

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Speaker 3: I thought they played Sacramento in a playing game?

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Speaker 4: Did they? I thought they missed the playoffs completely.

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Speaker 3: Let me double check on this. What's the next one?

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Speaker 4: I thought they missed the playoffs completely?

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Speaker 2: And then you have flattened the odd This is one

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Speaker 4: But I think it's the simplest solution.

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Speaker 2: Just flattened the odds for every lottery tine you most

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Speaker 4: Dallas won in fourteen chants.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't hate that. That's the quick fix, but

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Speaker 3: don't get that one. They made the play in, and

442
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Speaker 3: I think they won the first game against Sacramento and

443
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Speaker 3: then lost the second game. Okay, so here's my thing.

444
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Speaker 3: You know what I would do. I said it last week.

445
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Speaker 3: I would do nothing right now because I think you're trying,

446
00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,800
Speaker 3: and I know it's been an issue for a while,

447
00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,040
Speaker 3: but all of a sudden, this topic is joy because

448
00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,720
Speaker 3: the NFL ended, and teams are tanking much earlier than

449
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Speaker 3: usual because of the exception to the rule. The exception

450
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Speaker 3: to the rule is there's a draft this loaded this year,

451
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Speaker 3: and after this year, the next couple of drafts aren't

452
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Speaker 3: as loaded, so teams feel like we have to strike now,

453
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Speaker 3: we have to get into this draft. I get that,

454
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Speaker 3: not the situation every year.

455
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Speaker 4: I get that to it, but it is a situation.

456
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Speaker 2: Every year you at least have a couple of teams

457
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Speaker 2: and maybe it's later in the season than we are

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: We do.

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Speaker 2: Tanking is an issue and has been an issue for

461
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Speaker 2: a long period of time, and there have been people

462
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Speaker 2: have talked about an intervention to curb tanking. For it's

463
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Speaker 2: why they changed the odds. What was it five years ago?

464
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Speaker 2: I believe it was they didn't so the teams with

465
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Speaker 2: the three worst records have the same odds or whatever

466
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Speaker 2: it is, So it's not the team but the worst

467
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Speaker 2: record has the best odds. So this has been an

468
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Speaker 2: issue that it's been on the NBA's radar for a while.

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Speaker 3: I just never it's.

470
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Speaker 2: It's coming to a head now, I think for a

471
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Speaker 2: combination of reasons. Stack draft, more teams are doing it,

472
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Speaker 2: the gambling aspect, people are upset, and so it's all

473
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Speaker 2: coming to a head now. But I'm not going to

474
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Speaker 2: sit here a nect like it's not an issue that

475
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Speaker 2: shouldn't be fixed.

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Speaker 3: It's not that I don't think it's been an issue,

477
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Speaker 3: but the amount of talking heads that have made this

478
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Speaker 3: their week in sports talk, I've never seen it like

479
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Speaker 3: this before, and Adam Silver had to address it All

480
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Speaker 3: Star weekend. Good and it's because of all these outliers

481
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Speaker 3: happening at the same time, so many teams that happen

482
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Speaker 3: to be bad right now for a draft that were

483
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Speaker 3: already going to be bad, and now they're taking it

484
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Speaker 3: to an extreme being even worse. Who is it with

485
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Speaker 3: the Sacramento Kings that's out now for the season that

486
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Speaker 3: just had eye.

487
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Speaker 4: Surgery DeAndre Hunter?

488
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Speaker 3: So they got him out, That Zach Lavine's out, Keegan

489
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Speaker 3: Murray's out. They had to get everybody out. It is extreme.

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Speaker 3: It also is not going to be like this next season,

491
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Speaker 3: and it wasn't like this last season.

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Speaker 2: Well you can guarantee it's not going to be like

493
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Speaker 2: this moving forward if you find a way to make

494
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Speaker 2: an intervention to make sure that there's no incentive for

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Speaker 2: people to just tank and lose games intentionally.

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Speaker 3: My issue is you better get it right because we

497
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Speaker 3: can't come up with a solution that creates more problems.

498
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Speaker 3: And the quickest path for bad teams and bad organizations

499
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Speaker 3: are just franchises that have had bad luck or that

500
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Speaker 3: are in small markets. The quickest fix the only way

501
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Speaker 3: to end up winning a championship is defining a top

502
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Speaker 3: five or top ten guy, and they're not getting them

503
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Speaker 3: through free agency. This is the path, the way to

504
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Speaker 3: get better is to first get worse, and I think

505
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Speaker 3: if we go away from that, we might see some

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Speaker 3: franchises that are so bad for so long that the

507
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Speaker 3: NBA has a new problem where an entire fan base

508
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Speaker 3: is tuned out the sport because they have no chance, like.

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Speaker 2: Washington, Sacramento, Charlotte teams that have been like this forever.

510
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Speaker 3: Anything I'm talking about like twenty years. I'm talking about

511
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Speaker 3: like the Sacramento Kings had a long run of not

512
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Speaker 3: making the playoff. They were dysfunctional, it was their own fault.

513
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Speaker 3: They drafted poorly, Lottie. They had a chance to get Luca.

514
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Speaker 3: All that I'm talking about like five or six teams

515
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Speaker 3: going through that at once, that would be devastating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well we'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 2: I'm all gung ho for something like this, flattening odds

518
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Speaker 2: fag finding a different way to do this, because this

519
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Speaker 2: is just totally untenable at this point in time. Has

520
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Speaker 2: been going on for too long and maybe it's finally

521
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: come into a head and whatever it took, I think

522
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Speaker 2: it's something that needed to be done.

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572
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Speaker 3: We'll get into tanking and more with him. But Kevin

573
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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett made a little bit of news.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Quote Earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: I did an interview with Greg Bishop of s I

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Speaker 2: and you know, talking about the contract that he signed,

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Speaker 2: and we've talked about it, debated about, you know, paying

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Speaker 2: pass rushers who don't have much impact on winning a

580
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Speaker 2: lot of money and how a hamstrings for capping all that,

581
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Speaker 2: and so Miles was talked about the fact that he

582
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Speaker 2: feels he's gonna lose lose situation being there in Cleveland.

583
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Speaker 2: He signed a giant extension made him the highest paid

584
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Speaker 2: non quarterback in league history at the time that he

585
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Speaker 2: signed the deal. And so we say, look, I stay here,

586
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Speaker 2: people criticize me and say it I do it for

587
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Speaker 2: the money and I don't want to win. But if

588
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Speaker 2: I end up leaving, people say that I'm ring chasing.

589
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Speaker 2: So there's nothing that I can really do. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I necessarily agree with that, because if you're

591
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Speaker 2: someone who's by far the best player at his position,

592
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Speaker 2: and he's probably top five in the league regardless of position,

593
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Speaker 2: just player at all, he's in a situation where he

594
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Speaker 2: can get paid a lot of money and go to

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Speaker 2: a contender. So I don't know if I necessarily buy

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Speaker 2: that argument that people say, you're just gonna be ring

597
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Speaker 2: chasing if you leave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially when you're talking about a guy who plays

599
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Speaker 3: for the Cleveland Browns, Like we would take issue with

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Speaker 3: anybody who wanted to leave Cleveland. I'm not trying to

601
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Speaker 3: go Joe Kim Noah with it or anything like that.

602
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Speaker 3: Nobody knows what's good Cleveland. Now he's done his time.

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Speaker 3: He's done his time there. He's been spectacular for them.

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Speaker 3: No one should be in a position to complain. Yeah,

605
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Speaker 3: they owe him still, he could leave and they should

606
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Speaker 3: continue to pay him for past year's service because he

607
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Speaker 3: was that good.

608
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Speaker 2: As some guys like the situation they're in, like being

609
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Speaker 2: loyal to the organization that drafted them, Like Joe Thomas

610
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Speaker 2: state their his entire career. He's one of the best

611
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Speaker 2: players in the history of the NFL and played for

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland for ten to twelve years, didn't make the

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Speaker 2: play may have made the playoffs maybe one time or

614
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Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, he was comfortable, he got paid

615
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Speaker 2: and that was fine. I'm not gonna begrudge him that.

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Speaker 3: No one would call him a ring chaser for leaving

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Speaker 3: when you're at the top of your game and your

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Speaker 3: team is completely mismanaged and dysfunctional, like historically, not even

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Speaker 3: just in the NFL, in sports.

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Speaker 2: Well, you also have to ask me to take context

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Speaker 2: when you talk about what a ring chaser is. Leaving

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Speaker 2: a bad organization to go somewhere where you can win

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Speaker 2: and be a key part of that doesn't make you

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Speaker 2: a ring chaser. A ring chaser is a guy. A

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Speaker 2: ring chaser, no disrespect at him. Is your former Sacramento

626
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Speaker 2: King Great Mitch Richmond right in the end of the

627
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Speaker 2: Laker bench to a championship where he barely played.

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Speaker 4: I forget what year that was, oh one to row two,

629
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Speaker 4: but he didn't play.

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Speaker 3: I think we had Gary Payton on once on the

631
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Speaker 3: FNA podcast and I said in his intro something to

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Speaker 3: the effect of and he earned his ring with the

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Speaker 3: Miami Heat, unlike Mitch Richman, I'm sitting on the vetch

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Speaker 3: and Gary Payton got upset, Oh, how are you gonna

635
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Speaker 3: go after that guy? Mitche that's a Bayria boys making

636
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Speaker 3: after Mitch like the rock. That rock was fake, that

637
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: was on his that rate that he got Humans are coming,

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00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 3: that was fake. I'm sorry he didn't do much for

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Speaker 3: the Lakers, but he was also towards the end of

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Speaker 3: his career, and I don't even begrudge a guy that much.

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Speaker 4: Neither do I.

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Speaker 3: That was a number one option forever. He was an

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Speaker 3: All Star. He was great. He was in some really

644
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Speaker 3: bad situations with first of all, at the Golden State

645
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: Warriors decent, but then Sacramento and then the Wizards after that,

646
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Speaker 3: he didn't have a shot a winning.

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Speaker 2: He's the one you will put as the classes example

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Speaker 2: of I'm still hanging around. I can't really offer a

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Speaker 2: whole lot. I just want to make sure I add

650
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Speaker 2: a ring to my resume. Sure, so when people talk

651
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Speaker 2: about ring chasing, that's kind of what I think of.

652
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Speaker 2: I think of somebody like that, or someone who was

653
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Speaker 2: a great player. They take a severely reduced role. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they get off the bench for a few minutes, but

655
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Speaker 2: they're not really I ginormous factor as that team could

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Speaker 2: win a championship regardless as if they're there or not.

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Speaker 4: That is what I consider a ring chaser.

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Speaker 2: Then there's a next level which is wholly unique, and

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Speaker 2: that is Kevin Durant to the Golden State Awarriors. That's

660
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Speaker 2: a different level of ring chasing, because that is, you're

661
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: joining a team that's already great.

662
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 4: It's almost the opposite. They could win whether you're there

663
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 4: or not.

664
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: The fact that you're there just gives them astronomical odds

665
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: that they're almost guaranteed to win. Yes, So that's a

666
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: different there's two spectrums when it comes to ring chasing.

667
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: And maybe that's what crossed Miles Garrett's mind, like there's

668
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: this negative connotation about it because of what happened with KD.

669
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: But you're not KD. No, that's not close. It's a

670
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: similar situation.

671
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 4: Also a different sport.

672
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: It's such a team sport. In the NFL. You're not

673
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: going to a team that you know you are up

674
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 3: twenty eight to three against or something in the playoffs

675
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: and you let them come back to beat you. The

676
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: equivalent of KD being up three to one on Golden

677
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: State in the Western Conference Finals, losing to them, and

678
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: then joining that team. There's really no parallel. It's it's

679
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: not analogous.

680
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 2: The only parallel I guess you could draw is if

681
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: if you were to go to Kansas City, let's say

682
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: even a couple of years ago before you signed that

683
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: extension with Cleveland. You know they have Chris Jones, they

684
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: have McDuffie, they have good players on defense, and you

685
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: take significantly less while in your prime to go there

686
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: for a chance to be able to win. Now you'll

687
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: be a key call in helping them. But they didn't

688
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: necessarily need you to get them over the top. Then

689
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: I think you can probably talk. Instead of you get

690
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty three million dollars guaranteed, you get

691
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: sixty five million guaranteed, knowing you could have made so

692
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: much more, but you decide to take significantly, significantly less

693
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: to go to a team that was already stacked, then

694
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: I think you might have to He might be open

695
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: to some criticism.

696
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: How long was he in wasn't he flirting with leaving

697
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 3: Cleveland during the contract negotiation.

698
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: If he didn't get a normal trader He had a

699
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: formal trade request before he signed to the extension.

700
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: He asked for a trade, so he leveraged himself to

701
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: be able to get that contract from them threatening to leave.

702
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: So I don't think there was a situation on the

703
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: table where he was going anywhere for less money just

704
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: to chase a ring anyway that was prime. No The

705
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: only real ring chaser out there that I think of

706
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 3: is gone. Why frescious Like that's that's a ring chaser

707
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: right there. That is the definition. Sorry, I still can't

708
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: get over the fact that I just had to watch

709
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: the extended edition in theaters and sit there for five hours.

710
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, how long is he?

711
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: Because the original edition is the one I watched, and

712
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, it's still going huts three hours.

713
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: I just think it ended at least till two hours ago.

714
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: You haven't lived until you've done a Lord of the

715
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: Rings day where you spend sixteen hours watching the Lord

716
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: of the Rings.

717
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: Say no, you've died. Half your life is gone.

718
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: You watch the extended edition of every single Lord of

719
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 2: the Rings movie consecutively.

720
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: No, I only saw Return of the King in theaters,

721
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: but that was enough. That was enough, and I won't

722
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: watch the Hobbit movies ever again. I never even watched

723
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: the third one. But look ring Chasing. I think Kevin

724
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 3: Durant did take this to a direction where it scared

725
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: guys off because he never got validated. He has never

726
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: gotten the love that he thought he was going to get.

727
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: Everybody kept saying, oh, you're a great player. Where's the

728
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: ring ring culture? On Twitter, he said, Okay, bet I'll

729
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: get a ring. I'll do it with the cheat code.

730
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: I'll put in the game Genie and take the easiest

731
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: path ever to getting it. But you said I just

732
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: needed to get one right now, there's all these stipulations.

733
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: I have to get it the right way.

734
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: He's like, Nah, man, you can't just put it in that.

735
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: You can't just go grab the old the magazine with

736
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: the cheek code and put it in there and rough

737
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: everybody up by one hundred.

738
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: Nintendo Power illegitimate, totally illegitimate. Well, we'll get to more

739
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: on Kevin Durant a little bit. Yeah, but I think

740
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: that has affected the sports collective mindset with some of

741
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: these athletes because they've seen the backlash of what happened

742
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: with him in a very unique situation where there was

743
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: a fluke spike in the salary cap of thirty percent

744
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: that it went up. Even Adam Silver said that never

745
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: should have happened.

746
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: Oh, that's the only reason they got a combination of things.

747
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean, go back to the fact that Steph Curry

748
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: didn't sign the extension for as much money as he

749
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 2: could have signed because he had so many injuries early on,

750
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: so he was basically on a cheap contract even at

751
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: the time that they that the salary cap jumped that

752
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: allowed them to have the amount of money to sign

753
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. There was a combination of factors that allowed

754
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: that to happen. You talk about the talk about perfect storms,

755
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: That's exactly what that.

756
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: Was, including the Warriors blowing a three to one lead

757
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: in the finals themselves, otherwise.

758
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: I beat them.

759
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he would still go to Golden State

760
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: if they had just won back to back titles, right,

761
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: wouldn't go that far, would he?

762
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: That would have been if you would have Beaten Golden

763
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: State but then lost at State to the Cavaliers in

764
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: the finals, would you then leave Oklahoma City and go

765
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: to Golden State who you just beat? That would have

766
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: been the most fascinating experiment right there.

767
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: You know what Little B once said about Katie.

768
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: I forgot about Little B.

769
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, Who did curse James Harden in

770
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: that one playoff game where he had thirteen turnovers at

771
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: Oracle Arena against the Golden State Warriors as Little B

772
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: was sitting courtside. Believe it or not, that SoundBite. It's

773
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: the F word in.

774
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: Reverse and it sounds like love doesn't.

775
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?

776
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 6: Now?

777
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: Did he not? Did he lift his curseal Kevin Durant?

778
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: Or did? Did that never actually happen?

779
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: Is that cool? We must have because he came to

780
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: Golden State and actually, you know what, I have sympathy

781
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: for KD because the only way to break the curse

782
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: was to go to the Golden State Warriors.

783
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: Well, I guess he had to go there necessary. Okay,

784
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: that's the way he justifies it. Hey, I had a curse.

785
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: There's only one way to break it. Yeah, wait, what

786
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: option did I have?

787
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: Now? He hasn't been able to lift that curse since

788
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: he's left Golden State. It's it's all been downhill. He's

789
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: had multiple situations where he had opportunities to win at

790
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: the highest level and it hasn't panned out that way.

791
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: He didn't lift debris.

792
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, in twenty sixteen, he lifted it right after he

793
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 5: went to the Warriors.

794
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: So right after he signed with Golden State is when

795
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: it was lifted. Okay, I don't know.

796
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm feeling differently about this move by KD ten years

797
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: later retroactively.

798
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: So preservation man, I look at look the old story

799
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: of the old rock artist Robert Johnson sold his soul

800
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: to the devil to become a virtue. Also at the guitar.

801
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what happened to you, Durant. He had to

802
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: sell his soul to the devil, the devil being Little B.

803
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: Why didn't he put that in the player's choice article

804
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: where he said my next destination or my next stop

805
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: on the journey? He soon just said, in order to

806
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: stop myself from being cursed by Little B, this is

807
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: why I'm going to the Golden State Wars.

808
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: Well, he probably put it out in a tweet, but

809
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: he did it from the wrong accounts, so nobody knew

810
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: who it was.

811
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: They weren't following it. That's what it was.

812
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: It's so funny. Okay, anyway, that's good. That's even better

813
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: because it worked well with Brie.

814
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: Speaking of Bree, we have strangers in fiction coming up.

815
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 7: Next, Bree, Yes, stranger than fiction.

816
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: We're gonna get kicked off the air this week for

817
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: this one.

818
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: No, why not go from Broca your way out?

819
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: You have nothing to lose.

820
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, you guys have a reputation to sustain.

821
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Mark you're supposed to play the criskest there in my machine.

822
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: Stranger than fiction with breed coming up next. Fn A

823
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: on FSR.

824
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: You know you look familiar to me.

825
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: Fn A cotton back in fn A on FSR.

826
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: Here on Sports Saturday at k fig one is where

827
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: you can find me, Kevin Figures at follow Adam A

828
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: is where you can find Adam on X Coming up

829
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: next hour, probably about ten minutes or so. Mark Medina,

830
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: FAW Sports Radio, NBA Insider. He was at the Lakers

831
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: Clippers game at Crypto dot Com Arena on Friday night.

832
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: He'll come in and talk about what happened there, Kawhi

833
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 2: Leonard leaving the game with an injury, Luca Danci balling

834
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: out once again, and I'll go around the NBA talk

835
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: about the tanking issue we let the show with, among

836
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: other things. We'll talk to Mark Medina about that. Coming

837
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: up here at the top of the next hours.

838
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 3: A fast food customer defending criticises n called nine after

839
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: her McDonald's run out of McNuggets strange.

840
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 6: He can't give a drunk man riding a horse at EWI,

841
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 6: He goes, Unlike cars, spordes don't have motors.

842
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 8: They have a mind in their own.

843
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: Strange things twenty four year old man now jusup throwing

844
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: an alligator through a drive through window are strange, Dan

845
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: Fig You're not too high yet, right, we got i'p kidding?

846
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: I just what are you talking about? That's the last

847
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: person that was somebody calling into nine one one there

848
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: that said I'm too high In the introduction for Strangers

849
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: in Fiction, do you.

850
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 9: Want to get high?

851
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great way to start this. Thank you.

852
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: It is a great way. It gives. It gives the

853
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: type of stories we usually get in this segment, outside

854
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: of that one that was very regrettable from a couple

855
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: of weeks ago that you gave us.

856
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 7: That was an awesome story. I have notes.

857
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome, that's how you describe it. Yeah, you killed it, Brie.

858
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 7: I thought it's really informative.

859
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: Was it is this going to be?

860
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 7: I think it is all that matters? Okay.

861
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: I love dinosaurs. I have small hands, and so my

862
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 5: street name when I was working in an office in

863
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 5: Newport Beach was little t Rex because I have very

864
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: very small hands.

865
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 4: And small hands and a loud screams how is that

866
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: oxy moron?

867
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: Little t Rex? I guess there's the Rex character, the

868
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: toy from Toys trying to say I'm not little. I'm saying,

869
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: you know, a t rex Rex be little, but.

870
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: All of a sudden sounds like AOC at that conference

871
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: early this week.

872
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: Sound good, go on.

873
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 7: Every Okay, I don't know how to get out of there.

874
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 5: Okay, anyways, so there there's a new oh yeah, yeah, okay,

875
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 5: so there's a new dinosaur that was discovered. Well, actually,

876
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 5: like fossils that was discovered a super sized dinosaur.

877
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 7: Should have had some Jurassic Park playing in the background.

878
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 7: Bout yeah, there you go.

879
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 6: It was a.

880
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 5: It was a newly discovered carnivore that was actually they

881
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 5: found him back in like twenty twenty two, but by

882
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 5: the time they put all the little fossils together, they

883
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 5: dubbed him the Spinosaurus mirabolus.

884
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 3: Wait a second, Wait, was like in Jurassic Park eight

885
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: or whatever.

886
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 7: She was in Jurassic Park three.

887
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it.

888
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: Was on the cover. He took over for the t rex.

889
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: It was like they had to up the stakes. It

890
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 3: killed the t rex.

891
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 4: They killed the t rex.

892
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: They're changing the guard type thing. But was it a

893
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: little spinosaurs killing a little t rex. I don't think so.

894
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 7: Anyway.

895
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: So they're talking about like specifically, like the head that

896
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: was like a twenty inch kind of like spine thing,

897
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 5: like a what you might call it, like a knife

898
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: thing that they it was sharp, Yeah.

899
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: Like a stegosaurs but on its head.

900
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, it was a bone that jutted from the brain.

901
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 7: Kind of work.

902
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 4: I was taking like a unicorn or something that was

903
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 4: actually start.

904
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 5: That I was like, oh, my little pony, kind of

905
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: like a unicorns. It was like a unicorn dinosaur.

906
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: Legend with Tom Curuz.

907
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 5: There we go, So sixteen to twenty feet tall, it

908
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 5: was roughly the same size as a t rex. Okay,

909
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 5: and yeah, and then a drastic part three that dispatched

910
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: the t rex.

911
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 7: By breaking its neck.

912
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 5: But we don't actually know if they actually did that,

913
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: Like we don't know if they actually.

914
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: Don't know are sure that wasn't real footage? Steven Spielberg.

915
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: Just do we know that they were in the same

916
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: era the Olympic or Jurassic or something else. That can

917
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: be a big factor in determining whether one diners were

918
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: killed another. If they were, like, you know, twenty million

919
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: years apart, then obviously not.

920
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 7: Where did they find these bones again in West Africa.

921
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 3: West Africa.

922
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they were it was between three one hundred

923
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 5: and ten miles from like the closest like marine environments

924
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: like the ocean. They were fish eaters, so I don't

925
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 5: know how they ate if they were that far from

926
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 5: the ocean, that's kind of weird. But their carnivores, so

927
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess they ate a little bit

928
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 5: of everything.

929
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: Did they fly to the ocean. Did they have wings

930
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 3: like birds like Alan Grant talks about them being birds.

931
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 7: No, I don't see anything.

932
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: You didn't say no like that.

933
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying no, that was like your type stuff.

934
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: We have this giant spin of saurus wrex that also

935
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: can fly.

936
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: They had a bird like skeleton and then they had

937
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: a lot of air inside and so they were kind

938
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 5: of stiff, and so they were just like good for

939
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 5: like moving up and down.

940
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not sexual.

941
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: God, I do I knew we were gonna get on

942
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: in the night before we left.

943
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: That's that's not sexual.

944
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: I do nothing.

945
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: Move on, describe the dinosaur.

946
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 7: No, you're so rude.

947
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: Okay, so they are actually also calling the dicer kind

948
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 5: of like a hell heron because of the bone protruding

949
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: from its head.

950
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: What oh what Haron hell heron hellll heron like a devil,

951
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: you know, like the devil has.

952
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 7: Like the horns.

953
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you.

954
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 7: Guys, mix missed my joke before that. It's okay, that's fine.

955
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: Was it good? Don't want to play it? It's so funny, Okay, anyway,

956
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 3: that was a good joke.

957
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 5: Anyways, Uh, they pursued fish with their like long snout

958
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: and they had rows of interlocking teeth.

959
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: That makes sense. Well, you got a nice smile then, well.

960
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 7: I don't know about that. And actually these little pictures

961
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 7: look a little scary.

962
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: So these like artists rendering pictures they did, yeah, of

963
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: what it would look like, Yes, if it wasn't just

964
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 3: bones and has some flush And.

965
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 5: Obviously the Jurassic Park one, Jurassic Park three one, the

966
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 5: one I killed that t rex, which is really sad.

967
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: So that's like how this story came about. This is

968
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: related to a movie.

969
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: So this is a new species of spinosaur that they found.

970
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 5: What Spinosaurus marabolus was one of the fifty five fossils

971
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 5: that was founded from the twenty twenty two trip, So

972
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 5: it's newly discovered supposedly, so there must have been other

973
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 5: versions of the spinosauruses and I'm thinking of like different locations.

974
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: Now, are we gonna get a real world Jurassic World

975
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: Jurassic Park situation because of this? Did they get the

976
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: DNA from the mosquito sapling thing?

977
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: That's the most important?

978
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 7: Okay?

979
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: No, well that was That was a good story. It

980
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: was a good story.

981
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you so much.

982
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: Well done.

983
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 6: Ray.

984
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: Oh good stuff, Rae, I love it.

985
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: Comb it up next, Mark Medina, NBA Expert fn AN FSR.

986
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: Do listen Fox Sports Radio.

987
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: That's right hour two of F and A on FSR.

988
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: Here on Fox Sports Saturday. Kevin figures at kfig one

989
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: where you can find me on X. You can find

990
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: Adam at follow adam a on X.

991
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: Coming up later this hour, we'll talk about the rams.

992
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 3: Is it still FM picks? Plus Kawhi Leonard in the news.

993
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: Maybe we can get into more of that with our

994
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: guests right here, Alan Dragan did thank you guy me well.

995
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: In the early two thousands, my favorite Eminem with those initials,

996
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: he was putting out some good music. But he hasn't

997
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 3: done that in like fifteen years. So now my favorite

998
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: em and M is this man Mark Medina at Mark

999
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: g Underscore Medinas, where you find him with various outlets,

1000
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: including here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark, thanks for joining

1001
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: us here on F and A on FSR.

1002
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 8: Adam appreciate the shout out of Eminem, but you don't

1003
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 8: like comic coz here Marshall Mathers LP two. What's the deal?

1004
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: Mark?

1005
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: He's an old man now, so anything that had anything

1006
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: that came out after like twenty ten, it sucks.

1007
00:41:59,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: That's for the kids.

1008
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 3: Who's the old man?

1009
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 8: Me?

1010
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: Or Eminem? Who are you referring to there?

1011
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: Because he's like fifty, everything sucks now.

1012
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: That's why is he still beefing with twenty year olds

1013
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: like Machine Gun Kelly or whatever? Let it go man?

1014
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 8: Well, I can tell you the reason why is because

1015
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 8: he was dissating his daughter. I think that's like, you know,

1016
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 8: that's a no no right in the history of his

1017
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 8: rap battles.

1018
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair, Hey, like have grandkids yet now he's thirty?

1019
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 8: Does he is a grandfather?

1020
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: Mark?

1021
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 8: How much is your mind blowing? You weren't prepared for

1022
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 8: this hip hop history? Lesson, you're just gonna talk?

1023
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: Well, hold on, now, what is your favorite Eminem? Album,

1024
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: because for me, it's easily the original Marshall Mathers LP.

1025
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: In fact, I was watching a YouTube video the other

1026
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 3: day of somebody listening to that album for the first

1027
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: time and freaking out, just getting the reaction somebody actually

1028
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: hearing all that stuff. That's where I go when I'm

1029
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: looking for Eminem.

1030
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think that's how everyone, including myself

1031
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 8: think it's Eminem show that's the second best. And then

1032
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 8: after that, I am with you that it's not the same.

1033
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 8: But you know, there are some sneaky good tracks in

1034
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 8: between different songs, the most notably in their albums, most

1035
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 8: notably in Recovery Comic Cazi is good with the only

1036
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 8: problem is he's devoting the entire album ripping on people

1037
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 8: that are criticizing his previous album. So the singles are good,

1038
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 8: but when you look at the theme of it, you

1039
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 8: just bang your head against the wall and you say,

1040
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 8: you gotta you gotta have a new material here. He

1041
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 8: can't be angry for people that don't like your reason.

1042
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: I do appreciate the penny in this though, Mark, I'll

1043
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: say that so that we work in.

1044
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 8: Here his twenty thirties or forties, they will always come.

1045
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 4: Up with a no doubt.

1046
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: I'm impressed you don't want to f with Medina. Mark

1047
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: Medina joining us here on f and A on FSR, Mark,

1048
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: I heard some people were upset, specifically coach lou after

1049
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: the Clippers Lakers game, Clippers losing by three tonight with

1050
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: a shot to tie it from Nico Batoom. What was

1051
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: the broad strokes fall out from those pressers who needed

1052
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: that game more because the Lakers eventually got it, but

1053
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: the Clippers were down many men as the game went along.

1054
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: Guys were dropping life lies.

1055
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, Matt addequally, the Clippers needed more

1056
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 8: because they're fighting tooth and nail to make sure they

1057
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 8: can get to the playoffs, most likely as a playing tournament.

1058
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 8: But I think you know the Lakers, they're feeling, hey,

1059
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 8: they're a good team, but not great. Their fifth in

1060
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 8: the West. There's only the eleventh game that Luka Doncic

1061
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 8: and Lebron James Austin Reeves have actually played games together.

1062
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 8: But yeah, I would say the Clippers need more their

1063
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 8: ninth place right now. Tylu was incredulous before the game

1064
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 8: this idea that you know. Some comments from Kawhi Leonard

1065
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 8: insinuating that they're not in contending status and the season's over.

1066
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 8: He was so beside himself on that whole idea, and

1067
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 8: he's like, you know what, like if I'm in a

1068
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 8: playoff series, I like my chances in postgame, he doubled

1069
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 8: down and said, that doesn't look like an effing team

1070
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 8: that's trying to lose to me. Now, he was upset

1071
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 8: with officiating, you know. You know some of the injuries

1072
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 8: with Kawhi Leonard, he missed the last five minutes because

1073
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 8: some stiffness in his ankle, some worries about John Collins

1074
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 8: having any concussion. They're going to continue to evaluate them,

1075
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 8: but I think through all that, it's pretty clear they're

1076
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 8: going to continue to scrap the same way that helped

1077
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 8: get them out of this hole at the beginning of

1078
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 8: the season.

1079
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark, you know, in a Macro sensus, you brought

1080
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: up the fact that Tyler was upset with some of

1081
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: the calls going against him, and Luka Doncik is chief

1082
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: among players as far as you know, baiting players to

1083
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: jump into them and get calls and all that.

1084
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 4: And I know Kay Cunningham complained.

1085
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: About certain guys getting star treatment and him not getting

1086
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: that same treatment. Do you think that it's an issue

1087
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: in the NBA with guys like Luka Doncik who tried

1088
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: to draw fouls and maybe do it in a sort

1089
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: of an unseemly way that makes basketball kind of hard

1090
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: and difficult to watch in situations like that. Is there

1091
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: anything the league can do about that? And do you

1092
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: think it's an actual issue.

1093
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 8: I don't think it's as severe as it was before.

1094
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 8: I thought, you know, seven eight years ago in James

1095
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 8: Hall and was doing James Harden things with invading people's

1096
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 8: landing spaces and then still expecting a foul call that

1097
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 8: that was egregious. I think that what you see with

1098
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 8: Luca and Shay, Gilgess, Alexander, No doubt there are some salesmanship,

1099
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 8: some angling, but I think it's different because a lot

1100
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 8: of the times it's because they're driving to the basket

1101
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 8: or using some creative moves or James, you know, regardless

1102
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 8: of whether what team he was on was step backs. Now. Look,

1103
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 8: I know the Clippers were understandably frustrated. Benedict Mathern. You

1104
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 8: know how to Foulalaxy at six fouls and there's some

1105
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 8: questionable calls here or there. But I think you know,

1106
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 8: in all honesty, guys, that fairly even down. I mean,

1107
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 8: the Lakers got fewer free throws on the Clippers, but

1108
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 8: I think when you're looking at the totality, but they

1109
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 8: were gaining a little upset about Lucas specifically. But I

1110
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 8: would counter that's not the main thing in the game.

1111
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 8: I mean that usually evens out of the end mark.

1112
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about it a little bit later

1113
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: this now. And you mentioned it there for a second

1114
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 3: as coach lou did pregame and postgame regarding the comments

1115
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: from Kawhi Leonard. And by the way, it was not

1116
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: the first time he said they weren't a contender or

1117
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: he felt like that he was talking about that before

1118
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: the trade deadline. But what did you make of a

1119
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: star player admitting that. Is it refreshing or should fans

1120
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: be upset with it?

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00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a good question, because you know more than

1122
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 8: anyone else here that it's harder to code Colis sometimes

1123
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 8: he often, you know, speaks a little off the cuff.

1124
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 8: He's very introverted. The way I looked at that common

1125
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 8: is I think that he was talking about what's over

1126
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 8: the trade deadline, the team that was before the trade deadline.

1127
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 8: You know, the era of Lop City and then Lops.

1128
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 8: But Paul George and James Harden he was kind of thinkingly,

1129
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 8: NAT's over. I don't think that he was saying, you

1130
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 8: know what, the season's over. Who cares. He was trying

1131
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 8: to stress it's about trying to accelerate the chemistry with

1132
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 8: a new group. And you know what, almost it's irrelevant

1133
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 8: because Kawhi is playing out of his mind. I mean,

1134
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 8: if he thinks it's over, he's not playing like it's

1135
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 8: He's playing as good as can be. Thankfully he's healthy.

1136
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 8: You know, we'll obviously have clarity on to what degree

1137
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 8: this injury is serious. But you know, Tyler just said

1138
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 8: it got stiff on him. He had it before the game,

1139
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 8: but I saw him walking around post game. I would

1140
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 8: be very surprised, even with Kawhi, that it's a significant thing.

1141
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 8: So as it pertains to the bigger part of your question,

1142
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 8: what I would I would have more concerns about the actions.

1143
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 8: Kawhi is really bringing it, and so is the rest

1144
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 8: of the group. This team is very, very resilient, whether

1145
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 8: it's Benedic Mathern trying to put his imprint on the team,

1146
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 8: despite being a newcomer and being very aggressive, or someone

1147
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 8: like Brook Lopez been very adaptable with his role now

1148
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 8: as the starting center. That this team's going to continue

1149
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 8: to compete till the very end they hope as a

1150
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 8: playoff contend. So whatever Kawive Manner didn't mean, I don't

1151
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 8: think it's that big of a deal.

1152
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: Mark Medina joining us here on FNA and FSR, Mark

1153
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, NBA Insider, and NBA Rider for essentially sports.

1154
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the team that the Clippers faced on

1155
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: Friday night, that being the Lakers. Just the eleventh game

1156
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: that the Lakers have had their big three together all healthy,

1157
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: and they weren't even fully healthy with Lebron James is

1158
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: questionable going into it.

1159
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 4: He actually did end up playing.

1160
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: Just if those guys are all healthy, and I know

1161
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: that's a big if considering that hasn't been the case

1162
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: for the majority of the season.

1163
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: What do you think the ceiling is for this Laker team?

1164
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: First round? Second round? How deep do you think they

1165
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 4: can possibly go?

1166
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that they're ceiling is second round. You

1167
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 8: know they can be very good offensively. I don't have

1168
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 8: even if it's a small sample size, eleven games this season,

1169
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 8: a few games last season. I think that they've shown Lebron, Luca,

1170
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 8: and Austin can pretty much coexist well just fine offensively.

1171
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 8: The problem is they're not a great defensive team. Yeah,

1172
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 8: they have some good defensive players. There's team a guy

1173
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 8: like Mark Smart. That's great. They address some of their

1174
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 8: weaknesses with three point shooting with getting Luke Canard in

1175
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 8: the trade deadline. But I haven't had I haven't seen

1176
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 8: enough consistency, even when they're relatively healthy, with role players

1177
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 8: outside their main stars, for being productive on a consistent basis.

1178
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 8: And I haven't seen the entire group be a good

1179
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 8: defensive team. And I think it's telling. You asked the

1180
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 8: same question to me that I asked the Lebron before

1181
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 8: the All Star Game, if their whole what he can do?

1182
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 8: I think it's telling that he said he's not sure,

1183
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 8: So I think stack the dots here. He probably has

1184
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 8: the same level of uncertainty that I have. That he's

1185
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 8: not going to say it out loud, oh yeah, we're

1186
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 8: not going to go far in the playoffs. But the

1187
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 8: fact that he expressed on certainty shows that there's a

1188
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 8: lot of question marks he has in his mind, and

1189
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 8: he was the first to tell you games they can

1190
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 8: play really really well, they're undefeating these clutch games, but

1191
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 8: there's games that they've played really really poorly with their

1192
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 8: inability to beat a lot of playoff caliber teams.

1193
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 3: You know, before Kawhi said about his squad, Lebron James

1194
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: basically said, we're not a contender this season after a

1195
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 3: lost to Okay. See he was saying it before. It

1196
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 3: was cool. Uh, Mark, is this his last season in

1197
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: the NBA? Last season with the Lakers? How do you

1198
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 3: see things moving forward with Lebron?

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Speaker 8: Well, for what it's worth, Lebron, as you all probably know,

1200
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 8: said he's not sure. You know, before the All Star break,

1201
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 8: he just said, oh, I would just want to live.

1202
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 8: I don't think it's his last season because of this one.

1203
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 8: He's playing at a reasonably all Star caliber level, not

1204
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 8: the same player, but still effective enough to show that

1205
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 8: he's not a complete liability. Number two. He's on a

1206
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 8: team that is a playoff contending team. But there was

1207
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 8: a lot of question marks. I think that that's led

1208
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 8: to a lot of gray area on how you wrap

1209
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 8: up your final career in a bow. And I think third,

1210
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 8: you know, he hasn't dealt with too many major injuries.

1211
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 8: I mean, he's not He's not mister Ironman, hence dealing

1212
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 8: with the migraine before the game. He's dealing with some

1213
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 8: lefni sorenis after throwing down a dunky yesterday in practice.

1214
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 8: But he's not dealing with season ending injuries like Kobe

1215
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 8: Bryant did a decade ago. And so I think with

1216
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 8: that there's just a lot of uncertainty of how do

1217
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 8: you prolong this career? When do you end on the

1218
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 8: right note. So with all that, what I think is

1219
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 8: going to happen, He's going to come back for one

1220
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 8: more year, and it's going to be at the Cleveland

1221
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 8: Cavaliers because they have a title contending team ready. He

1222
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 8: obviously has a connection with Cleveland and he can go

1223
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 8: enjoy the farewell tour for an entire season.

1224
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: Speaking of player movement, we don't know what the future

1225
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: is going to hold for Giannis. It's at Takompo.

1226
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: He obviously remains with Milwaukee, didn't get traded, and of

1227
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: course afterwards acted like he wanted to be.

1228
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 4: There the entire time. There was nothing to see here.

1229
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be traded. When you talked about

1230
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: ain't going nowhere. How do you see this a situation

1231
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: playing out there? Mark, Do you believe that Milwaukee has

1232
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: a chance to try to fortify the roster in the

1233
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: offseason to try to keep him, or do you think

1234
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: it's a foregone conclusion.

1235
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 4: He's gone and it's just a matter of where he's going.

1236
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 8: I don't think it's a fore gone conclusion, only because

1237
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 8: we've seen Giannis is really really torn with you know,

1238
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 8: being direct about saying that he wants a trade. He's

1239
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 8: I don't think he's ever going to request that trade.

1240
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 8: He's admitted as such to other people around him. Don't

1241
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 8: think it's going to be that way. So I think

1242
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 8: it's going to really be about the Milwaukee Bucks making

1243
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 8: a tough but necessary decision that you know, he's dealing

1244
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 8: with injuries. They've been kind of moving to mud. They

1245
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 8: got to just get the best offer they can. So

1246
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 8: I don't think he's ever going to play with the

1247
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 8: Milwaukee Bucks again. I think that they're going to shut

1248
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 8: him down the rest of the season because of this

1249
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 8: cap injury, because it can help them get a good

1250
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 8: draft pick. But I don't know where he's going to go.

1251
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 8: The Lakers obviously are going to try to get involved,

1252
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 8: but so all these other teams, and we saw that

1253
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 8: from their expectation. The trade deadline offers were underwhelming, even

1254
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 8: when he could package draft picks and some respectable All

1255
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 8: Star caliber players. They're expecting a lot more. So in theory,

1256
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 8: there's going to be better offers, more suitors, more competition.

1257
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 8: I just don't know what that's going to look like,

1258
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 8: and hence it's hard for me to project Warrianus will

1259
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 8: be other than I'm pretty certain he's not going to

1260
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 8: be with the books Mark.

1261
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 3: We were talking about it in the first segment, But

1262
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: do you think the NBA is close to a quote

1263
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: unquote solution for taking Are we going to get to

1264
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: that this summer? How real is this from Adam Silver

1265
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: or is it just rattling sabers. Do you think they're

1266
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 3: going after it and what do you think the most

1267
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: likely proposition is that gets past?

1268
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, well it's real, but they're also rattling sabers. They've

1269
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 8: talked about they had meetings earlier this week about throwing ideas.

1270
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 8: Now what they do it remains to be seen. My

1271
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 8: hunch is that it's going to be, you know, more

1272
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 8: power to penalized teams with draft picks, penalized teams with

1273
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 8: pick swaps. I don't think from what I gather, that

1274
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 8: this idea that they're going to abolish the draft is

1275
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 8: going to happen. I've been told that idea hasn't been

1276
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 8: ruled out, but I've also been told that when they've

1277
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 8: had meetings the Competition Committee, they've never talked talked about that.

1278
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 8: Another proposal that i've heard is a non star Tracy

1279
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 8: McGrady is one of many players that floated around during

1280
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 8: All Star weekend. Hey, let's have you know, almost a

1281
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 8: different tournament for the lottery teams to play for their pick.

1282
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 8: The NBA doesn't think that's going to work. They've talked,

1283
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 8: they've talked about that ideas in past meetings, but they

1284
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 8: think that players on those teams aren't going to have

1285
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 8: the incentive to win because that draft pick theoretically is

1286
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 8: going to take their spot. So I know that's ruled out,

1287
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 8: but everything else is on the table. But I will

1288
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 8: say I would be surprised if abolishing draft is something

1289
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 8: because one they haven't talked about I think two, for

1290
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 8: whatever imperfections the draft is, they like kind of that marketing,

1291
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 8: build up promotional tool with that. So if I had

1292
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 8: a guess, I think it's more about doc and draft

1293
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 8: picks and pickswaps. But to your point, this is I

1294
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 8: think a lot of you know, fake hustle a little

1295
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 8: bit too, And kind of the yank of it was

1296
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 8: because teams were more blatant about it with Utah and

1297
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 8: Indiana before the All Star break, where usually the moves

1298
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 8: are more subtle in late March early April.

1299
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 2: You know, if I could be in company with someone

1300
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: like Team Mac, I'll take it. Because Mark I threw

1301
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: out that scenario last week on the show and got

1302
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: a little bit of heat for it, and I was like, hey,

1303
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: you might not be the most fool proof idea, but

1304
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: at least it's some sort of idea.

1305
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 4: So Team MC and I we are on lockstep.

1306
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Speaker 3: Did you also score thirteen and thirty seconds.

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00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 8: Tracy McGrady, and then you play in two and two tournament? Right,

1308
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 8: let's have that as an All Star event.

1309
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: But what that would end up being Marcus me passing

1310
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: the ball to the Team Mac can he'd be going

1311
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: one on two and each year and the one on

1312
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: the corner.

1313
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: Tell you exactly how that compe sit you would go.

1314
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,959
Speaker 3: Let me tell you not getting out of the first round

1315
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 3: if you have Team Mac as your partner.

1316
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: That was probably probably not Historically speaking, Mark Madeena, Fox

1317
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Inside are joining us here, So speaking of

1318
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: competition on the court, all of us obviously think Oklahoma

1319
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: CIT's kind of a tier of their own. And if

1320
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: look on the Western Conference, if you want to throw

1321
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 2: San Antonio as an upstart, Denver certainly has their say,

1322
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: but the Eastern conferences to be a little bit more open.

1323
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 2: Obviously Detroit having a spectacular year, probably a year early

1324
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: for a lot of people, considering how well they've played.

1325
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: Boston's played great, considering the fact that Tatum hasn't played

1326
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: this year and he might actually end up returning. If

1327
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 2: you have Cleveland who got off to a slow start

1328
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: and now they're resurgent. If you were to handicap the

1329
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference, who do you think right now has the

1330
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: best chance of coming out of the East.

1331
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 8: It's really hard to handicap Kevin because I think you

1332
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 8: flip a coin and every teams it has its case.

1333
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 8: Let's suit process of elimination. Yes, the Boston Celtics are great.

1334
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 8: Joan Brown, MVP consideration. Their role players have been great.

1335
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 8: I just feel that though it's eventually going to catch

1336
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 8: up to them. This idea that Jason Tatum comes back,

1337
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 8: I mean in theory, it sounds great, but there's always

1338
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 8: question marks with players coming back from Achilles. Do you

1339
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 8: reinjury it? Number one? And number two? If you don't

1340
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 8: reinjure it, how long the time does it take to

1341
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 8: get back in shape, get the chemistry going, et cetera.

1342
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 8: So respect to Boston, but I don't think they're going

1343
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 8: to the finish line Cleveland. Obviously, they're on a role

1344
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 8: seven game winning streak to fit with James Harden. Donovan

1345
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 8: Mitchell's great, but I have questions about James Harden's durability

1346
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 8: because of his age, because of how his playoff history is.

1347
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 8: So I'm going to rule them out. I think it's

1348
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 8: going to be about between the Knicks and the Pistons.

1349
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 8: The Knicks, I think they've been better defensively, they've been

1350
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 8: a little bit more consistent. That chemistry with John Burunton

1351
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 8: Karlnthon Town is a lot better than it was last season.

1352
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 8: But the Pistons rule them out at your own risk

1353
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 8: because even though they're qute unquote inexperience. They haven't gotten

1354
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 8: there yet. They're a scrappy, physical defensive team. They're not

1355
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 8: bad boys Pistons, but they have that resiliency, grit, fight

1356
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 8: and Kate Cunningham complete two way player, and he's in

1357
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 8: the MVP conversation. I think that he's fourth right now

1358
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 8: in the MVP race. So with that, I go Nicks

1359
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 8: only because of experience, but not because of Pistons not

1360
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 8: being ready for the moment. More tactical. So if I

1361
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 8: had to pick, it would be the NIXT But really,

1362
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 8: you flip a coin, it's gonna be very wide open,

1363
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 8: as if.

1364
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: Mike Brown didn't have enough pressure on him filling those shoes.

1365
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 8: Right. Look, James Dolan is saying NBA finals are bus

1366
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 8: so you gotta believe is.

1367
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: The great Mark Medina. You hear him here on Fox

1368
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 3: Sports Radio NBA analyst and reporter follow him at Mark

1369
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: g Underscore Medina and yes that G stands for U knit.

1370
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: Mark.

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Speaker 3: We love you. Thanks for doing this late night here

1372
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: on F and A on FSR.

1373
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, hopefully I was uh spitting some bars that

1374
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 8: are reminded you Marshall Mathers LP instead of uh, you

1375
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 8: know the latter album's recovery. For example, you were great relapsed.

1376
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 6: Now you were.

1377
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna make M and M relapse with how much

1378
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: we've gone after him tonight for his later work. Look, technically,

1379
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 3: he's still a very good rapper. He can spit. I

1380
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 3: just don't understand it from a fifty five year old

1381
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 3: at this point. That's what's weird to be. That's all

1382
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: one hundred and two thousand, hunging up a while ago,

1383
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 3: your next eminem.

1384
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 4: What the man lived? And let's se he's gonna make

1385
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 4: a he canna make a disc track about you?

1386
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 3: Fair enough? I'd be honored. Mark, we love you again,

1387
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: Thanks for.

1388
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 4: Doing this, appreciated one of the guys.

1389
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: You too.

1390
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how we got off to this. Next time,

1391
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: I'll ask Mark his favorite Young Buck album. We didn't

1392
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 3: have time for that. Tonight we'll get to that karaoke

1393
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 3: which M and M song? Were you going with?

1394
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 4: You know?

1395
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: Once upon a time Kevin and I, Oh boy, that's right,

1396
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 3: tried to do a little song. Nowadays, everybody don't want

1397
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: to talk at an old karaoke bar that birds to

1398
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 3: the ground. We had nothing to do with that. We

1399
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 3: were out of town when that happened. It wasn't because

1400
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: we were trying to hide our performance that was recording

1401
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: on tape somewhere and really got that. Sartos Burbank, remember

1402
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 3: it right, Pour one out coming up next back to

1403
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 3: the NFL. Is it f M picks for the Rams.

1404
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna discuss should they go all in? I mean

1405
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 3: Matt Stafford still looking pretty good. He was the MVP.

1406
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: This is fn A on Fox Sports Radio. Just let

1407
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 3: it run, Dray, nobody does.

1408
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: It f and At.

1409
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: Shut up and listen. High level production right here, man,

1410
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: This is after Mark Martina, the crew.

1411
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 4: That gets it. That's right. Shout out to our guy

1412
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 4: Mark Mondina.

1413
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: Welcome back in It's FNA on FSR. Remember with the

1414
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: iHeart app, you can stream us wherever you are. Catch

1415
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: us and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live

1416
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven in the new and improved iHeartRadio app.

1417
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app to stream

1418
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 3: us live all day, every day, and be sure to

1419
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: select Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets in

1420
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 3: the iHeart apps, so it always pops up at the

1421
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: top of your screen. Again. You can just search Fox

1422
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: Sports Radio in the iHeart app.

1423
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: Coming up later in the show, we'll talk about your heroes,

1424
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: your old sports heroes, and whether or not you want

1425
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: to see them go out on top or you just

1426
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: want to continue to see them even if they're making

1427
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: a total and complete embarrassment of themselves. I'm excited a

1428
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: few examples of that based on some stories that came

1429
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: out this week.

1430
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: All right, So we'll talk about that coming up a

1431
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 4: little bit later in the show.

1432
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll even take some phone calls.

1433
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, why not?

1434
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 3: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. But Kevin, there

1435
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 3: are decisions to make in LA. We talked about the

1436
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 3: Rams every seuse when we talked about the Clippers, the Lakers.

1437
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 3: I don't know why we're being so coastal elite tonight,

1438
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: but I guess we're talking about the Rams a little

1439
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: bit now too.

1440
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 4: Well. They're big nationally, yo, The Rams are rele well one,

1441
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 4: they have the MVP of the league.

1442
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 3: They're the second best team in the league. That was

1443
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

1444
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: Which most people said it was gonna be going into

1445
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: conference championship weekend.

1446
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: So the NFC Championship was the real super Bowl, right, Sorry? Patriots?

1447
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: And there aren't a whole lot of question marks for

1448
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks. They have to answer, are you gonna

1449
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: bring back Kenneth Walker?

1450
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 4: Probably?

1451
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: Are you gonna bring back Wrashicia heat He just came

1452
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: out there earlier on Friday and said he wants to

1453
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: be back with Seattle. Now we'll have to see if

1454
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: somebody like wants to pony up money and bring him in.

1455
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: I think that the Raiders might make a play for

1456
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: him because of Gary Kubiak or excuse me, click Kubiak.

1457
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens there.

1458
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: Do you think the Seahawks improve at the quarterback position?

1459
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 3: Do you remember when the Ravens won with Trent dilferd

1460
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 3: right and then went out and got Elvis Gerbach, which

1461
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean everybody at the time I was like, this

1462
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: is an obvious upgrade in theory. Yeah, it wasn't his fault.

1463
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: The defense kind of fell off a little bit. They

1464
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: weren't historically great the next season.

1465
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 4: I mean, they were still really good.

1466
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: They were good, but they weren't the best defense in

1467
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: twenty years or whatever.

1468
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 3: And they still have Dwayne Starks or whoever.

1469
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: I believe, so he was really good. Yeah. Well, I mean, obviously.

1470
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 3: Ray Lewis and the Goose, Sam Adams and so Tony

1471
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: Siragusa just swan diving on everyone pretty much including richtermcallister.

1472
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't remind Chris.

1473
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: McCallister was the other corner. I was thinking he was Christmaster.

1474
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 4: Was a great corner.

1475
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: And then like two years later, maybe it was like

1476
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: five years later, incomes.

1477
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: Dion, Yeah, as a safety out of nowhere, out of retirement.

1478
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 3: Do you remember the Burger King commercial? He had a

1479
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 3: pick six, I do remember that. Yeah, and they used

1480
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 3: the King. They superimposed him on Dion as he's high

1481
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: step into the end zone.

1482
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 4: That was one of the best ads it was. That

1483
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 4: was incredible.

1484
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 3: That love better those competed with the Jack in the Box,

1485
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 3: the Jack ads. At that time, burger stuff was strong.

1486
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 3: The Jack Jack is still around, he's still going. What

1487
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: happened Like kevinem he's falling off. So what happened to

1488
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 3: the King of the Burger What happened to him?

1489
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 4: Did he retire? Did he hang up?

1490
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 9: Crowell?

1491
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: On some hard times? I still have a Burger King

1492
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: near me. I know there once in a while.

1493
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 4: He hung up his crown.

1494
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: Something goes wrong, Like they even have tacos like Jack

1495
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 3: in the Box now Burger King has tacos. They at

1496
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 3: least did for a while, And maybe I kept him

1497
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 3: in business too long because I tried him like three

1498
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: different times. This time they're going to be better, So

1499
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 3: you're the expert, Like, I'm not hating. They're not sponsor,

1500
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: are they?

1501
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 4: I don't believe they are.

1502
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: I did see this is a few years ago when

1503
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: Burger King tried to They were competing with McDonald's on

1504
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: the breakfast game and they had pancakes and it was

1505
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: like three or four pancakes for ninety nine cent, and.

1506
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm more of a whopping guy.

1507
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 4: What are these pancakes made out of?

1508
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: That?

1509
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: You can sell a short stack for ninety nine cents?

1510
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: Do I really want to be ingesting this?

1511
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 3: I mean that, buttermilk, that little thing you get in

1512
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 3: a spray can from like Costco now in bulk, like

1513
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: they should be pretty cheap. It's not that hard to

1514
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: make a pancake stretches now that takes talent.

1515
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not saying it's difficul at the process

1516
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: of making it, but all the stuff that goes into

1517
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: making it ninety nine cents to make.

1518
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: Four, well, it's not like they're giving you whipped cream

1519
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 3: and strawberries on top.

1520
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 2: I bet there's probably a bunch of rubber, and who

1521
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: knows what the hell else is in that stuff?

1522
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 3: Is it extra for the maple sap?

1523
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1524
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: No, no, thank you, whatever it is, I'll say no

1525
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: thank you on that Lulibert stick with Miss Butterworths or whatever.

1526
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: She's still around.

1527
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: She always came through, Yeah, clutch.

1528
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: So the Rams find themselves in an interesting position because

1529
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: they have two first round picks, number thirteen and number

1530
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: twenty nine. You have an aging quarterback in Matthew Stafford,

1531
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: who announced at the NFL Awards ceremony that he is

1532
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: coming back for at least one more year. And you're

1533
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: kind of in this Brett Farvisch type of scenario Tom Brady,

1534
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: where you just don't know when his final season is

1535
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: gonna be, and he doesn't seem to be the type

1536
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: that's gonna call his shot early. He's not gonna I

1537
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to enter into training camp this

1538
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: coming August and tell everybody, yeah, this is gonna be

1539
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: my last year. I think he truly was playing it

1540
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: year to year and does it know which places? And

1541
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: I don't blame him for that whatsoever, but it places

1542
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,959
Speaker 2: the organization in a really tough spot where you're trying

1543
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 2: to plan for the future, in particular in trying to

1544
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: replace the most important position on the field, that being

1545
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback. Do you groom somebody? How do you have

1546
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: a plan in place? And to put him in a

1547
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: really difficult spot?

1548
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: Can't be grooming, all right, well, grooming someone he went

1549
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 3: along as his heir apparent. Correct, Yes, that's that's what

1550
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 3: I meant. I know, Jez, that was my fault. He's

1551
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 3: thirty eight. He just turned thirty eight. With how well

1552
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 3: he just played, as evidenced by the fact he won

1553
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: the MVP. He was the best quarterback in the league

1554
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,479
Speaker 3: last season. It wasn't his fault. They lost that game

1555
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: to Seattle.

1556
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 4: Well enough to win that game.

1557
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: If you give him Seattle's defense, they win that game. Right,

1558
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: It's that simple. Now, he does have some weapons, as

1559
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 3: long as Puka doesn't want to be a forty nine

1560
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 3: er now or anything, just because he's hanging out with

1561
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: their cheerleaders.

1562
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: Pugan needs to just make sure he keeps his head

1563
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: down and like you know, hangs out with more streamers.

1564
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: He's out of the media could stay off TMZ Man.

1565
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: In Big twenty twenty six.

1566
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Okay, it's only gonna get worse.

1567
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: Well, I did see somebody there was a rumor earlier

1568
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: this week if they should try to trade Pooka Nakua

1569
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: before he's eligible for a contract extension under.

1570
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: Harrison the GM there. Now, I think it's still less

1571
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 3: need right.

1572
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it, but I understand the logic behind it.

1573
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: If you think this guy is just going to be

1574
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: some sort of malcontent and I'm not saying that he's

1575
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: a mouth content, but it's his judgment has been questionable,

1576
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: to say the least, especially over the past eight months

1577
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: or so.

1578
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 3: Are you saying this is not just FM picks but

1579
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: also F Puka?

1580
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying F Puka, but I'm just saying

1581
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: these are things you have to be conscious and be

1582
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: aware of when determining how much you're gonna pay a guy,

1583
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: how much you're committing to him, and whether or not

1584
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: these all field headaches are going to continue.

1585
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 4: Character matters. Yeah, so character is destiny?

1586
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: Now, how much it matters? We all know that talent

1587
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 3: wins out, not as much as catching the football.

1588
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, Zach Well, talent being being able to

1589
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: play ends up superseding anything else you do off the field,

1590
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: as long as you're not actually breaking the law.

1591
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 3: I think Antonio Brown made a lot of money, sure did.

1592
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if, but you know, he had the

1593
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 3: weird thing after the hit from vontees Berfect where he

1594
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 3: was never the same and people claim seek what they're.

1595
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 4: Saying he got.

1596
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: He was like this, listen to Antonio Brown before you

1597
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: got hit by vontez Berfeck and listen to him talk after.

1598
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 3: There was a difference. I mean, yes, there was a

1599
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 3: difference there. Now, same thing having as Chad Johnson after

1600
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 3: a few hits. No, I feel like Chad Johnson was

1601
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 3: kind of always a loud mouth, was he not?

1602
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 4: He was?

1603
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just going off the fact that he hangs

1604
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 3: out with Shannon Sharp and does that podcast and says

1605
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 3: some wild and reckless stuff all the time.

1606
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1607
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: I mean, look certainly too who bounced around for that

1608
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 2: same reason. Uber talented, but we're out as welcome a

1609
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: lot of places, not for breaking the law or anything.

1610
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 4: I think he doesn't even drink.

1611
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 3: But it's just Pookah is like a throwback to deep

1612
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 3: a receiver kind of a little bit we're back, let's.

1613
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 2: Go, but you're assuming he's gonna be there in the fold.

1614
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: So the crazy thing is for like outside of Stafford

1615
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: being thirty eight, the core of their team is super young.

1616
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 4: That's the thing.

1617
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: You have Pooka Nakoua, you have a Fisk and Verse

1618
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: on the defensive line. You have Quinton Lake on the

1619
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 2: back end of the defense, like you have a lot

1620
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: of guys. You are built for sustained success defensively at

1621
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: the very least, and even offensively with the with Puka

1622
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 2: and a couple of other guys. The problem is, how

1623
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: do you use the assets that you have when you're

1624
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: talking about number thirteen, you talk about number twenty nine.

1625
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: Do you take both of those picks and try to

1626
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: re up and try to bring in more young talent

1627
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: to fortify the youth and your roster, or do you

1628
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: take the FN picks mentality and try to find whoever

1629
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: this year's version of that Jalen Ramsey trade was a

1630
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 2: few years ago when they won the Super Bowl. Whether

1631
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: it's McDuffie from Kansas City if they can't find a

1632
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: way to pay him, or maybe it's Max Crosby or

1633
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 2: something to try to beef up a strength on their

1634
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 2: defensive line. It's an interesting situation that they find themselves in.

1635
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 3: It's not just a T shirt. It's more than just

1636
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,839
Speaker 3: a T shirt. It's a philosophy. It's a way of life.

1637
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 3: Same with Jordan and the FM kids. That's how it's started,

1638
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: right it is. Yes, although that's that's a little different

1639
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 3: right now. No, it's not the best time. Eight year

1640
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 3: old he was getting. He was getting the water off

1641
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 3: of that kid at the NASCAR event, and that is

1642
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 3: crazy that his guy won the race. Michael Jordan insane

1643
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 3: out there, the little and all that other stuff that

1644
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 3: happened with him. Yeah, look, I'm going all in with

1645
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 3: matt Stafford. It's not like you have a guy where

1646
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 3: you're making the argument. You know, it's Aaron Rodgers where

1647
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 3: he's on the back end or the back nine, and

1648
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,879
Speaker 3: he's still pretty good, but he's not in his prime anymore.

1649
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 3: You can make the argument Matthew Stafford right now is

1650
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 3: as good as he's ever been. We didn't know that

1651
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 3: was gonna happen. He had the arm injury the year before,

1652
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 3: he had the back injury coming into this season. Now,

1653
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: it is health dependent in a very physical league where

1654
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 3: the next hit could be your last. Just ask guys

1655
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: like Steve Young, and you could never be the same.

1656
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 3: And he's a family man, and I think he's a

1657
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 3: really intelligent guy and cognizant of the fact that, you know,

1658
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 3: we make a lot of money because it's a short

1659
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 3: career for a reason out there, and you never know

1660
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 3: this could be his last year. Even if that was

1661
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: the case and he said right now to me this

1662
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 3: is my final season, I would still go FM pics. Yeah,

1663
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 3: because he's that talented and this team is that good,

1664
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: are right there? They could be Seattle next season where

1665
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 3: they look so dominant out there.

1666
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1667
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: Well, and you what hurts you, I think if you're

1668
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: a supporter of the Rams, is like you feel like

1669
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: this one might have gotten away from you because you

1670
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 2: look at how the NFC shook out a lot of

1671
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: like the Lions had a down year as they transition

1672
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: to a new offensive coordinator. The Eagles had their share

1673
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: of issues this year. The forty nine ers had their

1674
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 2: health issues and still were a good team to make

1675
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: the playoffs obviously, but had their health issues.

1676
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 3: There was a window.

1677
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this seemed like this was kind of the window

1678
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: for you to be able to do it. Now, the

1679
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: window's not closed by any Stretcher's still going to be

1680
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: one of the favorites now. I think as of now

1681
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: they're co favorites with the Seahawks to win the Super

1682
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: Bowl next year.

1683
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 4: So that's before any moves are made. And the thing is.

1684
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: They can have the f and pis mentality because they've

1685
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 2: been so good at finding guys in rounds like three

1686
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 2: through six. So they had what a five or six

1687
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: year stretch where they didn't even have a first round

1688
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: pick and it didn't matter. They're still one of the

1689
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: best teams in the NFL. It's a testament to the

1690
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: front office and how and they're scouting how well they

1691
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: can find all these diamonds in the rough and guys

1692
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: who can contribute Super Bowl in Cooper Cup was a

1693
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,799
Speaker 2: third round pick. So when you have the front office

1694
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: and the ability to scout talent that way, you can

1695
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: be more aggressive and trading around first round picks because

1696
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: you know that you can find talent elsewhere in the draft.

1697
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been able to navigate the salary cap very

1698
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 3: well because they're able to accumulate talent later on on

1699
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 3: the cheap too. Obviously, even if you have a one

1700
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 3: or two year window with Matthew Stafford, you have to

1701
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 3: go for it. He's too good. I say this a

1702
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 3: lot in sports, but when a guy is that good

1703
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 3: and he's a Hall of Famer, there's a legacy to him.

1704
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 3: It's not just this quarterback got really good and caught

1705
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 3: lightning in a bottle later in his career. No, he

1706
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: was good for a long time. He's going to be

1707
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. I think there's a responsibility there

1708
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: to go out and try to win now, especially in

1709
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 3: a place like Los Angeles where we know the competition

1710
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: not just with sporting teams, but just events and entertainment

1711
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 3: in general is so difficult. You got a team playing

1712
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 3: in that same building as you with the Chargers, and

1713
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 3: they look to be good again next season and maybe

1714
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,879
Speaker 3: get off the snide when it comes to the playoffs,

1715
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,879
Speaker 3: and Mike and Daniel is there. So like you're competing

1716
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 3: with a team in your own building, you're competing with

1717
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 3: other sporting events, you're competing with everything else that happens

1718
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 3: here in Southern California. You have to put out a

1719
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 3: product that you know, going into a season. Not only

1720
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,879
Speaker 3: are we trying to win, we might be the favorite

1721
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 3: here in Los Angeles. That's what gets people excited. Just

1722
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 3: ask Dodger fans.

1723
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm right there with you if it were me,

1724
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 2: if I can package thirteen and twenty nine and get

1725
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: an impact player whoever. That might be a defensive back,

1726
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 2: a defensive end, another maybe it's another receiver, who the

1727
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: hell knows. I go all in and worry about the future.

1728
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 2: In the future and people talking about whether or not

1729
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: you get a quarterback of the future in this draft,

1730
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: I really don't see it. This is one of the

1731
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 2: weaker quarterback drafts we've had in the past few years.

1732
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 2: And next year is projected to be a lot better.

1733
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: You have your arch Mannings and Brent and Carr from

1734
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and a couple of others.

1735
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 4: Next year seems to be a lot stronger.

1736
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: We can potentially find a quarterback of the future, maybe

1737
01:13:59,000 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 2: even in the second.

1738
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 4: Or third round.

1739
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: This year, people are talking about Ty Simpson. Tom Simpson,

1740
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: with all due respect, that best is probably a third

1741
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: round pick in.

1742
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 4: A normal year. Oh it's all. I'm not hating on

1743
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 4: the guy.

1744
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 2: And maybe in the right system he can he can

1745
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: emerge and be something, But it sounds like it's kind

1746
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: of Fernando Mendoza and everybody else.

1747
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 3: Dante Moore's not coming out and.

1748
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 4: Everybody else is way down the line.

1749
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: So I don't think you're gonna find a lot of

1750
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: value and finding a quarterback of the future in this

1751
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 2: year draft. If you're the Rams, so I'm with you,

1752
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 2: go all in. Try to find a way to improve

1753
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 2: the roster as much as you possibly can for this

1754
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 2: coming season and see, if you know, if you win

1755
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: the feud. I'm convinced that if they won the Super

1756
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: Bowl this year, Matthew Stafford probably would have retired.

1757
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 4: He would have run out.

1758
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: That's possible. Although I thought Brady was gonna do it

1759
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 3: when they won the Super Bowl with Tampa Bay and

1760
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 3: he said on stage, just say you know I'm coming

1761
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 3: back next year. You ain't got to worry about that.

1762
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 3: It's happening.

1763
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: Was he drunk off his ass yet when he said that,

1764
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: or was he was he Stonecolt Sober.

1765
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 4: I can't remember.

1766
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: For the parade where he was throwing it between boats,

1767
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 3: the uh Lombardi Trophy and stumbling got next? Are the

1768
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 3: Clippers to focused on the future, right now are they

1769
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: no longer a contender? Were they at all this season?

1770
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard's talking about it, and coach Lou spoke about

1771
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 3: it earlier tonight. We mentioned it with Mark Radina. We'll

1772
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 3: give you our thoughts next right here on f and

1773
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 3: A on FSR. This smashage well self destruct.

1774
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: FNA, Cottonna.

1775
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 4: This is FNA on FSR.

1776
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: Kevin figures in Adam Austin with you guys coming up

1777
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: in about ten minutes or so. Keep on playing or

1778
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: sit your old ass down. That's what we're gonna talk

1779
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: about coming up at the top of the next hour.

1780
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 3: Is it about Lebron No, it could be.

1781
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 4: Actually not necessarily.

1782
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 3: You know, he only had like thirteen tonight. He's not

1783
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 3: the reason the Clippers lost.

1784
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 4: No, he's not, not in the least bit.

1785
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: And speaking to Kawhi, Leonard made some headlines earlier when

1786
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: he made a comment that this was after Thursday night's victory.

1787
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 2: I believe right, do we have the comments pre okay

1788
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 2: or Mark okay? Yeah, so this is after Thursday night's

1789
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 2: victory the Clippers over the Denver Nuggets. And I believe

1790
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: someone asked Kawhi about the Clippers on this hot streak

1791
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: and their chance to contend for a championship this season.

1792
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 9: Let's here just developing over time, and me, I think

1793
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 9: it's over now. It's a second half, like fourth of

1794
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 9: the season left. But you know, every day is a

1795
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 9: day to grow, a day to learn and get better.

1796
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 9: So you know, you just got to keep looking over

1797
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 9: time and see in two weeks if we getting better,

1798
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 9: and you know, see what happens from man.

1799
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 2: Yep, though, the key quote that everybody latched onto from

1800
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: that is well, it's over now, saying that we don't

1801
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: have a chance to compete for a championship.

1802
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 4: Season's over.

1803
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm still playing obviously, but we have really nothing really

1804
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: of substance to play for, even though they're clearly in

1805
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 2: the playoff contention.

1806
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 3: Right now, it's game over, man, it's game over. Because

1807
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: he had made comments previously about how we're not a contender.

1808
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 3: He said it with Chris Haynes over All Star Weekend.

1809
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 3: He said it after the trade deadline, but he had

1810
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 3: also mentioned in the same breath that talking about the

1811
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 3: guys they had traded and the team prior to the

1812
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 3: trade deadline, with all the massive moves, with James Harden

1813
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 3: leaving with the beats of Zoobots out, he had already

1814
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: conceded that basically, yeah, I'm not saying we were a contender.

1815
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, we're trending in the right direction. We

1816
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 3: could mess up somebody season play spoiler like that. So

1817
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 3: it didn't go from and this is the full context.

1818
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 3: He thought they were a contender previously before the trade deadline,

1819
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 3: and then because they trade those guys now they're not.

1820
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 3: He already didn't sound like somebody that felt like they

1821
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 3: were a contender because they started six and twenty one

1822
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 3: and there's still two games under five hundred. They put

1823
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 3: themselves in such a bad spot. I think it's understandable

1824
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 3: to not think of yourself as a contender when you're

1825
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 3: still in play in territory.

1826
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: Well begs the question then, because it's one of those

1827
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: things that's kind of obvious to all of us who watch.

1828
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: And they've been on the hot streak, they've played well,

1829
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 2: but with all due respect to ad them, they're not

1830
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 2: beating Oklahoma City.

1831
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 4: Probably not going to be Denver in a playoff.

1832
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,879
Speaker 3: Series, probably not, you know, so give me san Antonio.

1833
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 4: He's being realistic. San Antonio, no experience, I could see

1834
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 4: it could be interesting.

1835
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 2: Potentially he used it picks Antonio to still beat them,

1836
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: but with what they'd be favorite.

1837
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 4: We'd see.

1838
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 2: I guess the question is, do you appreciate the fact

1839
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: that KWHI Leonard was honest about the situation. And I'd say, like,

1840
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna win a championship. We're competing every single night

1841
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 2: to try to win a championship. That's what the standard is.

1842
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 2: And now we're not saying that's not what the standard is.

1843
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: But he's like, look, you guys, see what we play,

1844
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: how we play every single every single night. You see

1845
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: what we put out there. It's just not happening this year.

1846
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 4: Man.

1847
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting a big picture wise, if you're

1848
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 3: a fan of a team, do you want that brutal

1849
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 3: honesty from real star player who feels like it's not

1850
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 3: gonna be a championship team. You're not in the inner

1851
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 3: circle of contenders this season? Do you want to know that?

1852
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 3: I want them to lie to you.

1853
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 4: I want him to tell me that.

1854
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 2: And also, Balla's ass off and score thirty one points

1855
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: the next night and against the Lakers in a back

1856
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: to back, well a guy who and people were criticizing

1857
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 2: him for taking himself out of the game or being

1858
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 2: taken out on a Friday night guy had ankle injury.

1859
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if anybody could prove to you, I know,

1860
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 2: he's like the poster child for low management, which is

1861
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 2: total bs by the way, because he's been dealing with

1862
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 2: serious injuries for the past six seasons.

1863
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, noame management. That he tore his acl meniscus, swelling

1864
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 3: in the knee might Now I'm not even gonna go

1865
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 3: into what the speculation is about him.

1866
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: The amount of work that he's put into gonna put

1867
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: himself in a position to play as many games as

1868
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 2: he's played this year, ball out at the All Star Game,

1869
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 2: ball out the day, the game after the All Star Game,

1870
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: or on Thursday night, and then come out and ball

1871
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 2: out against the Lakers again, even with him feeling that

1872
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 2: they don't have a chance to contend, he's still going

1873
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 2: out and playing his hardest every single night. I think

1874
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: most fans would appreciate that because, honestly, it harkens back

1875
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: to the old days, back when teams were eight, you know,

1876
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 2: thirty games under five hundred, with you know, twenty games

1877
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: left in the season, and everybody was still playing tanking.

1878
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: Wasn't talked about back in the early nine ers of

1879
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 2: the ar the eighties or anything. Not to sound like

1880
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: old or anything, but that's what it was. You played

1881
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: because you were entertaining the fans and it was your job. Yeah,

1882
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: So I appreciate him saying We're not gonna win the championship,

1883
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 2: but I'm still gonna go out and play my hardest.

1884
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 3: Well, and that's exactly what I said. It would only

1885
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 3: be a problem if it affected his play negatively, right,

1886
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,799
Speaker 3: if it looked like he wasn't playing as hard because

1887
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 3: he he doesn't think they have a chance to contend

1888
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 3: this season. That has not been the case last two months.

1889
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 3: He's probably been the best player in the league. He's

1890
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: played back to backs, He's played through injuries. Apparently he

1891
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 3: had the ankle injury going into this game against the Lakers,

1892
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 3: and it was the second night of a back to back.

1893
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 3: He wasn't able to play the last five minutes the ankle,

1894
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 3: the stiffness crept up on him, or whatever's going on

1895
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: with the soreness there. But Kawhi Leonard has been too

1896
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 3: good to the point where he's above approach in this respect,

1897
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:29,919
Speaker 3: I would.

1898
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, and it kind of harkens back to Kobe

1899
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: Bryant from back in the day, even when he was

1900
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: banged up and hurt and wasn't playing well, he was like,

1901
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: I get paid to go out there and play basketball

1902
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 2: games and entertained fans, and that's damn it what I'm

1903
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: going to do.

1904
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 4: And I appreciate him for that.

1905
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, whether they were in the playoff race and honestly

1906
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 2: the last four or five years of his career they were.

1907
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 3: Not apparently had the truth serum or it's just Kawhi

1908
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 3: Leonard being Kawhi Leonard. More FNA on Fox Sports Radio

1909
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 3: coming up next.

1910
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1911
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 2: That's right, final hour of FNA on FSR here on

1912
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Today. Hit us up on X at k

1913
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 2: FIG one and at follow Adam A. You know, I'm

1914
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 2: looking over at one of the TVs here in the studio.

1915
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: We got a live bops led action going on at

1916
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 2: the Olympics.

1917
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 3: What about the one nine hundred Call Girl commercial? Yeah,

1918
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 3: well is that still on somewhere off.

1919
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 4: Please talk to me please.

1920
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1921
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 2: So it's like we got what we got a replay

1922
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 2: of the Laker Clipper game on one TV. We got

1923
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 2: the Food Network on the other, we got Goodfellas on

1924
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: one of the channels, and that channel when they go

1925
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 2: to commercial break because it's the middle of the night

1926
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 2: that they throw up a bunch of PSA's and paid programs.

1927
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 3: Who's pathetic enough to still call a one nine hundred

1928
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 3: number for three dollars a minute? I said, the season

1929
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 3: to talk to the opposite sex? How is that still

1930
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 3: a thing?

1931
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,560
Speaker 2: I brought this up to Adam doing a break like

1932
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: last hour. At some point I was like, these were

1933
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: still a thing?

1934
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 3: Then gives you an idea of what's on his mind.

1935
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 7: Do you have that number number memorized right, Adam? It's

1936
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 7: on your phone speed dial?

1937
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 3: It actually doubles. Is you know what shows there that

1938
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 3: would have got me in deep trouble? You started this, Brie,

1939
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 3: I just asked, no, I don't have to remember.

1940
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 7: I'm sorry.

1941
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 3: I don't have any never remember I anymore. It's all

1942
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 3: saved to my phone.

1943
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 2: Sounds good, but I see this and it just makes

1944
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 2: me want to go home and watch cool runnings after

1945
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: the show is over.

1946
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 4: That's that's all. I think.

1947
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm a bad mother exactly right, as a bad moda.

1948
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: That's right, Maybe you should do it inte. Well, you know

1949
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 2: you didn't do the accents.

1950
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 3: No, I didn't. I didn't even try.

1951
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 4: Okay, not in the least.

1952
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 3: I'm John Candy in this situation. That's all just a

1953
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 3: little bit thinner. R. I p there good doc on

1954
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 3: him on was it Amazon Prime?

1955
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 4: I saw, I know of that.

1956
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 3: I didn't see it, but I I is it? Did

1957
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 3: you watch it?

1958
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 8: No?

1959
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 4: But I heard It's good imagine because it's.

1960
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 3: John Candy, the most lovable guys ever. Of course, of course,

1961
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: all right, stripes, Trevor, all right.

1962
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 2: So here on fn A, on FSR, we're talking about

1963
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 2: old guys, not ourselves. But you know the stories earlier

1964
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 2: this week a lot of older athletes coming out of retirement,

1965
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: coming out of their caves, saying they want to get

1966
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: back into the action, you know the caves. I see

1967
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 2: earlier this week that all of a sudden, Ronda Rowsey

1968
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 2: is out of retirement and she wants to fight Gina Carano.

1969
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 2: What what I was like? Gina Corano is still around.

1970
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 3: I had taken off the Mandalorian or something like that.

1971
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 3: Is that the same person I'm thinking of?

1972
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she and Ronda Rowsey are gonna fight each other,

1973
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 2: and a new I think netflix, Uh, they fight.

1974
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 4: For motion or something like that.

1975
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:26,839
Speaker 1: You want to patiently.

1976
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 2: So then we transition off of that, and then I

1977
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 2: find out, oh, that rumored fight between Mike Tyson and

1978
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather gonna happen.

1979
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 4: Really has a date.

1980
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 2: Not only that, So we found that out Tuesday, Wednesday,

1981
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: maybe of this week.

1982
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 4: That was confirmed com sanctioning that ass.

1983
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: It's an exhibition, so I don't know if this is

1984
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: how the sanctioning rules work when it's an exhibition it's

1985
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 2: not a professional fight. Yeah, they'll find a way. But

1986
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 2: here's the thing. Floyd Mayweather not only is fighting Mike Tyson.

1987
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 2: On Friday afternoon, he said after his Tyson exhibition, he's

1988
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 2: gonna unretire, He's gonna fight and sanctioned fights, I'm.

1989
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 3: Sorry, and put his fifty and oh record on the

1990
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 3: on the line against a bunch of cupcakes probably.

1991
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 2: You know, the last twenty of his fights were all

1992
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 2: against cupcakes, were against guys who were all washed anyway.

1993
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 3: So that's kind of exciting. I don't know, I won

1994
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 3: his boy.

1995
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 4: Forty four or something.

1996
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, going up against Mike Tyson and Mike Tyson's

1997
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: punch out forty eight.

1998
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 4: So he's knocking on the door of fifty.

1999
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 3: Then now, wait a second, what if he loses to

2000
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson? Is he still coming out of retirement? Yeah,

2001
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: I mean that would be a If you lose, you're

2002
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 3: probably too washed to be fighting for real. I don't

2003
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 3: know if it could be sanctioned anyway. What's the weight

2004
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 3: difference between the two of them? I mean, my god, Yeah,

2005
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: that's like old school UFC fights.

2006
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have you have like one of the

2007
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 2: mini's fighting like a titan, Like.

2008
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 3: What different disciplines? Guys who are two fifty going up

2009
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 3: against guys who are one fifty The Gray Seas Is

2010
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 3: that type of thing? Freak show sanctioned something like that?

2011
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: So and look, we know how these have gone with

2012
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 2: the Paul brothers and a lot of their fights and

2013
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 2: whether or not they're staged and all that.

2014
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 3: They do way too well as all they really do.

2015
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they found a market and they're dominating

2016
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: to get more power to them as businessman. I ain't

2017
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: watching that crap, but that's just me.

2018
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 3: What about when it's free on Netflix? Kevin, you look

2019
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: down on me for watching that? Yes, that's the real

2020
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 3: sweet science. Come on, those guys, know what they're doing.

2021
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: Yes, science.

2022
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: So then we also find out the Master's coming up,

2023
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: and Tiger Woods was asked whether or not he was

2024
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: going to compete in the Masters this year, and he

2025
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 2: didn't say he wouldn't. She is making a lot of

2026
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 2: people say, all right, mabe, he's gonna try to come back,

2027
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: even though he has been the biggest shell of himself

2028
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: the last however many years it's been.

2029
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 3: I haven't paid attention. There's probably a reason for that.

2030
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 3: Ye's been that bad. He hasn't been on my radar.

2031
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: He had that magical run at the Masters, was it

2032
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen where he came out

2033
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 2: of nowhere and won and it was magical and it

2034
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 2: was spectacular.

2035
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 3: That was it.

2036
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 4: And it's been all downhill ever since. Yeah, completely downhill every.

2037
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 3: Including more surgeries, the car accident. He almost died, that's right.

2038
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 3: I'm just happy he's alive. But you know, if he

2039
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 3: wants to be in the Masters again, because that was

2040
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 3: his tournament.

2041
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 2: Well yes, So it has me thinking at him like,

2042
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: all right, you think of some of the all time

2043
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: greats and trail blazers and guys who have put had

2044
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: great records you think of Mike Tyson historic fights that

2045
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: he's had, Foy Mayweather hated money Mayweather and all that.

2046
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 2: And you know, Ronda Rousey was the face of the

2047
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: UFC women or men for a while there for a

2048
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 2: little bit.

2049
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 3: Oh to who was it the godd or that kicked.

2050
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 2: Holly Holme? Cybog got somebody good the cyborg.

2051
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 3: Tap. I thought cyborg like there was a test or something.

2052
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2053
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 7: No, No, was she a guy or p D testosterone?

2054
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 3: I thought this stuff was.

2055
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 2: I thought these things were rumored, but I don't know

2056
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 2: if they were ever controlled. I didn't totallyoking for okay,

2057
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: so I didn't follow it super closely, full full disclosure.

2058
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 3: Any either, no idea what's going on? So I don't

2059
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 3: know what you guys are talking about. I'm still thinking

2060
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 3: about the sex hotline.

2061
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 4: So Adam, clearly, so are you.

2062
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 2: So you're intrigued by seeing Floyd take on Mike Tyson

2063
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: despite the fact that they're both kind of old and

2064
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 2: sadly washed up a little bit, I don't feel good

2065
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: about That's like a guilty pleasure talking because it's like,

2066
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 2: do you want to see your old school legency? You

2067
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 2: remember having great historic fights and looking dominant, basically coming

2068
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: out looking feeble.

2069
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 3: The truth is no, because it goes back to like

2070
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 3: Arrest of Development, coming back ten years after they canceled

2071
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 3: it good and it being complete trash, Like I hated that.

2072
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 3: I hate when I have to see mistake. My favorite

2073
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 3: artists come back around with a late sequel that sucks,

2074
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 3: with an album later on that sucks with a director

2075
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 3: who's washed Francis Ford couple of like I can't Steven Spielberg.

2076
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 3: I can't stand that stuff. I want to remember them

2077
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 3: at the peak of their powers.

2078
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 2: So you're really gonna hate the comeback of Scrubs then,

2079
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 2: I can already see that criticism coming.

2080
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,959
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm a kind of intrigued the preview.

2081
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 4: I already know I shouldn't.

2082
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 3: I know I've made this mistake before, but I always

2083
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 3: said we were the Turk and JD of sports talk.

2084
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 4: Radio here say that. That's right.

2085
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Scrubs is a special place in my heart,

2086
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,480
Speaker 3: and the truth is it didn't end that great anyways.

2087
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 3: Same with X Files. If a show doesn't go out

2088
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 3: that well, I'm like, you know what, if you want

2089
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 3: to bring it back, It's not like they're ruining this

2090
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 3: flawless product or anything like that.

2091
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 2: Now, obviously that's different when it comes to movies or

2092
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: television as opposed to a professional athlete.

2093
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:39,759
Speaker 4: So I'm going to reach your nator.

2094
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 2: At some point in time, it all goes downhill, and

2095
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: it's just a matter of fact of when you decide

2096
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 2: you want to hang it up. You mentioned Lebron James

2097
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: at one point last hour. Now Lebron James is stopped

2098
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: playing at the same level obviously as he had in

2099
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: his prime.

2100
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 4: He's playing as a high level role player.

2101
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 2: I think it's probably the best way to describehim at

2102
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: this point, which is amazing considering how old he is.

2103
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 3: I think, Look, he was sixth in MVP last season.

2104
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 3: He was All NBA second team. Now they've had an

2105
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 3: up and down year in some ways because of all

2106
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 3: the injuries, and he's a part of that.

2107
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 4: He'd probably be third team if you were healthy and

2108
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 4: eligible this year.

2109
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 3: Like if you're third team All NBA, that means you're

2110
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 3: a top fifteen player in the league. Now he won't

2111
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 3: be eligible because he's not going to play enough games

2112
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 3: to get the NBA awards. But he still looks like

2113
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 3: a top twenty twenty five player. In the league, which

2114
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 3: is saying something.

2115
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: So he's offering someone who is not at the top

2116
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: of his game but still very very effective, very much

2117
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 2: making an impact on the sport. So someone you really

2118
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: can't hold things against. But we've seen it, and there

2119
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 2: are memes out there. There were you know, when Rousey

2120
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 2: and Carno came out and announced they were going to

2121
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: be fighting each other. That's where he started seeing the

2122
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: photos of Patrick Ewing posting up a Quimo LaJuan and

2123
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 2: Patrick's wearing Orlando Magic jersey and a cama Is in

2124
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 2: a Toronto Raptors jersey, and nobody wants to remember.

2125
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 4: Guys like that.

2126
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 3: I like to Patrick Ewing with Seattle. I was on

2127
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,879
Speaker 3: a preseason game against the Kings up at Arco Arena

2128
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 3: back in the day Kings and Seattle and play. There's

2129
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 3: like stars were playing back then, even old washed stars

2130
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 3: like Patrick Ewing in the preseason and somebody did something

2131
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 3: to him and he did the other type of flipoff,

2132
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:12,839
Speaker 3: crossed the arms to the crowd.

2133
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

2134
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 3: And it wasn't me heckling him. It wasn't my fault

2135
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 3: this time. But that's how I always remember Patrick Ewing

2136
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 3: and a Seattle in a Seattle SuperSonics uniform. When they

2137
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 3: don't even exist anymore, they'll be back eventually flipping off

2138
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 3: the crowd in a preseason game.

2139
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No one wants to see that. Michael Jordan,

2140
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 2: at least he didn't. He played very well as a

2141
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 2: member of the Washington Wizards.

2142
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 3: I look differently. I look back on it differently, Okay.

2143
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 6: I know.

2144
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 3: I do think at the time it was disappointing after

2145
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 3: the first three months, and he tours meniscus or whatever,

2146
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 3: and he still tried to play through it, but he

2147
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 3: wasn't the same. The first few months, he looked really good,

2148
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 3: and I think they were like a top four seed

2149
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 3: in the Eastern Conference for a while, the Wizards, and

2150
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 3: it looked like, oh my god, Jordan's gonna do this

2151
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 3: with the Washington Wizards. They're gonna make the playoffs. This

2152
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 3: is more impressive than all six of his ring And

2153
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 3: then he hurt his knee, and then he was dragging

2154
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 3: one leg around for a while, and then you had

2155
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 3: to play all eighty two games his last season where

2156
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 3: he was thirty nine and forty, and he still had

2157
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 3: some impressive games where he dropped a game winner on

2158
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 3: Sean Marry and he dropped fifty at Madison Square Garden

2159
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 3: he got the Charlotte Hornets, And I do think overall, well,

2160
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 3: I thought it was disappointing at the time because he

2161
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 3: had the most perfect ending to his career with the

2162
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 3: shot over Byron Russell push off or not him holding

2163
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 3: the polls who was in the form it was? It

2164
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 3: was beautiful. You know, that's their WiFi password at Utah

2165
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 3: in the arena at the Delta Center. Jordan pushed off.

2166
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 4: That's incredible, that's amazing.

2167
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 3: I got that intel from Carlo Jimenez last time the

2168
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 3: Clippers were there on the call. But I actually think

2169
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 3: it did kind of extend his legacy or enhance it

2170
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 3: in some ways. It's actually pretty impressive now to look

2171
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 3: back and just those games where he could reach back

2172
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 3: to his prime here and there and put together great

2173
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 3: performances at a later age of thirty nine or forty.

2174
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's great because you know, he played well,

2175
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,560
Speaker 2: they didn't make the postseason. He also didn't have a

2176
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,719
Speaker 2: whole lot around him. You mentioned he was battling injuries,

2177
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 2: and he'd had knee problems in a bunch of other things,

2178
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 2: and battled through that and was still efficient and was

2179
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 2: still a good player. Wasn't flying above the room like

2180
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 2: he was previously?

2181
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 3: Efficient?

2182
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 2: Is kind the forty six percent or something he could

2183
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 2: have been much worse considering his age. Yeah, I mean

2184
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 2: for a guy that classically shot well over fifty percent

2185
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 2: for his entire career and knowing the kind of shots

2186
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 2: that he was taking at that point.

2187
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 3: In his career with Washington, yeah, mostly just a jump shit.

2188
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 2: I think he was fairly efficient for the type of

2189
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 2: player that he was at that point in time in

2190
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: his career.

2191
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 3: Now, he didn't totally embarrass himself. I don't buy into that.

2192
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 3: I've watched too many of those games and been like, damn,

2193
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 3: he was still pretty dominant out there at times.

2194
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 2: The problem is you see guys like Shack playing for

2195
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 2: the Celtics and the Cavaliers, and there's probably somebody I'm

2196
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 2: forgetting the suns. Remember he was the Shactus or whatever

2197
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 2: it was, the big captor I brought the Celtics. He

2198
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 2: had the Big Cactus and all these different teams that

2199
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 2: he was just a bad I got on forward towards

2200
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 2: the end of his career, and it's like it didn't

2201
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: tarnish his legacy, but I certainly do remember those.

2202
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 3: I think his media career is tarnished his legacy more

2203
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 3: than anything else. He and Charles, we forget how good

2204
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 3: they were as players because of what they have, the

2205
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 3: what they've turned caricatures on TV. They admit to not

2206
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 3: watching the games. Their analysis is very poor. They are

2207
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 3: all time great, and sometimes that gets lost because they're

2208
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 3: almost more known for being broadcasters, at least to the

2209
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 3: younger crowd. Now, oh yeah, well yeah, these kids have

2210
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 3: no concept of them as players for sure.

2211
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 4: But I think of like EMMITTT.

2212
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 2: Smith with the Cardinals, La Danian Tomlinson with the Jets.

2213
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had his moments they got to the playoffs.

2214
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 3: I thought he had like one playoff game where he

2215
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 3: had one hundred and twenty yards or something like that,

2216
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,719
Speaker 3: and he actually had it was his best playoff game

2217
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 3: compared to the Chargers. Actually, as a member of the Jets,

2218
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 3: was he.

2219
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 4: Playing with them?

2220
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 2: Was he playing with was that the Mark Sanchez teams

2221
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 2: that went to the AFC title game a couple.

2222
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 3: Of year was one of those teams.

2223
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 4: He was Ryan and didn't really do much.

2224
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 3: You know, Well, they got to the AFC Championship game.

2225
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:05,839
Speaker 3: I think what happened they were they had Mark Sanson's quarterback.

2226
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do?

2227
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 2: You see alt as an all time great, and you

2228
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: just kind of see him. He had solid seasons, a

2229
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 2: couple of solid seasons with the Jets, but nowhere close

2230
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 2: to his production beforehand. Obviously immed with Arizona, and it's like,

2231
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 2: you want to remember guys. You want guys to go

2232
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 2: out and it can never be perfect all the time.

2233
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 2: You want to go out like Elway and went two

2234
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 2: Super Bowls back to back and call it a career,

2235
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 2: or Jerome Bettis win a Super Bowl and call it

2236
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 2: a career. Michael Jordan the way we thought he was

2237
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 2: gonna go out with the game when he shot you

2238
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 2: referenced against Byron Russell and the Utah Jazz, and it

2239
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 2: just takes a little bit of shine off of it

2240
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 2: when you kind of come back and you just sort

2241
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 2: of peter out to a certain degree.

2242
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 3: You also don't want to go out abruptly, unceremoniously, like

2243
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders, he was still good. We criticized him for

2244
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 3: just all of a sudden leaving. I think he's still

2245
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 3: had fifteen hundred yards and he was at the age

2246
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 3: of twenty nine or thirty when he retired.

2247
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 2: I kind of respect that a little bit more. The

2248
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 2: player who says I have some left in the tank,

2249
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't want to play this game anymore.

2250
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 2: What we're seeing now on that front when guys retired

2251
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 2: early is I care about my health.

2252
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 4: Concussions are a big deal, you know.

2253
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 3: And we've seen Luke Keighley.

2254
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Luke Keigley's one of them. Who is the line.

2255
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 2: But Patrick Willis for the for the forty nine ers

2256
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 2: was another one. I think he only played ten years

2257
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 2: and still going to be a still a Hall of Famer.

2258
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 2: Guys are more conscious of what their mortality is, literal mortality,

2259
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 2: not just football mortality, and try to place more emphasis

2260
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 2: on that.

2261
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders kind of went out the same way he

2262
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 3: scored touchdowns. Quietly, Yeah, just hand the ball to the ref.

2263
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 3: He didn't have any retirement to or nothing.

2264
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 2: When you are considered the best player at your position

2265
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 2: and you're in your prime and you say, you know what,

2266
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:44,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this anymore. I actually have

2267
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 2: a great level of respect for you. At that point,

2268
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 2: my passion's not there. I don't want to put in

2269
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 2: the work. I don't want to do a disservice to

2270
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 2: my teammates and whoever else. I'm just gonna go away

2271
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 2: and hang it up.

2272
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 3: Look, I don't have a problem with anybody going out

2273
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 3: how they want to. That's their prerogative and their decision.

2274
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 4: I will agree with that.

2275
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 3: But there are preferences, Yes there are. That's because we

2276
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 3: talk about our favorites, guys that are beloved. You do

2277
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 3: want to see the Lway right off into the sunset

2278
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:10,799
Speaker 3: type of moment, my man, that's.

2279
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 4: The best way to do it.

2280
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 3: And he had not only won the Super Bowl back

2281
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 3: to back years, remember the first Super Bowl in ninety

2282
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 3: seven against the Packers or ninety eight, that was Terrell

2283
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 3: Davis winning the MVP against Atlanta. It was Lway winning

2284
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 3: the MVP. So he got it all on the way out.

2285
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 4: Yep.

2286
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 2: David Robinson is another one who went out on top

2287
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 2: as a champion with the San Antonio Spurs. So there's

2288
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 2: a couple of examples that just come to my mind.

2289
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: And look, he was still a really good player, but

2290
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 2: nowhere near the dominant force that he was, you know

2291
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 2: in the you know decade, fifteen years prior to that.

2292
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 2: But that's kind of how you want to be able

2293
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 2: to see remember your stars. You don't want to remember

2294
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 2: them playing for a team halfway across the East or

2295
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 2: West coast, depending on whether they're playing being a bit player.

2296
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 2: I mentioned Mitch Richmond was a really good player. He

2297
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 2: was never there like a phenomenal, out of this world

2298
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 2: player or anything. Right in the coatail, with all due respect,

2299
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 2: who doesn't make the Basketball Hall of Fame at him?

2300
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 3: How one of the are his nickname?

2301
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 2: Embarrassing? Hall of Fames? In Hall of Fames, everybody makes

2302
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame referees.

2303
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 3: I think he was. I think he's first team all

2304
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 3: underrated in NBA history. Honestly, I think he was that good.

2305
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 3: Jordan used to say he got to be better than

2306
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 3: a one. I'm just saying, fine, he was. He was

2307
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 3: on really bad teams though, That is true, so he

2308
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 3: gets locked. I can't I can't hope that I can't

2309
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 3: hold that against him. That is true.

2310
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 2: But I mentioned him because I brought him up earlier

2311
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 2: in the show, Right in the coat tails of Shaq

2312
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 2: and Kobe getting getting a ring at the end of

2313
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 2: the bench.

2314
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 3: Well, they had a guy named Samaki Walker that was

2315
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 3: actually nicknamed coat Tails by Chris Webber. That nickname was

2316
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 3: not for Mitch Trishman. I'll give him that at least. No,

2317
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 3: it wasn't.

2318
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 2: You're right, even Mitch, who didn't really play. He was

2319
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 2: in the league. He was at the end of the bench.

2320
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 2: He got himself a ring. He wasn't out on the

2321
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 2: floor embarrassing himself on a night in a night out. Basis, Look, he's.

2322
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 3: The type of guy where if he actually was with

2323
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 3: a good franchise during his prime, he could have been

2324
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 3: like the number two player on our champceship team. He

2325
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 3: gave his all. It just was never gonna happen with

2326
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 3: the Plezards of the King.

2327
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 4: Circumstances work against you on the front.

2328
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 2: But I see old guys like Floyd and Tyson, and

2329
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 2: with all the respect of these ladies Corono and Rowsey,

2330
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 2: lovely ladies tiger Wood, tiger Woods, trying to go back

2331
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 2: at it. It's just I know why, because you still

2332
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 2: feel like you got it and you want to be

2333
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 2: able to compete. And I understand it. I respect it.

2334
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 2: I'm just not a fan of it all. I wonder

2335
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: if I'm the only one no or if I'm the

2336
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 2: old man yelling at the cloud telling these other old

2337
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: people they need to sit their asses down, I don't know.

2338
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 3: You are not the old man yelling at clouds.

2339
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm getting old.

2340
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 3: You're probably in the majority. You rather see your heroes

2341
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 3: go out the right way. You'd rather see them go

2342
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 3: out on their terms, but also winning, but also looking

2343
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 3: like not a complete shell of themselves. I think about

2344
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 3: guys like, I don't know, Reggie White with the Carolina Panthers.

2345
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 3: God rest his soul, and he had a couple of sacks.

2346
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 3: I think he had five sacks that last season, But

2347
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,640
Speaker 3: it was still weird seeing him in that uniform at

2348
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 3: the very end, and he wasn't near the peak of

2349
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 3: his powers or anything like that. Julius Peppers later on

2350
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 3: came back to the Panthers.

2351
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 4: He actually pretty decent.

2352
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 3: Like the age of thirty seven thirty eight, He never

2353
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 3: had a major injury. He was an athletic freak. He

2354
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 3: aged gracefully out there.

2355
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 4: There are people who.

2356
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 2: Thought that he could have been an All Star in

2357
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 2: the NBA if he went to the NBA. That's how

2358
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 2: good of an athlete that he was.

2359
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 3: How about this is more of a unique situation for

2360
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 3: judging how you feel about this player and the way

2361
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 3: he went out because of his own comments being used

2362
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 3: against him and maybe being brutally honest to a fault.

2363
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 3: Steve Nash, he gets injured with the Lakers and he

2364
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:45,719
Speaker 3: made that comment on social media or behind the scenes

2365
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 3: documentary thing he had going on where he said like

2366
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 3: I need I want the money, like this is why

2367
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 3: I'm still here. I want the money. Like he was

2368
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 3: just honest about it and people just destroyed him.

2369
01:39:58,560 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't I man at him.

2370
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 2: I sign pin to paper, I got a contract. If

2371
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 2: they don't want to pay me, let's negotiate a buy out.

2372
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 2: But if I'm on the books, give me my damn money.

2373
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 3: If you retired, he wasn't getting the money. He wasn't

2374
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:10,759
Speaker 3: gonna retire.

2375
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 4: No, that's no.

2376
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 2: The way that these teams operate, they'll cut you loose

2377
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 2: to any sliver of someone that they possibly can to

2378
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 2: get out of your money. So by all means, make

2379
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 2: every penny that you possibly can quickly.

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Speaker 3: Before we get out. To come full circle here, how

2381
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 3: would you like to see Lebron James go out?

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01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 2: I think the coolest thing would be for him to

2383
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 2: go back to Cleveland and potentially be a lynch pin

2384
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 2: to them making another run to the NBA Finals, whether

2385
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 2: they win it or not.

2386
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 4: I think that would actually be a great way for

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01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 4: him to go out.

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01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna happen.

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01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: We'll see good Topic eight seven seven ninety nine on

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Speaker 3: Fox If you want to give us your opinions here,

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Speaker 3: he's kept Figures. I'm Adam Osland. This is FNA on FSR.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next. An older athlete that's still playing at

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Speaker 3: a high level, but got himself in hot water this

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01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 3: past week because maybe he's addicted to social media. I

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01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 3: can't believe this. I'm out on my Mosland. This is

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Speaker 3: FNA on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: In the final segment of the show, it'll be our

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01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 2: final edition of Breeze three.

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01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 3: We're still talking about these old men.

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01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 2: We are speaking of bree Bri. You have thoughts on

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01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 2: older athletes. While we were talking about last segment about

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01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 2: athletes holding on a little bit too long and how

2419
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 2: do you want to remember them. I don't remember Patrick

2420
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 2: Ewing playing for the Seattle so scoring six points a night.

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01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 2: I want to remember him as as a New York

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01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: nick great who was folding in the playoffs.

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01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 4: That's what I want to remember.

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01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 3: I remember him flipping me off.

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01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we were talking about Steve Nash and that

2426
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 5: kind of crossed my mind that, like I that Laker

2427
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 5: period of time is very like traumatizing and I don't

2428
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:31,600
Speaker 5: like thinking about it.

2429
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 4: Yes, sans Fan. By the way, he was traded to

2430
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 4: the Lakers.

2431
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 5: Traded to Lakers and then also I was just Drew

2432
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 5: Brees was on the Travis Kelcey and Jason kelce podcast

2433
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 5: and they asked him like, oh, did you think about

2434
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 5: coming back, because you know, Philip Rivers came back and

2435
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 5: when bow Nicks went down and there was a lot

2436
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 5: of like speculation that you were going to get the

2437
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 5: call from Sean Payton, and so he said he was like,

2438
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 5: my mind and everything was ready to go, but my

2439
01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 5: body wasn't. And I was like, thank God, like thank

2440
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 5: god that your mind was Like it was like you

2441
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 5: like recognize that your body was ready to go, but

2442
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 5: you weren't just gonna be like, well maybe I could

2443
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 5: still do this, and like that would have been so bad?

2444
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 3: Is it bad that my mind went to an R.

2445
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 3: Kelly song the way she kept saying, but my body, Well,

2446
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 3: my god, we can't reference.

2447
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:25,679
Speaker 4: I can't. I tried to forget R Kelly songs.

2448
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 3: Now that's a bad way to go out, speaking of

2449
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 3: old guys.

2450
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 7: I'm a Super Bowl champion, Hall of Famer. You just

2451
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 7: talked about R. Kelly like there's zero correlation.

2452
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 3: What was Drew Brees's last game? Was it against Tom Brady?

2453
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 3: They lost to the Buccaneers. In the playoffs with Tom

2454
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 3: Brady going on to win the Super Bowl, Right, it

2455
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 3: was that?

2456
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 5: It was that here, But yeah, I'm just saying it's

2457
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 5: not either. Thank God he didn't come back as like

2458
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 5: a Bronco because Bo Nicks went down.

2459
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 7: That's my point.

2460
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 3: Steve Nash could have been a good Laker, but he

2461
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,759
Speaker 3: broke his leg right away and then had nerve damage

2462
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 3: back and it was all.

2463
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 4: Was already he had back issues like ten years before that.

2464
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 5: And that was against the Kings when he broke his leg.

2465
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 5: It was like a preseason game. If I remember correct.

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01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 3: Well, that's a good memory.

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01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 9: I don't.

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01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 3: I didn't remember that one. That frees up.

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01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 2: An interesting point though, Brie, about you know whether or

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01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 2: not Breez would have come out of retirement to play

2471
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 2: for the Broncos. Athletes who come out of retirement who

2472
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 2: have already stopped playing for a year or two or

2473
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 2: three or four and all of a sudden jump back

2474
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 2: into it. Like I think of Jay Cutler. Remember he retired,

2475
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 2: wasn't he an analyst for Fox? And then all of

2476
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 2: a sudden the Miami Dolphins called him to come off

2477
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: the couch and play for them.

2478
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 3: I totally forgot about that. Yeah, right, I.

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01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 4: Try not to.

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01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he played how well? The first guy went

2481
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 3: to I'm getting old Brett Farva, but I think it's

2482
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 3: the postal Shop. It has to be Brett Faarr. Yeah,

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01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 3: he came out. What do you mean, bri Why are

2484
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 3: you looking at me like that?

2485
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 7: Because that the Vikings or are the Jets all the time?

2486
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 3: He came out. He went to the Jets right after

2487
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 3: the past Jets and then retired as you should have.

2488
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 3: But then he came back out and had was he

2489
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 3: a runner up for the MVP?

2490
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 2: Who was the MVP of that year? So that was

2491
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 2: the year that was the Breeze bounty Gate Saints that

2492
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 2: won the championship. I believe Breed the MVP was bree

2493
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 2: Were you the MVP? Drew Brees the MVP that year?

2494
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 4: He might have been.

2495
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,639
Speaker 2: That was when the Yeah, he had a phenomenal numbers.

2496
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 2: I think he threw like thirty touchdowns in like two

2497
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 2: interceptions or three whatever.

2498
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 3: It was the first game of the season. He throws

2499
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 3: that pass to the back of the end zone for

2500
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 3: the game winning touchdown. Maybe the Sydney.

2501
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 4: Right, that was the kid from South Carolina.

2502
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 3: He was incredible.

2503
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm getting old, and then of course we had the

2504
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 2: this is not Detroit Man interception in the playoffs against

2505
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 2: the Saints in the bounty.

2506
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 4: Gate scandal game.

2507
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 3: Far farved it up in the end. Yeah, but how

2508
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 3: many guys have come out of retirement? OKAYKJ speaking of

2509
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns, Kevin Johnson and guys not going out

2510
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 3: the right way. Kevin Johnson, but he did come out

2511
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 3: of retirement after he had some injuries and did Alonso

2512
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 3: morning Higher with the kidney issue and then come back.

2513
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if he ever season.

2514
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 2: I think he just he just stepped away to deal

2515
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 2: with his treatment. I don't know if he actually officially

2516
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 2: like filed retirement papers.

2517
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 3: I want to say Alan Houston was trying to come

2518
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 3: out of retirement after the micro fracture did his knee,

2519
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 3: and New York paid him all that money and he

2520
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 3: felt obligated to try to come back.

2521
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,760
Speaker 2: Brandon Roy made a brief comeback with Minnesota. I think

2522
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 2: it was.

2523
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 3: More micro fracture injuries. Joe Johnson, Joe Johnson. I so

2524
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 3: Joe came out.

2525
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 4: He played for like thirty years straight. Did he retire

2526
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 4: and come back?

2527
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 3: I heard he's still balling somewhere. He ain't just the

2528
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 3: Big three the Big three or is it outside of

2529
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 3: the Big three?

2530
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 4: Now?

2531
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 3: Like he's legit good still, he's kept himself in really

2532
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 3: good shape.

2533
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,759
Speaker 4: You get that handle on that shot play forever.

2534
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Now.

2535
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 2: He'd be a turnstyle in the NBA right now, but

2536
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 2: he could probably get your ten points to night.

2537
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 3: He was a turnstile back in the Dame.

2538
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 1: That's true.

2539
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 3: In his prime he was although a good Phoenix sun

2540
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 3: back in like two thousand and four, two thousand and five.

2541
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 4: He was excellent. That the genesis of.

2542
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 3: The uh seven seconds or yeah, he was right there

2543
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,640
Speaker 3: with Steve Nash, Hugh Richardson and all those guys got

2544
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 3: paid by Atlanta paid that to me and his money

2545
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 3: had a good run for a while.

2546
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 4: They did made it to the Eastern Conference finals once.

2547
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 3: At least who was on that team? Was there some

2548
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 3: vampire guy? I forget he was out of Buffy the

2549
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 3: Vampire Slayer? Did they have four All Stars with Jeff

2550
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 3: tg and Al Horford and they won sixty two games?

2551
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 3: Or were the number one.

2552
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 2: See Joe And I'm forgetting who the fourth All Star was,

2553
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 2: but they definitely had four of them.

2554
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 3: I wanted to say it was in Marvin Williams.

2555
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 4: He was a good player coming off the bench for them,

2556
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 4: but he was never Yeah, I don't know if he

2557
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 4: ever made an All Star team.

2558
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:37,679
Speaker 3: Either way, Lebron beat them in the playoffs.

2559
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 4: Lebron and Kyrie.

2560
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 3: They were a regular season type of team that had

2561
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 3: no business winning sixty games. But at the Eastern Conference

2562
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 3: was that bad?

2563
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2564
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 2: Now speaking of the NBA, oh no, oh yeah, no, no,

2565
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 2: we're going here.

2566
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:50,839
Speaker 3: This is pathetic.

2567
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 2: We talked about Kevin Durant earlier in the show and

2568
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 2: ring chasing and how that's going to be. It's weird

2569
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 2: to say that having two championships is a state on

2570
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,639
Speaker 2: your legacy and stain is probably a heart is probably

2571
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: a harsh word way to put it, but I mean

2572
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 2: people see you as a bit of a gravy trainer,

2573
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 2: even though you were the MVP of both of those series.

2574
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 3: They never let it go. Well, the problem is, like

2575
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 3: you said earlier, the Golden State Warriors could have just

2576
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 3: run it back. Redeemed themselves played a great series this

2577
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,639
Speaker 3: time around against Golden State and got in their lick back.

2578
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 3: They didn't need you to winep. This was basically, we

2579
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 3: don't ever want to lose again. We lost up three

2580
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,600
Speaker 3: to one. We were humiliated, and now we're running to

2581
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 3: kd as. Draymond apparently called him in the parking lot

2582
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 3: after they lost Game seven, that's the story, and begged

2583
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,560
Speaker 3: him to join them so they could team up to

2584
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 3: beat Lebron.

2585
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 2: I would never I'm still not gonna begrudge Draymond or

2586
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 2: the Warriors, or Bob Myers or that whole organization for

2587
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 2: trying to win.

2588
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 4: You do what it takes.

2589
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 2: My criticism goes to Kevin Durant, but none of that

2590
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 2: goes against Golden State. Any organization should do whatever it

2591
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: takes to try to win championships.

2592
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 3: If you want to do it on or Is there

2593
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 3: no honor? Are we not men of honor?

2594
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 2: We have money to we have money to spend. This

2595
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 2: guy was available, he wanted it, we knew would help

2596
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 2: us win. Dannit give it to him?

2597
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 4: Why the hell not?

2598
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 2: So the organization no issues. Kevin Durant all the issues.

2599
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 4: In the world.

2600
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of all the issues in the world, I

2601
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 3: think he's a social media addict. So it came out

2602
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 3: over the All Star break while he's in the layup

2603
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 3: line as he was arguing with somebody on Twitter about

2604
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,639
Speaker 3: why they hate the NBA so much, and I do

2605
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 3: understand where he's coming from. They were basically hating on

2606
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 3: the changes with the trophies in the NBA, like now

2607
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 3: they're crystal, they used to be gold. And it does

2608
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,799
Speaker 3: seem like at times people are just looking for something

2609
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 3: to bag on, especially with the NBA. That's typical. And

2610
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 3: Kad was like, damn, now you're hating on the trophies.

2611
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 3: And somebody else came in and was asking about him

2612
01:49:56,120 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 3: sending drones to Israeli armies to U and that's a

2613
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 3: whole political thing and I don't know how much of

2614
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,560
Speaker 3: that is true, but he wouldn't engage in the conversation.

2615
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 3: And then out of nowhere, somebody came through with what

2616
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 3: looks to be what he thought was a private Twitter

2617
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 3: group conversation between Kevin Durant and some boys that he trusted,

2618
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 3: where he's airing out his current and past teammates. We're

2619
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 3: talking about using the R word about I think Jabari

2620
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 3: Smith Junior. We're talking about Shen Goon saying he can't

2621
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 3: defend like he's killing his rockets teammates, And allegedly those

2622
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 3: were messages from Kevin Durant and what he thought was

2623
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 3: a group chat that was safe on Twitter.

2624
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 4: Can we confirm that it was Kevin Durant or you

2625
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 4: sure when somebody else is sure? Did you see his face?

2626
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 4: Did you see his face.

2627
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 3: When the camera went to him during his player introduction

2628
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 3: on Sunday for the All Star Game, and he had

2629
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:59,799
Speaker 3: this cheapest look on his face, like he looks guilty.

2630
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 2: As I know you said it, I guess assumed like

2631
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 2: somewhat tongue in cheek. But I do think he might

2632
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 2: have a bit of a social media addiction. He might

2633
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 2: have a problem.

2634
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 3: Oh I'm not kidding.

2635
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, look, here's one thing we do know.

2636
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 2: He definitely has rabbit ears. He cares what people think

2637
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 2: about him, and he has no issues telling everybody what

2638
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 2: he thinks.

2639
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,560
Speaker 3: It has been caught before with burners. It has admitted

2640
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 3: to having them and saying I'm not gonna stop doing it.

2641
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 2: We've lost the benefit of the doubt when it comes

2642
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 2: to it, if there was any So.

2643
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 3: We know he has burners, and we know just by

2644
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 3: the wording in the verbiage it sounds like Kevin Durant,

2645
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,559
Speaker 3: and then the intricacies and the details he goes into

2646
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:42,759
Speaker 3: with the way he's bashing former teammates and calling Russell

2647
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:48,719
Speaker 3: Westbrook by the way, the triple double Cocaine Bear, which actually,

2648
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 3: I mean, that's actually a pretty fire nickname.

2649
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 2: Really, that's not a pejorative, even though I know it

2650
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 2: comes off as it is. But I mean, considering the

2651
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,120
Speaker 2: frenetic way that Russbrook plays, I mean, I see.

2652
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 3: But I'm not saying the Internet is, you know, above

2653
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 3: creating this fake account that apparently would have had to

2654
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 3: be created years ago with some of the messages and

2655
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 3: the time stamping, just to set up Kevin Durant years

2656
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 3: down the line. I'm not saying somebody out there wouldn't

2657
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 3: do that intricate of a plot, but I think that's

2658
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 3: much less likely than it just being Kevin Durant in

2659
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 3: his burner. And when when he was asked about it

2660
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 3: at practice the first practice after the All Star Game, Uh,

2661
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 3: this denial not very strong.

2662
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 10: I know you got to ask these questions, but I'm

2663
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 10: not here to getting a Twitter nonsense.

2664
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: Something's here to focus on the season, keep it pushing on.

2665
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:39,719
Speaker 1: But I know I get you got to answer those questions.

2666
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 7: My tale's over there is we've been locked in the

2667
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 7: whole season been enjoyed.

2668
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 1: R Braden had a great practice today, looking forward to

2669
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: the road trip.

2670
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,520
Speaker 3: Twitter nonsense, my friend, you are the Twitter nonsense.

2671
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 4: He says, You know what, if you didn't do it,

2672
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 4: you would have said you didn't do it. What me?

2673
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,879
Speaker 2: Someone's trying to blackmail me or frame me. My teammates

2674
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 2: know what how I feel about him. I talked to

2675
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 2: him about it and told him that it will squashed

2676
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 2: that it wasn't if it wasn't you, to say it

2677
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 2: wasn't you. The fact that you didn't say that it

2678
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 2: wasn't you, But then that's an admission of guilt.

2679
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 3: He knows there's more receipts out there, and if he

2680
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 3: adamantly denied it and called them liars.

2681
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: I wish you weren't a liar.

2682
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 3: They'll probably get more evidence. So it's not like it's

2683
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 3: a court of law. He could have just lied there,

2684
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 3: and he didn't want to because he knows they got

2685
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 3: the goods on him.

2686
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 2: So the problem is internally, how do you even handle

2687
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 2: that if your e may if you're one of the teammates.

2688
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 3: Jerari Smith Luckily that won the first game against Charlotte,

2689
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 3: and he played well, I didn't cure us all.

2690
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 4: He cures most. Look, we've seen dysfunctional teams play.

2691
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Shaq and Kobe found a way to make

2692
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 2: you work and won three championships and we're at each

2693
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: other's throats. We've seen teams be able to win, even

2694
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 2: towards the end of Golden State, where Draymond Green and

2695
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:49,639
Speaker 2: Cavin Durant were at each other's throats there for a while.

2696
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that everything is good in that locker

2697
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 2: room now. And when you're supposed to be the veteran

2698
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 2: presidents on that team, the veteran leader, how am I

2699
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 2: if I'm Jabari Smith is supposed to trust you?

2700
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:00,040
Speaker 3: Well, they already got issues. Their offense has regressed. This

2701
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 3: is the season has gone along. They did nothing to

2702
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 3: bring in a playmaker at the trade deadline.

2703
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 4: Just surprising, knowing that that was their biggest glaring need.

2704
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 3: Their GM said something to the effect of maybe it's

2705
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 3: just not our year. That's way worse than what Kawhi

2706
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 3: Leonard said. In my opinion, like they already had issues

2707
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 3: just with their play on the court. So if things

2708
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 3: really go south and they find themselves in the play

2709
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 3: in all of a sudden in the Western Conference, it

2710
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 3: could get nasty in that locker room.

2711
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 2: This could fester, which, by the way, they are currently

2712
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 2: only four games out of the play in so it

2713
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 2: is not out of the realm possibility that this thing

2714
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 2: can continue to snowball.

2715
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 3: Maybe KD should stop playing on Twitter and social media

2716
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 3: so much and apologize to a team his teammates here.

2717
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 2: How about you just go back and do what you

2718
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 2: said you wanted to do like ten years ago. Man,

2719
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 2: I just want to hoop?

2720
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, just hoop?

2721
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 3: What happened to that? What happened to the Kevin Duran

2722
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 3: I loved?

2723
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 2: Coming up next on f and A on FSR, the

2724
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 2: End of an Era. We'll get to that next.

2725
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:59,000
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2733
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Speaker 3: Before we get get out of here for the final time,

2734
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to cry.

2735
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: It's free, not one, not two, but three sports.

2736
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 6: It's entertainment, it's good, it's breeze.

2737
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 4: Three what we got breathe?

2738
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 7: All right, you guys.

2739
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 5: So Logan, Paul and Tom Brady kind of went back

2740
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 5: and forth talking about like WW wrestlers and like athletes

2741
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 5: and football players.

2742
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 7: So it just kind of got me thinking, who are

2743
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 7: like three football players that you think could be wrestlers

2744
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 7: WW wrestlers?

2745
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 5: Okay, so I said former or past NFL players, and

2746
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 5: whether or not it's like charisma, you think they could

2747
01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 5: cut a good promo or they're just super athletic. So

2748
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 5: my first one, I went kind of random, but I

2749
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 5: went Darren Sprolls just because I feel like he's really small.

2750
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 5: He's a little bit on the smaller side, so I

2751
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 5: could kind of see him like I can envision him

2752
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 5: kind of jumping off the ropes, kind of like a

2753
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 5: Shawn Michaels.

2754
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna be like a Lucha door or

2755
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 2: something like a Ray Mysterio or something like this, Why not.

2756
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 7: Just jumping off?

2757
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 5: I went Puka Nakua because I feel like he'd be

2758
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 5: a really good heel right now, because he's super annoying

2759
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 5: and it's just disgusting kind of the annoying.

2760
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 7: I don't even like him as a RAM, so maybe that's.

2761
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 3: What it is.

2762
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 5: But I feel like he'd be really good like on

2763
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 5: like on the mic, and just be really like frustrating

2764
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 5: as a heel.

2765
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I could see that.

2766
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 5: Then my third one I went kind of random and

2767
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 5: I went Gardner Minshew, just because I feel like he

2768
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 5: could kind of be like a hillbilly kind of wrestler.

2769
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 4: Was an evil mustache, yes, and the jeans shorts. Yeah.

2770
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 5: It kind of following like the Stone Cold kind of

2771
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 5: footsteps kind of.

2772
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 4: Thing, like there's a little bit insults of Stone Cold

2773
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 4: Steve Austin, but.

2774
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 5: It's all right, okay, Well anyways, just just the way

2775
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 5: that he carries himself.

2776
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 7: I thought it was a little interesting.

2777
01:56:58,160 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 3: Have some respect for Stone Cold.

2778
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 7: My gosh, it's just his bit.

2779
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 3: You're going to get the stunner.

2780
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 7: Onto you Mark.

2781
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:09,240
Speaker 10: So my first one I picked was Terrell Suggs. Oh,

2782
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 10: that's right, that's his name. He's good, Yeah, he'd yes.

2783
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 10: And then the second one I thought of was Endoma Consu.

2784
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 1: Oh.

2785
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 7: Okay.

2786
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 2: The problem with the Dama Consou was he wouldn't know that.

2787
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 2: It's an actor. He was rely literally try to beat

2788
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 2: somebody's ass in the ring, steps on exactly know that.

2789
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 2: So that's why I thought, because he would be good

2790
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 2: for rest.

2791
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 10: He steps on people and really means it, And I

2792
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 10: couldn't think of a different there's a different San Francisco

2793
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 10: linebacker that I was thinking of, but I only found

2794
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 10: maybe Charles Haley. But I was thinking of someone else,

2795
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 10: but Charles Haley. Charles Haley got Haylo's crazy too.

2796
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 4: Five like the Robert.

2797
01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 3: Hory of the NFL got a lot. He stepped from

2798
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 3: San Francisco on Dallas.

2799
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2800
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you had Charles Haley, you were probably winning

2801
01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl that season.

2802
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 4: What do you have, Adam?

2803
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 3: All Right? My first rip? This is a guy who

2804
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 3: actually was a little bit in professional wrestling for a

2805
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 3: short period of time. One of my favorite players ever,

2806
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 3: the late great Kevin Green from the Carolina Panthers back

2807
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 3: in I think ninety six. He participated a little bit,

2808
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 3: big personality, great athlete, obviously. Here's another one, old school

2809
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:29,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Turley. Oh yeah, the offensive linemans who was throwing helmets. Brie,

2810
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 3: What did you know about Kyle Turley.

2811
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 4: Ah before your time, youngster.

2812
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then finally, this guy might have been in

2813
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 3: in the eighties. I'm guessing he did something for the

2814
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 3: WWF at some point. He's got the acting chops. You

2815
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 3: still see him today. And doctor Pepperad's the boss, not Kate,

2816
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 3: Boss Bosworth, Brian Bosworth. Yeah, he could do it.

2817
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 4: He definitely could do it. I'd be shocked if he hasn't.

2818
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, so all mine former NFL players, Now.

2819
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 2: Those crossover those guys that have done it. Lesl was

2820
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 2: in Vikings camp for a little bit.

2821
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:02,760
Speaker 4: Terry Crews.

2822
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 2: I think I don' know if Terry Crews is ever

2823
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 2: in the WWE, but he definitely was in Chargers camp

2824
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 2: for a while before he became an actor. Here's one

2825
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 2: you realize there's a football player who's in the Hall

2826
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,879
Speaker 2: of Fame that headlined WrestleMania.

2827
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor. Come on, I didn't know that crazy ass.

2828
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 2: Lawrence Taylor headlined WrestleMania, fought Bam Bam Bigelow, beat Bam

2829
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,080
Speaker 2: Bam Bigelow and actually held up pretty damn well for

2830
01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 2: a guy that wasn't classically trained as a wrestler.

2831
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:25,839
Speaker 3: And on drugs.

2832
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, phenomenal athletes. So he did a great job. I

2833
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 2: would say Bart Scott can't wait. Bart Scott has a personality,

2834
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 2: has the facique, has the power, ye think. I think

2835
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 2: he will be amazing at it. And I think Max Crosby.

2836
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:42,520
Speaker 2: Max Crosby has the look, the tattoos, the personality for it,

2837
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 2: the insanity.

2838
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 4: So those will be my.

2839
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:49,600
Speaker 3: Three not bad bree close out Breeze three.

2840
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 2: Brie, do you have any final thoughts before we dismount here?

2841
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 2: On fn A, on FSR. Pree by the way, very

2842
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 2: instrumental in us being in this position right now.

2843
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 3: Were everything we do? Just ask her. I'm kidding, I'm

2844
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:06,880
Speaker 3: not kidding, I am kidding.

2845
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 7: There's always a little seriousness behind. I'm just kidding.

2846
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 3: Truth in your jest now, I sincerely, Bri, we do

2847
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 3: owe you a ton. Without Brie, We're not doing this show.

2848
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 3: She believed in us long before anybody else. Brie has

2849
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 3: had our back since day one.

2850
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 7: My man, I always believed in you.

2851
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I know you did.

2852
02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:27,360
Speaker 10: Brie.

2853
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 7: Are you sure?

2854
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 3: I know you did. We love you.

2855
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 4: We wouldn't be here if you didn't.

2856
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:33,600
Speaker 7: Thank you, guys.

2857
02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 3: Some final words.

2858
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 5: I'm super proud of both of you, but super glad

2859
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,280
Speaker 5: to be a part of your guys's click for the

2860
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 5: past ten years and see how far you guys have come,

2861
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 5: and you guys are going to keep going and keep

2862
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 5: doing way and better, bigger things, and I'll be watching

2863
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 5: and listening from afar.

2864
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 4: Well.

2865
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,880
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, Brie. You're on to greener pastures as well.

2866
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 2: We hate to lose you.

2867
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:56,920
Speaker 4: You're a key component to what we do, as we

2868
02:00:56,960 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 4: talked about a second ago.

2869
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 3: Are always a part of the show forever, and.

2870
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 4: The door is always open for you.

2871
02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 2: If you ever want to roll in here on midnight

2872
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 2: on a Friday night, the doors open.

2873
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 7: And we'll do a brief three yeah.

2874
02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:09,280
Speaker 3: Sure, don't embarrass yourself by somebody like some of the

2875
02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 3: old athletes we talked about tonight.

2876
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, Brie, Thank you Mark as well. Thank you

2877
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 2: for listening. Projecting il next here on Fox Sports Radio.