1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A loving father in the 2 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: prime of his life, shot in the face over a hamburger, 3 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: a three dollar hamburger. You know, every morning when I 4 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: wake up, I go look at the Twins' first thing 5 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: I do. I don't wake them up, because it's why 6 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: they am. I peak at them. I look in just 7 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: to make sure they're okay, that they're real, because they're 8 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened to me. The thought 9 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: of them being raised, of growing up, whether their mother 10 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: or their father, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. A 11 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: father of a little boy just three shot in the 12 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: face over a three dollar hamburger. May they wrought in hell? 13 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: And with that I mean, see Grace, this is Crime Stories. 14 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation 15 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: and series XM one eleven. Take a listen to our 16 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: friend Brett Lemoyne at Fox six. Dispatch recordings indicate the 17 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: female suspect was wearing a camouflage pattern jacket and pants, 18 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: carrying a silver handgun. Four female unknown ones got into 19 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: a silver Hannah accord. This wouldness said Noel unknown direction travel. 20 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: Police have not released any information about the suspect or 21 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: suspects In a statement to Fox six, A, George Webb's 22 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: spokesman shares one of our employees was shot while working 23 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: at our Wahwatosa store. The employee was immediately rushed to 24 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the hospital. Our thoughts and prayers are with the employee 25 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: impacted by this incident. That employee we're hearing about is 26 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Dad Anthony Rodriguez shot in the face after two 27 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: female customers you just happen to have a gun with 28 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: them and wearing camouflage, are angry over their three dollar hamburger. Really, 29 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: how about saying I'm missing my hamburger? Would that work? Oh? 30 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: H doublel No, this had to be settled in their 31 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: minds with shooting the dad in the face, cutting through 32 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: his mouth, entering his head, with me an all star 33 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: panel to make sense of what we know right now. 34 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: But take a listen to our cut seventeen WISN twelve. 35 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: Do you remember just lake on the ground and just 36 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: leading out shot in the face over three dollars hamburger. 37 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: This twenty six year old George web Server says he 38 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: thought his life was over. I was in some much shock. 39 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't really remember being in much pain, but I 40 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: remember kind of internally freaking out and being very scared 41 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: and just telling myself that while I'm probably going to 42 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: die here midnight, January thirtieth, Anthony Rodriguez says he was 43 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: the only server working at the restaurant on one hundred 44 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: twenty second in North He says a few customers became 45 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: upset over an incomplete order. They were asked to leave, 46 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: but instead opened fire. I've never expected to get shots 47 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: being a server with me right now, That dad, that 48 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: dad who has suffered so much. He's lost half of 49 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: his tongue, he has bullet fragments still in his head 50 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: and in his lungs, and he has lost most of 51 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: his teeth, but he is alive with me, Anthony Rodriguez. 52 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Mister Rodriguez, I was so happy when I found out 53 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: you could join us. But hearing you speak makes me 54 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: realize how much pain you're still in, how much you're 55 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: still suffering, which makes me even more grateful that you 56 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: were with us today to tell your story. So thank 57 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: you for that. What happened, mister Rodriguez, Well it happened 58 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: was just anger got the best got the best of people. Unfortunately, 59 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: you know a lot of impatience happened that night, and unfortunately, 60 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: nothing wying to de escalate. You know, you just said 61 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: something that really struck home, Anthony. You said, impatience. I've 62 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: been listening to a series of devotions and they talk 63 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: about all the figures in the Bible that had to 64 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: just wait and wait and wait for the answer, for 65 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: the outcome. I'm just imagining what you just said, impatience. 66 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: You don't go on a rant on the women that 67 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: shot you in the face. You say impatience, And I 68 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: find that incredible that you're not tearing them and you 69 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: a hole, but you're not. You went in that night 70 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: at what time I started my shot? I'm usually there early, 71 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: so I wanted to say I was probably there. Like 72 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: my dad worked at night a lot. He was on 73 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: to keep his job at the beginning. To stay on 74 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: the railroad, he had to take what they call him 75 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: mobile out, which means you travel from place to place 76 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: and basically fill in wherever you're needed. One night, he'd 77 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: work at midnight. One next day he might work at 78 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: seven in the morning. He never knew what his schedule 79 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: was going to be, and that lasted for years. Why 80 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: did you Why are you working a job I've done 81 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: it myself. A night job. You got a family, right, yeah, 82 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: why are you working the night shift? I chose to 83 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: working night shift. UM actually fitted quite well between me 84 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: and the child. Of the mother and my child because 85 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: she she she just started a day job and we 86 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: didn't want to put our three year old into a 87 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: daycare systems, so I wanted to start working night shifts. 88 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: And right I told watch the child during the day. 89 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: What is the mom day the mother works um as 90 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: um it's it's almost like a leasing agent for a 91 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: high end um um apartment in condo complex, So somebody's 92 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: always with your three year old. Right. Absolutely, that night 93 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: when you go in and the restaurant is George Webb 94 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: a Wisconsin Shane and that was at the what's the 95 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: name of the town, Wawatosa. Yes, it's a suburb of Milwaukee. 96 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: So you go in that night about nine thirty, you 97 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: got there early. Was anything unusual at all when you 98 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: went in? Um? No, honest, honestly, that's um. Everything was 99 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: kind of status quo for that night. I don't remember 100 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: what particular gale was by remembering weekend, and I just 101 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: know that I was filling in for somebody else. I know, 102 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I'm supposed to actually be working on days 103 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: one of my off days. Why were you feeling in? 104 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: What happened to the other employee. I can't remember what 105 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: exactly happened to that other employee. UM, I just got 106 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: called in. Usually, I know, I like to pick up 107 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: shifts for other people because I just like, um having 108 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: the actually cash and stuff like that, trying of you know, 109 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: and working at the server. You don't earn that much money, 110 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: so every little bit counts. Um. That was a Sunday night. 111 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: January thirty, twenty twenty two was a Sunday night, So 112 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: you were working in the night shift on a Sunday 113 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: night to fill in for somebody else that called in 114 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: to make extra money. You know. I remember when I 115 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: was in school, mister Rodriguez, I was so broke. One 116 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: of my favorite nights of the week would be I 117 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: think it was Tuesday, because you could get two tacos 118 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: for ninety nine cents and I would literally pay with change. 119 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: And I had a night shift shop at a sandwich shop, 120 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: and it was like a big shopping strip and it 121 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: was on the end, the very end, and I would 122 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: sit there until I guess ten or eleven at night 123 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: and watch all the other stores clothes, and everybody would 124 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: leave and I would just be sitting there alone. And 125 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm just imagining you there at the George Webb. Had 126 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: there ever been any other violence at that George Webb location, 127 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: just just because of them, what time and what usually 128 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: the costumers that come in, it could give rowdy up. 129 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: Let's say I would save violence. It's probably the right 130 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: answer to save, but it could definitely give rowdy. It's 131 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: rowdy with a lot of people in there at midnight. 132 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: I guess anybody coming from Hamburger at midnight has already 133 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: been out. I would guess, although my son John David 134 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,479 Speaker 1: and I like to make Crystal runs at midnight on weekends. 135 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: That said, what is a George Webb? Is it like 136 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: a McDonald's or a Crystal or a what is it 137 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: George Webbs? Is it's more so like a diner type 138 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: of everybody's shaking their head, no one here. It's not 139 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: like a mcdals. It's a diner. Okay, I didn't know 140 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: that describe it. It's um just um, it's a franchise. 141 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Um that that sus it set himself off as a 142 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: diner um with um. I wouldn't say fast food, but 143 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: it does. It should be coming out rather quickly. It's 144 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: like short order. Yeah, it's still being cooked on back 145 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: for the most part. So I'm just imagining you there. 146 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: So you go in at nine thirty. You your baby 147 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: is at home with the mom. Everything's fine, it's a 148 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Sunday night. You're happy to get the extra money. And 149 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: then what happens, all right? Where right? What shift happens? 150 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's just um, we try to do the 151 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: best that we can with the amount of people that 152 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: are working that day, which is just one one person 153 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: for like each position. I would say, so there's one 154 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: server which is me, one cook, and then I had 155 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: a buster that nice because it was a weekend, so 156 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: that that was nice. Not all nice? Do I get 157 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: a buster? And then around I want to stay around 158 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: eleven thirty and I started getting really pats because usually 159 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: when it's filled up to the to the Brahma customers, 160 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: full tables and whatnot, they usually all come in at 161 00:10:55,280 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: once for some reason, so am fold tables and chef 162 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: gets over overwhelms with the amount of orders that need 163 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: to be taking place because they're all coming in at 164 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: once and make people people can get a very impatient, 165 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: impatient from there, because unfortunately we're the only restaurant I'll 166 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: probably that's probably open at that time and anymore because 167 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: of Colvid and everything else. I see a lot of 168 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: forlorn faces in this studio right now, and I imagine 169 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: they're remembering being impatient when their order didn't come in time. 170 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: Of course, I've never ever done that, because I'm so 171 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, patient. I'm just imagining the saying there in 172 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: that night, and you know, to hear Anthony Rodriguez tell 173 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: it everything just was normal, but that's not exactly correct. 174 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Brent Lemoyne Fox six. This all 175 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: happened late Saturday night and into Sunday morning at this 176 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: George Webb restaurant. Here behind me, the worker is a 177 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: live but seriously injured after what police describe as an 178 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: argument with a group of customers for frequent George with 179 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: customers like James Komer. I'm surprised to hear to add 180 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: a shocked, of course, us of what happened at this 181 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: whileo Tosa location over the weekend has many on edge. 182 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Police tell us a twenty six year old mail employee 183 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: suffered serious injury after being shot in the head. Investigators 184 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: say it began with an argument with a group of customers, 185 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: got physical, and ended in gunfire at twenty six year 186 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: old mail with a gsw to the lipped mouth with 187 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: an exit one in the back of the head is 188 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: conscious and breathing, you know. To Karen Start joining me, 189 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: renown New York psychologist joining us from Manhattan at Karenstart 190 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: dot com. That's Karen with a say Karen, that is 191 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: just hearing that dispatch. It just brings everything back when 192 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: my fiance was killed. Gunshot wound to the head. Gunshot 193 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 1: wound to the head. Can you imagine what mister Rodriguez's 194 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: family went through when they're hearing this. Oh, it's a 195 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: miracle that he's with us today, Nancy and speaking. And 196 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: I want to tell you that whenever you've had that 197 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: kind of experience, the trauma that you went through and 198 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: he went through, when you begin to hear something like that, 199 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: you could even be in a scene where you smell 200 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: something familiar, it will bring it all back. You get retraumatized. 201 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: That's not unusual. But you hear Anthony Rodriguez talking about 202 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: it like nothing really happened. He got shot in the head, 203 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: losing most of his teeth, half his tongue has bullet fragments, steel, 204 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: and his sinuses and lungs. That's traumatic, Karen, Yes, it's traumatic, 205 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: and it's you're wondering why he sounds that way. Not 206 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: everybody reacts the same way. He seems like he's just 207 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: from hearing him. A very considerate I hope, Anthony it's okay, 208 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: And I'm describing you this way, A very considerate person, 209 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't really become very dramatic and dynamic when 210 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: something happens. But it's real clear that this was a 211 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: traumatizing event. Listen to Nick boor WISN News twelve. Police 212 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: say video inside the restaurant shows her punching the waiter 213 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: in the face, giving the gun to her sister Brianna, 214 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: who pointed the gun at him and shot him in 215 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: the face. Brianta then quote stomps him in the face 216 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: before the four women rush out. The waiter survived, his 217 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: mom telling me it took quote miracle after miracle for 218 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: him to live. Every doctor I've spoken with is astounded, 219 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: she said, I go fund me is helping the twenty 220 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: six year old who lost most of his teeth, half 221 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: of his tongue, and has bullet fragments in his sinuses 222 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: and lungs that go fund me is all in for Anthony, 223 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: and I'm definitely going to is it that as soon 224 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: as we get off the air. All in for Anthony. 225 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: This guy's been through hell and back and is joining 226 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: us today. Anthony Rodriguez, do you remember when the women 227 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: came in to the George Webb what happened? Yes, I 228 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: do remember. I think that was a fair description from 229 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: the psychologist earlier. Thank you so much for that. I honestly, 230 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: I can't really go into too much with the details 231 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: with the open quarkias, but I do remember it, and 232 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: it started off quite quite normal, to be quite honest, 233 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: So you don't really you know, you got to treat 234 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: everyone as fair as you can, and you know, some 235 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: people have their quirks when they walk in and something's 236 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of stand out, but you try to creat everyone 237 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: with davency in respect as much as you can. So 238 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: these I believe there were four women that came in, Yes, 239 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: they came in. Were they making a ruckuss to start 240 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: with or did they just see normal? They weren't making 241 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: the rockets to start with, but you could tell that 242 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: they were a bit on the agitated side to begin with, 243 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: passive aggressive comments and stuff like that. You know. Wendy 244 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: Patrick joining me, veteran California prosecutor author. I've read flags 245 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: host off today with doctor Wendy KCBQ San Diego. She's 246 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. Wendy, I'm just telling you, 247 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: after how long was I in prosecution all in nearly 248 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: fourteen years at the end, I just had it and 249 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: still to this day, with people that are aggressive and angry. 250 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: At the very beginning, I'd have an arrayment calendar with 251 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five felons in the courtroom, half 252 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: of them in shain's, half of them on bond and 253 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: strutting around the courtroom. You know, Doper's child, Will Lester's rapists, murderers. 254 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: It's just an attitude. It's a bad attitude. Would make 255 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: me so madic and chew and nail in half. You know, Nancy, 256 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: You're right. You know prosecution work is well. I hear you. 257 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Rodriguez, he's one of a few people working. It's 258 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: midnight and four women come in, just really looking for 259 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: trouble with and as you. I said that. You didn't 260 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: say that, Anthony Rodriguez. I said it because we've been 261 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: working on this case and we know they were aggressive 262 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: and seemingly angry about something when they walked in the door. 263 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: There's nothing that I like better than to forfeit somebody's bond, 264 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: who's rude in the courtroom. Nothing I like better. Nancy, 265 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: I think we could take a lesson from Anthony because 266 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: he's extending grace in circumstances. Are you're talking about me now, 267 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Anthony Rodriguez is extending grace. I mean 268 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: he described at the very beginning that anger gets the 269 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: best of people. He talks about patients, all the kinds 270 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: of things that most of us wish we had. I 271 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: do not know what universe you're living in, because anger 272 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: getting the best of you. You might like yell somebody 273 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: or curse it's somebody or some people, not me, of course, 274 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: make a profane gesture in traffic, But to take out 275 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: a gun and shoot a guy that's standing there unarmed 276 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: in the face. Anger gets the best of anger. It's 277 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: not a defense under the law. The last I looked 278 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, or there will be nobody right now, what anthy, 279 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm quoting your guest when we began the segment, Anthony Rodrigue, 280 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: remember what he said, you are. I think that's right. 281 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: But the problem is we also have to make sure 282 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: and I think this is a I mean, these facts 283 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: are absolutely horrendous, and we have to make sure what 284 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: we have to make sure in a case like this, 285 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: when we have somebody that you have to make sure 286 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: he's really dead because they didn't just sheet and they 287 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: stopped on I'm in the face, they stopped on him. 288 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: I am on your side. I'm not saying anything. I'm 289 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: just saying that. It really impresses me that your guest 290 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: is so gracious given what he went through. You know what, 291 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, you know how I feel about you. I 292 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: think a lot of you. But I asked you for 293 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: a legal opinion, and instead I'm getting Emily post Etiquette. Yes, 294 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: he's I'm not cut her, cut her right now, Hilary 295 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Matt's investigative reporter w I s N twelve News. She's 296 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: been on the case from the very beginning. Hillary, I 297 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: appreciate Wendy Patrick being so gracious and Anthony Rodriguez, I 298 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: don't understand it, but I appreciate it. Hillary. What happened? 299 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: Did these women actually shoot him and stop him in 300 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: the face. According to prosecutors, that is what happened. And 301 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: the reason that they know that is because the entire 302 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: event was captured on surveillance video from with inside the 303 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: George Webb restaurant. Time Stories with Nancy Grace to Anthony Rodriguez, 304 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: explain to me what happened. They come in, you get 305 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: them seated, I guess, on a fore top in a booth. 306 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm guessing, and they order what we're wrong? As I said, 307 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: the food. Everyone kind of comes and plugs in all 308 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: at once. So all orders are going to the shop 309 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: all at once in some regards, so they can get 310 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: backed up very quickly, and the customers will be will 311 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: be waiting for um long periods of times for the 312 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: food because there's only one chefs after work handling all right, 313 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: let's say like eight to eight and nine orders, because 314 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: all the tables are full, maybe even sometimes eleven twelve orders. Okay, 315 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: So they order and it takes them off for them 316 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: to get their food. Then what happens. I was able 317 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: to get food out for I want to say to 318 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: two of the individuals, with the next two individuals seeing 319 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: their food right right behind them, maybe another couple of minutes, 320 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: and that with that first order, they either they didn't 321 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: say it or I'm certam, but they told me that 322 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: they asked the two handburgers, not for one. And I 323 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: informed them that if they wanted the second hamburger that 324 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: it was gonna it was probably be another thirty minute 325 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: wait after talking to a chef, because the chef has 326 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: to work on the orders as they come back. And 327 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: what happened. You're telling me a lot about the chef 328 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: and the order. I want to get to the uh. 329 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: The two women, we believe, both twenty years old and 330 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: patient and rude my words, not yours, while waiting for 331 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: their order, become angry when a hamburger was missing, according 332 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: to them, prompting one of them, what what Anthony? Well, 333 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: then at that point, um, they decided that they were 334 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: done waiting and that they didn't want to pay for 335 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: any of the any of the food. So I took 336 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: the food away from them and said that okay, but 337 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: if you're not going to be paying customers, and I 338 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: must ask you to leave, and in clear a table 339 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: for somebody else, and that's when they started to get 340 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: agitated and when things started escalating from there. Okay, let 341 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: me understand something. At Lisa Daddy, former police lieutenant. When 342 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: you have MPD Senior lecturer, Director of the Center for 343 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: Advanced Policing, Now see what he just said makes perfect 344 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: sense to me. They're like, where's my hamburger? And he 345 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: says right there, and they say, well, we ordered two, 346 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: not one, and he goes, okay, fine, that's gonna be 347 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: like thirty minutes because we only got one chef. And 348 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: they say, well, we're not eating, we're not paying for 349 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: any of this, and we're leaving. So he says, fine, leave, 350 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: I could use the table and starts taking the food. 351 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: And when he takes the food that they're not paying for, 352 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: according to them, they get mad. I'm sorry, what did 353 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: they not understand with that scenario? When they see a 354 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: price beside a hamburger, they think they're going to have 355 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: it and not pay for it. It makes no sense 356 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: this Kese and mister Rodriguez, I applaud you and your courage. 357 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: The Kese just it's horrific and a rational reasonable person 358 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: can't figure out why it escalated over something three dollar hamburger. 359 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: But you know, Lisa, in your line of work as 360 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: well as mine. I remember a woman a guy being 361 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: shot over a ten dollar debt, and I will never 362 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: forget his mom knitting on the front row of the 363 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: murder trial. I remember a woman who vouched for a 364 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: hit of crack, and then the guy bought the head 365 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: of crack and it wasn't what he expected. He goes 366 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: back and shoots the mom who's sitting in a lawn 367 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: chair in her front yard with her children. I mean, 368 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: why and now over a three dollar hamburger? I mean 369 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: to doctor Kendall crowd is joining us renowned chief medical 370 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: examiner from Tarrance County. That's fort Worth. Never a lack 371 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: of business there. Lecturer University Texas, Texas say an m faculty, 372 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: University Tech, this medical school goes on and on and on. 373 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: Talk to Crowns. Did you hear his injury loses almost 374 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: all his teeth, half his tongue still has bullet fragments, 375 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: and his sinuses and lungs. What happened? So, mister Rodriguez, 376 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: sorry for what's happened to you, And I hope it's 377 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: okay if we can discuss your injuries. I hope it's 378 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: not lanmitizing for you. No, all right, here, you're well. 379 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you this much. It's making me feel 380 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: seeking my stomach when I'm listening to Rodriguez talk and 381 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this picture of his baby, and I'm 382 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: thinking about the night shift and the wife on the 383 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: morning the mom on the morning shift, trying to keep 384 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: the baby out of daycare, and he picks up an 385 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: extra shift to make extra money. And now this I mean, 386 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: for those of you watching or listening, if you can, 387 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm asking you to please go to the go fund 388 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: me all in for Anthony and help help this guy. 389 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: Please help his family as little or as much as 390 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: you can help him. Please help him. Doctor Kendall Crowns, 391 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: I just I don't understand why this had to happen. 392 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: But explain to me the medical intricacies of what happened 393 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: and how this guy, Anthony is still alive. So by 394 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: looking at the photographs that are available of his injury, 395 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: it appears it goes through the front of his face 396 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: right side. We're looking at the same picture. The damage 397 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: to his mouth. He may require a bone graph or 398 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: upper mandible. The bullet came within millimeters of killing him. 399 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the bullet and the spinal cord. It's 400 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: right beside. It looks like it's touching the spinal cord. 401 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: So yes, fancy it's we are looking into the same pictures. 402 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: It's blowing out his upper teeth along the right side 403 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: of his head, taking out the the incisors to the molars, 404 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: fracturing the upper jaw, which is also called the maxilla. 405 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: Looks like there's portions of the bullet lodged in his 406 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: tongue and kind of his pharrenis or back of his 407 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: throat regent. And then the bullet itself continues traveling through 408 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: the neck musculature or the structures of the neck, and 409 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: then lodges and right in front of his vertebral column, 410 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: fracturing his vertebral column. Are you talking about his spine? 411 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: His spine? I apologize this fracturing his spine along the 412 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: area of cervical vertebrae numbers three and four, but does 413 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: not penetrate the cavity where his spinal cord sits. But 414 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: that can cause shock waves that you know, probably resulted 415 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: in him being unconscious. The thing is, is it is 416 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: a miracle that he's alive because that area of the 417 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: spinal cord, if it had gone any deeper or caused 418 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: any more damage, keeps his diaphragm functioning, which makes you breathe. 419 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: So he if it had gone any deeper, any further, 420 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: he would it would have resulted in him being either 421 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: a qua quadriplegic and been a later dependent for the 422 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 1: rest of his life. Let me understand what you're saying. 423 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: I think you just said he got shot in the 424 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: mouth with a handgun. I believe it was a nine 425 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: nine millimeter goes through the mouth, rips apart his teeth 426 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: with the force his tongue goes through the neck down 427 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: and to the spine. In the picture it looks like 428 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: it's actually from what I have touching the spine, and 429 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: if it had touched the spine, if it had gone 430 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: through the spine, he would either be dead or a 431 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: quadriplegic living on a ventilator the rest of his life. 432 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Is that what you said? That's correct? Back to Anthony Rodriguez, 433 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: who is a living, walking, breathing miracle. Anthony, one of 434 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: the women leave and come back in with a weapon. 435 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: When did you realize she came in with a weapon. UM, 436 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: I actually never solved the weapon, to be quite honest, 437 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: I realized that I must have realized that after I 438 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: got shot and sent to the hospital and sitched up, 439 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: and a day or two later I woke up, and 440 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: that's when they were able to kind of give me 441 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: the details of what happened. What do you remember? I 442 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: just remember the the altercation and just trying to de 443 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: escalate the situation and that not working. What were you 444 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: telling them to calm them down? I can't really remember 445 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: offhand what I was telling them, but I was just 446 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: telling them that it's okay, like you just leave, It's fine, 447 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: like skull, it's you know. But they eight they had 448 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: our things in mind. I guess they wanted their voices 449 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: to be heard. Take a listen to our cut nineteen. 450 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: Nick Moore wis in these twelve early January thirtieth. According 451 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: to a criminal complaint, four young women at a corner 452 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: booth at the Wabbatosta George Webbs got quote impatient and 453 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: rude and were told to leave. Instead, police say twenty 454 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: year old twin sisters Brianna and Brianta Johnson argued with 455 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: staff and started to get physical. A source tells us 456 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: the women were upset about the speed of their order, 457 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: and when it did come, it was missing a hamburger, 458 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: a less than three dollar item at West. According to 459 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: the criminal complaint, Brianta, in the midst of the argument, 460 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: came outside here to their car and returned with a 461 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: gun and moore from Tony Atkins t m J four. 462 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Roddy Riguez says it could have all ended here 463 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: at this George Webb. When he asked for women to 464 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: leave the restaurant, that's when he was attacked by one 465 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: of the women and shot by her sister. According to 466 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: a criminal complaint, I feel lucky, man. It's incredible just 467 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: where I'm at and just being able to walk and speak. 468 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: If you listen closely, you can hear the raspiness of 469 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: Anthony Rodriguez's voice is because a bullet is permanently lodged 470 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: near his throat. The bullet went through my upper lip 471 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: right here, and then it knocked out the right side 472 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: of the right side of my teeth. The cause of 473 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: that bullet, he says, I can definitely tell you that 474 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: it started because they were missing a burger from their order, 475 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: and everything just kind of escalated from there missing a 476 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: burger from their order. How I would love to prosecute 477 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: this case, and it would be over my cold dead 478 00:31:53,080 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: body that they got anything less than thirty cold dead body. 479 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Rodriguez amazingly is with us right now. Anthony, what's 480 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: the last thing you can remember from that night with 481 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: the Once I got to the hospital, I remember just 482 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: staring up at the at the I remember getting put 483 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: to the ground. I remember hearing a bang, and I 484 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: just remember staring up at the ceiling, not being able 485 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: to really move, and I have another coughing up blood 486 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: and coughing up teeth, just trying to control my breathing 487 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: as best I can, but just talk, telling myself like 488 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to die here. This isn't the way that 489 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to go. It's it was the longest you know, 490 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: do you think that it's It probably wasn't a long 491 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: time for MSS and for everyone to do the thing, 492 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: but it has to be the longest couple of minutes 493 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: that I have experienced in my life. I was just 494 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: trying to take you in what you just told us. 495 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: You can remember coughing up blood and teeth and thinking 496 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: you were going to die? Is that right? Best man? 497 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: Did it hurt? Could you feel pain? Fortunately for me, 498 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't really remember feeling the pain. I just remember 499 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: the inability to move. I remember trying to first like 500 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: get up and brush it off like it was normal, 501 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: and then I'll be back down to the ground right away, 502 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: and just not really being able to move after that, 503 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: and struggling to do what I can to maintain my 504 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: breathing and just maintain what real body of littlements I could. 505 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, it's admitted live as possible. What 506 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: were you thinking about? What went through your mind? My 507 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: sons says, hoping that he is okay, sound asleep. So 508 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: in the middle of all that, you're lying there, blood 509 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: coming out of your mouth, spinning out, teeth, can't move, 510 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: and you think about your son, your three year old son, Yes, ma'am. 511 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: Unfortunately I felt like a long time. So once I 512 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: was able to keep my breathing at a steady steady, 513 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: thinks that's that's all you can do. Is they think 514 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: about what's good your life? What do you mean you 515 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: try to I guess the strategy was to think of 516 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: as much positive things as possible and hope that you 517 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna get doing. You know, doctor Kendall Crowns. I've 518 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: asked you this many many times. Could the victim feel anything? 519 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: And you usually tell me, nah, I didn't feel anything. 520 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: That's total BS. You hear what Rody gets just said, right, Well, 521 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: I did hear what he said, and I agree that 522 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: some victims don't feel it because they are dead instantly, 523 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: and some victims that survive will feel pain. I mean, 524 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: anybody that survives gonna feel pain from it. Anthony Rodriguez, 525 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: You've got to know a midst of all of this, 526 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: how lucky you are, how an angel was on your 527 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: shoulder that night. Take a listen to our cut one. 528 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: This is Karen Dillon CBS two. Does the name Crystal 529 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: Nievs ring about? As the rain trickled down, the family 530 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: of nineteen year old Crystal by Ronnievez gathered outside the 531 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: Burger King East Charlem where she was killed, to lay 532 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: flowers in her honor and to pray for justice. Police 533 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: have released these images of the robbery that took place 534 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: just before one Sunday morning at the Burger King on 535 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: East one hundred and sixteenth Street near Lexington Avenue. That's 536 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: where beron Nievez was working as a cashier when an 537 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: unknown male masked and dressed in all black entered the 538 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,479 Speaker 1: restaurant and demanded money. Police say beron Nievez was shot 539 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: in the torso as the robbery progressed. Police say two 540 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: other people were injured during the course of this robbery. 541 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: A female manager at the restaurant was punched in the 542 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: face and a middle customer was likely pistol whipped. Both 543 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: are expected to recover. Family members tell us byron Nievez 544 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: and her family had just moved to New York from 545 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico a few years ago. The teenager had only 546 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: been working at Burger King for the past few months. 547 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: The family is now pleading with person responsible to turn 548 00:36:44,560 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: themselves in. Bunch Stories tell me joining us from WIS 549 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: and she's been on the case from the very beginning. Hillary, 550 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: what did the surveillance video reveal? So it pretty much 551 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: matched up with Anthony's story minus a few details. So 552 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: what it shows is after the you know, at the 553 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: table with the food incident, so they start kind of 554 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: making their way towards the register at one point, Brianta Johnson, 555 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: So these are two the suspects are two twenty year 556 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: old twin sisters. So Brianta Johnson is wearing a blue hoodie. 557 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: The video shows her go outside and returns with a gun. 558 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: And at some point when they're at the register and 559 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: there's this confrontation, it says that let's see one of 560 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: the soy somebody takes a punch at Anthony and then 561 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: and Brianta takes out the gun and hands it to 562 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: her sister, Brianna, and she it shows let's see that 563 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: she attempts to pistol whip Anthony and he's lying on 564 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: the ground and she extends her hand, aims and shoots 565 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: him in the face. And then the sister the video 566 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: shows stumps Anthony in the face and then all four takeoffs. 567 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, I believe I'm going to circle back now 568 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: to your discussion of anger, how they were angry. I'm 569 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: angry right now. I'm angry right now, but I can 570 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: tell you this much. I'm not gonna shoot anybody, even 571 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: though I want to, because I don't want to be 572 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: separated from the twins and my husband. Bam. It's called 573 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: impulse control. Anger is not a defense under the law. 574 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: They hit him in the face, they stop on him, 575 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: they specifically get out the gun, handed off, aim for 576 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: his face, and pull the trigger. That is intent. Oh, absolutely, 577 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: And I think that video is simply going to corroborate 578 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: what Anthony has described, that the sequence of events as 579 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: it unfolded proves nothing other than intent. And this is 580 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: one of those things I know, I know some people 581 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: have used the term argument. Doesn't sound like an argument. 582 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: This sounds like unprovoked anger spiraling out of control. When 583 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: here we have Anthony taking advantage of an opportunity to 584 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: make more money for a young family at home, literally 585 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: on the precipice of wondering whether he's ever going to 586 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: see his precious son again. Talk about not recognizing how 587 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: dangerous a job working the nightships can be at a restaurant, 588 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: And I'm just so blunt, We're so blessed, Anthony that 589 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: you're with us to be describing this. Hilary Matts. Where 590 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: are these two Brianta Johnson and Brianna Johnson. So they 591 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: are both in the Milwaukee County jail being held on 592 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars cash bail. They are both charged 593 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: with attempted first degree intentional homicide. They better not get 594 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: a bond. A lowered bond or a cheap plea deal. Anthony, 595 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: I am looking at a picture of you and you're 596 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: holding your son. You've got a beautiful smile. I mean 597 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: it looks like you wore braces. That looks like a 598 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: mouthful of orthodontia to me, I'm currently paying for two cents. First, 599 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: what perfect, Keith. You've never hear war braces in my life. 600 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: How are you going to get teeth back? And what 601 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: can they do about your tongue? And are you supposed 602 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: to go the rest of your life with bullet fragments 603 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: in your body? It's still a lot of the medical questions, unfortunately, 604 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: are still up in the air. They want to wait 605 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: until things heal up more. But it sounds like I 606 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: will be able to get my get tea replaced at 607 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: the very least. My tongue has been stitch back together 608 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: in a way, and and that's why I'm able to 609 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: speak in articulately as much as I can right now. 610 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: Praise God, Praise the Lord, Anthony. Do you have family 611 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: that can help you right now? Yes? I have a 612 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: very very good support system. My mother has been very 613 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: generous and um letting me stay to stay back with her, 614 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: and she's been helping me with the doctors and making 615 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: sure that I'm healing correctly and almost keeping me in 616 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: my place because sometimes i feel like I'm not doing 617 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: enough and I'm just staying still. But she tells me 618 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: the slow down and just make sure that healing does 619 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: what boy should be doing. Well, you know what they say, 620 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: they are no good men left Anthony Rodriguez, father to 621 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: a three year old boy, trying to work extra hours 622 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: to support his son. The go fund me all in 623 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: for Anthony. We waked as justice unfalls. Nancy Grace Crime Story, 624 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: signing off Goodbye friend,