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Speaker 1: All Right, I thought I would have an immediate reaction

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Speaker 1: to Ohio State's win over Michigan. I had said, I

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Speaker 1: knew Ohio State would come out a little tight as

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Speaker 1: a heavy favorite, and I thought, you saw that in

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Speaker 1: fourth and two and have really been able to pick

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Speaker 1: up yards when they need him today and they punted.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a moment to go for it.

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Speaker 1: Whether it was analytically or not. It felt like a

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Speaker 1: moment between Jackson and Julian Sayan. Their tight end play

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Speaker 1: has been good today. Ohio State's got better people right now.

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Speaker 1: I think they have the better coaching staff, and they

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Speaker 1: have better players. I know everybody thinks I love Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: I think Julian sand as the best footwork and release

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Speaker 1: an accuracy I have ever seen from any twenty year

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Speaker 1: old college quarterback. Ever. I text two people today, one

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Speaker 1: a quarterback coach and somebody else who had seen him

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Speaker 1: play in high school in southern California, and their takeaway

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Speaker 1: was always been smart, keeps it head on straight, keeps

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Speaker 1: the thing the thing, always had a good arm, can

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Speaker 1: just let it rip. Accuracies always been pretty effortless. So

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Speaker 1: I didn't see anything other than YouTube stuff. I never

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Speaker 1: watched one of his high school games live in southern California.

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Speaker 1: But he is he is a remarkably gifted college quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And two things can be true. He's not Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: through the television Listen. Underwood is big time as well,

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Speaker 1: But I'm talking about what professional gms are looking for

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Speaker 1: and coaches Julian Sand. And I know he's only twenty,

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Speaker 1: He's still got some college time. He is as good

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Speaker 1: at college quarterback poise, accuracy, footwork, release, He is really

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Speaker 1: something else and he has been all a year. And

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Speaker 1: remember that Texas game. We were all talking about arch Manning.

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Speaker 1: Arch Manning looked nervous. Julian Sand did not, and that

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Speaker 1: was one of the biggest openers in the history of

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Speaker 1: college football. So listen, I think Ryan Day deserves a

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day. Listen. I thought last year Ohio State was

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Speaker 1: the much better team. Obviously they won the national championship,

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Speaker 1: but I thought the game. I thought Ryan let the

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Speaker 1: you saw in that fourth quarter, middle of the fourth

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Speaker 1: they were just picking up junk yardage. They were moving

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Speaker 1: They just don't give you Everybody was critical of Underwood

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Speaker 1: O line, D DOT O line, D line, quarterback play, toughness, physicality, smart,

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Speaker 1: all those things that Harbaugh brings to the table. But

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Speaker 1: And I think Ohio State to me feels a little

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Speaker 1: You know, Obama Ohio State. They look a little faster,

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Speaker 1: him I don't like. I mean, the game now has

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Speaker 1: snow everywhere on the road. Twenty seven to nine. Lead,

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Speaker 1: Look at just change to play at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: it's just really impressive. And Ohio State since that lost

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Speaker 1: to Michigan last year, has just been a different program.

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Speaker 1: They have galvanized everything, didn't make a ton of mistakes,

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Speaker 1: State at their thirty eight yard line. Time out called

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Speaker 1: so the Big Ten championship will be Ohio State one

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Speaker 1: against Indiana two. I don't know how long conference championships

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Speaker 1: the point? It's just playing another great opponent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wonder about the viability of conference championships games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just do you want to have another seventy plays

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Speaker 1: to nine, that will make it official. Yeah, those conference

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Speaker 1: what's scary if you're going to face Ohio State is

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Speaker 1: this weather was built for Michigan because in terms of

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Speaker 1: So I mean this, what could get in the way

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Speaker 1: get distracted, clearly, clearly. An update on Lane Kiffen as

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss. It's not for loyalty. Again, America is the

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Speaker 1: Buckeyes now go to the Big Ten Championship. See you soon,

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