WEBVTT - One on One: Kerry Butler 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.720 I Am all In. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:19.000 That's just you. I Am all In with Scott Patterson 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.080 an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.640 Everybody Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one eleven productions, iHeartRadio, 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.639 iHeart Media, iHeart Podcast. One on one interview with the 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:32.920 one and only Carrie Butler. Here's a Gilmore Girls fact. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.839 Carrie portrayed therapist Claudia in two episodes and a year 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.519 in the Live Spring and Summer. Let me tell you 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:43.960 a little something about Carrie very impressive resume. Carrie is 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.520 an actress and a singer, known primarily for her work 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.360 in theater. She is best known for originating the roles 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:57.200 of Barber Maitland and Beetlejuice the musical, Penny Pingleton in Hairspray, 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.120 Various roles and Mean Girls the musical goal Cleo and 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.200 Kira and Xanadu, the latter of which earned her a 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.679 Tony Award nomination for Best Performance by a Leading Actress 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:13.120 in a Musical. She has also appeared in TV shows 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.400 One Life to Live, The MINDI Project, Law and Order, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.959 S For You, The Marvelous Missus masl and her most 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:25.440 recent role, Ryan Murphy's FX series American Sports Story. Aaron 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:30.160 Hernandez Kerrie, welcome, very excited to get to. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:30.520 Talk to you. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:35.679 We enjoyed your performance. Had no idea until this morning 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:41.679 that you were such a decorated and accomplished musical theater artist. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.840 So let's take it from the beginning, because this was 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:50.400 nine years after the series. The original series, it airs 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.320 before you auditioned for the role of Claudia. When tell 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.120 us about that audition process and how you got the audition? 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.000 So it's a very funny story. I am a humongous 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.840 Gilmore Girls fan, like I'll obsessed with it. So when 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.120 I was doing Xanadu on Broadway, I heard that Amy 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:12.760 and Sherman Paldino was doing a sitcom in Brooklyn, and 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.480 I started I never read the book The Secret or anything, 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.639 but I started manifesting meeting Amy because I'm like, this 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.400 is my my dream would be to like work with 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.840 her because I was obsessed with Gilmore Girls. So one 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.799 day my agent says to me, so, you know, I'm sorry, 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.000 but there's this producer that wants to meet you. She's 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.120 seen the show nine times, she's a big fan. Would 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.959 you mind meeting her afterwards? And I was like, oh, 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.440 of course, yeah, and I was like, yeah, who is it? 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:40.640 And they were like Amy Shearman. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.720 Palladino, Oho, what wow? 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.640 I met her, We became friends, and she knew what 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.160 a psycho fan I was, and she actually said, I'm 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:54.880 going to write a part for you on the show. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:00.560 Is that right? She said that to you? What did 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.280 that feel like? Eh? 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.760 I mean just the whole thing was dream. I got 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.040 to go on that little park, I got to walk 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:12.359 to this gazebo, and I was also on with Sutton Foster, 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:16.520 who's another huge Carolyn also Amy loves her, so the 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.640 two of us were there together and fangirling the whole time, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.280 just at the set and everyone we were so excited. 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.360 I was definitely pinching myself when she called me and said, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.519 can you work it out in your schedule? Because I 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.280 think I was. I think I was in a show 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.360 at the time. And she even worked my shooting like 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.160 on Mondays my day off. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.800 Right, right, Wow, that's terrific. So tell us about the 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.560 first day on set. What was it like? I mean, 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.120 I remember who did you meet? Who do you remember meeting? 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:47.520 And what was it like? Yeah? 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.720 I remember just going on this set and seeing all 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:55.800 Miss Patty's dance studio, all those places and just dying 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:01.000 and I took pictures everywhere, and then I got to 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:06.360 meet Lauren, who was amazing. And I think all of 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:12.720 my scenes were pretty much with Lauren. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.000 Uh, I don't Kelly. 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.640 Yes, yes, yes, yes, But I didn't have any other 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.080 scenes besides the ones in the Oh no, no, I 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.800 had the fun scene where I actually sang, so she 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:30.440 would even put singing into the show. On fact, Dan 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.560 wrote the song that I sang in the show. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.720 That was a terrific show, that was so funny. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.800 That was actually my favorite parts so far the Netflix 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.599 episode is that that musical, The Stars Hollow Musical, was 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.080 the most brilliantly written, the most the funniest thing I 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.520 have seen on that show in. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.680 A long time. And I thought Sutton killed it. I 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.080 thought she just killed it. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:56.400 Yeah, really tremendous fun And I bet you Dan had 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.920 a blast writing it too, because the lyrics were hysterical. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.600 Yeah. He ended up giving me a copy of it. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:09.160 Oh really yeah, Wow, that's that's very special. So you're 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.039 sitting across from the two of them, we're talking about 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.200 Kelly Bishop and Lauren Graham, and you're just going back 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:15.520 and forth with a Quick Dial. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.680 Did it make you nervous at all? 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:22.400 Now, coming from a musical theater background, I always found 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:26.400 those actors to be really mindful of hitting their cues, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.920 and they just seem to be have a heightened awareness 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.520 when they're on an acting set, you know, knowing the 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.760 real basic nuts and bolts of what it is to 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.400 you know, timing, comedic timing, and it's like, you guys 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.279 are really on it. Did you find it difficult to 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.440 fit in or with the pace of the show because 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:46.640 it didn't seem like it at all. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:47.520 No. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.360 I felt it difficult to not laugh at the two 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.240 of them because they were so funny. Those scenes were 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.400 so funny, and to just act like I was annoyed 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:57.040 with them. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.839 And right, right, right, what? So what? What are your 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.599 fondest memories of filming that? 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:08.200 I think? Honestly, it was watching the two of them together. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:12.400 I mean, they are just such masters at that that 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.960 writing and the comedy and and and also there were 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:21.919 really heartfelt moments, like Lauren uh had this amazing monologue 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:27.000 that was, you know, very heartfelt, and so I just 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.599 felt like I was watching two masters at work. You know. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.320 Do you have a favorite episode in the Netflix episodes. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:37.719 Did you watch all of them? 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:38.520 Oh? 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:42.839 Of course, of course I watched all of them, but 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.680 I would say, you know, the first the first section 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.160 before I was on is More my favorite. Like I 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.320 loved when when Rory was little and all the going 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.320 to the prep school, all that stuff from the very 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.520 very beginning was was my favorite. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:00.000 Mm hmmm, So again I think we we touched. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.599 What was your reaction when you finally saw Stars Hollow 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:05.200 the musical? 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:10.920 I thought it was hilarious and really well done, and 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.760 I was just so excited to be a part of it. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.080 And the funny thing is, I'm sure you know this 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.920 that Gilmore Girls has this incredible life now with all tweens, 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.240 and I have a thirteen year old, so now I'm 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.360 suddenly the cool mom again because all of her friends 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.960 are like, I saw your mom on guilm Girls. Yeah, 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.680 and my daughter has Gilmore Girls pajamas, and it's like 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.080 I always dreamed that I would get to watch the 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.080 Gilmore Girls with my daughter. The only thing is she 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:40.080 doesn't want to watch with me. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:41.640 She watches friends. 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:45.400 No. 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:47.600 Yeah, it's disappointing. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:49.200 Oh my god, we do. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.160 But whenever fall comes around, I feel like it's time again, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.080 we have to start watching Gilmore Girls again now. 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.559 So you've never watched the show with your daughter ever. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.720 I forced her to watch with me a few times. 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:01.600 She loves it. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:02.320 I told her. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.520 She was very excited that I was doing this podcast 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.920 with you today, as I was. But she doesn't want 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:09.320 to watch with me for some reason. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.760 So just as she gets together with her friends and 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.120 they just watch. 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:14.640 It, or they're watching it at the same time, and 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.600 you know, like texting each other, you know about it. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:19.600 What is it about this show? 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.240 You know? You know going through these episodes, you know, 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.600 because I never saw it, and that was the premise 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.679 of the podcast. That's what I pitched. I just never 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.720 like watching myself. I didn't want to watch the show. Yea, yeah, 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:37.000 you know, I think most actors are like that, and and. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:40.200 So I never really saw it. I saw the I 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:41.600 saw Winter at the. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.960 Premiere because I was forced to sit there with a 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.640 captive audience. But that's the only thing I ever saw. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.960 I saw the pilot episode, which I liked, but I 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.839 never saw any of the other one hundred and fifty 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.440 two episodes. And I never saw the three other Netflix episodes. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.440 So that's basis of the podcast. And finding out how 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:03.560 darn funny this thing is. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:05.800 I never I look. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.520 I was in all the table reads, I was in 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.000 a lot of the scenes. I know it's funny. I 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.839 know it's high quality. You know it's sophisticated comedy. These 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:18.960 are very very witty people, Amy and Dan very well read, 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:23.320 various studie people, and this humor is really sophisticated, and 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.800 it's coming at you. Not only is it coming at 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.439 you fast and furious, but it's coming at you in 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.440 groups of ten great lines. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:32.960 I mean, it speeds by so fast. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.320 And this is the reason why people continue to rewatch it. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.599 It's a lot of things, but I think the primary 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.440 reason is the level of humor. You get the level 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.559 of great jokes, the unexpected one liners, And it doesn't 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.560 matter how many times you've seen it. You can't remember 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.000 all of the singers, and it's always a surprise, so 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.040 it always seems fresh. Do you find that as well 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:56.559 when you're watching these episodes? 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.160 One nd percent? And even when I watched it, you know, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.920 the first time, I thought, oh, they must be theater writers, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.520 because they would have very obscure theater references in there. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.320 So yes, I always thought it was hilarious. But also 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.000 I just there's just it's like comfort food. It's so 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:21.160 loving and refreshing to see that relationship between a mother 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:25.680 and a daughter. To see you know, her love affair 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:30.720 with your character, it was just so sweet and beautiful. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:31.880 Yeah. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.520 I have to tell you the experience of this now, 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.920 the way that it continues to grow and capture younger 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:45.800 and younger audiences. Every generation is discovering this show. I 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.840 just how can you envision twenty five years ago that 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.800 something would be have such staying power and that it 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.720 would continue to grow in popularity. I mean, it's it's 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.000 absolutely bizarre. It's a real phenomenon in the industry. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.080 It really really is. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.680 It's timeless the show because it's well written. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.199 It's timeless, right, It's going to stand up forever. Yes, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:10.680 because of the quality of the writing. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.120 Yeah, I agree. I mean these two really really accomplished 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.880 something special. There's a there's a there's a sort of 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.000 an honorary Emmy in. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.600 Store for these two, I guess. I mean I think 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:23.360 there has to be. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.199 I would be so upset every Emmy season, like, how 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.360 is everyone not getting Amy in this show? I mean, 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:35.400 even because the acting quality was just phenomenal, you know, 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:35.960 I don't. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.320 I think the critics didn't know what to make of it. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:42.600 I think they didn't know what to make of it. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.000 I think, is this a drama? Is it a comedy? 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.520 We know it's funny, it's dramatic, it's a drama, but 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:51.960 I just never understood it myself. 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:57.120 And to have a show of it's actually. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.240 Kind of a unique category to be in because there's 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.240 plenty of great actors and great performances, great productions that 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.280 never got nominated for anything. I mean, if you go 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.839 through the list, it's like, wait a minute, how but 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.000 she don't even get nominated for what this guy or 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.920 Meryl Street or whomever, or Kate Blanchette and everything she does. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:18.320 You know, it's amazing how often great things in this 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:22.120 business are completely overlooked. So you gotta wonder what's going 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.640 on behind the scenes. You know, it's like who's carrying 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.079 the brain's what's happening? 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.520 Now? Do you know Sutton Foster? Did you know? 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.040 Do you know her from your brother? So it's a 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.640 small community of people, right, and so you know her. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.680 Sutton actually understudied me in Lee Miss when she was 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:47.560 like eighteen years old. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.760 Is that right. So she was kind of a phenom 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.080 coming out of high school. 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.640 Yes, yes, yeah, she didn't go to she went straight 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:56.200 to Broadway. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.800 Yeah, are you kidding me? From high school? 0:12:59.080 --> 0:12:59.320 Yep? 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:00.680 What elite? 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.960 Where? Now? Where is she from? Is she from the Northeast? 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.720 Her brother is Hunter Foster and I had already or 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.960 I did a show with her brother too. I did 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.720 Little Hearts with mm hm. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:11.360 Oh my goodness. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.040 So it's in the blood. It's in the blood in 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.040 that Foster family. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:19.319 Yeah. Yeah, wow, what a talent. And she was also 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.360 a huge fan of the Gilmore Girls. So both of 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:22.360 us were like. 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.880 There, now isn't Amy doing something with Sutton now on Broadways? 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.000 That she writing in a musical. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:35.040 The Mattress Once Upon a Mattress. I think that's what 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.040 it's called. Yeah, yeah, it's a limit okay? And Amy 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.040 wrote it and Sotton's in its the star. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.959 Yeah all right. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:49.120 So so after the episode you filmed for Amy for 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.600 Gilmore Girls their revival, she brought you in for a 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:57.679 role in mysell and the Marvelous Missus myself. Uh, what 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.760 was the role? What was it like working with her again? 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.120 Well? This time I feel like last time she didn't 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.240 direct the show or this time, you know, it was 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:11.600 just there's so much going on in our episode was 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.600 one day where they were just shooting this scene with 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.160 a million different things going on, a huge restaurant, tons 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.840 of extras, and so it was really exciting to see 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:25.040 her in her element as the director and just how 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:30.720 everybody loved her and just getting everything, putting all the 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.120 pieces together, getting everything done. So that was exciting. And 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:38.160 we've stayed friends all of this time, so she's always 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.080 looking for parts for me. 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.160 Oh that's great. So you see her, you go to 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.480 lunch for her. Do you live do you live in 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:45.960 the city. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.680 Yeah, well I moved out to New Jersey, but I 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:49.800 did live in the city forever. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:56.880 That's yeah, that's great. All right, So let's talk about 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:01.400 this Aaron Hernandez thing which took over the headlines for 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:08.000 a while. So you've done plenty of drama and now 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.240 with your episodes just mirroring the in the Ryan Murphy 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.320 American Sports story. Aaron Hernanz, which do you prefer working 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:16.480 on musicals or drama? 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:25.200 I think I prefer musicals. I mean, it's great to 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:31.040 stretch that muscle, and obviously it's fun to be on TV. 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.120 But like I'm doing. I created this show with my 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.520 friends girl. Now we're going we just did it in 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.240 la like two days ago, and we're going to have 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.000 an off Broadway run. And it's just there's just something 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.720 so magical about being in front of the audience and 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.800 hearing the act right there, like having the palm of 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.960 your hand. And this show I do with my friends, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.760 which is even more fun, and we created it. So 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.920 it's just there's just noing like live theater. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.200 You know, there is nothing. 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.720 More vital than live theater when it's done well, I agree, nothing, 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.800 nothing comes close to it. So you're saying, is you 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.880 prefer the live theater experience that you're used to to 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:21.360 portraying characters in a psycho sports, murder, documentary styles serious 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.720 limited series, you would prefer to be on stage with 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.000 your friends, singing and dancing, magazine laugh. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.600 Go exactly exactly. If you choose, like what I'm going 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.880 to put out into the world, especially now, I think 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:38.400 I choose joy and maybe laugh and bringing people together. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.080 Not that there is a place for the other. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.840 There's always going to be a place in people's hearts 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.520 for psycho sports murders, dramas. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:54.200 There's absolutely an audience, and by golly, I'll be tuning 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:58.680 in just to catch your performance. I'm curious to see 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.160 what you did. What did you do in that? What 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:00.800 did you do in that? 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:08.040 I played Urban Meyer's wife. Oh okay, yeah, so old person. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:12.720 And who played Urban Meyer Tony Yasbeck, who is also 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.199 a huge Broadway star, big, big dancer, and this was 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.080 his kind of big break for TV. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.919 And he's, oh, that's you, guys. You go, there's something 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:26.920 about you too. That said to Ryan Murphy, I gotta 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.679 bring him in for the sports psycho murder thing, you know, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:31.320 gotta have them. 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.560 Well, this one, this one I did have to audition for. 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.439 I didn't get it just because I'm friends. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.919 Now, you didn't. 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.280 You had to. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:41.600 You had to earn that. Wow. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.840 Well, not saying you wouldn't earn if you got the offer, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:48.200 but that's amazing. Okay, so extensive theater work. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:49.560 Most TV stuff I auditioned for. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:54.919 Yeah, TV's tough is tough. It's a tough crowd. Okay. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:59.600 And you now teach a class called Breaking into Broadway 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.760 and it's a digital course for musical theater performers. What 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.440 is your number one advice for someone wanting to make 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:10.240 it on Broadway. Let's say, at my age, I came 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.399 to you and said, listen, I'm sixty six. Now I've 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.920 never been on Broadway. I'd like to try it. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:16.600 Oh. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:22.080 As a matter of fact, I was considered for the 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.520 lead role in Chicago, the New York production of Chicago. 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.080 Sure that couldn't well. 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.159 For now, you broadly be lucky to have you so, 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.560 but sim you so you hadn't had this amazing career. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.040 Then I would say, find the thing that makes you special, 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.960 like find your special sauce. You do that nobody else 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.680 can do. And like I could say, for you, it's 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.080 that kind of like dark comedy. 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.760 You know, like oh, I was going to say skiing, 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:53.919 So I was. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.520 Gonna say, I'm grumpy but lovable. 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.000 Okay, people lovable, right, And then. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.880 Like you know, just go into your auditions with that 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:07.800 and lead with that, and the parts will come to 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.080 you that you have. 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.320 Hopefully Amy and Dan will write me a Broadway musical 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:15.679 and I can start it. 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:17.679 Get out there. You got to do the secret like 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:22.359 I did. Yeah, it's gonna happen all right. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:23.639 But you you have to do it with me. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.720 Okay, I need you there, you guess I'm gonna like 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.160 text Amy, guess what, Amy? 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.919 Yeah, the old guy wants to do Broadway music. Yeah, 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.000 that'll give her a real thrill. 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.040 We'll have a most fun ever, like you would love 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.320 doing all. All people who come over are like, oh, 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:46.800 it's just crazy fun. 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:47.400 Yeah. 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.440 I no, no, I wanted to do Chicago. We just 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.240 couldn't work it out in the schedule. But I really 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:55.800 it was like, Wow, what an opportunity, you know, And 0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:00.200 I'm sure with all the rehearsal and all the professionals surroun, 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.240 they're not gonna let you fail, right, They're going to 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.199 make sure that you're going to give a performance. 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.000 You probably wouldn't get that much parsal, have I I 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:10.320 because you probably. 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:11.360 How much rehearsal do you think you get? 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.880 I think maybe maybe two weeks or maybe three weeks, 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:17.080 that's what That's what I would guess. 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.119 So what do you think the most challenging part is? 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:21.200 It is like getting the voice in shape, right, getting 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.879 getting your voice in shape and getting it used to 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.600 really belting out these songs, right, yeah, I. 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:28.840 Guess, or doing the dance moves, or just the stamina 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.560 of doing like the eight shows a week. 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.680 Oh my, goodness, what am I doing? 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:35.000 You can do it? 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.399 I believe you think I can do it. 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:38.080 I do. 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.679 We're gonna play a little game called rapid fire, and 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.200 there's there's no pressure. 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:55.760 To answer these questions quickly. 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.480 It's really I don't know why they call it rapid fire, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.639 but I just want to take the pressure. 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:01.760 How do you like your coffee? 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:06.639 Oh? I actually don't drink coffee, So that's how you 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:07.320 like your coffee? 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:11.200 With no coffee? You like an empty cup? Or tea? 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:12.680 Tea? I'll take tea. 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.480 We've got Are you team Logan, Team Jess or team Dean? 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:26.080 Oh? Gosh, Oh that's a hard one. I'm gonna I'm 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:27.600 gonna say teen Dean Dean. 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:28.560 Okay, I. 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.880 Love them all. I loved all them. 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.879 Who's your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and Laura? Are 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:36.919