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Speaker 1: And you do not win baseball games when you do that.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to the live Monday edition of

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Speaker 2: Dodgers Territory. We are your hosts. That is Clint to Cus.

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Speaker 2: I am Alana Rizzo.

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Speaker 3: Clint.

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Speaker 2: Always good to be with you. After what three days

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Speaker 2: least on Dodgers' Territory, and it was quite the weekend.

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Speaker 2: What's your biggest takeaway before we get into the big ticket.

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Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway, my quick takeaway is I hate bulletin

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Speaker 1: board material. It's fun, but I hate bulletin board material.

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Speaker 1: But we got that this weekend.

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Speaker 2: We did get that this weekend. That leads us right

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Speaker 2: into the big ticket. What a segue, my friend. I'm

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Speaker 2: so proud of you. Right all right, So, as Clint

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Speaker 2: the San Diego Patters and the Los Angeles Dodgers get together.

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Speaker 2: But there was an incident in which Jerrickson profar thought

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Speaker 2: Of course that's not the case because at the time

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Speaker 3: Will Smith, the.

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Speaker 2: Very quiet Dodgers starting catcher, said, I don't understand what

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Speaker 2: his issue was because he was irrelevant. It turns out,

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Speaker 2: Clint that he did become very relevant.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday Night.

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Speaker 2: But we can get to that in a moment. What

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Speaker 1: First of all, yeah, I think bunting there in that situation.

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Speaker 3: And he's just kind of laughing like this is a

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Speaker 1: I love I love seeing show Hay every single day

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Speaker 2: Point of this is that Profar did not clap back Clint.

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Speaker 1: So this whole situation, I think the Padres, we can say,

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Speaker 1: you know, irrelevant, because I don't think I think it

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Speaker 2: to know the source, right. Will Smith doesn't say anything. Ever,

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Speaker 3: You know, It's not as.

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Speaker 2: If Jerks and Profar was mister irrelevant the last pick

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Speaker 2: he was saying, like, why is Jerks and Profar making

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Speaker 3: We actually have the sound if you want to take

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Speaker 4: Finally, you had the conversation yesterday at home Plate with

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Speaker 4: How did that impact your mindset entering this game? And

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Speaker 1: The day after? Oh, if it feels good.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not a media talker, you know, like

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Speaker 1: Just that's say it. I'm not gonna say anything in

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Speaker 4: Okay me, fair enough, Jerks, and congratulations on the win,

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Speaker 4: and thanks so much for the time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you again.

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Speaker 2: He takes a hiro and I'm fine with that. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, beyond all of this, Clint, the Dodgers did.

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Speaker 3: Not have a good series. They didn't have a good weekend.

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Speaker 2: You can talk about this until we're blue in the face,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. If we're looking at the totality of this series,

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Speaker 3: Does that concern you?

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Speaker 2: Elgapidan said the sky is falling, Dodgers lost, No, but

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Speaker 3: That's unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're talking extra innings, I'm not a fan

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Speaker 2: I hate the fact that they do it in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: I don't like three and a half four hour games.

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Speaker 2: I've been concerned about the depth of the Dodger starting

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Speaker 2: So they they've got to figure this out though, because

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Speaker 2: when they do get to the postseason, it's gonna come

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Speaker 2: down to pitching in defense, as it always does, and

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Speaker 2: it very well could come down to bullpens.

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Speaker 3: And this is not the bullpen to get it done.

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Speaker 1: No, there's a couple of good pieces in there. You

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Speaker 1: really like Evan Phillips in there. Just to throw it

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Speaker 1: out there. I know this is stepping back for a second,

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Speaker 1: but I loved this super chat from ib Stroke and

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Speaker 1: he says, I really like CT three in that situation.

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Speaker 1: That's a quote from Dave Roberts there. You could throw

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Speaker 1: that in. I really like Evan Phillips in that situation.

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Speaker 1: I really like Ryan Brazier in that situation. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Brazier not the same guy. I think the clock

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Speaker 1: might have struck midnight on Ryan Brazier. It's giving up

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Speaker 1: all five inhroded runners. They've all scored. That's a problem.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the bullpens are one of those things that

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Speaker 1: are just it's a constant. It's a constant process. Like

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Speaker 1: Andrew Friedman said, it keeps him up at night because

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Speaker 1: you're trying to find every little way to fix the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: The numbers have not been good. It is a twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty first worst bullpen in baseball at this point in

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Speaker 1: the season. We saw this last year. They found a

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Speaker 1: way to piecemeal something together. They have some options. If

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Speaker 1: you do see Kyle Hurt coming up at some point.

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Speaker 1: There's land and neck down at Triple A. They have

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Speaker 1: a few pieces. They're gonna ride this out for now,

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Speaker 1: because again it is early. This is still a team

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Speaker 1: that is in first place in the National League West.

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Speaker 1: But we need things to complain about, and it is

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Speaker 1: something that's concerning when you don't want to see them

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Speaker 1: get bounced in the first round. Again, it's not.

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Speaker 3: Anything to complain about. It's a legitimate concern.

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Speaker 2: Bottom of lineup can be fixed internally, But not so

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Speaker 2: sure about the bullpen situation.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I don't know that there's.

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Speaker 2: Anybody in the Dodgers farm system that's going to come

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Speaker 2: in and be able to make that much of a difference.

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Speaker 3: The big pieces are the ones that are hurt. That's

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Speaker 3: the problem.

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Speaker 2: Hoasea he Menaz says. Roberts pulled rich Hill after four

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Speaker 2: innings with seven k's in the World Series.

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Speaker 3: Haven't trusted him since then. All right, Hose, you gotta

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Speaker 3: let that go. You gotta let that go.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the last licks and

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Speaker 2: I we can't not have a Dodger's territory, Clint without

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Speaker 2: talking about the late great Jackie Robinson. Today is April fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: of course, seventy seven years ago today, April fifteenth, nineteen

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Speaker 2: forty seven, Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in Major

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Speaker 2: League baseball. Of course, branch Ricky signed him. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't know that branch Ricky also signed Roberto

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Speaker 2: Clemente too. So branch Ricky signing Jackie Robinson to a

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Speaker 2: major league deal. And he has made such an unbelievable impact,

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Speaker 2: not only on Major League Baseball and not only on

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Speaker 2: the lives of African Americans. But I could very well

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Speaker 2: say that if it wasn't for Jackie's struggles and his sacrifices,

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Speaker 2: I very well would not be sitting here right now.

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Speaker 2: So when you think of Jackie Robinson, what do you

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Speaker 2: think of?

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Speaker 1: I think of a very very patient man, of a

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Speaker 1: very very good man, a sweet man who endured just

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Speaker 1: absolute hell to pave the way for so many, just

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Speaker 1: any sort of people of color in baseball. So the

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Speaker 1: first word I think of there, that man is a hero.

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Speaker 1: And properly I feel enshrined by major League Baseball. You

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Speaker 1: got statue, a great statue at Dodger Stadium, have a

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Speaker 1: replica of it over here, by the way, make sure

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Speaker 1: to move down in honor of Jackie Robinson day. One

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Speaker 1: thing I do love that we saw drop today is

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Speaker 1: your former colleague, mister ORL. Hirscheizer, making sure that Jackie,

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Speaker 1: along with Roy Campanella and some others are forever enshrined

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Speaker 1: in the Negro League Museum after purchasing what was it,

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Speaker 1: a lot of I think ten paintings or.

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Speaker 2: Ten Well, this is a really cool story. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: bringing this up. This is awesome, so oral bulldog Herscheizer.

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Speaker 2: He celebrated the purchase of ten Dodger art pieces of

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Speaker 2: world renowned artist Dave Hobricht, including this masterpiece right here,

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Speaker 2: which is this is a very famous piece. This is

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Speaker 2: called Grace featuring Jackie Robinson of course, around a dinner

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Speaker 2: table with former Dodger greats Roy Campanella and Don Nukeam

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Speaker 2: and social nights activist, social rights activist rather Martin Luther

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Speaker 2: King Junior. This is the painting that's going to be

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Speaker 2: staying at the Negro Leagues Museum in Kansas City. And

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Speaker 2: Bob Kendrick, who is the president of the negro Leagues Museum,

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Speaker 2: was so excited that the it was sold to Oral obviously,

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Speaker 2: who is a great Dodger in his.

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Speaker 3: Own right, but it's in the right hands.

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Speaker 2: And having Grace at the negro Leagues Museum is so

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Speaker 2: apropos to celebrate such.

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Speaker 3: A poignant painting and it's just awesome.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations to Oral for being able to purchase those

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Speaker 2: ten Dodgers art pieces, but also for the museum for

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Speaker 2: being able to have that specific piece and to be

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Speaker 2: able to display it so other people can go to

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City negro Leagues Museum if which if you

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Speaker 2: have not been there, I highly recommend it. It's a tremendous,

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Speaker 2: tremendous place, so they can go and enjoy it too.

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't just about of course, jack I mean don.

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Speaker 2: Nucomb had conversations with Martin Luther King Junior, and there

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Speaker 2: was so many people that were trying to make the

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Speaker 2: world a better place for African Americans and people of color.

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Speaker 2: And what Jackie has done not only for the sport,

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Speaker 2: but for America and civil rights across the nation is

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Speaker 2: really incredible. So it's hard to believe it's been seventy

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Speaker 2: seven years ago, but his beautiful widow, Rachel Robinson, is

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Speaker 2: one hundred and one years old. Today, she's going to

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Speaker 2: be a city field. They are honoring her there and

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Speaker 2: his son David is throwing out the first pitch before

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Speaker 2: the met game today. So just what a legend and

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Speaker 2: what a force.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I always love when you see Martin

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Speaker 1: Luther King's quote about like I could not have done

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Speaker 1: this without somebody. Obviously I'm butchering the quote, but I

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Speaker 1: could not have done this without somebody like Jackie Robinson.

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Speaker 1: He was the real kind of spearhead to the social

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Speaker 1: rights movement to civil rights movement, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: think everybody need to get a little bit better again

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Speaker 1: at some point in time. But thankfully we had a

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Speaker 1: good start there with Jackie Robinson and Happy Jackie Robinson

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Speaker 1: Day to everybody.

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Speaker 2: I had a conversation one time with Magic Johnson, who

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Speaker 2: obviously is one of the owners of the Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Dodgers and had a you know, Hall of Fame career

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Speaker 2: with the member of the Lakers, and we were just

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Speaker 2: talking about Jackie's impact and he said, you know, if

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Speaker 2: it wasn't for Jackie, I wouldn't be here. I said,

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Speaker 2: if it wasn't for Jackie, I wouldn't be here. So

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Speaker 2: it's not just males, it's not just African Americans. It's

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Speaker 2: so many different people of color and genders, and and

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Speaker 2: just the opening of so many doors for people that

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Speaker 2: are here because of the sacrifices that Jackie Robinson made.

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Speaker 2: And I remember there was a quote again I'm paraphrasing,

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Speaker 2: and I certainly don't want to botch it up, but

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Speaker 2: you know, branch Rickey, who signed Jackie, told him, I

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Speaker 2: don't you know, I want you to turn away when

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Speaker 2: it's not that I want you to stick up to

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Speaker 2: these people.

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Speaker 3: I want you to like basically not let them bother you.

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Speaker 3: And that's very difficult to do.

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Speaker 2: Just you know, think about the personalities that that you

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Speaker 2: and I have and someone is in our face and

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Speaker 2: being mean to us and saying racist things to us.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that I could look away like

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Speaker 2: Jackie did. I don't know that I could not retaliate

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Speaker 2: and fight back. And you know, to have the strength

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Speaker 2: that he had to see the bigger picture of how

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Speaker 2: it wasn't just about him, how he was representing so

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Speaker 2: many other people.

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Speaker 3: It is really incredibly special.

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Speaker 2: So thank you Jackie for everything, And you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: honored to have been with an organization that is the

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Speaker 2: one that signed Jackie.

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Speaker 1: I agree, well, I got I agree.

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Speaker 2: All right, what's coming up on on your show All

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Speaker 2: Dodgers tonight? You do this all the time, so tell

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Speaker 2: our listeners and our viewers what they can expect from you.

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Speaker 1: Uh today, we are back. I will be live at

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Speaker 1: six pm. It's Monday over Reactions. We got a we

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Speaker 1: got a text line, We've got a call in line.

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Speaker 1: So I also threw out a feeler on Twitter to

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Speaker 1: get some uh some uh, you know, fun interactions from

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Speaker 1: pissed off people, and people always are pissed off when

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers lose two of three to the San Diego Padres,

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Speaker 1: So tube in for that one. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good time. Plus, we'll talk more. I'll dive in more

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Speaker 1: to the pitching situation, and I'm going to talk about

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Speaker 1: Andy pie Has and when he could come up and

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Speaker 1: maybe be the savior for the team. So again, six

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Speaker 1: pm Pacific, All Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: N Yeah, another home run for pie Has. I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's the savior. I think that's a little bit

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Speaker 3: of an.

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Speaker 2: Overstep talk about Monday over reaction, Clint.

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Speaker 3: But he could Oh Okay, okay, he could be a

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Speaker 3: nice boost to the bottom of that lineup.

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