1 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: Good evening, America, and welcome to this Just the News 2 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Real America's Voice special brought to you by the Association 3 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: of Mature American Citizens are. 4 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Better known as AMAC. 5 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Tonight, we're going to be discussing how peace through strength 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: has changed the world in just four short weeks of 7 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: the Trump presidency. After four years of destabilization, growing violence, 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: and uncertainty among both American allies and adversaries, Donald Trump 9 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: has brought a clarity to foreign policy and America's security priorities. 10 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: The message is clear, America. 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: Won't be bullied, it won't tolerate aggression or attacks on 12 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: freedom or our citizens, and it will act first and 13 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: foremost with the interests of Americans first. That clarity, backed 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: by early the actions, has already triggered a realignment across 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: the globe. 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: Mexico and Canada. 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: While they quickly moved to fortify security at the southern 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: and northern borders to avoid facing American teriffs, Hamas and 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: Israel will they reached receise fire even before President Trump 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: took office, because his envoy went to the region and 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: did what the Biden administration could strike a deal. China 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: has begun negotiations on reducing the chemicals that flow from 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: its country as precursors to the fentanyl poison produced by 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: Mexican drug artels, and. 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: The American relationship with Russia. 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: While last week it was rebooted with a historic meeting 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia, this week now special teams are being 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: created to start the process of seeking a peace deal 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: in the Ukraine War. 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: These things don't happen in a vacuum. 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: They happened when the lens of peace through strength is 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: applied to US foreign policy. The Biden administration had a 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: different compass. It believed peace could be achieved through appeasement 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: in payments. America's enemies did not comply. They became more aggressive, 35 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: as the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Iranian proxies 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: of Hamas the Hoodies and Hesbola showed. Today, the carridenstick 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: cl of the Trump administration's foreign policy has pushed adversaries 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: back into a corner and challenged allies to step up 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: to this moment in history and the necessity to provide 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: greater strength and greater will. Tonight, we're going to be 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: exploring how this dynamic began and where it goes. We've 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: got an all star lineup of guests to take us 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: through this conversation. But first, I've got an amazing co 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: host to join me on this journey throughout the night. 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: She's the CEO of AMAC and my very good friend, 46 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: Rebecca Weber. 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: Rebecca, welcome, Oh John, it's great to be with you today. You, 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: under President Donald Trump, the United States really did redefine 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: its role on the global stage, not through endless wars 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: or weak diplomacy, but through unwavering strength and bold leadership. 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: And so we see how is peace through strength strategy 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: really does ensure that our enemies think twice, that our 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: allies step up, and that American interests come first, just 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: as the American people mandated. So I'm thrilled to be 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: here with you today to really focus on the issues 56 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: and how Donald Trump is really proving that a strong 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: America is a safer America. 58 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. 59 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: And it's that philosophy, a piece of strength that binds 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: all the patriots together who are part of the great 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: AMAC nation as well. So excited to have this conversation 62 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: all right, joining us now a man who served his 63 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: country on the front lines of war and today serves 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: it in Capitol Hill. He's retired US Marine Corp Lieutenant 65 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: General and Congressman from the great state of Michigan. Jack Bergman, Congressman. 66 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Good to have you on the show, sir, Hey, great 67 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: to be with you all. We love your perspective because 68 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: you saw it on the front lines of the military, 69 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: and then you brought that wisdom into Congress. I think 70 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Congress is getting a great understanding that the last four 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: years were a pretty weak time for America and that 72 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: this reassertion of American interest in strength is starting to 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: change the world. 74 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: What are you seeing? What are your colleagues telling. 75 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: You, Well, there are two perspectives, those who have had 76 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: their eyes opened up to not only the strengths that 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: President Trump brought in, but it is it's even more 78 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: magnified by the weaknesses that became evident in the last 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: four years of the Biden administration. And not to pick on, 80 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 4: you know, former presidents or whatever, but you know, Ronald 81 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: Reagan is the classic quotable peace through strength, and we 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: as the United States did not exhibit, did not show, 83 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: did not embody strength of will, strength of character, strength 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: of purpose, strength of Michigan. 85 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 5: Under the Biden administration, in no way, shape or form. 86 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 4: So here we are now with President Trump back in 87 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 4: and there is definitely the twenty first century version, I 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: believe of the peace through strength that the Trump administration 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: is already showing on the world stage amazing. 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: Congressman Zelensky seems to be pushed back on Trump's diplomatic approach. 91 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: How should America respond to Ukraine's reluctance to pursue peace, 92 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: especially considering the billions of dollars in aid that we 93 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: have sent. Should there be consequences? 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: Well, there's there's consequences for everything that's and if you think, 95 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: if anyone thinks it's just it's just like a little 96 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: child who if they think that they can pull the 97 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 4: wool over their parents' eyes, or their teacher's eyes, or 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 4: their pastor's eyes, they're going to try. And it's up 99 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 4: to those influencers, those leaders, the parents, let's say, in 100 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: the case of the family unit, to say, you know what, 101 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: you cross the line, stop that, because this is not 102 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 4: how this family, you know, acts or reacts. And I 103 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: think in some cases what we uh most of us 104 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: who voted for aid to Ukraine over the past, you know, 105 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: several years we asked for one thing, and that was 106 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: accountability for every dollar that was sent there, how it 107 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 4: was used, and what was the endgame? And did Ukraine 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: need more or less? But were they carrying out their 109 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 4: end of the bargain? And that I think what we're 110 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: seeing now, in fact, I know it is there's an 111 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: uncomfortability with you know, Ukraine and Zelensky to be able 112 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: to continue to articulate their case and why the United 113 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: States needs needs to be their their their bestie, I 114 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: guess to use modern terms. And President Trump is going 115 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 4: to hold everybody accountable, and that's a good thing. That's 116 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: why we voted for him. He holds himself accountable. Why 117 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: wouldn't we hold everybody else, including our allies, including entities 118 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: who have been the benefit of our you know, beneficiary 119 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 4: of our aid, whether it be dollars or you know, 120 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: bullets and bombs and intelligence and whatever else that happens 121 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: to be. 122 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: Good. 123 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: That's right, it's exactly with the American people mandated. 124 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 6: Now. 125 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: The Pentagon has an eight hundred and fifty billion dollar 126 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: budget but has never passed an audit. So Secretary Hegseth 127 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: has called for a full accounting of military spending shouldn't 128 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: the American people demand to know where all this money 129 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: is going. 130 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: Real short answer is yes, And the Pentagon has never 131 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: passed an audit. But there is one service who has 132 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: passed an audit in the last few years, and that's. 133 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 5: The United States Marine Corps. And for two reasons. 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: Number one, we hold ourselves accountable and number two, we 135 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: are usually the least resource of all the services. Every 136 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: dollar in the Department the Navy gets, we the Marine 137 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: Corps have to fight with the Department of the Navy 138 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: because we're under there, you know there if you will 139 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: their enterprise and if the if the rest of the 140 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: Pentagon needs an example on how to pass an audit, 141 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: call up, call up their friends down on E Ring 142 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: in the Marine Corps and say, hey. 143 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 5: How did you guys do it? And I can give 144 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: you after in verse back. 145 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: From the probably the two thousand and four, so we're 146 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: talking twenty years ago timeframe of doing a simple audit 147 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: at the Department of Defense wide at then Secretary Rumsfell's request, 148 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: and the subject was simple, tell me where all your 149 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: activated guardsmen and reservists are, because after nine to eleven 150 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: we activated thousands, tens of thousands of reservists and guardsmen 151 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 4: to go to Iraq, to go to Afghanistan to fight. 152 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 5: And at the time, even then. 153 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: Twenty years ago, the Marine Corps was the only one 154 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 4: who could say here's where they all are, here's how 155 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: long they've been there, and. 156 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 5: The other services couldn't. 157 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: So the Defense Department has some catching up to do, 158 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: but it's more the bureaucracy, not necessarily the uniform service 159 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: members in there. 160 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 5: But there's been a. 161 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: Kind of a you know, what's the three card monte game, 162 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 4: the shells light a handgame. 163 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 5: There's been some of that going on in the Pentagon 164 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: for decades. 165 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: No doubt about it. 166 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: You put a big smile on my face, Congressman, because 167 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: I had an uncle and he would come to Christmas 168 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: parties and said, I know how to fix Washington. 169 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: Just send a few more marines there. We'll get the 170 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: job done. 171 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: And just is thinking of that very fondly when you 172 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: said that, I want to turn to another theater, and 173 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: that is a theater with China. We have lots of 174 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: challenges with China. Their shipbuilding is surpassing ours, their AI 175 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: is starting to catch up. Their long range missiles and 176 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: the hypersonic missiles are pretty strong. What is the way 177 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: to rebalance that relationship quickly? 178 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: Well, very quickly. China is not an innovator. 179 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 4: We know that they are masters of intellectual property theft 180 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: and have been forever. That's part of their business model. 181 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: They will put the money into spying and stealing as 182 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 4: opposed to innovating. 183 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 5: Like the United States, you know where it puts its money. 184 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 4: So the first best step in dealing with China is 185 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: to make sure going back to the piece through strength, 186 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: but to show China We're not going to let you 187 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: steal any of our intellectual property because we spent time 188 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 4: and money innovating it. 189 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 5: We're not going to. 190 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: Give it to you. 191 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 5: We will talk with you, but we're going to stop 192 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 5: the stealing. 193 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,239 Speaker 2: Great point, great message. 194 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: Israel's iron dome missile defense system has been increasingly effective 195 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: in stopping incoming threats. Is it realistic to build an 196 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: iron dome for America? And if so, what will it 197 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: take to really make that the reality? 198 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: Well, an iron dome in America will look different than 199 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: an iron domem in Israel because just of the sheer 200 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 4: geographic size, but to use the technologies and the processes 201 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: for evaluating speed of missiles trajectory, all of those things. 202 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: It is possible and doable, especially with the use of 203 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: advanced artificial intelligence with basically quantum data, you know, computing, 204 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: to create an iron Dome like capability in our country. 205 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty amazing. 206 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: And President Trump seems to be moving in that direction 207 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: again quickly, kind of fulfilling a dream that maybe started 208 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: with Ronald Reagan. So you mentioned something that's important in 209 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: the AI and how it's going to change warfare. Part 210 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: of that AI battle is going to be one on 211 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: a different field, which is the energy field. Because these 212 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: new supercomputers need so much energy. How important is Donald 213 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: Trump's energy policy to his national security policy? 214 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: Well, they're tied hand in hand. And when you think 215 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: about people who if they really, really, really are concerned 216 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: about energy, clean energy going forward, if we as a 217 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: country don't return to the idea of the small modular 218 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: nuclear reactors not only for the creation the generation of 219 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: the energy, but also for the protection of the grid 220 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: in a small modulized think of a honeycomb in a 221 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 4: different form. But that is the future of energy here 222 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 4: in America, and I believe it is the future of 223 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: energy literally in most parts of the world. 224 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 5: To keep it. 225 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: Capable of producing the electricity we need to power the 226 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: computers we have and are going to have, because you 227 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: have to balance for the forward end of the energy need, 228 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: not just what are we using today, because the math 229 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: doesn't match on the equation generation plus you know, transmission 230 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: plus distribution does not equal need if you will, or 231 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: requirement and that just that simple math. 232 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, great point, Great point. 233 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: With Donald Trump now in office for only just a 234 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: handful of weeks, we're really seeing how quickly he's been 235 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: able to mobilize and demonstrate peace through strength. How much 236 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: did Joe Biden's chaotic foreign policy and his disastrous withdrawal 237 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: from Afghanistan weaken Americans standing on the world stage, and 238 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: how quickly can we reverse the perception of US strength. 239 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: Well, when you think about how did the Biden administration 240 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: start with its you know, the debacle withdrawing from Afghanistan, So. 241 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: That set the tone right away. 242 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: Is the whole any deeper that we're in today. 243 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: Probably not greatly deeper. 244 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: It's just that some of the relationships over time internationally 245 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 4: have suffered a little bit. But I tell you, I 246 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 4: spent a lot of time speaking with especially our NATO 247 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 4: partners and our partners over in the Endo Pacific, whether 248 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: it be the Philippines, Taiwan, whoever it happens to be. 249 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 5: But they knew, they knew. 250 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: We as an American society are probably the least patient 251 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: of any society. But folks around the world who are 252 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: more patient than we are know that they didn't get. 253 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 5: Too far back behind with Biden. 254 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: It didn't help them, but it's not an insurmountable gap. 255 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: We just have to apply the pressure now to gu 256 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: just put the foot on the accelerator, which President Trump 257 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: has done in so many different ways. And our partners 258 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: are the good ones, are are ready to you know, 259 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: ride right along with us. 260 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think both adversary and ally are beginning to 261 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: feel a big difference in America since Donald Trump came 262 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: in Congressman, it is such an honor to have you 263 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: on your service to your country, rising to the rank 264 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: of general they coming back and serving in Congress a 265 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: rear crowd that you're in great thank you for your 266 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: service and your time today. All right, folks, we've got 267 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: a lot more ahead of us in the next half hour, 268 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: our next hour, excuse me, great conversations ahead. But first 269 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to give you a homework assignment. It's an 270 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: important one. Go to AMAC dot us slash no noise. 271 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: That's AMAC dot us slash no noise. You have a 272 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: very special offer this month. You can get a membership 273 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: like me for forty seven percent off. 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I'm still 283 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: joined by AMAX CEO Rebecca Weber as my co host 284 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: for tonight, and it's time to get to our second 285 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: guests at the eating joining us. Now retired Army colonel, 286 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: he's also a senior columnist at town Hall and author 287 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: of the book The Attack. 288 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: Kurt Schlichter Kirk, Good to have you. 289 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 6: Back, Hey, great to be here. Always love doing the 290 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 6: AMAC thing. 291 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: We love doing it as well. We learned so much 292 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: we come out a lot smarter. 293 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: And I think today we are looking at so much 294 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: of what's going on with Donald Trump and saying, Wow, 295 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: the world is changing before four eyes, and at a 296 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: speed we've never seen before. 297 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: There's a velocity to the change. 298 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: But all of it on the foreign policy and security 299 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: side seems to come from the position that America has 300 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: to deal from a position of strength, no more appeasement. 301 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: What have you seen in your early impressions from the 302 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: Trump's security policy. 303 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 6: I think that the United States is operating pretty much 304 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 6: as I was trained to operate in the United States Army. 305 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 6: Move fast, it art, and go for the enemy's weaknesses. 306 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 6: It is refreshing to see that there is no backing down, 307 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 6: there is no hesitation. Trump has foreign policy and military 308 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 6: objectives in mind, and he is moving to seize them, 309 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 6: everything from Ukraine to revitalizing NATO. I'm interested in seeing 310 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 6: what happens with the engagement towards China, but I have 311 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 6: a feeling that we're going to strengthen our Pacific firepower 312 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 6: as well. You know, I'm looking across the board at 313 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 6: success after success, and I wrote about in town Hall 314 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 6: recently where I said I'm now recommending that people join 315 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 6: the military again. For a long time I wasn't maybe sad, 316 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 6: and under a leadership of Pete Heggsat who's exactly the 317 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 6: type of Secretary of Defense we need for this moment, 318 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 6: we are getting back into a warrior culture. My analysis 319 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 6: has always been that the big problem with the American military, 320 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 6: the number one problem when it has to be stopped first, 321 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 6: is not procurement. It's not getting a strategy together. We 322 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 6: haven't had one in a long time. It is bringing 323 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 6: back a warrior culture. So they bring in a field 324 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 6: grade infantry officer with a combat infantry badge, the kind 325 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 6: of guy who goes out there and gets filmed running 326 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 6: at O dark thirty on some German concern. That is 327 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 6: exactly the energy we need to cure our recruiting crisis 328 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 6: and let the field know, hey, this is an organization 329 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 6: dedicated to war. 330 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: Thank you, k Now. Secretary Pete Heechseth recently argued that 331 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: Ukraine should never join NATO and that Europe must take 332 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: primary responsibility for Ukraine's security. Do you agree with this 333 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: stance or do you believe that the US should continue 334 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 3: leading the Western alliance in handling the conflict. 335 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 6: No, I think Pete text that's exactly right. And let 336 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 6: me give you a little background. I was deployed with 337 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 6: a unit that included Ukrainian soldiers. I went to Ukraine 338 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 6: and trained them. Ukraine was horribly wronged and has every 339 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 6: right to fight back against the Russians, and I would 340 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 6: hope it is victorious. That being said, I'm not Ukrainian, 341 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 6: I'm American, so American interests are paramount to me. None 342 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 6: of this is prakt on hostility towards Ukrainians. It's on 343 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 6: service to the United States interests. The United States needs 344 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 6: to face down China. That needs to be our primary 345 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 6: of a responsibility. The Europeans, who outnumber US considerably, have 346 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 6: not been doing their fair share for decades and decades. 347 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 6: I know. I served in NATO in the eighties, I 348 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 6: served in NATO in the two thousands. They have not 349 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 6: been pulling their weight. They need to take primary responsibility 350 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: the war in Ukraine. It is an America's interest that 351 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 6: the war in Ukraine ends. The war in Ukraine is 352 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 6: not going to end with the Russians being driven out 353 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 6: of every ent of Ukraine. I'm sorry, I wish it 354 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 6: could be that would be a just result. But we're 355 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 6: not here for justice. We're here for American interests, and 356 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 6: this war ending is America. 357 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good points. Zelensky is now admitting that America 358 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 3: won't be writing blank checks forever, and meanwhile General Kellogg 359 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: is saying that Europe won't be at the table for 360 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: peace talks. Is it time? I guess you're saying for 361 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: America to cut the cord and let Europe deal with 362 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: this mess. 363 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 6: I think Europe needs to take a leadership role, but 364 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 6: they haven't done that, so we're going to have to 365 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 6: do what we have to do. The thing about Donald 366 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 6: Trump and the reason he's driving preeople crazy is he 367 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 6: is unrepentably and unapologetically pursuing American interests, not the amorphous 368 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 6: interest of some bizarre global elite. You know it is. 369 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 6: I've been seeing a lot lately. Well. Trump is betraying 370 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 6: the Ukrainians. Trump is a traitor to the free world. 371 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 6: I actually see people write that you can't betray something 372 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 6: unless you have an obligation to it. We are not 373 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 6: in a treaty alliance with Ukraine, nor should we be, 374 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 6: because it's right on the edge of Russia, and we 375 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 6: have no American interest in being a trip wire or 376 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 6: having it as a tripwire that brings us into war. 377 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 6: An interest in America can only be created where we 378 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 6: have an alliance. An alliance can only be created when 379 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 6: the Senate ratifies a treaty. Okay, you don't get to 380 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 6: say we're allies because a bunch of us who went 381 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: to Georgetown Foreign Policy School think it's a great idea. 382 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 6: If you're going to commit American blood, if you're going 383 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 6: to commit American treasure, we need our Senate to Senate 384 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 6: to speak on it and ratify it. And again, I 385 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 6: was part of NATO. I have a NATO medal. NATO 386 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 6: has an important role, but that role has changed over 387 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 6: the last eighty years. And you don't just create obligations 388 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 6: on a whim. It has to be done right where 389 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 6: the American people's voice is heard. And the American people 390 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 6: voted for Donald Trump. He said he was going to 391 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 6: end this war. They elected him. He's doing what he 392 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 6: said he would do. I don't understand. You may disagree 393 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 6: with his policy, but this fake hysteria about Donald Trump 394 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 6: loves putin. Donald Trump loves America, and that's what. 395 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: Offends great point, Kurt, I want to shift theaters for 396 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: a second and talk a little bit about China and 397 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: just the news. The other day, we had this extraordinary 398 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: story based on research from the Household Land Security Committee 399 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: sixty plus espionage efforts. 400 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: Under Joe Biden. 401 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Basically, KA was running all over America and infiltrating corporate secrets, 402 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: Pentagon secrets, putting spy balloons. Of course, as we painfully 403 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: remember them. What is the early answer from the Trump administration? 404 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: Obviously tariffs and got their attention on fentanyl. Where do 405 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: you think the next step goes and down the road. 406 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Do you see a PATO to match NATO, a Pacific 407 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: Alliance forming? 408 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 6: Look, I think we definitely need that in the Pacific. 409 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 6: I think when countries like Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, 410 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 6: Vietnam get scared enough, they're going to look to America. Unfortunately, 411 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 6: America has allowed its shipbuilding and other military industrial based 412 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 6: facilities to decay. China can build what three hundred and 413 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 6: fifty times as many boats as we can. It's crazy 414 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 6: there Navy now out numbers ares. The quality isn't the same, 415 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 6: the experience level isn't the same, but you know, you know, 416 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 6: sometimes you just want to have more stuff, and that's 417 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 6: an advance. The fact is China is serious about the 418 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 6: subjectives it intends to take Taiwan. Whether you believe that's 419 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 6: right or wrong doesn't really matter. China needs to be 420 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 6: deterred from doing that. We can only deter them with 421 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 6: a show of strength. As for the spies here in America, 422 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 6: holy cow, we've had the FBI out chasing praying grandmas 423 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 6: at abortion clinks and people taking selfies in the rotunda. 424 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 6: What a waste of resources. Look. I live in the 425 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 6: South Bay of Los Angeles, down in Redondo Beach and 426 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 6: El Segundo is the heart of America's aerospace industry. You 427 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 6: mentioned sixty examples of the Chinese spies. There are probably 428 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 6: sixty examples on every block down there. When we start 429 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: taking Chinese espionas seriously, I know we're actually taking China seriously. 430 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: Great point, very good point. 431 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: You know, AMAC members are thrilled to see that President 432 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: Trump is really addressing the radical left that turned our 433 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: military into a testing ground for woke ideology. I mean 434 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 3: they had pronoun training, drag shows on bases, prioritizing DEI 435 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: over combat readiness. How much damage. Do you think that 436 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 3: that is really done over the last handful of years 437 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: and can it be reversed? 438 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 6: It's done enormous damage and it is being reversed. Look, 439 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 6: there's really two kinds of There are several kinds of leaders, 440 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 6: and Secretary of Defense needs to be a leader. There 441 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 6: are the very technical guys, the ones who look at force, 442 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 6: structure and building and such. On the good side, you 443 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 6: have a guy like Rumsfeld, who I think was an 444 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 6: underrated Secretary of Defense, and you have guys like Robert 445 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: Mattnamara who was absolutely awful. We need a different kind 446 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 6: of guy. We need a leader. We need a guy 447 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 6: who's out there showing the troops. Hey, you count I'm 448 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 6: bringing back military culture. That's what Pete Eggs at is 449 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 6: Pete Eggs as the guy who can get out there 450 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 6: and beat most captains and lieutenants in a push up contest. 451 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 6: And that means something to the guys who've got pick 452 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 6: up a rifle and run to the top of the hill, 453 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 6: kill everybody at the top of the hill, and wait 454 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 6: to be told what hill to go to next to take. 455 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 6: That's what we need today. We need a hardcore leader 456 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 6: who's going to inspire and show Americans that our military 457 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 6: is back to be in a military. Look, I'm very 458 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 6: excited to see the current crop of army ads. Have 459 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 6: you guys seen those instead of having you know, Heather's 460 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 6: got two mommies and now she's you know, a supply sergeant. 461 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 6: You got. This is my squad. I'm Corporal Smith, I 462 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 6: carry the M two forty machine gun. I'm Corporal Garcia. 463 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 6: You know, I'm the grenadier and we're watch us attack 464 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 6: this building with all the explosions and stuff. That's what 465 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 6: we need. We need a hard charger right now to 466 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 6: reorient the military back to what it's about, which is 467 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 6: having the capability to stack enemy bodies if they cross us. 468 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so well said Kurt. You do such great thinking. 469 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: Your thought leadership in this space is so important, and 470 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: I think for the first time in a few years, 471 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: all those great ideas you've been righting about they're going 472 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: to get implemented on this watch. 473 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: Great honor to have you on the show today. 474 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 6: Always always love joining you and love being with a Yeah. 475 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: Absolutely great, great gat, great conversation. 476 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: All right, folks, don't go anywhere, because after the break, 477 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: we'll have another retired Kernel on this time from the 478 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Air Force. And before we go to break, I want 479 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: you to go to AMAC dot us slash no Noise 480 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: right now, AMAC dot us slash no noise because for 481 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 1: a limited time you can get forty seven percent off 482 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: of AMAC membership to celebrate President Trump's becoming America's forty 483 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: seven president. That's AMAC that US no Noise to get 484 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: forty seven percent. 485 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: Go do that right now. We'll be right back after 486 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: these messages. 487 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back in America to this special edition of Justin 488 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: Who's No Noise? In partnership with AMAC, the Association of 489 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 1: Mature American Citizens AMAX CEO Rebecca Weber and I are 490 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: bringing you this deep dive into the Trump administration's military 491 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: and foreign policy and a return to PC You Stink 492 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: with the novel Idea joining us now to talk more 493 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: about that. He's a thirty two year United States Air 494 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Force combat vendor and retired Colonel Rob Manus. 495 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: Rob, great to have you back on the show. 496 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 7: Thanks for having me back, John. 497 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: I love the writing you do, the thought leadership you 498 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: apply every day. There is a lot going on, and 499 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: sometimes I don't think we look close enough to our 500 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: nearest continent, Latin America a lot of concerns with China 501 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: rumbling around that continent and trying to gain influence in 502 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: our backyard. Tell us where Trump is starting to make 503 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: progress on that. 504 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 7: You know, I just took a really deep look at 505 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 7: Panama over the last couple of weeks and everything, and 506 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 7: you know, the Chinese Communist Party has a company at 507 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 7: each into the Panama Canal, and the President has really 508 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 7: taken the initiative and put the Panamanian leadership on notice, 509 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 7: and they've responded appropriately that the Belton Road initiative from 510 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 7: the Chinese Communist Party is out, and support and effort 511 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 7: from the United States of America and controlling from the 512 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 7: United States of America is now in. So that's a 513 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 7: key choke point, actually, the key choke point for the 514 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 7: ability of the United States to project power not just 515 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 7: over in Europe but more importantly out into the Indo 516 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 7: Pacific region and take on the Chinese Communists. 517 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 518 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: Important. 519 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: And China just unveiled its new sixth generation fighter. Is 520 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: this a real threat to our air superiority or is 521 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: the CCP inflating its capabilities like they often. 522 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 7: Do well As your question implies, Rebecca, the sixth generation 523 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 7: Moniker on that platform is under very serious look. Most 524 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 7: of us that watched this and our professionals in combat 525 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 7: aviation have serious doubts on whether this is actually the 526 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 7: next generational fighter as opposed to what the United States 527 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 7: is currently doing with our next generation of long range 528 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 7: bombers and our next generation of fighters, where we are 529 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 7: actually getting them in the field. But the next step 530 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 7: is really the non sexy part, and the non sexy 531 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 7: part is we can't build enough things in this country 532 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 7: to be able to support ourselves if God forbid, the 533 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 7: Chinese decided to go to war with the United States 534 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 7: and fire off and spark. 535 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 8: A global war. 536 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 7: We can't build enough fast enough to replace the things 537 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 7: that we know we'll lose in a very short amount 538 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 7: of time. If you look at the last six or 539 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 7: seven war games over Taiwan between the United States and 540 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 7: the PRC, you'll see that within a couple of weeks 541 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 7: we're out of missiles, our aircraft are severely degraded, so 542 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 7: we don't have the capability to build enough of that. 543 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 7: And even more less sexy is infrastructure. We need to 544 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 7: build more air fields, we need to build more ports, 545 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 7: We need to have more mobile port capability to move 546 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 7: around the Pacific, and we need to build more sealif 547 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 7: merchant malarine ships in order to be able to control 548 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 7: the entire Pacific and deter China from ever going against 549 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 7: Taiwan kinetically. 550 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: Really good important point. I want to speak briefly about 551 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: your latest column where you discussed Senator Marco Rubio's move 552 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: to cut off US dollars that have been funding lawfare 553 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: in Latin America. How dangerous is it that our own 554 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: government was exporting the same tactics that the radical left 555 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: used against President Trump. 556 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 7: Well, interestingly enough, the USAID scandal that Elon Musk is 557 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 7: uncovered actually shows a lot of the tentacle that the 558 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 7: United States of America, the defenders of freedom, the beacon 559 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 7: on the hill for democracy, the democratic Republic of the 560 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 7: first kind known demand that's brought more people out of 561 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 7: poverty and saved more lives and created prosperity and defeated 562 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 7: tyranny all around the world. Is exporting legal tyranny into 563 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 7: countries that are supposed to be our friends and defeating 564 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 7: this is the worst part, defeating governments and candidates and 565 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 7: elections that are for freedom, and putting in place those 566 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 7: that are for tyranny and doing things like censorship and 567 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 7: taking out their political opposition through this lawfare and that 568 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 7: type of thing. That's a heck of a export item 569 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 7: to be on the record of the United States of America. 570 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 7: And I was proud to write that article. I'm glad 571 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 7: that Secretary of State Rubio is taking such a strong 572 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 7: stance gets this type of activity. And you know what, 573 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 7: thank god, Donald Trump won this election big enough this 574 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 7: last time, so the law fair is not having any 575 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 7: effect on him and on his supporters, and it's going 576 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 7: to generate a positive effect around the world to folks 577 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 7: that are running for office and that are in office 578 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 7: that believe in freedom and freedom of the individual as 579 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 7: opposed to charity. And we're starting to see that effect 580 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 7: already in places like Hungary, Poland. They're getting stronger where 581 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 7: countries like Germany and the United Kingdom which are anti 582 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 7: free speech obviously based on what you've seen in most 583 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 7: recent reporting on JD Vance's speech, and they're anti doing 584 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 7: their own defense. So that positive effect is very important, 585 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 7: and we hope to see leaders get elected in those 586 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 7: countries that will turn those countries back to freedom. 587 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think JD Vance's speech was a clarion call 588 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: to all Western world to get back on the case 589 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: of freedom. It was really remarkable speech. 590 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: Colonel. I want to turn to one of the things 591 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: I think could. 592 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: Revolutionize the military warfare fighting, and that is artificial intelligence. 593 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand how supercomputing and artificial 594 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: intelligence are going to change battle battlegrounds, but. 595 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: They are tell us where we are. 596 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: It seems like America is a little bit ahead of China, 597 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: but China's chopping at our bit. 598 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: Well. 599 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 7: The United States still leads in manufacturing and industrialization in 600 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 7: one area in the world today, and that is software 601 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 7: developments aka art the artificial intelligence effort that's being undertaken 602 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 7: right now, so we are still in the lead on that. 603 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 7: The concern is can it get out of control? Will 604 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 7: there be enough good policies in place to have adequate 605 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 7: guardrails so that the artificial intelligence is used for what 606 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 7: it's supposed to be, which is a tool to help 607 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 7: make better decisions that do things like saved lives and 608 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 7: those kind of things, especially in the military. You know, 609 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 7: so we've seen these drone swarm videos that are controlled 610 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 7: by a type of artificial intelligence, and if you can 611 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 7: see that on your television and open source media platforms. 612 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 7: Then in the dark spaces of research and development on 613 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 7: the military side, no matter what country you're talking about, 614 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 7: they are much further ahead than even that. And when 615 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 7: you combine what we've seen with something like the drone 616 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 7: swarm I just mentioned, and what's actually happening in combat 617 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 7: in the war in Ukraine and Russia, or between Israel 618 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 7: and Hamas and Gaza, and what they're doing with drone warfare, 619 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 7: you overlay the artificial intelligence piece on that. And it's 620 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 7: critically important that the United States not only is in 621 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 7: the lead, but continues to take being the lead and 622 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 7: increase that lead and get control of this so that 623 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 7: we can use it effectively to defend ourselves and help 624 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 7: our allies when called upon. 625 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: So important, it's so very important. 626 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, Colonel. We hear a lot about pentagon bloat 627 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: and wasteful spending in your experience, where do you think 628 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 3: the most waste in the mill is in the military 629 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 3: and what should be cut first to make sure that 630 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: resources go where they're actually needed. 631 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 7: Two places. First is the acquisition system. The most critical 632 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 7: place to get fixed in the Department of Defense is 633 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 7: the acquisition system. We can't field a tanker which is 634 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 7: a basic passenger aircraft with some special fittings and arts 635 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 7: put onto it, with some avionics that can integrate it 636 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 7: in with military forces in the combat zone installed in it. 637 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 7: It took us over twenty years to field the latest tanker, 638 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 7: the Case forty six. The F thirty five program is 639 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 7: the worst acquisition program that we have ever seen. And 640 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 7: I spent over thirty years in the military while the 641 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 7: F thirty five, or a big chunk of it was 642 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 7: being developed. It was way beyond its delivery date. It 643 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 7: doesn't meet the capability that was laid down in the 644 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 7: initial requirements. Even today it does not, and quite frankly, 645 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 7: about thirty five percent of them our mission fully mission capable. 646 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 7: That leaves sixty five percent of your aircraft out there 647 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 7: not mission capable, having to be worked on by maintenance, 648 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 7: which is lowman So the acquisition system has got to 649 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 7: be fixed. I would love to see Musk take a 650 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 7: really hard look at that with his brilliant men and 651 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 7: women that he is using with DOGE and come up 652 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 7: with a fix for that, because it's been talked about 653 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 7: by multiple administrations way beyond Ronald Reagan even back during 654 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 7: the Vietnam War days of how bad this system is. 655 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 7: And the worst part is and it delivers things late, 656 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 7: it delivers them, it doesn't meet requirements that we know 657 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 7: we have the technological capability to deliver. And then when 658 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 7: it does get out there, you can't keep it fixed 659 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 7: at an adequate rate in order to fight and win 660 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 7: America's wars against a place like China when they're called 661 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 7: upon to do that. So we've got to get that fixed. 662 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 7: The other place is the civilian personnel system. The personnel 663 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 7: system itself and the money we put into it, the 664 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 7: numbers of people we have in it are way overstated. 665 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: They're bloated. 666 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 7: It needs to be cut. I would love to see 667 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 7: a slash and burn operation from DOGE coming around that 668 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,479 Speaker 7: you start with those two things, then you can start 669 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 7: getting into the other things that build a system that 670 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 7: ensures the war fighting soldier, sailor airman, marine, and I 671 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 7: think the space guys are called guardians and coastguardsmen and 672 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 7: women are getting the things they need to do their 673 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 7: main mission, their only mission, which is to fight and 674 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 7: win America's wars and be lethal to any enemy that 675 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 7: dares raise its ugly head against the United States of 676 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 7: America or its allies. 677 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: Common sense, brilliance, Colonel, that's what we get every time 678 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: you come on the show. 679 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: Always enjoy having you on. Thanks for joining us today. 680 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 7: Thank you John, Thank you Rebecca. 681 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: What a great conversation. 682 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 1: A lot of the good ideas are elon Musk. Hopefully 683 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: he's watching and paying attention. All right, coming up after 684 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: the break, former SASANT Secretary of Stave Bobby Charles will 685 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: be here to discuss more about the Trump administration foreign 686 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: policy goals. And while we're in the break, it's a 687 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: perfect opportunity to head over to AMAC dot us lash 688 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: no noise and take advantage of that forty seven percent 689 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: off a MAC membership. Now you say forty seven percent off, 690 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: that's kind of odd, right, No, it isn't. It's in 691 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: celebration of America's. 692 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: Forty seven President Tomald Trump. All right, go check that out. 693 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these messages. Welcome back in America 694 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: to this just the News special report. We're returning to 695 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: peace through Strength. It's all brought to you by AMAC, 696 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: our friends of the Association of Mature American Citizens. So 697 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: let's bring back in AMAC. CEO Rebecca Whoever, as well 698 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: as our latest guest. He's a former Assistant Secretary of 699 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: State and now. 700 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: He's a national spokesman for AMAC. 701 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 1: He's our good friend, Bobby Charles, and also the author 702 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 1: one of my favorite books, Cherish America, Stories of Courage, 703 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: Character and Kindness. 704 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 2: Bobby. Good to have you on. 705 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 8: Always a bless to be on with you guys. 706 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: At the top of the show today, we started to 707 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the speed and velocity of 708 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: foreign policy successes that Donald Trump has already had in 709 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: his first four weeks. Normally, foreign policy takes a little 710 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: time to unfold, but not in this Trump presidency. He 711 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,479 Speaker 1: had Mexico and Canada immediately buck on tariffs and start 712 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: securing the border better, Russia at the table now, restoring 713 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: diplomatic relations, beginning a peace process with Ukraine, so many 714 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: other things happening. Is it surprising to see the velocity 715 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: of foreign policy success for this president? 716 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 9: You know, in some ways, John, it is it's not 717 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 9: just morning in America, it's morning in the world. And 718 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 9: it's morning in the world because it's morning in America. 719 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 9: What has happened here is we have seen anything. Honestly, 720 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 9: I often say, we haven't seen anything like this since 721 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 9: Ronald Reagan. But I think he's actually far out pacing 722 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 9: Ronald Reagan in the speed with which President Trump is 723 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 9: going after these things. The bottom line is, it's it's 724 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 9: how you set the table makes all the difference, John, 725 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 9: Deterrence is one way of deterrence, and peace through strength 726 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 9: is one way of creating and preserving world order, and 727 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 9: appeasement is another approach. And Biden pushed appeasement the way 728 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 9: you know Neville Chamberlain pushed appeasement, and Trump is pushing 729 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 9: de terrence the way Reagan and Churchill pushed to turrence. 730 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 8: So let's get right down to it. In every single. 731 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 9: Situation where you have an interaction with our allies, they 732 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 9: are now quite well aware that we are the largest economy, 733 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 9: the largest military, and frankly the country that will decide 734 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 9: whether or not there is a stable global environment. And 735 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 9: they either follow us or fall off the wagon. And 736 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 9: then on the adversary side, every single one of our 737 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 9: adversaries are back on their heels, John, So what we're 738 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 9: pivoting toward very quickly because people believe Donald Trump, they 739 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 9: trust his word, They are understanding clearly that we're on 740 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 9: a deterrence track and we are off the appeasement track. 741 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 3: Great points, Thank you, Bobby. Senator Rubio has been a 742 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 3: fierce advocate for a strong America first foreign policy. Now 743 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 3: that he's at the helm of the State Department, how 744 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 3: would you grate his performance so far? Is he making 745 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: the bold moves needed to reverse the global weakness that 746 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 3: we saw under Biden? 747 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 9: Great question, Rebecca, and actually a question is quite interesting 748 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 9: for the AMAC audience and frankly the global audience. I 749 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 9: did not expect Rubio to be as forward leaning as 750 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 9: he has been, but really two things define so far 751 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 9: what he's done. The first is he's walking into all 752 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 9: these countries from Panama to Europe with a clear Trump 753 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 9: like message, which is follow us or get out of 754 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 9: the way. And secondly, he's delivering the kind of clarity 755 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 9: that again I'm really gratified to see it again on 756 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 9: whether it's tariffs, or whether it's our defense coming back 757 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 9: again and how we feel about that, whether it's our 758 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 9: allies being told that we expect an alliance to be mutual, 759 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 9: whether it's our adversaries being pushed back on their heels, 760 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 9: or in the case of Panama, really calling the shots. 761 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 8: You know, one of the most. 762 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 9: Remarkable things he's done is to go down to Panama 763 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 9: and essentially completely reverse in a matter of ours, the 764 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 9: mental attitude and the geopolitical position of Panama. You know, 765 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 9: we built that canal with thirteen thousand I think Americans 766 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 9: died building that canal, and Theodore Roosevelt had it under. 767 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 9: America controlled it until Jimmy Carter decided to give it away, 768 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 9: and within one year of giving it away, the Chinese 769 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 9: controlled both ends of the canal, and Rubio, as Trump 770 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 9: has done, went down and said, look. 771 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 8: This day is over. 772 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 9: Our national security, both trade and warships have to be 773 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 9: able to pass through that canal with absolute certainty, clarity, 774 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 9: and no no hesitation or delay when we need them. 775 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 9: And so probably what we're going to find is that 776 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 9: China's out of the business of controlling the canal, and 777 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 9: we very very collegially will be in the business of 778 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 9: working with Panama to control the canal. 779 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 3: We built President Trump's idea of acquiring greenland that was 780 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 3: mocked by the left, but the reality is that it 781 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: could provide America with strategic advantages in the Arctic. Do 782 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 3: you think that this deal could actually happen under Trump, 783 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 3: and if so, how would it counter China and Russia's 784 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 3: growing military presence in that region. 785 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 9: So again, two very important aspects that come out of 786 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 9: that question, Rebecca, The first that you're spot on. The 787 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 9: first is that Greenland represents because of Arctic ice and 788 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 9: because of the potential Northwest passage, the whole idea that 789 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 9: we are in a position where China or Russia could 790 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 9: gain an advantage of us strategically if Greenland is essentially 791 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 9: allowed to be neutrable. And at the end of the day, 792 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 9: what that really means is China would take control of 793 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 9: a portion of the North Atlantic that we cannot afford 794 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 9: to let them take control of. So at the very least, 795 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 9: we're in a dialogue that didn't exist before because people 796 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 9: are aware of strategic concerns that Biden and frankly, you know, 797 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 9: everybody back to Clinton didn't really pay any attention to 798 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 9: could it happen? 799 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 8: The second big question. 800 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 9: You know, people didn't think the Louisiana purchase would happen. 801 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 9: They didn't think Alaska would happen, They didn't think Hawaii 802 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 9: would happen. You know, I think that Greenland is a 803 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 9: group is a population that looks at themselves and feels 804 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 9: somewhat alienated by Europe. And so you know, you know, 805 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 9: I put nothing out of the world of possibility. When 806 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 9: Donald Trump is in the White House, why because he 807 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 9: can incentivize behaviors and create win win deals that no 808 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 9: other president back to maybe Reagan or Theodore Roosevelt, have 809 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 9: ever been able to do. And you look at the 810 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 9: Middle East for example, again an example of where you 811 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 9: have to think outside the box. 812 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 8: You have to imagine the impossible. 813 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 9: For a minute and then get everybody else to start 814 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 9: thinking about what's possible. So could Greenland become somehow affiliated 815 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 9: with the United States, Yeah, it could happen. 816 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing. Bobby got about a minute left. There was 817 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: a little thing that happened that has spoke big words 818 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: to China. A little bit of change of word on 819 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: the State Department side about Taiwan independence. Sent some pretty 820 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: big message to China. 821 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 9: No, yes, So, I mean, I think it's pretty clear 822 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 9: that Trump is saying, we will define defend Taiwan, we 823 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 9: will defend freedom all over the world. 824 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 8: We don't want to go to war. 825 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 9: We want you to get your head about you and 826 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 9: understand that a peaceful coexistence is a far better option 827 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 9: than another war. I'll also note that Trump has put 828 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 9: ten percent tariffs on China and China says, well, we're 829 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 9: going to put fifteen percent tariffs back on you. So 830 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 9: the irony in this is that Trump is actually pushing China, 831 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 9: but China's attempt to push back is going to be useless. 832 00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 9: They put taxes on coal, on oil gas, and pickup trucks. Well, 833 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 9: guess what, we make a lot of coal, oil gas, 834 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 9: and pickup trucks. Okay, So China's ability to push us 835 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 9: around is going to zero or damn closed. And I 836 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 9: think Trump is just doing great things. And frankly is 837 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 9: also getting fentanyl out of this country by putting tariffs 838 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 9: on Mexico and Canada. 839 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: So thank god China played right into his hands on 840 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: that one, no doubt about it. 841 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 2: Bobby, It's always a great honor to have you on. Folks. 842 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: Go check out his amazing book, Cherish America, and it 843 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 1: is a great read. And also be sure to go 844 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: to AMAC that US slash No Noise Right now, AMAC 845 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 1: slash AMAC that US Slash No Noise. 846 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 2: Go check out that incredible forty percent off offer. We'll 847 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 2: be right back with some parting thoughts. 848 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: But after these messages, welcome back in America. So grateful 849 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: for the last and the great conversation that our friends 850 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: at AMAC made possible. Returning to peace of strength has 851 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: enormous consequences for the future of our country. I just 852 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: want to bring in my amazing co host for the 853 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: evening tonight, Rebecca. So much was discussed, I mean a 854 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: lot the process, but there's a clear theme, which is 855 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: when America is strong, the world is safer. 856 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 3: No oh yes, And we can see how Trump is 857 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 3: really focused on rebuilding our military, securing our borders, he 858 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: wants to renegotiate unfair trade deals. 859 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 6: He really is. 860 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 3: Standing firm against our adversaries. So I think that the 861 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 3: Trump administration is once again proving that a strong America 862 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 3: is a safer America, and he does that with peace 863 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 3: through strength. What amazing guests we've had today, all of 864 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 3: them very energized and believing that that is the path 865 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 3: forward and the best path forward. Unfortunately, we're coming out 866 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 3: of four years of a terrible foreign policy under Joe Biden, 867 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 3: and we're seeing how quickly in just a few short weeks, 868 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 3: Donald J. Trump is reversing course and bringing America and 869 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,280 Speaker 3: America First policies to the forefront. 870 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: And I have a lot of great little reminders of 871 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: my career over the last thirty five years. One of 872 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: my favorite is my AMAC card. Being an AMAC member, 873 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: being part of not just a service, but a community 874 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,959 Speaker 1: of great patriots is amazing. And I want to remind 875 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: folks over the last four years, when we were kind 876 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: of glumming down about where we were under Joe Biden, 877 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: it was AMAC that was writing and putting the vision 878 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: forward for a return not only for Donald Trump, but 879 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: a return to peace through strength. You guys have championed 880 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: this for a long time. Are moments here now to deliver. 881 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,439 Speaker 2: Isn't it? Oh yeah? 882 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 3: None of it would be possible without over two million 883 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 3: AMAC members. We've got to continue the fight to put 884 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 3: America First. The real work is starting now, so we 885 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: need more members. We're thrilled to offer everyone that great 886 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 3: discount forty seven percent off a four year membership. Go 887 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 3: ahead and check out the URL or a scan that 888 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,479 Speaker 3: QR code. But we're excited we need more members. John, 889 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 3: the more members we have, the stronger our voice in 890 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 3: Washington and beyond. 891 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've just scenes whether it's at the boot 892 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: camps Rebecca that you have hosted, or at the just 893 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: watching your action team go into action and make a 894 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: difference in conversations and state houses and in Congress. 895 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 2: You are an army to be reckoned with. 896 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 1: You've made America strong already, and it's been a blast 897 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: to host. 898 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 2: This conversation with the last half hour. Thank you, I 899 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 2: have last hour. Thanks for joining us. All right, folks, 900 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 2: one more time go to AMAC. 901 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: Do us slash no Noise, AMAC that US no Noise. 902 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: Take advantage of that incredible forty seven percent off on 903 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: a membership. 904 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 2: Join me. I'm a card carrying member. 905 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: You could be to the benefits are just extorting best 906 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: investment you'll make. 907 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna say good evening, have a great night. 908 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: We'll be back to our regular program.