1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. Welcome 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: back Man season two of All the Smoke. We got 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: a real special guys, what's up with your brody with 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: the virtual headshake? I'm gonna tell you that I never 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: told him back Smoke, Welcome back to a special edition 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: of All the Smoke All Star. With the All Star 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: Game right around the corner, we want to take a 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: second to kind of reflect on our experience last year, 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Jack's experience in the Rookie game, this coming All Star 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: UH selections and memorable moments through All Star games in 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: the past. Jack, Let's start with your rookie game experience. Uh, 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: you know it's no secret your journey was a wild 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: one to get to where you're at and you finally 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: land on your feet and you make the rookie team 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: your first year. What was it? Experience like it? What 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about the journey and what 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: you learned. It was a bit of sweet experience for me, Matt, 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: because you know the journey I've been through with getting 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: cut by set by at least sixteen NBA teams before 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: I got into of the NBA, breaking both of my 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: feet before I get to the NBA. All these things, 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: and to finally make it where I started my first 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: rookie game. I make it to the Rookie All Star Game, 25 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: and the experience was unbelievable because it was the All 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Star Game, and it may be one of the top 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: five All Star games because I got a chance to 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: see stephan Ai really take over Allstar Game and bring 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: them and bring their team back in d C and 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: uh to to beat the Western Conference. That was one 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: of the best All Star games that I've ever seen. 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: So to be able to play in that game with 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: guys like Baron David, Steve Francis, Darius Miles, Quinn Rich 34 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: and and and then then again Matt. My team was 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: the only team in the NBA that was starting two 36 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: rookies at the time, and I was leading all rookies 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: and scoring going into the All Star into All Star weekends. 38 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: So it was a great experience. I never thought i'd 39 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: be there. But coming back after All Star I didn't 40 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: start no more, didn't play again the rest of the season, 41 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it making it made Making 42 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: the All Star team was a bad thing for me. 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, because it made my value go up. But 44 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: it was a great experience and I'm glad to say 45 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: I experienced at one time. That's dope. I mean, those 46 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: rookie sophomare games are always so exciting because you get 47 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: to see the you know, obviously the stars of tomorrow. 48 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: We had an opportunity to do our first All Star 49 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: game as the all the smoke, fucking dynamic deal we become, 50 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: and I think the one thing that tripped me out 51 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: was all the love we got you know there. I mean, 52 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: we're down there with Braun and Kauai and all these dudes, 53 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: and all I kept hearing was people yell all the 54 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: smoke and that ship kind of tripped me out because 55 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: it was dope to see that we're resonating post career. 56 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: You know. We were trying to move head down, keep 57 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: it moving, saying what's up to people, But to me, 58 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: it was crazy. All the fans that were screaming for us. 59 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty dope. You hit it on 60 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: the nose, bro, Like when we walked in, you know, 61 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: we were just trying to really just get in where 62 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: we fit in, you know, so I make our presence felt. 63 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: But I didn't expect the reception we got, Bro, Like 64 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: you said, as soon as we walked in all the smoke, 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: they called our names. My name was called more at 66 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: the All Star Weekend for the show than never for basketball. 67 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: So it was amazing what I was saying, Yeah, it 68 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: was amazing experience. And and to see so many of 69 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: our fans, of course the basketball fans, but to see 70 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: them appreciate the show that we that that we brought 71 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: to him, and it meant a lot to us, absolutely. 72 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: And then it's also where we started something that hopefully 73 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: once this pandemic comes down, uh finishes up or or 74 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: subsides or we get back to some sort of normalcy 75 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: starting live show. We have the opportunity to interview Kevin 76 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: Garnett All Star Weekend and that was my first time 77 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: getting a chance to really be around him and his 78 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: energy off the court. And the ship was electric, Bro, 79 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: from the time we're in the green room talking talking 80 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: ship him telling the stories to the time we got 81 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: on stage and he went to two or three towels 82 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: sweating out like the great, the great Uh, John Thompson 83 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: rest in peace. It was just a great experience, you know, 84 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: to hear you know, his MJ Stories to hear how 85 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: he wanted to play with Code and Code didn't call 86 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: him back, And I really think it opened the door 87 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: to show that, you know, we don't have to do 88 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: these just these isolated interviews from home or even in 89 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: the studio. Hopefully, like I said, when the world comes 90 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: back to some sort of normalcy, we can get out 91 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: and put all the smoke on the road and get 92 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: the fans what they really want. I think that was 93 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: the same experience for both of us. I played against 94 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: KG a lot, you know, and I knew what he 95 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: was as a player, but that was my first time 96 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: to Matt being around him and feeling that energy off 97 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: the court, to him forcing me to take a shot 98 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: that I didn't want to take. Uh rang from the jump, bro, 99 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he's somebody that we 100 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: looked up to. He's somebody that I admired, you know 101 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, And to be able to hear he's 102 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: probably the best story tell I've ever I've ever made 103 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: a story from it. I love KG Man. I can't 104 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait till you tell for us to do 105 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: more things in the Fusion with him and hopefully interview 106 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: him again. Yeah, definitely shut out KG. He's actually he's 107 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: got a new show coming. I don't know if it 108 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: has a title yet, but he's redesigning man Cave. So 109 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: he came over to the boys game room and and 110 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: and and and met the twins and he's gonna redesign 111 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: their game room. So they've been gassed ever since. So 112 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited. Definitely shut out of the Homy KG. Great interview, 113 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: great opportunity, and hopefully it will open doors back to 114 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: some live shows once we can well, Jack, Let's take 115 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: a look at the starters um for both sides. Let's 116 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: start with Steph Curry from Golden State Wars making his 117 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: seventh All Star selection. Luca don Chech a controversial selection 118 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: although he's great, A lot of people, including Luca, felt 119 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Dame should be the starting two guard, but nevertheless, Luca 120 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: gets his second All Star nod King James number seventeen 121 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: for him. Uh, just man salute. Not enough things could 122 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: be said about his greatness. His motherfucker's been in his 123 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: prime since he started, and no one ever has been 124 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: in the prime that long. Uh. Next up, Joki makes 125 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: his third All Star selection from Denver, one of the 126 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: best bigs in the game, if not the best big 127 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: in the game. And to round out the starting five, 128 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: Kawai Leonard making his fifth All Star selection. Jack. Before 129 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: we jump to the Eastern Conference, anything about the Western 130 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Conference that stands out, you know, you want to touch 131 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: on that Dame situation or anything else. I mean, I mean, 132 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: this is the usual, you know what I'm saying. I 133 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: tell you that the league do Dame like they did Ai. 134 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, they they didn't want him to just to 135 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: be that guy in that face because he don't fit 136 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: there there ner ative, But Dame deserves to be in 137 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: the start line up. Everybody that loves basketball, everybody that 138 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: watches basketball, everybody that counts stats, everybody that cheers for 139 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: their team, everybody that even seeing a basketball bounce, no 140 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: Dame letter deserves to be a start on that team. 141 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: And um, that's It's just it's just that simple. But 142 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: you can't go against anybody, and that's starting five. All 143 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: those guys belong in the All Star Game. All those 144 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: guys can can be a starter on this on the 145 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: Western Conference All Star team any year. So you can't 146 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: really knock those guys. But you always got to throw 147 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: your hat enough for Dame because if anybody deserves it, 148 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, I mean, we're definitely here to support Dame, 149 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: but that destinerly doesn't lessen Luca's greatness and what he's 150 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: been able to accomplish, and his spot on this team 151 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: is definitely deserving as well. But you, like I said, 152 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know, Dame should have got that, not 153 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: but hey, that's how the ship goes. But he should 154 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: definitely be voted in UM as a reserve. UM. Let's 155 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: take a look at the Eastern Conference, starting with Janice 156 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: fifth All Star selection in Milwaukee, Bradley Beale leading the 157 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: league and scoring. You know, the team is starting to 158 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: show a little bit of life. But happy for him, 159 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: he's really starting to be recognized as a great player. 160 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Easy money. Kevin Durant coming back off and Achilles uh 161 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: is in the m v P category. This is his 162 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: eleventh All Star game, which is a tremendous show of 163 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: love for him because, like I said, he's come back 164 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: from an achilles like he never had an achilles, And 165 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: if you think about it, back in the day, Achilles 166 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: was a career ender. So you know, really happy for 167 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: our brother Kevin Durant. He was able to no pun 168 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: intended land on his feet and really pick up where 169 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: he left off. Joe l Embiid his fourth All Star 170 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: selection is someone I'm really excited for. Doc's got this 171 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: guy playing great. You know when his his his only people, 172 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: the only person that could stop him in this game 173 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: is himself, and I think he's finally out of his head. 174 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: Doc hasn't believe in itself and this man is incredible 175 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: night in night out. He's been there for his team 176 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: and I love to see it. And to round out 177 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: your brother, uh. Kyrie Irving with his seventh All Star selection. 178 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: I saw someone ask a question the other day, is 179 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: Kyrie the most skilled player in the history of the NBA? 180 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: And I really had to stop and think for a second. 181 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: They're not saying he's the best skilled player? Is he 182 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: the most skilled player? And I would have I mean, 183 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: I would argue for that. He is one of, if 184 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: not the most skilled player, definitely one of the top two, three, 185 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: four maybe at to ever do this, from the visibility 186 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: to dribble the ball, pass the ball, score the ball 187 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: underneath the rim he got up and dunked, the way 188 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: he hits clutch shots, There's not a hole in his 189 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: offensive game, and his skill set is is something that 190 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: definitely needs to be praised. Yeah, his his godfather, Roder Strickland, 191 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: was one of the best finishes and ever in the 192 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: n b A and and he wants and and that 193 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: that came from him. He said that Kyrie is the 194 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: best finish at the NBA. Are the most skilled player 195 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: the NBA has ever seen. And when you talk about 196 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: skilled players, you you gotta talk about Kyrie. But we're 197 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: not even get into that. But he is definitely the 198 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: probably the most skilled in the game today. But we're 199 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: talking about the East. We're talking about the East All 200 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Star East All Stars. I got a problem, Matt, I 201 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: got a problem with that. Five. I really think that 202 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: the way that he's came to this new team, the 203 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: way he's picked up on the role, embraced his role 204 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: and still is the dominant player in the game and 205 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: still is one of the best scores in the game. 206 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: James Harden is a starter with regardless what conference he in. 207 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: I think Joanna should be knocked off as high horts. 208 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: I really think they've been They've been giving him all 209 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: these accolades. Yeah, he's a top ten player, but today 210 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: Brooklyn should have three starters in the All Star Game 211 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: and Joanna and James Harden should be a start in 212 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: this game. No question, in my mind, he should be 213 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: a starter, regardless what conference he in. James hard is 214 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: a starter. I'm not even mad at that, and I 215 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: agree with you. You know what was funny was I 216 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: think it was Isaiah, one of the twins, said, man, 217 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: James Harden went to Brooklyn, took the fat suit off, 218 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: and he's been killing It. Was crazy though, but but 219 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: there's no question. You know, we had a chance to 220 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: talk about him on What's Burning, but you know the 221 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: way he's kind of come into a team with two superstars, 222 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: him being the third one coming late, but him doing 223 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: the most adjusting and being able to feel every void 224 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: they need uh from, you know, from the decision maker 225 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: to the distributor to the big shot maker and like 226 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: you even said earlier, stepping it up on defense because 227 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: defense is nothing but energy. So I definitely think James 228 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: Harden is a starter, should be in the Eastern Conference. 229 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: But hey, you know, he came over late. They're gonna 230 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: make a bunch of excuses, but he'll definitely be named 231 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: to the team. Next up. We're gonna take a trip 232 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: down memory lane and talk about some of the most 233 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: special moments in All Star Week in history. Some of 234 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: the stuff we grew up watching his children. Some of 235 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: this stuff we got to be a part of as adults. Um, 236 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: let's start with m J and Dominique's dunk contest in nineteen. 237 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate cause I think Dominique wilkins greatness as a 238 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: dunker and as a player was overshadowed by MJ in 239 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: the dunk contest and with MJ's career. But the Dominique 240 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: was a motherfucking monster obviously player, but his dunk, the 241 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: verocity he used to dunk with. It's scary. This dude 242 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: was doing slam dunk contest dunks in games. Sum it 243 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: up the Human Highlight film. That was his nickname. He 244 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: was a monster. Next up Larry Bird three point moment 245 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: where he put his hand up because he knew he 246 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: had won it, or he knew it was going in 247 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: before it went in, legendary three point shoot. I would 248 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: love to see Larry Bird shootout with like because I 249 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: would love to see like a Larry Steph Reggie Clay, 250 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: who would you put the fish shooter in there? Obviously, 251 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: but you're not a fan of him. I like Ray Allen, 252 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: but you might not want no. I wouldn't you know 253 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: who I put in there? You got Reggie? You got Reggie, 254 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: you got Clay? Who else you got? Yeah, Larry, Um, 255 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: I think I would go Dale Curry with Dell Curry, 256 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: who put Pops in there? Huh like that? I think 257 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: that would be a legendary shoot obviously a great shootout. 258 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: Larry wanted the best to ever do it, next up 259 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: d Brown when he brought imagination style antics to the 260 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: dunk Contest. But before he even did that, Jack remember 261 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: he pumped up his motherfucking rebox and then had everyone 262 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: going crazy three box at first, and then he went 263 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: and did the little uh hand over the face dunk 264 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: and kind of set the To me, that might have 265 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: started like kind of the showmanship of the dunk Contest 266 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: with antics, although it's got, it's gone to a whole 267 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: nother level today. That was very creative because I think 268 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: that's back in I think I was just turned down. 269 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: I was just about to turn eleven, and d Brown 270 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: was before his time. He was the first person to 271 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: dab in the air Man he jumped in the air 272 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: and damn like to me go he and dug it. 273 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: He was the first person to do that. He before 274 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: his time. They have almost twenty years before the dad. 275 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: One thing I really remember vividly because this guy was 276 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: my favorite player, was Magic Johnson's return to the All 277 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: Star Game UM in ninety two. Um, you know, after 278 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: having retired early from HIV. I think the game was 279 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: in Orlando. He came in, got one m v P 280 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: of the All Star Game, and to me, I remember 281 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: that moment clear his day. I think I was in 282 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: sixth grade, but I was just so happy to see 283 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: Magic back out there playing again. Um. I thought that 284 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: was great for the game. Man. It felt good for 285 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: every kid that grew up watching basketball, age that looked 286 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: up to Magic, that knows what he means to the 287 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: game of basketball. To see him back out there, to 288 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: see that smile, to see him in Isaiah greet each 289 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: other how they normally to do, it meant everything. It 290 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: was one of the best moments of All Star weekend. 291 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: Next up, uh Kobe's first All Star Game, youngest All 292 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Star in the history. If I mistaken against m J 293 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: on the biggest stage in the world, Madison Square Guard. 294 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: Anything you remember about that game, I just knew that 295 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: Kobe was going to shadow MJ and just try to 296 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: go at him. I didn't know what to expect, but 297 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I knew Kobe was gonna take a real series. And 298 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: just to see m J and his clone on the 299 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: court looking so similar, just split an image of Jordan 300 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: on the court. Man, it was good to see. But 301 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: me knowing Kobe, it was I've seen the joy on 302 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: Kobe face and uh it was. It was. It was 303 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: refreshing to see. Well, I thought, what was dope was 304 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: we got a behind the scenes I don't know if 305 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: it was from MJ's dock this past year that happened. 306 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: But they knew Kobe was coming. They knew Kobe wasn't 307 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: gonna play like this as a tradition All Star game. 308 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: They said, they knew the young boy was coming. He 309 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: was gonna take it hard, play hard the whole time. 310 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what he did. And that's why I 311 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: love Kobe, because I even tell you another story. I 312 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: remember he treated every basketball situation like it was a 313 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: real game, whether it was an All Star Game or not. 314 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: But I remember he invited me up to his camp 315 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: in Santa Barbara. He used to hold the camp when 316 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: Mike stopped doing his camp, Kobe was doing his camp 317 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: up in Santa Barbara and I I was just coming 318 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: off a knee surgery that season. I came back at 319 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: the end of the playoffs. We got swept by Dallas, 320 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: but my knee was still a little funked up. So 321 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm just going up there. They're talking to 322 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: hang out. We're out there playing I think two on 323 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: two with like some teenage kids and Bro. When I 324 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: tell you, Kobe was playing harder than Ship block and 325 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: shot Duncan made one kid fall and I'm like, I'm like, 326 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: damn Kobe and sucking kids. He's like so like Ship, 327 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: So it doesn't it doesn't surprise me. It doesn't surprise 328 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: me that, you know what I'm saying. He took that 329 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: nine eight All Star Game his first game like it 330 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: was Game seven of the finals. That's what you know. 331 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: Obviously we know and love about cod rest in Peace, 332 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: Starr brother. But he didn't give a ship who was 333 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: in front of him. If a basketball was throwing up, 334 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: it was going down. Next up. Vince Carter in the 335 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: two thousand Slam Dunk Contest um to me change dunking 336 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: forever um. You know, with all due respect everyone that 337 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: came in the past. You think about the dunks back 338 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: in the day when m J and then were doing it. 339 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: Those are such basic dunks now but still hard but 340 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: basic dunks. And Vince did something which most people can't, 341 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: which is think outside the box to be super creative. 342 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: And some of the dunks he came with, and that 343 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: two thousand All Star Game, we're incredible. With a loaded field. 344 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: You gotta think they had a young Tea Mac, They 345 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: had Jason Richardson and Steve Francis. A lot of boys 346 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: are out there jumping, but Vince was obviously the most 347 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: memorable dunk contest possibly in the history of of All 348 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: Star Games. I couldn't do the dunks that Jordan and 349 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: them was doing back in the day. Let alone do 350 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: the ship Vince was doing. Vince really set the standard 351 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: for what the dunk contest is supposed to be. Like 352 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: the dunks he was doing, the way he did him, 353 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: the way he took over the crowd. Uh, the hi 354 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: ho hi he jumped. He just everything that you needed 355 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: to win the dunk contest and to be probably the 356 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: best contested ever. Vince did it. You know, what I'm saying. 357 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: He had the class, he had the CAREERSMA, he had 358 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: the showmanship, he had everything. Bro. He set the standard 359 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: for what the dunk contest should be. Uh. Last, but 360 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: not least, MJ's memorable Bowl last All Star Game fade away, 361 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: which should have won them the game. There's a bullshit 362 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: called by the ref surprise surprise, and they end up losing. 363 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: But uh, thoughts on MJ's last game. I want to say, 364 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: you guys won a championship that year in San Antonio. 365 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: So what are your memories of that two thousand three Uh, 366 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: MJ All Star run? Oh there it is the big ring, 367 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: the big boy. You were ready for this. You must 368 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: have read the notes before beforehand. Yeah, Bro, two thousand 369 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: and three was special for me. Man winning the championship 370 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: was a great year. Uh. Seeing m J, you know, 371 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: play against our era and still be dominant and make 372 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: those plays in the All Star Game. I think that 373 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: that year was one of one of my best years 374 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: of being at the NBA AD A lot of things. 375 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: I got a chance to see him J play, you know, 376 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: we played against him, and like I said, winning the championship, 377 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: seeing him in All Star Game, a lot of Uh, 378 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: David Robinsons last year, you know, getting him a championship 379 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: on this way out. Um, So a lot of things 380 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: about that year with Special Man, but definitely seeing MJ 381 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: do his thing in All Star Game before he went 382 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: out with Special Well. I hope you guys enjoyed that. 383 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: Look back, um on All Star Weekend from the past 384 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: to the press, is it and take a look now 385 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: at some of the better moments of all the smoke 386 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: and All Star memories from our guests. Yeah, g people 387 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: was kind of my example of what I wanted to 388 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: But I give Gary shout the GP man. We was 389 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: in the everybody's talking about the twenty anniversary events winning 390 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: the Dunk Contest in Oakland. Right. What y'all don't know 391 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: is that Kobe Bryant rest in peace to my dog. 392 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: He took another level of being a defensive standpoint because 393 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: Gary Payton at the practice after after practice All Star practice, 394 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: poured us to the side because Code asked him something. 395 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: They pulled both of us to the side, So let 396 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: me tell y'all something. Look when you're playing defense. And 397 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: then he went through a thirty minute joint with both 398 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: of us with defense and keeping us between the landing 399 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: and reaching and how to reach and when you reach 400 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: up and just low tricks of the trade. That next 401 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: time I saw cold after the break, he was using 402 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: came first team that yet the first time I've seen, 403 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: I said, he used that. Sorry, sorry saw it, y'all 404 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: saw so I caught that. Ain't think I saw it, 405 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: but I knew that only the three of us was 406 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: part of that. So I was like, you got the 407 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: way you saw? I thought it wasn't call that ship wow, 408 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: because GP taught us when you ripped somebody to go 409 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: through that chest versus usually your hand. You see this right, 410 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: He told to take a step and come through your 411 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: chest and come and then round out. It's no way 412 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: you can protect the ball. You can't cross it back 413 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: once you get that once I mean your cab, you 414 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: can't cross it up. You we didn't have to turn 415 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: your back. Oh man, I saw Coke take that first 416 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: night after the break. I saw it. You know, we 417 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: want no texting and none of that back then. But 418 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: when I first saw him, I shot there was stated 419 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: right here. When I saw him, I knew exactly what 420 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: I was talking about. For that, you know, seeing that 421 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: we're here at all star, what is what is your 422 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: favorite All Star moment? Favorite All Star moment vents sitting 423 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: on the floor, Believe it or not, I got that 424 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: footage to y'all know night, I got yeah, no, no, 425 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: come see me. Motherfucker's think y'all getting this ship for free? 426 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: Y'all kiss my ass right, it's going that ink hollo right. 427 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: But I got that. That was probably one of my 428 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: favorite because all my friends was probably two couple rolls. 429 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: You we got to see that, and it was the 430 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: first time the world got to really see events like 431 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: we knew Vince in high school, grew up with dart 432 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: YadA and for him to like put that on display 433 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: like that and just give us an unbelievable A lot 434 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: of people don't know. Um Tracy and Steve to Stacy 435 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: and Stevens and that too. You know what I'm saying. 436 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: That was one of the better before Zack and uh Gordon. Uh. 437 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: That was probably my favorite. That was probably my favorite, 438 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: uh dunk I test some time. But out of all 439 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: the stuff men, I've I've always been able to pull 440 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: something out of each All Star game. UM. One of 441 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: my favorites was coming out I was getting ready to UM, 442 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: I was leaving the All Star Game and I had 443 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: a bag of stuff and I was coming out and 444 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: Craig Sager needed an interview for his clothes and didn't 445 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: want to do it, and I was trying to, you know, 446 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: we didn't hit back. Look like you know, like you 447 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: know how you play shadow. He's trying to get by somebody. 448 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, track what you're doing. I got kissed my plane. 449 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: Get the funk out here? Yeah, yeah, that's my sister. 450 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: Shout to Bill, I call him shitty s the bag 451 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: and said, yo, should he take this to the planet. 452 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: And I'm trying to get out. He said, Yo, just 453 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: give me two seconds. I needed out, said get the 454 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: funk out of my way. And I kind of pushed him, 455 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of gave him some whatever. He 456 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: was like, man, and I saw how he lost it. 457 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: Come on, man, fun it come on and he and 458 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: and I was, I'm just gonna say whatever I want 459 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: to say. So okay, just give me this. I just 460 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: need thirty seconds to get out of here. Okay, okay, okay, 461 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: and go. And then I saw he had on. I 462 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: looked and I said, hold on, hold on, hold on. 463 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: So look, you know, I never tried to go at 464 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: you right, like what the funk? Like, really, what the 465 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: funk is this dog? Like really you came to the 466 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: game like this dog, and he was trying to get 467 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: it in it like now funk all that low, no burn, 468 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: all this ship, everything the green thrown to, all this 469 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: and all of it and kind of gave him a 470 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: little sound value and see it what up? Tore it. 471 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: But then he got out of that and I turned around. 472 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: I was like, thanks yo, two thousand to me arguments, 473 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: uh argua, believe you changed the dunk contest forever. Now 474 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: we can talk about Mike's dunk from the free throw 475 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: line and all the dunks in the history. But you 476 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: came in and did some ship we had never seen. 477 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: I remember, I've been fucking study hall at U c 478 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: l A and the dunk contest is coming on. So 479 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: somehow I got the lady to bring a TV and 480 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: study hall and we watched you in Oracle Arena. Changed 481 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: the dunk contest forever. How did you? I mean, you 482 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: did dunks we never seen? Did you prap? How did 483 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: you know what you were gonna do? Talk to us 484 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: about that. So leading up to it, first of all, 485 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: first of all, it took the Act of Congress to 486 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: get Mac to do it because he didn't want to 487 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: do it. People don't know that, Like he put on 488 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: the hell of a show himself and he did not 489 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: want to do it. Who else you did that dunk contest? People? 490 00:22:54,200 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: I was a good dunk contest Ricky Davis, see Frankie yeah, Stackhouse, 491 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting. That's That's all the way I could think 492 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: of right now. That's it was crazy and t Mac 493 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, so it was. It was crazy. But 494 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: I was just like, bro, we could go here and 495 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: put to run on the map, and you know, we 496 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: could show what we could do because like we fooled around, 497 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: Like we were fooling around with different stuff. I remember 498 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: in San Antonio at a practice one day was we 499 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: were just going crazy, throwing the ball all over the 500 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: gym off one bounce and just doing crazy stuff just 501 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: from trying to figure stuff out. So we had an 502 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: awful trip there. Our car didn't pick us up one time, 503 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: so we missed our practice leading up to the contest, 504 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: so we never got the practice. Our practice was the 505 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: layoup line or whatever, the warmup line right before this 506 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: contest started, so we never got the practice and my 507 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: routine that I was gonna do. I saw all these 508 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: people man, and sitting around you see all the stars 509 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: and everything, and that was all of us. Just bro, 510 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: I was like this, this routine is not good enough. 511 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: So I scrapped all of that. In the layoup it's 512 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: I was so high. It took me everything not to 513 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: do my dunk routine in the layout line back. I 514 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: was just so hype, like I've been looking for just fly, 515 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: just fly, that's it. I'm ready to show everybody what 516 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: I could do. Like and I take for all my 517 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: high school in middle school, I didn't care about watching 518 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: Sunday at the All Star Game. I just wanted to 519 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: take and watch the dunk contests on on Saturday. And 520 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I'm finally here. I ain't about to 521 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: blow this, but I'm about to go ham. So when 522 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: I got out there, I saw all these people, man, 523 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: and my my energy uh, and my my drilling was 524 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: on ten thousand ro so uh, I scrapped it. And 525 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: so I was just trying to figure out what to do. 526 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: So that's first dunk, the reverse three sixty. I had 527 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: tried to god. So I tried that dunk and barely 528 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: made it when I was practicing, So I originally I 529 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: had scrapped that already. But when I got out there, 530 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: I saw all these people and I saw Twine there 531 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, watch this year, what you about 532 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: to do? I was like, you walked into that motherfucker 533 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: perfect too, just walked into that mother hey. But I 534 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: was just so I was so hyped. So that's why. 535 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: So if you notice, remember when I ducked the ball, 536 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: boom and go through, and then I was so hype 537 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: my second bounce, I probably could have did a windmill, 538 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, like I was just so high because I'd 539 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: never accomplished that dunk like that before. But that was 540 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: all adrenaline. That was so every in between every dunk, 541 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: I was just over, just like just trying to figure 542 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: out what next, what next? What next? So I did 543 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: the one step, one eighty windmill. What I wanted to 544 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: show everybody, Like, you know, honestly, you didn't see many 545 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: people jumping the other way and right. So I had 546 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: taught myself how to jump, to do the reverse three sixty, 547 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: and just practice the practice, practice until I got it 548 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: to this day. Like if you asked me to do 549 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: a dunk, I would do a reverse three sixty before 550 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: I do the regular one. Cannot I can't go the 551 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: other way anymore, like I can't. I can't. I can't. 552 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Just makes no sense of me. It's so you go crazy, 553 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: you get lost in your old age, get lost, absolutely, 554 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: but I can't do it, like I'll barely make it. 555 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: So that's why I wanted to show just obviously going 556 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: against the grain, obviously a full extended wind mill blah 557 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: blah blah whatever, and I didn't know if I was 558 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: gonna get that high, but whatever. So with the one 559 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: any dunk, I wanted to show that I could take 560 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: one step out of the baseline, sort to the front 561 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: of the rim while doing the extended wind bill and boom, 562 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: throw it through. So I didn't get it. I didn't 563 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: get a tent from Kenny Smith, you know, which kind 564 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: of bothered me. So yeah, but he was like, oh, 565 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: you set the bar too high. Well walking on the port. 566 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: That's the last thing. That's the last thing I said 567 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: to myself before my first dunk, I said, show up 568 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: a show out, And that used to be our terminology 569 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: in the band before. You know, obviously in the South 570 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: the band is huge, so we weren We're gonna show 571 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: up and show out. So I was like, you know, 572 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: this is my chance to show the world my imagination 573 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: and what I'd be thinking about my head when it 574 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: comes to duncan now you to to talk about that 575 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: dunk contest and then to think it was twenty years ago? 576 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? That ship was exactly 577 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: exactly And I still get chilled. I still get chills, 578 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: and I'm still like, man, what was I thinking? When? When? When? When? No, 579 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Some of his teammates weren't even born That 580 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: bro teammates weren't even born yet. Think about that. Yeah, 581 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that ship is insane. 582 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: So it's just funny to kind of here and and 583 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: see it and to just to think of all what 584 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: transpired and and think. Once Kenny gave me that nine, 585 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, all right, I gotta step this 586 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: up a little bit. Huh, Okay, I gotta get it Tim. 587 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: I didn't want the competition to be close. I but 588 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: that's why I wanted team back in there, because I 589 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: knew he would push me to do it because he 590 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: he had like his dunk His dunks were crazy, stupid bounce, 591 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: and that's what that's what pushed me to the next 592 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: level did seeing what Steve Frances did, Like we forget 593 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: about what Steve Friss was doing. He killing. Hey, do 594 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: y'all remember anything that Ricky Davis did. Didn't didn't go 595 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: into the legs and crazy back, but nobody remembers that. 596 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Seeing that, I was like, Okay, 597 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: I gotta step it up. So the arm in the 598 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: rim came like this. I played in Gary Payton game 599 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: and I was in the layup line. I was jumping 600 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: over the rim and I did it in the warm 601 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: ups too, but I was jumping over the rim and 602 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: I was just dropping the ball in and I was like, Okay, cool, 603 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that, but I gotta add something to it. 604 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to hang. I've never done it, 605 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't know how to do it. I ain't 606 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: gonna buy something all. He's right, you know how to 607 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: do it. Just dunk my fuck Let me dunk my 608 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: fucking arm real quick, right. So the last thing, the 609 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: last thing I remember leaving my coach, Butch Carter said, 610 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: don't go out there and break your damn arm. In 611 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: your legs. That's what you said to me. So when 612 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm standing up the rim before I about the jump there, 613 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: like bro, please don't fall off this room. I was 614 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: buying time, like I didn't know what what to do, 615 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: how to do it, so when I walked it off, 616 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: but I wanted to show. So what I wanted to 617 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: show you is that how high I could jump. I 618 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: want to show that I could get my arm a 619 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: butter rim and then you know, the rest is history. 620 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of hang up there and I 621 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: want you to say. I want you to be like, 622 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: what the fuck? What I what? And I want you 623 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: to realize what happened when you looked at that that 624 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: jumper Trump sick because they've never seen it. It didn't 625 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: get the initial because people are like, what what did 626 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: he just do? And that's what I wanted. That's what 627 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: that ship reminded me of. What was the movie? What's 628 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: the movie with uh? The Tropic Thunder? What's the movie 629 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: semi pro When they when they first when they first 630 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: threw the alley, you and Mothercker's didn't know how to 631 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: read like that was like what did he just do? 632 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: Like yeah, he's like that's when He's like, that's a foul. 633 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: Two points. Yeah, it was that. It was that kind 634 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: of awe though, like people like, did he just stick 635 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: his fucking dunk his arm and hang out? That's what 636 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: I want. So if you notice when I walk away, 637 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: I had my eyes closed, just making sure it was 638 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: quiet in the arena, and I just started laughing. Yeah, 639 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: because after that's what I'm like, they're gonna be like, 640 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: oh so that was the that dunk and then in 641 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: between the legs dunks or the two that made up 642 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: that night was the one though when it was over. 643 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: We so So that's the crazy thing about every time, 644 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: every time I look at that dunk, like I look 645 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: at the first four dunks. Oh so yeah, between the legs, 646 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: so I said it was over because like I'm trying 647 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: dunks for the first time making up tonight, and I'm 648 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: making these on the first try. It's over. It's over. 649 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: That's what that limp out. Now I'm trying to push 650 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: the envelope a little bit. I saw that in between 651 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: the legs in East Bay Magazine picture for the Jump Souls. 652 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: Remember the jump Souls, you know, when I was in 653 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: the East Bay Magazine Because it comes from the East 654 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Bay Gangster. Yeah. I saw that picture, right. I saw 655 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: that picture. So I was like, I'm gonna try that. 656 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: But they said you got to use a teammate. So 657 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, uh t Max, you gotta 658 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: drop bounce the ball off the bounce. Yeah, And we 659 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: never practiced. He was like, cause, what're you about to do? 660 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: I said, just bounced the ball, get held out of 661 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: the way. He bounced. He's like, what's he bounced it 662 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: the first time? He bounced it too high because I 663 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: didn't know where to bounce it. How high need I said, 664 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: just bounce it waist hight. That seemed logical to me. 665 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: Waist high so I can just catch it and then 666 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: put it between the last said bounced the ball and 667 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: walk out the way. And if you look at you 668 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: see him bounced the ball and he looked back like 669 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: what is he doing? And that's how I came up 670 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: with it. I never tried in my life, so I 671 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: didn't know if I was gonna make it or not. 672 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: And that's where the point came when I did that, 673 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: because I'm like, that's what That's what it was. I 674 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: was like, brother, Gods is on my side. The dunk 675 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: God it's over. So so I I did you same 676 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: boat steal that from you. That's all I'm saying. I 677 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: did in two he alright, that's his ship now I 678 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it did it first. Yeah, that's cool. 679 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: You can have it because it's over. I take the 680 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: credit for this over. Yeah, two thousand three, you're the 681 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: leading vote getter in the league. Uh, MJ's last year. 682 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: You decided to give MJ your starting spot. Talk to 683 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: us about that. Basically, Yeah, I decided, But it was 684 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: it was it was encouraged by the league that it 685 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: was a good idea, you know, but by the powers 686 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: that be it was probably a good idea that MJ 687 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: starts in his last, his last All Star game. I 688 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: ain't no food, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I 689 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: ain't no food. First of all, like we all look 690 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: up the MJ and and he's a hero, and like, 691 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: bro that that's that's a memory that nobody else can 692 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 1: can talk about, Like the can't be that can't be duplicated. 693 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: But I got a story, Like I could tell this 694 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: story forever, Like you'd be like, oh man, nobody else 695 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: can say that, Like and MJ wouldn't take the spot bro, 696 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: like when they it's probably good. I was like, Bro, 697 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: I was giving this is m J last year, Bro, 698 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: and you're not starting. Bro, I I got I got 699 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: a chance to kind of do this again. This is you, 700 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: this is your time, m J. So and so I 701 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: pulled him aside, but it was all day in the morning, 702 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: practice or whatever you want to call it. I was like, 703 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: MJ bro, take no, no, no, you earned this with it, alright, 704 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,239 Speaker 1: cool right about argue. So we get down there right 705 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 1: before we run it out, and said, m J bro 706 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: take the spot. You're gonna start, Bro. I said, if 707 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: you don't take the spot, I'm gonna stay in the 708 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: back and I ain't gonna come out right what I said. 709 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: I said, I'm not getting blackballed from the league because 710 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: you you're talking about just you know you earned it? Yeah, okay, cool, 711 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I earned it. We know that, but you're starting. Before 712 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: right before they called him for the starting lineup, he 713 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: still wouldn't go. You see it. The last minute is 714 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: where he took his if you see it, the last 715 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: minute he taking shirt and he go out there, but 716 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: he would not go. I was like, bro, please please 717 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: just go because I'm gonna walk to the back and 718 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: it ain't happened. So he takes it, and it was 719 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: like I was like, man, thank god, Bron, because that's 720 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: steal though, because you got so yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 721 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: it's it's all good. But like I'm thinking there to say, 722 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: I gave m his last start and then what happened 723 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: that fade away? Bro? He hit the ye perfect. I 724 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: think the NBA messed up. Bro, I think the NBA 725 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: messed up. They're trying to be all technical and stuff. 726 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: So m J y'all might remember, Yeah, y'all definitely remb 727 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: me up in around MJ hit the fade away and 728 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: they called the time out. We're trying to get the 729 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: game stopped right there. Yeah, we're The game should have 730 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: been stopped right there. Forget the one point two seconds 731 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: or two however many seconds left, forget all that. The 732 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: game over. The greatest of all times just capped off 733 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: his most famous shot never in the in the All 734 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: Star Game. It should be over. Now another great player 735 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: goes and and and does what he does. Kobe breen 736 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: By Kobe Bean Bryant goes up to hit the the 737 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: game winner, but it should have been stopped regardless. Point Like, 738 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: that's how that's how you do that? And I think 739 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: they dropped the ball on that one the two greatest 740 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: back to back shots long time. You spoke on your 741 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: experience being a rookie with grown ass man kind of 742 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: thrown in the fire. You got a chance to play 743 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: with Vince Carter for one year there. Uh, you know, 744 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: I remember first seeing him there and he was just 745 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: he took the world by storm, you know when Vince sanity, 746 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: half man, half amazing, you know, kind of hit hit 747 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: Toronto and put them on the map. How was it 748 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: your one year playing with VC? It was tough. It 749 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: was tough, but he did an awesome job, you know, 750 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: looking back on it, he was only like twenty five 751 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: years old, you know. And he took me under his wing. 752 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: He um, you know, he take me out to on 753 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: the road. He even came over, you know with dinner 754 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: with me and my parents, you know, my parents and stuff, 755 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: and um, you know, he showed me, um, you know things. 756 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: He took me under his wing, you know. And uh, 757 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure if people knew my capability 758 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: coming into the league. You know, I had supreme confidence 759 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: in myself, so I knew I could help a team 760 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: right away. I knew that he wanted to win UM 761 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: and so did I. So I wanted I always wanted 762 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 1: to be that rookie that showed up in the game, 763 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it was so much 764 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: pressure and he was so good. I mean a lot 765 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: of people don't know how much talent he possessed. God 766 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: physically gifted and skilled people I've ever seen in my 767 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: whole entire life. Yeah, he was incredible. So just just 768 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: to be able to see that and just I mean, 769 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: just to see the insanity factor to be at all 770 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: start with this dude and just watch him just walking 771 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: people reacting to whom and it was it was amazing, 772 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, even you know, a couple of parties, even 773 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: couple of parties, just a couple, just a couple. We 774 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: didn't have a game the next day, you know what 775 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But he took me, did a great job, 776 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: and just just like really just being around him, man, 777 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: he was he was awesome. Do he one thing that 778 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: I used to love bro to me. I was just like, Yo, 779 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: this dude is crazy, but I respected it was when 780 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: you used to do like your pitch to become an 781 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: NBA All Star. I mean all done. Now you're in 782 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: the loving time All Star. But you really used to 783 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: do your little pictures and act. And where did that 784 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: ship come from? Because that ship used to have me roll? 785 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: You know what it was, bro, not boredom. I don't 786 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: want to say boredom, but to be honest, the only 787 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: reason I had that idea. Times weren't like they are now. Um. 788 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 1: The voting system for All Star was just a little different. 789 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: So if you played, which is still the same now, 790 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: but if you played in a certain area, you're more 791 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: likely to get votes, right, um. And I always at 792 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: the time, I thought that Toronto was gonna be able. 793 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: I thought everybody was given Toronto a tough time, you know. 794 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: And then I remember looking, I'm trying to be an 795 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: All Star of that year, and I'm looking at the numbers, 796 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: and I mean, KG and Brian there, their voting numbers 797 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: are just it's another level of superstartup, you know what 798 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And all I only did that just to 799 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: kind of bring the votes up and make it a 800 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: little closer because it was embarrassing being way and third 801 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: way and third Bro. But like I always, like, I 802 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: always messed with the camera, always did videos and stuff, 803 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 1: and you know, just my brother and my friends. We'd 804 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: always make each other laugh and do do not crazy 805 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: crazy stuff, but you know, funny ship and you know, 806 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: really just to have a good time man. And and really, 807 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean another huge influence on me was like me 808 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: and my dad and my brother, we would watch and 809 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: Living Color every Sunday night, were watching Living Color, and 810 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: we watched the Star Trek the Next Generation and then 811 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: the old School Start Track with with William Shatner, you 812 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and Richard Nimore and we would 813 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: we would sit there and our favorite, of course, I 814 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: was watching and Living Color and watching those dudes. I 815 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: mean that was kind of like the early influence. Yeah, 816 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: and so I always love that stuff, you know, and 817 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: that was pretty much just like my imitation of it, 818 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: Slam Duck Chimp the East Bay funk is born. Talk 819 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: to us about that, bro, I've been doing that Dunchin's 820 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: like nith grade, you know what I mean. I was 821 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: doing that Dunke grade. So it was just soft from 822 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: from way back for me. Everybody was doing Dominique Jordan's, 823 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: you know, doing their dunks. So you know, one day 824 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: I tried and got close. So I was like oh 825 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have that, and then I had it in 826 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: like a week. So I was doing like people that 827 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: know me go old school with me, that went to 828 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: school with me. No, I've been doing that dunk. It's 829 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: like fourteen fifteen, you know what I mean, the Boys 830 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: Club dunk contest, Chris Mullan when you played for the 831 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: Warrior Judge the dunk contest when I was a youngster 832 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: at the Boys Club and I did that dunk. But 833 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: with that being said, I just kept it going, brought 834 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: it to college. You know, I freaked in college and 835 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 1: when the College Dunk contest and it was like, okay, 836 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then you know when 837 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: I got to the NBA stage, obviously went to a 838 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: tremendous level. Man, that's just old school. That's that neighborhood 839 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: and stuff. You know what I mean. I mean, he 840 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: was going to you was going between the legs and 841 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you said in in 842 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: high school and then in the pros, you did it. 843 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: What do you think about the creativity? So you know, 844 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: to this point, because all these dunks have been done, 845 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So you gotta come with 846 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: some crazy ship now to make a way. But these 847 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,479 Speaker 1: kids are coming with that crazy ship and making away. 848 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on to being a former slam 849 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: dunk champ? So, I want a lot right since ninety three, right, 850 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: people have been going between Let was cold Evince Brian, 851 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: you know Brian never been but other dudes, you know, 852 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: it was going between the legs. And I was like, man, 853 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: this is crazy j Rich and you know I just 854 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: this us. I was like, are you kidding me right now? 855 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: I mean, these dudes, we're doing some crazy stuff, man, 856 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: and still doing crazy stuff. So to me, the evolution 857 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: of the dunk. Like, So I didn't practice dunks, you 858 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I didn't. I didn't you know 859 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: the first dunt dunk said the second. I didn't go 860 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: out there. I don't have a routine. I don't know 861 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: what else gonna do. I hadn't practice no dunks, you 862 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Need coming up in high school, 863 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: you know, everybody had to bouncing ones and we we 864 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: dunked out, you know what I mean? Here On Minor 865 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: used to go at it in high school and so 866 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: we do. And we heard that name in a minute. Yeah, 867 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: we hused to go out of high school. I mean 868 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: Southern cow local. We we yeah, we had a roll 869 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: and without getting said practice, we just went off the cuff. 870 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: So now dudes is taken behind the back, taking you know, 871 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: practice and looking at pro dunkers, taking time, getting the 872 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: time and getting advice from dudes, you know what I mean, 873 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: and going in the lab and getting major dunks off, 874 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I just look at 875 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: it like the evolution is incredible, man. I mean just 876 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: to go from a simple baseline between the lads too. 877 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: At the end of my dunk contest, so I used 878 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: to throw it up to and into my dunk contest, 879 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Sean Kemp like they wanted to doing 880 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: more dunk. I'm like, man, I'm gonna throw it up, 881 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: go off verse and throw it between legs and Antonio 882 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: and David like, man, you're good that out said, Like 883 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: all right, so I wouldn't did something else. With that 884 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: being said, I look at it now, like, man, they're 885 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: going behind the back, off the backward. It's incredible. Man, 886 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm at all you know what I mean When I 887 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: see these dudes, you know what I mean? With that 888 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 1: being said, man, I think Aaron Goring went Aaron Gordon 889 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: want the Dunk contest. It's been getting two times something, man, 890 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: baby with two man, they ain't any stuff doing that 891 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: to that kid. How you feel about that, that Dunk 892 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: being named the jail riding Like every time I see 893 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: somebody do it, I ain't somebody to talk about it 894 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: between the legs like I'm gonna try to jail riding 895 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: like that. That that astual Dunk is basically named after you. Now, man, say, 896 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that because I was starting to 897 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: think otherwise because the NBA don't give me no prost. Man. 898 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: You know, the real was no man, the real was 899 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: no doubt. My goodness. Man. Look the bottom line, they're 900 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: doing it way better than the original now, but they 901 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: still home with the legs and win the Dunk contest 902 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: in brond Isn't that you mean? That dunk has lasted 903 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: a long thirty years? Man? You know what? And that's 904 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: me behind me. So with that being said, look, I 905 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: feel I'm glad you see that because when I'm around people, 906 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: I don't I don't. I don't hear that much. I 907 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: just see him saying. So I'm around a lot of 908 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: kids and we're getting over so they might they might 909 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: just say that East Bad funked him and not even 910 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: though I'm right there you you know what story, I 911 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: want to shout you out and everyone involved. It was 912 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: in the process of changing the All Star Game that 913 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: ship was amazing. Ship was amazing, the competition level, the excitement, um, 914 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: the quality of play, Like, I really want to tip 915 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: my hat to you, bro, especially because you brought life 916 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: back because that that that game was all life support, 917 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: real talk and you and whoever helped you come up 918 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: with the idea. UM, definitely a shout out to you. 919 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: But tell me how that came about, because I know 920 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 1: you were very integral and that happening. That's crazy because 921 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be forgetting about that sometimes. It's funny 922 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: that even even the whole thing adoring the draft, how 923 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: you draft now? Right as far as the All Star Game, 924 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: uh me, Michelle robertson Adam and their team, we actually 925 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: came up with that idea too. And the reasoning behind 926 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: that was, like, I've been blessed to playing all these 927 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: All Star of games, but I felt like I was 928 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: playing with the same guys year in a year out. Yeah, 929 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: so I was, and I'm always looking at it from 930 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: a fan perspective. So the funniest thing is that I 931 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: actually sort of came up with that idea, but I 932 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: never made an All Star game to play an it 933 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: since right, right, right, since coming up with that idea, 934 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: I had made an All Star game to play in it. 935 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: And so last year, the TVT tournament that comes on 936 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: right during the summer, the championship games in Chicago. I'm 937 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: a big fan, had a team in the tv T. 938 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: I was at the game and it was crazy. It 939 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: was crazy or how your state won the championship. So 940 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: after the game, I called Adam, Well, I think before 941 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: the game, I called Adam and I was like, Adam, 942 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: you should watch this game, watch the TVT. I think 943 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: we should try to introduce it into the All Star Game. 944 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: Adam watched it. We talked about it, you know, for 945 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: a while for a while for a while, and then, um, 946 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, when we unfortunately lost our brother Kobe or whatnot, 947 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: me and Adam talked again about how to sort of 948 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: switch it up a little bit to honor Kobe at 949 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: the same time. And then what was even better was 950 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: that I finally made the All Star Game, right, which 951 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know that was gonna happen. And you know me, Maddie, 952 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm I'm crazy competitive. So yeah, time man listen and 953 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 1: that that's That's one of the biggest things I miss 954 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: about Cobe and not getting that opportunity to play with 955 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: him when the trade stuff happen, is that I was there. 956 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: They blocked that ship. I couldn't believe. Remember what I 957 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: was talking to you, you were talking to me and Code. 958 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, what You're gonna fucking love l A. 959 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: There's nothing like being a Laker. Next day, I know 960 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: they blocked David Stern blocks the trade. They said it's 961 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: over for that. That was crazy. That was crazy. But 962 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: the crazy part about the All Star Games is that 963 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: me and Cole used to always say we won't lose 964 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: because I st that. Yeah, we used to beat the 965 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: hell out of people. And the thing was, you know, 966 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: fans would be like, oh, the game wasn't good, and 967 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: we'd be like, well, we just gonna teach you all 968 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: that gonna do. But told us, he told you, he 969 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: said he would look over at you would be like, CP, 970 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: let's go every time man, listen. All Star Game two 971 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 1: thousand nine in Phoenix, y'all should look back and see 972 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: what the score was. We beat them so bad. We 973 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: we want to so bad. And I never forget it 974 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: because Phil Jackson was the coach right and I remember 975 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: coming in the locker room for the All Star game. 976 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: Usually All Star game locker room its chills, like Shock 977 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: was on the team, Shock the wilder in the locker room. 978 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: Man Phil Jackson coming there and he was like, Paul, 979 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: what does Irison like to do? I was like, Yeah, 980 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: what's going on this All Star game? Phil Jackson, he 981 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 1: coached that game. We went out there and we sort 982 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: of play almost like it was man and man. But 983 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: if somebody had the ball on the right wing, he 984 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: was shipped like Kyl Gasol had to come over to 985 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: the elbow, so it looked like his zone right. Somebody's 986 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: researched figure out what the score was because Braun and 987 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: d Waden was oh mad during the game. It was 988 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: it was like I was gonna play his own We 989 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: water him up. That's what's something. No man shout out 990 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: to Kobe, but no tell but tell us, just tell 991 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: us about how it finally came about, like I said, 992 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: and just how you guys felt his players out there, 993 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: because like I said, you got that fourth quarter was unbelievable. 994 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 1: Tell what's that was like? So um first and foremost 995 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: your honest you know, he got that mentality too. And 996 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: you know all Star games. This is what's tricky too. 997 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: You know all Star game when somebody drive down the 998 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: lane to dunk, everybody usually do what move out the 999 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: way right because don't nobodyn't want to get hurt. Don't 1000 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: nobody want to do nothing, So you're honest and smart. 1001 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: He just kept driving. Everybody moved out the way. So 1002 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: I told us in the huddle, I said, oh, hell no, 1003 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: this that ain't gonna work. That ain't gonna work because 1004 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: he know he can just score every time if if 1005 00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna move and so I mean all game long, 1006 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Jay Kid then was 1007 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: over there and all that because it was our assistant coaches, 1008 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah that we we gotta go 1009 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: because the way it was set up too. If somebody 1010 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: gets a lead too big, then you in trouble in 1011 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Man and and the dopest part two 1012 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: and I shout out to coach Vogel for letting me 1013 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: play is that usually to end the game, the starters 1014 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 1: usually in the game, you had such a big effect 1015 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: to me. You were in definitely in the All Star 1016 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: the m v p uh conversation. You had a hell 1017 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: of a game. Man. But you know what I told 1018 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: Coach Vogo before the game, and he dun the mothercker 1019 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: got a dunk. Yeah, keep that low, stack, keep that low. 1020 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 1: He looked up. This is what I told Coach Vogel 1021 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: for the for the game, but people probably don't even realize. 1022 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: I told him in the locker room. I said, listen, coach, 1023 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,919 Speaker 1: I ain't wanted them dudes to be like, I don't 1024 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: want to play and save me for the second half 1025 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: of the season. I want to hoot. I told him that. 1026 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: I told him that. I said, don't be treating me 1027 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: like the old guy over here that just want to rest, 1028 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: even though you oldest, go ahead, Hey, you only as 1029 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: old as a mentor that's met. Hey, Hey, listen, I 1030 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 1: told him that, and so I appreciate him for respecting 1031 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 1: that because not not losing out now, you guys brought 1032 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: it back and we appreciate it. We were there. What's 1033 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: the most memorable moment of your second year? Most memorable 1034 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: moment has to be All Star, All Star Weekend being 1035 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: in the All Star Game starting. I saw it. I 1036 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: saw it on your face. Bro, we was down. I 1037 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: saw it all on your face. Yeah, I was. I 1038 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: was excited, did it? Man? I ain't gonna lie. I don't. 1039 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't get nervous like I always get anxious for games, 1040 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: like I'm just ready to play, like I'm just ready 1041 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: for it to go. But I ain't know a lot. 1042 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: All Start night was the first night in a long 1043 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: time that I was like, all right, man, like, I'm 1044 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: kind of man like, this is, this is I'm starting 1045 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: to like. I think it's a difference than being just 1046 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: a just an All Start and the starter too, It's like, uh, 1047 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 1: it's a different feeling. So for me, I was just 1048 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 1: ready to go out there and put on the show 1049 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 1: and have fun. And for me to be my second years, 1050 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: it's a it's a blessing the people that have been 1051 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: around for sure, No congrats man, like you said to 1052 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: to to get voted in to be a starter is 1053 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: a whole another level, especially in your second year with however, 1054 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many talented guards now you mean, 1055 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: there's so many talented guards, So for you to be 1056 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: on the scene as your second year as a starter. Man. 1057 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: That's definitely hats off to all the hard work you 1058 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: put in, man, what you've been able to accomplish. I 1059 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: appreciate that. If you can go back, maybe before you're born, 1060 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: maybe just before you got to the league and sit 1061 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: courtside to watch any two superstars go out, and what 1062 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: would that matchup be towards any two superstars? Um, good question. 1063 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't watch that All Star game when Jordan and 1064 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: Kobe played against each other. Was that Kobe's first second 1065 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: All Star game? That was his job showed out? Yeah, 1066 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 1: that was his first one. They went out his first 1067 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: that would have been This is All a Smoke, a 1068 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: production of The Black Effect and Our Heart Radio in 1069 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: partnership with Showtime