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Speaker 1: Hey listeners, Niminy here, host of historical records. Get ready

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Speaker 1: to hear about a historical hero through hip hop. Also,

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Speaker 1: parents and teachers, You can download a free activity related

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Speaker 1: Historical records, and now onto the show. After a few

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Speaker 1: words for the grown ups, Hey listeners, niminy here. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm just running a little late the whole time, and

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Speaker 1: we should be there any second. Where is it? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know it's here, somewhere in this huge and uninviting desert.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, there's a normal cactus. Hor the normal cactus.

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Speaker 1: We're here, my mostly underground, top secretory. I mean, nothing

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Speaker 1: to say here in this big empty desert. Certainly not

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Speaker 1: a highly secure state of the art.

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Speaker 2: Door. Hello, hello, door, Please pass word?

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Speaker 1: Yes the password that I definitely remember. Don't worry everybody.

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Speaker 1: I know the password.

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Speaker 2: It's bucklover incorrect.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bag it incorrect. Well, I know it's something delicious

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Speaker 1: that starts with the letter B. How about BONDI but

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Speaker 1: joy blenched black words with breest beets on buttered banana? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Got it? Wait which one was it?

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Speaker 3: Entry?

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Speaker 1: Granted? Well figure it out next time. It's historical.

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Speaker 2: You are now listening to It's.

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Speaker 1: To make history. You got to have struggles to make history.

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Speaker 1: You got to show poise. Cannot be quiet loud as

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Speaker 1: the riot to make history. You gotta make some noise. Well, listeners,

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Speaker 1: we're in. Let's try this again. Hello. I am Mimony.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to my secret laboratory, a place where I am

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Speaker 1: conducting highly experimental experiments turning history into hip hop. You see,

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Speaker 1: I study historical records so I can drop historical records

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Speaker 1: and get it. And today's episode is about an incredible

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Speaker 1: woman who is the mother of investigative journalism and a

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Speaker 1: trailblazing muckraker who toppled monopolies, Ida Tarbell. Much more on

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Speaker 1: that later, but first I want to give you a

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Speaker 1: tour of my lab. This place has every single history

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Speaker 1: and hip hop loving podcast host could possible. Oh like

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Speaker 1: this room. This is the vocal booth echo chamber, in

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Speaker 1: case you're making music and want to say something really important.

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Speaker 1: What limony is cool? Cool? All echo boots. The echo

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Speaker 1: booth is also great for personal affirmations. And over here

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Speaker 1: in this room is where I keep all the musical notes.

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Speaker 1: Little to organize at the moment, but sometimes you can find.

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Speaker 4: You need.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Well, let's keep walking. I'll clean that up later.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me. Oh, this next room is where my hypeman

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Speaker 1: hangs out. Just wait till you see how fired up

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Speaker 1: this guy is. Now people say what. I'm sorry, You're

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Speaker 1: hired to hype people up, not to be asleep. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: you're better than this, Phil, you know what.

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Speaker 2: My bad, My bad?

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Speaker 1: That was foods bad. Now we're talking ficky bye. Okay,

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Speaker 1: continuing the tour. This state of the art studio filled

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Speaker 1: with raccoons playing drums is where I make the beats. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's where the raccoons make the beats. How are the

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Speaker 1: beats coming, tina?

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Speaker 5: Ooh that's not good.

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Speaker 1: You think we'll still hit the deadline? Betina, I need

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Speaker 1: a sick be in like fifteen minutes. I have some

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Speaker 1: amazing rappers and singers coming to lay down the track.

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Speaker 1: Get it done, sorry, listeners. If there's one thing raccoons

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Speaker 1: do not like, it's deadlines. Anyway, We're about to enter

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Speaker 1: the history portion of the tour, and things are going

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Speaker 1: to get a little personal because the first room contains

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Speaker 1: my personal history. See here are my baby clothes, my

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Speaker 1: old baseball uniforms. Oh the picture of me starring in himlin. Oh, Niminy,

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Speaker 1: look at you being design own self?

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Speaker 2: True way.

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Speaker 1: What is this? It's a tape labeled Niminy's first rap ever. Oh,

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Speaker 1: let's listen. Hello everyone, let me introduce me. My name

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Speaker 1: means charming. I have Nimmini. I like hip hop as

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Speaker 1: you can play in the least seat, but my favorite

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Speaker 1: subject is his covery. What my first rap was about

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Speaker 1: history and hip hop. I guess it's always been my

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Speaker 1: destiny to combine my two great passions in to one

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Speaker 1: killer podcast. Okay, listeners, I normally would not recommend running

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Speaker 1: from your past, but we're short on time, so let's

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Speaker 1: keep moving now. I don't want to overhype it, but

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Speaker 1: this next room is incredible because it contains every history

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Speaker 1: book that has ever been written. It's like the Internet,

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Speaker 1: but maser. This is a historical records library. As you

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Speaker 1: can see, it's giant. But don't worry. You can get

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Speaker 1: to any book using this incredibly fast and elaborate train

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Speaker 1: track and trolley's system that I built. Watch, hold on tight,

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Speaker 1: what and what first? Over here we have cultural history,

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Speaker 1: here is histories mysteries, not sure where exactly. Oh, and

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Speaker 1: And that's just a taste of what the library has

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Speaker 1: to offer. It's pretty amazing, I know. And making it

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Speaker 1: even cooler is the fact that I hire two historians

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Speaker 1: who now live here in the library. They help break

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Speaker 1: although sometimes the historians can be a little hard to

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Speaker 3: Is so huge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Nimini, how long.

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Speaker 1: Have you been sitting in this trolley car?

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Speaker 2: The entire time? I just didn't want to interrupt you

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Speaker 2: because you're really on a roll.

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Speaker 1: Well, even though I prefer you never sneak up on

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Speaker 1: me like that, I must admit your timing is impeccable.

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Speaker 2: Let me guess you're ready to learn about Aida Tarbell?

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Speaker 2: How did you know? As always, I did my research.

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Speaker 1: Wellie, if I'm gonna make a killer track that encapsulates

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Speaker 1: Ida Tarbell's whole life, no big deal at all. What

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Speaker 2: Well, Nimini, There is a lot to know about Aida Tarbell,

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Speaker 2: but the main, most important thing is that she was

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Speaker 2: a writer and a journalist who basically invented investigative journalism

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Speaker 1: Hold on, wait, what what's happening.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking you to the other side of the library,

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Speaker 2: to the history simulator.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha. Now, obviously I know what investigative journalism is. But

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Speaker 1: for those who don't, what is investigative journalism? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So investigative journalism is when a journalist chooses a

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Speaker 2: topic which is usually something sort of scandalous, like a

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Speaker 1: Simple.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and they spend months or sometimes even years, doing

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Speaker 2: all sorts of research in order to find facts that

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Speaker 1: Whoa, this is the history simulator. It looks like a

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Speaker 1: I'm a historian, not a scientist.

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Speaker 2: I had the raccoons to it, Lea.

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Speaker 1: That's why they're running behind on making the beats, and

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Speaker 1: why so much of this machine seems to be made

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Speaker 2: Yeah, try not to breathe through your nose, but trust me,

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Speaker 2: this is gonna be worth it. Can you hit that

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Speaker 1: Button, the one that says time travel with two exclamation points,

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Speaker 1: that's the one I would love to Here we go?

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Speaker 1: What welcome to?

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Speaker 2: This is a gilded age, specifically the year nineteen oh four.

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Speaker 1: Whose house are we in?

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Speaker 2: Are a tarbells?

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Speaker 1: Of course?

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Speaker 2: Have a seat?

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Speaker 1: Wow, these old timey armchairs are comfortable. Why are all

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Speaker 1: those magazines on the coffee table ripped up?

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Speaker 2: That is this month's issue of McClure's magazine. It's supposed

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Speaker 2: to be a reliable source of news, but newsflash, it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's totally exaggerated, sensationalized, and made to be as melodramatic

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Speaker 1: That doesn't seem good, that's because it's not.

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Speaker 2: But that is about to change. This new group of journalists,

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Speaker 2: these muckrakers as they call them, led by Aida Tarbell,

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Speaker 2: are using the power of the pen to tell the truth.

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Speaker 2: And tonight, right here Ada will put the finishing touches

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Speaker 2: on the final installment of her nineteen part epic series

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Speaker 2: that exposes the corruption and unethical practices behind one of

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Speaker 2: the largest and most powerful businesses of our time, the

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Speaker 2: Standard Oil company.

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Speaker 1: Ida Tarbell is going up against Standard Oil? Why was

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Speaker 1: she doing that? Like? What was their deal? Who ran

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Speaker 1: Standard Oil? And why were they so bad?

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Speaker 2: Great questions, Let's go check it out. Hit the button.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love buttons. Wow, this is a fancy office.

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Speaker 2: You bet it is. Welcome to Standard Oil. A company

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Speaker 2: that became a monopoly. Have you heard that word before? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Oh I love that game. No, No, not the game.

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Speaker 2: A company has a monopoly when they pretty much wipe

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Speaker 1: That's bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's good for them, but bad for everyone else

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Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons. Like what Well, for example,

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Speaker 2: a company with no competitors can charge people whatever price

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Speaker 2: they want. And with that kind of power, how much

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Speaker 2: do you think they're going to charge? A whole lot?

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Speaker 1: That's what I would do.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you did that, you might end up like

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Speaker 2: John D. Rockefeller, the owner of this office, the person

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Speaker 1: Rich fill their pockets while the poor getting filled with

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Speaker 2: Day to day in the Gilded Age precisely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got Ida Tarbo, this normal woman who

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Speaker 1: just invented investigative journalism on one side of the coin,

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Speaker 1: and on the other side, we've got this rich billionaire,

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Speaker 1: John D. Rockefeller, the owner of Standard Oil. How the

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Speaker 1: heck is Ida Tarbell gonna take down such a huge tycoon?

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Speaker 2: Let's go see.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, does that mean I can press the button again?

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Speaker 2: Go for it?

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Speaker 1: Button time? Whoa Montagh alert? Look at Ida traveling all

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Speaker 1: around the country. What's she doing? Research?

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Speaker 2: She spent years traveling around the country interviewing anyone who

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, ma'am, I'm Ida Tarbelle with McClure's magazine.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if I might ask you some questions.

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Speaker 2: And she spent hours and hours in my favorite place,

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Speaker 2: the library, digging through hundreds and even thousands of documents

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Speaker 2: in order to find evidence of John D. Rockefeller's wrongdoing him.

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Speaker 4: The library is closing, Tarbell.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, I just need to finish reading this one document, huh.

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Speaker 1: I see, Ida as a writer was tenacious, audacious. Her

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Speaker 1: appetite for research was voracious. Let's face it.

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Speaker 2: Then, All of her writing was published in McClure's magazine.

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Speaker 2: The articles were so popular that they were turned into

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Speaker 2: an even more popular book. All this attention on Rockefeller's

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Speaker 2: greedy business dealings made it all the way to wait

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Speaker 2: for it, the Supreme Court of the United States, only

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Speaker 2: the highest core in the whole land.

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Speaker 1: And what did they decide?

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Speaker 2: They found that Standard Oil was in fact an illegal monopoly. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I did, and they ordered that Standard Oil be broken

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Speaker 2: up into get this, thirty four different companies.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Rockefeller got busted.

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Speaker 2: You sure did. In fact, trust busting is what everyone called,

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Speaker 1: Lee. With a clear objective and a belief in yourself,

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Speaker 2: I think you phrased that really beautifully. In fact, can

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Speaker 2: She said, imagination is the only key to the future.

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Speaker 1: for these ages. And here we are. Hello, Recon, Hey Dina,

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Speaker 3: Let's begin. Shall we open your mind and imagine the

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Speaker 6: Last name Tarbell, first name Ida, lifting up the league.

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Speaker 7: And suring off an indelism time where breaking all the puck.

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Speaker 4: I always stay impartial.

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Speaker 3: Printing, not the meat like a prime, it's sure enough.

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Speaker 1: Next expo, we got ourselves a showdown. Now you could

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Speaker 3: Night is on the case, learning anything she can learn documents, photographs.

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Speaker 4: I've even talked to inter the biggest breaker.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's bad news.

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Speaker 3: The series came in nineteen parts of Standard Oil's history, Backroom.

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Speaker 7: It's suing off nine systems are well, breaking all the musks.

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Speaker 6: People's trusting journalists adjusted, and the huckster Rockefeller lost his luster, britting.

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Speaker 4: I guess I wasn't always so impartial.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she really did.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 4: Can we agree you had it coming?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 4: Eh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was corrupted. I didn't correct thing it coming.

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Speaker 1: words for the grown ups. Yes, what a jam, Tina,

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Speaker 7: I am super supportive, supportive, supportive.

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Speaker 4: Oh my alarm.

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Speaker 1: Oh that means I'm late for today's interview.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna interview me, Phil the hype Man?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, Phil, am I interviewing you?

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Speaker 1: Misunderstanding? Hanging in? No, no, no, Tina, I am not

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Speaker 1: get to listen in. Well, well, what, please explain yourself? Well, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Ida Tarbell is amazing, but I thought it would be

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Speaker 1: Watch this.

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Speaker 2: Uh it looks like you're just logging into zoom.

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Speaker 1: Phil make it hi or something. Come on, Oh right, sorry,

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Speaker 2: Who look at that?

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Speaker 1: Everyone is here. Hi, Sophia, Hi Susan. Why don't we

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Speaker 5: I'm Sophia. I'm twelve years old. I love Denver, Colorado.

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Speaker 2: I'm Susan Orlean.

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Speaker 8: I'm a staff writer at the New Yorker magazine, and

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Speaker 8: I'm the author of eight books. I've been writing ever

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Speaker 1: What do you find interesting about Ida Tarbell?

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Speaker 8: One of the things that I found really interesting about Ida,

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Speaker 1: Who, Sophia. Do you have any questions for Susan about

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Speaker 5: One of the things that I've noticed is whenever you're

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Speaker 5: Bye, Susan, this was such a wonderful opportunity.

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Speaker 4: Sophia, I love talking to you.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much, and I hope we'll be in touch.

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Speaker 1: Oh, how awesome was that interview. Sophia had such amazing

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Speaker 1: questions and really excellent insight, and Susan orlean while I

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Speaker 1: could listen to her talk about anything. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: think I might go read one of her books. Ah,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I'm adding back to the library. Listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining in today and for going on a

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Speaker 1: journey with me to learn about the great Ida Tarbo.

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Speaker 1: And a huge thanks to today's guests Susan, Sophia, Carly

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Speaker 1: and Mosiah. Remember, parents and teachers. You can download a

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Speaker 1: free activity related to today's episode by visiting story pirates

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Historical Records. We'll be back next week

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Speaker 1: with another episode, another song, and another hero. After all,

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Speaker 1: Sue's gotta make more historical records and soil. Then remember,

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Speaker 1: to make history, you gotta make some noise. Bye.

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Speaker 9: Historical Record is produced in partnership with story Pirates Studios,

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Speaker 9: Questlove's two on five Entertainment, John Glickman and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 9: Executive produced by Emir Questlove, Thompson, John Glickman, Leovertree and

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Speaker 9: Benjamin Salga. Executive produced for I Hard Podcasts by Noel Brown.

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Speaker 9: Producers for story Pirate Studios are Isabelle Aricchio, Sam Bear,

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Speaker 9: Eric Gerson, Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney and Niminy Ware.

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Speaker 9: Producers for two one five are Sean g Britney Benjamin,

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Speaker 9: and Sarah Zolman, hosted by niminy Ware. Our head writer

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Speaker 9: is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polus.

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Speaker 9: Music supervision for two one five by Stroe Elliott. Scoring

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Speaker 9: and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Gerson.

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Speaker 9: Sound design and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic

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Speaker 9: Room in New York City. Song mastering by Josh Han,

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Speaker 9: Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Gerson and produced

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Speaker 9: by Eric Erson. Production coordination by Isabelle Arichio production management

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Speaker 9: by Maggie Lee. The line producer for Story Pired Studios

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Speaker 9: is Glennis Brault. Pr for Story Pired Studios is provided

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Speaker 9: by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork by Camilla Franklin. This episode

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Speaker 9: was written by Duke Doyle. The song Ida Tarbell was

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Speaker 9: written by Dan Foster and produced by Mosiah with additional

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Speaker 9: production by Eric Gerson. Vocal direction by Jack Mitchell and

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Speaker 9: Eric Gerson. Special guest Susan Orlean, Mosiah, Carly Shiraki and

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Speaker 9: Our Kid interviewer Sophia. This episode features performances by Eric Gerson,

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Speaker 9: Peter McNerney, Lee Overtree, and Lee Polis,