1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. It's Tuesday, the thirtieth of January in London. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Daybreak euro A podcast. I'm Stephen Carroll. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Coming up today, the United States weighs how far to 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: go and responding to Iran and its proxies after three 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: soldiers were killed in Jordan after a two year standoff, 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: a deal is struck to restore power sharing in Northern Ireland. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Plus the Path to Power, we have a special report 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: looking at White Labour's UK election prospects, hinge on winning 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: over older, richer voters. Let's start with a round up 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: of our top stories. The United States is said to 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: be looking for a response to the deadly attack on 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: its troops in Jordan. That's tough enough to deter Iran 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: and its proxies without sparking a direct war. That's according 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: to officials and experts who've been speaking to Bloomberg. President 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is facing mounting political pressure to respond forcefully 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: to the drone assault, which killed three US soldiers and 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: wounded dozens of others. US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: says the US wants to prevent the Middle East conflict 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: from spreading, but will respond strongly to the attack. 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: To anyone who would try to use the crisis in 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: the Middle East, the conflict in the Middle East, to 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: so further instability, and to use it as an excuse 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: to attack our personnel, we will respond. We will respond strongly. 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: We will respond at a time in place of our choosing. 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: Ashley B. 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Lincoln's comments come after a source familiar with the Biden 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: administration's position told Bloomberg the US response would be stronger 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: than its most recent retaliations against Iranian proxies. The view 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: underlines the risks of further escalation in a conflict that's 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: already spread from Gaza across the Middle East. Israeli intelligence 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: has claimed that up to ten percent of the UN 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: Relief Agency's twelve thousand workers in Gaza were members of 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: the militant groups Hamas and Palestelian Islamic Jihad. The assessment 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: seen by Bloomberg also alleges that six employees with the 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: UN Relief and Works Agency infiltrated Israeli territory during the 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: deadly October seventh attack. The report comes after the unise 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: its Nations fired several UNRUAS staffers last week in response 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: to the initial claim from Israel. The US, UK and 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: others have suspended funding for the agency, while the UN 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: says there will be an urgent and comprehensive independent review. 41 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: The sell off on Chinese stock markets is resumed, giving 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: a clear signal to policymakers that more steps will be 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: needed to revive investor confidence. The liquidation of the Evergrand Group, 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: once the country's top developer, has intensified concerns about the 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: property sector. Investco's investment director William Yuen says sellers are 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: overlooking the more positive outlook over. 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: The last two months. It has been a noticeable pickup 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: in terms of FISCO support monetary support, and that I 49 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: think with such a large economy as is China, it 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 4: takes time to foot it down to all positive economy. 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: So I do expect that after the Lunar period probably 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: numbers will looked a lot more better. 53 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Despite UN's optimism, the ten year government bond yield in 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: China's led to the lowest point in twenty two years 55 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: as investors fled to haven ascid. The move suggests that 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: some traders are expecting government stimulus on the horizon. Northern 57 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party has agreed to end its boycott 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: of the region's power sharing Assembly, ending two years of 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: political stalemate. The DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson says his party's 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: return to Storm and his contingent on the UK government 61 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: passing a new law reducing the impact of post bregsit 62 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: trade rules. He says recent talks, which included a promise 63 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: of three point three billion pounds of funding, led to 64 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: significant progress. 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 5: We recognize that significant further advances have been achieved through 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 5: these negotiations. This package, I believe safeguards Northern Ireland's place 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 5: in the Union and will restore our place within the 68 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: UK internal market. 69 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Donaldson's comments marked the end of the DUP blockade, which 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: dates back to February twenty twenty two, when the party 71 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: withdrew from the Storm and Assembly arguing that Boris Johnson's 72 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Brexit deal undermined Northern Ireland's place in the UK. Members 73 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: of the party are still likely to oppose the move. 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: France's Prime Minister is promising fresh support for the country's 75 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: farmers as protesters continue to block motorways around Paris. Bloombergs 76 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: tewa Adebayo has the details. 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: Tractors are blocking key routes into the French capital as 78 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: farming unions continue to call for more support in the 79 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: face of higher production costs and stringent regulations. The protests 80 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: began more than a week ago. Concessions from the government, 81 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: including reversing a tax hike on farming fuel, haven't helped 82 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: to ease farmers concerns. France's Prime Minister, Gabrielle latal is 83 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: set to announce more plans for the sector in a 84 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: speech to parliament later, while the country's Interior minister says 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 3: some fifteen thousand police officers are being deployed to stop 86 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: tractors entering Paris and other major cities In London tiwa 87 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: Adebayo Bloomberg Radio. 88 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: Here. 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: In the UK, shop price inflation is at its lowest 90 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: rate in more than a year as retailers compete for customers. 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: The British Retail Consortium's indexes prices two point nine percent 92 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: higher year on year. Bloombergs James Wilcock has the details. 93 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 6: The crucial Christmas shopping period was weaker than many on 94 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 6: the high street had hoped for. Now Britain's retail sector 95 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 6: is scrambling for customers by offering heavy discounts. It's positive 96 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 6: news for inflation watching economists, but not without a cost. 97 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 6: Fashion brands. Super Dry is one of those hit hard 98 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 6: by the cost of living crisis and weak sales. Its 99 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 6: share price has fallen eighty nine percent in the last year. 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 6: In London, James Wilcock, Bloombergradier. 101 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: And Elon Mask says the first human patient has received 102 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: his Neuralink brain implant. The news comes after the Tesla 103 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: founder previously predicted surgery in a human head using his 104 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: device by the end of twenty nineteen. Bloomberg's head Baxter 105 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: has the story. 106 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 7: Mask says this is a significant step forward for the company. 107 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 7: He says it aims to one day let humans control 108 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 7: computers with their minds. He's posted that the patient is 109 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 7: recovering well and that the initial results of the procedure 110 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 7: are promising. 111 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: Now. 112 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 7: The first goal for Neuralink is to help people with 113 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 7: traumatic injuries to operate computers with only their thoughts, and 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 7: to help patients with conditions from cervical spinal cord injury 115 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 7: to als. It does have FDA clearance for the trials. 116 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 7: Ed Baxter Bloomberg Radio. 117 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, in a moment, we'll get more on the dilemma 118 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: facing the US President on responding to that attack on 119 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: soldiers and Jordan. Plus we're going to bring in more 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: details of Bloomberg's latest analysis of the electoral map here 121 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: in the UK with an eye on the next general election. 122 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: But just worth reflecting for a moment on that news 123 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: out of Elon Musk's Neuralink that they have it received 124 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: that first implant, the first human receiving the implant and recovering. Well, 125 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: I mean, when the promises first came out that from 126 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Elon Musk that he planned on implanting a human with 127 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: this device, I think there was a fair amount of skepticism, 128 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: but certainly it is a very interesting development scientifically that 129 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: that implant has gone ahead. We're saying that a commercial 130 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: brain implant isn't imminent. There is one of the advisors 131 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: actually to Neuralink who says there's a danger of over 132 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: hyping this progress, speaking before this latest announcement from the company. 133 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: He said, this is Jamie Henderson. He says that he 134 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: is excited about technology and approved device is still years away, 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: but an interesting scientific development to note this morning as well. Well, 136 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: let's get more now in our top story, US President 137 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 1: Joe Biden weighing his response to the attack that kills 138 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: three soldiers in Jordan. He's under political pressure, as we've 139 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: been reporting, to respond forcefully, but officials are looking for 140 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: a way to avoid sparking direct warfare with Iran. Our 141 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: head of Middle Eastern North Africa covers Stuart Livingston wilst 142 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: joins US Now for more. Stuart, good morning to you. 143 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: What do we know about the options being considered now 144 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: by the Biden administration. 145 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, good morning. The short answer is none of them 146 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 8: are particularly good, at least from the US perspective. So 147 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 8: it's clear from a semester politics point of view, he 148 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 8: has to do something. You know, he has to respond, 149 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 8: and I think also in terms of the US position 150 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 8: on the world stage, it's important there is some sort 151 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 8: of response. You can't ignore it. On the other hand, 152 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 8: he goes into strong and risk escalating what is already 153 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 8: a pretty dangerous situation, and I suppose, maybe more cynically, 154 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 8: bombs up the oil price in an election year, which 155 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 8: is never a great thing to do if you're running 156 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 8: for office again. But in terms of sort of the 157 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 8: practicalities of what he could do, I think the feeling 158 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 8: is the most likely target is probably Iranian assets outside 159 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 8: of Iran, in other words, avoid any visible attack on 160 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 8: Iranian territory. Now there are plenty of uniformed Iranian military 161 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 8: advisors in inverted commas are dotted around the region with 162 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 8: the proxies, so you could potentially go after those. Then 163 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 8: there's sort of the lower level stuff, or less visible, 164 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 8: I should say, which is sort of cyber warfare, collecting 165 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 8: intelligence and then starting to fund anti Iranian proxies of 166 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,119 Speaker 8: its own, in other words, fight the proxies with proxies. 167 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 8: But he'll have to do something fairly quickly. 168 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: I think how difficult a balancing act is this for 169 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the President alluded to some of the concerns there, but 170 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: he's under different forms of pressure from political constituencies in 171 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: the US but also the response being demanded in the region. 172 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, And I think it's been a very difficult 173 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 8: few months because, as you know, the US has spent 174 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 8: several years trying to get out of the Middle East 175 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 8: or at least wind down many of its operations. I mean, 176 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 8: it still has something like forty seven thousand troops stationed 177 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 8: around the region, so it's an awfully big drain on 178 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 8: its resources, and it can see what's happening in the Pacific, 179 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 8: you know, a build up of tensions there. He's sort 180 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 8: of already got a hot war going on in Ukraine. 181 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 8: The US has a really quiet, impressive military capability, but 182 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 8: it can't necessarily fight in three theater simultaneously. So I think, 183 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 8: you know, at least in the medium term, wh the 184 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 8: US moved to withdraw from the Middle East or at 185 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 8: least wind down in the Middle East, to continue that, 186 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 8: that feels inevitable. But in the short term, I think 187 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 8: you're probably going to see more resources being put into 188 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 8: the region, you know, more certainly more naval assets, and 189 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 8: I would suspect the capabilities that come with that, which 190 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 8: is broadly aircraft and missiles. 191 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: Sure, we're following other story from the region this morning too, 192 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: and this Israeli intelligence report saying that ten percent of 193 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: staff at the UN Relief and Works Agency and GAZA 194 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: were members of the militant groups Hamas and Palestinian Islamic 195 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: g HAD. What more can you tell us about that report? 196 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think it's going to be a 197 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 8: while before we get to the bottom of it. The 198 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 8: report itself, which I should stress we weren't able to 199 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 8: independently verify the claims in it. But yes, as you 200 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 8: say it, sort of it suggests that up to ten 201 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 8: percent of the group somehow implicated. We know that the 202 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 8: Secretary General of the UN is going to has asked, 203 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 8: has ordered an urgent review, but as you know, that 204 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 8: can take some time. But I've been thinking about the 205 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 8: short term impact. It is pretty much the only aid 206 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 8: operation going on in Gaza. So if we're in a 207 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 8: situation which has already happened where a lot of the 208 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 8: major downers have withdrawn funding, where we know there is 209 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 8: already issues with getting aid across the border, you know 210 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 8: the things don't bode well for the humanitarian situation in Gaza. 211 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: Okay Steward Livingston Wallace are head of Middle Eastern North 212 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: Africa coverage. Thank you very much for joining us this morning. 213 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: Let's turn to a story from the UK political landscape 214 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: next and the challenges facing the Labor Party if it 215 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: wants to win power at the next election. Bloomberg's been 216 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: analyzing Britain's new electoral map after recent revisions of constituency 217 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: boundaries to assess the key place that Labor places that 218 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Labor needs to win to secure a majority in the 219 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: next Parliament. Bloomberg's Amen Firehat has been analyzing this data 220 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: for US and he joins us now aim and talk 221 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: us through the analysis and the findings in this reporting. 222 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 9: Because of these new boundaries, you know, because of shifts 223 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 9: and populations every maybe ten years, it's been about fiften 224 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 9: years since the last one, they redraw the colliciency map 225 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 9: and now we know basically where the most winnable seats 226 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 9: are for Labor. That we know kind of what the 227 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 9: state of play is. It looks like not not too 228 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 9: surprising Scotland, the North, but actually all across the country 229 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 9: Labor needs to be able to win seats to try 230 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 9: and get into power. That's what we found. This is 231 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 9: a Railings and Thrasher analysis and about a national swing 232 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 9: of about twelve point seven percent is needed for this, 233 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 9: which would be a historic win. Obviously the polls are 234 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 9: way ahead of that, but still this is quite a 235 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 9: big challenge that's ahead for the Labor Party. 236 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: So what does it tell us then about how the 237 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: election will be fought and what the prospects are for Labor. 238 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 9: Yes, looking at these seats. So what we did is 239 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 9: we basically looked at the one hundred and twenty five 240 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 9: most winnable seats for Labor and that's actually the minimum 241 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 9: that they need to get a majority of one in Parliament. 242 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 9: And looking at those seats, it seems that Kisstarma has 243 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 9: to win over you know, much older, richer, whiter, you know, 244 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 9: more homeowners than you know, the base that was one 245 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 9: in Train nineteen, and it kind of pushes him to 246 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 9: maybe put forward policies or campaigning points that attract those 247 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 9: people more. That being seld, when I spoke to academics 248 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 9: and posters, they said, it's important that although he's delving 249 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 9: into out of his comfort zone into new areas, he 250 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 9: also doesn't want to maybe alienate his core voters. Obviously, 251 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 9: you know that the opinion polls really do put him 252 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 9: way way ahead, but that national, big leading opinion poll 253 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 9: doesn't always translate to every single little demographic that is 254 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 9: the older, you know, the white, or the more rural 255 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 9: voters that he needs to win and that this analysis 256 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 9: shows he needs to win. 257 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: This is a fascinating and detailed analysis and you can 258 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: read the details on Bloomberg dot com and of course 259 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: on the terminal as well. Aim and I'm wondering in 260 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: this research, were there any particular findings that surprised you. 261 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think when I was doing this research, I 262 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 9: basically kind of compared, for example, for older people, you know, 263 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 9: what does it look like in twenty nineteen, how old 264 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 9: was the average voter, What does it look like for 265 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 9: their target seats in twenty twenty four, And it seems 266 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 9: like in every demographic, whether it's age, ethnicity, you know 267 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 9: how many homeowners. Always seem that Kisama now has to 268 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 9: target voters who are more representative of the average British person. 269 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 9: In the past, Labor does very well in more urban 270 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 9: seats with the younger population, with graduates for example. Now 271 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 9: they really have to kind of win over the average 272 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 9: brit that is in slightly more oral stage still, you know, 273 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 9: fairly urban, a little bit older, more homeowners, and definitely 274 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 9: not not you know, it's not really the average London 275 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 9: seage that Kisdom has to win over. So that was 276 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 9: quite interesting that, you know, it's really is quite a 277 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 9: departure from the normal comfort zone for Labor. 278 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: And of course we're talking about this at a time 279 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: when the Labor Party has an absolutely huge leads in 280 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: the leads and the polls over twenty points in many 281 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: of the recent polls as well. Does this analysis this 282 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: is really going to cause pause for thought in labor headquarters, and. 283 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 9: Me, I think it's should. You know, when I spoke 284 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 9: to lots of these polses and academics, they said that, 285 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 9: of course the lead is huge, but things can change. 286 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 9: You know, there is also polling error, and they still 287 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 9: say that. You know, if you're take in consideration of 288 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 9: polling error, this lead could be cut by maybe ten percent, 289 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 9: and then you're not looking at as much of a 290 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 9: huge major labor landslide. You're looking at maybe you know, 291 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 9: a small labor minority government, sorry, a small labor majority, 292 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 9: or maybe even in a minority government in a and 293 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 9: a coalition. And they will saying that because of these 294 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 9: kind of different deemographics that they have to win over 295 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 9: things like immigration. If that becomes a major campaign point 296 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 9: like the Conservatives wanted to, that can also swing lots 297 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 9: of these seats. So the moment, it does seem like 298 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 9: LIBA has a pretty good hold on it. 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