1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Please, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: All living the dream once again here on a fully 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: loaded Sports Saturday. This is Fox Sports Saturday and we're 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And look 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: who's back. Anita's back? Hi, Anita, how are you today? 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: Happy birthday? My are belated? Yes, who's born on fourth 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 3: of July? Only you, dude? Well, you know, here's the 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: thing about being born on the fourth of July. A 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: it's a very easy day for other people to remember. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: When you think about most holidays. How many holidays is 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: actually born are no more for the date than the 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: actual name of the holiday. I mean, it's Independence Day, 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: but no where recalls that. They always call it the 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: fourth of July, So it's an easy day to remember. 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: By the way, my former boss Al Davis fourth of July, 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: George Steinbrenner fourth of July chats. 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: There are some big shoes to fill. I tell you, 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: we got a ton to do in a very short 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: amount of time, Anita. By the way, Adam Kaplan, our 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: NFL insider, it's gonna be joining us here in about 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 2: eighteen minutes. 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: Next hour. We'll check in with our NBA insider, Mark Medina. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: But before we do that, I want to find out 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: about your Fourth of July because I understand Anita, that 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: you you are quite the grill master. 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: I have become that. So I moved into a new 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: apartment here in Hoboken, New Jersey, and I have this 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: wonderful backyard, which is like unheard of in this area 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: of town, right, And so I have a deck in 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: a huge backyard. I ordered this fantastic like swinky adult 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: pool and arrived from China. I was worried about the tariffs. 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: It arrived. It's great. My summer's rolling. I don't cook. 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: I'm not a cook. I'm not a chef. I don't cook. 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, I gotta buy a grill. 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: I've got a deck, I've got a pool, I've got 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: a backyard. It's what you do, right, Steve. 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's what you do. 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: So I went out I bought this, you know, Like, 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: I texted a bunch of my dude friends like, hey, 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: what kind of grill you know? Guys like you know 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: like every like you know, Oh, you got to get 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: the weber. You got to get the weber with the 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: two things on the side that keep your stuff hot. 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, all right, so I I buy 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: this grill. I can't stop grilling. 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 4: I am. 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: I have become a girl master, even to the point 48 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: where now I subscribe to a meat delivering company. 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so you posted this on Instagram, right, and you 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: sent me this, and I was like, as you're opening 51 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: this box and there's enough meat there to last several lifetimes. 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: It seemed like to me, I mean, so do you 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: cook it all at once? I mean, did you use. 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: Because Fourth of July holiday is and by the way, 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: because it's on a Friday, this year really becomes a 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: Fourth of July weekend, right, And but I mean this 57 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: is this is the consummate day for barbecue is the 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 2: fourth of July. So did you cook it all? Did 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: you select a few things? Did you share it with 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: friends over? How did this all work? 61 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: Yest year? 62 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Exactly? 63 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: I had about about ten to fifteen people come over 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 3: a lot of apparol sprits, and so I start off 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: with the sausage with a little siracha dipping sauce. Then 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: I moved to the skirt steak with a little chimmy 67 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: tura dipping sauce, and then and then it's all about 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 3: It's all about the chicken. Either it's it's the barbecue 69 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: chicken or the bitchin good It's like a what do 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: you call it? The chicken the buffalo chicken sauce, so 71 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: I marinated in it's a whole thing. 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: It's like, like you into this. 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: I've got it down. I've got it down. My Fourth 74 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: of July was fantastic, Probably not is as great as 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: your birthday. But I will say this, because you mentioned 76 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: the fourth of July falling on Friday. Do you realize 77 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: now for the next four years, we are now set 78 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: with fourth because next year Fourth of July will be 79 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: on Saturday, so we'll still have that Friday off as 80 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: a holiday, right, same thing for Sunday, and the following 81 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: year will be Monday. So let's you know, let's put 82 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: a big green bow on this conversation and let's be 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: excited that like, Fourth of July is not going to 84 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: fall on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday from the next 85 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: three to four years. How great is that? 86 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely great for all of us and for all of 87 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: our listeners out there. I hope you're Fourth of July 88 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: was great. Hope you're going to continue it. The entire 89 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: weekend and hang out with us today. Now I want 90 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 2: to get to something early on with you, Anita, because 91 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: you sent me. 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: Something about the Big Beautiful Bill. 93 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: So I saw something posted about NFL owners and the 94 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 2: Big Beautiful Bill about some of the tax write offs 95 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: that a very bitter Donald Trump. He was bitter because 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: he tried to buy the Buffalo Bills years ago and 97 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: was denied, just didn't quite have enough capital to buy 98 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: the bills. 99 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: And he basically had told people. 100 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: That if I if I ever become a president, I'm 101 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: going to get these guys, I'm coming after that because 102 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: they didn't want me in the club, so to speak. 103 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: And really that's a big part of it. 104 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: And so it was part of this big Beautiful bill, 105 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: and then it got eliminated at the last second some 106 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: kind of tax right off where it had been less 107 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: of a tax right off, you know, not a more, 108 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: but a less of a tax right off for these 109 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: NFL owners. But when we talk about these tax right offs, 110 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: this can have a major impact on the sports gambling industry. 111 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the legal sports gambling that goes on 112 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: around the country. Now, obviously this is your forte this 113 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: is one of the great times when I have you 114 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: on that. You know, we want to get into a 115 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: lot of the dynamics of wagering and everything else. Got 116 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: some WNBA stuff We're going to get to a little 117 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: bit later on. But explain for us and a large 118 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: share of our audience right now that is very much 119 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: in favor of sports gambling legally, how the rule whatever 120 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: was put in the Big Beautiful Bill could have an 121 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: impact on legal sports gambling. 122 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, first things first, regardless of what your political allegiances. 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: Put that aside, Like, I don't understand why this bill 124 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: is being called beautiful because it's it's far from it, 125 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: especially for gamblers. Okay, so pretty much, and I'm gonna 126 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: try this to put this in the simplest terms as possible. 127 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: So pretty much at the end of the day, what 128 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: this bill is doing is that it is eliminating the 129 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: winning betters, so books for the longest time, you know, 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: I and for folks who are just listening, like this 131 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: is my forte. This is what I do for a living. 132 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: I'm a betting analyst, so I typically try to tell 133 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: people what to gamble on and more time than not, 134 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: try to help them win money. And if you're winning 135 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: anywhere between fifty four to fifty six percent. 136 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: You're good. 137 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: What's going to happen with this big I'm gonna call 138 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: it the horrible bill, is that you are going to 139 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: have to pay money taxes on your losses. Usually you 140 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: pay taxes, Steve on your winning. 141 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: That would make sense. Yeah, you win something, you got 142 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: to give a little back. So you're now saying that 143 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: if you lose, you're going to have to pay taxes 144 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: on your losses. 145 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: Yes, pretty much so so, but where this all comes 146 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: from is that books have been trying to eliminate the 147 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: winning betters, like the real savvy, like the guys from 148 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: like n It and you know those that like try 149 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: to find the little nuances of of bookmakers making mistakes. So, 150 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: you know, they tried to limit their amount of money 151 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: that they can wager, they tried to ban them, they 152 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: put a twenty five cent tax on them per bet. 153 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: They've been trying to lose for a long time. Now 154 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: this big beautiful bill comes in and the margins are unwinnable. 155 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: So pretty much what happens is you get a penalty, 156 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: a ten percent right off on on on losses and 157 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: so so so okay, so just to put it in 158 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: layman's terms. You know before, if you want to hundred 159 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year and lost one hundred thousand dollars 160 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: a year, you wouldn't have to pay taxes right right now, 161 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: You're going to have to play pay a ten tax 162 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: on your on your losses. 163 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 5: Okay. 164 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: So in other words, what you're saying, I'm gonna really 165 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: break this down at a what I call from me an. 166 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: Idiot level, that. 167 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: You are basically being penalized to win. 168 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: Just no, you're being penalized just to camble. All right, 169 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: So you're actually you have to pay, you have to 170 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: pay the government just to be able to gamble. 171 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Okay, because the majority listen. 172 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: At the end of the day. 173 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Okay, but where is this money going? See, this is 174 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: what I don't understand. 175 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 6: I don't know. 176 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: I don't know where that money sets. Well, we don't 177 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: know what any of our tax money is going. 178 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 5: We never have. 179 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: That's the problem. 180 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: But when we when we talk about legalized sports gambling, 181 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: you know when it was not every state is embraced it. 182 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: I know California hasn't yet. 183 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: But so you're saying, and the idea again of legalizing 184 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: sports gambling or sports betting is to generate a lot 185 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: of revenue for these individual states. That's why so many 186 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: states are saying, absolutely, let's do this. But now you're 187 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: saying that this ruling or this input into this bill 188 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: could actually discourage people from engagement in sports betting. 189 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, so, again, just putting in simple terms, if you 190 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: win one hundred thousand dollars and you lose one hundred 191 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: thousand dollars, you're winnings right like, so you will have 192 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: to pay. You could only write off ninety percent of 193 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: your losses, not one hundred percent of your losses. So 194 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: what it's doing is it's really forcing you to have 195 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you have to have a you know, 196 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: you have to win a lot of money in order 197 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: to just break even. 198 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 2: Well, my biggest concern, Anita, is is this going to 199 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 2: cut into your barbecuing because if you don't have Is. 200 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: That how we're is that how we're bringing this. 201 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: Full well, I mean, I mean I'm trying to figure 202 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: this out because I'm worried about you, Anita. I mean 203 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people are gonna have to figure this 204 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: out for themselves, but for you and have spent so 205 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: much time and continue to spend so much time breaking 206 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: it all down. 207 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: Uh And and your reward is. 208 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 2: A beautiful apartment with a beautiful backyard now that you're 209 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: able to barbecue and saky pool waky pool and everything, 210 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden that if you lose, I 211 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: you know, I hope you don't lose much, but if 212 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: you do, all of a sudden, you got to pay 213 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: on that. 214 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: Here's what it comes down to, Steve, I'm gonna I'm 215 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 3: gonna need more shows with you. 216 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna have an open, open ticket 217 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: for that. 218 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: I promise you need fox to uh to to book 219 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 3: me for more shows with you in order to facilitate 220 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: my gambling habit. It's it's it's really seriously, it's I 221 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: mean it's you. You literally are paying the government just 222 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: for the mere ability to gamble. And and the majority 223 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: of people are not going to be able to break even, 224 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: let alone win money, and especially the really the heavy rollers, 225 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: the big time. This is very damaging. It's extremely damaging, 226 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: and it's going to change the landscape of gambling. 227 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 6: Wow. 228 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: All right, so that's big news. 229 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: If you weren't aware, and Anita's filling the in on 230 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: something you did not know about. 231 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: Don't blame her, don't blame the messenger. 232 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: But I thought it was important because we do have 233 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: a lot of gamblers out there listening and just wanted 234 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: to keep you updated. All right, speaking of gambling, the 235 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: National Football League view you wager on the NFL. 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So be sure to subscribe so you always 263 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. 264 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk a little NFL right now. And 265 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: joining us, of course, is the man that is simply 266 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: the best, the best, a legend in our minds and 267 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: those of many others. The great Adam Kaplan is joining 268 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: us right now. First off, Adam, how was your fourth 269 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: of July? 270 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 9: I was good, Yeah, it's good. Lots of family stuff. 271 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 9: Couldn't get down the shore. But I would have loved 272 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 9: to get to the Jersey Shore, but. 273 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 6: Couldn't do it this time around. 274 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: But what about you, Well, it was my birthday. It 275 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: was a birthday I shared with my old boss, Al Davis. 276 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: I think it's one of the reason we had a 277 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: connection and we had the same birthday on the fourth 278 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: of July. 279 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 6: But you know that, you. 280 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: Know, I don't know. 281 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I think years later, I think he always 282 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: was very nice to me after I left the organization, 283 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: but when maybe I should have mentioned him when I 284 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: was working for him. All right, I want to talk 285 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: about the Steelers, the whole opposite of the Raiders, the 286 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: franchise of the Raiders hated the most. And Omar Khan 287 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: gets an extension on his deal now and again there's 288 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: a little bit of a you know, asterisk here because 289 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: the guy's been in the organization for well over twenty 290 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: years and they tend to sort of keep it in house. 291 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: But is this a reward for landing Aaron Rodgers or 292 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: making the deals for Metcalf and Ramsey. Exactly why is 293 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: he being rewarded? Because you don't give a GM an 294 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: extension unless you believe you're heading in the right direction. 295 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, so he got a three year extension and they 296 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 9: were not going to let him, you know, finish the 297 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 9: season without getting a new deal. This is this is 298 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 9: this kind of the. 299 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 6: Way it works. 300 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 9: And you're right, Omar had done all their contracts. He's 301 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 9: a contract negotiator, only he didn't really have a personnel background, Steve, 302 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 9: which is really interesting, but talking to people know him, 303 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 9: he went out of his way to try to learn 304 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 9: about tape and learning about football and Andy while the 305 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 9: assist general manager. He went to school with it Tulane, 306 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 9: so he learned football, you know, over the last fifteen 307 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 9: twenty years, and I give him credit. So, Steve, one 308 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 9: of the things that just really is interesting is covering. 309 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 6: Them in the league. For as long as I have 310 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 6: the Steelers. 311 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 9: Have been one of those old school teams that doesn't 312 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 9: really get involved with trades. Effect if they do anything, 313 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 9: they trade play that don't really acquire them. But it 314 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 9: really started. You mentioned DK Metcalf that was so Unsteeler like. 315 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 9: So Metcalf will make thirty five million this season. Okay, 316 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 9: thirty five million dollars is what his cash total is 317 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 9: going to be the season. 318 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 6: That's a lot. 319 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 9: And you know, they made a decision after last season 320 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 9: that George Pickens would not be coming back under any circumstance, 321 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 9: They're going to move him. They felt that because they 322 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 9: were not going to extend his contract, it felt like 323 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 9: it just would not be a situation where they can 324 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 9: get through without it and being disturbance. So they made 325 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 9: the decision to make that trade with Dallas, and they 326 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 9: brought in Metcalf who's going to replace him. And you 327 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 9: know about Rogers. Obviously Metcalf and Rodgers worked out together. 328 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 9: So they got that taken care of it. 329 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 6: And I know people are saying if oh, they're going 330 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 6: for it. 331 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't disagree with that, but this is it's 332 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 9: just it's spending the cash that they're spending. They just 333 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 9: acquired Jalen Ramsey will make just around twenty million this season, 334 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 9: right John O. 335 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 5: Smith. 336 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 9: Not only do they acquire him, and I know Steeler 337 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 9: fans like, wait a minute, we were paying We're paying 338 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 9: Pat Fry with twelve and a half million, and now 339 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 9: we're going to pay Jonasmith twelve million, twenty four and 340 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 9: a half million at tight end, Like this is not Steve, 341 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 9: this is not like the Steelers. 342 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: So obviously there but the rewarding him. So maybe this 343 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: is the direction they want to go. 344 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 6: Well, no, this is a new thing. 345 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: Now. 346 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 6: Now I'm going to give you a nugget here. So 347 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 6: you just mentioned the direction. 348 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 9: There's been a talk inside their building for last year 349 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 9: they need to be more aggressive. Any While, the assistant 350 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 9: general Matcher came from Philly. He worked closely with Howie 351 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 9: Roseman for a number of years. No one more aggressive 352 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 9: at general manager than Howie Roseman. He's fearless, he's not 353 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 9: worried about being wrong. He's just going to go for it. 354 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 9: And as you know, he's won two Super Bowls in 355 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 9: eight years as a general manager. And n Yanie's a 356 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 9: little bit more reserved, you know, knowing him another way 357 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 9: he deals with things. But I know there's been a 358 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 9: movement inside their building to be more aggressive and that 359 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 9: that's honestly, that's the thing here. 360 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 6: And he's I omore. I know he'd work with you're. 361 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 9: The previous regime, the previous front office. But this is 362 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 9: a this is this is different here at Steve, which 363 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 9: is a good point here. 364 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 5: I agree with you. 365 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 6: This is completely different and I like it. They're being 366 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 6: very aggressive. 367 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: So let's and high. By the way, it's been a minute, 368 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: happy fourth. 369 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 6: Too, Yes, Anida, how are you? 370 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 3: I can tell I'm great. I'm great twenty five I 371 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 3: as well would have loved to have made my way 372 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: to the shore, but I did not. Either you and 373 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: I are in the same boat. But let's talk about 374 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: the addition of Smith, and let's talk about the addition 375 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: of DK and Aaron Rodgers when and Arthur Smith being 376 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator, what do you like? I'm seeing a 377 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: lot of twelve personet Like, what are you envision there 378 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: are for this offense this season? And how productive do 379 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: you think they can be? 380 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 9: All Right, Nina, So let's start talking about Arthur Smith 381 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 9: the general. He's just me the offense accordion who calls 382 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 9: the plays. Right, He's a heavy twelve personnel guy. So 383 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 9: that they were already doing it with Darnoll Washington as 384 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 9: the backup. So my understanding was, you know, when you 385 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 9: look at Darno wathingon the third round of Georgia in 386 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 9: twenty twenty three, his weight's been sort of an issue. 387 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 9: He's not progressed as a pass receiver as they would 388 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 9: have liked. And jon O Smith there's no offense to 389 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 9: pat Friarmouth. Jonah Smith is a better football player. The 390 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 9: reason why the Patriots gave Jonah Smith the second highest 391 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 9: tight end contract at the time when they did this 392 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty one, is because he was phenomenal with 393 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 9: the Patriots. And look it, I mean he's phenomenal with 394 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 9: the Titans. On Arthur Smith, they didn't work out with 395 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 9: the Patriots and he moved on and they caught him 396 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 9: after two years. But he goes to Atlanta and revised 397 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 9: his career under Arthur Smith again, and then he goes 398 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 9: to Miami. 399 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 6: He ratches it up a notch and he wanted more money. 400 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 9: The Dolphins told him, we're not going to do They 401 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 9: told Drors announced his agent, we're not doing it. 402 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 6: And they found a team that they were able to 403 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 6: move him to. 404 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 9: And this is a team that is going to play 405 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 9: a ton of two tight ends. And now, by the way, 406 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 9: now Johona Smith, it turns thirty later this year. If 407 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 9: he's on a one year deal, if he plays well, 408 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 9: they could bring him back. 409 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 6: And they don't really see neither. They don't really have 410 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 6: a second receiver minor standing as they believe. 411 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 9: It'll be Roman Wilson, who didn't really play much. He 412 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 9: was hurt last season the roundof Michigan. But the third receiver, 413 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 9: the second receiver in this offense won't get the ball. 414 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 9: It's going to be Metcalfe one, Firemouth two or three, 415 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 9: johnad Smith two or three. 416 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 5: That's it. 417 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 9: That's the pass target tree. There's no other They don't 418 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 9: run a lot of three receiver sets. So that's it. 419 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 9: I mean, it's a very simple offense. But the pressure 420 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 9: is let me tell you something. Pressure is going to 421 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 9: be on Arthur Smith this season. Like you can't have 422 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 9: an offense like last season and get away with it again. 423 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 9: Pressure is absolutely going to be on him. 424 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: We are now in the month of July here, and 425 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: last time I checked. 426 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: My calendar, by the end of this month, we're gonna 427 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: have a Hall of Fame game. We are going to 428 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: have a Hall of Fame game. Give us a little 429 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: sense right now. 430 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 2: And there's one other thing I want to bring up 431 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: as well as we get ready for the start of 432 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: the season. 433 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I see where the. 434 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: Governor of Ohio's approved money for a new stadium for 435 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: the Browns. So what is now the life expectancy of 436 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: NFL state is it? 437 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: Is it twenty years? I mean, if. 438 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: You're spending a billion, two billion, whatever it takes to 439 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: build one of these stadiums, and they expect every twenty 440 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: years now for you to tear that thing down and 441 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: upgrade with a new stadium. Is that where we're heading 442 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: right now as far as NFL teams are concerned. 443 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 9: Yep, twenty to twenty five here, Steve is really it, Yeah, 444 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 9: because you have to have all the amenities. And it's 445 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 9: as fascinating that Cleveland's is going to get this Stone stadium, 446 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 9: and I I'll see the Browns of the summer in 447 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 9: training camp where they come to Philly for join practices 448 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 9: for the preseason game. So I look forward to talking 449 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 9: to their front office and management that's there. But yeah, 450 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 9: this is the new deal here. I mean, this is 451 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 9: really in. And you also want your own practice facility, 452 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 9: and we've seen that in recent years where teams are 453 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 9: finally like teams in hot weather. 454 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 6: It's really interesting. 455 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 9: The Jaguars never had one shot con finally got one built, 456 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 9: the Buccaneers finally got one built some years ago. And 457 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 9: then you obviously want, you know, your own stadium, and 458 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 9: we're seeing that. So to move this along, Yeah, the 459 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 9: expectancy is no more than twenty five years, it's And 460 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 9: the other thing is how much public money. That's the 461 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 9: big debate Steve, as you know, is how much public 462 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 9: money are you going to get? And how much is 463 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 9: can you financed it privately and publicly? That that's always 464 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 9: the fight. 465 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: Before we let you go. I'm curious there's one team 466 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: that I am just loving heading into this year. And 467 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: that's the Washington commanders. 468 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 9: Everyone else is now where were you last year, Anita. 469 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 3: Listen? I was on the Eagles last year. I just 470 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: and you mentioned Howie. I just think the Eagles take 471 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: a step back this year. I don't like all that 472 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: they've lost on the defensive side of the Yeah, yeah, yeah, 473 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 3: but you know, I know Washington's defense is nothing to 474 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: write home about. But I think I think Daniels can 475 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: take us, you know, can build on his his Workie campaign. 476 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: The addition of Deebo Samuel, they improved the offensive line 477 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 3: for me. I really I think the commander are and 478 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: as you said, a lot of people are on them. 479 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: Are they really the sleeper to really make some noises? 480 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 6: Definitely not. 481 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably not at this point. 482 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 6: But no, they're not asleep, and no they're there. 483 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 9: As you know in the gambling, there their win totals 484 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 9: like the nine and a half. 485 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 3: So what's your team? What's your team? 486 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 9: I see every Steve's Let let's give Steve credit. Heath 487 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 9: Denver was his. I didn't see it. The outsmaker's stand 488 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 9: at five and a half wins, I didn't. I didn't 489 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 9: see that at all. Actually, like the under I got 490 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 9: that wrung. 491 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: That was my one pick in need of that pre 492 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: season pick. 493 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: I picked the Broncos with their rookie quarterback to make 494 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: the play playoffs. 495 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 9: There might be the only one in this country because 496 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 9: in need of the line, whatever book you looked at, 497 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 9: it was either between four and a half or five 498 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 9: and a half wins. So the Seahawks are my team 499 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 9: that nobody's talking about because every year we just similarly 500 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 9: can't find that team, like the year the Jaguars came 501 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 9: out of nowhere and Doug Peterson doug first year. Unfortunately 502 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 9: after that it was terrible. Seattle's my team. No one's 503 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 9: talking about that division. The NFC West is wide open. 504 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 9: Sam Darnold, I'm gonna he's playing the same offense that 505 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 9: he did last year. West Coast old school, West Coast 506 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 9: did a great job with it. I like their draft 507 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 9: are starting to build there. They're my upset special to 508 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 9: be a wild card in the NFC. 509 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: All right, final question, are the Eagles ever going to 510 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: get their Super Bowl rings? 511 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 512 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 9: This is crazy. Well, they'res just to get them this month. 513 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 9: Yeah I got delayed. Yeah, that was a bizarre situation. 514 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 9: The last time that they won in seventeen. It happened 515 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 9: in June that they got them. And I'll tell you what, 516 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 9: Jeffrey Loriy, their owner, is incredible. Like talking to some 517 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 9: of the coaches, fron Offs people, they spare no expense 518 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 9: in partying and all that. They're the one organization that 519 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 9: just does it. They just do it right. And you know, 520 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 9: I mentioned Howie Roseman, he's turned his career around. And 521 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 9: when you've got to support of your owner Anita and Steve, 522 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 9: when you know he could have let Howie go after 523 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 9: Doug Peterson got fired, and he stayed with him and 524 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 9: that was a great move. Not most owners would not 525 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 9: have done that. But Jeffrey Lourie is a phenomenal owner 526 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 9: and I'm kind of surprised by the way he's not 527 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 9: got involved in other sports like Josh Harris, the six 528 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 9: sh owner who who also owns the Commanders and his 529 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 9: ownership group. Kind of surprise Jeffrey's not owned other sports properties. 530 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: Well, enjoy the rest of your Fourth of July holiday. 531 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a weekend situation here, so Adam, enjoy 532 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: the rest of the weekend, and thanks so much. We'll 533 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: check in with you next week sounds good. See Adam Kaplan, 534 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: our NFL insider Johnny is there. Now let's find out 535 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: what is a trending? And Martin is standing by. 536 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: Right now, I am you are you turn your hat around? 537 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 5: Why is that? You know, Steve? This has been a 538 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 5: point of contention the last few weeks. 539 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: And then the fact that you continue to wear it 540 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: weekend after weekend after we'd never seen it. 541 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: So Anita is new to this, So I'm going to 542 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: fill her in on this. So Anita, he has to well, 543 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: here's the deal. Does the color or the logo make 544 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: a cap? For instance, I was in New York City 545 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: with my boys back in twenty seventeen. 546 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: I love how and I had a black. 547 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 10: If somebody asked the question, they then quantify why they 548 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 10: feel the way they feel with letting him. 549 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm just going to ask this. 550 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: I was, I was in New York and I I 551 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 2: had a make a difference. 552 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: I had a black Yankee cap, but the the New 553 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: York logo was also blackened out. 554 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: So I've seen that happy right. 555 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: And I loved it. It was a really really cool hat. 556 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 2: But in other words, what what what? What Martin's been 557 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: worrying is a Dodgers cap. But it's black, it's not blue, 558 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: and so he insists it's not a Dodgers cap. It's 559 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: an l A cap. How do you feel about that? 560 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 3: I have to see it. 561 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: It's the l A logo, just like you would see 562 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: on a Dodger's cap. 563 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: Said, it's just it's all black. It's it's it's similar 564 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 3: to your Yankee head. 565 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: Correct, it's a black cap instead of a blue cap. Right, 566 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: is that a Dodger cab or is that just an 567 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: l A black cap. 568 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: No, it's a Dodgers hat. Right, you bought it as 569 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 3: a Dodgers hat. It's a Dodgers hat. 570 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: I did not buy. 571 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: I asked you a question. What color does the Dodgers? 572 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: Where? Blue? 573 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: Rest my case? 574 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: Okay, see he goes by the Yankees. 575 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 3: The Yankees don't wear black either. The Yankees wear like 576 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: a deep blue pinstripe. 577 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: He thinks this span like he thinks the Yankees would 578 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: be a Yankees. Yeah, he would not call that a Yankees. 579 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is the Yankees. Where you know the Navy. 580 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: The fact is you show up with this cat now 581 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: all the time. So you're trying to make a statement here. 582 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: But is it is it the logo. Is it the 583 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 3: same font? 584 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: It's the exact same. 585 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 3: It's the font of the Dodgers. 586 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: The las. 587 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 5: Does you say Dodgers anywhere? 588 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 6: It's black? 589 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 5: It's a black hat. 590 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: Are you not a Dodgers fan? What's I don't? Are 591 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 3: you not a Dodgers fan. 592 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 10: I'm Dodger ambivalent. Unlikely when they do well. And I 593 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 10: live in Los Angeles, it's a happier city where the Dodgers. 594 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: He didn't like him yesterday eighteen to one. 595 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 5: That was ugly. Yeah, I saw the scrolls like, oh. 596 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: Wow, were there any garbage cans in the dugout? 597 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, but that was the worst loss in 598 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Dodgers Stadium history. 599 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 10: I heard the color co one of the color conversators 600 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 10: not to bring up old wounds, but it's almost like 601 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 10: they know what's coming. It was that way. It was batting. 602 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: They had one guy that came in, the guy named 603 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: Noah Davis, gave up ten runs in one inning. 604 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: All earned. 605 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 5: That's impressively bad. 606 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 3: That is very impressively bad. 607 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 10: Let's run through the active baseball games. I won't take 608 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 10: up too much more of your time. Top of the 609 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 10: eighth inning, the Orioles and the Braves six to six. 610 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 10: The bottom of the eighth inning, the Bruins and the 611 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 10: Marlins two to two. The Yankees and the Mets on 612 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 10: FS one right now, the Mets with an eleven to 613 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 10: five lead in the bottom of the seventh inning, Yankees 614 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 10: wearing the Navy hat. They're not wearing black or white. 615 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, and a Mets batters got hit in 616 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 10: the head. Jack, Watch right there, just got hitting the 617 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 10: head by Sandridge. That's a tough one. That is he's 618 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 10: going to be checked out. It looks like he's okay, 619 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 10: but that was a scary thing to just turn and watch. 620 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 10: Bottom of the eighth inning, the Diamondbacks with a five 621 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 10: to one lead over the Royals. 622 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 5: Back to you, guys. See this is the problem. 623 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 624 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 10: This is the The Mets have these funky gray hats on. 625 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 10: This is not a Mets hat. 626 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: I agree, see, don't get me agree. No no, no, no, no, 627 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: oh they're a Mets cap. But they're an ugly Mets cap. 628 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: Oh is what I'm saying. Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 629 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: good thing. I want to boo. That was like care 630 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: him off his elbow into his ear. 631 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: See that he wants to change the subject. I do 632 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: because that's not what I said. What I said was 633 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: it's not something I would wear. Okay, ugly, thank you 634 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: very much, Martin. 635 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. 636 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: By the way, we're coming you live from the Fox 637 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. You can stream this show and all 638 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: of our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to 639 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 2: seven and the new unapproved iHeartRadio app. 640 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: Just search Fox Sports. 641 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: Radio on the app to stream a live and one 642 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: of the newest features in the app is it can 643 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets. You 644 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: don't like the presets on your radio dials, so be 645 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. 646 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: It will always pop up at the top of your screen. So, Anita, 647 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, you know, we have 648 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: our great Show's Countdown on the Weekends presented by MG 649 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: where the guys talk about you know, the week ahead 650 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: and games that day. To bet On and Jeff Schwartz 651 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: who used to do a regular Saturday show with me 652 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: before he became part of that Sunday show. I kidded 653 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: him a week ago because he filled in last week, 654 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: and I said, Jeff, I listened to you guys all 655 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: the time, and all you talk about is WNBA. That's 656 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: all you talk about. I mean when they're saying, all right, 657 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: what's your best play of the day. Even crack Cracker 658 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: Burger is like WNBA. So I want to ask you, Anita, 659 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: because I started behind the scenes with sort of like 660 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: asking Jeff about betting WNBA versus NBA, and he goes, well, 661 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: NBA is very much a challenge, but it seems like 662 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: they haven't quite figured out the w NBA yet. And 663 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: if you do your homework and you really break it down, 664 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: there's some great plays out there, seemingly every day. So 665 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: how have you hand handled the obvious increase interest in 666 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: the w NBA, not just a viewers standpoint, from my 667 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: gambling standpoint, it's. 668 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: A great question, and it's it's really interesting, right because 669 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: more people are gambling on the w NBA, more people 670 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: are watching the w NBA, all because of one human being, 671 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: and that is Caitlin Clark. And you cannot convince me otherwise. 672 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: You you talked about w NBA, you mentioned w NBA 673 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: it was a showkiller. Now it's not. And she she 674 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: hasn't even been. 675 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: Playing right, She's that with this coin injury. 676 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: She's out with a groin injury, and we're still talking 677 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: w NBA and oh, by the way, I do have 678 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: a w NBA play for you tonight, seven o'clock. The 679 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: Sparks going up against the Fever. I do like the Fever, 680 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: even though Caitlin Clark is out Fever favored by minus 681 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: five and a half and their their last game. I 682 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: went against them because they were coming off of the 683 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: Commissioner Cup win against the Links, and I'm sure you 684 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: saw the video. 685 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 6: They're in there. 686 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: They're towerkin, they're popping the bubbly, they're doing right. Like 687 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: nobody parties like the Fever right, And so I'm like, okay, 688 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: now they're going up against the Aces, who've been struggling 689 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: as of late. So but like, these girls were partying 690 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: hard after wishing winning the Commissioner's Cup, and I went 691 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: up against them and they crushed the Aces by twenty 692 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: seven points. So I'm not gonna gamble against them again. 693 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: They are surprisingly good even without Caitlin Clark, which is scary. 694 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: They've won four of their last five. Why they're getting 695 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: the ball more into the paint with Boston and Howard 696 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: Mitchell is shooting thirty seven percent from downtown. 697 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 6: You know, there's just it. 698 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: I will say this, the WNBA is a little bit 699 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: more easier to handicap because you have a lot more 700 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: consistency with the players. I will say that. But my 701 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: play tonight is the fever at minus five and a half. 702 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: And again we are talking WNBA. We are watching WNBA 703 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: because Claitlyn Clark is now. I've you can sit there 704 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: and I know you and I have been covering sports 705 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: for a long time. Right what Michael Jordan had in 706 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: regard to the NBA, what Tiger Woods had in regard 707 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: to the to the PGA, Caitlin Clark has that type 708 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: of power and that type of influence and that type 709 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: of draw to a sport that, let's be honest, was 710 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: struggling before. 711 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree and I've said this right 712 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: now today. She is the most influential athlete in the world, 713 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 2: hands down. She is the most influential in terms of 714 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: spotlight on her individual sport by far. You mentioned Jordan 715 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: back in the AA, you mentioned a Tiger Woods, You 716 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: mentioned Muhammad Ali back in the world of boxing, back 717 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: in There are very few of these where you can 718 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: see a discernible difference on when they're playing and when 719 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: they're not playing, and just the magnitude of their presence 720 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: in terms of interest and eyeballs. 721 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: It's a very short list, but as we see it. 722 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: Here today in twenty twenty five, she is the single 723 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: most influential athlete, man or woman on the planet. 724 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: I'm just going to share this really quick. The Indiana 725 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: Fever franchise is currently valued at three hundred and thirty 726 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 3: five million dollars, making it the third most valuable WNBA team. 727 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: The value represents a significant two hundred and seventy three 728 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: percent increase. I'm going to repeat that again because I 729 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 3: want folks to marinate in this two hundred and seventy 730 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: three percent increase with the with the addition of Caitlin 731 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: Clark and now the WNBA the league's total value reaching 732 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: three point five billion dollars, all because of one year 733 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: human being. You're absolutely right, Steve. 734 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: It's crazy, I mean crazy, but it is a reality, 735 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: all right. Coming up on the other side, we've got 736 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: to get to some NBA news, uh, and obviously free 737 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: agency underway. We're gonna get some thoughts about teams that 738 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: have helped themselves eventually we're gonna get to the Lakers. 739 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: But let's talk Eastern Conference wide open right now. With 740 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: obviously season ending injuries to Jason Tatum Halliburton, Uh, you know, 741 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: Dyllian Damian Lillard is out of Milwaukee. 742 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: When it doest settles, which way should. 743 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: We lean as the team to beat in the Eastern Conference, 744 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,479 Speaker 2: We'll break it down. 745 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Saturday. 746 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Steve Hartman and 747 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: Anita Marx here Fox Sports Saturday. 748 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right. 749 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: In the next hour, Mark Mendin, our NBA insider, will 750 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: join us. We'll get into the this with Lebron James, obviously, 751 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 2: the changing dynamic in the Western Conference, Kevin Durant now 752 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: a Houston Rocket. 753 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: What's going to happen with the Warriors? Is Lebron gonna 754 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: get traded? 755 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: All of this kind of stuff will break down coming 756 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: up in the next hour, but right now, in need, 757 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: I want to focus in on the East. 758 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: And this is just. 759 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 2: To me, it's really crazy because obviously no one expected 760 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers to win the Eastern Conference this past season. 761 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: It was a team that was made up of rejects. 762 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 5: Think about it. 763 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, every one of. 764 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: Their key players was deemed expendable by another team. Not everyone, 765 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: but most of their key players were deemed expendable by 766 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: another team, and they piece it all to the other. 767 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: Give Rick Carlisle credit. He proved that he is one 768 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 2: of the elite coaches in the NBA. And it had 769 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: it not been for the injury to hall of Burton 770 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: the games And by the way, what was your play 771 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: on Game seven? Because you know, this was a series 772 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: that I dismissed Indiana like most people did. I was 773 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: trying to okay, and I won't pick them at four. 774 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: Indiana will get a game, you know, they'll get a game. 775 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 2: You know they've shown a lot of spirit in this postseason. 776 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: But honestly, Oklahoma City, coming off you know, one of 777 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: the ten best regular seasons in NBA history, should steam 778 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 2: roll this team. 779 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: They didn't. Two questions, what was your play going into 780 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: Game seven? 781 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 2: And if Halliburton, who got off to hot start in 782 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: that Game seven, had stayed healthy, would we be sitting 783 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 2: here talking about the NBA champion Indiana Pacers. 784 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 6: Yeah. 785 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 3: So I made a hard pivot prior to the championship 786 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 3: series starting, I had OKC in five. I thought, just 787 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: like you, I thought Pacers will win one game. I 788 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: just thought, okay, see was that good? And then and 789 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: then once the series began and I started seeing what 790 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: whoa like Pacers like? They're playing with house money. Nobody 791 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 3: like you said, who was on the Pacers. They weren't 792 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 3: expected to be here. Halliburton was just arguable no offense 793 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 3: to you know, our our NBA MVP and SGA. But 794 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 3: to me, Halliburton was was outperforming anyone on that court 795 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 3: in that series. So again, had OKC in five pivoted hard. 796 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 3: I thought I had the Pacers on the money line 797 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 3: in that game. If Halliburton would not have gone down, 798 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: I think the Pacers would have won. I think we 799 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: would have had a game seven, and I would not 800 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: be shocked at the paper Pacers won the NBA Championship 801 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 3: this year. Quick, little cool nugget, Steve Jenny Bousek, who's 802 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 3: the beautiful blonde you see sitting next to Rick Carlisle 803 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: on the on the Indiana Pacers bench, My teammate in 804 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 3: flag football. Really, she was the assistant coach for the 805 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 3: Miami Soul. She came to Miami, I met her, we 806 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 3: started playing football together. I was her quarterback. I'm not 807 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: sure if you've heard the stories that she designs plays 808 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 3: for the Pacers based on her flag football. 809 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: I had no idea. 810 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 3: You didn't know this. So she designs NBA plays for 811 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 3: the Pacers based on my flag football plays that I 812 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: designed for our team. 813 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 814 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 2: Yes, well, then she gets a lot of credit that 815 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: she's probably not getting right now until this very moment. 816 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 3: So and mark my word, Steve, she will be the 817 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 3: next head coach of the Pacers. You heard it here first. 818 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: Okay, slow down a second here, slow down, by the way. 819 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm just throwing it. I'm throwing it out there. I 820 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: think I think Rick Carlisle is grooming her to take on. 821 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: I think you will see Jenny Boosek be the first 822 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 3: female head coach in the NBA. 823 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: Okay, so I would give her a lot. 824 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about Becky Hammond, obviously you're talking 825 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: about another woman now that has got connections to the NBA. 826 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: When the Knicks, we're talking about Don Staley. No knock 827 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: on Don Staley, who obviously proven to be one of 828 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 2: the best college basketball coaches in the country. But if 829 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: you don't have that NBA experience. I mean it's I mean, 830 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: it's it's an endless list of some of the most 831 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: successful college coaches of all time that have tried their 832 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: hand at the NBA with no NBA background, and they 833 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: have failed miserably. So I dismissed that. So when we 834 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: look at the East right now, the Pacers obviously without Halliburton, 835 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: and obviously their big man has gone as well. And 836 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 2: then you look at Boston, what exactly is Boston just 837 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: gutting their organization right now? I mean Tatum obviously most 838 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: likely is out for the year, and then they just 839 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: decide we got to unload people. Is that a reset 840 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden? Obviously the odds on the Celtics 841 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 2: have fallen through the into a hole that's ridiculous from 842 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: where they were just a year ago. What exactly do 843 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: you see with the Celtics and how are they going 844 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: to put that thing back together? Because like the Lakers, 845 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: like the Next like certain organizations in this league, this 846 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: league needs the Celtics to be competitive. 847 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: Do they? I don't know. 848 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, if ever there was a time I'm 849 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 3: to push the reset button, it's now, because you're not 850 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 3: gonna have Jason Tatum this season, so I understand why 851 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 3: they're doing that. But you know, the Knicks new head 852 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 3: coach in Mike Brown, some question marks there. 853 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: Awful Higher, it's awful higher. 854 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 2: I love Mike Brown. He's a great guy. I got 855 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 2: to know him a little bit when he was at 856 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 2: the Lakers. I can't think of a worse fit for 857 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: New York City than Mike Brown. 858 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 3: It's wide open for Cleveland, it is. It's wide open 859 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 3: for Donovan Mitchell. A healthy Donovan Mitchell, top five and 860 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: clutch time scoring. 861 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: But they were so disappointing in the playoffs this past year. 862 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 3: But the competition in the East is it's it's it's 863 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 3: going to be non existent. 864 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we were thinking of Cleveland and Oklahoma 865 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 2: City sort of on the same level, different conferences. Cleveland 866 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: didn't make it, Okase did. We're gonna get to Lebron. 867 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 2: Where's he going next? We'll tell you Fox Sports Saturday. 868 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports. 869 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 2: Rolling along here on another busy sports Saturday. Sports Saturday, 870 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports radio studios. Mark Mendeina, 871 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 2: our NBA insider, will be joining us coming at Pier 872 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: in about twenty minutes, he'll break down a lot of 873 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: activity around the NBA. 874 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: So Anita. 875 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 2: At the end of last season, when the Lakers embarrass 876 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 2: themselves in that playoff series against the Minnesota Timberwolves and 877 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 2: JJ Reddick one of the worst coaching jobs in the 878 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: history of the NBA postseason, I said at the time 879 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: that Lebron James had played his final game as a Laker. 880 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: And everybody's like, oh, what are you talking about? 881 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 2: WHOA what are you talking about? Well, then, what was 882 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,439 Speaker 2: it a week ago? 883 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 5: Right? 884 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 2: And he decides to pick up his player option, And 885 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 2: I came on, I said, well, looks like I was wrong, 886 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, not so fast. 887 00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: So here here's here's what we hear. And really it 888 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 1: comes from Rich Paul. 889 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 2: I mean, he's the guy that sort of throws it 890 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: out there right when he talks about that, Yes, he's 891 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 2: picking up his player option with the Lakers, but you know, 892 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 2: he's about winning a championship sort of like, let's see 893 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 2: what the Lakers do in the offseason. 894 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: Of course, when you say that, well, the Lakers are 895 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: very limited on what they can do because of the 896 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: contract he just signed. 897 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 2: And that's why you have to settle for a DeAndre 898 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: Ayight and we'll get to that in a moment, Anita, 899 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: But just staying with the Lakers and Lebron James, you're 900 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 2: still talking about a player that has to be recognized 901 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: as one of the top fifteen, if not top ten. 902 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: Players in the league. 903 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: A year ago, he scored twenty four points a game, 904 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 2: seven rebounds, eight assists, shot over fifty percent from the 905 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: field thirty eight percent from the three point line. He's 906 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 2: still one of the absolute elite players in this league. 907 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 2: But he comes with a hefty price tag. Yes, it's 908 00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: a dumpable contract because it's an aspiring deal. What's your gut, 909 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 2: am I going to turn out to be right with 910 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 2: my prediction that he had played his final game as 911 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 2: a Laker or come start of this season, will Lebron 912 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: James still be in a Lakers uniform. 913 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 3: So there's a lot to unpack here. Yes, listen, and 914 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 3: you talk about Rich Paul quote unquote, Lebron wants to 915 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 3: compete for a championship. He knows that the Lakers are 916 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 3: building for the future, he understands, but he values a 917 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 3: realistic chance of winning it all. It's impossible for the 918 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 3: Lakers or any team to win having to pay him 919 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 3: fifty two point six million dollars, okay at his age, 920 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 3: and not to say, you know, one could argue top 921 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 3: ten player in the NBA still, but at his age, 922 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 3: you know, you're talking about load management for him. So 923 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: you need to find the right elixir of paying him 924 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: a salary that you can afford that the team doesn't 925 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 3: can penalize with the apron blah blah blah. That's above 926 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 3: my pay grade in regard to how that all works. 927 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 3: But and then having a roster and a bench, especially 928 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 3: as long and is as grueling as the NBA is. 929 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 3: I mean, look, we just got done talking about what 930 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 3: a plethora of guys who already have Achilles injuries right 931 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: to be able to come in and compete and sustain 932 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 3: and win. So Lebron at his age, the load management 933 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 3: that comes with him at this stage in his career, 934 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 3: but having to pay him fifty two point six million dollars, 935 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 3: no team could win with that. So if Lebron really 936 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 3: wanted to win, Steve, here's the question, here's the real question. 937 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 3: If Lebron valued and how much money does one human 938 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 3: being need in a lifetime? Right, Lebron James has made 939 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 3: enough money for his children's children's children's children to not 940 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 3: have to work a day of their lives. So if 941 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 3: what really matters for Lebron is to win a championship, Steve, 942 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 3: he should have opted out. You're you're you're now forcing 943 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 3: you're now forcing the Lakers you know, to to Well, 944 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 3: they can't trade him because he's got he's got a 945 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 3: no trade clause where he wants to go. They don't 946 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: want him because they would have to give too much 947 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 3: up to get him, and realize that they wouldn't win 948 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 3: with him because they would have to give so much 949 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 3: up in regard to players and potential draft picks for 950 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 3: the future. You don't wanna, you don't wanna handicap your 951 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 3: organization because you bring him in to try to win 952 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 3: one where you just don't have the right mix of 953 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 3: roster depth and and and the taxes or the apron 954 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 3: that you have to pay. 955 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 2: Well, but here is the thing, Anita, and and by 956 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: the way, this was all orchestrated by team Lebron. So 957 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 2: when we go back when uh, you know Sham's is 958 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 2: putting out something by five weeks ago, you know the 959 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: rich Paul's out there saying, well, it looks like we're 960 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 2: gonna have to pick up the player option. That was 961 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 2: his way of saying, Lakers were looking for a long 962 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 2: term deal. Yeah, we'll take less, but we want years. Well, 963 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 2: once the sale of the Lakers went down, that was 964 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 2: out the window. I mean, that was not gonna happen. 965 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 2: They were not going to give him years. And so 966 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 2: they're like, we'll screw you. Then we'll just pick up 967 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 2: the option. And that's that's pretty much how this played out. 968 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 3: But let's let's let's take let's take the let's take like, 969 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 3: let's really talk about Lebron James, Steve right again. How 970 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 3: much money does one human being need in a lifetime? 971 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: I understand it, but I remember the conversation. 972 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 3: I wanted to win. Yeah, here and and let's and 973 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 3: here's the bigger The bigger conversation is, you know, the 974 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 3: conversation of Michael Jordan Lebron James the greatest of all time? 975 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 3: If he really and we live in a society, we 976 00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 3: live in a sports uh youse where we value championships. 977 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 3: I do not in team sports. I think it's a farce. 978 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: But that's a conversation. 979 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you because I've always said this 980 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 2: about championships. I told this to Kobe to his face. 981 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 2: When you say I'm a five time champion, you're you're wrong. 982 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 2: It's not an individual a team sporting. You were on 983 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 2: five teams that won championship. You can talk about all NBA, 984 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: All Star Games, scoring, all that's individual stuff. And when 985 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 2: you talk about, well, you know I won five championships, 986 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 2: No you didn't. You didn't win five championships. You were 987 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 2: on five championship teams, whether you were the key guy 988 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 2: or the last guy on the bench. That is a 989 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 2: team and not an individual accomplishment. 990 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 3: So you and I agree on that, But the majority 991 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: of the country they do not. 992 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: They don't even think about it. 993 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 3: They know. 994 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: And that's when people there's a five time champion. 995 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 3: When people say that Tom Brady's the greatest quarterback of 996 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 3: all time, I laugh. But of course, you know, when 997 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 3: you hashtag Tom Brady on on X, the emoji of 998 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 3: a goat comes up. It makes me want to vomit. 999 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 3: But nonetheless, if Lebron James, we live in this world 1000 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 3: where we equate championships in team sports to the greatest 1001 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 3: of all time, if he really wanted to win a championship, 1002 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: he would have opted out, and he would have done 1003 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 3: what Tom Brady did for years and years and years 1004 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 3: with the Patriots, and that's take less money so that 1005 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 3: your team could build the right personnel around you that 1006 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 3: you have the best offer. 1007 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 2: He did that in Miami, though, Anita, I mean he 1008 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 2: took the exact same salary, not just Dwayne Waye, but 1009 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 2: Chris Bosh. 1010 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: He took the exact same salary. Look Kobe Bryant back. 1011 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 2: In the day when he signed that three year extension 1012 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 2: after blowing out his achilles, I asked him. I asked 1013 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 2: him point playing. I said, Kobe, would you ever take 1014 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 2: less money to, you know, maybe free up some money 1015 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 2: to sign other players? And his answer was, it's not 1016 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: my problem. And you know what, Laker fans had no 1017 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 2: problem either, because he had earned that, at least in 1018 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 2: their minds, for everything he'd given the Lakers over the year. 1019 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: Of course, by his last season, they were a seventeen 1020 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 2: and sixty five basketball team. 1021 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: I just everything you're. 1022 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 2: Saying, I'm on the same page as far as Lebron 1023 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 2: is concerned. But also understand this, at no point of 1024 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: his career as Lebron ever been the highest paid player 1025 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 2: in the NBA. Ever, neither was Tom Brady. Tom Brady 1026 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 2: always took less money, did he not? 1027 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: He was never the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Ever, 1028 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: So don't I don't know. 1029 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 2: I mean, in some respects, I understand Lebron, Lebron's situation, 1030 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 2: but the way this played out this time, I just 1031 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 2: think he was like, don't screw with me, because I'll 1032 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,720 Speaker 2: screw with you guys. And again if you're the Lakers. 1033 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 2: This is why the new ownership is so key for 1034 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 2: the organization. They need to turn the page. I love 1035 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 2: Genie Buss, but you know it's all about her friends 1036 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 2: taking care of people that are loyal to her. 1037 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: Those days are over. 1038 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 3: But here's another thing. When it comes to Lebron James, 1039 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 3: I feel like every organization he's with in is poor, 1040 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 3: like him and pat Riley with the Miami Heat. You 1041 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 3: mentioned the Miami Heat poorly, No. 1042 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, poorly for pat Riley and poorly for Lebron. He 1043 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 2: went to Cleveland and won another championship, right. 1044 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,360 Speaker 3: But then, but then what happened ownership with with Cleveland 1045 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 3: ended poorly, right, Like, I just I feel like there, 1046 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 3: I feel like it's always something. It's like you know, 1047 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 3: you've got these organizations that bend over backwards, pay him 1048 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 3: a ton of money, allow him to you know, decide 1049 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 3: or or be a decisional factor in regard to coaching 1050 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,280 Speaker 3: and roster and that. Like, you know, he pretty much 1051 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 3: is like a pseudo owner on whatever team he's on, 1052 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 3: his group, his you know, posse whatever they get, you know, 1053 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 3: certain treatment, right like can park underneath the stadium whatever. 1054 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 3: It's like, organizations bend over backwards, gives him whatever he wants. 1055 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 3: But then and then and then we're always here. We 1056 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 3: always end up here where it's like. 1057 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 2: Not not on good footing, but they got a championship 1058 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 2: out of it. I guess that's his play. Here's what 1059 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 2: I see in the resume of Lebron James and as 1060 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 2: are someone that has faulted well no seven years, either 1061 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: missing the playoffs or being bounced in the first round. 1062 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 2: Five of those seven years, a flukish run to the 1063 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals where they got swept out by Denver 1064 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, and then the. 1065 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,439 Speaker 1: Bubble Championship, which was never celebrated in La So no, 1066 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean there's and. 1067 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 2: By the way, that was preceded by five losing seasons 1068 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean this, See the Lakers are becoming that myopic 1069 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 2: organization where they still talk about the greatness of the 1070 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: Lakers when the fact is, in the post Doctor Bus era, 1071 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 2: this team is a loser and has been a loser 1072 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 2: far more seasons than a winner. And that's where they 1073 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 2: are right now, and they're trying to get relevant. The 1074 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 2: league did them a huge favor by allowing the Luka 1075 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 2: Doncis steal to come about. 1076 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,320 Speaker 1: This is why I keep waiting for the NFL. 1077 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 2: The NBA front off, the league office is somehow intervene 1078 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 2: here and figured this whole thing out where Lebron can 1079 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 2: win and the Lakers can win. I think there's just 1080 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 2: more people involved than just those in the Laker organization. 1081 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 2: All Right, we'll have more in this later, but coming up, 1082 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna break down more on this and some of 1083 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 2: the other moves that have been made during this free 1084 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 2: agency period around the NBA winners losers. We're gonna break 1085 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 2: it down with Mark Medena or NBA Insider. This is 1086 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin and Anita Marx Here Fox 1087 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We're coming live from the Fox Sports Radio 1088 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 2: studios for the best pregame show every weekend. Be sure 1089 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 2: to tune into Fox Sports Radio's Countdown presented by bet 1090 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 2: MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning from nine am to 1091 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 2: noon Eastern six am to nine am Pacific, going to 1092 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 2: countdown all all the biggest games. Tune into Countdown presented 1093 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,479 Speaker 2: by bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning right here 1094 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Well, speaking 1095 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 2: of the best joining us right now, they can break 1096 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 2: down the NBA and all the craziness that's going on 1097 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 2: right now with free agency. 1098 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: Mark Medina is joining us once again. 1099 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 2: All right, Mark, we got a lot of ground to cover, 1100 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 2: but let's start at the top. Or it could be 1101 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 2: the bottom if you want to look at it that way. 1102 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 2: The Lebron James situation, so again, you know that I 1103 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 2: said Mark at the end of the season after they 1104 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 2: were blown out by Minnesota in the first round, that 1105 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 2: Lebron James had played his last game as Laker. I 1106 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 2: went on, Rick, I say he will never play another 1107 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 2: game as a Laker, and then he signs his player 1108 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: option a week ago, and I'm like, well, maybe I 1109 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 2: was wrong. 1110 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 1: Well, maybe I wasn't wrong. 1111 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 2: So two questions here are the Lakers actively seeking to 1112 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 2: trade Lebron James, And are there any interested parties at 1113 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 2: all for the services of a player who still has 1114 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 2: to be ranked among the top ten or fifteen players 1115 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 2: in this league but comes with a fifty two million 1116 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,720 Speaker 2: dollar price tag for next season. 1117 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, Steeve a lot of good questions you presented here. 1118 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,959 Speaker 4: I don't think the Lakers are actively looking to trade 1119 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 4: Lebron James, but they're certainly listening. But I think what 1120 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 4: the feedback is is that teams are saying, thanks, but 1121 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 4: no thanks. They love Lebron James is a talent, but 1122 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 4: it's not worth having to put up assets at equal 1123 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 4: fifty two million dollars, and I think also the Lakers 1124 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,959 Speaker 4: aren't going to conclude that there's any assets combined that's 1125 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 4: worth it. And so I do still think that he's 1126 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,720 Speaker 4: playing not only with the Lakers to start this season, 1127 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 4: but to end this season. But I think that this 1128 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 4: is the latest example that this is just going to 1129 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 4: be a transactional relationship on both sides. It's that Lebron, 1130 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 4: they'll punch in and punch out and still produce an 1131 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,840 Speaker 4: all Star caliber level, but there might be more oxygen 1132 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 4: stucked out of the room when things don't go his 1133 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 4: way with the roster or team chemistry. And from the 1134 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 4: Lakers standpoint, they'll appreciate what he provides on the court, 1135 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,919 Speaker 4: but they'll also roll their eyes and kind of huff 1136 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 4: and tough in silence and resentment when he is pouting 1137 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,800 Speaker 4: about this. It's just very wild, but not surprising that 1138 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 4: it's gotten to this point because ever since the Luca 1139 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 4: Doca trade, the writing on the wall was that the 1140 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,439 Speaker 4: Lakers are trying to pivot from the Lebron James era. 1141 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 4: But I think in their mind it didn't have to 1142 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 4: be in either or Lebron should still be on the 1143 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 4: team and help pass the torch to Luca, and I 1144 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 4: think that that's what their conclusion is going to be 1145 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 4: moving forward. But his statement certainly didn't help romanticize any 1146 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 4: feelings on other sides. 1147 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 3: So Steve and I were talking before you joined us. 1148 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, if it's 1149 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 3: about winning, Lebron could have should have opted out and 1150 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 3: then go in and play and try to find a 1151 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 3: team that you know would best fit his skill set 1152 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 3: at forty his his load management, that's going to best 1153 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 3: suit him to potentially go in and win another championship, 1154 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 3: and he did not. Kind of do you agree with 1155 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 3: that notion or not? 1156 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 4: I think you make a great point. I think here's 1157 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 4: the problem. Lebron James wants to have his cake and 1158 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 4: eat it too, so he wants to get paid. And 1159 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 4: if he were to opt out, he would see that 1160 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 4: there's not a market for fifty two million dollars for him, 1161 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 4: you know. And I think that the Lakers, you know it, 1162 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 4: it's important for them to take care of star players. 1163 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,399 Speaker 4: In Lebron's defense, he's still playing at a reasonably high level, 1164 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 4: least enough to make an all start team, but he's 1165 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 4: not going to be commanding the kind of top dollar 1166 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 4: that he would get in, you know, earlier in his career. 1167 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 4: And I think, let's be frank, guys, if he did 1168 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 4: take take a pay cut, on one hand, he would 1169 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 4: be lauded for the sacrifice and all that, But if 1170 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 4: it got to the point where it's mid level veterans 1171 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 4: minimum just to join a stacked team already, you know, 1172 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 4: we saw what happened when Kevin Durant joined the Golden 1173 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 4: State Warriors. His championships wouldn't be met with the same 1174 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 4: kind of respect, especially when it comes to goat debate 1175 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 4: as it was in normal circumstances. So you know, I 1176 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 4: don't fault Lebron for that, especially even though he's a billionaire. 1177 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 4: If he wants to be an owner down the line, 1178 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 4: every amount of money he makes is going to count 1179 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 4: toward his ability to do that. But I think with 1180 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 4: him opting in, he should have sent the message, you 1181 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 4: know what, he does want to win a championship, but 1182 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 4: it should be about, hey, I want to help the 1183 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 4: Lakers win a championship season. So you know, again, regardless 1184 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 4: of the decisions he's he's making, it's been unfortunely been 1185 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 4: about he wants to have his cake in. 1186 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 2: Either two and then he had the DeAndre Ayton situation. 1187 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 2: So this is a guy a classic example. He's not alone, 1188 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 2: by the way, and this is in sports across the board, 1189 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 2: where guys put up numbers that you look at the 1190 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 2: surface and like, wow, I mean, this guy's played seven 1191 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 2: years and he has averaged a double double every one 1192 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 2: of those years, every one seven for seven. So you're like, well, 1193 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 2: okay's consistent and he you know, this is what you're 1194 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 2: looking for for a big man. Then you dig a 1195 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 2: little deeper and then you find out that he is 1196 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 2: one of those athletes that literally produces empty numbers. And 1197 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 2: if you really look at it, his best numbers were 1198 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 2: his second year in the league and both rebound and scoring. 1199 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 2: So he made peak here. But here's the problem for 1200 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: the Lakers with the Aighton situation. If he actually has 1201 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 2: a great year, he'll opt out. 1202 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll opt. 1203 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 2: Out, and he'll look for more money elsewhere, and that'll 1204 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 2: be the end of it. If he doesn't pan out, 1205 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 2: you're saddled with him for a second year. I mean, 1206 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 2: to me, I look at this as sort of a 1207 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 2: lose lose. I know, he wasn't their first priority. It 1208 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 2: was sort of just, you know, the last man standing. 1209 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 2: But I don't see any upside at all with DeAndre 1210 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 2: Ayton unless they were to win a championship this season. 1211 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1212 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 4: I mean, here's the thing. This is what happens when 1213 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 4: you sign a wild card player to fulfill your literal 1214 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 4: number one priority that you've set on record to address 1215 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 4: this offseason with getting the center position. Now, part of 1216 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,919 Speaker 4: that had to do with the fact that he's best 1217 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 4: center available. They already struck out on Brook Lopez and 1218 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 4: quint Capella wasn't available. So he settled for planed CD 1219 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 4: or F or whatever. But the point that he made 1220 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 4: about DeAndre and with his numbers is completely on point, 1221 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 4: because if it was just about that, you would think 1222 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 4: he's a great player, he's unstoppable. But the problem is he's 1223 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 4: had a lot of injuries. He doesn't always perform consistently 1224 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 4: when he's, you know, not the number one option, which 1225 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 4: happens a lot. Sometimes he'll get frustrated. And I think 1226 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 4: that this quote that he said to me last year, 1227 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 4: in the midst of being with Portland, having a lot 1228 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 4: of injuries, the scrutiny his time with Phoenix, I asked 1229 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 4: if he had something to prove, and he said, this 1230 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 4: is a direct quoie. He said, I don't have anything 1231 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 4: to prove. I'm a MAX player and I'll continue to 1232 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 4: be a MAX player. That did not sit well with 1233 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 4: people in the organization, and he's not a MAX player 1234 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 4: moving forward. I think it's also telling that there is 1235 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 4: a recipe for him to have a quote unquote bounce 1236 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 4: back year because of the reputation, because of the Lakers 1237 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 4: championship history, and players like Lebron, James and Luca could 1238 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 4: keep him in check. But Chris Paul kept him in 1239 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 4: check in Phoenix, and he bought in, but then he 1240 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 4: soured on it eventually, And so I think it's telling 1241 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 4: talking to Michael Thompson. He's a proud Bahemian. He has 1242 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 4: this kinship with DeAndre and if you know him well, 1243 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 4: Michael is a Laker fan. He's very optimistic and so 1244 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 4: he is of a believer that this will be the 1245 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 4: redemption year. But I think it's very telling that Michael 1246 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 4: talking to him. He talked about DeAndre Aiden's career as underachieving. 1247 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 4: He projected him to be a multi year All Star 1248 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 4: already and he hasn't been that because of what we 1249 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 4: just outlined. He looks straight on paper, but he doesn't 1250 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 4: utilize the talent to the best of his capabilities, and 1251 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 4: a lot of it is self inflicted. 1252 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 3: In looking at the West right, you saw Denver pretty 1253 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 3: much give OKAC their best run for their money in 1254 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 3: the championship. We could sit here and argue if Haliburton 1255 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 3: wouldn't have gone down, maybe the Patiers would be the 1256 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 3: champions right now. I love what Houston did bringing in Katie, 1257 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 3: and I like the moves that Denver made. If there 1258 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 3: is a team outside the Lakers that you think can 1259 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 3: upset the Apple Cart with OKC. 1260 01:01:59,320 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: Who is it? 1261 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's what you mentioned. I would put 1262 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 4: Houston the best team to challenge Okasee. And it's not 1263 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 4: just Kevin Durant, who's obviously a huge player, because you 1264 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 4: know he's had injury concerns ever since injuring his achilles 1265 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen, but went on the floor. He's still 1266 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 4: one of the most efficient scorers in the league. But 1267 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 4: also what Houston didn't give up. They still have Aman Thompson, 1268 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 4: who's a great wing player, one of the fastest players 1269 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 4: in the league. They still have Alfern Goun who's morphing 1270 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 4: into a very elite center. They have a great coach 1271 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 4: in Imo Odoka, who's turned the teams the defensive identity around. 1272 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 4: They also have another championship tested player, Bred van Leek, 1273 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 4: great competitor, great locker room guy, great two way player. 1274 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 4: I would put Denver Dennis third because you have an 1275 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 4: MVP candidate in Nikoleokat Shamal Murray is healthier. The fact 1276 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 4: that they traded Michael Porter Junior is huge because he 1277 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 4: was a great player, great scorer, but he's an inconsistent defender, 1278 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 4: and he also had a lot of injuries throughout his career. 1279 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 4: But the fact that they're able to get Cam Johnson, 1280 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 4: who is much more consistent as a two way player, 1281 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 4: automatically thrust Denver back to the mix. You also throw 1282 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 4: in the fact that they got Bruce Burrow Bowen in 1283 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 4: the free agency market after losing him in free agency 1284 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 4: two years ago. He was a very important wing defender 1285 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 4: on their championship team in twenty twenty three. So as 1286 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 4: of right now, I would put OKC number one, and 1287 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 4: then number two Huston and then Denver three, and the 1288 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 4: rest of the West is kind of up for perhaps 1289 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 4: at this point. 1290 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: I know we're up against the clock. 1291 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 2: I got to sneak in one more, Anita, and I 1292 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 2: gotta do this Yannis. Obviously they dumbed the Lillard. I 1293 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 2: don't know why you'd be upset because he can't play 1294 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 2: next year. You bring in Miles Turner, who's a solid player. 1295 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 2: Didn't cost you an arm in a leg to get 1296 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 2: Miles Turner. Is janis happy enough to want to stay 1297 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. You look at his deal he signed through 1298 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 2: twenty seven. Then he's got the player option for the 1299 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty eight season, and how's this all 1300 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,919 Speaker 2: going to play out for Giannis and Milwaukee. 1301 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 4: We'll make it quick staved per the clock, per Christains. 1302 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 4: Giannis isn't happy that they waved Damian Lillward, but it's fine. 1303 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 4: He wasn't gonna play next season anyway because of those chilies. 1304 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 4: Dame's actually fine with that because open slate of rehabbing 1305 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 4: options and he's still going to get paid. I don't 1306 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 4: think Giannis is going to be upset enough to request 1307 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 4: a trade, though, because it's in his nature to be loyal. 1308 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 4: But they did get Miles Turner. He's a great center, 1309 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 4: and so there's a lot of question marks about the Bucks. 1310 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 4: But I do think the Bucks should trade Gianness just 1311 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 4: to start over. They've lost three consecutive first round exits. 1312 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 4: But I don't think Giannis is going to be angry 1313 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 4: enough to say that one out. 1314 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 2: All right, great stuff, as always, Mark, very busy around 1315 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 2: the association. 1316 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Well check in with you next week. We appreciate it, Mark, thank. 1317 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 4: You, Dave and need to the best appreciate it. 1318 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 2: That's Mark Medina there, oh, Anita, we got a lot 1319 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 2: to talk about it on the other side. 1320 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: But first, but first, let's find out what is trending 1321 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: right now? Why do you look different to me all 1322 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden? 1323 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 5: Do you put your glasses on? 1324 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 6: Well? 1325 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 5: I do that to read. Those are my readers. I 1326 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 5: can't see that well. 1327 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 10: I mean, I just I don't know. I can't answer 1328 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 10: the question. Steve, I'm not inside that. 1329 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: Uh looks like he tilted his black Dodgers cap farther 1330 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 1: back on his head. I was going to say, is 1331 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 1: it a busy day today? Eh? 1332 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean ESPN is showing the Savannah Bananas right now. 1333 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 2: So they're the hottest team in baseball. Apparently they sold 1334 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 2: that Angel Stadium twice. I think the Angels could do that. 1335 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 10: No, in fact, I know they can't do that right now. 1336 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 10: I went to an Angels Tigers game earlier this season, 1337 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 10: and it was more to park than it was to 1338 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:42,919 Speaker 10: actually watch the game. 1339 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's but they're very popular. I love that stuff. 1340 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1341 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 10: So, we had actually two of the best teams in 1342 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 10: baseball playing right now, the Detroit Tigers and the Los 1343 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 10: Angeles Dodgers. Spent with Torkolsen just hit a home run 1344 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 10: to give the Tigers and won nothing lead over the 1345 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 10: Guardians show. Hey, so tiny pitching and hitting. Today's fifteen 1346 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 10: pitches into his second inning on. 1347 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 5: A three to two count with nobody out. 1348 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 10: I think gave up a hit in his first Yeah, 1349 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 10: gave up, excuse me, one hit in the top of 1350 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 10: the first inning. 1351 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 5: But back out there now and yeah for one inning. 1352 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 10: Pitch complete, but he's as he delivers his the payoff 1353 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 10: pitch to the first batter of the second inning. But 1354 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 10: earlier today we saw the Twins beat the Ray six 1355 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 10: to five, Cardinals beat the Clubs eight to six, Blue 1356 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 10: Jays and extras four to three over the Angels, Red 1357 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 10: Sox ten to three over the Nationals, Phillies five to 1358 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 10: one over the Reds in extras. The Orioles beat the 1359 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 10: Braves nine to six. That was a six to six 1360 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 10: game for a most of it. The Mets just took 1361 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 10: care of the Yankees twelve to six. Yankees in a 1362 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 10: world of hurt. Recently, and the Diamondbacks beat the Royals 1363 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 10: seven to one. Clark Schmidt expected to undergo Tommy John surgery. 1364 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 10: Aaron Aaron Boone said that he had torn ucl and 1365 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 10: At Wimbledon, Novak Jokovic became the third player in the 1366 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 10: history of the Grass Tournament to reach one hundred victories 1367 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 10: as he advances to the fourth round, so does Ben Shelton. 1368 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 5: Mike Brown, New York Knicks. 1369 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 10: Head coach, reportedly for four years forty million dollars. 1370 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 5: His new contract. It's not bad work, I can get 1371 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 5: to Steve. 1372 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 1: No, No, that's not a bad job at all. 1373 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 2: Good stuff. I always appreciate Martin. Thank you very very much. 1374 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 1: And you got your show coming up with Zach Harper 1375 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: right after ours. Looking forward to that. Once again. 1376 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,840 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Anita Marks 1377 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 2: with you, coming to live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. 1378 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 1: Don't forget after the show. 1379 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 2: The podcast is going up, So if you miss any 1380 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 2: of today's show, check out the podcast. Search Fox Sports 1381 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get to podcasts, and follow and review 1382 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 2: the podcast. 1383 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 1: Rate it five stars of course. 1384 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 2: Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get to 1385 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 2: podcasts and you see today's show posted right after we 1386 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 2: get off the air. 1387 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: Keep in our eye on show. 1388 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 2: Hey Otani right now, Anita, and he's in his second inning. 1389 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 1: This is his fourth start. 1390 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 2: First two starts one inning each, last start two innings. 1391 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 2: He's gonna go two innings again today. 1392 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 1: Do you get excited? About baseball. 1393 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 2: I mean, is it something that you really get excited about. 1394 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 2: I know, from a gambling standpoint, baseball is a tricky sport. 1395 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 2: I've known people that make money on baseball, a lot 1396 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 2: of money actually, but it's not something that people are 1397 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 2: always talking about. As I mentioned, when we talk about countdown, 1398 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 2: they're talking WNBA, not Major League Baseball. 1399 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 6: Right. 1400 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 3: By the way, the Dodgers, I had them on the 1401 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 3: money line coming into this matchup at minus one, considering 1402 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 3: they got spanked yesterday in their own ballpark. Tani, I 1403 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 3: do believe he's going to have a longer leash today. 1404 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 3: The bullpen at full disposal. I think we see Tanner, 1405 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,599 Speaker 3: Scott Houston, has Valdez. He's got a forty eight percent 1406 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,639 Speaker 3: hard hit rate, which is bottom ten major League Baseball 1407 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,719 Speaker 3: against this Dodgers lineup. So I do like the Dodgers. 1408 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 3: As you said, they're already up one to zero top 1409 01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,680 Speaker 3: of the second. But to answer your question, I live 1410 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 3: here in New York. I have to be dude. 1411 01:08:59,280 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. 1412 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 2: Well, by the way, the Mets did a number on 1413 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 2: the Yankees today. 1414 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:05,919 Speaker 1: What's wrong with the Yankees? 1415 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 3: Well, now Schmidt, they're saying he's gonna have Tommy John 1416 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 3: So now you know. 1417 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: By the way, okay, can I stop you for a 1418 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 1: second here. 1419 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 2: So I grew up a million years ago when actually 1420 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,559 Speaker 2: pitchers through complete games, I mean, as many as thirty 1421 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 2: complete games in a year was not outrageous by any stretch. 1422 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 2: I remember one year Mickey Loulitch with the Tigers through 1423 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy six innings in one season, three 1424 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,400 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six. We were talking about this other 1425 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 2: day because I was at the Kershaw game. 1426 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,599 Speaker 1: Well, I was sort of there. 1427 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 2: I was doing TV, so one of those things where 1428 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 2: I was doing a preview and a lie from Dodgers 1429 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,640 Speaker 2: Stadium on TV for the four of the five to 1430 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 2: six o'clock I was there out there right and then 1431 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 2: you know, but they say, well, you got to get 1432 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 2: back to the studio by eight to fifteen. We got 1433 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 2: some rehearsal stuff you gotta do. I got no problem. 1434 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,640 Speaker 2: Three innings against the White Sox. He'll get three strikeouts 1435 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 2: at three innings. No, he didn't. And I had a 1436 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 2: leave and I actually missed the moment when he got 1437 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 2: to three thousand. By the way, if starting pitching, he 1438 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,759 Speaker 2: continues as it is, he will be the last pitcher 1439 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 2: with three thousand strikeouts. 1440 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 1: Just do the math. 1441 01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 2: They're not even going to pitch enough innings for any 1442 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 2: pitcher ever to get to three thousand career strikeouts. But 1443 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,520 Speaker 2: it just seems crazy. I mean, the Dodgers arm injuries everywhere. 1444 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 2: The less these guys pitch, the greater the degree of injuries. 1445 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 2: I mean, the old time, they never had these kind 1446 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 2: of injuries. Ever, these guys could pitch year after year, 1447 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,520 Speaker 2: two fifty two, seventy. 1448 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,760 Speaker 1: To three hundred innings year after year. Well, what did 1449 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: they throw his hard? That's the point, in other words, 1450 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 1: the idea of a pitcher. I remember many conversations with 1451 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: pitcher and this was like in the early nineties when 1452 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,440 Speaker 1: already we're seeing a slight transition in terms of expecting 1453 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,799 Speaker 1: pitchers to go nine innings, maybe it was eight innings 1454 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 1: or seven innings. 1455 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 2: And the pitchers that would go nineties always say this, Anita, Look, 1456 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 2: every bat, we would set up the hitter for the 1457 01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 2: next to bat. So I'm looking at the lineup, I'm 1458 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 2: going in the mindset I'm going to see this guy 1459 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 2: three or four times during the course of the game. 1460 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 2: So the way I pitch him the first time is 1461 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 2: going to be different than the second time, and you're 1462 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 2: not just sitting there trying to throw the ball one 1463 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour on every pitch. I don't know 1464 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 2: where where are the analytics here? You're paying an insane 1465 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 2: amount of money because all these contracts are. 1466 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 1: Guaranteed for zero production. It doesn't make any sense. 1467 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 2: I don't know who came up with the analytics that 1468 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 2: you don't you know, like swing as hard as you can. 1469 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 2: It is the best thing to do if you strike 1470 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 2: out all the time, or just throw the ball as 1471 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 2: hard as gam for as long as you can. 1472 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 1: It's stupidity. 1473 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 2: And so it just drives me nuts that somehow people 1474 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 2: are making millions of dollars laying out these analytics that 1475 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:48,600 Speaker 2: are costing these franchises millions of dollars in unproductive salary. 1476 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 3: It's just and we see this. It's you know, in 1477 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 3: the NBA now it's become a three point shooting game, 1478 01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 3: right in Major League Baseball. You know, it's it's it's 1479 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,880 Speaker 3: about the hundred mile per hour fastball. And you know 1480 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 3: you're forcing your body to throw a ball in a 1481 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 3: very unnatural nature that your body was not built to do. 1482 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 3: And doing that consistently, it's gonna break down and you're 1483 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 3: gonna get injured. So no, it's it's it's not it's 1484 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,839 Speaker 3: not the wisest thing. But to go back to your question, 1485 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 3: you know it's unfortunate. I don't know why baseball. Well, 1486 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 3: I okay. One of my beliefs is the reason that 1487 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,440 Speaker 3: I think the w n b A is so successful 1488 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 3: is because now you've got this like, you know, larger 1489 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,479 Speaker 3: than life, Caitlin Clark, that's taken over the world. Right, 1490 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 3: so now people are watching, Uh the w n b A. 1491 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,880 Speaker 3: Major League Baseball doesn't have that player. I like, like, 1492 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,559 Speaker 3: I think it's. 1493 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 1: Really what about does he move the needle? 1494 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 3: Who know who can? Who can connect with him? 1495 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:02,720 Speaker 5: Right? 1496 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,799 Speaker 3: He's got a translator, you don't. You don't see him 1497 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 3: on a lot of Major League baseball is missing personalities 1498 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 3: that people can connect to and and like or hate 1499 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:23,759 Speaker 3: and want to watch either have success or have major failure. 1500 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:28,400 Speaker 3: They don't have those people. They don't have those athletes, 1501 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:33,440 Speaker 3: so nobody's tuning in. It's it really, it's it's it's unfortunate. 1502 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 3: It really is unfortunate. I mean, you can't you look 1503 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 3: at the stadiums, you look at city. You look at 1504 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 3: at Yankee Stadium, seats are empty. Folks don't want to 1505 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,640 Speaker 3: go to baseball games anymore. It's not the same Steve. 1506 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 2: All right, So I'm one hundred percent on the same 1507 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,080 Speaker 2: page with you on the Otani situation for much of 1508 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 2: the reasons you do. 1509 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 1: This is what I mean. People might take this the 1510 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 1: wrong way. Don't. It's just a fact. 1511 01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,719 Speaker 2: The fact is is that if you're a foreign born 1512 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 2: player and speak a different language, and you have value 1513 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,439 Speaker 2: to an American team, where obviously more people speak English 1514 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,120 Speaker 2: than any other language here in this country, you need 1515 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,559 Speaker 2: to learn the language. I remember Fernando Vevenezuela, so he 1516 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 2: broke in. This was a nineteen twenty year old kid. 1517 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 2: He had an interpreter for three years. By year four, 1518 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,799 Speaker 2: Fernando was speaking English. I remember I Vladimir Guerrero played 1519 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 2: seventeen years in Major League baseball, never uttered a word 1520 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,679 Speaker 2: of English, which is one of the reasons he wasn't 1521 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,640 Speaker 2: a marketable player, even if he was a Hall of 1522 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 2: Fame player. And now we got sho Heyo Tani seven 1523 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 2: eight years in a Major League baseball celebrating, by the way, 1524 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:46,040 Speaker 2: his thirty first birthday today. Why is there still an interpreter. 1525 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 3: There that probably doesn't want to doesn't want that. 1526 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 1: You can't tell, well, you can't tell. I know he 1527 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 1: knows English speak it. It would make a world. 1528 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,120 Speaker 2: Of difference from a marketing standpoint. You know, the doctors 1529 01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,600 Speaker 2: aren't going to do anything that's disrupt I get it. 1530 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 1: I mean, he'd have. 1531 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 3: More requests for interviews, he'd be asked to do more. 1532 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 3: Probably doesn't want it. It probably doesn't want it. And like, 1533 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna use this as an example. I'm totally 1534 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,320 Speaker 3: different sport, individual sport, not a team sport, but still 1535 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 3: kind of It's still I find it fascinating with what's 1536 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 3: happened with Bryson D. Shambeau went as one of the 1537 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 3: most hated golfers, hated right like the mad scientist right like, 1538 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 3: and was very self absorbed. Thought he knew it all, 1539 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,880 Speaker 3: designed his own clubs, knew it better than anyone else. 1540 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,439 Speaker 3: And then and then the PGA Tour came out and said, hey, 1541 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,759 Speaker 3: whoever gets the most followers, whoever gets the most social 1542 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 3: media interaction, gets an extra million dollars three million dollars 1543 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 3: at the end of the year. Bryson D. Shambo dove 1544 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 3: into that like nobody's business. Now everyone loves him. 1545 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: He's the guy out side. That's the joke of the 1546 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, yes, this is the PGA Tour 1547 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: anything still loved. 1548 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:02,880 Speaker 4: But whenever he. 1549 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 3: Plays in a major he's got more people following him. 1550 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 1: He's signing all the autographs. 1551 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 6: He scutty, I. 1552 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 3: Know, but why Because he's become a personality that people 1553 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 3: can connect to through social All. 1554 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 2: I know is if if you work for a company 1555 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,200 Speaker 2: and you're a high profile employee of that company, they're 1556 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,800 Speaker 2: always going to ask you to go the extra mile. 1557 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,519 Speaker 2: That's normal, but apparently not in the sports world. All right, 1558 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, Anita, I'm gonna hold 1559 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,600 Speaker 2: you to it. Some plays coming up. I'm keeping an 1560 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 2: eye right now on this Sparks Fever game. Tight score 1561 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,679 Speaker 2: right now, three minutes to go in the second quarter. 1562 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin and Anita Marks 1563 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday once again live from the Fox Sports 1564 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 2: Radio studios. Want to thank our crew today, Martin Weiss 1565 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 2: getting ready for a show with Carrie Rhodes. I understand. 1566 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,760 Speaker 2: So you and Carrie coming up next right here on 1567 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Mary Mack uh to be Mary Mack. 1568 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,639 Speaker 2: She just has fun in life, and that's the way 1569 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,080 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be. Ian also has fun as our producer, 1570 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 2: but sometimes he gets pretty serious. What sort of comes 1571 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,519 Speaker 2: with the job. I understand that, Ian, But great job 1572 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 2: by everybody out there, by the way, Anita. These days, 1573 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 2: I split my time between La and Phoenix. I'm in 1574 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 2: LA because I got a ton of TV work over 1575 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,599 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, but I will be heading 1576 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 2: back to Phoenix Wednesday. The temperature that day will be 1577 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:44,679 Speaker 2: one fifteen fifteen, yeah, one fifty. But it's a dry heat, 1578 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 2: you know, well, it seemed like a lot of chapstick. 1579 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,640 Speaker 2: It's not even that people like I said, there's like 1580 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:56,800 Speaker 2: zero percent humidity. You know, it's dry. It's like it's 1581 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 2: like oven heat as what I call it. You know, 1582 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 2: like we're you you are, you're gonna get humidity. My son, 1583 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,800 Speaker 2: my oldest son, was just in New York a couple 1584 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and it was just unbearable, he said. 1585 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 2: With the humidity was right through the roof. Oh yeah, 1586 01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 2: he said, it was ninety percent human It's like two 1587 01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 2: two three weeks ago. 1588 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 5: Two weeks ago. 1589 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 1: He was there and the humidity was off the charts. 1590 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 2: Uh, you sense pictures. I mean when you're not grilling, 1591 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,120 Speaker 2: I mean you're enjoying the pool time. 1592 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 1: It looks beautiful. I mean, blue skies and everything else 1593 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 1: look wonderful. 1594 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 3: Isn't that a fun pool? 1595 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 1: That is a fun pool? Yes, it is. 1596 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,640 Speaker 3: It's it's I tried to like, you know, it's an 1597 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 3: above ground pool, and I try to explain it. It's 1598 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,160 Speaker 3: kind of it's like adult swinkie pool. 1599 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,800 Speaker 1: Yea, right, but it but it works. But it is 1600 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 1: the humidity intense right now? 1601 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,519 Speaker 3: Or no, we've had we've had a horrible spring. I 1602 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,679 Speaker 3: mean the amount of rain, the amount of rain we've 1603 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 3: had here is just it's it's it's definitely it's. Uh, 1604 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 3: it's what's the word I'm looking for. It's put a 1605 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 3: damper on my pickleball game. 1606 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you're pick a ball game. Yeah, yep, yeah, 1607 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,880 Speaker 2: you gotta be careful with that halftime. By the way, 1608 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,799 Speaker 2: Fever leading the Sparks by. 1609 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 3: Three and the Dodgers are up now two. Oh how 1610 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 3: long do you think Otani goes? 1611 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,360 Speaker 1: They said yesterday he was only going to go two winnings. 1612 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 1: That's it. 1613 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:13,280 Speaker 5: That's all. 1614 01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,120 Speaker 1: They said he was going to do two winnings. 1615 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 2: They didn't use anybody, like I said, so weird with 1616 01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,800 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, you know, here they are with the best 1617 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,800 Speaker 2: record in baseball game ahead of the Tigers and keithke 1618 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 2: A Hernandez and Miguel Rojas, two position players have each 1619 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 2: pitched in like half a. 1620 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 1: Dozen games this year. 1621 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 2: Like either they're blowing out somebody or they're getting blown 1622 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,240 Speaker 2: out because they've run out of arms. They are supposedly 1623 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 2: getting glass now back soon. He pitched a really good 1624 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 2: game minor league rehab start, so he'll be back soon, 1625 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 2: you know. But obviously they're not going to take any 1626 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,839 Speaker 2: chance of Otani. What they want is a healthy Otani 1627 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 2: come October. That's their priority. They're not worried about games 1628 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,960 Speaker 2: right now when you're sitting atop the West by what 1629 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,600 Speaker 2: six or seven games. So yeah, they're not going to 1630 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,800 Speaker 2: force Outani. I mean, he wants to pitch more, they're 1631 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,439 Speaker 2: just not going to let him yet. It'll come soon. 1632 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 2: Any other games you like to tout coming up here 1633 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 2: on the Ledger this week? Anything spark your interest? 1634 01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,040 Speaker 3: No, And I like what you did there, because the 1635 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 3: Sparks are down by three at the half but not. 1636 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 3: I mean, really, what's going on? 1637 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's my whole point. 1638 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's just w n B A 1639 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 2: w NBA WNBA, that's all it is. I mean, it's 1640 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 2: just unreal how we've suddenly come to a time where 1641 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 2: people are like, give me some give me some WNBA 1642 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,640 Speaker 2: fan for me, SIM want to make a bet. 1643 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,720 Speaker 3: This is this is, this is what we've amounted to. 1644 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,680 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the games tomorrow. I mean, listen, you've 1645 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 3: you've got the Liberty at home against the storm and 1646 01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,800 Speaker 3: Liberty are favored by five and a half at home. 1647 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,240 Speaker 3: I like the Liberty going Liberty. 1648 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 5: There it is. 1649 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 2: We'll break down all the WNB four and it's great 1650 01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,720 Speaker 2: to catch up with you. As always, We'll do it 1651 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,519 Speaker 2: again down the line. Keep it here on Fox Sports Radio.