00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no, guest, your presences presents enough that I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineker. I hope I haven't found you a rock bottom as usual, but if I have, that's fine. You know, who cares. Maybe you're at rock bottom, maybe or not. Maybe you're just driving around having a nice time. Either way, this is the beginning of the podcast. So you have about an hour ahead of you of listening to me, and you also have about an hour ahead of you of listening to our guest, who I'm beyond thrilled to have, none other than Casey Wilson. Casey, Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 00:01:28 Speaker 3: Hi Bridger, I'm so happy to be here. 00:01:30 Speaker 4: Hello. 00:01:31 Speaker 2: How are you? 00:01:33 Speaker 4: I mean? 00:01:34 Speaker 3: You know I'm not at rock bottom? 00:01:36 Speaker 2: You're not at rockbo You look wonderful. 00:01:39 Speaker 4: God bless you. I'm just above it. You're just about rock but I'm like one one step above it. 00:01:48 Speaker 2: Have you have you been at rock bottom in the last I imagine you have in the last nine months or so. 00:01:53 Speaker 4: Ton A, ton I'm very comfortable there. But I don't know if you talk politics. But I'm riding the excitement and the happiness of Georgia, and that's. 00:02:04 Speaker 2: Where I'm right. 00:02:05 Speaker 3: I'm sticking with that in my soul right now. 00:02:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that despite there being a flashier story in the news right now, the big, the big story we can hold on to for hope this week is that Georgia, Yes, and things are slowly turning around. 00:02:23 Speaker 4: I mean glacially, at a glacial pace. 00:02:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, just making a forty point turn to turn around. We're backing the car up, We're pulling it forward. 00:02:33 Speaker 4: Back up. I mean, yesterday was just such a roller coaster of events that yeah, wow, wow, wow, Wow, it was. 00:02:42 Speaker 2: You know, it's equal parts horrifying and so stupid. Yes, it sounds very difficult to know how to even feel. 00:02:50 Speaker 4: I know, I yes, I totally agree. I'm not a huge drinker. I used to be, but I'm not. But yesterday about four pm, my husband and I were like, We're going to have a drink. This is ridiculous. 00:03:00 Speaker 3: Everything that's happened today, Like we've felt every emotion. 00:03:04 Speaker 2: Yes, actually, speaking of drinking this is this is something I need to ask you about not drinking alcohol. But I've heard that you're not a You refuse to drink water. Is this true or false? 00:03:16 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I don't refuse. 00:03:20 Speaker 4: I don't care for it. 00:03:22 Speaker 2: You don't care for water, so you just don't drink water very often. 00:03:24 Speaker 3: Look, I have this behind me. 00:03:26 Speaker 4: I always have a water close at hand, but a lot of it is for show. And I really hate what. I really hate bridger And this is going to seem like why would you hate this? There's nothing wrong with this, In fact, it's good. And I hate to also say it's normally women, and that hurts to say because I love women so very much. But when women are clutching these water bottles so smugly, like we get it that you're hydrated, Like what do you want me to say or do? Here? And again I know this is projecting and somehow it's triggering me and I don't know why, but I just hate like how big the water bottles are getting in all of it, the whole, just a lot surrounding water. And again, I'm very lucky to be had to have access to water of course. 00:04:08 Speaker 2: Of course, Well, and I assume you're hydrated. You're drinking something totally. 00:04:15 Speaker 4: I'm drinking an orange nectarine naturally flavored soda. 00:04:19 Speaker 2: It's got water in it. 00:04:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like a sparkling water. 00:04:23 Speaker 4: I just find it. Something about it makes me feel claustrophobic. And I installed a new water filtration system to try to enhance the water experience. I'm really trying because again I feel I'm at rock bottom a lot, and many have suggested its hydration. 00:04:40 Speaker 2: It's shocking to me because you you have like flawless skin and people are always talking about you need to be hydrated. But I feel like you should be the poster girl for dehydration. 00:04:50 Speaker 3: God bless you. 00:04:51 Speaker 4: I mean the zoom touch up. Your appearance has been jacked to the if anything, I think I'm looking like it's a a little like okay, But again, I need to be better with water. I've been hospitalized twice for dehydration. Wait, yeah, yeah, and this is it's not good. I just telling sharing with you the facts. Once in college, after a theater production, have you done shows you know where it's like tech week. 00:05:19 Speaker 2: Oh, I've never done live theater outside of a fifth grade performance of leam Is and the Tempest. 00:05:27 Speaker 3: Wait, you tackled lame Is and the Tempest in fifth grade. 00:05:30 Speaker 2: These were highly modified versions of both Lams was the play. They did it as a play and somehow, yeah, I don't know how that worked out. And then I'm more true to the book the Tempest. But that was the end of my theater career. 00:05:43 Speaker 3: Wow, wow, I'm very impressed. 00:05:47 Speaker 4: Well in theater, there is a thing called tech Week, which is the week right before the show opens, and it's like crazy, but again, the actors love how crazy it is, right, which is it's also like, all right, guys, it's. 00:05:57 Speaker 2: A real actor an actor thing. 00:06:00 Speaker 4: But no one thought no one was more exhilarated by the craze of it all than me. And I just wasn't drinking water, you know, I'm like, I don't have time, and then literally like almost fainted. Yeah, And then another time it happened, I was like coming off a flight and hadn't drink water on a like six hour flight, and then the whole day and then I pulse was low. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: So so did they just hook an ivy up to you and water? 00:06:28 Speaker 4: Pretty much? David was with me, my husband for the second time, and he's just like this is a disgrace, like this is sad, people need this room. It's just utterly ridiculous diagnosis. And they put on the form it was like cause of I don't know what they say, like what some more formal term of like reason for being here, and it just they simply wrote water. They're not even gonna like use technical terms or just water. 00:06:55 Speaker 2: I feel like you and David, your husband, David, as far as I know, only eats cheeseburgers. Yeah, I feel like the two of you are both going to die of dietary reasons. 00:07:06 Speaker 4: I know, Bridger, I know you're right. I know you're right, and I scream in him all the time about this, but then he doesn't do anything about that, and I don't do anything about this. 00:07:17 Speaker 2: Well, hopefully just one of you goes and it'll be a wake up call for the other one. 00:07:22 Speaker 4: I mean, I hope it doesn't come to that. You know, we have two small children, but yeah, I. 00:07:26 Speaker 2: Know, going back, I decided today to look up when we were initially scheduled to record this podcast, because you were supposed to be one of the early guests, and I think you were going to record in March of twenty twenty, and then the pandemic hit, and then it is now this episode will air in late January, I believe. So it's been a near year in this process. Right, You've written a book in this time, as far as I know, You've filmed at least one television series. 00:07:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, I filmed two television series, one book, and I've been hospitalized three times for dehydrating. 00:08:05 Speaker 3: Now a lot has happened, and of course a quarantine and. 00:08:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and maybe it did quarantine help with the book? 00:08:12 Speaker 4: It did. I think I had some time where I was like, well, I have to do this, you know, and I got like away from my kid's a bit and I did. I mean, I'm a relentless worker and it's not a quality I love. 00:08:23 Speaker 2: I just you know, I think that's a fine quality. 00:08:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is what it is. 00:08:28 Speaker 2: I mean opposite. 00:08:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. 00:08:32 Speaker 2: And I feel like you live a fairly balanced life. You don't see you don't like come off as a workaholic. 00:08:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think I do so. 00:08:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, I worked on it. It was pretty helpful. Actually. 00:08:44 Speaker 2: Wait, so you've been what TV series The Shrink next Door? 00:08:48 Speaker 4: Yes, that and is that the only one. Well, I filmed a movie. Maybe that's what I was thinking about. Sorry, I was not trying to give wrong information. I filmed a full movie, but it was like a zoom movie and we had a crew member assigned to us and three cameras. I was like, I think pretty big people in it. And it was just wild. We were doing our own makeup and touch ups and clapstick and and it was just wild. You know, it's a lot of older actors, including myself. We could not figure out one technical element. So I filmed that for like a couple of weeks in my house and I'd be like, my kids are coming, we have to get this. And then they played my kids and it was just wild. 00:09:26 Speaker 2: Out of control. Yeah, what is your book about? 00:09:29 Speaker 4: Thank you for asking. Well, I appreciate it. If you're like, this isn't a plug, it's just conversation. 00:09:37 Speaker 2: I mean, I appreciated just having a normal conversation about a I would love for you to come in with a real promoting energy, though I'm going. 00:09:44 Speaker 4: To I cannot, like I said, to work. It's called The Wreckage of My Presence, and it's just about kind of some of my childhood my parents are wild, wild people. How so they're just wild. I mean, I get it goes on and on. Like my father got a leader in life perm because he wanted to look like Andrew Jackson on the twenty four bills. A lot going on with them. They're characters. 00:10:10 Speaker 2: I'm trying to picture what Andrew Jackson even looks like. 00:10:13 Speaker 4: Well, he has like white hair that's kind of a full bodied hairdoo. It's kind of down to his shoulders. And my dad found a twenty on the street. It wasn't even in his wallet, and he was like, that guy looks like me, and he looks great. And he took the twenty into his hairdresser and he said, Jackson me the same way I would bring like Jennifer Aniston's photo. 00:10:34 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like the only real good haircut on a piece of currency is the dime with FDR? Is that FDR? He's got like a nice just crew cut. 00:10:45 Speaker 4: Right right? 00:10:46 Speaker 3: Just keeping it simple, Just keep it simple. 00:10:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you can draw inspiration anywhere, you know, for your hair. 00:10:54 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess abe Lincoln had a decent for the time period, a decent hair style. 00:10:57 Speaker 4: All right for the time. Yeah. 00:11:00 Speaker 2: Otherwise the rest of these men are wearing wigs or just didn't have access to barbers. So I don't know that taking that in for your hairstyle inspirations. 00:11:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was an odd choice. And my dad it's like a fuller barreled perm, you know, like a weave er, And he sent my brother and I just a photo of it mid process because he knew we would try to talk about of it. And we just see this photo. I'm like, what is this? My Dad's got like boils in his air and tight rollers and hot rollers, and that's how we found. 00:11:30 Speaker 2: Out how long did the perm last? 00:11:32 Speaker 4: A wawsle? I mean, oh, he loved it. He looked at he said, I look terrific. Yeah, he looked. He loved it. 00:11:42 Speaker 2: Are your parents still together? 00:11:44 Speaker 3: Well, my mom actually passed away like fifteen years ago. 00:11:46 Speaker 4: Now, oh okay, But she was a character too, and so the book is sort of about my childhood. There were just huge personalities my parents and quite quite made themselves known in our town, and and then just about my life and the wreckage behind and how I'm a very a person of excess right stories about I don't know what I live a celebratory life, I think rather unapologetically thank you. 00:12:15 Speaker 2: And I obviously you have your podcast Bitch Sesh, which focuses on the Housewives. Sure, I have held off on the Housewives as long as humanly possible, but have recently given in to the because I'm from Utah, the Housewives of Salt Lake City, and I just want to know what your general feelings on this new series in comparison to the rest of the show. 00:12:36 Speaker 4: I want to hear your feelings. 00:12:38 Speaker 2: Oh, I have a lot of big feelings. 00:12:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine it's triggering. It's I love it. I don't want to tell you absolutely love it. I love Salt Lake I love the way the snow sparkles like diamonds. I love how the cutaways too. It's not like New York City, where it's like Times Square or Central Park. They're like, here's the Mormon Church. Here's I find it so insane. I love the women. They're all crazy and wonderful. A lot of them have left the Mormon. 00:13:06 Speaker 2: Church, right, I mean, as far as I can tell, none of these women are currently active members of the LDS Church except for is it Lisa Lisa. Yes, It's like she's really playing it. Loose. 00:13:21 Speaker 4: She's got to kill a company, you know, she I just right off the bat, How can you not love it? She's like, I'm Jewish by heritage, Mormon by choice. Right, thank you for that. 00:13:33 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had tried getting into the Housewives before and it never clicked for me. But now I'm just outside of missing last night's episode fully on board. Every one of these women has something wrong in their own special way, and I'm I'm pooked. 00:13:52 Speaker 4: I can you like any of them? 00:13:54 Speaker 2: Do I like them? 00:13:55 Speaker 5: Like? 00:13:56 Speaker 2: Even just when you say that, you're asking, like, are there any of them that I would want to spend time with? 00:14:01 Speaker 4: Well? No, that I know, like that, we know. I'm just curious if because some people watch the shows just simply to hate them, I come to sometimes find a soft spot for some of them and have this weird like rooting for them, embarrassed for them. You can change on a dime with them, Well, just for me. 00:14:18 Speaker 2: The one that I feel some level of sympathy slash embarrassment for it almost all times is Heather. I feel like. 00:14:27 Speaker 4: You feel embarrassment for Heather. 00:14:29 Speaker 2: I feel like she's trying very hard, wow, trying to be a housewife. 00:14:37 Speaker 3: Rather authentic book, Okay, go on, it go on. 00:14:39 Speaker 2: Interesting. I just feel like she is trying to prove something, okay, in a big way at all times. 00:14:48 Speaker 4: And having left the church, I think she's always genuinely trying to prove Like, yeah, no, I see that. I just think she's the most having, if I may, a bit of a historian on the topic and seeing the. 00:14:58 Speaker 2: Cannon, you're obviously the expert. 00:15:00 Speaker 4: No, I totally hear what you're saying. But she is, when I tell you, Bridger, the most down to earth relatable human we have had on this franchise ever. I mean the fact that she's like, oh, I like to eat and I like my sliders, and I'm looking for her love, and to me, she just seems a little more palatable for me, like it's like a nice relationship with her daughters, whereas most of the women I'm like, oh, you're a monster. 00:15:27 Speaker 2: The I mean, for example, Jen and a Mary both are I mean fully out of control. Yeah. 00:15:36 Speaker 4: Now, look I have a soft spot for Mary m Cosby too, and she is a minister. Yeah, so I am now in a place where I can have I mean, if you haven't seen it and you're listening, and she and Mary m Cosby, a woman tells another woman in an episode that she smells like hospital. 00:15:58 Speaker 3: So these are the things I love them for. It's incredible. It's incredible. 00:16:03 Speaker 4: See to me, Jen is the one trying so hard, like she thinks she knows the part of the housewife and she's trying to make catchphrases happen, and I find her very embarrassing. 00:16:11 Speaker 2: She is, and Lisa's just a horrifying thing to watch, the whole experience. 00:16:19 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't mean to mom Shane, but when she said last week, she's like, yeah, in my order of priorities work kids. Now, I just said I love works. So I actually can't talk. But I've just never seen someone have that man or woman priority ranking. 00:16:33 Speaker 2: Right over there tequila company nonetheless. Yeah, and then there's Meredith and her horrible son. 00:16:39 Speaker 4: Horrible son, thank you for saying that. Do you know how many people come on our podcast are like, we love Brooks. I'm like, he's off, what are you talking? I'm dead serious, Bridger people like him. I'm like, he's insufferable. Where is the foothold to liking that person? There's no entry point to He's just this awful. He reminds me of in the Comeback Lisa kudroz stepdaughter, like clearly mugging for the camera, like trying to get onto the show. Yes, it did make me laugh when Jen went to his fashion launch and she's like, I mean, he's only made one sweatsuit, like one track suit. I hope he makes another one. 00:17:17 Speaker 2: It looks like he just put some masking or duct tape along a regular I mean, of course I would love to own one of these tracks suits. 00:17:24 Speaker 4: See I would too. Item Yeah, that's what I should have gotten you today. I just didn't know. Okay, that's a missed opportunity. 00:17:34 Speaker 2: Well, actually, I mean this is a beautiful segue to a topic I want to talk to you about. You know, I did bring up early in the podcast that this episode has been We're here mid January, We're scheduled last March. It's been nearly a year on the making. The podcast is called I said no gifts, and yet today here comes Casey. 00:17:57 Speaker 4: Here I come. 00:17:58 Speaker 2: She's on the zoom. She has given me what appears to be a gift. It's in a bag. Here is yeap, Casey? Is this gift for me? 00:18:09 Speaker 3: It's for you? 00:18:11 Speaker 4: Now? 00:18:11 Speaker 3: This one is a real hit or miss. You know, they don't always hit. 00:18:16 Speaker 4: The reason I gave you this, if I could give one little bit of preamble, is that a person that we have in common gave it to me for Christmas. Oh, someone I believe to have a wild and wonderful sensibility, Laura Kindred. Oh. 00:18:30 Speaker 2: I love Laura Kindred. 00:18:31 Speaker 4: I mean we've been roommates and dear friends since college and well not roommates now, but we were. She actually took me to the hospital for my first dehydration episode, but she out of the career clear Crystal Blue, gifted me this for the holidays, and it couldn't be stranger. But I didn't know how much I needed it, And I hope you feel the same well. 00:18:49 Speaker 2: And for the listener, the listener's knowledge that one thing you should know about Laura Kindred is that her biggest celebrity crush is current day Anthony Hopkins. So she so a little so resistible. 00:19:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a woman who saw the Star Wars movies. I don't know if you've heard this part one and two the original in the theaters about forty seven times each in the theaters. And that does not include how many times she's seen them on her free time at all. 00:19:21 Speaker 2: She is forty. 00:19:23 Speaker 4: Some times she's just and that's probably linked to some amount of mental issues, but she will tell you. But she's a stunningly funny, weird person. 00:19:31 Speaker 2: Oh, I adore her. Well, let me dive into this bag. Here, it's a tissue. 00:19:40 Speaker 4: Paper wrapped it beautifully. 00:19:42 Speaker 2: Let's see here, just opening the present, and. 00:19:54 Speaker 3: It's an you've given for the fridge. 00:19:58 Speaker 2: A magnet of Tony Danza completely naked, a young Tony Danza looking stunning. Look is this really Tony Danza? 00:20:11 Speaker 4: It's a really Tony dance? 00:20:13 Speaker 2: When was this fully nude photo of Tony dancing taken? 00:20:16 Speaker 3: I wish I had more intel on it. I don't know, but. 00:20:20 Speaker 4: I just was made aware of this existence. You would think we would have heard of it. Of course. 00:20:25 Speaker 2: This is like, I mean, just straight up naked. You're seeing the entire Tony I mean from the knees up, but all of Tony, all of Tony. Yeah, he's absolutely and he's maybe in a boxing gym or something. Yeah, I'm trying to pick up the details here, but there's just for listeners. I mean, while you're listening to this, you can probably just type in Tony Danza naked and there appears to be a black and white nude. 00:20:55 Speaker 4: Now weird doesn't come up as quick as you would think. Yeah, it comes up on one site, but then every time I would click on others, it's like it's him clothed and I'm like, guys, no, that's not what I'm looking for here. 00:21:07 Speaker 2: He's scrubbed it from the internet. Obvious. 00:21:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, so wow? 00:21:12 Speaker 2: What So did you ask Laura how she came into this knowledge of Tony's nakedness? 00:21:19 Speaker 4: She got this? Okay, I'm looking. I'm only just looking online right now because I'm trying to find more providence on it. And it says someone is saying that they think in his early days he was possibly a porn star. 00:21:33 Speaker 2: Are more photos that can't be true. 00:21:37 Speaker 4: That's not right, and that actually was someone on a chatboard. 00:21:42 Speaker 3: But Laura got this at a gift shop. Gift shop and silver Like. 00:21:47 Speaker 2: My guess is, wasn't Tony dance like a dancer? 00:21:51 Speaker 4: Yes? 00:21:52 Speaker 2: I feel like dancers are very much just about being naked and being very free with their bodies, and young Tony dance. I probably had no idea that he would later become you know, the love interest of Angela Bowers and the housekeeper. 00:22:10 Speaker 4: For god, what was like al Helmand is the grandma's NAMEA. I was going to say the housekeeper to Mona. 00:22:22 Speaker 2: But yes, were you a Who's the Boss watcher? 00:22:25 Speaker 4: Yes? Were you? Oh? 00:22:27 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's just now clicking, uh for me. That Who's the Boss was really built for a closeted gay boy to watch you had. I mean, I think even in the intro you had like a shirtless Tony dance doing. You know, he's always being said, I wish they'd had this right then You've got Angela, this kind of powerful woman, her sassy mother walking around. I mean, it was everything I needed. 00:22:53 Speaker 4: I know, it was everything I needed too. I mean I totally agree, though. It's just there's something about it that just it was magical. I loved it. I loved it so much. I love him. 00:23:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he seems wonderful. Here is a great presence. What does he do now? 00:23:09 Speaker 3: You know that? 00:23:10 Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like he's around, right, I mean but active, Yeah, but he's around. I'm trying to get more info here, but it's really just appears almost out of nowhere that photo. 00:23:22 Speaker 2: The completely naked I wonder. 00:23:24 Speaker 3: Oh, I did just find his net worth? 00:23:27 Speaker 1: This? 00:23:28 Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, you're right. He's an actor, teacher, dancer, former boxer with a networth of forty million forty million, now seventy years old. 00:23:36 Speaker 2: I feel like forty million feels little for Tony Dancer. 00:23:40 Speaker 4: I didn't want to say, but it doesn't. 00:23:42 Speaker 2: Net worth things never make any sense. I feel like mine says I'm worth like five million dollars, which is just clearly not true. 00:23:49 Speaker 4: So I could see that you're very, very accomplished writer. 00:23:54 Speaker 2: I would love to be worth five million dollars. There's no way Tony Dancer. I would guess tony sixty to eighty million dollars. 00:24:02 Speaker 4: That's what I would think. But now another site just says forty one forty one. 00:24:06 Speaker 2: Oh, then where is this information being from? This makes no sense. 00:24:11 Speaker 5: I don't know. 00:24:14 Speaker 2: I wonder if they base it off of how many times somebody gets googled. That feels like maybe a way to do that. But then I guess it would probably be like Osama bin laden four hundred million dollar net worth. You know, it would just be that can't be. 00:24:28 Speaker 4: The right the metric measure. 00:24:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if Tony did Who's the Boss and then it was over early nineties and then probably tried to do some movies. 00:24:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't. 00:24:42 Speaker 2: Picture what a a old Tony Danza even looks like. I'm going to google it really. 00:24:47 Speaker 4: Quickly, I can. 00:24:48 Speaker 3: Does he still have the shag or no more shaggy haircut? 00:24:52 Speaker 4: He's sneezing on the eyes. I find he seems so man. Yeah, it's just a Netflix show. 00:24:59 Speaker 2: Oh he looks right, I mean, yeah, he looks like he's holding it together pretty well. He's not shaved. The hair may have been in something called Teach. Oh. It looks like he may have played a prisoner recently. 00:25:10 Speaker 4: And maybe that's why the haircut is a little closer to the right. 00:25:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like somebody who did time. Yeah, did you have any childhood crushes? It's Tony Danza childhood crush. 00:25:20 Speaker 4: He was a bit but my main unwavering to Chad Allan. 00:25:25 Speaker 2: Who Chad Alan? Who's that he is gay? 00:25:27 Speaker 4: He was on the show full No for God, I want to say full House, but our House well for Brimley. Oh see that. No, So Chad Allan was just truly and is I to this day would leave my life for him that he is a gay man, but I loved him so much, and I was a huge Leonardo DiCaprio, like very basic, just right, And I tried to get in touch with him when I was like thirteen, and I got pretty far. 00:25:56 Speaker 2: How did you try getting in touch with him? 00:25:58 Speaker 4: So I would do this thing when I was younger, which is so sad. Maybe I was fourteen where I would pretend to be a writer for the Washington Post and I had no problem lying. I was just like and I just looked up his agent and then I started calling his publicist's agent, his managers, and I was like, Hi, I'm trying to do a story just just totally you know, on Leonardo, and I came up with a weird kind of and what I thought was like a great angle, and they're like, he's off filming this, and I'm like, I mean someone called me back a couple of times like I had something going, and then I think finally they were just like. 00:26:27 Speaker 3: Who is this? Like what is this person? 00:26:31 Speaker 4: And then one time I saw him in New York City and in a car, back of a car, and I chased it and that's not great, but I. 00:26:37 Speaker 2: Love times are pretty close encounters. 00:26:40 Speaker 4: You know his if I may two doors down from me, I am the neighbor of Leonardo DiCaprio's father. What two doors down? 00:26:51 Speaker 2: What? 00:26:52 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:26:52 Speaker 2: What does his father do? What was was he in the business? 00:26:56 Speaker 4: I don't think so, I don't know, but I know him in the context of like any very nice neighborhood guy. What came over for Halloween? We did like a social distance Halloween neighbor things came by mister DiCaprio. He's married to a very nice woman. They're really nice. And I was like, if I knew that, I would have Leonardo Gaprio's again. 00:27:16 Speaker 3: Father not in my front yard. I mean my head would have exploded off its body. 00:27:22 Speaker 4: Truly. 00:27:23 Speaker 2: Does Leo ever visit? 00:27:25 Speaker 4: He must? I mean it's his dad, right, Although my husband was like, he's not coming over to this part of town, like they're going to him my cynical I think he could still visit his father. 00:27:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, where's Leo? Probably Malibu? 00:27:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Palisades somewhere like. 00:27:43 Speaker 2: Right, that makes sense, but make the trip over. It's right, a perfectly nice part of town. 00:27:51 Speaker 4: Yeah, come see us. 00:27:54 Speaker 2: Come for Halloween. 00:27:55 Speaker 4: Come please. 00:27:57 Speaker 2: Controversial opinion. I've never thought Leonardo DiCaprio was that good looking. 00:28:00 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:28:01 Speaker 2: It doesn't click for me. He looks like a big kitten to me. 00:28:05 Speaker 4: Really, what about Once upon a Time in Hollywood? Still didn't click? 00:28:09 Speaker 2: It's not working. 00:28:10 Speaker 3: What about Brad Pitt? 00:28:12 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:28:12 Speaker 4: Sure, okay, Okay, I was going to say, are you someone that's like I don't like the traditionally you know. 00:28:17 Speaker 2: I just feel like Leo has kind of a box head. 00:28:20 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I disagree, like, I don't know what to tell you. I can see your point of view a little bit with Housewives that's very more fluid for me in terms of like emotions, but not this one. You're gonna stand your Yeah, Okay. 00:28:36 Speaker 2: Does his father look like Leo? 00:28:39 Speaker 4: No, not that much. 00:28:42 Speaker 3: He couldn't be nicer. 00:28:43 Speaker 4: Interesting, Yeah, I have only nice things to say. 00:28:48 Speaker 2: How did this information come out that he was Leonardo's father? 00:28:52 Speaker 4: Well, okay, so there's another very famous person that lives on our street that I genuinely like, will not say and cannot say, and have been basically been told do not fay. And so that's a very strange little thing. So right when I moved in neighbors were like, can you believe that person lives over here? And then Leonardo DiCaprio's father lives over there, So it was made known to me. 00:29:15 Speaker 2: Right away that I live in the Hollywood sign greatness. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like the meat in that sandwich. 00:29:23 Speaker 2: That's wild. Oh I'm gonna I may have to ask you off podcasts who do much this famous person is. This is shocking. I hope it is Leonardo DiCaprio and he refuses to drive down the street to his father's house. 00:29:35 Speaker 4: I would I would find some way to signal that to your listeners that it was him. 00:29:39 Speaker 2: I wish blinking rapidly and waving her I. 00:29:43 Speaker 3: Would tell everyone it's the new year. 00:29:49 Speaker 2: Do you have New Year's resolutions? 00:29:53 Speaker 4: I mean no, I'm doing like a really probably pretty lame, like manifesting challenge with a yeah. 00:30:02 Speaker 2: I thought you were literally manifesting challenge into your life. 00:30:05 Speaker 4: And I've had that. 00:30:07 Speaker 3: I've already the universe has brought me that. 00:30:09 Speaker 4: But it's it's like a write you write every morning and do a little meditation, you. 00:30:14 Speaker 2: Know, to bring It's nice. 00:30:16 Speaker 4: It's nice. It's it feels like, at least for more than a week, I've done something toward what I want, right, what about you? 00:30:23 Speaker 2: I feel like I had something and I've now forgotten it. Like I mean, they were all things like hike more, things that are just literally if I if I hike once, I will have accomplished the goal. 00:30:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, or I think is on my list too, right, A lot of things. 00:30:42 Speaker 4: Don't you already? Isn't it always the last thing you want to set out and do. Some people love it. 00:30:46 Speaker 2: People I when I'm doing it, I love it. I'm just not someone who seeks it out. So I need another person in my life who will plan the entire thing. Essentially just pick me up from my home and take me to it, because otherwise it's not happening. And then it usually ends up in the Hollywood Hills, which are just a desert landscape. 00:31:05 Speaker 4: Does do Griffith Park? Yeah, sure, it's at least a little more like green. 00:31:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need some sort of green. Or if it's just like a dusty path, I don't know what we're doing me too. 00:31:16 Speaker 4: And then I'm like, oh, this is why I hate Los Angeles. And dogs are going to the bathroom everywhere, and it feels like just embodying Los Angeles. 00:31:24 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:31:25 Speaker 2: I mean I have been taking more walks recently, so I guess I could just count those. I could like reverse engineer a New Year's resolution and say that was it. 00:31:33 Speaker 4: So just to talk about walks for a second. To me, they fall in the same category as water, like where are you going? 00:31:41 Speaker 2: I'm going nowhere. 00:31:42 Speaker 3: I rather run for a half hour than just stroll. 00:31:45 Speaker 4: Do you run? No? 00:31:47 Speaker 2: But I'm for me is such a nauseating thing costable? 00:31:50 Speaker 4: But like, when you're on a walk, are you doing it for your own mental health or are you doing it to like. 00:31:55 Speaker 2: Cardio exclusively mental health? I mean it is, you know, really a low impact, low impact exercise. Any professional will tell you That's not what I'm doing before. It's just a nice mental I've started listening to more podcasts, like recently I listened to the did you listen to the Hollywood con Queen podcast? By chance? 00:32:16 Speaker 1: No? 00:32:17 Speaker 2: You have to? It's okay, I mean, it's just wild. But yeah, I'll put in a podcast, listen to it for a full thirty five minutes while walking, and then walk back the other direction listening to music that by the time I get back I'm at least not in a bad mood. I may not be in a good mood, but I'm neutral. 00:32:30 Speaker 4: See you do a full hour and do you ever get this hower? 00:32:33 Speaker 2: I don't get sore. 00:32:35 Speaker 4: But you're a very trim guy. So it's I'm a small making it working. 00:32:39 Speaker 2: Just a small little person that's kind of wandering around, probably making their neighbors wonder But it's nice to I just moved into a new neighborhood, so it's nice to see what's happening just by it all being closed down, and I think a walk if you can just get on the. 00:32:55 Speaker 3: Walky, you just have to get out there, get. 00:32:58 Speaker 2: On the walk, and then you're, you know, some nice area. Are you familiar with the Los Felas stairs. Yes, it's like a hidden staircase. Yes, that's where I used to take all my walks. It was wonderful. It made me feel good. I haven't quite found that in my new neighborhood. 00:33:12 Speaker 4: But okay, you're not in Low Feels anymore. 00:33:13 Speaker 2: I'm in Highland Park. 00:33:15 Speaker 4: Oh well, it's really nice there. 00:33:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, see it's very nice. But it's an odd area to have. I mean, it's odd to move into a new neighborhood during a pandemic, right, you don't really know what you're what you got right, I could have just moved into a ghost town and it would have been the same experience. 00:33:28 Speaker 4: So it's wait, I have a question for you if I may. Oh, of course, no questions allowed. Okay, very quickly. So did you wrote on thirty Rock? Am I wrong? 00:33:37 Speaker 2: I wrote on Unbreakable Commischmidt? 00:33:40 Speaker 4: Okay, well, the same question applies. So both of those shows I have, instead of like a podcast, been listening to in my ear and falling asleep to and then they play all night. Oh and Kimmy, I've done it so many times I actually can't listen anymore, only because I really know like all the words. Right now, I'm on thirty Rock, but then I probably will go back to Kimmy. I love it so much. 00:34:02 Speaker 2: I adore both of those shows. And I feel so lucky to have worked on Kimmy because was it fun. Oh it was such a It was so fun. I mean, I my dream job was thirty Rock, but I didn't get my first writing job until thirty Rock was over. Yeah, I mean I didn't get into actually writing as a professional. So Kimmy was like, oh I get to I get to do it. In a different version essentially, and I also felt like I related a little bit more to Kimmy, just with various topics, and so it was very fun. I mean it was not an easy job by any means, but I mean, Robert Carlock and Tina Fey are just incredible, and it felt like I had gone to the Olympics. It was like I was competing in the Olympics every day and it was like. 00:34:42 Speaker 4: That bar must be just so it's so high. 00:34:44 Speaker 2: Oh, everyone, every other writer there I had heard of prior to working on the job, so it was people I had admired from Afar and it was extremely intimidating. But they're also very sweet, so it's great. And the show, I mean, it was like, how often do you get to write on a show? It just gets to be funny. 00:35:01 Speaker 3: That's what I need. I needed the most in the pandemic. 00:35:04 Speaker 4: It's like, just give me jokes, please, right, my jokes. I don't need to feel for people. I don't need to care about them as people. 00:35:13 Speaker 2: I don't want to need a big story. I just want joke. Joke joke joke made me last. I mean, that's how Happy Endings was. That's largely how Black Monday is. It's a very silly show, very silly. Yeah, but yeah, Kimmy was a very fun experience. 00:35:29 Speaker 4: And you know, I feel Jane Krakowski, she's like, truly my favorite actress. 00:35:34 Speaker 3: I feel she's somewhat underrated. 00:35:36 Speaker 4: Am I wrong? 00:35:37 Speaker 2: So underrated? 00:35:38 Speaker 4: You she could say so. 00:35:40 Speaker 3: Good people are like, oh yeah and Jane, oh. 00:35:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, She'll be there and she'll do a perfect joke. 00:35:45 Speaker 4: By that, I've never heard a bad word about her. You couldn't possibly, But I just think she's so incredible. 00:35:51 Speaker 2: Yes, and she's uh working with her like on set, she's still she could be phoning it in at this point, but she's still to give the absolute best performance you can at all times. She can tell the first to you about like is this am I doing this joke? Right? She's so good, just the best. 00:36:08 Speaker 4: I love her and I told her as much in a bathroom stall once, but she was very warm and received it. But I love her obviously, Titus, but I love her. 00:36:17 Speaker 2: So much, right, I mean, what a fun, fun show, so fun. Hopefully we can have some more fun shows and get away from I feel like a lot of comedy has become people's art projects or something Yes, I don't really need, but that's fine. 00:36:34 Speaker 4: Or not even comedies. I'm like, is this right? 00:36:37 Speaker 2: Half an hour? 00:36:38 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:36:39 Speaker 2: Half an hour long? Yeah? Well I feel like you know I've I now have this magnet of naked Tony Dancer to put on my fridge. 00:36:48 Speaker 4: Something you needed. Obviously an important is. 00:36:50 Speaker 2: When you said I needed it, you were not lying. 00:36:53 Speaker 4: It's okay, I'm glad it hit because you just don't know how someone respond to imagine love naked Tony Danza and his uncut peenis. 00:37:02 Speaker 2: This is where you find out that Tony Danz is my uncle and I've just had this shocking revelation. No, I'm ready for a game, Casey, I want to play a game. I have two options for you. You don't need to know what they're about until you pick. One's called Gift Master. One is called Gift or a Curse. Oh okay, I'll do Gift or a Curse. Okay. I need a number between one and ten. 00:37:24 Speaker 4: Eight. 00:37:24 Speaker 2: Okay. I have to do some calculating for the next few seconds. It could even be twenty minutes. Who knows how long it's going to take me. You can promote something, you can recommend something, Okay, you can do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:37:37 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I think what I would recommend most people have seen. But I got very involved in all of the Nexium world. The Vow Seduction was another thing about that cult, Lanti. I'm so deeply involved in it, and I love that. So I wish I could promote something I'm in. I mean, oh gosh, that show. What else? I'm just reading new David Sedaris book, which I didn't know is merely a compilation of all his best work. Oh god, I don't even know anymore. What am I doing? Bridger, I don't know. If your audience is going to like all of this. 00:38:15 Speaker 2: That's fine, this is it you did. I would say you got like a B minus use of that time. Not bad. Other people have really dropped the ball. Other people really come in with too much promotion. 00:38:26 Speaker 3: To promoted other people's works. 00:38:29 Speaker 4: So I think that's a B plus in terms of humility. 00:38:35 Speaker 2: That's true. 00:38:35 Speaker 4: But Krakowski I did not try to make that perfect, which is why I'm not doing Koski. You will never be, You'll never be, No one can be. 00:38:46 Speaker 2: No. I actually I think we should just take a minute and say, Casey Wilson is one of the funniest people working on television, and look up all of Casey's work. Any sentence she says on television is funny. 00:38:57 Speaker 4: So thank you. 00:38:58 Speaker 2: I'm happy to just promote case You will. 00:39:00 Speaker 3: See that was my goal to get you. 00:39:03 Speaker 4: To promote me. 00:39:04 Speaker 2: My back was against the walls. 00:39:06 Speaker 3: You had to you genuinely did, Casey. 00:39:09 Speaker 2: The way this game works is I name three things, and you tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why. Okay, and there are absolutely correct answers, so you can definitely fail and then you walk away in shame. Okay, we'll win nothing either way, but okay, it's nice to come out on top. 00:39:25 Speaker 4: It almost feels like for a show that says, don't bring a gift, you would then give a gift to you guy. Absolutely, okay, Okay. 00:39:32 Speaker 2: Great, okay, first up, gift or a curse snitches as in people who snitch. 00:39:42 Speaker 4: I mean I would say a curse in that the word snitching. If you had said whistleblowers, I would say a gift. But the way you put it, it's like you're just ratting people out. You're a little tattletail. So I'll say. 00:39:56 Speaker 2: Curse, Casey, you're out of the gate. You've fallen on your face. Snitches are absolutely a gift. I love a snitch. I love the word snitch. 00:40:08 Speaker 3: It works as just you arbitrarily made you. 00:40:12 Speaker 2: These are just subjective truths that the world knows that a snitch is a gift. I mean, the idea snitching is very funny. 00:40:22 Speaker 3: It is funny. Well, I didn't know comedy was that well. 00:40:25 Speaker 2: I mean, once again, these are things you just should have known coming in. I mean, this is a failure on your part. But we love snitches, and I would say tattle tales are a different category. Snitching is very much in the criminal world, okay, And I feel like when you're a snitch, you're really a dishonest criminal of the worst sort. 00:40:51 Speaker 4: And it's it's a gift, got it? 00:40:57 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I see that. I mean, if you have any other defense of that, I'm happy to hear it. 00:41:03 Speaker 4: But I'm so easily sway. And this is how I am with the Housewives. I'm like, I hate that person, and then someone else is like I think they're okay, and I'm like, they're a gift to us. 00:41:10 Speaker 5: All. 00:41:12 Speaker 4: Oh, I agree with you. One hundred percent. 00:41:14 Speaker 2: And I feel like a housewives are a category of people that could easily fall into snitching. 00:41:20 Speaker 4: That's all they do. So I guess you're right. If I thought of it from that through that lens, it's amazing. 00:41:27 Speaker 2: I assume you don't want to be snitched on, no. 00:41:29 Speaker 4: But I want to watch people snitch on each other on the Housewives. 00:41:32 Speaker 2: You're right, yes, okay, zero so far. But here's another. This is from a listener named Adam, and Adam wants to know gift or a curse zoom backgrounds. Now we're talking about we're in this new realm of technology and the world is horrible, so we're always always always on zoom. So some people are putting in a fake background on their zooms. What's your take there, gift or a curse? 00:41:55 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like you're going to say it's a gift, it's so fun, but I think it's just annoying and tedious. Then I'm all set, Well. 00:42:07 Speaker 2: The true answer is curse. I agree with the good look. I don't need a technology stepping in to make the and I don't. I also don't want to think about another thing to have to do on this. I just want to show up. I don't need to put a fish tank behind me or whatever we're doing jungle scene. It's just like, that's just the I don't even. 00:42:30 Speaker 3: Want to be on the zoom, right, I don't want to be here to begin with. 00:42:33 Speaker 2: Yes, right, so I'm not going to try to make it fun. 00:42:36 Speaker 4: It's like some things, yeah, don't need to be fun. Not everything needs to be fun. 00:42:40 Speaker 2: Right. You don't wear a costume to the doctor's office. It's uh not absolutely not for ye. I mean if somebody wants to do it, sure, but I just think it's a curse that it's that I even have to consider. 00:42:52 Speaker 4: It, right, right, you're right. 00:42:54 Speaker 2: And I also I want to know what's going on in other people's houses. I don't care if it does good gift. 00:43:00 Speaker 4: It's my office. I want to point out that everything's all a kimbo. 00:43:03 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think your office looks very pleasant, thank you. And it seems like you've got some nice natural lighting. 00:43:08 Speaker 4: It is, it's really nice. I just moved into it today. That's why I'm sitting on the floor. 00:43:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, let's just if we're all going to be trapped at home, let's show each other what's happening in various spaces. 00:43:21 Speaker 4: Why yeah, and like, what kind of gross vibe you're living in? Right? 00:43:26 Speaker 2: If it's a mount of trash, I want to see it. It will explain things about your personality. 00:43:30 Speaker 4: Where are you right now? 00:43:32 Speaker 2: I'm in my back office okay, oh, back office in front, back office. 00:43:37 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:43:38 Speaker 2: It's a little like I think they when we bought the house, they pitched it as like an apartment or whatever. It's like, I'm not, no, it's not going to be an apartment. It's just like a little room that is now where I record the podcast. 00:43:51 Speaker 4: That's nice because it's outside. It's it's so nice to have space outside of the house. 00:43:54 Speaker 2: I find during this absolutely, especially when you're recording exactly. I mean, my boyfriend could be making all the noise he makes inside the house him. But yeah, yeah, But okay, so you've gotten one out of two, which is, you know, either good nor bad? Pretty good, really good, excellent, excellent. The final one here and now. This is also from a listener named Claire. Claire has written in she wants to know gift her a curse Things covered in powdered sugar. 00:44:29 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, Claire, that's a hard one. 00:44:32 Speaker 2: That could be a donut, that could be a French toast. I assume a Bennet is. 00:44:39 Speaker 4: God, you know, it's so good, But then I end up having to do a lot of tapping and you know, getting it, and I don't love that. I'm gonna say a curse. I find it annoying again, Like there's a simpler way. I am a fan of, like an old fashioned donut, just the like there's literally nothing added to it. 00:44:59 Speaker 2: It's just like a sweet essentially sweet, right yeah. 00:45:02 Speaker 4: Or I love the chocolate covered, but the powdered It's like, now I've got to do another thing and I'm already at rock bottom eating a donut. So it's like I already am fucking lying down, you know, in my own filth. I don't now need to go get a napkin. I'm like clean up. 00:45:16 Speaker 2: So I say, curse, Claire, you have landed the plane. I think things covered in powdered sugar are absolutely a curse. I don't think that the mess is worth the sweetness. Yes, I mean you're getting it on your You're constantly worried. Is this all over my lips? Is it's now on my fingers? It's dropping on my shirt. And for what for like a kind of matted texture with sweetness? What are we doing? 00:45:43 Speaker 4: You're right? 00:45:43 Speaker 5: For what? 00:45:44 Speaker 4: And for what? 00:45:45 Speaker 2: For what? 00:45:46 Speaker 4: I mean? 00:45:46 Speaker 2: And what are the we've got the donut begnet. I don't even know other things that are covered in powdered sugar. I feel like there's like a is there a sandwich we cover as the crocman sere covered in powdered sugar? Don't think that would be disgusting? 00:46:01 Speaker 4: No French toast, okay, because at least it's like you got the surface, yes, and there's a surface on which it's on. It's not teetering. It's the things that's teetering on. I really don't appreciate. 00:46:13 Speaker 2: But we just have better things to put on a donut. 00:46:16 Speaker 3: Right, and better things to do with our time. 00:46:19 Speaker 2: The better thing is, certainly, I'm a busy man. I've got more to do than wash my hands. 00:46:25 Speaker 4: Right, Well, I hope you do. 00:46:28 Speaker 2: Now I need to wash a virus off my hands. I shouldn't be worrying, exactly. 00:46:32 Speaker 3: I don't need one more thing. 00:46:34 Speaker 2: Yes, So Claire, there's your answer. Curse Casey has gotten two out of three. She did a decent job with the game, and that's fine, Okay, Okay, Well, if you're going to make that face, I did. 00:46:46 Speaker 4: A pretty good, pretty good. I'm an actor. I'm surprised you haven't run into this with actors needing validation and needing more. 00:46:54 Speaker 2: I brought you on this podcast to bring you down a level and just. 00:46:58 Speaker 4: Well, now I guess I'm at rock bottom because I told you that I was one level up. 00:47:04 Speaker 2: The goal of this podcast is for the guest and all listeners to be at rock bottom at the end of the podcast kind of depleted, right, just kind of tired and feeling bad, and you're reason bars anxious. Yeah, hopefully they started at the very beginning of the day and then the day is just ranked. Okay. Final segment of the podcast is called I said no questions. People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. These people kind of are at rock bottom. They need answers. Okay, so let's try to answer some questions. And they've come to the right place clearly, right. This first person has written Bridger an esteemed funny guest, So thank you, really buttering you up. My sister Megan's birthday will have passed by the time. You've read this in October, so I need your help with the belated thirtieth birthday gift. We don't live in the same state. Therefore, I am able to blame you USPS for the gift not being there on time. But let's be honest, Zach. But October this is airing January. The USPS is not delivering things five months late, so you're out of luck there. 00:48:07 Speaker 4: But I have something when you're ready. Yeah. 00:48:09 Speaker 2: She loves cooking, working out, and listening to podcasts, including this podcast. Is this email to your show and reading it on air enough of a thirtieth birthday gift? Help from Zach? Okay, just let's lay it all out, Zach, this is not enough of a gift for the thirtieth birthday for the Zach sister who's in another state. Don't try to get out of spending money on this poor sister. Yeah, Casey sounds like she already has something in mind. 00:48:33 Speaker 4: Well I did before I heard her interest. 00:48:37 Speaker 2: You were going to recommend an ATV. 00:48:40 Speaker 4: I was going to give what I give people on big birthdays like thirty forty? Really right? Which is an astrology reading from my astrologer Heidi Rose Robbins. 00:48:48 Speaker 3: Oh, who I think is incredible. 00:48:51 Speaker 4: And I do think at milestone birthdays you want to take stock a sex right and it can be done. You just literally email her and Venmo and the next thing you know, your sister has a beautiful golden certificate in her inbox. 00:49:02 Speaker 2: Oh and then is it like like an hour long reading? Is that the sort of thing that happened. 00:49:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so beautiful. She's heart centered, so she's not like you're going to die tomorrow like you told me in the beginning of this podcast. And it's so inspiring what she'll tell you about yourself, and it's truly hopeful and inspiring. 00:49:21 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds lovely. I think that's a great milestone gift. Somebody gave me a reading, a birth chart reading, just because she loved My friend Sarah gave for no reason. She just loves astrology. I went to a man named Angel. Angel did a full hour reading. You know, I don't really believe in any of this, but I was wonderful. Yeah, it's, you know, like an hour of thinking about who you are exactly. 00:49:44 Speaker 3: And that's what I think. 00:49:45 Speaker 4: If it sparks some intuition or something in you, I totally get that people are like astrology, but I actually think more people are into it. I'm only into it via Heidi, this particular person, because I think she's so incredible. 00:49:57 Speaker 3: But yeah, you get something out of it. 00:49:59 Speaker 2: Right, I think that, Yeah, you get to just generally, uh, it's kind of meditative, absolutely a nice thing. I mean, you know, you say that. She doesn't say you're going to die tomorrow or whatever. That's the That's the sort of person I want to go to. I want to go to a scary fortune teller. Where do I find this person? 00:50:17 Speaker 4: Okay, you find him in LA I'll tell you. I mean, you'll actually, like Heidi will say some things. She told one friend, you are headed into a two year descent. 00:50:27 Speaker 2: Oh I guess that. 00:50:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was bad, but my friend already knew that, Like she was already starting in it, you know, Okay, she I mean she didn't love hearing two years. 00:50:38 Speaker 2: That feels like you're just like lighting the fuse of a selfielfilling prophecy because then you the pon. 00:50:43 Speaker 4: She was deep in it. It was like a grief thing, and she knew and she said it actually felt more helpful for someone to just like validate like, yes, you are in this it will end in morph and change, although I wouldn't have felt much hope. 00:50:55 Speaker 2: No, two years give me a break? Yeah, maybe ten minute descent. 00:50:59 Speaker 4: I can't tell the two year, but I promise that is the only negative thing I've ever heard her say. And at the same time, that's her work. She has to say what she sees, right right, Maybe I see something safe. 00:51:11 Speaker 2: For her shot yes, exactly, and tell me her name again. 00:51:17 Speaker 4: Heidi Rose Robbins. Also just follow her on Instagram. She gives something every day she writes out like a little kind of read for the day based on where the stars are, and they're so beautiful. 00:51:27 Speaker 3: She's such a beautiful writer. 00:51:28 Speaker 4: And last thing I'll say about her, Unlike a lot of healers, she's normal. 00:51:34 Speaker 2: She's you love a normal healer. 00:51:36 Speaker 4: It's hard to find, let me tell you. In this strip Mall of Broken Dreams, Los Angeles. 00:51:44 Speaker 2: Let's answer one more question. Okay, I feel like that. That was a nice, tidy answer, and I like to end things with it just a mess, just where someone feels not helped. So let's try Hibridge your end. Guest. My grandmother turns ninety this year, and I want to make sure I make a big deal out of it. I hope I can throw her a party by August. But who knows, you know, pandemic blah blah blah blah. I send her some crossword puzzles and her favorite eucalyptus candle this year. She also loves murder, mysteries, anything to keep her warm, even though she lives in Florida. She knits and sews, can't cook or bake, and let's see, I usually wind up making her something that she'll embarrassingly display in the house like fine, Like it's fine art that's from Amy. So we're just looking for a ninety year old. 00:52:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, I don't know that we'd want to send her to Heidi. 00:52:38 Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. I mean, if you're ninety and you haven't had the experience of astrology, might be a time to start. But this person feels like they've lived a full life. They've probably had a reading at some point. 00:52:51 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 00:52:52 Speaker 2: So she can't cook or bake, but she does knit and sew. But you know, like with that knitting and sewing, we're just sending her yarn. 00:53:00 Speaker 4: I don't right, right, right? I mean, it seems she should nit her own blanket, a blanket, but that's more for the grandma. That's work for the grandma to do, so I think, yeah, I mean, do we are people giving brand names out at this time? Like yeah, sure, okay, I will say my friend turned me onto this. It's not that they don't look amazing, but I will say I find the ug makes it an amazing warm blanket that I do. 00:53:22 Speaker 2: Send people in there, they're the blanket. 00:53:24 Speaker 4: They're in the blankets now if they're sick, or if they just like my friends who are pregnant, you know, just someone like who needs a little extra, which I always do. Just a nice, thick, very warm blanket. That's just one thought off the top. 00:53:37 Speaker 2: That's so not a bad idea. Or like, why not get her an extremely cool hoodie? You know, a ninety year old grandma is probably not getting fashionable. 00:53:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is. 00:53:49 Speaker 2: Right. Get her like a high price hoodie and she can be wandering around the old folks home or wherever she is and looking. 00:53:58 Speaker 3: Very cares that idea, I think that's very good. 00:54:02 Speaker 2: It seems like this person just needs to be kept warm while she's knitting and sewing. And I imagine at nineties She's got all of the tools she needs as far as that goes. She can't cook her bake. Maybe it's send her. 00:54:15 Speaker 4: He like a very beautiful tea set. I don't know, we didn't know that, but I'm just thinking of her other interests, seems. 00:54:21 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, crossword puzzles. I mean, what are we doing sending a giant book of crossword puzzles. Maybe there's a new type of game that you could get her along those lines. I feel like there's some new what's the New York Times doing now? These spelling bee games that are kind of like a crossword puzzle? We have something like that? 00:54:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 00:54:44 Speaker 3: Do you do crosswords? 00:54:45 Speaker 2: I was doing them for like the first half of the pandemic. I mean, let's pray it was the first half, yeah, and then stopped for whatever reason. 00:54:55 Speaker 4: To you do them? I sometimes? Yeah, I have like the New York Times little pack that I have, right, so I'll do it. 00:55:00 Speaker 2: I enjoyed doing it. 00:55:02 Speaker 4: I really like the minis, to be quite honest. 00:55:04 Speaker 2: The minis always make you feel smart. Yeah, you feel great. You can complete them every time? Yep, there's maybe one that takes you four seconds to think of the answer. 00:55:14 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 00:55:15 Speaker 3: It makes me feel something and like I did something right. 00:55:18 Speaker 2: And then it has very satisfying little sound at the end. If you did the electronic versions plays like a little light jazz and you know you're ready to start the day. 00:55:26 Speaker 4: And I love to race my husband at it. 00:55:29 Speaker 2: Oh, just make a little more Which one of you is better at it? 00:55:33 Speaker 4: David? Oh? 00:55:34 Speaker 2: Interesting, Well, you've got to sharpen your skills. 00:55:36 Speaker 4: I know, I do. I do. 00:55:40 Speaker 2: Let's see here, so Amy, I think that we've given you everything you need for this, You've gotten till August. So you take this rich amount of information we've provided. 00:55:50 Speaker 3: Okay, Can I throw one more idea quickly? 00:55:52 Speaker 2: Casey has another idea. 00:55:53 Speaker 4: And this is another friend who provides a service that has been business is booming. My friend Deanna Chang has a business. Yes, Diana has also been an actress on Black Monday, a business called the Montage Queen. 00:56:05 Speaker 2: Hear me Montage Queen, Montage Queen. 00:56:07 Speaker 4: What she does is she has all different family members for an event, such as a ninetieth birthday. She asked them questions, everybody films themselves, then sends her photos. She makes a very beautiful montage of everyone with music. She can, you can edit it with her, so from everyone in the family gets to participate, I think, and I've seen one of them. They are stunning when they make. 00:56:31 Speaker 2: A quaint that just seems like I mean, whether it's for a ninety year old Gandma or someone else out there, listener, get somebody a montage. 00:56:38 Speaker 4: Get someone a montage. Montage, queen. 00:56:41 Speaker 2: I'm going to look that up. Maybe I'll just make a montage of photos of myself for myself. 00:56:46 Speaker 4: And tell yourself all the things you like about yourself. 00:56:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we answered those questions pretty well. 00:56:53 Speaker 4: You were. 00:56:53 Speaker 2: I mean, you're a fount of information. As far as do you like giving gifts? 00:56:57 Speaker 4: I do. My love languages gifts. 00:56:59 Speaker 2: Oh, giving, okay. 00:57:02 Speaker 5: My husband said it's a gross quality. I don't think that's a gross quality. My I wish I wish that was my love language because it's it allows everyone in your life to get I mean, I can't receive or give gifts. 00:57:16 Speaker 2: I have such a hard time with it. And it's such a concrete, easy thing to locate with a person and then you know they're going to appreciate it. 00:57:22 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I like it, but you know. 00:57:26 Speaker 2: David says no. He says, no, Casey, thank you so much for being here. They had a wonderful time. I can't wait to hang this magnet on my fridge. 00:57:37 Speaker 4: I can't And I'm sure your boyfriend will love it. You know, it's really for and I also wanted to recommend that for the ninety year old grandmother as well. 00:57:45 Speaker 2: Oh, she would love that. 00:57:46 Speaker 4: She'll love it. 00:57:47 Speaker 2: She would love a naked tone. I mean, anyone, no matter your age, no matter your gender, your sexuality. 00:57:55 Speaker 3: You can appreciate it truly for everyone. 00:57:57 Speaker 2: Naked Tony Danza, Yes, that's a gift he has given to the world. 00:58:02 Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely everybody. 00:58:04 Speaker 2: That's the end of the podcast. Eventually you're going to have to turn this off, hopefully make yeah, listen to something else and go enjoy yourself in the world. I love you, goodbye, I said. No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midroll dot com slash ads. 00:58:52 Speaker 1: He line man, did you hear Funa man? Myself perfectly clear? 00:59:01 Speaker 4: But you're I guess to my home. 00:59:05 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no guests, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff. 00:59:19 Speaker 4: So how did you dare to surbey me?