WEBVTT - Intent w/ Tenea Intriago

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies.

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<v Speaker 3>These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 1>These are our stories done done. Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to That's Messed Up n SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Kara Clank and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Liza Traeger, and every week we talk about an episode

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<v Speaker 2>of SVU, the true crime it's based on, and we

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<v Speaker 2>interview an incredible guest from the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Your hellos hellos are very Broadway. Oh I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing RuPaul. Oh Hello, Hello, Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're right. Oh God, I'm a fraud. I'm a fraud. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>we have huge news for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the greatest things that's ever happened in my

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<v Speaker 2>life happened at your back.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, your daughter's birthday party. Okay, what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>The bounce house deflated with children inside, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>screaming like it was the Titanic. It was fully their

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<v Speaker 2>titan But we're laughing because it's we know they're safe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the funniest thing I've ever seen. But I looked

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<v Speaker 2>in the screams on their face.

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<v Speaker 1>They were terrified, and it's literally just like the hose

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<v Speaker 1>came apart from you know, the air and the cat

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<v Speaker 1>just the air supply came apart from the actual bounce house.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst thing that happens is that a bounce house

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<v Speaker 1>gently folds down on you. But these children were like

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<v Speaker 1>in a burning building in their minds. They were like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I got a bounce house for this party

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<v Speaker 1>that had five children on it, because we're still sort

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<v Speaker 1>of we're still in a pandemic. So this was like

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<v Speaker 1>all vaccinated and then just a few kids and there

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<v Speaker 1>were a couple of kids in the bounce house at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and it was it was really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband, have you ever seen the movie Force Majeure, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>They just it's a it's a famous movie, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they recently remade it with Julie Alois Dreyvis and Will Ferrell.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically like at the beginning of the movie, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an avalanche and the guy and Will Ferrell's character just

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<v Speaker 1>saves himself. He doesn't even look at what his kids

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<v Speaker 1>and wife are doing. And then the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie is like her dealing with the fact that her

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<v Speaker 1>husband just didn't I had that moment with my husband

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<v Speaker 1>because he just watched the Bounce House to flat.

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<v Speaker 3>And I go do something, like, go help do something.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like eight months pregnant. I'm not going to fucking

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<v Speaker 1>save the Bounce House. And I was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe you didn't do anything. He's like, they're fine. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, they are. It's not the same as an all.

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<v Speaker 2>But their screaming faces will always hopefully be emblazed to

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<v Speaker 2>my memory because and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then of course we hooked it back up and they

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<v Speaker 1>were back in it in two seconds, bouncing around.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>And then obviously you know, I came home the same

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<v Speaker 2>day Stabler came home. Yeah, so we couldn't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We've gotten all your messages.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you may have seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Our live We have a live up from what we

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<v Speaker 1>thought we would go live a bunch of times during commercials,

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<v Speaker 1>but then we just got really wrapped up in the

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<v Speaker 1>episode and it was like, I think it was also

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<v Speaker 1>too much.

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<v Speaker 2>But then also I had not drank or smoked weed

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<v Speaker 2>in four or five months, and so I had two

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<v Speaker 2>manhattans and a joint, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, yeah, a lot of a lot of you

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<v Speaker 1>noticed a lot of you wrote in and were like,

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<v Speaker 1>how high is Lisa right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I was, yeah, I had a great night,

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<v Speaker 2>and honestly, instead of making me want to drink and

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<v Speaker 2>smoke more and made me be like I should take

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<v Speaker 2>more breaks because then.

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<v Speaker 1>You just get lit.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really fun. But I've been getting high every

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<v Speaker 2>day since i've been back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? I liked the episode. I liked the SVU

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<v Speaker 1>episode Organized Crime. I'm gonna give it a shot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's a very different animal because it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of like a multi episode arc kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Dylan McDermott is a crime boss.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't buy it. I just the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 2>so silly to me. I don't of course I will watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>But with the SVU, like I think we all I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you guys can correct me if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you will. I think we all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thought he was like coming back to SVU and

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<v Speaker 1>like he's not. You guys like he just came back

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<v Speaker 1>for that episode. I bet he'll dip in. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people were like, oh, he's coming

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<v Speaker 1>back to SVU. They're gonna get together and all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, I don't know if that's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was a promotional tool. Yeah, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>This wasn't some creative thing or a gift to us.

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<v Speaker 2>They just needed people to watch organized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they'll probably be like at least like everuple a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of episodes where the Mafia and.

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<v Speaker 3>Like or whatever, the mob organized crime unit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same way as they they crisscross with vice,

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<v Speaker 1>they crisscross with like aland security. I mean, how many

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<v Speaker 1>times does Chicago and New York have to coordinate an

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<v Speaker 1>investigation together? I ask you, But I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>I would really love.

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<v Speaker 3>To know what was in that letter.

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<v Speaker 2>I get speech, so I would like to say I

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<v Speaker 2>like that Benson got to stand up for herself and

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<v Speaker 2>be like you fucked up, dude. You I saw you

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<v Speaker 2>every single day for a decade and you just leave

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<v Speaker 2>with nothing. Like I didn't realize how much that would

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<v Speaker 2>suck her up because that episode where she cries, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, relax, and now I'm like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is traumatizing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like this person that you consider your best friend

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<v Speaker 2>you would trust your life with them, just stops talking.

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<v Speaker 1>To you because you've had friends leave jobs before that

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<v Speaker 1>you were on with them and you still talk, you

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<v Speaker 1>still get together and get a drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, or at least on the internet. Yeah, do

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<v Speaker 2>you think they're Facebook friends? But so I like that

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<v Speaker 2>she was able to call him out and stand up

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<v Speaker 2>for herself and like that was good. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>like disappointed that Stabler has learned nothing, not one bit

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<v Speaker 2>of therapy, not one moment of not wanting to violently.

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<v Speaker 3>And instead of learning to go in to therapy, he

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<v Speaker 3>was learning Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he speaks Italian, but he does not speak mental

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<v Speaker 1>health or and Hannah did research and there is Italian liaisons.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Hannah, but I just think it's like nuts

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<v Speaker 1>that they would just take a guy who doesn't speak

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<v Speaker 1>Italian and has no knowledge of Italy and just be

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<v Speaker 1>like you're our guy in Rome now, Like it just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, but I'll let it slide. Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>liked seeing the kids. I wish Kathy wasn't dead. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to say. I was, yeah, come

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I was like I was into their acting,

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<v Speaker 2>like Obviously I loved seeing them together, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>just disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>At his growth when they first had them like meet

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<v Speaker 1>up with each other and they you're just like, go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead hug, Like are you gonna hug each other?

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<v Speaker 3>And they just like didn't. That was tense. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>I like that the kids were happy to see her too.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody wrote into our Instagram and goes, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>they used all the same kids. I'm like, they did

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<v Speaker 1>not use all the same kids. They've completely been recast.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of the actors are back. Dickie and Kathleen are

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<v Speaker 1>the same actors, but Maureen's been recast. Elizabeth, who was

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<v Speaker 1>unseen as a child, has fully been recast, and same

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<v Speaker 1>with Eli, because Eli was Elliott.

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<v Speaker 3>Junior was just like a baby. I think when he

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<v Speaker 3>was on that sh I also think.

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<v Speaker 2>These fans are sickos when they're like, great, Kathy's dead,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, fuck, They're just like thrilled this woman died

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<v Speaker 2>so they can get their job. I was sad Kathy died.

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<v Speaker 2>I was really sad Kathy died. Yeah, she didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>get to like, you know, I don't. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>her to retire with it have a good life at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, like relax.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, at least she got to spend

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<v Speaker 1>her last year's living in Rome. I mean she probably

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<v Speaker 1>had it. She was living in Queen's before that. No

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<v Speaker 1>offense to Queen's, but Queen's to Rome, that's an upgrade.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I cannot believe you're glassing over Dicky's beard. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>you so traumatized by that? Yeah, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dicky's beard is a fuck you to Stabler

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<v Speaker 1>Like they've always had, you know, tension, the two of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's just like, look at me now, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a man.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm looking too far into it. Do you have

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<v Speaker 3>any thoughts on the beard?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I honestly, I wish I cared. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I love a beard that thick.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed unkempt. Yeah, unkempt is a great word. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have much other news except I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>have started a whole new life in a different state.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I have been sadly rewatching girls next door.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm in the middle of season four about the

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<v Speaker 2>Playboy mansion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's weird. I have told you that I already.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it as it was on. I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen every episode. It's a very weird part of mine

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<v Speaker 1>because that doesn't seem like kind of show I would watch.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've seen all of our friends have watched it too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think at the time it was just like that

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<v Speaker 1>was an intriguing show. Anyway, this is all to say,

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<v Speaker 1>please join us for our podcast about the Girls next Door.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a spin off. We're going to be reviewing every

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<v Speaker 3>episode of NU. We're just joking.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked at me with such disappointment that I brought

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<v Speaker 2>that up. But I and then I have nothing else

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<v Speaker 2>to add. I don't even have a fun story with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, I watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where my disappointment came. Yeah, it's like, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know how to finish a deal. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's jump into our episode because we have a really

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<v Speaker 1>good one today, and it's a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>long one, but it's a good ee So stay tuned,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's dive in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is season nineteen, a more recent baby episode eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and the episode is called Intent. I'm just gonna be upfront,

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<v Speaker 1>up top. I am not a big fan of a

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<v Speaker 1>post toddler Noah. Okay, Noah as a baby is adorable

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<v Speaker 1>and I love I wanted him to just stay that

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<v Speaker 1>age forever. When they time jump to Noah being a

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<v Speaker 1>curly haired, little mouth talkbacker, I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if I'm obsessed with Noah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely do not hate him on the level of hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a strong Hate is a strong word. I would

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<v Speaker 1>never say you hate children. I hate children. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like I just don't. He doesn't do anything for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I roll my eyes at all his parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. And I think, also, it's like too much.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much angst for Olivia in there. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>she gets enough of it at work. Can't hurt, Like

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<v Speaker 1>a life with her son just be a little bit easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's annoying for me anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Well for me, it's the opposite. I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>such a well behaved little kid, Like, no kid is

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<v Speaker 3>this behavior? Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this episode later he is such a little punk.

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<v Speaker 1>He talks back to her, he tries to run across

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<v Speaker 1>the street. She grabs his arm. She ends up getting

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking child services like investigation because she bruised his

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<v Speaker 1>arm trying to save him from getting hit by a

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<v Speaker 1>cab and he's like, whatever, Mom, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Likes he's like a punk at age seven already,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't like it. All right, all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he needs Olivia to show him somewhre disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>But we need to do a disclaimer that you love

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<v Speaker 3>the actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, the little boy is so cute. He's like

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<v Speaker 1>a cut little hip hop Dan, sir, nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>the actor. I'm talking about Noah anyway. And also I

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<v Speaker 1>understand he's been through some hard times. The first year

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<v Speaker 1>of his life wasn't great. But I think Olivia's drying

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. I think I'm looking at it from Olivia's

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<v Speaker 1>point of view. She's trying really hard to give him

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<v Speaker 1>a great life, and he's being a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a of a bee. Okay, So we open on Noah

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<v Speaker 1>walking to school with his grandmother. She aka teen icon

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<v Speaker 1>turned full grown actress and star Brookshields.

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<v Speaker 3>Who and our first female eyebrow icon that we discussed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes from the female side of the eyebrow School of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Brookshields, and I believe that Brookshields and Marishka

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<v Speaker 1>are good friends in real life, and that she was

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<v Speaker 1>like begging her to do this part and was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to play a grandma and she was like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think if we all watch the Paley Center special,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw that little tidbit, so she we see kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the dynamic forming of how they're sort of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like not co parent, but like form sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a family structure together. Olivia walks up to Shila

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<v Speaker 1>and Noah. She's like inviting Sheila to dinner. She can't

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<v Speaker 1>make it, but like they're they're they're becoming this cute

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<v Speaker 1>little family, and then Noah drops the bomb as they

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<v Speaker 1>walk away and goes, I wish I got to meet Ellie.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you can remember if you're or maybe you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't watch the show, that's fine. Ellie is

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<v Speaker 1>Noah's by iological mom, who was a had drug problems

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<v Speaker 1>and was a sex worker and ended up being killed

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<v Speaker 1>by Noah's biological father in a very gruesome in a

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<v Speaker 1>very gruesome episode which we will we will probably cover

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<v Speaker 1>another time.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like season long drama because she got murdered

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<v Speaker 2>one episode and then we don't meet the.

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<v Speaker 3>Boss of the gang for seasons, I feel, right, we think.

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<v Speaker 1>That we kind of think the father's out of the picture,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's back. It's very traumatic for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia's roller coaster of trying to become a mother. So

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia when he mentions Ellie, Olivia gets that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like punched in the gut look where her mouth is

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<v Speaker 1>like slightly agape and she's got her eyes are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of darting, so we get that signature Benson gut punch look.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we cut to two teen girls in a

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<v Speaker 1>pharmacy and they're just like looking for a shampoo called

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<v Speaker 1>pink Ice. But then it turns out there looking for

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<v Speaker 1>blue Glacier, which to me sounds like an axe body

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<v Speaker 1>spray sent But go off, girls, you get what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>They are devoteys of a social media influencer named Katie Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>who has a website called Katie's Clatch that we can

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<v Speaker 1>see on the phone. It has two hundred and thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand followers, not bad, lots of pics of her looking, sexy,

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<v Speaker 1>bikini shots, et cetera. Now we're sort of cutting back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth with two scenes. The next scene is Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>the actual influencer, in a faux for a jacket, like

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<v Speaker 1>giggling at her phone up books this sort of jacked

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<v Speaker 1>dude with like a big neck tattoo. There's cheesy pop

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<v Speaker 1>music playing, so we're getting the vibe that this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a cute little date that they're meeting up and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, how is Argentina? And she's like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you mean Pensacola, which at the time I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of moron confuses Argentina with Pensacola. But as

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps going, you kind of realize why that mistake happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would like to mention that this guy is

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<v Speaker 2>played by Steve Howie, who I watched a lot of Shameless,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is I think one of the top honks

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<v Speaker 2>in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up because I

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<v Speaker 3>forgot to look up who he was, So he's from Shame.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm obsessed with him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's his main role because I've seen him in other stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like that's his main big thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he plays like a lovable idiot, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>a bar He owns the Bar. I loved Shameless, but

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<v Speaker 2>then I always hate when things become basically they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>let Lip go to college and they kicked him out,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, if you're not letting Lip go to college,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done with the show, Like can you just give

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<v Speaker 2>him a fucking break?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry if this sounds insane to people that don't watch it,

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<v Speaker 3>but Steve Howie was also they just got divorced, but

0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.680
<v Speaker 3>he was married to Sarah Shahi, who was a very

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<v Speaker 3>sexy character in The l Word, and her and Kate

0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Mennig my one of my top celebrity crushes. They had

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<v Speaker 3>like the most insane sex scenes ever, so and they

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<v Speaker 3>had a cute kids. So I've been I've been obsessed

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<v Speaker 3>with Steve Howie for a very long time. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I let you do the descripting because I would not

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<v Speaker 1>have known anything about Steve Cowie.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the lead in Riba also, I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>missing he got a start as one of the leads.

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<v Speaker 3>And hey, any friend of Riba as a friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's where he met Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah was doing a guest star on that show and

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<v Speaker 2>they met on the set of fucking Reba.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and I love Riba because she likes corn dogs

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<v Speaker 3>and I that I love.

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<v Speaker 1>We could do a separate podcast just talking about why

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen all the photos of Riba with corn dogs?

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<v Speaker 2>Riba is on private jets after her show's eating corn

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<v Speaker 2>dogs all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>We will post some of these on our Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you worry?

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<v Speaker 3>We will get these. We will get these to the world. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically now I want to call him Steve Howie,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't know the guy's name yet, the jacked guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He is like, how about we just go straight to

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<v Speaker 1>my house and get to know each other, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>straight home on a first date, you should buy me

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<v Speaker 1>a meal first, which I kind of like agree with,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she's like, jkjk, let's just go back to

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<v Speaker 1>your place. So she's fully fine with that idea. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're back to the Blue Glacier teens. They get an

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<v Speaker 1>alert on their phone, which is Katie posting to her

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<v Speaker 1>blae being like first date hunk with a range Rover

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<v Speaker 1>a big red one, wish me luck. Okay, so the

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<v Speaker 1>girls are like gagged that Katie has such a cool day,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like he has a range drover.

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<v Speaker 3>Stevie has a bicycle, and then her friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes, broom him. What the fuck is broom him? I

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<v Speaker 1>think I meant to look this up on Urban Dictionary.

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<v Speaker 3>That is SVU.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like some fifty five year old SVU writer

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<v Speaker 1>being like, I think my daughter says broom him.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's try that, Like you know, it's like it did

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<v Speaker 3>not make it at e. So my ideas are like

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<v Speaker 3>sweep someone off the feet.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also like the other thing I'm thinking is

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<v Speaker 2>probably not it Urban dictionary is saying to broom is

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of something.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it exists umber urban Dictionary. Maybe I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five year old writer who doesn't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>uh what the vernacular is.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anybody write that on And why would

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<v Speaker 1>you sweep them away?

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't you want to bring him closer? No, she's saying

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<v Speaker 3>broom her boyfriend that has the bicycle.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, get rid of this guy with the bicycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're like the old yeah no, no, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So then now we're at this guy's place. The ceilings

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<v Speaker 1>are I'm not even shooting you fifty feet tall, like

0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.639
<v Speaker 1>the apartment of six City views some huge, large empty vases.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's supposed to go in there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>having a champagne toast. She snaps the picture of just

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<v Speaker 1>their hands holding the glasses and is like, fans love

0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:25.040
<v Speaker 1>this cryptic stuff. Hashtag who is the hand? So not

0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the best hashtag I've ever heard, but okay. We find

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<v Speaker 1>out he's some kind of wrestler or mma fighter. He

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<v Speaker 1>has all these championship belts. He goes in for a kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>She so she wants to take it slow.

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<v Speaker 1>He immediately like viciously attacks her, Like this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>like a pretty I remember watching this when this episode

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<v Speaker 1>came on and being like, holy shit, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of screaming and like very it's very it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a traumatic scene. His name we find out is

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<v Speaker 1>Andy because she's like Andy, no stop. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>is going just attacking her, jumping on her, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we cut to her walking the streets barefoot, looking completely traumatized.

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<v Speaker 3>A guy with a dog asked if she's okay, and

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<v Speaker 3>she says she's been raped.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Rollin's and Finn are at the hospital trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get her statement, and when they go to approach her.

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<v Speaker 3>She's just like, I wasn't raped.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about, Like, get this

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<v Speaker 1>through your skulls, like I wasn't raped. Gotta go by,

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<v Speaker 1>And then we're into the credits. So now we're at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of act one. We've got the full like

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<v Speaker 1>briefing where the show kind of like, lets you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the lay of the land. Katie Miller is a

0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.560
<v Speaker 1>social media celeb Instagram, YouTube, Snap and then somebody goes,

0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.240
<v Speaker 1>thank you Kim Kardashian. She has two hundred and thirteen

0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.679
<v Speaker 1>thousand followers. As a girl, she's hardly a Kim Kardashian,

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<v Speaker 1>but I get that they want to try to seem

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<v Speaker 1>like they know what's up. And then I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>Kreesy goes, sure, make mock influencers are the voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Of gen Z make mock.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm such a whatever. I know there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Korezi lovers out there. He's just funny to me. So

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<v Speaker 1>now we're back on Blue Glacier shampoo. This is like

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<v Speaker 1>a shampoo that Katie. I think you missed something that

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously very important to me. Finn admits that he

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<v Speaker 1>loves porn, kind of oh, I don't, Finn. Finn is, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I sure did. It's my number one note no, but

0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.639
<v Speaker 3>Finn is like, why would you go on social media?

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Porn is free? And then oh, yeah, yeah, that's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then we're talking about the blue Glacier shampoo,

0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.239
<v Speaker 1>like Cariesie's sister uses it, so obviously we can. We're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of getting the idea that, like, Katie makes money

0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:31.080
<v Speaker 1>off of doing sponsorships and being a big celeb online.

0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:35.200
<v Speaker 1>They've come across the champagne picture. Immediately Rollins goes looks

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<v Speaker 1>like Tribeca. I'm like, from the background of the picture,

0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.879
<v Speaker 1>you can pinpoint that that's like a three hundred and

0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.080
<v Speaker 1>sixty degree view of the city. You could see any

0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Okay, she knows it's Tribeca. That's also

0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.040
<v Speaker 1>where the UNI picked her up, so that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like, what time happened between the time she

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<v Speaker 1>disclosed and when Finn and Rollins showed up. So they're

0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.880
<v Speaker 1>on their way to go to Katie's apartment and question

0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.359
<v Speaker 1>her kind of try to follow up with her. Essentially,

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.439
<v Speaker 1>Rollins in live have a quick chat about her family troubles,

0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>with Sheila and Olivia's kind of it's like one of

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<v Speaker 1>these rare, like sort of vulnerable moments with Olivia where

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.200
<v Speaker 1>she's like, doesn't She's like, I don't have a regular

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<v Speaker 1>family life, and it just would be nice to feel

0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.080
<v Speaker 1>like someone has my back. And Rollins is like the squad,

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.240
<v Speaker 1>does you know? But I think Olivia is like, yeah,

0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, I just need a little bit more than

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<v Speaker 1>that in my real life.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're unstable. Rollin's cough cough, Yeah, you've got my back.

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<v Speaker 3>When there's not a big wrestling match, you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>bet on going on.

0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 1>So Katie comes to the door in a Beanie calls

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Benson a big gun, like immediately recognizes her rank, which

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I never would like they're like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Lieu tenant Benson. I'd be like, okay, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't think I would know the ranks.

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<v Speaker 1>But she like immediate is like, Okay, you're the big guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it. She lives in this nice place and

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<v Speaker 1>by herself because she posts about the realtor online and

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<v Speaker 1>she talks about how she's working her way through school.

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<v Speaker 1>She sends money to her family, pays her own way,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're kind of getting the idea like that you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to like this person because she's even the she's posting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, which, I don't have a problem with anybody

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<v Speaker 1>posting sexy picks, but I think the show sometimes will

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<v Speaker 1>be like they slept shame a tiny bit, I think

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<v Speaker 1>without knowing it, so they're they're like, oh, she does

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<v Speaker 1>post all these racy sexy picks, but it's to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for her family and her way through school, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually okay. Benson finds a picture of Katie and Andy

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<v Speaker 1>together and is like, who's the guy with the tattoos?

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<v Speaker 1>This all happens really quickly. Benson does a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>real quick investigating here and is like, who's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>with the tattoos?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Just an MMA fighter. Rollins is like, not just an

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<v Speaker 1>m fighter, that's the monster. That's the guy's nickname or

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<v Speaker 1>as a MMA fighter. Benson puts it all together as like,

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<v Speaker 1>you posted a picture of a guy with tattoos. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy has tattoos, so did the monster rape you? And

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<v Speaker 1>Katie's like, my lawyer says, I don't have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and he's gonna help me protect my career,

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<v Speaker 1>and she does not want to move forward with.

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<v Speaker 2>This well, and then Benson and Rollins are so taken aback,

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<v Speaker 2>like you already have a lawyer, like what do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the kind of quickly. Yeah, that moved really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>So now Finn and Korea are in the office of

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<v Speaker 1>this lawyer. His name is alt Schuler, and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>he's a you could tell he's.

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<v Speaker 3>A deadbeat lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>His blinds are all fucked up, like the blinds behind

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<v Speaker 1>him are completely askew. Nobody in a nice law firm

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<v Speaker 1>has bad blinds. I'm just saying he's no Gloria Allread.

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<v Speaker 1>He denies even knowing who Katie is, which we can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell if he's just being sketchy or he doesn't know her.

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<v Speaker 1>But they figure that Katie was just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>in the er waiting to be examined or and just

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<v Speaker 1>started googling lawyers, and they think that they think Google

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<v Speaker 1>works alphabetically or something, and then that's why she ended

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<v Speaker 1>up with Alt Schuler.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the Yellow Pages, but careesy a little shady goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt she's majoring in brain surgery.

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<v Speaker 3>That's shocking. Okay, I'll use Sonny lovers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of rude, just saying, don't assume good just

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<v Speaker 1>because a girl is paying her way through school with

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<v Speaker 1>social media, that she's a dumb dumb liv gets a

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<v Speaker 1>call that Andy aka the Monster, wants to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the cops right away, so she redirects Finn and Careesi

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<v Speaker 1>to the gym where they show up and Andy's just

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<v Speaker 1>like pummeling some guy, and we meet Sean Tompkins, Andy's

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer slash manager, and he's like, my guy's got twenty

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>million dollar fight on the line, and this wackadoodle chicks

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<v Speaker 1>got him spun. So we're already not thinking that Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Tompkins is a very sympathetic man. And Andy's explaining the

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<v Speaker 1>date and saying that and Sean calls her an internet whore,

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<v Speaker 1>which is he's not a good guy. So he shows

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<v Speaker 1>the text he got from Katie, this recent text he

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<v Speaker 1>got that says pay me ten thousand dollars or I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell the cops you rate me. So he's saying we

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<v Speaker 1>met at a fight a few months ago. She commented

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<v Speaker 1>on my fan page.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked what I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent her my private number. We started texting. We

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<v Speaker 1>both like Waylon Jennings and Johnny Cash. That's a red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't seem like the kind of music that Katie

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<v Speaker 1>listens to. I'm judging a book by its covered completely

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But I know Johnny Cash. I don't even

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I had to google Whalen Jennings. I mean, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>old Americana music. Like, I don't think it's the kind

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>of thing Katie's blaring while she's taking bikini shots for

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<v Speaker 1>her Instagram. But I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>People contain multitudes.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently over while they were texting, they really connected.

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<v Speaker 1>They talked about being shy and getting picked on, and

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>she says in these text messages that she gets turned

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<v Speaker 1>on watching him fight, sends racy selfies to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>says that she has a rape fantasy, basically that she

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<v Speaker 1>wants him to rape her. So Rollins knows a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about the monster. She obviously dabbles in mma.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she's a guy's gal. She's a guy's gal.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows that he has twenty eight first round knockouts,

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<v Speaker 1>so she knows all this stuff. And she also comes

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<v Speaker 1>up with a great point, which it kind of bumped

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<v Speaker 1>me too, like it's weird that she would only ask

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<v Speaker 1>for ten k from a guy who's worth millions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like you'd ask for six figures.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, once you saw that penhouse. That penhouse is

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty million dollar apartment, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like ten k is Like I'm sure that he spends

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<v Speaker 1>ten k on a weekend, you know, just like going out,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not right.

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<v Speaker 2>I also needed to add that the makeup department did

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing job on Steve's wrestling ears, because that's not

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<v Speaker 2>what his ears look like in his hot and while

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 2>oh they give him like.

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<v Speaker 3>Those messed up ears.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave him fake fucking ears. Oh snap good. Yeah, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really don't. I just the whole wrestling ear thing.

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I wrestling ears that grosses me out. It's honestly really

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<v Speaker 3>hard to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's and so that's why how I knew

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 2>it was fake, because Steve's Steve's never disgusted me before,

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Benson Uh suggests that the Monster texts back Katie and

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<v Speaker 1>say come get the money, and that if she comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the get the money, she's a felon and if

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't, we'll get we'll get Monster with rape one

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<v Speaker 1>and then Rollins walks.

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<v Speaker 3>Away and goes, it's the monster.

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<v Speaker 1>Just FYI, like, and Olivia if you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back and watch the episode, because Olivia's face that they

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>leave her on is like, who the fuck cares?

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Rolins like, no one cares that it's the monster. Just

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 3>go get me my conviction.

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>So monster is h In the next scene, sitting at

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<v Speaker 1>a park with the money, like just with a huge

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<v Speaker 1>water cash and an envelope.

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<v Speaker 3>Cops her on a looseboy hat and at least favorite

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of hat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, newsboy hat, and the cops are like everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>on the lookout, they spot Katie. She sees Andy and

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>start immediately looks terrified and starts to run, so they

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>grab her and she's like, what's going on. In interrogation,

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>she explains that this is a real laugh for me,

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 1>that she had an interview for a modeling gig and

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that a rep for Chanelle asks to meet her there

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>at Rollins goes at Stuyvesant Park at one pm on

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a Sunday, and it's like, great point, Rollins, great fucking point.

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Chanelle is not doing business in parks. I have to

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>tell you, like, I'm not I'm not so fashioned. Savvy,

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that Chanelle or Gucci's going to

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<v Speaker 1>hit you up and be like meet me at a

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 1>hotdog vendor on Broadway at thirty fourth, Like it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Not going to happen.

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 1>So she shows the detectives her phone. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>text from somebody saying that there are this Chanelle rep

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. There's also messages from the monster that say,

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>what the hell happened? If you tell anyone, I'll tell

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone what a slut you are and no one will

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>believe you. So Katie now finally admits that Andy did

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>rape her, Like she's now finally, like, you know, telling

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the cops basically what we've known is true the whole time.

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 1>At the precinct, we obviously find out that I think

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Carreese called Chanel and they've never heard of Katie. And

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I just love the idea. Hey, Chanelle, it's me Dominic

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>CARESI people call me Sonny, just wondering did you guys

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>make a plan to meet a girl named Katie in

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the park at some.

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<v Speaker 3>Point on Sunday?

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I just can't. I love imagining how that call

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>went down. And so obviously we find out that's fake

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and the text with the lawyer are fake too, so

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the lawyer didn't actually know Katie at all. They were

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>like Katie was texting with like a fake person. So

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>they basically figure out the crux of the entire episode

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>is that there's a third party involved, not only a catfish,

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>but a double catfish. Someone is posing as the Monster

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>to Katie and as Katie to the Monster.

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they point out that, like the text on

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Katie's phone make her seem like a beautiful angel in

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>him like a perverted creep. Yeah, on his phone, she's

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 2>like a dirt, prety slat and he's like this nice guy.

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Something's wild, right, So it's just they can tell something's

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>up here. They get the computer crimes guys to check

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the IP address. We get a classic walk and talk

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>with Coffee with Barba and Benson, and he explains to

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Live that if they want to go after a third

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>party for accomplice to rape, that means Monster has to

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 1>be convicted of rape. Like, you can't convict somebody of

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>being an accomplice to a crime that doesn't exist, which

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>is kind of crazy, but that's true.

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 3>I get why that's true. So they offer Monster a deal.

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>They offer him rape three, which is a non violent

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>e felony, no jail time, one year probation. They explain

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the whole situation to him and his manager. The manager's like,

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>why would he do this? You guys are never going

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to be able to get him on rape like, and

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>they basically explain the catfisher and they say, if you

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>don't cop to this, it's like Katie's rape never happened.

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 3>And then they do something, Liza, I'm dying for your

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 3>opinion on this.

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>They do something to up the stakes because Andy seems

0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>very apologetic, but he doesn't seem like he's going to

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>take the deal. And then Katie reveals she was a

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>virgin when he attacked her. And I don't know why

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>that makes a difference.

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think rape is rape, no matter if you're

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>a virgin or not a virgin. But I think to

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>a man like the monster, that matters.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a normal person who doesn't understand that

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the concept of virginity is not real and it's created

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>by men to put worth on a pussy and like

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>that's all your worth or whatever, like it's not a

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>real thing. But most people think of virginity as a

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>very coveted thing. So I think that's gonna play his

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>heartstrings a little bit. And it mistakes in the show.

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's people that are watching that are like.

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, that's even worse.

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 2>But also I thought you were going to ask my

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>opinion where about how they would bring her in to

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>manipulate him in a way like they would never have

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>them meet.

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 3>I think in real life that's true too.

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>That's true too, like having them meet and be like,

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>are you going to take this deal and prove that

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a rape happened? Look in her eyes, look in her eyes?

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Are you going to say no to this deal? Like

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't But he is a.

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Good guy and he's not a rapist, and that's the thing, Like, right,

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 2>he would not have raped And I think he does

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 2>feel terrible.

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 3>I think he feels terrible. Sure, I'm sure he feels terrible.

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I think in real life, nobody's gonna give up their

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>multimillion dollar MMA career for this And he'd probably just

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.239
<v Speaker 1>like offer to give her some kind of money if

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>this was real, real world.

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 3>But we can move on. He agrees to take the deal.

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Steve how he's a great guy.

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh and uh.

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Lisa knew that from the beginning, and now they can

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 3>go after the cat fisher.

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>So at the top of act two, they track the

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>catfisher to West Virginia, And wouldn't you know that is

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>where my husband is from. So of course I googled

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Magsville to see if it's real or not. It's like

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a tiny, tiny town in West Virginia. It's about two

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>hours from where my husband grew up. He grew up

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>in Morgantown, which is actually a city it has to

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>call a big university, and it's like it's near Pittsburgh.

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>It's really not what you kind of think of when

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you think of West Virginia. And West Virginia is a beautiful,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>beautiful state that is just filled with a lot of

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>silly people.

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I also loved when Benson's like, all right, book first

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 2>class tickets.

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Garsy goes, oh really, and then she goes, no, fuck,

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 3>I did write LOL about that one.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like Finn, you're writing Shotgun and he's like,

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>oh no, no, I'm allergic to West Virginia, which I get.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 3>And then so now Rollins has to go. So now

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 3>this is like for all the release.

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>He fans out there, all the people that ship this

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>relationship between Rollins and Creesy. We're getting them on a

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>road trip to West Virginia together. The sexual moment you've

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>all been waiting for now we get. We go back

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to like Olivia. We're at Olivia's apartment having like a

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>tense moment with Sheila and Olivia. I don't really want

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to dwell on this because I just don't. It's not

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>really that big of a deal. Like she's like, I'm

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>mad at you for say, bringing up Ellie and she's like,

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. I spoke without thinking I'm really sorry.

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>So they work it out kind of immediately and it's

0:31:58.720 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>a quick moment.

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 3>The one thing I do love.

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is this is the one

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>she's cutting green apples. Yeah, And I don't know if

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>it's ASMR or what. Like I could watch Brookshields chopp

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>an Apple for hours, Like I was very obsessed with

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 2>what was happening.

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>And they end that moment kind of being like, is

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it okay if I buy Noah a coat? And then

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that's like we think that she's going to buy Noah

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>a coat. I don't know why no it doesn't have

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a fucking cod He lives in New York City. But okay,

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>so now we're in West Virginia and the cops are

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>getting the arriving to the house with the with a

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>local officer. There's an old lady on oxygen watching TV like,

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can only imagine what kind of fever

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:39.719
<v Speaker 1>dream she thought she was going through when two new

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>NYPD officers walked into her house, Like, I mean, like,

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>that's got to just feel like you're absolutely hallucinating.

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 3>She calls to Heather and she's like Heather, and Heather's.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you're the police, and they're like, you know why

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>we're here, and she's like yeah, because I'm stupid. She

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>like wants to have a hand. She's like introducing herself

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to the cops, trying to shake hands with them. You're

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>just kind of getting the idea that she's a little

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>bit of like a simple woman, Like she's just kind

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, the cops are here, what's hi.

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm Heather. Like it's just weird.

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't seem scared. She's just kind of not getting reality.

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>They want her computer and then they're taking her away

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and the grandma's kind of like, who's going to change

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>my bag?

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 3>And I think we all know what goes into the

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 3>old bag.

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Now we get to this kind of weird scene because

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>we don't really see stuff like this, where Coreese and

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Rollins and this local cop named Chuck are having a

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>little fun at a local dive bar.

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, they're just letting loose, heaving beers, and so it

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 3>to me.

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a six hour drive from New York to Morgantown,

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>where my husband's from. So it's an eight hour drive

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>from Maysville. So I guess they probably had to stay overnight.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess that was probably like it was too much

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>to go there and back in a day. So they're

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>chilling at this bar. CARESI at one point asked Siri

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>to set a reminder. I was like, is this a

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Apple tie in?

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Did you guys do a trade out?

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>It was like a confusing sponsored moment in the show,

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>especially because like they have to say face space. They

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>can't even say Facebook, so I don't understand now they're

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about Siri.

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it was intentional. But Rollins goes in

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>questions this hot bartender about going to school with Heather.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like, she's a sad sack, had a bad dad, had.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 3>To care for the mom.

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't really have any information, and then Rollins starts

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>telling Careesy about her old dive bar that she used

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to go to back home and her fling with Roy Junior,

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and then she just throws right out to cares Yeah,

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and then I took him out back and banged his

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:30.879
<v Speaker 1>brains out, and you're like, WHOA, Okay. I mean nothing

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>wrong with having a little fun, but it just seems

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>like it seemed like a weird jump in there. Normally

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 1>like more professional relationship, and I was like, not since

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>season one when Jeffries talks about hooking up with a

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>former suspect and we heard a detective being so graphic

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>about their sex life. You never hear Olivia being like,

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I love being on top, like you know,

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, there's like an awkward moment, but then they

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>laugh about it, and then Rollins is like, and then

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy died of melanoma. I do not know what's

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>going on with this conversation. It gets so weird. And

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>then Careese has to go check on Chuck, the local cop,

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>because he's gotten two wasted buck. The hot bartender sends

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a round of shots over because he's clearly trying to

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>flirt with Rollins. Careese's carrying Chuck back to the table.

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Chuck bumps into a guy. A full bar brawl erupts.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 3>It's just like wild.

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel like almost I'm watching Chicago Fire. I don't

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>know if that makes any sense. This just seems like

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>something that would happen in another Dick Wolf show and

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>not this one. I don't even want I've never even

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 1>seen one episode of Chicago Fire show.

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where that came from.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>But I do want to give a shout out if

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 2>we're going to bring up Chicago Fire. Our friends Mike Joyce,

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 2>he used to run an open mic in Chicago at

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 2>a bar called Lotties, and they would film Chicago Fire there.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 2>So sometimes we'd go do the open mic and the

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 2>signage would be different and like they would remodel.

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 3>The inside and we'd be like someone was here today.

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I took a lot of implements shots in that basement

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and had a lot of fun, and I ate a

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of Tater tots.

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 3>So shout out to Lotties.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Cariese and Rowins are going back to their hotel, and

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>she's like, that's the most fun I've had since Christmas

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>of O five.

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I really want to know what happened.

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Then Cariese's kind of like leaning in.

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 3>He's sort of going for it a man.

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're missing a lot of details, and I think

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>it's because you don't want to have sex with Careesy,

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to take over for a second. They're

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, they're at a motel and he's walking

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Rollin's to her room and he's leaning. I mean, I

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I like got giddy, like I had to turn this

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>off and walk away and go back in. I was

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 2>just getting like hot, Like I just like couldn't watch this.

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 2>It was so awkward but romantic. But it's truly like

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>they were about to kiss. I feel like there was

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 2>a lot of.

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Leaning and he's like, you know, like you know, I

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 3>really like you as a partner and she's like uh

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 3>huh and he's like no, like it's deeper than that,

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and she's like ah, and then he gets rejected and

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 3>it's just like so hard.

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's kind of why I like don't understand

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the releasi, like shipping because it's like

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>she's just had so many opportunities and just keeps rejecting him.

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So then in the morning, Careese's on the phone with

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Olivia being like, we don't need to extra date Heather.

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 3>She wants to come to New York.

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 1>This girl, we can clearly tell, is like a little

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>bit fame hungry, wants anything exciting to happen in her life,

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think getting escorted by the cops to New

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>York counts as a fun night a day for her

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and Coreese spots Buck the hot bartender leaving Rollins' motel rooms.

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 3>So that is like a second layer of rejection because

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 3>she was horny.

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>She just wasn't horny for him. And guess what, Rollins,

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I don't see it, but I know

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other people do. Please don't come for me.

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 3>You like see his heartbreak? Yeah, there's a lot of

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 3>but we'll see more happens at that.

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So now Heather's telling Rollins about how her and

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>her friends always dreamed of going to New York, like

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Mary Tyler Moore. We cut back to live in Sheila.

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.959
<v Speaker 1>This is the apple cutting scene. This is where apples Okay,

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>she explains how her sister died. She wants to buy

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Noah a jacket, blah blah blah. Caresy and Rollins are

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>driving Heather back to New York City and Chrisy's being

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of passive aggressive to Ralins, and Heather is asking

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>if she's going to be able to meet the monster.

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>So she really has like no idea what's happening. How

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>much trouble she's in right now? We cut to negotiating

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>with Barbara and they're offering Heather and her lawyer rape too,

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 1>which is seven years in prison, and she's like, well

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>less if I behave good. And then suddenly the gross

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 1>lawyer from the beginning who was getting catfished, he comes

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 1>in being like, Heather's my client because he's heard about

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Heather on the news and now he wants a piece

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of this action. He's going to do it pro bono

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>because he just wants like the money, which I don't

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>know where the money.

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Would be coming from. I guess from the fame.

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, and maybe they'll do a civil suit or something.

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>And fame is more important. I mean, the bling empire

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 2>or their billionaire is not enough for them. They had

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 2>to do a reality show. People want to be famous.

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 3>That's true.

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So he apparently was on a list of best

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>lawyers in New York City. I'm like, I doubt it,

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>but okay, he says. His client rejects the plea deal

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>at the precinct got more tension between Curries and Rollins,

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>but she's also weirdly flirting with him, Like I don't

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 1>really know why everyone she is fucking with him so bad.

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm a person.

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes I fuck strangers and sometimes I fuck

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.800
<v Speaker 1>people I know, and sometimes I fuck people.

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I work with, or does something like that.

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.360
<v Speaker 1>She basically says to him, You've got a shot, Like

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:19.919
<v Speaker 1>that's what she basically says to him, Like I didn't

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:21.439
<v Speaker 1>give you a shot last night, but you've got a shot.

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 3>So maybe that's why everyone keeps holding a candle for no.

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 3>She's playing, she's toying with him. She's toying. Yeah, Sunny

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 3>deserves better than that, right.

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>So now we're in court and Katie's text testifying about

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>her text with the monsters, how the date went went,

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and then how she describes the attack monsters on the stand,

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he explains the rape fantasy they're basically painting the picture

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>of the entire catfishing thing for the jury. Heather has

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>confessed to doing this, she just never thought it would

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>actually happen. She got the idea, She says, she got

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the idea for the rape fantasy from one of her

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.959
<v Speaker 1>mom's soaps, and so she basically describes her life taking

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.399
<v Speaker 1>care of her mom, cooking, feeding her, changing her poop bag,

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.799
<v Speaker 1>giving her spongeback, and then sometimes holding the bucket when

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>she pukes. So it's like she has a not a

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:05.919
<v Speaker 1>great life, you know. She lives in like a small

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 1>town and is like beholden to her dying mother. She

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>basically has created this whole life on the computer. She

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 1>never intended for the rape to happen or for the

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Monster to go to jail. So now Live and Barbara

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>are at the bar and he's basically explaining to Olivia.

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like, she's not malicious, Like there's not a lot

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 1>of intent here to quote the episode title, like she

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>has no motive, and he thinks the jury is going

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to quit just out of pity. Then Coreesy shows up

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>with kind of a smoking gun, saying that both Katie

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and Monster have texts on their phone with a picture

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:35.959
<v Speaker 1>of Heather.

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 3>It's like, mind, if my.

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Friend tags along, which what is her plan? If they

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>both said yes, she shows up and is like, I'm

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>friends with both of you, Like I don't understand, like

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>what she thought was going to happen there Also, I

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>have to also, for a second stop and just say

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that this entire episode is predicated on the idea that

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>there are no verified accounts, because Heather would have to

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>set up accounts that had massive followers, counts that mimicked

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the exact people but were not verified, and convinced both

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 1>of these famous people to start trusting a non verified account.

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying it can't.

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Happen, but it'd be more difficult than the show makes

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it seem. So anyway, Barbara establishes that it's a possible

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>revenge motive that they rejected her coming along on the date,

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's not mensraya, And if we all remember from

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Legally Blonde, mens reya is the intention or knowledge of wrongdoing. Okay,

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>So then Careesy shows them the something and goes toss

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 1>these in the pot as well, and shows them some

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>other pictures, and Barbara goes, the human body has a

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of bones.

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 3>We never really get to what that is.

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>We don't know what the pictures are of. I guess

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Heather's sending nudes. It's confusing. Back in court, Barbara is

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>cross examining Heather talking about how she uses Blue Glacier shampoo.

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>He basically exposes that she has red another user name

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>on Reddit that's Blimpy eighty nine, and they show posts

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>where she's shitting on Katie and shitting on Blue Glacier shampoo,

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Like why would anybody want to buy a shampoo from

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>this slug?

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 3>So they're getting.

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>They're creating the narrative and supporting the narrative that Heather's

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>not just this dumb dumb she is a malicious, jealous

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>person who is mad that she has a bad life

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and that these people have good lives. And so she's

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>basically saying that she never meant to hurt Andy. And

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>then it's like, well what about Katie, And she's like, well,

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>she's from Pensacola. That's not that much bigger than my town.

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>She gets supposed naked photos of herself for money, and

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I have to rub my mom's feet. She's like, it's

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>not fair. She gets paid to take a shower and

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I have to change Mama's poop bag.

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:30.879
<v Speaker 3>She deserves what she got.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>So Heather kind of has a breakdown on the stand,

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>which we know in real life never happens, but on

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the show is Our Bread and Butter. Heather is found guilty.

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And then there are sort of two buttons to end

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the episode. One is that we're at a department store

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>where Sheila's buying Noah the warm coat that he needs.

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 1>We see it over the shoulder POV of a sketchy

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>guy in a hoodie watching them. Shila turns her back

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 1>for literally four seconds, and when she's gone, Noah's gone

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>without a peep. I don't know if that really will

0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>happen with like a kid that's as old as Noah, Like,

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you say something, but whatever. At the

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>precinct the Monster, there's a New York Post or it's

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>not the New York Posts, like the Ledger or something.

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a headline that the Monster is caged is the headline.

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>So his career is totally over. And I'm like, now,

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>in the real world, it's not. Plenty of athletes have

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>raped and kept going on to make millions more dollars,

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but I guess in this case, we think that his

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>MMA career will suffer, and then Live gets the call

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>from Sheila and we end the episode on this terrified

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>face of hers because clearly Noah has been taken well.

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 2>And also Finn is right there with you because they're like, uh, oh,

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>what's the monster going to do? And Finn goes he

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 2>can go to Hollywood? Yeah, which I thought was a

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 2>nice little dig there, Finn. But also he did the

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 2>right thing and he did I guess he did rape,

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 2>but he didn't rape. Like, I just wonder why he

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 2>would be vilified. Is it because he had to plead?

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Like we see the story, like we know the truth, Like,

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I just wonder why he would still.

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:00.040
<v Speaker 1>Be So I think that this kind of story it

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>is like really hard to get through to people in

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:03.240
<v Speaker 1>the press.

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 3>It's just so confusing and it's like what do you mean?

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>And like I think people wouldn't believe it, or like

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>remember when Mantiteo got Catfish, people were like it kind

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 1>of ruined his career a little bit, Like people were

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 1>just like, how could you be so stupid? Like so,

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, there's a lot of life.

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 2>This is an amazing tie into what we're going to

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 2>talk about soon with the crime and in unprecedented history

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 2>of this podcast, the crime's pretty chill. It's actually a

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 2>pretty fun crime. There's not a rape to be seen here,

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 2>no one gets physically hurt, there's no burnings. Like this

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a smooth sailing crime. I cannot wait.

0:44:43.840 --> 0:45:02.800
<v Speaker 2>We will get into it when we come back. Okay,

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 2>welcome back. So this crime I've actually known about for

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 2>a very very long time. It was an episode of

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.399
<v Speaker 2>Catfish that I happened to catch one time.

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Liza, you watch Catfish religiously admit it on the road.

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like if you know, if there's no SVU or

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Housewives or Kardashians or South Park.

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>It's this or Simpson's it's like a solid seven or

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>eight down on your road televisions, I will watch Catfish.

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>So this is on episode twelve of season six. It

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 2>is called Open Investigation. If you want to check it out.

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I think something weird happened with one of the hosts.

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't really know, but yeah, there was a me

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 2>too thing. I think book go on and this is

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 2>this was the biggest show of their career because it

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 2>was a legit crime. It wasn't like a pre super

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 2>produced thing. So basically, this girl Paris done. She is very,

0:45:55.920 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 2>very pretty hot girl, and she this in twenty twelve,

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and she posts lots of photos.

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 3>She's having a good time, and she had a.

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Giant crush on Chris Anderson, who is an NBA player

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 2>on the Denver Nuggets at the time, and he's nicknamed

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Birdman because he has a mohawk, lots of tattoos, and

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:24.280
<v Speaker 2>he flaps his arms like a bird and the audience

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 2>loves it.

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to say.

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 2>So he's known for his flapping movements and he was

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 2>described by some as like the white Denis Rodman, you know,

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 2>a little bad boy, and or she.

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 3>He's six ' ten, a giant guy. Wow. Yeah, and

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 3>he is fucking hot. Okay, he is hot.

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 2>I understand why Paris had a crush on this NBA player.

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 2>So she commented on his post and she legit wrote, hey,

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you should text me and put her phone number on

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.400
<v Speaker 2>a comment. So it's kind of like what you referenced

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.439
<v Speaker 2>with the episode where it's like, was there verified counts

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve? I don't know, Like the timing of

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 2>everything does really affect it. I don't think anyone would

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:09.879
<v Speaker 2>put their phone numbers so prominently like this, And then

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.760
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, he friend requests her and starts

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 2>texting her. So Paris is living her fantasy and she's

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 2>like in Georgia or something, I don't remember, Tennessee, like.

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Pick a state down there, and that's where she is.

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:25.240
<v Speaker 3>So they're texting.

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, they start sending nudes, and they start, you know,

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 2>some sexual photos, some sexting, all of that. So she

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 2>also then starts getting texts from a guy named Tom,

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and Tom is Birdman's best friend, and so he's like, soh.

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I'm Chris's friend, Like what do you think about

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 3>all this?

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 2>And so she starts texting with this other guy too,

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 2>and Tom is the one that proposes, like you should

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 2>come see Chris, like you guys should meet, and he

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and she goes okay, and so they do decide to meet.

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.919
<v Speaker 3>So she flies to fucking Denver.

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 2>They've never talked on the phone, there's not been a

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 2>skype in sight, but she hops a plane. This guyfe insight,

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 2>hops on a plane and flies to Denver to meet

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Chris Anderson. And my favorite thing I also watched a

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty segment on this crime as well, and it's

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 2>called hooking a Catfish.

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 3>And Deborah Roberts is the interviewer.

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 2>And what's amazing is she's interviewing Paris and the whole

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 2>time she's like, did this concern you?

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 3>And Paris is like, nah, not at all. And she's like,

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 3>were you nervous about sending nude? She goes, no, he

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:29.800
<v Speaker 3>was hot. I loved it. She goes, were you scared

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 3>to fly?

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 2>She goes, no, not at all. Didn't think it was weird.

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 2>So it's really funny, like Deborah is trying to like

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 2>bring some sort of like levity to this and this

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 2>girl Paris is just like cuckockachew. She's just like I

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 2>love it, Like she's just hot and wants to fuck

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 2>and had not like no suspicions at all about anything,

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 2>But why would you have suspicions about anything? She flies

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 2>to Denver and guess who's waiting to pick her up.

0:48:56.040 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 2>It's fucking Birdman. So this NBA player picks her up

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 2>up from the airport. So like they do say like, now,

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 2>like there was inconsistencies where he said like, oh, did

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:09.480
<v Speaker 2>you bring all that victorious secret for me?

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 3>And she goes what are you talking about?

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And when she brought up Tom, he had no idea

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.440
<v Speaker 2>who she was talking about, but she just thought he

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 2>was being like jokey, you know, like what do you mean?

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea who that is. But like so

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 3>she thought it was a joke.

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:27.760
<v Speaker 2>But also in hindsight, of course, all these little details

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>is kind of like the Pensacola thing within the episode,

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 2>like you never think there's more when the guy is

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 2>standing right in front of you. Nothing can be more

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 2>real than this fucking hotty picking you up. And I

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 2>guess he was also like, hey, so are you excited

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 2>for your trip to Africa? And she's like, what the

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 2>fuck are you talking about?

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 1>So there was some like they honestly, they probably just

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>both assumed, oh, you're talking to like three other guys,

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you're talking to five other girls, like you you're mixing

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:55.840
<v Speaker 1>me up with someone else, because like we're young and

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>we're fucking a lot of people.

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they have a great they have a great time.

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I think they fuck they have the it's great. This

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.319
<v Speaker 2>is like a dream. I'm just thinking if I had

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 2>a crush on a celebrity and then that celebrity was

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:13.279
<v Speaker 2>like come here and then I fucked. I would just

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 2>be like, what the fuck? Like this it's too good

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 2>to be true. So then he has to go to

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 2>practice and she goes nuts. She starts taking selfies with

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 2>his dog, with his shoes and his closet and the bat.

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she is just like on a selfie storm.

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 2>And during this time Tom is texting her being like, oh,

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:29.839
<v Speaker 2>did you have fun?

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Send me this photo? Send me that photo.

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 2>So Tom is like telling her what to do in

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:36.839
<v Speaker 2>the house and she's fighting Tom back a little where

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 2>it's like, no, I don't want to do that.

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Wait, kar, I can't believe you're listening to this not

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 2>knowing what Birdman looks like, and the fact that Lisa

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 2>thinks he's hot.

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm texting you a picture the second okay, guyst No,

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 3>I am so as a basketball fan, you guys, not

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 3>knowing who this is so funny to be Birdman was

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:55.280
<v Speaker 3>like the joke of the NBA.

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I've never seen this person in my life.

0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>But I also don't think he's hot, no at all mortifying.

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:04.320
<v Speaker 1>He is not hot, Lisa and everyone made fun of

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>him so much, so this is extra funny. I could

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 1>see a million girls wanting to go fly across country

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to fuck this guy. It's just funny you listening to

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 1>this having no idea what he looked like, and not

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>knowing that he's such a joke.

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:20.919
<v Speaker 3>He could be a I mean, I guess I'm more

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 3>into like the accessory. I like tattoos. Tattoos, you're into that.

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 3>I kind of get it.

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm a tattoo girl. I can't really can't deny it.

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 2>You love ink, Okay. So then there's like some weirdness

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>of how everything goes south. So one story is like

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Chris and Tom were obsessed with Call of Duty and

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess there was a guy in Indiana that was

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 2>like beating them and they didn't like it. And they

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 2>were trying to convince Paris to fly to Indiana and

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:53.879
<v Speaker 2>steal the guy's account and password. So that was weird

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and she didn't want to do that, and that apparently

0:51:56.520 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 2>set Chris and Tom off. The other thing is that

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Paris is saying that she was telling Birdman that her

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 2>friend got her some sort of passes to meet Blake Griffin,

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 2>another NBA player, and that set him off, like he

0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 2>was pissed that she was going to go see this

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 2>other NBA player and I would like to add sorry,

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 2>but I have met Blake Griffin. He's like a big

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:22.879
<v Speaker 2>comedy fan and he was doing comedy for a while.

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 2>So he was at the Just for Laughs festival in

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Montreal one year and he was the selfie to get.

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's not one comedian that year that did

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.319
<v Speaker 2>not run to Blake s all of them all.

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>And was like, is this fucking guy doing Is this

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the guy that was married to Kim Kardashian.

0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, this guy is dating No,

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 3>but he's dating Kendall. He was dating Kendall.

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>He was dating Kendall, and I was like, is this

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>guy doing comedy? And I guess he sort of was.

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, he did the roast of Caitlyn Jenner recently, but

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.800
<v Speaker 2>he was also a fan. Anytime I saw him, he

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm going to the v panel, like he

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 2>was jazz to be there. And I actually got to

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:00.319
<v Speaker 2>do a host They do a show called me Night's

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Surprise or the lineup's always a surprise for the audience,

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>and so he hosted a show and I.

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.319
<v Speaker 3>Was on it, and so I was like, I better

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:08.720
<v Speaker 3>fucking kill Blake Griffin.

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 2>It's to think I'm amazing, and I will. But he

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 2>was like really nice and cool, so I understand Paris

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 2>if she so, I don't. I don't know if it's

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 2>the Xbox thing or the Blake Griffin or I'm not

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:23.800
<v Speaker 2>really sure. But something sets them off and Chris starts

0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and everything's in air quotes like obviously there's you know,

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Tomfoolery afoot.

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:31.440
<v Speaker 3>So something's afoot.

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:34.320
<v Speaker 2>But Chris starts texting Paris like I'm gonna kill you,

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:36.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna rape you, I'm gonna dump your body, I'm

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna throw you on the side of the streets, starts

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:42.520
<v Speaker 2>threatening like it all becomes super super violent, and then

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:46.799
<v Speaker 2>what Chris is getting is messages being like you better

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 2>give me money or I'm gonna say you rape me,

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:52.720
<v Speaker 2>like starts threatening him and twenty twenty had an interview

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:55.879
<v Speaker 2>with his like longtime lawyer and friend and manager type

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 2>person who also lets us know that Chris Anderson was

0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 2>like a foster kid who's like loves to do a

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of community service, Like he's like he's like a

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 2>really good guy. But then Paris starts receiving texts from

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Chris that are like threatening her, threatening to put her

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.319
<v Speaker 2>nudes online and demanding all of these things from her.

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 3>So it was confusing. So all of a sudden, all

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Paris's nudes are on some reddit, some blog.

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where they are on the internet. This

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 2>is beyond my brain's capacity. But the nudes go on

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:31.719
<v Speaker 2>the internet. Now, this is obviously non consensual sharing of

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:36.479
<v Speaker 2>nude photos. But what is crazy is Paris lied about

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 2>her age, and Paris is under age and she's seventeen

0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:39.359
<v Speaker 2>years old.

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Liza, want a twist. When I was seventeen,

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:45.959
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't fly anywhere without what the heck?

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's an amazing point, Kara, thank you for saying that.

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 2>So basically, Deborah Roberts is like, what do you mean

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you just flew? What did your parents say?

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 3>And she goes, well, I was dating a guy in Washington,

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 3>so I just told them I was going to go

0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 3>visit him. So she's just like a very sexually mature

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 3>team never in a million years.

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:10.760
<v Speaker 2>So at this point she's really upset that her nudes

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.799
<v Speaker 2>are on the internet, and so she tells her mother

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.759
<v Speaker 2>and her mother is like, are you fucking kidding me?

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:18.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm calling the motherfucking cops.

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 2>So the authorities get involved now because there's underage photography

0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 2>of a nude child on the internet. What's gonna happen

0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 2>now the authorities are involved. This is a giant scandal.

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 2>This is all over the news. Chris Anderson's house is

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 2>being raided by the FBI. This is you know, all

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 2>the news are like, Chris Anderson is a child pornographer.

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 2>He likes child porn. He gets kicked off the Nuggets.

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.879
<v Speaker 2>His career is pretty much over, his reputation is over.

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 2>And he is a very you know, he's like a giant, tall,

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 2>tattooed man. So he's very popular in Denver. He had

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 2>to leave Denver because he's so well known. People were screaming,

0:55:57.719 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, awful things at him that he's a fucking pediphile.

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 2>So the FBI takes everyone's technology and guess what they

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 2>figure out there's an in between person and all of

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the communication is being centered from fucking Canada, a tiny

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 2>town called Easterville that's five hours away from fucking Winnipeg.

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 2>It's the tiniest town to the point where there's not

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:21.720
<v Speaker 2>even a There is one grocery.

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Store and that is it.

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:25.359
<v Speaker 2>It is in the middle of nowhere, and Paris does

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 2>earlier say like she was confused that the area codes

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:31.560
<v Speaker 2>were weird, But when you're a horny teen, you're not

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:32.400
<v Speaker 2>what are you going to do?

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're like, maybe she hasn't watched twenty two full

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 1>seasons of Law and Order resview and become a detective.

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So all of a sudden we find out that

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:44.759
<v Speaker 2>there's double catfishing going on.

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:47.440
<v Speaker 3>They've never seen anything like it. What the fuck is

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 3>going on? And so Chris.

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:52.399
<v Speaker 2>Anderson does eventually get cleared of everything, and the age

0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 2>of consent in Denver is seventeen, so.

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 3>He didn't he didn't do anything illegal. He did not

0:56:57.680 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 3>do anything illegal.

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 2>But and they talk about this like the news blast

0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 2>of him being exonerated wasn't as big as that he's.

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 3>A fucking child pedophile. So there are some people that

0:57:10.880 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 3>probably still associate his reputation with these crimes even though

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 3>he did nothing wrong. So now who is this girl?

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 2>So the they're getting catfished by a woman named Shelley Chardier,

0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:27.480
<v Speaker 2>which is funny because the episode kept talking about poop

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 2>bags and her last name has the word chart in it.

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, you know.

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Chardier sounds like, yeah, like a fucking parody of Cardier

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 1>but with charding or something like.

0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 3>So, Shelley is everyone. Shelley is Chris Anderson. Shelley is Paris,

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Shelley is Tom, she is everybody she has.

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 2>She's the one that had a Chris Anderson account, followed

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:53.240
<v Speaker 2>her texted Paris with the number, and investigators still don't

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 2>know how she got Chris Anderson's phone number, Like the

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 2>police has still not been able to figure it out. WHOA.

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:03.000
<v Speaker 2>So all of their communication, like on SVU, is going

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:06.919
<v Speaker 2>through this third party. They were never texting each other ever,

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:12.840
<v Speaker 2>so it is so wild. And Shelley also pretended to

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:16.439
<v Speaker 2>be Paris's mother who threatened Chris and asked for money,

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 2>and Chris's lawyer actually gave her money and thought it

0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 2>would be over and then the photos went up and

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:24.320
<v Speaker 2>all this happened anyways, so she is also now on

0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 2>the hook for extorting, blackmailing like everything. And obviously she's

0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a really good catfisher, Like this isn't her only con,

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Right, So we'll learn a

0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:37.760
<v Speaker 2>lot about Shelley, but she is pretty diabolical. She's had

0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 2>over eleven victims over three years. She's impersonated a YouTube comedian,

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:44.320
<v Speaker 2>a playboy playmate, and Brody.

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Jenner, which is funny. She's very good at this.

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Wow. So obviously the Catfishing Show, the two men they go,

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:54.080
<v Speaker 2>they go to fucking Easterville. So we're gonna meet Shelley

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:59.120
<v Speaker 2>since this happened in Cannaba and Cannibal. Since this happened

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 2>in Canada, we meet some Canadian police officers. And so

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:09.000
<v Speaker 2>this guy is named Constable Gord Olsen and he's the

0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 2>main Canada cop. That's he's the main dude on all

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 2>this investigating. And he said that Shelley has no remorse

0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 2>and that Chris should thank her for bringing a hottie

0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 2>to him and like that they should both be thanking

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 2>her kind of in a way of like setting them up.

0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:27.320
<v Speaker 3>So this is the best.

0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 2>So Chris Anderson does not do any interviews or talk

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 2>about this period in his life at all, like there

0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 2>was very He does not participate in any of this.

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 2>So the Catfish Show went to the Scholar Brothers as

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 2>sports experts on Chris Anderson, which is.

0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Like like Randy and Jason Sklar.

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so they go to the Twin comedians for their

0:59:48.480 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 2>sports professional friends with.

0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know if I'm friends. I've done that,

0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 3>I've met them.

0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I was just in a comedy's inenter show married to Randy.

0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 1>We were married to each other.

0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:00.320
<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding? Yeah? I know that.

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, incorporate. I knew you were in corporate. I

1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:04.800
<v Speaker 2>thought it was a show called Randy's Brother And I'm like, wait,

1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:09.720
<v Speaker 2>what no, no, no, Nory and I are a married

1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 2>corporate You weren't. Everyone Kara was in corporate.

1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:15.520
<v Speaker 3>So five seconds, everybody check it out. I have a

1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 3>couple of lines.

1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 2>So the scholar brothers are here and they're giving like

1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:23.960
<v Speaker 2>their take on everything that's neither here nor there. But

1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:27.240
<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of funny to me. So anyways, the

1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:30.480
<v Speaker 2>two guys, they fly to Canada and they're eating sushi

1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:33.840
<v Speaker 2>on the plane and it's like, come on, guys, Okay. Anyways,

1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:39.400
<v Speaker 2>So another added thing about Shelley is she also pretended

1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:42.240
<v Speaker 2>to be Tom with a woman in Texas and they

1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:44.160
<v Speaker 2>were in a relationship for years.

1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.520
<v Speaker 2>So when the constable like told the Texas woman, she

1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:53.240
<v Speaker 2>was like fully heartbroken.

1:00:53.760 --> 1:00:55.320
<v Speaker 3>She was like in distress.

1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:57.600
<v Speaker 2>She couldn't believe that this guy that she'd been dating

1:00:57.680 --> 1:01:00.240
<v Speaker 2>for years was actually Shelley Charte, So.

1:01:00.640 --> 1:01:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Like tail as old as time. You're not dating somebody

1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:05.760
<v Speaker 1>for years whose face you've never seen in person?

1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no for sure.

1:01:07.520 --> 1:01:10.680
<v Speaker 1>But I mean you've never even facetimed, like you've never

1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:13.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just not a skype in sight.

1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:17.160
<v Speaker 3>As Lisa said, it's crazy, it is. But I don't

1:01:17.200 --> 1:01:20.560
<v Speaker 3>know if we're facetimes as popular. I mean, I don't know.

1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I was tricked once into having a job where I

1:01:23.560 --> 1:01:25.480
<v Speaker 2>sold things out of a van for a day and

1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I hated it, and it was supposed to be a

1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:29.520
<v Speaker 2>marketing position, Like we don't know what we're going to

1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:31.040
<v Speaker 2>be tricked into sometimes.

1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:33.120
<v Speaker 1>But you showed up there was a van, Like I'm

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:35.760
<v Speaker 1>just saying, we have to have some tangible things there,

1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't have a multiple year relationship with somebody

1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:42.080
<v Speaker 1>who was she ever speaking to them on the phone? No,

1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:44.760
<v Speaker 1>And she was using a voice changer, Like how was that?

1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:48.640
<v Speaker 3>You know? No phone calls for two years? That's crazy.

1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Do you not watch Catfish?

1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:50.520
<v Speaker 1>No?

1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:51.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't watch the movie.

1:01:51.840 --> 1:01:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I saw the movie in the theater, and you know,

1:01:56.120 --> 1:01:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I was talking to some friends about this case because

1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with it and it's also usually the victim

1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:05.680
<v Speaker 2>or the catfishers do live lives like in the show Intent.

1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:07.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like sad in the middle of nowhere else.

1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:10.160
<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna get to know Shelley. I will let

1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:10.640
<v Speaker 3>you know that.

1:02:10.840 --> 1:02:12.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna just give you the sentence right up. There's

1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:15.120
<v Speaker 2>just so much info that's not like I need to

1:02:15.160 --> 1:02:17.880
<v Speaker 2>save this to the end. Shelley was sentenced to eighteen

1:02:17.960 --> 1:02:21.640
<v Speaker 2>months in prison. So she did go to jail. And

1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:23.640
<v Speaker 2>the town that she lives in is so small that

1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the community center turns into a courthouse once a month

1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:30.840
<v Speaker 2>and that's where court happens. There's not even a court

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<v Speaker 2>in this town. It is so fucking tiny. But Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>still wants to extradite her. There's an active arrest warrant,

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<v Speaker 2>and if she is extradited and back in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>she is up for twenty four to forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight years in jail. Now for what what's the charge?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet it's like the child pornography show. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's the blackmail, the extraditing. Like, I'm not really

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<v Speaker 2>sure what's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it?

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<v Speaker 3>So that's like what ended up happening to her. So

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<v Speaker 3>the Catfish guys they go to meet her after she's

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<v Speaker 3>out of prison.

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<v Speaker 2>And this fact is the most upsetting to me personally,

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<v Speaker 2>is this bitch is married, okay to a hot guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am just like, how am I so desperate

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<v Speaker 2>for love? And this woman, I would like to say,

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<v Speaker 2>Shelley did not leave her house for eleven years. She

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<v Speaker 2>is a full blown hermit. She never went to the dentist.

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<v Speaker 2>Her teeth are rotting out. I'm sorry. I know people

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<v Speaker 2>are poor and it sucks to be poor, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>I am just upset that she has a spouse and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>But she met her husband through xbox.

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<v Speaker 1>They like.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy was like, damn, this girl's amazing. She keeps

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<v Speaker 2>beating me at xbox. And so because she was so

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<v Speaker 2>good at call of duty, he flew to this tiny

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<v Speaker 2>town and moved in with her and married her in

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen and they've been they're still together.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, this story God.

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<v Speaker 2>And like true to the episode intent, she takes care

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<v Speaker 2>of her mother. Her mother has been bedridden since giving

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<v Speaker 2>birth to Shelley, and Shelley is the number one caregiver

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<v Speaker 2>of her mother. And what was very interesting to me

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<v Speaker 2>is when these guys and Deborah Roberts, Like all these

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<v Speaker 2>people show up to this house. The mom cannot be bothered,

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<v Speaker 2>like she's still on her iPad scrolling, will not like

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<v Speaker 2>if it Like they all act like they don't care,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know their lives are boring and they should

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<v Speaker 2>be excited. But it is really weird, Like the mom

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<v Speaker 2>just won't stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Swiping the whole time, like playing games as these people

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<v Speaker 3>are in her house, like it it is all very wild,

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<v Speaker 3>but the mom is legit bedridden to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>like she was brought in on a stretcher to the court,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it is like most catfishing situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like people with pretty sad lives, insular,

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot to do, and like, yeah, didn't leave

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<v Speaker 2>the house for eleven years and I met a hot

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<v Speaker 2>love of her life and his family was like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>do this, and he went anyways, and then she had

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<v Speaker 2>to serve jail time. But she did say jail was

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<v Speaker 2>great for her because she didn't have any phone or

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<v Speaker 2>internet and actually forced her to make friends.

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<v Speaker 3>And so jail was actually a great time in.

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<v Speaker 2>Shelley's life where she learned how to communicate with others

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<v Speaker 2>and stay off the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>So they do meet her and they're like, how are

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<v Speaker 3>you and she's like, I'm tired, Like she just doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a film crew from MTV there. It is very,

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<v Speaker 3>very strange. Her side of the story, she was on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>She saw Chris's status on Facebook about winning a game,

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<v Speaker 2>saw Paris's comment, and that's how she decided to get

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<v Speaker 2>involved in all of this and started texting them. She

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<v Speaker 2>says that the woman in Texas is actually the one

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<v Speaker 2>that told her to do this, so she is a liar,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we can't really trust anything, she says. She says

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<v Speaker 2>that she just started casually texting in that Paris was

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<v Speaker 2>like nude, nude, nude, here's my nude, which I could

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<v Speaker 2>believe too, but she yeah. She says that the woman

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas told her to do all of this, and

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<v Speaker 2>that she denies that she ever pretended to be Tom, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>she denies ever playing games with this Texas woman, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the facts are in the hard drive, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm sorry, you can't really lie your way out

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<v Speaker 2>of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's kind of like what happened in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>She felt bad.

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<v Speaker 3>She never meant to hurt Andy, but she didn't give

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<v Speaker 3>a shit about the girl.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also saying that the Texas Woman is the one

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<v Speaker 2>that manipulated to get money from the lawyer, and that

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<v Speaker 2>she's doing the blackmailing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she is just literally escape voting this Texas

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<v Speaker 1>lady who she's been screwing over for years.

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<v Speaker 2>And they also, the caffish guys are kind of pressing her,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said, I mean, if you're telling the truth

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<v Speaker 2>about all this and the Texas Woman, you're charged with

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<v Speaker 2>things you shouldn't be charged with.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>She also did plead guilty because they promised her house arrest,

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<v Speaker 2>but then they sent her to jail.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>She also said she was pregnant at the time and

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna fight in the trial, but because she was pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't want to, and then she had a miscarriage

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<v Speaker 2>and then went to jail.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, it's hard to keep this side of it straight.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I kind of believe the Constable and the authorities

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<v Speaker 2>and paris a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>Than what's going on here. So they asked what she

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do with her life.

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<v Speaker 2>She said she wants to have kids with her husband

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<v Speaker 2>and she said she's never gonna catfish again. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>now where are they now and what's happened? So Birdman

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<v Speaker 2>came back. He played on the Miami Heat and won

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<v Speaker 2>a championship with Lebron James, and he got to meet

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<v Speaker 2>President Barack Obama in twenty fourteen, Like you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>championship team gets to go to the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was thrilling for him. And then he ended up.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing on the Grizzlies and then on the Cavaliers as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he joined this league.

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<v Speaker 3>This is insane, Kara. There's a league called Big Three

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<v Speaker 3>that is owned by ice Cube with retired NBA players

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<v Speaker 3>that play three on three basketball. I think I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>of this. I think I've weirdly heard of this.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he won a championship there, but who cares.

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<v Speaker 2>So he doesn't have an Instagram. There's not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of info on him. But he does have a long

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<v Speaker 2>term fiance. They've been engaged for like five years. Her

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<v Speaker 2>name is Tina. She's very beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I'm glad things worked out for him. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like he was kind of a victim in all this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then Shelley.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't really get any information about her post twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a good sign.

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<v Speaker 3>That means she's staying off the internet. Maybe I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>The CBC, which is Canada, they did a documentary on her,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's really nothing. Now I would like to go

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<v Speaker 2>into Paris. Oh my god, so Paris done. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find her on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>I find her as Paris Dylan and she has five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighteen thousand followers. And I'm just scrolling through

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<v Speaker 3>seeing what's up with Paris, mostly selfies, cute little selfies.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I see a photover with Alex Trebek and

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<v Speaker 3>another old man, and I'm trying to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>The old man is Don McLean. Paris Done is dating

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<v Speaker 3>Don McLean, the guy who sang American Pie. Yes he

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<v Speaker 3>is seventy five years old. No, honey, no no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>no he is he. I mean he is very You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like hard because you don't want to be judgmental,

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<v Speaker 3>but I have a very I'm very judgmental about giant

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<v Speaker 3>age gaps. I remember one time at a show there

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<v Speaker 3>was like a fun couple and then the moment they

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<v Speaker 3>told me how old everyone was. My face changed and

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<v Speaker 3>I had no interest in talking to them. It is

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<v Speaker 3>my bias. It is where I draw the line. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to work on this bias.

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<v Speaker 1>Because how old is Paris now? She was seventeen and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. She's twenty twenty five dating a seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five year old.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been dating for five years. He divorced his wife

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<v Speaker 3>to be with her. Oh my gosh. She became like

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<v Speaker 3>a playboy model. I mean her body is sick like.

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<v Speaker 3>She looks fucking incredible, and we could tell that from

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<v Speaker 3>a young age. She knew what she wanted, which is

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<v Speaker 3>fucking famous people. I mean, I don't know what I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to fame.

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<v Speaker 2>So she met Don McLean. She said she was a

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<v Speaker 2>giant fan of his music. And then I went to

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<v Speaker 2>Don's instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I went.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably spent an hour and a half on both

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<v Speaker 3>of their instagrams.

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<v Speaker 2>The way they met is she started managing his social

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<v Speaker 2>media account in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>He's worth fifty million.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars and they she just would go on the road

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<v Speaker 2>with him. There's photos of her with like Ed Sheeran

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<v Speaker 2>and all these like famous people. Because everyone loves don

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<v Speaker 2>McLean and now they just do tiktoks together and it's

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<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable because, oh my god, so they're they're quarantining together

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<v Speaker 2>and doing tiktoks.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's that's why I didn't want you to look

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<v Speaker 3>at the notes. I thought this would be just some

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<v Speaker 3>Jadra did. I over over hype it. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy where are they now? And I yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's like this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was watching it on us fore, I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's a little bit crazy, but it's not that crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It happened in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened in real life was like a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>times crazier.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, fuck, what a good one. It was wild.

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<v Speaker 2>But I so everyone, please do not come for me

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<v Speaker 2>for being so judgmental. But I don't like old men

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<v Speaker 2>dating young girls. It annoys me, and I don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, you're you.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem like a little bit focused on the physical.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like focus, I focus on like the conversations, like

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<v Speaker 1>what are you guys talking about? Like I will sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>meet someone who's ten years younger than me and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even get what your whole thing is like,

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't imagine somebody twenty five, forty five fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years younger than me like having anything to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, seventy fifty years younger than me doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know Don McLean, so I can't speak

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<v Speaker 3>for him in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, but please don't speak for American by singer Don

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<v Speaker 1>McLean Lisa.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, Honestly, I hope I hope she

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<v Speaker 3>gets that money she put it. They've been together five years.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Okay, Well, I'm gonna have to just process a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff and then we're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>our guests. I'm so excited for our next guest. She

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<v Speaker 1>has been on my all time favorite show, Clause, She's

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<v Speaker 1>been on Preacher. You can see her on Hulu's Castle

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<v Speaker 1>Rock season two. All the way from New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Catfisher, Heather Parcel, herself, Tonay in Triago. Where are

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<v Speaker 3>you right now?

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<v Speaker 4>And I am in the humid land of New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was.

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<v Speaker 1>We were reading about you that you split time, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're both like, how exciting? Because I'm obsessed with New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>I got engaged there. I love it there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, I'm wondering the casting is usually New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to New York to audition or were

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<v Speaker 2>they looking for people I other places I taped.

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<v Speaker 5>I was we were visiting family in Florida at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>because that's where we moved from before New Orleans, and

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<v Speaker 5>so I just sent a tape and I booked like

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<v Speaker 5>it's you know, it's a machine law and order, and

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<v Speaker 5>so it's like I sent in a tape and then

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<v Speaker 5>found out i've it like two days later, and then

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<v Speaker 5>the next couple of days I had to be there,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was there for two weeks or so.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe you booked off a tape.

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<v Speaker 1>That feels like a myth, Like that feels like you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like you told me you saw a unicorn.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>I've booked everything I've ever worked on off of tape. Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>it's yeah, people, I feel like I'm an imposter.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so it was. It was. It was really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the one of the best gigs I've ever

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<v Speaker 4>had ever, ever ever ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Where did they film all the West Virginia stuff?

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<v Speaker 5>We went upstate, Okay, up state yeah, yeah, yeah, cool cool,

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<v Speaker 5>which was really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>No, my husband is from West Virginia, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this has West Virginia tinges, but I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>is right right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It was upstate and I'd never been upstate before, so

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<v Speaker 5>it was it was super pretty and yeah it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>Cold it was so cold.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh but you guys were wearing summer gear, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but why had I had that?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I don't know if you guys remember the like

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<v Speaker 5>seventies kind of jacket with like.

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<v Speaker 4>The cloth collar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I loved that jacket trying to make you look

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<v Speaker 1>like a country girl, but it was actually like a

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<v Speaker 1>cute jacket. Yeah right right.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like I would wear this normally.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, and our house was like on a cliff,

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<v Speaker 5>like the house that Heather lived in was on a cliff,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It felt backwoods, like froom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, that's great. So had you been like

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<v Speaker 3>a fan of SVU before you? Did you watch it?

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<v Speaker 4>Had you guys will slaughter me?

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<v Speaker 5>I had never seen an episode before I booked the

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<v Speaker 5>shows that ended, and then it got me in and

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<v Speaker 5>then it was like, oh, this is the funnest thing

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<v Speaker 5>to watch that probably ever, it's so I don't know

1:14:46.880 --> 1:14:50.600
<v Speaker 5>the way that it's it's so dramatized. I really just

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<v Speaker 5>had fun watching the episode, which is weird because I

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<v Speaker 5>usually hate the ship that I'm in, But.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, it was so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was hotter, Steve Howie or Cariesy. We want to know,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, we want to know who was the highest.

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<v Speaker 5>I think energetically, like Steve was just like Zaddy, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like as soon as he got in, he was like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh man, and he's so humble and like a listener

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<v Speaker 5>and like it's just like, oh he was so sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had the most fun with Raoul Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, because you guys had some like courtroom tension.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>He is like the life of the party. He was

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<v Speaker 5>so fun and we just sang lay mis in between days.

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<v Speaker 1>Our listeners are gonna go nuts because they truly are

1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:43.879
<v Speaker 1>all so horny for Barbara, Like we have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>until we like posted a thing where we didn't include

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<v Speaker 1>Barbara and they really were mad at him.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>This was like right before he left, I think like

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<v Speaker 5>right before and so yeah, he was a doll. And

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<v Speaker 5>then the guy who played my my defense attorney and Fleshler. Yeah, incredible.

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<v Speaker 5>He's like one of my favorite character actors too. So

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<v Speaker 5>when I met him, I was like, are you for real?

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<v Speaker 5>Like but it was yeah, yes, Steve Howie's a babe.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so funny. So Careesy did not do it for you, No,

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Scaravino, sexy, No, he.

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<v Speaker 4>She just talked about his children the old time, the

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<v Speaker 4>whole time. Okay, So I was like, I've left my

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<v Speaker 4>child for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, take me away. Steve Howie. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean he's so handsome though, like his eyes are

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<v Speaker 5>piercing and like cut you through the core, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was describing him as like a Swedish prince or

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<v Speaker 1>something like he just like looks like a Scandinavian like

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<v Speaker 1>God Demid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait so but we want to hear about because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the we we're not particularly into this, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that listen to the pod cast are very

1:16:58.080 --> 1:17:01.000
<v Speaker 1>into the Rollins and Cares real relationship, which has a

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<v Speaker 1>big part in that episode. So we're wondering on the

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<v Speaker 1>road trip obviously you guys didn't drive six hours, but

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<v Speaker 1>right road trip scenes, could you feel the tension.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

1:17:11.120 --> 1:17:14.120
<v Speaker 5>It was so fun to just hear them because you know,

1:17:14.200 --> 1:17:18.760
<v Speaker 5>my characters like asleep, yeah, or like daydreaming out. You know,

1:17:19.040 --> 1:17:22.479
<v Speaker 5>she's just like thinking that she's going to meet her

1:17:23.120 --> 1:17:24.320
<v Speaker 5>the man that she worships.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was really fun.

1:17:26.520 --> 1:17:30.360
<v Speaker 5>There's It's funny because in cut, you know, when we're

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<v Speaker 5>just waiting for the next scene and we were we

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<v Speaker 5>drove for a while. I remember being in that car

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<v Speaker 5>for a couple hours. Oh wow, just like because of

1:17:38.600 --> 1:17:43.519
<v Speaker 5>like resetting and you know all that. But they yeah,

1:17:43.600 --> 1:17:45.960
<v Speaker 5>you could cut the tension with a knife for sure.

1:17:46.720 --> 1:17:46.920
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1:17:47.560 --> 1:17:49.400
<v Speaker 4>At one point I was sitting there and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>am I horny?

1:17:50.520 --> 1:17:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know, is this you know?

1:17:54.280 --> 1:17:57.800
<v Speaker 5>But they were, yeah, and they play. They just love

1:17:58.240 --> 1:18:01.400
<v Speaker 5>to play with each other, like they just fuck with

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<v Speaker 5>each other. We want to take on purpose, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it was super fun. And then and cut, they're

1:18:08.520 --> 1:18:11.000
<v Speaker 5>like turning back on me and they're asking me about

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<v Speaker 5>my life and they were really eager to like learn.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I was from New Orleans and yeah, all of that.

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<v Speaker 5>But on my end, I'm like, wait, no, tell me

1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:20.880
<v Speaker 5>about what you guys going on, because I you know,

1:18:20.920 --> 1:18:23.519
<v Speaker 5>I'd never seen the show. I didn't know that anything

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<v Speaker 5>was building for them, and so whenever I'm noticing this,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, they like, what a fuck?

1:18:30.720 --> 1:18:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's what most of the listeners think too,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still hasn't happened in season twenty two.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I know it's crazy. They're really they're really

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<v Speaker 4>drawing it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're doing They're turning them into a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a gym and a pam.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there other fun on set stories or moments that

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<v Speaker 2>you remember.

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<v Speaker 5>I really had fun with the director, like a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>His name is Adam Bernstein. He directed the episode, and

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<v Speaker 5>my favorite part of shooting was the courtroom scene because

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<v Speaker 5>everyone was fucking with me, even Raoul, bringing me back

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<v Speaker 5>to saying poop bag like a million times, like, and

1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:17.519
<v Speaker 5>you know, she's super upset in that moment, like and

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<v Speaker 5>I have to change mama's poop bag.

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<v Speaker 4>She deserves what she got. They would cut right before

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<v Speaker 4>I had to.

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<v Speaker 5>Say she deserves so I'd be like, and I have

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<v Speaker 5>to change mama's poop bag, and then they'd cut and Adam.

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<v Speaker 4>Would be like, all right, we're going to restart from

1:19:31.160 --> 1:19:31.679
<v Speaker 4>poop bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's you know, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a running joke with all of my friends, like

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<v Speaker 4>at any.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because I had seen the episode a few times

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<v Speaker 2>and then once we were dming on Instagram, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>how often you said poop bag. When I watched it again,

1:19:47.280 --> 1:19:48.280
<v Speaker 2>I could not stop laughing.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, you can't not hear it, because it's

1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:52.960
<v Speaker 5>like in the courtroom scene and then even in the

1:19:53.080 --> 1:19:57.680
<v Speaker 5>scene when they come to her house, right because the

1:19:57.840 --> 1:19:59.479
<v Speaker 5>mom June's like, well, who's going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Change my mom?

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<v Speaker 5>Boom man, you know, and it's just like that was

1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:07.040
<v Speaker 5>really important to say a lot in that episode.

1:20:07.080 --> 1:20:09.080
<v Speaker 4>The writers were like, we're going to put this in here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Well that was just such like the poop

1:20:12.920 --> 1:20:16.599
<v Speaker 1>bag is really symbolic of your life and how bad

1:20:16.720 --> 1:20:19.759
<v Speaker 1>it is, and because it is, yeah, because we're supposed

1:20:19.760 --> 1:20:21.479
<v Speaker 1>to really really sympathize with you and be like, I

1:20:21.520 --> 1:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know, she didn't mean for this to happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that turn at the end where you like you

1:20:25.280 --> 1:20:27.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of did mean for it to happen, And yeah,

1:20:28.000 --> 1:20:31.240
<v Speaker 1>we were wondering, like, how'd you squeeze out that solitary

1:20:31.400 --> 1:20:33.680
<v Speaker 1>tear when you were on the stand, How was that?

1:20:34.160 --> 1:20:36.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm a trained professional.

1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Is how that happened?

1:20:39.040 --> 1:20:42.600
<v Speaker 5>No, honestly, I don't know, because I was it was

1:20:42.720 --> 1:20:44.679
<v Speaker 5>so funny. We were cracking up, That's.

1:20:44.520 --> 1:20:44.880
<v Speaker 3>What I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like in between takes, it's like poop bag poop

1:20:47.200 --> 1:20:49.160
<v Speaker 1>bag tear, Like I don't know, it's like hard to

1:20:49.320 --> 1:20:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you're making a show.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the poop bag gods were looking at upon

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<v Speaker 5>me and just really blessing me in that moment to

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<v Speaker 5>release one singular tear.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know how it happened. I honestly, I

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<v Speaker 4>think I just kept.

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<v Speaker 5>My eyes open really long time, like just like I'm

1:21:09.320 --> 1:21:11.680
<v Speaker 5>just going to dry him out because this is impossible.

1:21:12.200 --> 1:21:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

1:21:12.920 --> 1:21:14.519
<v Speaker 4>Oh it's so good.

1:21:14.800 --> 1:21:17.439
<v Speaker 5>It is a singular tier and the moment it feels

1:21:17.479 --> 1:21:20.439
<v Speaker 5>like you're crying so much, but like it was just one.

1:21:20.600 --> 1:21:22.519
<v Speaker 3>It just was kind of cool about it though.

1:21:22.560 --> 1:21:23.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like restrained. You know.

1:21:24.120 --> 1:21:26.479
<v Speaker 2>Another moment I loved with your characters when the cops

1:21:26.560 --> 1:21:29.040
<v Speaker 2>did come, you had you were like okay, yeah, let's

1:21:29.080 --> 1:21:31.400
<v Speaker 2>goet like you weren't scared.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe she wanted out.

1:21:33.120 --> 1:21:35.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, you wanted to shake everybody's hand. You

1:21:35.840 --> 1:21:39.120
<v Speaker 1>were like, hey, cool, NYPD ive seen this on TV

1:21:39.640 --> 1:21:41.320
<v Speaker 1>like you were like it was really good.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember I did that on like I did that

1:21:44.840 --> 1:21:49.360
<v Speaker 5>on the fly, like to approach them, and afterward, I

1:21:49.400 --> 1:21:52.080
<v Speaker 5>think it was Kelly. She was like, were you supposed

1:21:52.120 --> 1:21:54.680
<v Speaker 5>to shake our hand? And I was like, I don't know,

1:21:54.760 --> 1:21:57.240
<v Speaker 5>I just felt inclined. And then the director came and

1:21:57.400 --> 1:21:58.200
<v Speaker 5>was like that was weird.

1:21:58.280 --> 1:22:02.600
<v Speaker 4>We're keeping it, you know. But yeah, she was like

1:22:02.760 --> 1:22:05.920
<v Speaker 4>ready to party, go on a road trip, movie star.

1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Live her Marytyler more Fantasy. Yes, I know it's so sad.

1:22:11.000 --> 1:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>No, but you did do a really great job, like

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<v Speaker 1>turning at the end where all the frustration of your

1:22:15.280 --> 1:22:18.080
<v Speaker 1>life comes out in the courtroom, and then you probably

1:22:18.320 --> 1:22:24.439
<v Speaker 1>stopped and did uh you know Cosette solo with Oh yeah.

1:22:24.600 --> 1:22:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I was just on my like in.

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<v Speaker 4>Between, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And well, the other thing that was said allow was

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<v Speaker 2>blue Glacier, and I'm like, no woman's shampoo would ever

1:22:33.120 --> 1:22:34.360
<v Speaker 2>be called blue glacier.

1:22:34.320 --> 1:22:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah.

1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:37.840
<v Speaker 5>I was like, this girl uses like, I don't know,

1:22:38.120 --> 1:22:40.920
<v Speaker 5>pulp riot or something like blue glacier.

1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, thoughts sounded like a later axe body spray

1:22:44.320 --> 1:22:45.919
<v Speaker 1>or yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know where that came from. And I'm

1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:51.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm disappointed. I wasn't curious in the moment.

1:22:53.560 --> 1:22:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I do need everyone to know that's listening that Kara,

1:22:56.120 --> 1:22:58.040
<v Speaker 2>are you playing with a Google eye this whole time?

1:22:58.160 --> 1:23:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Is sorry? This is my daughter googly.

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<v Speaker 3>I okay, I'm sorry.

1:23:02.760 --> 1:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I've just been playing with it.

1:23:06.520 --> 1:23:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Least I held it in for a long time, but

1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:15.719
<v Speaker 3>I I, oh my god, I was just playing with it. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was amazing. What a fun girl. I want

1:23:22.320 --> 1:23:24.760
<v Speaker 3>to like go down to New Orleans and her me

1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:25.600
<v Speaker 3>and by ourselves.

1:23:26.040 --> 1:23:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to go and I want to eat those beignets.

1:23:29.240 --> 1:23:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I just I love New Orleans is magical. It's to me,

1:23:32.760 --> 1:23:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the only city that is perfectly rated. It's not overrated

1:23:36.479 --> 1:23:38.519
<v Speaker 2>at all. It's just like it is as great as

1:23:38.600 --> 1:23:41.719
<v Speaker 2>people say. And I was there alone, dude, like walking

1:23:41.800 --> 1:23:43.160
<v Speaker 2>the streets and I had fun, like.

1:23:43.760 --> 1:23:47.000
<v Speaker 3>You just party and everybody's like you just talk to people.

1:23:47.080 --> 1:23:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I love it there.

1:23:47.880 --> 1:23:52.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it's so fun. Instruments music everywhere. Yeah, it's awesome.

1:23:53.200 --> 1:23:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Listen, let's talk about let's get into our post mortem.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about what we learned from this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do want to mention another to I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so glad that she spelt the tension between Careesie and

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<v Speaker 2>Rollins and wants to fuck Steve Howie.

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<v Speaker 3>She is married, But I'm glad that she had all

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<v Speaker 3>the sexy gossip just ready to share, and about Barbara,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, she knew what want and she gave

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<v Speaker 3>it to us. Oh yeah, she gave you Barbara brigade. Enough.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all Cohen and your spak gross I hate that praise. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into our post mort on, Lisa, what do

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<v Speaker 1>we learn from today's episode? I mean, for me, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are a celebrity and you're talking to another celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>just look for that blue check mark, baby, Like, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking to somebody who has two hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>followers but is not verified and giving out phone numbers?

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<v Speaker 3>Just double check, do your due diligence, have a FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, figure something out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, even if someone tells you they have a rape fantasy,

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<v Speaker 2>I would maybe triple check, or you just bounce into

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<v Speaker 2>it with a stranger, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would just keep checking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, first of all, if you are going to

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<v Speaker 1>do something like that, you always have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>safe word, and you should check about that up top,

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<v Speaker 1>Like safe word is still eagle right, like or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>your safe word is going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's a fun safe word anything, but yes,

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<v Speaker 3>safe word. That's a great way to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you should always have a safe word ready prepped always.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't I don't know. I don't like cauliflower ear, so

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<v Speaker 2>don't like anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>That has that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Don't have sex with those ears.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, like, well this is more for the real cry

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<v Speaker 2>and catfish, But it's like talk to someone on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone before you fly to meet them, like FaceTime, see

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<v Speaker 2>their face, like you have to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I just yeah, you shocking firm identities, make sure the

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<v Speaker 1>area code is right. Like it's just I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>catfish is a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have a new catfish podcast coming out, so

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<v Speaker 2>it keeps happening. These people keep I just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand how you're not facetiming in the years now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one, even with the pandemic. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>even more like I FaceTime people. I would never have

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<v Speaker 2>been facetiming. I would just be seeing them, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like I know that especially right now, like

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<v Speaker 1>people feel isolated, people feel alone, but like just don't allow,

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<v Speaker 1>don't like allow internet conversation to make you completely forget

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<v Speaker 1>like all of your red flags and your instincts and

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<v Speaker 1>like your rules about when you get to know a person,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can't be dating somebody for two years and

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<v Speaker 1>never have seen their face, like at least over face time.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just yeah, nuts, say.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll leave your house, you know, take a walk around

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<v Speaker 2>the block, take a walk, you can go out have

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<v Speaker 2>some fun. Well, I was gonna say, don't just buy

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<v Speaker 2>things that influencers put on the internet, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm sorry, says a girl wearing at Jojo Seawall

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<v Speaker 1>scrunchy right now, Oh, I buy.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything I buy, Like, yeah, Hillary Roda put on Essay

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<v Speaker 2>later and I'd say, i'man I bought Esta latter night, Sarah, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Is never going to freaking hawk blue Glacier shampoo. Ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not buy blue Glacier shampoo. That's not something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not real. But if it was real, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>man's thing. That sounds like a man thing. Don't buy

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<v Speaker 3>a heteronormative No, I'm being heteronormative. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, don't judge Instagram hose you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Like everyone's allowed to make money being showing off their

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<v Speaker 2>body if they want, and it doesn't mean like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, don't judge them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because now she's in a perfectly happy relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>the singer of American Pie.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, what are you talking about, Don McLean? Oh yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was imagining Jason Biggs.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm young.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Lisa, you're not that much more than me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't say the movie American Pie, I said

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<v Speaker 1>the singer of American Pie.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I even Don McLean. I had to google him

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times. When I hear American Pie. I think of

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Biggs and that movie before I think of the song.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't think version, No, I think of the Madonna version. Honestly, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>you are very young.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I need to let my youthful friend get off

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast and go, I don't know, download the latest

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<v Speaker 1>American Bye movie or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think like someone that I thought was cool

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<v Speaker 2>when I was younger, like shat on that song and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, it sucks or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not that great of a song. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of an American classic.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought you would know it.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I had a great moment the day that we

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<v Speaker 2>all found out Biden one. I was alone, so I

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<v Speaker 2>drove to the Like Park and Evanston and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a guy playing it on the keyboards over and over

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<v Speaker 2>again as I walked to the dog, and it was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I take everything back, this is all a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your favorite song.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I think we've beaten this episode with a dead horse.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the saying. But we've beaten it with the dead

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<v Speaker 3>We've learned all we can.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and now it is time for what What

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<v Speaker 1>Sister peg do? Our weekly segment where we direct you

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<v Speaker 1>towards an organization, a article, a book, something that helps

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<v Speaker 1>flesh out a little bit more of the topic that

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<v Speaker 1>we covered in today's episode. Today, we wanted to draw

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<v Speaker 1>your attention to the National Cybersecurity Alliance. They have an

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<v Speaker 1>article up there called five Easy Ways to Protect Yourself Online.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll link to it in our show notes as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>but their website is staysafeonline dot org.

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<v Speaker 3>Just don't get catfish, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what generally their messages and how to

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, if you're in a long term relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with someone you've never spoken to or seen. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>red flag.

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<v Speaker 3>So stay safe.

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<v Speaker 2>And next week is for twenty Hello Taco Bell, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>coming for you and we will be covering choreographed season eight,

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<v Speaker 2>episode nine.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be chill and fun. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's another hippie com stoned me. I'm pregnant. I

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<v Speaker 3>won't be stoned.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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