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Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 2: Ellie is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Drew.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we're gonna call him and

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Speaker 2: see if he'll tell us why he's ghostinger and maybe

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Speaker 2: get her another date. But first, Ellie, how long has

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Speaker 2: it been since you heard from Drew.

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Speaker 3: It's been about three weeks.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, yeah, that's in a minute. Have you

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Speaker 1: guys had any exchanges in the three weeks.

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Speaker 3: No, it's been good silent.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, okay. How did you guys leave it at

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Speaker 1: the end of the date.

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Speaker 3: I mean it felt good. It just felt really like like,

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Speaker 3: you know, positive, and like we're flirty, we're having fun,

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Speaker 3: and like maybe we'll get together again. Like there wasn't

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Speaker 3: any like indication. I think he said he texted me

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Speaker 3: and thought I.

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Speaker 1: Was sweet, okay, And he never texted no, did you

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Speaker 1: you did?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh?

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Speaker 2: And he didn't respond at all.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: And I was trying, you know, just like, hey, how's

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Speaker 3: your week going? Very casual thing like serious. I wasn't like,

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well tell us about the date.

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Speaker 3: So well, I met Drew at like a tree Knight.

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Speaker 4: And this is so dumb.

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Speaker 3: But he was like yelling out all the wrong answers,

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Speaker 3: but like he was super confident, which I thought was cute,

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Speaker 3: Like I think it's fun when someone like is down

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Speaker 3: to make fun of themselves. And he was like passionate

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Speaker 3: even though he was wrong. And yeah, so we just

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Speaker 3: kind of got to talking and he was super honey

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Speaker 3: don't care, like but I care.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It was just very but it was it was like

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Speaker 3: and he's charismatic, and we got along. We changed numbers

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Speaker 3: and then we were texting a little bit and then

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Speaker 3: he asked me to go mini golfing, which I love

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Speaker 3: and it's like fun and love pressure and the curting

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Speaker 3: cute idea. It's kind of like you have an activity

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Speaker 3: so you don't have to like stare at each other

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Speaker 3: at like a dinner table, right.

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Speaker 2: Things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so about everything was fine and then we're having

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Speaker 3: a time, he's being funny. I think I'm being funny.

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Speaker 3: And then about like halfway through, I hissed the ball

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Speaker 3: into the water, and I was laughing, like I thought

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Speaker 3: went into like pull on like dad coach mode, like

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Speaker 3: I let it slide, like I was like whatever. We

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Speaker 3: what continued on the date, like we got a milkitic

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Speaker 3: but it was just, you know, it was pretty fun easy,

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Speaker 3: and yeah I just been silent. So I guess I'm

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Speaker 2: Why do you think he's ghosting you? Do you have

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Speaker 2: any thoughts on that?

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Speaker 3: Honestly? No, Like, I think it went really well. Like

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Speaker 3: I mean, unless he was super mad that I hit

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Speaker 1: Was there something else that happened in that moment? I

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Speaker 1: mean you said that's kind of when everything started to change.

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Speaker 3: One that I can we think of. I mean I

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, we'll see if we can figure it out

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Speaker 2: for you'll play a song, come back, and then call

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Speaker 2: him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting

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Speaker 2: you and maybe get you a second date. Okay, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll get your first day follow up next. If we're

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Speaker 2: just joining us for today's first date follow up. Ellie

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Speaker 2: is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a

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Speaker 2: guy named Drew. So we're about to call him and

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Speaker 2: see if he'll tell us why he's ghostinger and maybe

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Speaker 2: get her a second date. But before we do that, Ellie,

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Speaker 2: why don't you recap your date again for us real quick?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean we went minil thing. It was fine, maybe

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Speaker 3: got like weirdly impatant in the middle, but everything was cool.

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Speaker 3: We like how to good rest of the date, and

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Speaker 3: he said he would text me, and I haven't heard

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Speaker 3: from him in three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well are you ready for us to call him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm asking the Drew please.

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Speaker 4: This is he?

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Speaker 1: Hey Drew, how are you?

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Speaker 2: This is a radio show. It's called The Jewbile Show.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Drew.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nina.

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Speaker 2: I am Victoria and my name is Juble.

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Speaker 4: What's up? Oh? Hello? Did I win something?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure yet. You'll find out in a second though.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever listened to the show before?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I haven't. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Well, we do a segment on the show it's called

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Speaker 2: the first Date follow Up. That's where if you go

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Speaker 2: out on a date with somebody and you end up

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Speaker 2: ghosting them, that person can email us to get you

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Speaker 2: on the phone and ask why you're ghosting? Do you

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Speaker 2: have any idea? Who would email us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? About Ellie?

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Speaker 1: You knew that right away.

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Speaker 4: Uh, well, she might be. She's the only person that

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Speaker 4: I would bro I don't like the word ghosting. I

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Speaker 4: just want to put that out there. I like, uh

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Speaker 4: not responding to okay, gives me maybe it's a little

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Speaker 4: less pooky or something. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well, sounds rude, but don't mind telling us why you're

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought, Ellie, it was awesome in the beginning,

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Speaker 4: the beginning of the day was super fun. She's beautiful,

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Speaker 4: she's funny, it's flirty. We're having a good time. Uh well,

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Speaker 4: so how much do you know about the date already?

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Speaker 2: Well, we talked her a little bit about it. She said, uh,

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Speaker 2: do you guys want mini golfing stuff? But that's pretty

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we're on the mini golf course and it's

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Speaker 4: pretty even. I'd like to think I'm a little better.

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Speaker 4: She's doing a little worse than me. So I try

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Speaker 4: to give her. You know, she hits the ball really hard.

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Speaker 4: At one point at ricochet's almost hit somebody. It's kind

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Speaker 4: of dangerous looking back on. I'm trying to give her

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Speaker 4: a friendly tip on how to keep it, keep the

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Speaker 4: and I didn't gonna sound insane again. It is insane.

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Speaker 4: She says, I will destroy you. Wait right, And we

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Speaker 4: whether this is some kind of joke, whether this is

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Speaker 4: her humor. It didn't feel very funny. It felt competitive

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Speaker 4: in a way that I didn't find very attractive. I

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Speaker 4: There was I don't know, it's very intense and oh my.

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Speaker 3: God, I was. I was joking, are you serious?

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Speaker 2: She's actually on the phone and wants to talk to you, hi, Ellie.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize we'd be talking. I thought I was

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Speaker 4: talking to the radio, know, Like, how did you don't know?

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Speaker 3: I was hitting? We were like doing bits like.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't know you well enough to know

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Speaker 4: When you asked me afterwards to bow down on my

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Speaker 3: Mini golf queen, it was funny, like me, it was weird,

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Speaker 4: It's funny up to the point where there's a grown

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Speaker 4: I don't know, embarrassing, especially on a first date. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did because I kicked your as I beat

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Speaker 4: I was. I mean, I guess it sounds funny in

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I don't die like we were standing.

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Speaker 4: Its fell very wrong to me, Ali, I don't think

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Speaker 4: I just I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Like to win, it's confidence like what you want me

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Speaker 4: And lose like I'm happy for you to win, but

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Speaker 4: let's celebrate your victory together. I don't have to be

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Speaker 4: me around mini golf establishment telling people I one, I.

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Speaker 3: One, look at the loser, look at the loser.

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Speaker 4: That's not.

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Speaker 3: Maybe did you know who they were in the pred

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Sorry that I'm really I have a really.

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Speaker 3: Good eye hand coordination and I'm yeah, I'm good and

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm an ex softball player. Look how you know.

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Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I get contive.

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Speaker 4: So what I'm okay with some competition, But like at

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Speaker 4: the end of the game, we have to shake. I

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Speaker 4: don't want you to throw me to the ground.

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Speaker 1: But did she throw you to the ground?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 4: I will say, you know, I played along, but you know,

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Speaker 4: it's the first date. I'm sure. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 4: want to stay what my expectations were, but I was

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Speaker 4: things like this happened, it doesn't really it's hard to

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Speaker 4: play and I'll play along a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 4: but at a certain point it's just too much.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It was like you committed me to

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Speaker 3: I thought we were most committed.

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Speaker 4: I I guess I mean I was. I tried to

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Speaker 4: play along to the best of my ability. Don't get

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Speaker 4: me wrong. But like it's it's you called me a

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Speaker 4: loyal subject. I don't have to feel lesser than you, know,

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Speaker 4: like it's it's if you were the queen and I

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Speaker 4: was the king, that would be one thing. Don't make

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Speaker 4: me the court jester.

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Speaker 3: And no moment you were left than me because I

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Speaker 3: teach you, Like, hey.

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Speaker 2: Drew, would you like to go on another date with Ellie?

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Speaker 2: Will pay for it?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I said, I want to be

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Speaker 4: with someone who's gonna treat me as an equal. And

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Speaker 4: I don't think our first date was a great sign,

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Speaker 4: but we could make that happen.

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Speaker 3: We are equals, just not when it comes to minigolf

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Speaker 3: or probably any sport that we need.

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Speaker 4: Again, not not super encouraging of me to to get

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Speaker 4: back out with you.

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Speaker 3: All right whatever, I guess you know, Chivalry's dog or whatever,

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Speaker 3: like you just can't take a woman being really good

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Speaker 3: a sport. Juble's first date fallow up