1 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Andrea Lee Rodgers is a celebrity trainer, motivational coach, and 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: the founder of Extend. 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: Bar, which has studios all over the world. 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: You guys have probably seen her workouts on Body is 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: it pronounced body Body. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Body Okay bo d I y'all? 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Or maybe in Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, or l where she's 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: been featured. She's also a mom of two, a skincare entrepreneur, 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: and now the author of the brand new book Small Moves, 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Big Life, Seven daily practices to supercharge your energy, productivity, 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: and happiness. Andrea has built a career around helping women 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: feel stronger, calmer, and more confident, so she's here to 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: show us today how to do that without completely overhauling 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: our lives. 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: I love this idea. 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Hi, Andrea, Hello, I'm so glad to be here. Thank 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: you so much for being here. We're so excited to 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: talk to you. I was reading there was a stat 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: that says almost three fourths of women report carrying the 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: emotional stress of their family and friends, and nearly one 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: in twelve moms rate their mental health as poor or fair, 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: which made me so sad. So I'm wondering you're a 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: person who's been in the health and fitness industry forever. 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: Was there something in your life that happened because we 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: listed all your stats so we. 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: Know all the things you have going on. 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: Was there some sort of catalyst that really made you 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: say to yourself, I have to help other women get 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: out of what I'm going through right now. 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: Yes. 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 4: So I entered the fitness and wellness world because I 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: loved movement to movement was a part of my life 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: from a young age. I was a dancer and then 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 4: became a professional dancer, and after graduating from college, I 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: was quite bewildered on what I was going to do 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 4: with my adult life. Right I knew I had to adult, 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 4: and I didn't quite know how to do it. So 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: I segued my love for movement into a pilate's career, 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: which grew into extend bar, which grew into franchising and 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: all the things. 41 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: And I learned very early on. 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: That I got a high while teaching these classes, like 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: I got a high when I saw these women struggling 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: and challenging in their movements and then coming on the 45 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: other side of it and going, oh my god, I 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 4: can't believe I did that, or coming back the next 47 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: week and feeling empowered and strong coming back the next 48 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: year and being a completely different version of themselves And 49 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 4: through teaching private one on one clients, through the classes 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: and globally, you know, connecting with women. I learned very 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: early on in my fitness career the parallels between doing 52 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: something hard and your workout class and doing something hard 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: in your life and having the confidence and courage and 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: encouragement to do it in the classroom, and the same 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: thing reaching those levels in your life. And so, through 56 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: some challenges of my own that I came into not 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: expectingly right, I discovered that I needed to start to 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: adopt some of these small changes in my life in 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: order to breathe again, in order to function again, in 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: order to see the light in a very dark time 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: in my life. And through that process, I started to 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: share the things that worked with me, you know, just 63 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: very organically, like my best friends. Okay, girl, here this 64 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 4: is what I'm doing in the morning to get my 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: day going, and here's what I'm doing at night to 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: get the best leap of my life. And here are 67 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 4: some things that I'm doing when I feel like my 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: world is spinning. And those things just started to connect 69 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 4: and really make an impact in the people close to me. 70 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: And then it went from my inner circle to a 71 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: larger circle, to. 72 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: My clients, to my members, and then I decided, let's 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: write this down, Let's write a book. 74 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, put this in some form of a tangible toolkit. 75 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: You know. 76 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it so often takes us just hitting 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: the wall before we completely make a change. Do you 78 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: think burnout is just a prerequisite for us finding balance? 79 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's a great question, right, It's so true. 80 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: It's like you do because you keep going and going 81 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: and going and going until you physically or mentally cannot 82 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: any longer, and then change happens. And that's one of 83 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: the reasons why I wrote Small Moves but Life, because 84 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: I don't want that to be the catalyst for change. 85 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: I want women to be able to embrace these small 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 4: changes in their everyday life before they hit that full 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: on burnout, or as they're about to hit before everything spirals, 88 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: to adopt some of these strategies. Because I believe you're right. 89 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: I think that as women, we wear so many hats. 90 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: The expectations are so high that we put on ourselves, 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: not just society, and we just go because that's what 92 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: we can do. 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: Right, and we just layer it up, add another thing 94 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: to the duds, keep going, keep going, keep going until 95 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: you finally break. 96 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 4: And I don't think we should wait until that break 97 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: to find that calm, to find that direction and strategy 98 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: in our lives, and to feel in control again. 99 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: It feels good to control again. 100 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: I do feel like like I'm in this place. And 101 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: I don't know if you resonate with this or anyone listening, 102 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: but because of our access on social media, you know, 103 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: it feels like everyone's got a book, everyone's a coach, 104 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: everyone's doing all these things, and so sometimes it even 105 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: gets overwhelming with knowing where to start. 106 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: With what would help you better your life. 107 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, it can be a little bit overwhelming there, 108 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh my god, I have to 109 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: pay for this big program and it's so many days 110 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: in this big investment. And what I loved so much 111 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: about your process is it's seven practices that we can 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: are seven would you say, practice practices that you can 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: do in your life, but it can be done in 114 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: thirty minutes each. Was there a reason that you really 115 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: wanted to target that small amount of time. 116 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: I feel like we're soulmates, Kelly, because you just so exactly. 117 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 4: One of the reasons is because we are inundated with 118 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: these messages. Everybody is a life coach. Everybody has a 119 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: story to share. 120 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: And I think it's beautiful and I think it's wonderful, 121 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: and I think so many of them are very helpful. 122 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: But it can become this cycle of comparison, and it 123 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: can become a cycle of there is just feels like there's. 124 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: Just so much to do and so much to change. 125 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: That you freeze, right, You just freeze like I can't 126 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: possibly add more or do more in my life, and 127 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: you just stop and you don't move anywhere, and you 128 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: continue to sit back and watch other people rise while 129 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: you feel like you just stay stagnant. And so for me, 130 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 4: it was like, no, no, no, you don't need to 131 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: overhaul everything. You don't need to do three workouts, one outside, 132 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 4: one inside. You don't need to you know, read five 133 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 4: books today. You don't need to like do all the things. 134 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: Here are some very simple things, not rocket science, although 135 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 4: back by science, that are going to actually make you 136 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: feel like, holy cow, like I'm actually making progress. I'm 137 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: actually moving the needle, I'm moving towards the right direction 138 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 4: without feeling like I'm just in a swirl, you know, 139 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 4: Like I heard. 140 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: Some of the other day. I was at my daughter's 141 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: cheerleading game. 142 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: So I was at the football game and another parent 143 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 4: was staying hi to a parent walking by and said, Hey, 144 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: how you doing, And she was like, uh, I'm maintaining. 145 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: That was like sad, I know, and I was like, 146 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: I stopped her. I said maintaining, Yeah, Okay, I get that, 147 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: but like I feel like that's what we do. We 148 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: just get through the day. Every day. It's like, let's 149 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: get through the day. 150 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: And that's not a way to live, right, And there 151 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 4: will be days like that. Realistically, not every day is 152 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 4: going to be like thriving. But if we can zoom 153 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: out and have more days that we feel like we're 154 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: kind of doing the right things and we're feeling good 155 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: about ourselves at the end of the day as opposed 156 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: to just maintaining, you know, that's that's the goal and 157 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: that's where change happens, and that's where pride occurs. 158 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 159 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we need that thing where you're having 160 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: the little small win even to keep going right, Like 161 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: you need the motivation of that. 162 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: That's motivation Yeah, motivation doesn't wake you up, like you 163 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 4: don't get up. 164 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: In the morning you're like, I'm so motivated. 165 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: I mean sometimes you are, but it's the discipline to 166 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: do the small things. And then when you do those 167 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: songs things, you get those moments like you just said, Kelly. 168 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: Where you're like, oh, I just did that. That's that's 169 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: a win. 170 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: That's a win for the day, and that creates a 171 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: little bit of pride and that creates motivation, and then 172 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: you do it again and it just starts. 173 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: To add up. 174 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to talk about the do the thing, 175 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: the DTT method. That really stuck out to me because 176 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: I feel like I live by endlest to do list. 177 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: You know, that is just constantly where my life feels it. 178 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: It's it's the guiding force, but they never get done fully. 179 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: So how is this different? 180 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, so that was my life. 181 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: Okay, I lived by that to do list and at 182 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: one point I had just moved to New York City. Okay, 183 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: I had just gone through a very difficult separation and divorce, 184 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: going through divorce, and I decided, yes, let's move to 185 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: New York City. Is a single mom with two kids 186 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: and nobody that I know there, I think that's gonna 187 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: be a great idea. And everybody thought I was crazy 188 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: in my life, but I knew that was what I 189 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 4: needed to do. However, it was so overwhelming, right, I 190 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 4: went from like a nice house to this. 191 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: Tiny, dainty, tiny two bedroom apartment. I was like, girls, 192 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: take all of your toys and they fit in one box. 193 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: So whatever fits in this box is what we take. 194 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 4: And we had this little, tiny apartment and I remember 195 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: just standing there. I'll never forget it, and the girls 196 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: were playing over here in the room. The other one 197 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: was playing in the living room, and there were boxes everywhere, 198 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 4: and I was like, and I was running an international business, right, 199 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: and I'm sitting myself going what the hell. 200 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: Did I do? Like how am I going to do this? 201 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: And I just was o physically, you know, overwhelmed with boxes. 202 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 3: And I had this to. 203 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: Do list and I was like, this is like it 204 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 4: looked like a failure list. Right. It gave me anxiety 205 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: every time I looked at it, and I was like, 206 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: there has to be a better way, Like I can't 207 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: keep adding to this list because I'm drowning. So I 208 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: just ripped it up and I sat down at my 209 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 4: tiny little table that only fit three chairs because that's 210 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: all we had room for an apartment. And I sat 211 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 4: there and I looked outside at my neighbor, who I 212 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: could pretty much see brushing their teeth, and I was like, 213 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: three things today. I'm just going to attack with no excuses, 214 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: three non negotiables today, and I'm going to be more 215 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: strategic about what I write down. I'm going to think 216 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: about this. I'm going to be intentional with what I 217 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 4: do today. What are the three things that I can 218 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: do today that are going to make me feel like 219 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: I accomplish something today. 220 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: So when I put my head on the pillow at night, 221 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, yeah, that was a good day. So 222 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: I gave it some thought, you know, and I wrote 223 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: down those three things, and it felt good at the 224 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 3: end of the day. And the next day I did 225 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: the same thing, and then next day did the same thing. 226 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: And then a few weeks later I was like, this 227 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: is really working. This is adding up. I'm moving the needle. 228 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: I'm feeling in control. 229 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: I no longer feel like I'm just like being run 230 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: by this list or or bulldozed by this list. I 231 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 4: feel like I'm in control. And then the next time, 232 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I can add two more, 233 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna add two. 234 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: Little bonus moves on there. 235 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: So I did the things and then I got a 236 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 4: couple extras done, and then I added a signature move 237 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: where I was like, you know what, I need one 238 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: thing during the day that just feeds my soul, just 239 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: me like selfishly me, you know, like what. 240 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: Can I do? 241 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: And I added a little signature move and I do 242 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: that every single day as well, simple little things. 243 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 244 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: But I love this signature move though, too, because I 245 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: think on the list for me, I feel like it's 246 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: things I have to do or this should do, you know, 247 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: those things like that. So when you're adding the thing 248 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: that you want to do into that, it makes everything 249 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: else again. You're more motivated to go do all these 250 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: other things. Like I think we forget about ourselves and 251 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 1: we neglect ourselves until we go through the full breakdown. 252 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: So this is a good way to incorporate it into 253 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: your day to day life and. 254 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: Take the guilt away. 255 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: Like a lot of the times we're at the end 256 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: of the day, things are busy, you should be folding 257 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: the towels, yet you really want to just sit there 258 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 4: with a skincare mask on and like veg out for 259 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 4: a moment, and we tell ourselves that we can only 260 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: choose one or we have to do the right one. 261 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 4: And if you wrote that down on the list in 262 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: the morning, you're like, no, I committed to actually taking 263 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: this time for myself, and you actually do it and 264 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: there's no guilt. It's like, you know the other things 265 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: on the list. It's on the list, so you gotta 266 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: do it, you gotta do the thing. Yeah. 267 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of guilt, you talk a lot about mom guilt, 268 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about breaking free of mom guilt. 269 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: What does that actually look like in real life? Because 270 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: I think so often the guilt and the heaviness can 271 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: feel stronger than the motivation. So how do we break 272 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: free from things that we feel just like there's no 273 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: winning battles. I mean, there's no way to win that 274 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: battle to me, you know, like that's always kind of 275 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: a balancing act. 276 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I feel like we have to 277 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: lower the I don't want to say lower the bar, 278 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: but I think we have to release the expectations of 279 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: what we put on ourselves in terms of what is 280 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: real and what is not, Like you know, like, come on, 281 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: we're not going to be able to do all the things. 282 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: You're not going to be a superhero mom. You're not 283 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: going to be like room mom and at the same 284 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: time be like a badass CEO running a bit. You're 285 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: you will have moments that you wear both hats. You 286 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: will have moments where you are winning as a mother. 287 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: You will have moments that you're winning in your personal 288 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: life or career, and that will ebb and flow. And 289 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 4: I think when we start to zoom out, I always say, 290 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 4: like zoom out, that's a word I use often, like 291 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: zoom out. 292 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: Look at are you doing a good job this category? 293 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 294 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: Are you doing a great job in that kind of great? Great? 295 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: Then let's get rid of this mom guilt that we 296 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 4: are supposed to be perfectly balanced, because that's not a thing. 297 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: There's different seasons. 298 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 4: You're gonna go through seasons where you're like crushing it 299 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: as a mom. You're gonna go through seasons where you 300 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: were not. And that's okay. Because our intentions are there 301 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 4: to be great at everything. 302 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: We just don't always show up a great of everything. 303 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: And so for me, it's like, let's get rid of 304 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: those expectations. 305 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: And zoom out. 306 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: I think that's so smart. We had the former head 307 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: of NBC Universal, her name's Bonnie Hammer. She was on 308 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago and I said, how do you 309 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: how did you do work life balance, and like, how 310 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: did you figure out how to do that? She said, 311 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: I didn't. Like, that doesn't exist. We've got to stop 312 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: the narrative that that is some goal we're trying to 313 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: get to. It just doesn't exist. So similar to what 314 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: you're saying, you do the best you can every day 315 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: and zooming out and saying am I doing a good job? 316 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: Correct? 317 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: Is that if we don't do it perfect, that's the thing. 318 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: We expect perfection, And then we compare. We compare like, 319 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: oh my god, look at Susie and she's doing this 320 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: with their kids, or look at so and so and 321 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 4: she's building this with their business or writing the book 322 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: or whatever, and we have to stop and just look 323 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 4: at her own little bubble and then zoom out of 324 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: our bubble and go, are you doing a good job? 325 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: You're doing a good job. Are you giving it your intention? 326 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: Is your intention to do great? 327 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: It is? 328 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's not as going to add up and 329 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: then stop with the mom guilt like I travel. My 330 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 4: kids do not feel deprived. I miss certain things at school. 331 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 4: They do not feel unloved, like they just know mom 332 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: works hard and she has certain jobs and responsibilities outside 333 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: of being a mother that are required for me to do. 334 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: And when I show up for them, I show up 335 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 4: full out and they. 336 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: Know that too. 337 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: In some arguments, you could say too, that creating a 338 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: life for yourself that's more full than one piece, like 339 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm just a mother is showing is living by example 340 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: and teaching as well. So it's another version of being 341 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: a great mom in a way, because you're showing your 342 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: daughters all the things that are possibilities in this world. 343 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: You bet. 344 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: And I'm also showing them that although they are a 345 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: massive part of my world, right they're my world, they're 346 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: not the only world for. 347 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: Me, right like, because that's not realistic either. 348 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: Like they have to understand they are super special to me, 349 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: they're special in our world, but there are a lot 350 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: of special people in this world. We all have to 351 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: keep living our lives. And so yes, I think setting 352 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: that stage very early on so that they don't think 353 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: that the sun rises and sets with them, that they 354 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: understand the life keeps going, and they have to figure 355 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: out their role in it and how we all play 356 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: role in contributing to a dislife that we live. 357 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: Right. 358 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: They have to help me around the house, they have 359 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: to do their chores, they have to you know, do 360 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: things because we are a team and it takes a 361 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 4: team in order to you know, make things work well. 362 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: We mentioned that you were an answer back in the day. 363 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you've always kind of been in like movement practices, 364 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: so I love that your teens are actually simple though, 365 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: and you don't have to go to the gym. Can 366 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: you share with the listeners maybe just a quick five 367 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: minute reset that you're loving right now or your favorite 368 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: quick reset with your body? 369 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes. 370 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: So one of my favorite chapters in the book is 371 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: all about movement. And you know, I've been teaching fitness 372 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: for almost twenty years now, and the one thing that 373 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: I notice, and I know, the one thing that is 374 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: going to make you that person that feels good, that 375 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: moves their body every day, that gets results is showing up. 376 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: Okay, is just being consistent. 377 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: And in order to be consistent, you have to do 378 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: things that you a enjoy and be you're going to 379 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: stick with, right You can't like, do the latest trendy 380 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: workout because your girlfriend does it and she got great results, 381 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 4: but you absolutely hate it and your body feels terrible afterwards. 382 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: Right, So you have to. 383 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: Actually first identify what you like to do it feels 384 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: good on your body. Secondly, I like to remove the 385 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: barriers and excuses. I want you to just move your 386 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 4: body every day for ten minutes. That is my goal 387 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: for you, every single day, without fail, no excuses, unless 388 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: you are really sick, you are going to move your 389 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: body every day for ten minutes. So when I decided 390 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 4: to launch the book, I also filmed ten minute workouts 391 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: and if you buy the book, you get access to 392 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: the workouts for free. I was like, I'm going to 393 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: make this as easy as can possibly so people. 394 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: Can no excuse it, no excuses. 395 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: Because I know what's going to happen, Kelly, when people 396 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: actually show up every day for ten minutes for themselves 397 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: every day and they move their body. When you move 398 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: your body, you move your life. Okay, you move your body, 399 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 4: you move your life. You will feel obviously all the 400 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: physical benefits, right, the endorphins. You're going to feel stronger, 401 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: you have more energy, but your mind is going to 402 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 4: be clearer, You're going to feel good that you just 403 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: did something good for yourself. You're going to make healthier choices. 404 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: You're going to feel more capable to jump into a 405 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: challenging situation because you just did something that was. 406 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: A little bit hard and you got through it. 407 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 4: There are so many benefits that we know scientifically and 408 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 4: that we know mentally, and we know physically, and we 409 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 4: know just for our. 410 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: Own well being for working out. 411 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 4: So ten minutes every single day, and that's it. 412 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 3: These ten minute workouts, they deliver it. 413 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: Now, if for some reason, let's say ten minutes is 414 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 4: not enough for you and. 415 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: You need more, you can double up. You can do 416 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: whatever you want. 417 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: But I also sneak in throughout the day something I 418 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 4: call movement snacks. 419 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: And these are little. 420 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 4: Bite sized opportunities to move your body when you would 421 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 4: otherwise just be city and idol, like just just you know, 422 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: while I'm waiting for my milk for my macha to 423 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: cook in the microwave or on the stove or whatever 424 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: you're doing, I sit there and I do lunches right 425 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: when I'm brushing my teeth, I'm doing PLA's when I 426 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: am waiting for a commercial like the Girls, and I 427 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 4: will hold a plank like there are moments all day long, 428 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 4: but I sprinkle in a tiny, little one to two minutes, 429 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: maybe thirty seconds of movement, And I'm telling you, it 430 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: changes your whole way of thinking throughout the day. 431 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: It changes who you are. 432 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: You're the person that instead of standing there leaning on 433 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: the countertop scrolling Instagram, you're doing a lunch while you're 434 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: waiting for you know, the microwave. That's a big shift 435 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: in your life. That's a big change in trying to 436 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: be you know, move the needle in the right direction for. 437 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: How you want to live. 438 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's so much more realistic. I 439 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: know in my forties, when I was in my twenties, 440 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: I would work out all the time, but I had 441 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: all the time in the world, like it didn't have 442 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: the responsibilities right. Part of my job felt like being 443 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: hot in your twenties, you know, like you're just like 444 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: this is part of it. Then you get older and 445 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: you have more responsibilities either you have a family, you 446 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: have a job, and it's so difficult to maintain what 447 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: I used to without just completely stopping because like you said, 448 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: consistency is so much more important too, as we ate 449 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: so much important And that's that's been the harder thing 450 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: for me though, is because I don't have as much 451 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: time or energy, if I'm being honest, because so that's 452 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: the more responsibilities. 453 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's why I'm telling you. We did a challenge. 454 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: We did a six week challenge just we just finished 455 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: it up, wrapped it up a couple of weeks ago. 456 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: We have about one thousand people in our Facebook group 457 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: page right now, and it was unbelievable. People were like, 458 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm that woman that is working out 459 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 4: every single day. 460 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: I'm a world of by that person. 461 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: And you can easily do it because you're not jumping 462 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 4: in the car and going to the gym and having 463 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 4: to change. You can just do this in different jamas, 464 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: like it's right, there's no excuses. And when you say 465 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 4: to yourself ten minutes, right, you're like, Kelly, I can 466 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: do ten minutes, yes there is if I it almost 467 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 4: makes you like it's like the reverse. It's like if 468 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: you don't do it, like you don't. 469 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: Want to be that person that can't even and it's right. 470 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: So it kind of puts that pressure on you in 471 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: a good way to be like, come on, show up, 472 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: do this for yourself, and I'm telling you, within a 473 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: couple of weeks it is a game changer. 474 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably Also, I would say, you have to 475 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: shift the mentality of this instant gratification that we're so 476 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: used to because we don't know how to build things anymore. 477 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: And that's been a really interesting experience of aging for 478 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: me too, is that my body can't bounce back the 479 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: way it used to, and I don't want to hurt 480 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: myself either, so I have to be a little more 481 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: patient with processes now. And so this is but this 482 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: is a perfect way to do it because you're not 483 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: overdoing it every day and it feels attainable. 484 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: I love that you said that. 485 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: I think not only do we have to get more 486 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: comfortable with patients in each process, we also have to 487 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 4: get more comfortable with allowing ourselves to become beginners and 488 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 4: work towards mastery on something. And I say that because 489 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: we are so quick to have something new and shiny 490 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: and exciting in order to stimulate. 491 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: Right, like back in the day, what I would create 492 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: a workout video. 493 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: I did one video, one DVD, right like i'maging myself, 494 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 4: but one DVD and we would do it every day, 495 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: like you would press play on that one workout every 496 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: single day, and guess what, you got crazy sick results, right, 497 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: because you were able to master it and you got 498 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: better and better, and because you were better with your 499 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: form and technique, you were able to go deeper in 500 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 4: your range of motion and lift more and all these things. 501 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 4: And now I will launch a workout program with thirty 502 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 4: brand new workouts and my members will do all thirty 503 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 4: in a day at thirty and they're like, okay. 504 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: What's next to them? Like repeat? This could last you 505 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: a lifetime, summer, last you the rest of your life. 506 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: But we're so we're bored so quickly, right, we get 507 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: so bored. 508 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: And it's just it's a you know, it's because of 509 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: what we do every day and the scroll in and 510 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 4: the constant excitement that we get in the jolt of adrenaline. 511 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: And I'm saying, let's just pause for a moment and 512 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: become beginners and be comfortable with trying to master something. 513 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 4: Be comfortable with repetition, you know, be comfortable with it 514 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: and lean into it, lock into it, and see the 515 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: power of repetition. 516 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wondering if there's a tie because I know 517 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: you talk about perfectionism, and that's something I really related to. 518 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: Just I think anyone that's a high achieving person probably 519 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: relates to it a little bit. And so I'm wondering 520 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: if breaking things up like what you just described, does 521 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: that also help us kind of overcome some of our 522 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: perfectionistic tendencies in a way. 523 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 4: I believe so, and for me personally, yeah, very much so, 524 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: very much so. I think when you were able to 525 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 4: take bite sized moments and try to bite sized processes, 526 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 4: bite sized changes, bite sized habits, whatever it is that 527 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: you're focused on, if you can break it down a 528 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 4: little bit and get comfortable with the repetition and lean 529 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 4: into Okay, this is not going to be perfect right away. 530 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: This is not going to deliver those instant results that 531 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: I'm looking for, but that's okay. Yeah, and I'm going 532 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: to try and just be a beginner and let it 533 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 4: be sloppy and let it be messy and let me 534 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 4: a fool of myself and then get to the other 535 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: side with time and patience. 536 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: Okay. You also link procrastination to health, and I'm curious 537 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: what is that connection, because that I have never connected 538 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: the two or thought they were related in any way, 539 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: shape or form. 540 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting if you look at whether you yourself 541 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: are a procrastinator or let's say you have I think 542 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: we all know someone in our life, correct, right, we 543 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 4: all have someone in our life that were like, oh, 544 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: if they would only just do the thing, they would 545 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: stop complaining and they would start feeling better in all 546 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 4: areas of their life. I have a couple of friends 547 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 4: like that where I'm like, okay, enough talking and let's 548 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: start taking action. Enough you know, wishing, wanting and hoping, 549 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 4: and let's start moving. 550 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: Right, let's take that action. 551 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: And the individuals in my life that have been able 552 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: to recognize that, that have been able to go, yes, 553 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 4: I need to stop stalling and start moving and take action, 554 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: stop procrastinating, and just do the thing. It is incredible, 555 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: especially with their health wise, all the things that come 556 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 4: together in their life and they start to be just 557 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: a stronger, healthier version of themselves in everything in every way. Right. 558 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 4: And it's to me, and I've watched this happen firsthand 559 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: multiple times again and again. It is the most incredible 560 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: thing when you can recognize and have the self awareness 561 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: to say this is what. 562 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: Is holding me back. 563 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 4: This is what I need to change, and you can 564 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 4: become that person that you're not perfect. 565 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 3: In some areas of your life. 566 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: You might procrastinate, but overall you start to shift that needle, 567 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: you start to move forward, You start to take action 568 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: in your life. Look at how you feel every day. 569 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: Look at your mental health. How do you wake up 570 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: every day? 571 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? How do you go to 572 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 3: bed every night? Do you sleep better? You know? Are 573 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: you more energized during the day. 574 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: We don't realize how much procrastination plays a role on 575 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: our mental health, the anxiety that surrounds it. I mean, 576 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: just something little as if you are the type of 577 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: person that lets the boxes in the corner of your room, 578 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 4: the Amazon boxes, decks, deck, stacks, deck, and every day 579 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 4: you pass those boxes and you're like, oh, I gotta 580 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: go to ups or Oh I gotta go to return 581 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: those Amazon I gotta go next day, I gotta go 582 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: return those million things to do, Gotta go return those 583 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 4: Oh I'll do it tomorrow. And you just keep procrastinating 584 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: that little thing every time you pass them. There's a 585 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 4: jolt of like that little min anxiety, right you go 586 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 4: into that little fight or flight mode, you know, And 587 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: what we want to do is you want to shift that. 588 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: The second you take those boxes and you. 589 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: Do the thing that isn't that you do, you do 590 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 4: it and you're like, oh, you walk by that spot, 591 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: and now you have calm, you have rest, you're in 592 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 4: digest you're not in this like fight or flight mode. 593 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 4: And you don't even realize sometimes how much that adds 594 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 4: up every single day, the weight you carry from not 595 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 4: doing the little things. 596 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: It's so true. 597 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I literally, you know, for my job, I have to 598 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: do paperwork after and I hate it. 599 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: That is like I'm a creative. 600 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: I yes, the paperwork, the numbers, the whatever, and I'm 601 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: constantly putting it off, putting it off, even when it 602 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: is for me to get paid. Oh well wait till 603 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: the last minute. And my agent is always like, if 604 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: you would just do it, it would do away on you. 605 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: The second I sit down and do it, it is 606 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: like the biggest weight comes off my shoulders that I 607 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: didn't even. 608 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: Realize was there. 609 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: Just like you're saying, like you feel l my day 610 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: to day, yes, I feel completely light. And then just 611 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 1: like you're saying, I will go do a bunch of 612 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: other activities because all of a sudden, I have all 613 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: this energy. 614 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love that. 615 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 4: Okay, So, Kelly, So what I would say to you 616 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: is you have to create a non negotiable. So every 617 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: time you do your podcast, I would schedule a I 618 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: don't know how long it takes you, but let's say 619 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: it's thirty minutes, thirty minute afterwards, and you include that 620 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 4: so it's just. 621 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: Like you're here to the paperwork after just. 622 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: Like you're here talking to me. 623 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: It's non negotiable that directly after you fill that out, 624 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 4: it is that is your block half and that is 625 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: what you're going to do, and it's non negotiable, and 626 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: you will never discuss it again with yourself. 627 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is it? 628 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 3: Like, that is what you're doing. 629 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: Is I like, I don't schedule it. It's not on 630 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: a list anywhere, And I'm always like, oh, I gets it. 631 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: I'll get you know, but then I will I'll put 632 00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: it off until it has. 633 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: To and it weighs on you. 634 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Yes, it really really does. Okay, Well, I have to 635 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: talk to you about sleep because, as my listeners know, 636 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: I really struggle in that department and it's kind of 637 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: just been this ongoing thing my entire life. Tried basically everything, 638 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: but you give some sleep sleep hacks, and so I 639 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: have to talk about that with you. What are the 640 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: simplest ones that you think can make the biggest difference. 641 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 4: Yes, And I am sorry that you struggle with that 642 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 4: because I can relate. And now I'm at a point 643 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: in my life where, Kelly, everybody that knows me, specifically 644 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 4: my two daughters, I'm like, don't mess with my sleep. 645 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: Oh say you do? 646 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: Not, Like it's that is self limits. 647 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: Like, if it is going to mess with my sleep, 648 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 4: it is a no. It is all hard, hard, hell no, 649 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 4: because I know that how I need to function, and 650 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 4: I know what I want to feel like, I know 651 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 4: that if I don't get those hours in, it's not 652 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: a good thing for me. And at this point in 653 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 4: my life, anybody really anybody, but like you know, the 654 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: older you get, the more you realize, right, So so 655 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: for me it was interesting, you know, when I became 656 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 4: a mother, I realized how important routine was to sleep, right. 657 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: I crew, I was like one of those moms where 658 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this is this child is going to 659 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 4: sleep ten hours by the time she's three months old, 660 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 4: you know. And I was, you know, a stickler for 661 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: the routine, and I made sure that you know, this 662 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: is the routine that followed. We had the milk, and 663 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 4: then we had the best and then we had the 664 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 4: story time, and then we had the rocket and then 665 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: we went to bed. 666 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: And we didn't mess with that routine. 667 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 4: Right. I had flexibility, like you still have a flexibility. 668 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: But that was the routine. And then you look at 669 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: our routines. 670 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: What are they? 671 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: Oh, it's different every day. 672 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: We're gonna have a glass of wine, We're gonna go 673 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 4: out here. 674 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: You scroll and look at everything that gives us anxiety 675 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: right before we go to bed, and there is zero, 676 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: zero directions, zero stress. You're showing up for ourselves. There's 677 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: a routine. 678 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: And then we expect to just lull into this beautiful 679 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 4: slumber and have no thoughts that wake us up, and 680 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: then we have the most worst night of our lives 681 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: and it's like absolutely not. So my biggest thing is 682 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 4: my vice is I want you to show up for 683 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: your sleep, especially if it's someone if you're someone that 684 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: struggles with this, like you would prepare for the biggest. 685 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: Meeting of your life. 686 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, you want to show up as if you 687 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 4: are going into that meeting prepared. 688 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so for you it might be different. 689 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 4: I list a ton of different ways that you can 690 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: find that routine in the book. But you know, for me, 691 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: I take a bath every single night. I have a 692 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: red light little bed that I lay on, and I 693 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 4: and i'm i'm I let myself be bored. I don't 694 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 4: have the phone. I don't I mean, I watch TV, 695 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: but like my routine as I'm getting ready for bed, 696 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: no TV. I just have a certain thing that I do, 697 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: and I stretch every night and I breathe every night, 698 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: like that is non negotiable. I will not go to 699 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: bed without doing those things. And if I miss those things. 700 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: Like if I do, I definitely don't sleep as good. 701 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 4: I don't have the same night. I wake up in 702 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: the middle of the night with thoughts, you know, running 703 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: the world and running the show. And so I lean 704 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: into those principles, and I think everybody's routine might be 705 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 4: a little bit different. Again, I lay out a lot 706 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 4: of different strategies, but for me, the goal is to 707 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: find the routine that works for you and stick to 708 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 4: it and show up for it as you would the 709 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: most important meeting. 710 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: Of your life. 711 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: Such a good comparison to teaching a baby how to 712 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: sleep like hats hit, stay on a routine. And also 713 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: I love that you just said I let myself be bored. 714 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: I don't ever think that way. I never think you 715 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: need to just let yourself sit here and be bored. 716 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: This is the problem we know, So I just say 717 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: breakfast every This is something else I talk about in 718 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 4: the book. Every first meal of the day. I make 719 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: sure my phone is nowhere near me, Okay, nowhere near me. 720 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 4: I let my mind wander. I let myself be bored, 721 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: I let myself think. I mean that is where creativity 722 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: is born, is in these in between moments when we're 723 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: not constantly stimmylated or something in front of us. When 724 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: I go for a walk every day, I don't necessarily 725 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 4: listen to a podcast, I don't. 726 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: Put music in all ways. I let myself be bored. 727 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: I think, I look, I have ideas, And honestly, that's 728 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: where most of my best ideas have been to come 729 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: is during those moments of boredom. 730 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: Well you're moving and you're not distracting your mind with 731 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: something else. I just the second you said that, that 732 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: was the biggest epiphany for me, because I thought when 733 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: do I ever just allow myself to just be bored. 734 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: We're I constantly am filling my time, even if it's 735 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: just with scrolling or something. There's something happening, you know. 736 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: So the next time you go to pick up your phone, 737 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: and you really don't have to, like there's no need. 738 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: It's simply just a you know, a means to not 739 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: be bored it. Put it down and just sit with 740 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: the thoughts. Just sit, go for a walk. 741 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 3: Or just sit. Just sit and be bored for five 742 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: minutes and see what you think of. 743 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: Got I mean, we're back to that. That's the big epiphany, 744 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: is to just sit and be bored. But that is 745 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: because our culture does not do that. 746 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 4: We don't and I have that with my children. Well, 747 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: I constantly encourage that. You know, early on I heard 748 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 4: I read an article about lin Manuel Miranda, who is 749 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: the genius behind Hamilton right, and he credited his mother 750 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 4: and father for his He credited is youth for allowing 751 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: this creativity in him to grow because he said his 752 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: parents would work after school and him and his brother were, 753 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 4: you know, like like most kids like and I grew up, 754 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 4: we were just out in the yard. 755 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: Plane like go play. Yes, go play until dark. 756 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: Always outside, right, always outside. 757 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: Go play. 758 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 4: And so that's what he did, and that's what he 759 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: said that that lack of constant stimulation, that moment of 760 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: having to be bored and figure out what to do 761 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 4: with that downtime is what, you know, really helped him 762 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: to create this incredible creative mindset. And that is what 763 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 4: we're lacking, both with children but also also with adults, 764 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 4: because we'll tell our kids get off your phone, but 765 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 4: we don't get off. 766 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: Our friend right right. Oh my god, it's so true. 767 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you really blow my mind with that one. 768 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 4: I just bought a plate Kelly at this cute little 769 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: boutique in Dallas, and it's a play. 770 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: It's this beautiful play flowers on it. It says get off 771 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: your phone. 772 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: It's I mean, I need that in my mirrors everywhere. Yes, 773 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: it's just it's you know, it's so sad about it 774 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: to me is I don't even realize I'm doing it. 775 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: It is so like just a part of the motions 776 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: that I do. And actually I had a somatic therapist 777 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: tell me one time that that scrolling motion is a 778 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: way we're trying to calm our nervous system. 779 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 4: Yes, my friend wrote Somatic book for Dummies, Christina, She's amazing, 780 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 4: and yes, correct, it is. It is this like trying 781 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: to find the calm our brain is going yeah, and 782 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 4: we're trying. 783 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: To just like, but that's not the place to go calmer. 784 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 4: No, it is not, which is why we need That's 785 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 4: why we need this book. Yes, because we need to 786 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 4: learn how to like relax and release. And yes, if 787 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 4: that is your one takeaway that would be the most 788 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: powerful takeaway honestly, is the next time you go to 789 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: grab your phone or the next time you said that's 790 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 4: why I think the first meal of to day is 791 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: my my pillar for that. It's like, just give yourself 792 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 4: that moment. I don't care if you fasten, your first 793 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 4: meal of the day is at noon or if it's 794 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 4: at seven in the morning, whenever it is. 795 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: Put your phone away. Try to be bored. 796 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: Try to be bored, yeah, because your big thing is like, 797 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: we don't need to be doing more like this idea 798 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: that it's just like, oh, if I just do that 799 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: next big thing, that's how we're gonna find our piece. 800 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: And you're like no, no, no, no, no, Either be bored 801 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: or maybe try to integrate these small practices that are short. 802 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: So is there one thing to any woman listening? Obviously, 803 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: for me, the being bored is the big takeaway for 804 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: me today that I'm going to start applying. 805 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: But is there one that you. 806 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: Really love that you feel like people would see a 807 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: change instantly kind of or that would you know the 808 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: change that's motivating to them. 809 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 4: Yes, And it's something that we do every single day. Okay, 810 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 4: we are completely unaware of that. We have no idea 811 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 4: how powerful it is. And it's in our back pocket. 812 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 4: And that is intentional breathing. Intentional breathing. And I'm not 813 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 4: talking like sit down and you know, have a full 814 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 4: meditation series. I'm talking about quick thirty second to two 815 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: minute breathing series that is going to transform the way 816 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 4: your body and mind and mood feel. And it is 817 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 4: like that I did it as part of survival, truly. 818 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 4: Like I was holding onto a grocery cart walking down 819 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 4: the store, my knees rebuckling, my world was spinning. 820 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: I was like, how the hell did I get here? 821 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: In my life? I did everything right? How am I here? 822 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 4: And I remember just having this moment of like, breathe girl, 823 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 4: or you're going to faint? Yeah, And I just started 824 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 4: to breathe, and I continued to breathe. 825 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: I bought this smudge spray. I was smudging and breathing 826 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 3: and smudging and spreading. I thought I felt like an idiot, 827 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 3: but I didn't care. 828 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: Obviously, Yeah, you're just like whatever. 829 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: And it just worked. 830 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: And then I started doing more research on the power 831 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 4: of why why. It's it's scientifically proven to get your 832 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 4: body into a state of release, to come down from 833 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 4: that fight or flight, to get into the paris ofpathetic 834 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 4: system and to start to feel good again. 835 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: And it's so crazy because. 836 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 4: You don't need an app, you don't need to buy something, 837 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 4: you don't need to study learn all about It's not 838 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: going to take you years to become a master at it. 839 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 3: It's just like that. 840 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 4: You just start to learn it, apply it, and you 841 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 4: feel it immediately. It has changed my life, I mean 842 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: changed my life, and it is something I do every 843 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 4: single day with intention. 844 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: Quick the second you said breathe, I realized I was 845 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: holding my breath. Isn't that wild? When we just walk 846 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: around like shoulders raised. I kind of will find myself 847 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: throughout the day having to remind us of no, take 848 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: a deep breath because I just hold myself to so tight. 849 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: And I'm just moving, moving, move, movement, moving. You know, 850 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: you're not breathing, which is why. 851 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: You're not breathing. 852 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 4: And if you can learn how to breathe with intention, 853 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 4: you can really focus it on a longer exhalation and 854 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 4: getting that exhale out, releasing that carbon dioxide, getting into 855 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: that vegus nerve system, really focusing. 856 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 3: On how you can just reset. 857 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 4: I mean, if someone said to you, Kelly, here's a 858 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 4: pill that you can take this one, this pill, You 859 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 4: pop this pill and within two minutes you're gonna feel 860 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 4: completely different. If you're in like that state of anxiety, 861 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 4: you'd be like, right, no side effects, had. 862 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 3: No side Yeah. 863 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 4: But if someone said, oh, you have to actually intentionally breathe, 864 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 4: you'd be like, oh, that's so gimmicky, or that's gonna work, 865 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 4: or like whatever, you. 866 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: Know what I mean, But we'd be quick to take 867 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 3: that pill. 868 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 4: This is something that is you know, backed by science, 869 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 4: and it works, and it is an incredible tool that 870 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 4: we all have at our disposal. And once you become 871 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 4: somebody that does breath work, you never go back, Like 872 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 4: I send the car pool line, I do breathwork. If 873 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 4: I start to feel a cold coming on, I do breathwork. 874 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 4: Like if I start to feel anxiety coming on, I 875 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 4: do breathwork. I'm always trying to bring my body back 876 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: into that calm state and it truly, truly is transformative. 877 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: Can you speak to the cold piece a little bit, 878 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: because I've had an energy worker tell me that to 879 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: She says she doesn't really her or her child. The 880 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: second they start to feel congested or whatever, she'll do 881 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: a breathwork session with them. And I've always wondered why 882 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: that happens. But is our energy giving us the cold? 883 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: Like stuck energy giving us the cold? 884 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 4: Listen, there's no studies to back that up that I 885 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 4: have seen that I have seen, but a science behind 886 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 4: just the breathing on its own, regardless of what your 887 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 4: body is feeling in terms of a cold. When you 888 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 4: are functioning in this high state of energy, right, when 889 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 4: you're constantly in a state of anxiety, your body has 890 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 4: to work overload right just to maintain itself, just to 891 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 4: get through. When you can bring your body back down 892 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 4: to that calm parasympathetic nervous system state where you're not 893 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 4: you're not in that constant as I mentioned, fight or 894 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 4: flight mode. You're going to give your body what it 895 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 4: needs to function without it. 896 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: Okay, right, So that makes sense. 897 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 4: So I start when I start to feel a cold 898 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 4: coming on or I feel like, you know, the lymph 899 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: node starts to pad the little skull and wherever it is, 900 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, girl, I got to lean into the 901 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 4: breath because clearly I'm I'm going something's going on with 902 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 4: my body. 903 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 3: It's fighting some type of inflammation. 904 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 4: I need to kind of bring it down as much 905 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 4: as I can into that calm state. 906 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: And so for me, I have noticed. 907 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 4: And again this may be placebo effect. I don't know 908 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 4: what it is, but for me, it has been, like 909 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 4: I said, transformative. I will sit in the arm like 910 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 4: driving because to school two days ago, I'm like, oh, 911 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: I feel like I might begin in a cold, and 912 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 4: let's start to breathe, and I focus on my breathing 913 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 4: far more over those few days. 914 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 3: Now. 915 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 4: Does it always prevent a cold? No, But I feel 916 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 4: like it does make a difference. 917 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 3: I really do. 918 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that the way you just explain it 919 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: makes so much sense to me. So it's not that 920 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: the breath is like crying a cold. It's setting our 921 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: bodies up to be able to fight it off. I 922 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: feel like we forget how powerful and strong our bodies 923 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: are and how wired they are to heal themselves. 924 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 3: Correct. 925 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 4: So that's why you see again and again all these 926 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: studies coming out that says the number one thing that 927 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 4: you can. 928 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 3: Do for your health is exercise. Why right? Why? I 929 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 3: mean it's very simple, think about it. 930 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 4: The number one thing you can do to live a 931 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 4: longer life and a healthier life. Everybody will tell you 932 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 4: is to just move your body. Because we're meant to move, 933 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 4: We're meant to breathe and take full breaths. 934 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 3: We're not meant to live in this state of constant. 935 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 4: Rush of adrenaline anxiety, and you know, and that's how 936 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 4: we are. Like you set shoulders up, holding your breath 937 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 4: and you don't even realize it. And when you have 938 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 4: that realization, you just take a moment to become more 939 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 4: self aware. 940 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 3: You start to just release some of that. 941 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: You start to be the person that isn't holding their 942 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 4: shoulders and holding your breath. 943 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,479 Speaker 3: You're just able to kind of come into a different state. 944 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 3: It's still you, just a better version of you. 945 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 946 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: Well, the book, like we said, it's called Small Moves, 947 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: Big Life, Seven daily practices to supercharge your energy, productivity, 948 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: and happiness. As always, I'll put that in the description 949 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: of this podcast for you guys, Andrew, where else can 950 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: people find you? 951 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 2: Follow you, work with you? 952 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 4: Yes, A one, it's you, so on Instagram it's Andrea 953 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 4: Lee Rogers, l E I G h R O G 954 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 4: e R S. And then you can go to Small Moves, 955 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 4: Big life dot com. So there, if you purchase the book, 956 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 4: you can shoot me an email and all the information 957 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 4: is there and I'll send you a link to the 958 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 4: workout library as well as a stretching library as well. 959 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: Amazing. 960 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: Again, I'll put all of that in the description of 961 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: this podcast for you guys. 962 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I really enjoyed this conversation. 963 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 3: I love talking with you. That was great, Kelly, thank you.