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Speaker 1: We welcome you to the Official Titans Podcast, better known

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Speaker 1: as the OTP. My name is Mike Keith. As usual,

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Speaker 1: Amy Wells is here. Hello. How are you. I'm great?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing fine? Thank you? And look

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Speaker 1: at our visitor. It is the Titans offensive coordinator Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 1: Well thanks for having me on. How are you going great?

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Speaker 1: Is there anywhere you'd probably would rather be about anywhere

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Speaker 1: than doing this? No, it's fine. Sadly this will be

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Speaker 1: my second we're getting a becoming a regular on the

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Speaker 1: podcast podcast. Well, this is a little different than the

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Speaker 1: one that you did, you know a while back. That's

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Speaker 1: it's a little different. It's we don't we have a

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Speaker 1: nice studio. We don't have a bus. Yeah, definitely different environment.

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Speaker 1: It's a different environment. That would say that's accurate. But

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Speaker 1: the whole being interviewed process not your favorite thing in

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Speaker 1: the world. No, I don't dislike it. I just would

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Speaker 1: rather just do my job. And you know that the

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Speaker 1: players are one is out there playing. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: the ones that deserve the credit. I just that's just

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Speaker 1: who I what I believe that it's my lineman backer.

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Speaker 1: I was getting ready to say, is that you're inner

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Speaker 1: offensive because you're an offensive line minute in North Carolina? Correct,

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Speaker 1: is that your inner offensive linemen? Probably? Yeah? Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: don't just believe. I mean, the credit goes to the

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Speaker 1: players and the one's out there making plays, but within

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen, like the credit then goes to everybody else,

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Speaker 1: so it trickles down to players and then from them

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Speaker 1: it's too Oh the skill guys, Oh we just block out,

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Speaker 1: we just hang out. Yeah, a humble bunch. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: it's a great group of guys. I mean, offensive line

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Speaker 1: usually best guys one. But when you played where the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, some places the offensive line, there

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Speaker 1: are rules that if you get interviewed, you get fined.

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Speaker 1: If you say certain things, you get fined. If you

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you wear sleeves, you get fine. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's a tough group. Yeah, but that that kind

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Speaker 1: of makes up the whole ethos of the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Depends on where you go. But yeah, it's that that

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Speaker 1: that goes back to my background or just you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody's different, just but I prefer it that way. But

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman often make really good coaches and often make

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Speaker 1: really good play callers. We have seen that historically in

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Speaker 1: college and pros over the years. From a football standpoint,

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Speaker 1: why do you believe that having had the experience of

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Speaker 1: not only being head coaches but calling plays. Why does

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Speaker 1: that work so will Well? I mean, first off, I

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Speaker 1: goes back to when you're when you're in those positions,

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Speaker 1: and you know, everybody says it takes all eleven or

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Speaker 1: teamwork matters, but it truly matters at the offensive line

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Speaker 1: and your program at a young age that whether you're

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Speaker 1: at center, guard or tackle, that you're you're all working together.

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Speaker 1: And I think you see it from that perspective where

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a quarterback position, which a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: has something to do with it. Just where you're coming from,

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Speaker 1: where you're looking for and your background of working with

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Speaker 1: the other four guys on the offensive line, are you

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Speaker 1: getting used to seeing the offense with a wider lens

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Speaker 1: right now? As a coordinator as opposed to just being

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Speaker 1: a position coach. Sure, because I think if you're a

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Speaker 1: and sometimes and you don't want to be a position

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Speaker 1: make sure your guys are that the position you're working

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Speaker 1: tight ends. Like like I tell myself that sometimes it's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, it's their old habits are hard to

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Speaker 1: make these transitions that you have, there's a familiarity with work,

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Speaker 1: definitely it's a unique position. You've had the entirety of

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Speaker 1: fun every day. Is it vastly different than what you

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Speaker 1: you heard that? When Delaney Walker was here with us,

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Speaker 1: he said he expects to catch two hundred passes in

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Speaker 1: your offense. It's a great goal to set, but he

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Speaker 1: gotta be something. Delaney is a very unique football player.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got a different and everybody's story is unique,

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Speaker 1: but Delaney has had an unbelievable career and the whole

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Speaker 1: grew into the role, and that was what year eight

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Speaker 1: I can't recall a player who had been in the

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Speaker 1: And that's a credit to him. And then the opportunity,

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Speaker 1: versatile skill set. They have to do so many different

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Speaker 1: you're working with everybody now, but you have a lot

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Speaker 1: most working with players that are so versatile like that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were. It goes back to you're involved in everything,

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Speaker 1: and be in versatile players. It's the key to this

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Speaker 1: it to look in twenty nineteen. Well, I think that

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Speaker 1: I think that's the things involved, and you're focused on

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Speaker 1: day to day improvement and okay, and but part of

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Speaker 1: clear about all the coaches about what we're trying to accomplish,

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Speaker 1: what we want to look like, and then to build

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Speaker 1: same thing magically or just because I said these words

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Speaker 1: in front of the offense, we're going to look like

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Speaker 1: that week five. It's implementation of it and staying on

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Speaker 1: going to call games in terms of trying to prepare

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Speaker 1: yourself for the regular season opener in Cleveland? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just think it's part of the process. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: good news is, and I know this is a hot

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Speaker 1: topic between preseasons and what people's feelings are in preseason,

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Speaker 1: and it's a great opportunity to get good practice reps,

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Speaker 1: no different than a practice when we have certain periods

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Speaker 1: what we call it. It's just part of the process

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Speaker 1: and the step to it. When we going through practice,

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Speaker 1: specific ways that you can get some of that practice,

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Speaker 1: some of those reps when it comes to play calling

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Speaker 1: and figuring out kind of that rhythm for you. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: we've done it, and we did it, uh you know

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks in OTAs, and it definitely

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Speaker 1: who don't have the twenty hour rule. You can make

429
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 1: a lot of adjustments in the pro game within the game,

430
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 1: whereas in the college game it's hard to do. So

431
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 1: being ready to make those adjustments as the play caller,

432
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 1: is that one of the top challenges that you expect

433
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: to have. Yeah, And it's one of the challenges you

434
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: embrace and the things that you try to plan out

435
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 1: ahead of time. All Right, well, if here's if they're

436
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,959
Speaker 1: gonna do this, like what is our answer for this?

437
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 1: Like those are stuff you I've tried to put a

438
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 1: lot of thought on and will continue to put a

439
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: lot of thought in. It's not going to be just

440
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 1: how you know, here's the first three players of the game,

441
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: and that's it's going to be all game. We know that.

442
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: You know, you try to plan to have a good idea,

443
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: but you've got to be ready to come back with

444
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: an adjustment. And that's that'll be a fun challenge for

445
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: us as an offense. And definitely that's a great thing

446
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: about the NFL from week to week. That's the chess match,

447
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: Mike Key, I know that's the best part of I'm

448
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: aware of that. Yes, being able to we talked a

449
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: lot about this early early, but now that you've had

450
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: some time to really work with the guys and um

451
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: get your feet wet with some of them in your role,

452
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: is there something to the consistency thing that we've kind

453
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: of been talking about since you were hired. Well, it helps,

454
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: And you know, talked about this a couple of times,

455
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: and I don't want to sound like a broken record,

456
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: but it does help with the familiarity of just terms

457
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: and what you're calling things and you know how how

458
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: we're going to operate going into there's definitely a familiarity.

459
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 1: We've seen a couple of changes here and and some

460
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: have been more drasted than others. And definitely it just

461
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: helps you start focusing on the on the details of

462
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: route running, the actual blocks, and when guys aren't they're

463
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: trying to memorize certain calls, and hey, what are we

464
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 1: gonna call this? What are we calling this formation? What

465
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: do we call him? This combination? So that that definitely helps.

466
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 1: It helps you get started quicker in this bring do

467
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: you have to fight changing things and saying, oh, I

468
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 1: don't want to change too much. Yeah, but you know,

469
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: going back though, we were talking about the lockout earlier, right,

470
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: one of the one of the best things Jerry Great did.

471
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: We had called things a certain way in Washington, and

472
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: so you know about things go full circle. Jerry had

473
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Speaker 1: been here in the late nineties with Greg and and

474
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz and those guys, and then obviously Greg goes

475
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, Jerry goes to Buffalo. Schwartz is the head,

476
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: is the defensive coordinator, and that's things evolved from him

477
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: and then Chuck Cecil took over. So we come in

478
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: after that lockout year and we knew it was gonna

479
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: be shorts and change instead of just overhauling everything. We

480
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: knew what we want to call it. Here's how we

481
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: called it in Washington, here's what they were calling it.

482
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: Jerry kind of kept in the parameters. So what we

483
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: were gonna call cover two. It didn't matter whether we

484
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: were going to call it two. We're gonna call it gold.

485
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,239
Speaker 1: It didn't matter, like here's what we're here's what they

486
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: had called it. So we can speed up learning. Now,

487
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: there's some techniques we would have changed, and we tweaked

488
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: some of the fronts. We tweaked a lot of things,

489
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: but we did it within the parameters of not it

490
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 1: wasn't such a foreign language. They didn't walk in there

491
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: and be like, all right, well a new English and

492
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: Spanish and now all a sudden, you guys put a

493
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Speaker 1: bunch of Latin in front of me, So that there

494
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: was a lot of good lessons to be learned that

495
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 1: it helped me turn this transition as well. Interesting. Yeah,

496
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: And that's the hardest part with switching a coordinator, correct.

497
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's learning that coordinator's language and learning what

498
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: things are called. It's not necessarily new techniques or new skills.

499
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: It's learning the language of it. That's the first part.

500
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: And then there's always a way, like you know, you

501
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: go in there and people run similar concepts, so they

502
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: may teach it completely different. And that's the one thing

503
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: that you've always got to be careful for is guys

504
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: go there and the way this stuff's cover is like, well,

505
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: you know he didn't read it the way. Well, you

506
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: have no idea like what they're asking, like we could

507
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: we could sit here and how we teach it in

508
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: Tennessee maybe different what Jacksonville into your Houston US. So

509
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: even when you're watching film, like, you gotta pretty good

510
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: idea just so you know the concept, but they may

511
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: have tweaked something on it, So that'd be pretty arrogant

512
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: sit here and be like, oh he missed that read

513
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: I know exactly where that reach you go. And that

514
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: may not necessarily be the case. But it's like I said,

515
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: it's been it's been fun so far. I'm enjoying it.

516
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: It's a teaching staff. It's a staff of a lot

517
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: of guys of the same age. And then in your viewpoint,

518
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're a returning guy. Certainly, your two

519
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: offensive line coaches are back, your quarterback coaches back, you're

520
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: running back coaches back, your wide receiver coaches back. Sure,

521
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: it's gotta be huge. I was watching on the practice

522
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: field during one of the days and you were having

523
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: a detailed conversation with some of the coaches and it

524
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: was very enthusiastic, we're gonna do this, and they were

525
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: nodding in agreement, and it was like, okay, I mean

526
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: these guys have clearly worked together before. Sure, It's like

527
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: anything in any working relationship when you're whether you're in

528
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: your business or we're out there, the more you're with

529
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: somebody more familiar, it just makes things easier when you're

530
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: making adjustment. You understand exactly what you're talking about, and

531
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: a lot of that's on you. So you know during

532
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: a lot of these transitions, if you have a completely

533
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: new staff and nobody's worked together before, that definitely could

534
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: be a transition. Just like the players when you're trying

535
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: to change all these languages, and it goes back to this,

536
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: like I like some guys I think getting in and

537
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: they got an ego, they just want to change it

538
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: because they're saying, oh, this is my this this is

539
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: like get over yourself. Like it makes sense for the

540
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and what we want to be in twenty

541
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: nineteen in this offense, that's what we're gonna do. I

542
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: could care less what we called it, and like we'll

543
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: have a system and a rhyme and reason and it's

544
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: thought out. But to argue over something that really doesn't

545
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: matter what you want to want to call a certain route.

546
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: The players know it that way, and it makes sense

547
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: to what you're doing to call it that. You just

548
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: want to have more points in the Cleveland at four

549
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern time on September eighth, we're just trying to

550
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: win the game. Yeah, that's awesome. Do you feel like

551
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: we now have such a solid foundation on this football

552
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: team that we can really start to build the house

553
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: a little bit after last year? Yeah, you know, it's

554
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: there's answered two questions. It definitely helps. There is a

555
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: foundation that that coach Rabel set, but year to year

556
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: and sometimes week to week, things change so different. I

557
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: mean you go into last year and just look at

558
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: the tight end position and what we thought going in

559
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: and that's that thing change in in an instant after

560
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: the Miami game and then even late in the year,

561
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: I mean Michael Preuitt wasn't in training camp with as

562
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't on our roster, and he came in week

563
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: two he played a few snaps that week he got here,

564
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: and then his role evolved. You know, you just got

565
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: to be ready to adapt and to change. So just

566
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: know one that and he goes back to this, and

567
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: you see this in pro sports all the time. Just

568
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: because somebody had success the year before doesn't guarantee anything

569
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: the next year. And it's like, hey, this team should

570
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: be really good. Everybody's back where you really just got

571
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: to start over. But the foundation in terms of how

572
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: things are set up, knowing what the expectations are that helps.

573
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: But just knowing that year to year, I mean things

574
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: can be or week to week they can be drastically different.

575
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: This is so important to you. And as we've watched

576
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: your coach for eight years, we see that what you

577
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: put into it is so great. Your family is more important, though,

578
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: and what you put into them sure is a big deal.

579
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: How how have you worked so well to balance all

580
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: of that during your time as a coach and continue

581
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: to do so? Yeah, I mean, just like trying to

582
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: get better at coach, I'm trying to get better as

583
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: a husband and a father as well, you know. And

584
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: then we do spend a lot of time, like I said,

585
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: and then thick credit cas of my wife. You know,

586
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: like you have to you know, be interested in her

587
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: answer on that depending on what when it is. Yeah,

588
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: but but I mean clearly, I think your success in

589
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: that era is you prioritize it. We've always seen that

590
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: out of you. Yeah, you tried to sure and there's

591
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: certain things you know, like, all right, I want to

592
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: make sure my kids, you know, they see their dad.

593
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to it's a I'm balance, like,

594
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: this is extremely competitive. We're gonna spend a lot of time.

595
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: You got to make sure you have the right goes by.

596
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean this it's a credit to my wife.

597
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, you'd be hard to do this job if

598
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: you didn't have the right family structure at home, because

599
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: it can make it really difficult. She was excited for

600
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: you to be the offensive coordinator. I'm guessing sure. Yeah,

601
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: she's very exciting because when when you're doing a good

602
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: job with that, you're your significant other clearly has to

603
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: have the investment you do for it to be successful,

604
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: not only here but also at home. Right, Yeah, No,

605
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: I mean she's she's my toughest critic in a good way.

606
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: So what does she you think we should throw more

607
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: forty carries for Derrick Henry. She'll give me her opinion. Well,

608
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: Eddie George has said in here before that he thinks

609
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry how to get it like four hundred times,

610
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: like in Eddie George nineteen ninety nine season with four

611
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: hundred and three carrey s a lot of care. That's

612
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: a lot of care. Yeah, that was cool. They retired

613
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: ATI's numbers. But awesome. I mean for a guy who

614
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: grew up in this state and followed no, it's that's

615
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah. Yeah. And then a lot of times

616
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: you look up there and obviously having no work with

617
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: I haven't worked with Bruce and Munch. You know those

618
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: are guys I looked up at. I mean, everybody, if

619
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: you played off as the line, you know who Bruce

620
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Matthews was. But that's cool. I'm gonna I'm interesting to

621
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: see those names up there. Are they really? The jerseys

622
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: are retired, so absolutely, it's gonna be crazy. It's gonna

623
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: be a really good time. But we're also going to

624
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: beat the cult to that day. That'll work. Now, that'll work.

625
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm making no prediction. No gonna give me on record

626
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: making a prediction Okay, we don't expect you to, and

627
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: we we thank you for taking time with us to

628
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: kind of answer the questions that I know you've been

629
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: asked eighty four times because you're feeling is you want

630
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: to show people what you can do and then there's

631
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: something to talk about it. But you also understand why

632
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: people are so interested because this is a good football team.

633
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you're getting you're getting a good group of

634
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: guys here. It's yeah, it's it's it's an unbelievable opportunity.

635
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: And then call it back to that, I mean, not

636
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: to make more of than what it is. Like everybody's

637
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: got a job to do it and it's and it's awesome.

638
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: And it goes back to like I'm like, I know

639
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: what I signed up for sure, and you're in this

640
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: role and it's not to be some kind of curmudgeon

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Speaker 1: like thinking I'm you know, Popovich or somebody you know

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Speaker 1: they're gonna act that way. I don't think that one

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Speaker 1: one bit. I just you'd rather your work speak for yourself.

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Speaker 1: But understand that everybody's got a job to do. You

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Speaker 1: guys have a job to do. The media has a

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Speaker 1: job to do, and the part of the reason you

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Speaker 1: know you're allowed to do this and there's so much

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Speaker 1: excitement is because of the way it's covered and fans

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Speaker 1: want it, and you can't lose sight of that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're pretty much an entertainment business, we are, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so people it's you know, it's a it's a good thing,

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Speaker 1: and I guess in some ways a bad thing that

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Speaker 1: people are so invested in the NFL and in this

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Speaker 1: football team and the way people love football in this region,

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Speaker 1: which you certainly know, sure very well. We take we

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Speaker 1: take Friday, Saturdays and Saturday seriously around here. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: you gotta have the fans otherwise, you know, you're just

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Speaker 1: playing on a grass field and you know nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: You won't people care. You gotta love Popovich, though, don't.

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Speaker 1: I just don't want to think like I think, I

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Speaker 1: guess when I've gone with that, Like I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get this like narrative at all. Like I hate talking.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather not talk, if you know, to let the

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Speaker 1: work show. I guess I couldn't want to come off

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Speaker 1: as some kind of self promoter. But Pops is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's about a ton about him and I enjoy watching

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Speaker 1: the Spurs. Yeah, I think the way he's harassed Doris

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Speaker 1: Burke's over the years, and the way he used to

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Speaker 1: harass Craig Sager on the the endgame interviews. Having done

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00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: endgame interviews can go it can go way wrong, trust me,

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Speaker 1: especially if you Yeah, if you get one word wrong,

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Speaker 1: it can be an utter disaster. But I get the

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Speaker 1: impression that if you're part of Popovich's group with the Spurs,

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Speaker 1: you're part of really something special. He must be a

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Speaker 1: very special human being along with a teacher and a coach,

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Speaker 1: because those guys are so loyal to him with the

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Speaker 1: consistency they you know, and that's you know, sure, you

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Speaker 1: can need great players, there's no no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of guys that have You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to have great players and you're gonna but

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Speaker 1: it's when it all comes together. You've got really good

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Speaker 1: coach coaching with really good players, and he has a

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Speaker 1: culture and he's set it down there and clearly like

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Speaker 1: that's who he is, Like he's never taught to be

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Speaker 1: something that. But if somebody gets and that happens and

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Speaker 1: dons people get a job or like this or or

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Speaker 1: a head job and they think they gotta act a

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Speaker 1: certain way. It's just be yourself. But yeah, I've got

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Speaker 1: so much respect for them. I mean, look what Kawhi

690
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Speaker 1: Leonard like. It's like a it's like a running joke.

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Speaker 1: But he like, he's like a robot. Now. I saw

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Speaker 1: some video of him. It was like an interview I

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Speaker 1: think when he was in college, and it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy's really personal. Now you talk to him, it's

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Speaker 1: like it is like talking to a robot. But he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You watch those guys play and watch that game the

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Speaker 1: other night, and what those guys did and clutch situations

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Speaker 1: both team was awesome. It's good stuff. Arthur Smith, good stuff,

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Speaker 1: and we wish you and your family nothing but the best.

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Speaker 1: And h I think when we get back here to

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Speaker 1: work in just a few weeks, we can't wait to

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Speaker 1: watch training camp in the preseason and see how it

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Speaker 1: all unfolds. Yeah, it'll be it'll be fun and hopefully,

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Speaker 1: you know, we give the Vans something to cheer about. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: we'll be on that front for Arthur Smith and Amy Wells.

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