WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Bottom of the Roster?

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<v Speaker 1>The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys football clubs. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is win the August seventh, twenty nineteen, season fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number twenty two. Welcome to latest edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 1>We're live Moxnard, California. Cowboys are as you can see

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<v Speaker 1>behind us starting their walkthrough. It's a little early for

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<v Speaker 1>their walkthrough. They're doing something awesome. Yeah, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>the good stuff, which like Jason, Jason Garrett probably doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want us look him back there, but yeah, so don't look.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like they're meeting. Stop looking at their meeting

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<v Speaker 1>early to go over some finer points. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>give anything, I'd give anything to just be able to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to it. It's probably good stuff. But they have

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<v Speaker 1>they walk through this morning. They'll be back on the

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<v Speaker 1>field this afternoon for their normal practice at three thirty

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<v Speaker 1>out here Pacific time. For those of you that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the area. If you want to come out and

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the area, you only got a few more days.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a practice today and tomorrow. Tomorrow's practice actually is

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. I think it's gonna be at ten thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Yeah, And then there won't be another

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<v Speaker 1>practice until next Monday, and they'll have practice Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>another morning practice on Thursday, and then we're out. It

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<v Speaker 1>happens like that. One day it seems like it's never

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end, and then the next day than you're packing

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<v Speaker 1>up up. So we got a lot of things we

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<v Speaker 1>want to hit today. We're gonna talk about some injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>one big injury that happened yesterday for the Cowboys. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>also talk we'll play a little bit of game, a

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<v Speaker 1>little game called tell me More. I got some guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are under the radar kind of guys I keep

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<v Speaker 1>getting as I'm sure you guys, I get these messages

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, tell me something about this guy, this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've picked out a couple of names of guys

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<v Speaker 1>that we haven't really talked a lot about, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go around and let you guys give some scouting reports

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<v Speaker 1>on what you've seen from those guys throughout these practices

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<v Speaker 1>here in Oxnard. Before we get though to that, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk a little bit about a Deep Blue

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<v Speaker 1>special that we got coming out today. For those of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys that may not have seen it, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary will be launching to day at three pm

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<v Speaker 1>Central Time, that's one pm Pacific called Welcome to Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a documentary put together by Rob Phillips and

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Garrison and details Barry Switzer's time with the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really interesting story. As you may know from the

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Blue documentaries that we do. I think they're all

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good, but it just goes a little deeper, tells

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<v Speaker 1>you the deeper story from the guys who lived it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's gonna launch today, makes you check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't catch it live, you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it on demand later on our website, on our

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<v Speaker 1>mobile app, as well as on our Connected TV app

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<v Speaker 1>on rokup, Amazon Fire, and Apple TV. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>jump in. Let's jump first on these injuries. Catch us

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed on what's happening with injuries. Obviously, Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn goes out yesterday with a fractured hand. What if

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<v Speaker 1>we heard about that injury, he's gonna require surgery. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna be back in Dallas and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he'll probably be able to play for the

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<v Speaker 1>first game, but it'll be you know, wrapped up or

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<v Speaker 1>club or whatever. I mean. Those injuries typically it's a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could play maybe the next depending on

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<v Speaker 1>your position, maybe play the next week or two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think in this case, you'll probably be have

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<v Speaker 1>it where he can get out there and play just

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<v Speaker 1>another knock on the defensive end position. It's true in

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<v Speaker 1>the first game. I mean, as far as injuries that

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<v Speaker 1>require surgeries go, it's probably best case scenario. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing to Marco Murray did to his hand, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a doctor, but it's like the metatarsal. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not your fingers, it's down here. Had a gnarly scar

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<v Speaker 1>when he did that, but he didn't miss a game,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know it's a little bit different because you're

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<v Speaker 1>using your hands a little bit more to play defensive

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<v Speaker 1>end rapid and tape. I think, you know, I'm optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>he can be available for Week one in some form

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<v Speaker 1>or fashion, but you're right, DeMarcus Lawrence is still on PUP,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyron Crawford's still on PUP, Randy Gregory is m IA,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Quinn's basically done for the preseason, So more

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities for the young guys. YEP. Talk to me about

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Cooper. He has the heel injury. There were there

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<v Speaker 1>were thoughts that maybe he'd be back to practice yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>he was not. What are we hearing about his status?

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<v Speaker 1>Same as far as I'm aware, it's like we said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is Jason Garrett always says like we're hopeful

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<v Speaker 1>he's coming back, and I feel like when he says that,

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<v Speaker 1>that means he's not coming back yet. But it's it's precautionary. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what at this point too, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. Partly that's going on right now is

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for this game. You know, it's to actually

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<v Speaker 1>prepare to go out and play in a game situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I think he's gonna play this and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. That's why that way, there's no point. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was getting to. But but yeah, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that, you know, if it was just

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<v Speaker 1>practice and you're just going maybe so, but it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's get these other guys. Make sure they

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<v Speaker 1>know John V. Johnson's going to be this call this formation.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he know where to line up and where to go?

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think there's any rush to rushing back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's jump into a little blanket coverage. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of climent comments here. Uh U. Who

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<v Speaker 1>was it? Yes? I think it was yesterday that you

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<v Speaker 1>said you dreamt about a player and dreamt that they

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<v Speaker 1>cut Robert Quinn. I was like, so I had a

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<v Speaker 1>dream about a player last night. I know, But I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, you'd mentioned about a dream about Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn and then yesterday that happened to him. So who

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<v Speaker 1>did you have a dream about? Oh freaking kicker her.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a nightmare. It was we were on We

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<v Speaker 1>started the season. Yes, it was bad. We started the

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<v Speaker 1>season and he kept messing every single cake. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I was losing it. It was horrible. It was horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I get I can't even imagine what you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing in the breast box. Just like everyone like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, if he misses another kick, it sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I just I believe I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in those that you have, like certain dreams, like premonition

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And the fact that you mentioned Robert Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>and then that happened. He missed two kicks, yester. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep an eye on these dreams that we're having here,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe giving us something it's not fighting. Look, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's fair. I mean, it happens, all right. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think what kind of like weird stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>dream about it. I really don't want to know. I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't want to know. Let's do some blanket coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. I got a couple of comments here for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. You fell into blank comment number one, Both rushers,

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<v Speaker 1>both both pass rushers, Your best cornerback, your best offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 1>your best running back, your best wide receiver are all

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<v Speaker 1>missing right now. My level of concern with this many

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<v Speaker 1>top players out is Blake Dave none. I feel no

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<v Speaker 1>concern about any of that because it's all to quote

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<v Speaker 1>the joker, it's all part of the plan, like none

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<v Speaker 1>of I mean, Quinn Quinn sucks, but again his injury.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, I'm sorry, the Quinn injury sucks. Sometimes my

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<v Speaker 1>brain gets out of my mouth. The Quinn injury sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Quinn is good. But as far as like there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be an injury that requires somebody going back to Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>it just happens. And if that's what the injury is,

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<v Speaker 1>then they got off lucky, Like that's a good thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, so I'm not worried about him. I remain

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that Zeke Elliott is not gonna miss any Gamesmari

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper's got a bruised heel like that, he's fine. DeMarcus

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence and Byron again, yeah, like it's a little bit concerning,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've known about both of them since May, Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is part of their rehab plan. That's not some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of curveball. The only thing that really cancerns me

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<v Speaker 1>is that we still don't know if anything's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrone Crawford and in regard to NFL discipline. But other

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<v Speaker 1>than that, I feel fine. Nick level of concern is

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<v Speaker 1>uh none, And actually it's more of a positive thing

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<v Speaker 1>when you have players like this, because we've seen guys

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<v Speaker 1>carted off the field. We've seen Lucky Whitehead roll into

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando Scandrick out here and the season was over. That

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<v Speaker 1>stuff happened and all that, but you don't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to happen to your key players. And so if if

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<v Speaker 1>you can give me two to four week injuries, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>okay with. I'm okay with two to four weekend. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think it's maybe even better if they are at

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<v Speaker 1>the level where they don't need a ton of training

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<v Speaker 1>camp reps. Zack Martin is in that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about Quinn. He's a veteran, but Rush the pastor, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows how to do that here. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not as concerned with with some of those because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, like Dave said, they'll be back. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me all the excuses to rest my great players. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Vel concern is. I mean, yeah, I am

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit concerned. These guys are not, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. And this is why we were coming

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<v Speaker 1>into camp feeling pretty excited about this twenty nineteen Cowboys team.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, very young players, every whole new offense, if

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator Kellen Moore what he can do. You know, all

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<v Speaker 1>these exciting things happening, and yeah, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be disappointed. You know, when you get too excited, then

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<v Speaker 1>the disappointment hit like the low comes really low. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just concerned about being another year of disappointment because

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<v Speaker 1>of injuries, not necessarily because of the talent, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is a really good year with what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing with the defense, what Kellen Moore could possibly do offensively.

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<v Speaker 1>So for them to kind of mess up the season

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<v Speaker 1>because of injuries, then yeah, that's gonna be well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're really you're saying the same thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just taking it to another other level, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>we look at those guys that's saying that, be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna be carted off the field, Like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna have the what you're talking about these major injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's four or five more guys that probably won't

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<v Speaker 1>be having that. But yeah, I think like the little

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<v Speaker 1>things that spark up here and there, and obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are very being very precautionary with all these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But for example, sak Marion and he's back, Okay, question Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen in the season when he started playing?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just little things there. That's the biggest one part.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly that it's not just that one that one

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<v Speaker 1>concerns me a little bit. But then too, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys have to, we've seen these scenarios where

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<v Speaker 1>you hear from the team, Oh, it's it's fine, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be fine, they'll be here for the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. I just don't until I see it, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>with those two guys that haven't practiced yet in Byron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones and Tank, I'm not I'm not totally secure in

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that that's gonna be where it needs to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And then obviously the Zeke thing is a big question mark.

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<v Speaker 1>We just don't know what's gonna happen that. So you

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<v Speaker 1>look at all those and that that means if you

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<v Speaker 1>just want to isolate those four, you're talking about your

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<v Speaker 1>best cornerback, your best pass rusher, you're probably your best

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<v Speaker 1>player overalls as your best running back and your best

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman. And they've got in my mind questions that

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<v Speaker 1>I think are legitimate going into the season. They do

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<v Speaker 1>the Byron, Byron and DeMarcus, like I said, is like

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<v Speaker 1>I've already processed all of that, you know, like we

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<v Speaker 1>came into camp. That is not a new development, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it is what it is. I haven't seen anything

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<v Speaker 1>to suggest that they are not on the path that

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to be on. So for the time being,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take it as I expect to see both of

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<v Speaker 1>them at practice at the Ford Center. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see it, and I kind of hope, so I'm hoping.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just there's something in back of my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're that way, if we didn't have these

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<v Speaker 1>other injuries, maybe i'd be a little more secure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But when then when you start adding in Zack's got

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<v Speaker 1>it back and Zeke's not here because he's holding out

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<v Speaker 1>for a contract, That's when I start getting even more,

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit more concerned about it. It's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm crazy, like I didn't other than the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about it for our jobs. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't spend any time worrying about the Zeke stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the other day, somebody asked me how camp was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I was like, pretty drama free year, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like things considered. They were like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about, like the running backs not. I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that that's gonna be fine, Like that'll work. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually funny. When you talk to people back home,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh my god, what's going on with Zeke? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like, we've been out here every day. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't even think about it on a day to day.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the show. All right, all right, here's a

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<v Speaker 1>second comment I have for you, guys. Injuries create opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>As Jason Garrett always says, Blank gets the greatest opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>from the Quinn injury. Nick, Joe Jackson, Joe guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's drafted. He's supposed to come in here and play, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get some reps, and they're gonna give him

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunities to do that. You know. Um, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys I don't want to mention, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because they all could have different names, So I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say that when there are others, but I'll say Joe Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>Amber I think at the defensive end position. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that I'm excited about is Armstrong. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see how he takes an opportunity and shows you

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<v Speaker 1>even more. He's been showing splashes out here and that's great. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Another guy's Taco, who has started doing certain things for

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<v Speaker 1>you where yeah, it's not to the level because of

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<v Speaker 1>the expectations, first round pick, blah blah blah. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to do certain things and that's exciting, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>because that now or never, you got to turn it

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<v Speaker 1>on now. So but main guy Dorn's You mentioned Doran's

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<v Speaker 1>armstrong yesterday in the compete period, that's a period of

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<v Speaker 1>practice where Cowboys, they come up as a team, Jason

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<v Speaker 1>will call out two guys that he wants to match

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<v Speaker 1>up one on one and in front of the whole team,

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<v Speaker 1>they got to compete, and Doran's armstrong yesterday called him

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<v Speaker 1>up with Lyle Collins against Lyle Collins. First time he

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<v Speaker 1>beat Lyle. The next two times Lyle got him. But

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<v Speaker 1>what was interesting to me is the fact that Jason

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<v Speaker 1>hauled him up to go against Lyle in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the whole team. That suggests to me, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, it suggests to me that the coaches are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing something they really like it, Doran's armstrong, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to see if he's ready to take that next

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<v Speaker 1>step to now be up there with the starters. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably gonna get some opportunities now with Robert Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>and with a tank out. Quinn's injury. Right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>who's you're guy? The guy that nobody else wants to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about? Carrie Hyderah, that's another one other than Tank.

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<v Speaker 1>He really is the only guy on this you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as talented as it is, he's the only guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>really put together like this impressive sack total season eight

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<v Speaker 1>with Detroit two years ago. M Dorence has been great.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody should be hyped about what we've seen from Doran's

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<v Speaker 1>armstrong in this camp. Taco is getting some work and

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<v Speaker 1>actually did some nice things yesterday he beat Tyron Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and he got a sack in team period. But Hyder

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<v Speaker 1>has been working on that right side, which is where

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<v Speaker 1>Coin has been, so I would assume that means more

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<v Speaker 1>reps for him. Absolutely. I just think people sleep on

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<v Speaker 1>him as a veteran who has done it and who

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<v Speaker 1>I like his odds to be on the team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love what they've got as far as

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<v Speaker 1>depth on this pretty crazy. It's crazy how much talent

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<v Speaker 1>they've been able to amass on that defensive line. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>some names. I'm gonna throw out to you guys, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell me what you've seen from them out here

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<v Speaker 1>in Oxnard, California. Cowboys practice will be taking place Sackton

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<v Speaker 1>at three thirty pm. At three o'clock PM, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that's three thirty pm Pacific. At one o'clock Pacific, though,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be releasing our new documentary, Welcome to Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes you you check that out. I think you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have all seen it, right, I haven't. Nick, you've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen, you know, the first thirty minutes, but then

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<v Speaker 1>there were some edits and stuff. Though I haven't really

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<v Speaker 1>seen all of it. I know I watched it while

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<v Speaker 1>I was on vacation and it was I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was really well done. So I'm looking forward to you

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<v Speaker 1>guys all seeing it and being able to give us

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<v Speaker 1>some feedback. We got some others coming up too, I

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<v Speaker 1>know Nick has one I'm really excited about seeing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the final one we do the summer

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<v Speaker 1>called The Late Hit about Roy Williams to safety really

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<v Speaker 1>really good topic. Nick's been selling me on this for

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<v Speaker 1>like three years and then finally like, yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm telling you, I'm telling you that the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about that is and which is interesting because there's if

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<v Speaker 1>I if you were to say, what's the one player

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<v Speaker 1>over the twenty years of me being here that I've

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<v Speaker 1>had some kind of issues with, I would say it

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<v Speaker 1>would be Roy Williams. And so yet we've done this

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<v Speaker 1>and there's not been one person that has been more

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<v Speaker 1>commentating through the entire process of Deep Blues than Roy Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been outstanding. So I'm really excited about how it's

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<v Speaker 1>all gonna work together. It seems like you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of developed a little friendship over this. It was

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<v Speaker 1>never anything big anyways. It just kind of was, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't He was one of those guys. And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the players are this way too. They they

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<v Speaker 1>just don't really understand what are we doing. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>we wearing this and still saying that they suck? And

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<v Speaker 1>you're on You're on the same We're in the Cowboys Star. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the charters and on the buses, specifically on

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<v Speaker 1>the buses, um where it's just like what what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? And then you guys just said that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't playing that well right, well you weren't, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's one of those things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like a family. It's like, you know, your mom's

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to say that you're you're not doing very good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a fun line to walk every day.

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<v Speaker 1>But the interesting part is in and what this happens.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot I found in my years, the guys didn't

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<v Speaker 1>retire and then they see you and they're like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, And it's all of a sudden, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>all's forgotten. It's all good now. Now I'm not having

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with that anymore. It's all good now. Especially

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<v Speaker 1>half of them are trying to break into the media,

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<v Speaker 1>and well that also helps, right, it also helps all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's play a little game here. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>game called tell me More. Um, I've been hit getting

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<v Speaker 1>some some tweets about just different names of guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are I would say not really well, one or two

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<v Speaker 1>of them are are kind of ti blind guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're just guys. We haven't mentioned a lot. We talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of different names on the show. These

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<v Speaker 1>are guys we haven't mentioned a lot. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go around. I want you guys to tell me what

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen from these guys, and let's give people kind

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<v Speaker 1>of him an update on on a few lesser known

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<v Speaker 1>players or players that are not talked about as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with running back Jordan Chun. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys hearing? Hearing, hearing and seeing? Yeah, seeing that he

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<v Speaker 1>is actually um getting he's getting a lot more reps.

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<v Speaker 1>But he seems like a guy that like he's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest of the backs. And because of the number, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's a he's a bulky guy. Yeah he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>not forty six can make you look really good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt about that. But but he's two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's two twenty two thirty, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's physical and he kind of he finishes runs like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's made a big jump I think from year

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<v Speaker 1>one to year two, all in the practice squad last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, Like I said the other day, I think

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<v Speaker 1>jamay Zola Walley was supposed to be a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a fallback plan to be a isolated runner in those situations,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Chun is getting those reps and he's

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<v Speaker 1>looked good doing them too. Physical It is that a

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<v Speaker 1>guy you think at this point has an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe make the steam. Ever, well, I know he's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that has been mentioned by Will McClay, Stephen Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>They they've mentioned his name. And when you got this

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<v Speaker 1>group of guys and other guys that were drafted, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the fact that you're being mentioned by those people

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<v Speaker 1>means something because you tend to get lost in the group.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, yes, he's been taking advantage of his

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities out here. But what are your no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>keep going. I'm sorry. I was gonna, I was gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna compare him to a Hall of Famer. Actually, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what do you know what Terrell Davis

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<v Speaker 1>is like? Breakout moment was his career. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>special teams player I don't remember exactly, runs down and

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<v Speaker 1>just blasted some guy. That's what he's gonna have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He's built like a linebacker. Go down there and show

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<v Speaker 1>you can contribute on that. Then you'll get opportunities to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the game and maybe run and all that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. There's a good opportunity for him to

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<v Speaker 1>actually go down to be like a special teams linebacker. Okay,

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>it's just hard. It's hard for me to envision that,

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.880
<v Speaker 1>like on a team, like if we assume Ezekiel Elliott

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.440
<v Speaker 1>will be here, how do you make the team? It's hard.

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to be special teams like Nicks is right,

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 1>even so I think I think Alfred Morris is the

0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 1>wrench in that plan. Like and and you know they

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 1>don't they're not tied to him like they have to

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 1>keep him. But talking about a two time pro bowler

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>guy who's been here for a couple of years, he

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.280
<v Speaker 1>is the only one on this team with Zeke not here,

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>who has any kind of extensive experience playing in the NFL.

0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think if they're just gonna be a backup,

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:52.840
<v Speaker 1>as in, like you know, your main back, if Zeke

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>isn't there, whether it's injury or hold out or whatever,

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I lean toward Alfred Morris um and so he's gonna

0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>have to be a lot better. It does. It is

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 1>worth mentioning like Alfred Morris isn't a big special teams guy.

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>So if if Chun or Webber can do a ton

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.120
<v Speaker 1>on special teams. In addition to that, I guess it's possible,

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>but I keep going back the day they drafted Pollard

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and Webber. Stephen Jones was like, yeah, you know, be

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>tough for Webber or any of those other guys to

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.159
<v Speaker 1>even get a jersey because Pollard can do this and

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>we've got Jama's who can do that. I was like, wow,

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>thanks for telling me you your breakdown for participation here

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>in May. Stephen, So thinking about that, knowing how they

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 1>want to use that, it's hard for me to imagine

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 1>how any of those guys really like the guy that

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>brings Zeke to the you know, like if he was

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Zeka to sign or you know, come to camp. I

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>think the guy that drives him. Here's the guy that's

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>driving Alfred Morris back to La X. Yeah. No, and

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:53.159
<v Speaker 1>that's what I think. That's it's you shouldn't assume. You

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.440
<v Speaker 1>should not assume Alfred Morris is gonna make this team.

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think we said it already and you can

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of hear the whispers like it left an impact

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>on them, what C. J. Anderson did to them in

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, and I you know, I think they see

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Alfred Morris in a similar vein. I will also say this,

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and you can take it as just kind of lip service,

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>but Jerry Jerry mentioned the fact that last year they

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 1>were they were a little bit um, not dismayed, but

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.440
<v Speaker 1>they weren't very happy with the fact that they lost

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>out on resigning him last year and he ended up

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 1>with the forty nine ers. They see him as a

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>guy that can be a nice number two, a nice

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>backup in the adventure guy gets hurt, So at least

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>from at least from no I get it, but at

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.199
<v Speaker 1>least from what And honestly, I think they always had

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 1>plans that they were going to bring him in. I

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>think it got to a point where he was gonna

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>go down there. I signed with New Orleans and they

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, we can't, we gotta wait, we can't

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>wait on this, and they got scared, right and I

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>think they figured in camp, let's give these young guys

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>more of an opportunity. But they didn't want to lose

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 1>him and that forced their hand. That also says to

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>me they really wanted him on the team. Never rule

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>out anything, but I think the deck is stacked against

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Darius Chun and Webber just in terms of like, how

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>do you justify it this roster. I actually think coming

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 1>into camp I was thinking Darius had a good shot.

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's probably the guy that think has one

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>of the worst shots, because when you really think about it,

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>like if if you're thinking Alfred Morris is going to

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>be your primary backup, obviously Paula plays the role that

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>he does, then you probably think, hey, if we like

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>what we're seeing from Chun and we like what we're

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 1>seeing from Webb, we keep one of those guys as

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a younger back, it kind of pushes Darius out of

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the door. So I think he's the one that, to me,

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>is in the most precarious situation. Wos Alfred done so

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 1>far here? Really not a lot? A lot? But that's

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>because I have to no, No, I get it, I

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>get it. Yes, he's been here before or two years

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's shown all that. But I guess my expectations

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>with him coming back in that we would be talking

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>a little more about him, and you know, and I

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know here what say we're talking about the other guys,

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.639
<v Speaker 1>but let's this is a thing, and you know, the

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>NFL being a meritocracy, It's true but there's a lot

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>of myth in that too. And if you look at

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>what Alfred Morris is doing, they're slowly ramping him up

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.199
<v Speaker 1>and eat him in because they know he doesn't. They

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 1>don't need to do that to him because they're like,

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>we got we got him, like we can preserve him.

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Won him on week, seeing him in the preseason, we'll

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 1>see him. Yeah, I definitely think he's gonna play at

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>some point. I think so. Yeah, All right, wide receiver

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Jalen guyton Nick, what do you see from him? Um,

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>he has flashed a few things every now and again.

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I this isn't really fair because I kind of was

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>told yesterday that he is not. I was told yesterday

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 1>that when we did our receiver rankings, uh, and we

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>put him eight out of eleven, and I was told

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>he was closer to eleven. So you know somebody that

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>knows more than me about it and has watched him more,

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 1>so I just thought, I just thought, well, I thought,

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you know that it's a guy they liked. So we didn't.

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 1>And again though we didn't rank them based off of

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing out here, because Noah Brown ranked is

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 1>ranked fifth. We we ranked them a baseball where they

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.239
<v Speaker 1>are so if and I still like it because if

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>he goes out Guidon has a fifty two yard touchdown

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>catch in the third quarter, we're gonna be talking about

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>him and he dumps right back into the mix. So

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I you know, he hasn't been as good as some

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of the others, but um, they like him. And he's

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>a big guy that can run. So if I had to,

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>if my life was on the line and I needed

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody to run a go route and score a touchdown

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>for me, he'd be among the guys out here. He'd

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>be pretty close to the top of my list, maybe

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>even the top. He's his speed is no joke, but

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>he just doesn't look very polished. Usually when I watched

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the receivers, Sanjay Law is usually yelling at him about something,

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>so very I think classic for an undrafted free agent

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>rookie receiver. Like a lot of talent, not a lot

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>of polish, you know, practice practice squad for him. Yeah,

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he's Yes, he's a fast guy, but all

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>these others speedy. But he's a guy I definitely to

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>be on as I haven't seen him much, like I

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>don't notice too much from him. I noticed him because

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's Terence Terence, but even then I actually

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's Terry Glenn. That's gonna take you back. But

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what I keep thinking when I see him, because

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>he kind of has that kind of build me anyway

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the way he looks when he's out there, but anyway

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>ahead he catches the ball forty yards downfield like once

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>per practice. But that's like all he does. Right, Yeah,

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess I miss it every time because I don't

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>really see him much. All right, let's go on tight

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>end Blake Jarwin. Sorry, I just thought of something I

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>said Terry Glenn. I was thinking about our list that

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 1>we're working on with the tom Player. Yeah, we have

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Kelvin Martin at number eighty three. Oh, we're definitely gonna read.

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>But by the way, David actually helped us with settle

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>a debate yesterday. We were we're working on a project here.

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>We could do a whole show on that. We really could,

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and actually we will. We're actually I'm waiting for you

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>guys to finish the thing and put it together and

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>then we will do it really good. He said. We

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>should be filming this. It was Mickey and Brian. Micky

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and Brian we're gonna each other any different players daily occur,

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>but Dave, Dave went to the you know sometimes, like

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>in Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, you have to

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>just pull the audience to help, you know, And twenty

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>one it was like, who's the best twenty one in

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys history? And I mean I was kind of wondering

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>why this was even a debate, But the fans came

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>in and one in a landslade, and I was like,

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, why are you guys even arguing this?

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Sanders at best cornerback in the history of the NFL,

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you had him on your team. We're going we're going

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>off the rails here, But there's just a subsect of

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys fans who like, don't think you counted unless you

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>played fifteen years here? Right, he was, he was. Anyway,

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll say that it's gonna be. It's fun and it's

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>really been a great, you know, project that we were

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>working on. So I don't know when we're gonna roll

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it out pretty soon here, all right? Tight end? Blake

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Jarlin thought you said I thought you said Dalton Schultz

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>in the pre production meeting, I did, I say? Both? Okay? Cool,

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>because I actually sent you. I showed you the list

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.959
<v Speaker 1>I saw Dalton I want to talk about and it's

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, if you want to just

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about both of them together, you can't. But I

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>had both of them. I guess the reason I even

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>say it, I just Jarwin has been a pretty steady

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>talking point here. Uh he's I think, so I mean that,

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and I can hit them both in. One thing is that,

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think a lot of people lump them

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>together because they're both young there, they kind of came

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>in at the same time. They have similar builds and

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>all that, they're both they're both white, thank you, nick Um.

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's not I don't view it as a

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>competition really into like, it's they're both making the team. Well,

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>they're both making the team. And Jarwin is just very

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>clearly to me a step or two or three above Schultz,

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>just in terms of his all around game. He is

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>always Witten's ahead of him, but he is always the

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>first guy in when they do twelve personnel. He gets

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>more run with the first team when Witten takes his

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>VET day. Jarwin's the one um he looks, he looks athletic.

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>He had a really nice touchdown catch from that. I

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>am so excited at the amount of stuff they are

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>doing in the seams. I feel like that has been

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>something that has been lacking from the Cowboys offense forever,

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and Jarwin's doing it, Randall Cobb's doing it. Um. So

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>he looks really good. Schultz. Ironically, me and Brian were

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>talking yesterday about how like he needs to develop as

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>a receiver, and then he went out and caught a

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>touchdown past in seven on seven two. Um. He looks

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>bigger and stronger, he looks a little more well rounded.

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>But I just think the pecking order is pretty firmly

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>established that he's three. Have you guys noticed anything with

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>regards to those two guys and their their abilities to block,

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>because that was probably the biggest knock on the on

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the tight end as a group last year. Have you

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>seen anything from them that suggested maybe they've improved in

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>that area. Well, I mean it's really tough to see that.

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>There's just a couple of goal line periods and all that,

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>but uh, you know the fact that they were they

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>were out there in the goal line. I think I

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>think we're going to see thirteen personnel quite a bit.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll love it. But they love it. They

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>love it, and so it loved that half a year.

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>If that happens, then then obviously they'll have the confidence

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that they can they can be blocked. Sucking. But I

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I think Schultz is very similar to

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>me as as a Jeff Swain, a guy that had

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>a first year he kind of got a little better, better, better,

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and then by the you know, a third or fourth year,

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be and he's supposed to be better

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>than that. He's a fourth round pick, you know, from Stanford,

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>so you should be able to pick it up quickly. Yeah,

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>he looks better. I don't know what that means. I

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know what his role is going to be. I

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>hope to god they don't run a lot of thirteen personnel,

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>but he does. I know what they do. You're right,

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I just that's I really because like jar, I mean,

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>they're tight ends. They're big guys, but they're not like

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, they're not massive, bulky dudes. I hope

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I hope Kellamore embraces the tight end as more of

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<v Speaker 1>a receiving threat than a blocking one. But yeah, it

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>might be wishful thinking. I'm excited about Blake if you

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>care to know, he's about to move on. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I see you there. No, But you know, starting from

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<v Speaker 1>last year actually when Swain went out with the injury

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<v Speaker 1>and then they start given Blademore opportunities, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>started to see his growth. Even by the end of

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<v Speaker 1>what was the last game where he actually shined the

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<v Speaker 1>law where he was getting so many completions with Dak,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw that growth. And to me, every time you

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<v Speaker 1>see growth, that's exciting. So going into this year, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he has taken advantage of that and really keeps

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<v Speaker 1>showing it in camp. So I feel good about that

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>position with him there now. As far as making flashy

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<v Speaker 1>place all the time, I don't think that's necessarily gonna

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.800
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0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>think you can at least rely on on certain situations.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we're gonna take our final break. When we

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<v Speaker 1>lineman that we've talked at least about here during training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>Today Back to the Break, Welcome back. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>final segment of the Break from Hawksnard, California. We're talking

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>about players that you haven't heard a lot about on

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>this show throughout training campus game called taught te Tell

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Me More. We've gone through an extensive list so far.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk next about Lyle Collins. Shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>the Draft Show real quick, because all my Draft Show

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<v Speaker 1>people know. Tell me more is our segment. Buzz. Yeah,

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. It's not a super original idea. I didn't,

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't yours, It is not yours. Absolutely all right.

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's go a Lyle Collins talk to me about the

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>uh the offensive tackle. What has he been doing out here? Um? Yeah,

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be by door in Starmstrong yesterday and he

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 1>came back in one the other two battles, I didn't

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>know that until you said it on the show because

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of getting blocked by the whole team,

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't see that that rep. But he won

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>impressively those other two times. It was kind Oh, is

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that what we're doing? Okay? I think Lyle Collins is

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>victimized by the talent that he is surrounded by, because Columbo,

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that's who he is. Although people forget he would have

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.399
<v Speaker 1>been a first round pick. Oh, no doubt, no doubt,

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>forget that, I think, but I think been a bust.

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Not a bust, no chance, no way. It wouldn't been disappointment. Probably.

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think a disappointment. I think he would have

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>been if he had been a top ten pick his

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>career to this point, you would probably consider him a disappointment. Really,

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been to a Pro Bowl, and I mean,

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the standard around here. Offensive line. No,

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can't take them all. I mean there's

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 1>something to be said for having the name Cache as

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a first round pick. I mean, yeah, that probably matters.

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to call Lyle Collins a disappointment. My

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 1>point is Lyle Collins shares a line with two guys

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.879
<v Speaker 1>who will have good cases to make the Hall of Fame. Yes,

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and we have we have one that I think is

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>probably already close to being in Zach. Yeah. I mean

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>just five years and three gending on what Frederick does.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. You know, we've been I've been watching from

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the time I got here. Tyrn Smith looked terrible the

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>first time I got here because DeMarcus Ware just abused

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 1>him for a summer, and ever since then it's just

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.439
<v Speaker 1>been effortless dominance. So, like, my idea of a left

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>tackle is just this athletic super freak who it is

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 1>amazing when he gets beaten. So when you compare Lyell

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to that, you're like, oh, he's not that good. In reality,

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 1>he's pretty damn good. He's just he's probably not gonna

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>make it to the Hall of Fame. That's just is

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>what it is. But he is a he's a solid starter,

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.800
<v Speaker 1>he gets beaten, he's he's definitely not perfect um, but

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.240
<v Speaker 1>he is above average. I mean, most teams in the NFL,

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>other than like the Eagles and the Chiefs would be

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 1>thrilled to have him right tackle. That's exactly right. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I say I don't think he's a disappointment. No,

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>like his play is not a disappointments. He has played.

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>He is an above average right tackle, and I think

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>he will be paid like one. This has worked out

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>well for him because of what happened, and he was

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>able to to, you know, join the Cowboys in a

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>very talented line. But what my point is is that

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>he was drafted that high. You don't play him obviously,

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't PLAYM at right tackle. He play M at

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>left tackle, and then would he have been able to

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's where he might have been a disappointment

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But maybe he flourishes. Though I was

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, maybe maybe he's better at left tack. Then again,

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>he's been a guard, he's been a right tackle, He's

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 1>been back and forth. I mean, what is he I

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>was drafted tenth overall. He would have a different body

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 1>type than he has now. He would be a lot leaner.

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>He would be playing on that left side to justify

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the ten twenty million dollar contract that he received, and

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he would probably be a better I do wonder, though,

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.959
<v Speaker 1>I know the left tackle will always be important because

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it's the blindside of most NFL quarterbacks, but like it

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>seems like that doesn't matter as much as it used

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to kind of the same reason. You know, half of

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the best ends in the league play left end now,

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and so I'll never forget in seventeen, like poor Lyle,

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.959
<v Speaker 1>like his first season out there, he had to play Vaughan,

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>he had to play Mac. He always has to play Karagan, which,

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way, he once told me, he was like, yeah,

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Max great, m Max awesome. Von is tough, Like they're

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>all really good, but the toughest guy I deal with

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>year and year out is Karagan because he is he's

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>not and he's like, yeah, he's really talented, he's really good,

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's relentless, like he plays every rep of every

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>game as though it's his last always, and it's a nightmare.

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, I wouldn't have guessed that, because

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, Mac and Vaughan get all the headlines, so

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's hard over there. And I mean, Lane Johnson at

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>this point in his career is a better player than

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Jason Peters, but he plays right tackle because it's important too,

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know how much I buy that. But

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>if Lyle Collins had been a first round pick his

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>resume right now, you would consider it disappointing. I mean,

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that's harsh, but I think it's true. Yeah, I just

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>think about how he's played. He's had some moments that

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>have been not so great, but I think he's played

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty well in a lot of moments. So I think

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>from that's being said again, I wouldn't be disappointed. Now,

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 1>is he like on the level with those other guys?

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I would say this if he was drafted tenth overall,

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Like Nick said, he probably is on another team. He's

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>probably the best offensive lineman on that team, which means

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that he probably, in my opinion, probably gets a different

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 1>reputation because all offensive linemen are going to get beat

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>from time to time. Sure he has a different reputation

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that gets into a Pro Bowl, and so

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not the same thing. All I know is the

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. And let's go back to twenty ten. The

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>first round pick is the leading touchdown receiver in team history.

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eleven is a left five time All Pro left

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>tackle who might be going to Hall of Fame. Okay,

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 1>twelve wasn't so good. Thirteen is a perennial All Pro

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>fourteens going to the Hall of Fame, fifteens in All Pro,

0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 1>seventeen in our sixteens in All Pro. My point, however,

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the standard here for a first round pick is absurd

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 1>up until last year. You can say that about the cornerback,

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>right sure. So, so my point is, like you keep

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 1>letting this thing to him. His career is not let

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>this thing developed. I think what we've seen so far

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>to me is again not a disappointment. You wanted to

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit better, but that's the nature of

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>all these guys. You wanted to get a little bit

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>better every year, not remotely disappointing. And so your police

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>with with the position, positions change when they switched into

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>this position, remember when he should he be We're gonna

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>sign him? Oh oh no, no, no, it's not because

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. The dude, the dude, and new I

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>keep going back to Trent Brown. Lyle Collins is just

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>as good as Trent Brown, and trimp Brown got seventy

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 1>million dollars. They can't afford him. I mean, you know,

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I said this about Terrence Williams, and I was wrong.

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>But Lyle Collins is a much better player than Terrence

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Williams had a much more important position. So I really

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm going to be wrong this, and he

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>deserves to get paid if he plays this year like

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>he's him playing, or even better, he's gonna deserve to

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>get paid. And the Cowboys just can't pay everybody. I

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think maybe they can figure it out. I just

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think they can pay him. There are people who

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>think that they should try to trade him to upgrade

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>other parts because the offensive line is so talented, and

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I just think I think that's compensatory. I'll take that. Now,

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>give me the compensatory and give me the very very

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>good right tackle who can help me compete this season,

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>because I don't I'm not ready to move Connor Williams

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 1>out there and deal with all that right now with you,

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>all right, Safety Darien Thompson, what have you seen? Not much?

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't mean he hasn't have been doing things.

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I just he doesn't He plays with the with the

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.879
<v Speaker 1>twos right well, he started well at the beginning of camp.

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 1>He was running with the ones while Xavier was out.

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.399
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he's been running with the twos. Classic case,

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 1>classic case of the guy that the coaching staff likes

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than us. And I'm not saying we

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>don't like him, but we're like, well, yeah, what's he do.

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel pretty confident if you pulled Chris Richard or

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Keith a Quanta side, they'd be like, this guy's awesome,

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Like he gets it, he does this, he does that,

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.399
<v Speaker 1>And that's it's the disconnect between. You know, we see

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot and we have informed opinions, but we don't

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>really know, you know, in terms of like what they're

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>asking these guys to do, how much, how many teams

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>they can play on. I feel good about his odds

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>of making the team. I saw him making nice playing

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 1>coverage the other day, and I think he can provide

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>something on special teams. And the thing about the safety position,

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I think out here, in a lot of ways, what

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the coaches probably evaluate is different than what we see.

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Because sure, they're looking at how often is he in

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the right place where he's supposed to be so that

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>if it's a live game, he makes the play right

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>because you can't blow somebody up, you can't hit him,

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>can't necessarily make the tackle out here, But they're trying

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to see is he making the right reads, is he

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>getting himself in the right position. Is he where he

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>should be? And I think from the things I've kind

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>of seen, I think they're probably pretty happy with that

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>right now, based upon what they've seen from him so

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>far through camp. I thought John Kittena made a great

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 1>point yesterday he was talking to reporters. He was like,

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, the media is great, like y'all bring so

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>many people to the game. You do this, you do that.

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>But like in this day and age where y'all can

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>break down every single throw, DAK makes like you got

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>people losing their minds about training camp throws where you know,

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't know what we're telling them to do. Like

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:19.320
<v Speaker 1>we the point might be to be doing something goofy

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to see what happens, Like we want to try this strow,

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 1>let's see work. You just don't know where you try.

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>And so, like I said, we can learn a lot

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 1>with how much we're out here, but we'll never know

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the whole story. That's why I remember a preseason game

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a few years back, I mean several years Parcels was

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 1>here and it was like third and four or third

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and five from the thirty five yard line, and they

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>ran the ball right up the middle and it was

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>just like a one or two yard game, and it

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, what was that? And Parcels later said he

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.919
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't care about them getting the first down.

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to see if Billy Kunduff can make a

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>fifty one yard field goal. That's what I want to see.

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see if we get down and

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>score to the I've seen all that. I want to

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>see him kick at one yard field goal. So I

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>made a fifty one yard field goal, you know. And

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>so it's things like like you're saying, I mean he goes.

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 1>He also said things like, you know, like we we

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>don't need um, we don't need to see dad, you know,

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 1>like you need to see him. You're trying to compare

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.839
<v Speaker 1>him to game situations and we you know, like you said,

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.439
<v Speaker 1>we want him throwing the ball over here to create

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 1>this and that. So Ever you think Darian Thompson has

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a legitimate shot to make this team at safety, I

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>was about to ask you, guys, what is his experience again?

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>He's actually he's a pretty hefty draft pick. Like I

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 1>want to say, he was a second or third by

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the New York Giants. Yeah, it was it was three

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.800
<v Speaker 1>or four years ago at this point, like he's he

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 1>kicked around. He like he actually had a season as

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>a as a starter, Like he started a lot of

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:52.479
<v Speaker 1>games for them his either rookie or second year. Sorry,

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to pull it up on him. So knowing that,

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean shooting, he be a little further along as

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>far as he's playing. He was also let go by

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the Giants right twenty sixteen draft pick. Yeah, I mean

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.919
<v Speaker 1>he thinks so, I mean he was a high draft pick,

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:11.439
<v Speaker 1>but I mean seventy seventy first overall pick, third round

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 1>New York Giants sixteen, started all sixteen games in seventeen,

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything particularly special, and they let him go

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 1>after that. So yeah, disappointing stint with them. Obviously has

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the talent to be a top one hundred pick. I

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know what I mean to the head of that.

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my only hope isn't Chris Rashar and what

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 1>he can do. We always talking about him, and he's

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>proven to be a great coach and he's proven that

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 1>he can develop guys. So I'm just hoping Chris Rushar

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>is able to help out these safeties to get to

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>where they need to be. To be ready for the

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>season and see who makes it out. Yeah, I just

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they. I think they like Darian Tops. I

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 1>think he's a guy who used to keep your eye on.

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's guy that makes this team. But I

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 1>think they actually really like him, so we'll see. Let's

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.919
<v Speaker 1>turn to the final guy on the list. Uh, let's

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>start with you, Amber. What do you think about pun

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:07.320
<v Speaker 1>of Chris Jones? What has he done out here? You

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:11.919
<v Speaker 1>know what? It's funny, Well not really, but I feel

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:15.919
<v Speaker 1>that after Dan Bailey left, a part of him kind

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of left too. Okay, No, like, I see where you're going. Honestly,

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>the reason why I laughed is because I kind of

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>thought the same thing. Like I was like, oh here,

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Dan's departure took away. So I don't know, I don't know,

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>but it took something away that's his buddy. But um no,

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:45.840
<v Speaker 1>we saw a little declined last year. And I know

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a guy You've talked about a lot, Dave, and

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you've praised him a lot, and that is a position

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>that me personally, I don't necessarily notice that much or

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>pay that much attention to until last year when I

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 1>started seen those change. I'm like Okay, something seems a

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>little off here. So right now, what I've seen so far,

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't really know how to feel. I'm

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>ready for a real game to see how he plays out,

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>But as of right now, I really don't necessarily have

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>a fully battally shown on him. I'll tell you this,

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:21.399
<v Speaker 1>it is a hard position to evaluate from field level.

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 1>That's one thing I've learned is that he's standing back there,

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:27.400
<v Speaker 1>he booms the kick, and I mean they I mean,

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.399
<v Speaker 1>unless it's a terrible shank, which he's maybe had one

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>shank this whole time. You're just like, well, I think

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that went about forty yards, But I don't really have

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the level of sight to tell exactly what the yard

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 1>was unless he just kicks the Bejesus out of it,

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 1>which he's done. He has done that a couple times,

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>where like Reggie Davis is on the twenty and all

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:50.839
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden he's running back to the goal line.

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>He's done that two or three times. Yesterday he had

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:56.240
<v Speaker 1>a really nice one. It was like vintage Chris Jones.

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It bounced on like the eight and just bounced right

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>out of bounce. I was like, yeah, do that every time? Um, Yeah,

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was driving that train. He should have

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>made the Pro Bowl in twenty sixteen. Last year was

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:10.839
<v Speaker 1>it was a dip. He didn't down as many punts

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.839
<v Speaker 1>inside the twenty. He gave up way more. I mean,

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think it was sixteen that he gave up

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>like eight return yards the entire seat. It was incredible

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and that just wasn't the case last year. So he

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>looks fine. It's hard to gauge when you're standing on

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the field like that, but he looks he looks solid.

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I guess his big well either. Like they said, it's

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.280
<v Speaker 1>really tough to see that right now. And what's tricky

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:39.239
<v Speaker 1>about punters is that you got about a four yard

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 1>window of having a good punt or a bad punt

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:44.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're at the midfield, and those are the critical ones.

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Is the midfield punt, it's like, you know what, we

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>could go for it or we need to pin them back.

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>You need to get the ball about the eight or

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:53.360
<v Speaker 1>nine yard line, and that's where the returners like, I

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.840
<v Speaker 1>better fair catch this. But if it goes to the five,

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna let it go and it probably will bounce

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.200
<v Speaker 1>in if it goes a little bit shorter. And then

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you're catching it at the eleven or twelve, you may

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>return it and it's not really pinning them back so much.

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's a very It's not as easy as it sounds.

0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that knuckleball kick it needs to go

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:12.839
<v Speaker 1>at like the eight or nine yard line every time,

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>just fair catch it catch at the eight or nine.

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:16.760
<v Speaker 1>And now we're talking about a different set of plays

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that the offense calls. So it's an important position. I

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think he did it as well as he did

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 1>last year so as he has in previous years. So

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's that's something that they're working on. But also

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>let's not forget I know what people think it's nothing,

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 1>but he's a really good holder. He and that's important,

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>whole operations, whole understanding it where ilp he's gonna bring it,

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>how to put it down. We've never really seen any

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>issues there. I don't know if there's ever been any

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>issues holding in any NFL you know game for the

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys that they ever had. Well, you have to bring

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that up. Happens from time to time. All Right, we

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you, guys. Jonnis. We are back tomorrow on normal time. Sorry,

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 1>we had a little late start. Today. We'll be back

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:55.879
<v Speaker 1>on time tomorrow. Until then for Nick even tabe home

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and regards. See. I'm Derek Eagelson. This has been the

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