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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys football clubs. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is win the August seventh, twenty nineteen, season fifteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number twenty two. Welcome to latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We're live Moxnard, California. Cowboys are as you can see

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Speaker 1: behind us starting their walkthrough. It's a little early for

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Speaker 1: their walkthrough. They're doing something awesome. Yeah, like this is

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Speaker 1: It looks like they're meeting. Stop looking at their meeting

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Speaker 1: early to go over some finer points. And I would

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Speaker 1: listen to it. It's probably good stuff. But they have

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Speaker 1: they walk through this morning. They'll be back on the

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Speaker 1: field this afternoon for their normal practice at three thirty

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Speaker 1: There's a practice today and tomorrow. Tomorrow's practice actually is

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Speaker 1: in the morning. I think it's gonna be at ten thirty,

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah, And then there won't be another

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Speaker 1: on what you've seen from those guys throughout these practices

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Speaker 1: a documentary will be launching to day at three pm

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Speaker 1: Central Time, that's one pm Pacific called Welcome to Switzerland.

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Speaker 1: It was a documentary put together by Rob Phillips and

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Speaker 1: Ken Garrison and details Barry Switzer's time with the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Really really interesting story. As you may know from the

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Speaker 1: Deep Blue documentaries that we do. I think they're all

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Speaker 1: And so that's gonna launch today, makes you check it out.

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Speaker 1: If you can't catch it live, you'll be able to

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Speaker 1: watch it on demand later on our website, on our

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Speaker 1: a fallback plan to be a isolated runner in those situations,

424
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Speaker 1: and I think Chun is getting those reps and he's

425
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: looked good doing them too. Physical It is that a

426
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Speaker 1: guy you think at this point has an opportunity to

427
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: maybe make the steam. Ever, well, I know he's a

428
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: guy that has been mentioned by Will McClay, Stephen Jones.

429
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: They they've mentioned his name. And when you got this

430
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Speaker 1: group of guys and other guys that were drafted, you

431
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: know the fact that you're being mentioned by those people

432
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Speaker 1: means something because you tend to get lost in the group.

433
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Speaker 1: And to me, yes, he's been taking advantage of his

434
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Speaker 1: opportunities out here. But what are your no, no, no,

435
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Speaker 1: keep going. I'm sorry. I was gonna, I was gonna.

436
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: I was gonna compare him to a Hall of Famer. Actually, yeah, okay,

437
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: do you know what do you know what Terrell Davis

438
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: is like? Breakout moment was his career. There was a

439
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: special teams player I don't remember exactly, runs down and

440
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: just blasted some guy. That's what he's gonna have to do.

441
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: He's built like a linebacker. Go down there and show

442
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: you can contribute on that. Then you'll get opportunities to

443
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: be in the game and maybe run and all that

444
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. There's a good opportunity for him to

445
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 1: actually go down to be like a special teams linebacker. Okay,

446
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: it's just hard. It's hard for me to envision that,

447
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: like on a team, like if we assume Ezekiel Elliott

448
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: will be here, how do you make the team? It's hard.

449
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: It's hard to be special teams like Nicks is right,

450
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: even so I think I think Alfred Morris is the

451
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: wrench in that plan. Like and and you know they

452
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: don't they're not tied to him like they have to

453
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: keep him. But talking about a two time pro bowler

454
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: guy who's been here for a couple of years, he

455
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: is the only one on this team with Zeke not here,

456
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: who has any kind of extensive experience playing in the NFL.

457
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: And I think if they're just gonna be a backup,

458
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: as in, like you know, your main back, if Zeke

459
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: isn't there, whether it's injury or hold out or whatever,

460
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: I lean toward Alfred Morris um and so he's gonna

461
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: have to be a lot better. It does. It is

462
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: worth mentioning like Alfred Morris isn't a big special teams guy.

463
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: So if if Chun or Webber can do a ton

464
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Speaker 1: on special teams. In addition to that, I guess it's possible,

465
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: but I keep going back the day they drafted Pollard

466
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Speaker 1: and Webber. Stephen Jones was like, yeah, you know, be

467
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: tough for Webber or any of those other guys to

468
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: even get a jersey because Pollard can do this and

469
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: we've got Jama's who can do that. I was like, wow,

470
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: thanks for telling me you your breakdown for participation here

471
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: in May. Stephen, So thinking about that, knowing how they

472
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Speaker 1: want to use that, it's hard for me to imagine

473
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Speaker 1: how any of those guys really like the guy that

474
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Speaker 1: brings Zeke to the you know, like if he was

475
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Speaker 1: Zeka to sign or you know, come to camp. I

476
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: think the guy that drives him. Here's the guy that's

477
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Speaker 1: driving Alfred Morris back to La X. Yeah. No, and

478
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Speaker 1: that's what I think. That's it's you shouldn't assume. You

479
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: should not assume Alfred Morris is gonna make this team.

480
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Speaker 1: But I think we said it already and you can

481
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: kind of hear the whispers like it left an impact

482
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: on them, what C. J. Anderson did to them in

483
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I you know, I think they see

484
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris in a similar vein. I will also say this,

485
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: and you can take it as just kind of lip service,

486
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: but Jerry Jerry mentioned the fact that last year they

487
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: were they were a little bit um, not dismayed, but

488
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: they weren't very happy with the fact that they lost

489
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: out on resigning him last year and he ended up

490
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. They see him as a

491
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Speaker 1: guy that can be a nice number two, a nice

492
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Speaker 1: backup in the adventure guy gets hurt, So at least

493
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Speaker 1: from at least from no I get it, but at

494
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: least from what And honestly, I think they always had

495
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: plans that they were going to bring him in. I

496
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: think it got to a point where he was gonna

497
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: go down there. I signed with New Orleans and they

498
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: were like, oh, we can't, we gotta wait, we can't

499
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: wait on this, and they got scared, right and I

500
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: think they figured in camp, let's give these young guys

501
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: more of an opportunity. But they didn't want to lose

502
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: him and that forced their hand. That also says to

503
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: me they really wanted him on the team. Never rule

504
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: out anything, but I think the deck is stacked against

505
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: Darius Chun and Webber just in terms of like, how

506
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Speaker 1: do you justify it this roster. I actually think coming

507
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: into camp I was thinking Darius had a good shot.

508
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: I think he's probably the guy that think has one

509
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: of the worst shots, because when you really think about it,

510
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: like if if you're thinking Alfred Morris is going to

511
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Speaker 1: be your primary backup, obviously Paula plays the role that

512
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Speaker 1: he does, then you probably think, hey, if we like

513
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Speaker 1: what we're seeing from Chun and we like what we're

514
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Speaker 1: seeing from Webb, we keep one of those guys as

515
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: a younger back, it kind of pushes Darius out of

516
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: the door. So I think he's the one that, to me,

517
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: is in the most precarious situation. Wos Alfred done so

518
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: far here? Really not a lot? A lot? But that's

519
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: because I have to no, No, I get it, I

520
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: get it. Yes, he's been here before or two years

521
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: and he's shown all that. But I guess my expectations

522
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: with him coming back in that we would be talking

523
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: a little more about him, and you know, and I

524
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: don't know here what say we're talking about the other guys,

525
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: but let's this is a thing, and you know, the

526
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: NFL being a meritocracy, It's true but there's a lot

527
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: of myth in that too. And if you look at

528
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: what Alfred Morris is doing, they're slowly ramping him up

529
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: and eat him in because they know he doesn't. They

530
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: don't need to do that to him because they're like,

531
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: we got we got him, like we can preserve him.

532
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: Won him on week, seeing him in the preseason, we'll

533
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: see him. Yeah, I definitely think he's gonna play at

534
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: some point. I think so. Yeah, All right, wide receiver

535
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: Jalen guyton Nick, what do you see from him? Um,

536
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: he has flashed a few things every now and again.

537
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: I this isn't really fair because I kind of was

538
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: told yesterday that he is not. I was told yesterday

539
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: that when we did our receiver rankings, uh, and we

540
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: put him eight out of eleven, and I was told

541
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: he was closer to eleven. So you know somebody that

542
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Speaker 1: knows more than me about it and has watched him more,

543
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: so I just thought, I just thought, well, I thought,

544
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: you know that it's a guy they liked. So we didn't.

545
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: And again though we didn't rank them based off of

546
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Speaker 1: what they're doing out here, because Noah Brown ranked is

547
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Speaker 1: ranked fifth. We we ranked them a baseball where they

548
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 1: are so if and I still like it because if

549
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: he goes out Guidon has a fifty two yard touchdown

550
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: catch in the third quarter, we're gonna be talking about

551
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: him and he dumps right back into the mix. So

552
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: I you know, he hasn't been as good as some

553
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: of the others, but um, they like him. And he's

554
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: a big guy that can run. So if I had to,

555
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: if my life was on the line and I needed

556
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: somebody to run a go route and score a touchdown

557
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: for me, he'd be among the guys out here. He'd

558
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: be pretty close to the top of my list, maybe

559
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: even the top. He's his speed is no joke, but

560
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: he just doesn't look very polished. Usually when I watched

561
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: the receivers, Sanjay Law is usually yelling at him about something,

562
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: so very I think classic for an undrafted free agent

563
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: rookie receiver. Like a lot of talent, not a lot

564
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: of polish, you know, practice practice squad for him. Yeah,

565
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: I think he's Yes, he's a fast guy, but all

566
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: these others speedy. But he's a guy I definitely to

567
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: be on as I haven't seen him much, like I

568
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: don't notice too much from him. I noticed him because

569
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: I think it's Terence Terence, but even then I actually

570
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: think it's Terry Glenn. That's gonna take you back. But

571
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: that's what I keep thinking when I see him, because

572
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: he kind of has that kind of build me anyway

573
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: the way he looks when he's out there, but anyway

574
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: ahead he catches the ball forty yards downfield like once

575
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: per practice. But that's like all he does. Right, Yeah,

576
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: I guess I miss it every time because I don't

577
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: really see him much. All right, let's go on tight

578
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: end Blake Jarwin. Sorry, I just thought of something I

579
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: said Terry Glenn. I was thinking about our list that

580
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: we're working on with the tom Player. Yeah, we have

581
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Kelvin Martin at number eighty three. Oh, we're definitely gonna read.

582
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: But by the way, David actually helped us with settle

583
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: a debate yesterday. We were we're working on a project here.

584
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: We could do a whole show on that. We really could,

585
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: and actually we will. We're actually I'm waiting for you

586
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: guys to finish the thing and put it together and

587
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: then we will do it really good. He said. We

588
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: should be filming this. It was Mickey and Brian. Micky

589
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: and Brian we're gonna each other any different players daily occur,

590
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: but Dave, Dave went to the you know sometimes, like

591
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: in Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, you have to

592
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: just pull the audience to help, you know, And twenty

593
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: one it was like, who's the best twenty one in

594
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys history? And I mean I was kind of wondering

595
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: why this was even a debate, But the fans came

596
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: in and one in a landslade, and I was like,

597
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: I was like, why are you guys even arguing this?

598
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: Sanders at best cornerback in the history of the NFL,

599
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: you had him on your team. We're going we're going

600
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: off the rails here, But there's just a subsect of

601
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans who like, don't think you counted unless you

602
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: played fifteen years here? Right, he was, he was. Anyway,

603
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: we'll say that it's gonna be. It's fun and it's

604
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: really been a great, you know, project that we were

605
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: working on. So I don't know when we're gonna roll

606
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: it out pretty soon here, all right? Tight end? Blake

607
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: Jarlin thought you said I thought you said Dalton Schultz

608
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: in the pre production meeting, I did, I say? Both? Okay? Cool,

609
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: because I actually sent you. I showed you the list

610
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: I saw Dalton I want to talk about and it's

611
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, if you want to just

612
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: talk about both of them together, you can't. But I

613
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: had both of them. I guess the reason I even

614
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: say it, I just Jarwin has been a pretty steady

615
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: talking point here. Uh he's I think, so I mean that,

616
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: and I can hit them both in. One thing is that,

617
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of people lump them

618
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: together because they're both young there, they kind of came

619
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: in at the same time. They have similar builds and

620
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: all that, they're both they're both white, thank you, nick Um.

621
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Speaker 1: But it's it's not I don't view it as a

622
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: competition really into like, it's they're both making the team. Well,

623
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: they're both making the team. And Jarwin is just very

624
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: clearly to me a step or two or three above Schultz,

625
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: just in terms of his all around game. He is

626
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: always Witten's ahead of him, but he is always the

627
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: first guy in when they do twelve personnel. He gets

628
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: more run with the first team when Witten takes his

629
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: VET day. Jarwin's the one um he looks, he looks athletic.

630
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: He had a really nice touchdown catch from that. I

631
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: am so excited at the amount of stuff they are

632
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: doing in the seams. I feel like that has been

633
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: something that has been lacking from the Cowboys offense forever,

634
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: and Jarwin's doing it, Randall Cobb's doing it. Um. So

635
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Speaker 1: he looks really good. Schultz. Ironically, me and Brian were

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Speaker 1: a receiver, and then he went out and caught a

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Speaker 1: touchdown past in seven on seven two. Um. He looks

639
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Speaker 1: bigger and stronger, he looks a little more well rounded.

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Speaker 1: But I just think the pecking order is pretty firmly

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Speaker 1: established that he's three. Have you guys noticed anything with

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Speaker 1: because that was probably the biggest knock on the on

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Speaker 1: the tight end as a group last year. Have you

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Speaker 1: seen anything from them that suggested maybe they've improved in

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Speaker 1: that area. Well, I mean it's really tough to see that.

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Speaker 1: There's just a couple of goal line periods and all that,

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Speaker 1: but uh, you know the fact that they were they

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Speaker 1: were out there in the goal line. I think I

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Speaker 1: think we're going to see thirteen personnel quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll love it. But they love it. They

652
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Speaker 1: If that happens, then then obviously they'll have the confidence

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Speaker 1: I you know, I think Schultz is very similar to

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657
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Speaker 1: he's going to be and he's supposed to be better

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Speaker 1: than that. He's a fourth round pick, you know, from Stanford,

661
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Speaker 1: he looks better. I don't know what that means. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what his role is going to be. I

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Speaker 1: hope to god they don't run a lot of thirteen personnel,

665
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Speaker 1: but he does. I know what they do. You're right,

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Speaker 1: I just that's I really because like jar, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're tight ends. They're big guys, but they're not like

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Speaker 1: I hope Kellamore embraces the tight end as more of

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Speaker 1: a receiving threat than a blocking one. But yeah, it

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Speaker 1: might be wishful thinking. I'm excited about Blake if you

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Speaker 1: I see you there. No, But you know, starting from

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take our final break. When we

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Speaker 1: final segment of the Break from Hawksnard, California. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about players that you haven't heard a lot about on

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Speaker 1: Me More. We've gone through an extensive list so far.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk next about Lyle Collins. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: Let's go a Lyle Collins talk to me about the

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Speaker 1: uh the offensive tackle. What has he been doing out here? Um? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta be by door in Starmstrong yesterday and he

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Speaker 1: came back in one the other two battles, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that until you said it on the show because

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Speaker 1: I was kind of getting blocked by the whole team,

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00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: so I didn't see that that rep. But he won

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Speaker 1: impressively those other two times. It was kind Oh, is

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Speaker 1: that what we're doing? Okay? I think Lyle Collins is

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: victimized by the talent that he is surrounded by, because Columbo,

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00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: that's who he is. Although people forget he would have

758
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Speaker 1: been a first round pick. Oh, no doubt, no doubt,

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00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: forget that, I think, but I think been a bust.

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Speaker 1: Not a bust, no chance, no way. It wouldn't been disappointment. Probably.

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Speaker 1: I don't think a disappointment. I think he would have

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Speaker 1: been if he had been a top ten pick his

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00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: career to this point, you would probably consider him a disappointment. Really,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been to a Pro Bowl, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the standard around here. Offensive line. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't take them all. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: something to be said for having the name Cache as

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Speaker 1: a first round pick. I mean, yeah, that probably matters.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to call Lyle Collins a disappointment. My

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Speaker 1: point is Lyle Collins shares a line with two guys

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Speaker 1: who will have good cases to make the Hall of Fame. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and we have we have one that I think is

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Speaker 1: probably already close to being in Zach. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: just five years and three gending on what Frederick does.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. You know, we've been I've been watching from

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Speaker 1: the time I got here. Tyrn Smith looked terrible the

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Speaker 1: first time I got here because DeMarcus Ware just abused

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Speaker 1: him for a summer, and ever since then it's just

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00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: been effortless dominance. So, like, my idea of a left

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Speaker 1: tackle is just this athletic super freak who it is

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Speaker 1: amazing when he gets beaten. So when you compare Lyell

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00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: to that, you're like, oh, he's not that good. In reality,

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Speaker 1: he's pretty damn good. He's just he's probably not gonna

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Speaker 1: make it to the Hall of Fame. That's just is

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Speaker 1: what it is. But he is a he's a solid starter,

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Speaker 1: he gets beaten, he's he's definitely not perfect um, but

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Speaker 1: he is above average. I mean, most teams in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: other than like the Eagles and the Chiefs would be

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Speaker 1: thrilled to have him right tackle. That's exactly right. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I say I don't think he's a disappointment. No,

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Speaker 1: like his play is not a disappointments. He has played.

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Speaker 1: He is an above average right tackle, and I think

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Speaker 1: he will be paid like one. This has worked out

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Speaker 1: well for him because of what happened, and he was

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Speaker 1: able to to, you know, join the Cowboys in a

796
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Speaker 1: very talented line. But what my point is is that

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Speaker 1: he was drafted that high. You don't play him obviously,

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Speaker 1: you don't PLAYM at right tackle. He play M at

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Speaker 1: left tackle, and then would he have been able to

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Speaker 1: you know, that's where he might have been a disappointment

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But maybe he flourishes. Though I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, maybe maybe he's better at left tack. Then again,

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Speaker 1: he's been a guard, he's been a right tackle, He's

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Speaker 1: been back and forth. I mean, what is he I

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Speaker 1: was drafted tenth overall. He would have a different body

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Speaker 1: type than he has now. He would be a lot leaner.

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Speaker 1: He would be playing on that left side to justify

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Speaker 1: the ten twenty million dollar contract that he received, and

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Speaker 1: I think he would probably be a better I do wonder, though,

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Speaker 1: I know the left tackle will always be important because

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Speaker 1: it's the blindside of most NFL quarterbacks, but like it

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Speaker 1: seems like that doesn't matter as much as it used

813
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Speaker 1: to kind of the same reason. You know, half of

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Speaker 1: the best ends in the league play left end now,

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Speaker 1: and so I'll never forget in seventeen, like poor Lyle,

816
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Speaker 1: like his first season out there, he had to play Vaughan,

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Speaker 1: he had to play Mac. He always has to play Karagan, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, he once told me, he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all really good, but the toughest guy I deal with

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Speaker 1: year and year out is Karagan because he is he's

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Speaker 1: not and he's like, yeah, he's really talented, he's really good,

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Speaker 1: and he's relentless, like he plays every rep of every

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Speaker 1: game as though it's his last always, and it's a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I wouldn't have guessed that, because

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Speaker 1: you know, Mac and Vaughan get all the headlines, so

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Speaker 1: it's hard over there. And I mean, Lane Johnson at

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Speaker 1: this point in his career is a better player than

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Speaker 1: Jason Peters, but he plays right tackle because it's important too,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how much I buy that. But

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Speaker 1: if Lyle Collins had been a first round pick his

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Speaker 1: resume right now, you would consider it disappointing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's harsh, but I think it's true. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: think about how he's played. He's had some moments that

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Speaker 1: have been not so great, but I think he's played

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Speaker 1: pretty well in a lot of moments. So I think

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Speaker 1: from that's being said again, I wouldn't be disappointed. Now,

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Speaker 1: is he like on the level with those other guys?

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Speaker 1: I would say this if he was drafted tenth overall,

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Speaker 1: Like Nick said, he probably is on another team. He's

841
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: probably the best offensive lineman on that team, which means

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Speaker 1: that he probably, in my opinion, probably gets a different

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00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: reputation because all offensive linemen are going to get beat

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Speaker 1: from time to time. Sure he has a different reputation

845
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: and maybe that gets into a Pro Bowl, and so

846
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: it's not the same thing. All I know is the

847
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. And let's go back to twenty ten. The

848
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: first round pick is the leading touchdown receiver in team history.

849
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: Twenty eleven is a left five time All Pro left

850
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: tackle who might be going to Hall of Fame. Okay,

851
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: twelve wasn't so good. Thirteen is a perennial All Pro

852
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: fourteens going to the Hall of Fame, fifteens in All Pro,

853
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: seventeen in our sixteens in All Pro. My point, however,

854
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: the standard here for a first round pick is absurd

855
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: up until last year. You can say that about the cornerback,

856
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: right sure. So, so my point is, like you keep

857
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: letting this thing to him. His career is not let

858
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: this thing developed. I think what we've seen so far

859
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: to me is again not a disappointment. You wanted to

860
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: be a little bit better, but that's the nature of

861
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: all these guys. You wanted to get a little bit

862
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: better every year, not remotely disappointing. And so your police

863
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: with with the position, positions change when they switched into

864
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: this position, remember when he should he be We're gonna

865
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: sign him? Oh oh no, no, no, it's not because

866
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: that's the problem. The dude, the dude, and new I

867
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: keep going back to Trent Brown. Lyle Collins is just

868
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: as good as Trent Brown, and trimp Brown got seventy

869
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: million dollars. They can't afford him. I mean, you know,

870
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: I said this about Terrence Williams, and I was wrong.

871
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: But Lyle Collins is a much better player than Terrence

872
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: Williams had a much more important position. So I really

873
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: don't think I'm going to be wrong this, and he

874
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: deserves to get paid if he plays this year like

875
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: he's him playing, or even better, he's gonna deserve to

876
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: get paid. And the Cowboys just can't pay everybody. I

877
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: don't think maybe they can figure it out. I just

878
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: don't think they can pay him. There are people who

879
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: think that they should try to trade him to upgrade

880
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: other parts because the offensive line is so talented, and

881
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: I just think I think that's compensatory. I'll take that. Now,

882
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: give me the compensatory and give me the very very

883
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: good right tackle who can help me compete this season,

884
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: because I don't I'm not ready to move Connor Williams

885
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: out there and deal with all that right now with you,

886
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: all right, Safety Darien Thompson, what have you seen? Not much?

887
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean he hasn't have been doing things.

888
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: I just he doesn't He plays with the with the

889
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: twos right well, he started well at the beginning of camp.

890
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: He was running with the ones while Xavier was out.

891
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's been running with the twos. Classic case,

892
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: classic case of the guy that the coaching staff likes

893
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: a lot more than us. And I'm not saying we

894
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: don't like him, but we're like, well, yeah, what's he do.

895
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident if you pulled Chris Richard or

896
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: Keith a Quanta side, they'd be like, this guy's awesome,

897
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: Like he gets it, he does this, he does that,

898
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: And that's it's the disconnect between. You know, we see

899
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: a lot and we have informed opinions, but we don't

900
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: really know, you know, in terms of like what they're

901
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: asking these guys to do, how much, how many teams

902
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: they can play on. I feel good about his odds

903
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: of making the team. I saw him making nice playing

904
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: coverage the other day, and I think he can provide

905
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: something on special teams. And the thing about the safety position,

906
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: I think out here, in a lot of ways, what

907
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: the coaches probably evaluate is different than what we see.

908
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: Because sure, they're looking at how often is he in

909
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: the right place where he's supposed to be so that

910
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: if it's a live game, he makes the play right

911
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: because you can't blow somebody up, you can't hit him,

912
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: can't necessarily make the tackle out here, But they're trying

913
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: to see is he making the right reads, is he

914
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: getting himself in the right position. Is he where he

915
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: should be? And I think from the things I've kind

916
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: of seen, I think they're probably pretty happy with that

917
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: right now, based upon what they've seen from him so

918
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: far through camp. I thought John Kittena made a great

919
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: point yesterday he was talking to reporters. He was like,

920
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, the media is great, like y'all bring so

921
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: many people to the game. You do this, you do that.

922
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: But like in this day and age where y'all can

923
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: break down every single throw, DAK makes like you got

924
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: people losing their minds about training camp throws where you know,

925
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: you don't know what we're telling them to do. Like

926
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: we the point might be to be doing something goofy

927
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: to see what happens, Like we want to try this strow,

928
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: let's see work. You just don't know where you try.

929
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: And so, like I said, we can learn a lot

930
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: with how much we're out here, but we'll never know

931
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: the whole story. That's why I remember a preseason game

932
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: a few years back, I mean several years Parcels was

933
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: here and it was like third and four or third

934
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: and five from the thirty five yard line, and they

935
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: ran the ball right up the middle and it was

936
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: just like a one or two yard game, and it

937
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: was like, what was that? And Parcels later said he

938
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 1: was like, I don't care about them getting the first down.

939
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: I want to see if Billy Kunduff can make a

940
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: fifty one yard field goal. That's what I want to see.

941
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to see if we get down and

942
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: score to the I've seen all that. I want to

943
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: see him kick at one yard field goal. So I

944
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: made a fifty one yard field goal, you know. And

945
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: so it's things like like you're saying, I mean he goes.

946
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: He also said things like, you know, like we we

947
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: don't need um, we don't need to see dad, you know,

948
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: like you need to see him. You're trying to compare

949
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: him to game situations and we you know, like you said,

950
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: we want him throwing the ball over here to create

951
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: this and that. So Ever you think Darian Thompson has

952
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: a legitimate shot to make this team at safety, I

953
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: was about to ask you, guys, what is his experience again?

954
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: He's actually he's a pretty hefty draft pick. Like I

955
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: want to say, he was a second or third by

956
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Yeah, it was it was three

957
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: or four years ago at this point, like he's he

958
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: kicked around. He like he actually had a season as

959
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: a as a starter, Like he started a lot of

960
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: games for them his either rookie or second year. Sorry,

961
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to pull it up on him. So knowing that,

962
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean shooting, he be a little further along as

963
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: far as he's playing. He was also let go by

964
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: the Giants right twenty sixteen draft pick. Yeah, I mean

965
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: he thinks so, I mean he was a high draft pick,

966
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: but I mean seventy seventy first overall pick, third round

967
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: New York Giants sixteen, started all sixteen games in seventeen,

968
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: didn't do anything particularly special, and they let him go

969
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: after that. So yeah, disappointing stint with them. Obviously has

970
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: the talent to be a top one hundred pick. I

971
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: don't know what I mean to the head of that.

972
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, my only hope isn't Chris Rashar and what

973
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: he can do. We always talking about him, and he's

974
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: proven to be a great coach and he's proven that

975
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: he can develop guys. So I'm just hoping Chris Rushar

976
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: is able to help out these safeties to get to

977
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: where they need to be. To be ready for the

978
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: season and see who makes it out. Yeah, I just

979
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: I think they. I think they like Darian Tops. I

980
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: think he's a guy who used to keep your eye on.

981
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: I think he's guy that makes this team. But I

982
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: think they actually really like him, so we'll see. Let's

983
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: turn to the final guy on the list. Uh, let's

984
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: start with you, Amber. What do you think about pun

985
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: of Chris Jones? What has he done out here? You

986
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: know what? It's funny, Well not really, but I feel

987
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: that after Dan Bailey left, a part of him kind

988
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: of left too. Okay, No, like, I see where you're going. Honestly,

989
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: the reason why I laughed is because I kind of

990
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: thought the same thing. Like I was like, oh here,

991
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: Dan's departure took away. So I don't know, I don't know,

992
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: but it took something away that's his buddy. But um no,

993
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: we saw a little declined last year. And I know

994
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: he's a guy You've talked about a lot, Dave, and

995
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: you've praised him a lot, and that is a position

996
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: that me personally, I don't necessarily notice that much or

997
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: pay that much attention to until last year when I

998
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: started seen those change. I'm like Okay, something seems a

999
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: little off here. So right now, what I've seen so far,

1000
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really know how to feel. I'm

1001
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: ready for a real game to see how he plays out,

1002
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: But as of right now, I really don't necessarily have

1003
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: a fully battally shown on him. I'll tell you this,

1004
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: it is a hard position to evaluate from field level.

1005
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: That's one thing I've learned is that he's standing back there,

1006
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: he booms the kick, and I mean they I mean,

1007
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: unless it's a terrible shank, which he's maybe had one

1008
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: shank this whole time. You're just like, well, I think

1009
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: that went about forty yards, But I don't really have

1010
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: the level of sight to tell exactly what the yard

1011
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: was unless he just kicks the Bejesus out of it,

1012
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: which he's done. He has done that a couple times,

1013
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: where like Reggie Davis is on the twenty and all

1014
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's running back to the goal line.

1015
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: He's done that two or three times. Yesterday he had

1016
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: a really nice one. It was like vintage Chris Jones.

1017
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: It bounced on like the eight and just bounced right

1018
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: out of bounce. I was like, yeah, do that every time? Um, Yeah,

1019
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I was driving that train. He should have

1020
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl in twenty sixteen. Last year was

1021
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: it was a dip. He didn't down as many punts

1022
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: inside the twenty. He gave up way more. I mean,

1023
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: and I think it was sixteen that he gave up

1024
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: like eight return yards the entire seat. It was incredible

1025
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: and that just wasn't the case last year. So he

1026
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: looks fine. It's hard to gauge when you're standing on

1027
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: the field like that, but he looks he looks solid.

1028
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: I guess his big well either. Like they said, it's

1029
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: really tough to see that right now. And what's tricky

1030
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: about punters is that you got about a four yard

1031
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: window of having a good punt or a bad punt

1032
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: if you're at the midfield, and those are the critical ones.

1033
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: Is the midfield punt, it's like, you know what, we

1034
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: could go for it or we need to pin them back.

1035
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: You need to get the ball about the eight or

1036
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: nine yard line, and that's where the returners like, I

1037
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: better fair catch this. But if it goes to the five,

1038
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna let it go and it probably will bounce

1039
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: in if it goes a little bit shorter. And then

1040
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: you're catching it at the eleven or twelve, you may

1041
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: return it and it's not really pinning them back so much.

1042
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: So it's a very It's not as easy as it sounds.

1043
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean that that knuckleball kick it needs to go

1044
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: at like the eight or nine yard line every time,

1045
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: just fair catch it catch at the eight or nine.

1046
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: And now we're talking about a different set of plays

1047
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: that the offense calls. So it's an important position. I

1048
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: don't think he did it as well as he did

1049
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: last year so as he has in previous years. So

1050
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: maybe that's that's something that they're working on. But also

1051
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: let's not forget I know what people think it's nothing,

1052
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: but he's a really good holder. He and that's important,

1053
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: whole operations, whole understanding it where ilp he's gonna bring it,

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Speaker 1: how to put it down. We've never really seen any

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Speaker 1: issues there. I don't know if there's ever been any

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Speaker 1: that up. Happens from time to time. All Right, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys. Jonnis. We are back tomorrow on normal time. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: we had a little late start. Today. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: on time tomorrow. Until then for Nick even tabe home

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