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Speaker 3: I just wanted jazz music. I just want to I

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Speaker 3: I'm actually happy the Utah Jazz kept their name for

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Speaker 3: another one here. Which player would you like to see

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Speaker 1: What will you go?

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Speaker 3: Go wherever you want?

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Speaker 1: Hold on, I got to pick like an eighth man

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Speaker 3: At the highest seven point five skeets. Whatever you want,

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Speaker 1: Then there's like the current like cream of the crop MVP,

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Speaker 2: Trade target. Trade Target might be going to the Warriors,

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Speaker 2: he could pick one up. I think the funniest possible

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Speaker 2: ending to the season is Nicola Jokic having a better

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Speaker 2: because it would be the third time and people are like,

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Speaker 2: we can't do it, we can't give him a third one.

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Speaker 2: But they finish, he has a better season, they have

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Speaker 2: the best team, they win the title, Andy win finals MVP.

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Speaker 2: That would be a hilarious ending season, very foolish. But

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Speaker 2: the number one guy for me is Jimmy Butler, certified

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Speaker 2: playoff stud, no doubt about it. Had a forty thirteen

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Speaker 2: and eleven in the NBA Finals, a little Dirk like

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Speaker 2: run where he's the most clutch player in the league.

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Speaker 2: A feasible thing for Jimmy Butler come playoff time. That's

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Speaker 2: a guy I'd like to see put a ring on it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great picks, everybody, I did follow the Reddit rules here.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be kicked off Reddit, so I

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Speaker 3: want a little bit deeper. But connecting your Nicola Jokic

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Speaker 3: winning or winning his first champiionship leads to my guys,

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Speaker 3: because DeAndre Jordan, I wouldn't mind see winning a ring

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Speaker 3: because I think every other NBA player wants him to

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Speaker 3: want him on their team. Not to play really just

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Speaker 3: a high five, be a locker room guy. He got

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Speaker 3: to hold the bucket to splash David Adelman in his

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Speaker 3: first coach, first coaching win for the Nuggets when Michael

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Speaker 3: Malone was out. And connected to that, Jeff Green also

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Speaker 3: on the Nuggets guy who's great and the Nuggets would

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Speaker 3: be great because there's a guy named Jack White on

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Speaker 3: the roster. I think he's a two way player and

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Speaker 3: the Nugget Nation couldn't hold me back. It wasn't awesome anyways,

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Speaker 3: DeAndre Jordan, Jeff Green, Jack White. But the most the

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Speaker 3: most up votes, most up votes on that post drives

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Speaker 3: exactly with my pick. Ricky Rubio was up voted the

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Speaker 3: great one another deep. He's back with the Cavs. He's

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Speaker 3: played a few games off the bench, he's slowly coming along.

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Speaker 3: And Wesley Matthews, who I've always loved. He was a

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Speaker 3: the Bucks. He joined the year before the Bucks won

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Speaker 3: the Bucks won the ship. So those are my picks.

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Speaker 3: I went role players. You described all the superstars. Yeah, perfect,

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Speaker 3: perfect for everybody. Jimmy is a great pick.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's a good one. There's because he sort of maybe

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Speaker 1: like really helps a Hall of Fame case. Maybe doesn't

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Speaker 1: like Lowry winning a ring, you know later on in

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Speaker 1: his career. This happened with other players before, Like who

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Speaker 1: like Al Horford.

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Speaker 2: It would help his case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean, Like, like I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: Sort of Jimmy. Jimmy is different. Yeah, Jimmy's Dirifer than

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Speaker 3: Horford or Sean Marion, because he would be the number

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah, he's the number two on that team.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, a lot of votes for Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 1: People would love to see you get a ring. I mean,

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Speaker 1: his Dirk, like, it would be ring if he pulled

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, yeah, very good answers. Enough love, Let's

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Speaker 3: get to the hating this next one. We're really flipping

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Speaker 3: the script here, going to look at the teams we

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Speaker 3: team you're happy to see not win a title in

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Speaker 3: a particular year. I would say, yeah, yeah, a particular

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Speaker 3: event perhaps Zodiac Killer nineteen sixty eight, Mood Killer nineteen

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Speaker 1: I think you teased it on this morning's podcast, the

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Speaker 1: twenty ten to eleven heatles not winning two Dirk's Dallas

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Speaker 1: So they were fine. The Heat did. But that's the

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I can't say doing the show for this long

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you didn't want to see the two

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Speaker 3: But after those bad Raptors fans cheered when Kevin Duran

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Speaker 3: they shouldn't have been the twenty eleven team the twenty

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Speaker 3: eleven finals. Yeah, that's that's the number one answer, I think.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the clear answer after Yeah, the Lebron

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Speaker 1: They had also just beat your bulls too, right after

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Speaker 3: That's just the peak. It's peak karma. They were walking

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Speaker 3: the next two games and it was done. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: is wild that that team didn't get a chance to repeat.

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Speaker 3: I know that's a the old maps. Yeah. Yeah. Ripping

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Stevenson, it is surprising. And JJ Burray, it is surprising.

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Speaker 3: Just it's weird. It's just that's a weird part of

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Speaker 3: Cubes Anyway, that was Yeah. I couldn't get away from

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Speaker 1: What do you got anyone else?

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Speaker 2: Twenty twelve, thirteen and twenty thirteen fourteen Indiana Pacers. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they lost to the Miami Meat And if they would

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Speaker 2: there is to it. I can't say it any other way.

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Speaker 2: Things worked out perfectly, though, because of the thirteen fourteen Pacers,

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Speaker 1: One good one. The only other one I have here.

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Speaker 1: This is going way back. So like I was a

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Speaker 1: Raptors to cheer for. I was a Bulls fan, Michael

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Speaker 1: wasn't the biggest New York Knicks fan. And they go

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Speaker 1: to the finals there in ninety three ninety four, obviously

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Speaker 1: not having an MJ to have to get by, and

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Speaker 1: who do they go up against but one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite players of all time in the Cheam the Dream,

433
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Speaker 1: Elijah On. So I was definitely cheering for Houston to

434
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Speaker 1: beat the New York Knicks in that series that went seven,

435
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 1: right in to Game seven, that one, but yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the only other other one.

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Speaker 2: Nice great twenty twenty one sons. Ye I only had

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Speaker 2: the twenty two sons.

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Speaker 3: As well as the sun Seater yeah.

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Speaker 2: Reason yeah, yeah, and they got a two l lead

441
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Speaker 2: blew it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I lost four straight to lose it. Tough one, tough.

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Speaker 1: One, tough, tough, tough. Alright, there's work. Let's hear from

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Speaker 1: everybody out there in the stream. Team. Everybody's dropping their

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Speaker 1: answers right now.

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Speaker 2: A team that Jazz votes and.

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Speaker 1: Happy to not win the title. No, I haven't seen

449
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Speaker 1: a lot of Jazz votes yet. The Karl Malone, John

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Speaker 1: Stockton Jazz.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I meant the go Beart Mitchell Jazz. Oh?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: I mean Malone Stockton didn't have a chance.

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Speaker 1: Don't you have to sort of get close to be

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Speaker 1: considered in this one. That's the other part. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I guess I was looking at teams that only got

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Speaker 1: to the finals. But you're right, you can come up

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Speaker 1: short in a conference finals.

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Speaker 2: People like Houston Rockets during the James Harden his peak.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine there's some votes for that as well.

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Speaker 3: That was hot in the reddit streets. Yeah, all those years,

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Speaker 3: the hardened years, that's about it. I anecdotally my brain,

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Speaker 3: I always think the Jazz with the go Beart and

464
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Speaker 3: Mitchell got to a conference finals, got that close.

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Speaker 2: They did not know that the league and wins a

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Speaker 2: couple of times.

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Speaker 3: All right, no, yeah, as a one seed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take our first break when we

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Speaker 1: come back. A whole lot more from NBA reddit. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to some other NBA Reddit threads. If you

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Speaker 2: All right, what we got.

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Speaker 3: This is about the longevity of Lebron James. How long

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Speaker 3: could Lebron play if he went as long as he

478
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Speaker 3: possibly could?

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Speaker 1: It was worded interestingly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because because he's really laying it down, he's going

481
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Speaker 2: as long as he can. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This is from acceptable taste nine to one to two.

483
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Speaker 3: An acceptable question, imo, because it's all how you look

484
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Speaker 3: at it. Do you think Lebron he's obviously going to

485
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Speaker 3: go on his own terms. He's never gonna come off

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Speaker 3: the bench, but he could. If you don't think you will, No.

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Speaker 1: You think Lebron when it's all said and done at

488
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Speaker 1: the end of his career, he just he doesn't have

489
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Speaker 1: a little Vince Carter like a couple of seasons in him. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean no, he might be right at thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Now, you know, it's it's funny with NBA players, they

492
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: just it's below some of them. I would say to

493
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Speaker 3: come off the bench, and I think it would be

494
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Speaker 3: below Lebron. I just don't think he would. He'd be

495
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Speaker 3: one of those players. But that's fine.

496
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Speaker 1: But I mean, what if we all did come off

497
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Speaker 1: the bench? No, we I think we uh just all

498
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: agree that Lebron I mean, he wants to still win

499
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Speaker 1: titles and still chase you know, the legacy of MJ.

500
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Speaker 1: I get all that, but he also wants to play

501
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Speaker 1: with his damn son in the NBA maybe son splurrouh.

502
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Speaker 1: And so I guess the question I'm getting to is

503
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Speaker 1: if we were to fall off here, because he's still

504
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Speaker 1: like one of the top ten players currently in the

505
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Speaker 1: league at age thirty eight, you know, still playing whatever

506
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Speaker 1: he plays, like thirty five plus minutes a game. If

507
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Speaker 1: it meant to stick around to see his son come

508
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Speaker 1: in the NBA to take on a bench roll, would

509
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Speaker 1: he not do that to make it a reality? Not

510
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Speaker 1: that he has to, No, he won't.

511
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Speaker 3: He won't.

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Speaker 1: He won't have to. I guess what you're saying, Well, okay.

513
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Speaker 3: I mean it's basically a year and a half away convinced.

514
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Speaker 1: I'm not as convinced as you that he would never

515
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Speaker 1: ever come off the bench.

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Speaker 3: He's too old for that. I was looking at wait

517
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Speaker 3: wait extend. Yeah no, but he doesn't have to reinvent

518
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: himself here at age forty because he's already had such

519
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: a great career, you know what I mean. I look

520
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Speaker 3: at it that way. He just doesn't have to go

521
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Speaker 3: to that era, or he just doesn't have to live

522
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Speaker 3: that way. I was reading an article about Vince Carter

523
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Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, and it was about actually the Cubes situation,

524
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: the MAVs replacing Deshaun Stevenson with Vince Carter, essentially, who

525
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Speaker 3: was quote in the ESPN article at the end of

526
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Speaker 3: his career, at the twilight of his career, which is

527
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Speaker 3: crazy because he played another eight years. But that's why

528
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Speaker 3: Vince went to the bench and it worked out for him.

529
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Speaker 3: Lebron won't have to he's playing, He's one of the

530
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Speaker 3: top ten players in the game. His son will be

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Speaker 3: drafted a year and a half from now, most likely

532
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, So I doubt it. Look at

533
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Speaker 3: it however you want. Look at this question, however, you

534
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Speaker 3: that's all I.

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Speaker 2: Was looking at it. Let's say Lebron goes Vince Carter

536
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Speaker 2: mode at the end of his career, he goes to

537
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Speaker 2: the bench. Vince was playing fifteen minutes a game at

538
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Speaker 2: age forty three. Lebron could easily do that at age

539
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Speaker 2: forty three. But for sure, in another five seasons, Lebron's

540
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Speaker 2: still going to be starter quality. I do believe he

541
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Speaker 2: might not be MVP quality, but he'll be a starter

542
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Speaker 2: level basketball player in five seasons. Vince played eight seasons

543
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Speaker 2: after transitioning to the bench, So if Lebron did that,

544
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Speaker 2: he could play ten more seasons, no problem. I bet

545
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: he could play till he'st fifty.

546
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Speaker 3: I think so too if he was a bench player.

547
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: I don't know when that transition would be. Yeah, but yeah,

548
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 3: I think fifty.

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Speaker 1: He's come off the bench one time in his NBA career,

550
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Speaker 1: at least according to Basketball Reference, So one game during

551
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: the seven eight series a season he uh for whatever reason,

552
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: came off the bench, and I would know why, I don't.

553
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: I can't recall. Might be a YouTube short in that though,

554
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: the time Lebron came off the bench.

555
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: That's not bad.

556
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, says he played seventy five games that year

557
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: and he started seventy four, so one of those games

558
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: he came off the bench. Uh yeah, what how old

559
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Speaker 1: is Tom Brady forty five? Yes, two completely different sports.

560
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the quarterback. There's a lot of protection

561
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: around that, and I get all that he's not playing defense.

562
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think it's much more if you

563
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Speaker 1: are forty five playing at an elite level in the NBA.

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00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: I do think that's more impressive, I guess than maybe

565
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback playing to forty five. But is he if

566
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: he's done it until then, Definitely Lebron could in terms

567
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: of the way they just are like psycho and taking

568
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: care of their bodies and and all of that and

569
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: the money he puts into that. But man, I don't know.

570
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: I can't believe he's going We're going to see him

571
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: play very very very likely knock on wood with you know,

572
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: barring injury, with his son or sons, and we're gonna

573
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: get a real Ken Griffy and Ken Griffy junior situation.

574
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, in fact, even cooler because Lebron will probably

575
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: still be good. Yeah, I don't how was Ken Griffy

576
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: when Ken Griffy Jr. Came in very old. Yeah, I

577
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: can't imagine he was all right. He wasn't making All

578
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: star teams?

579
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: Was he no sketching? He was shagging some flies out there.

580
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: But I don't remember those those teams. Mm hmm. But

581
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: baseball different. I'm glad we didn't bring up baseball. How

582
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: old is the oldest baseball player who played?

583
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: That's a little Francott page.

584
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: You can be a designated batsman and not take the field,

585
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: so you kind of have to play both sides. It's

586
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: not like football. You gotta play both sides here in basketball,

587
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: even if you give up a lot of layups. But yeah, guaranteed,

588
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: whether or not Lebron goes to the bench or not,

589
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: he will be the longest tenured player, play the most seasons,

590
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: most seasons, not the most games, with the most seasons

591
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: in NBA history. He'll get to twenty three. Vince has

592
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: the most with twenty two.

593
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: So you think then he's gonna crack go very easily.

594
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: I guess forty thousand points.

595
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: I guess so right. Yeah, he's had.

596
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Speaker 1: Thirty thousand now only two thousand. He can do that

597
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: like I can do it. Almost see a year. I mean,

598
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: if he played all eighty two, he could do it

599
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: a year, but probably not now who it's wild man.

600
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: You can look at his basketball reference pages. It looks

601
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: like a baseball page. That's how long they look a

602
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: baseball reference. It's just you know, eighteen All Star, eighteen

603
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: All NBA, obviously all the titles. And he's still still

604
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: He's playing thirty six minutes per game. That's crazy. He's

605
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: thirty years old. It just doesn't feel like it. I mean,

606
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Trey. He's lost, of course, some athleticism

607
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: compared to like ten years ago, but he sure looks

608
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: like one of the best players on a nine to

609
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: night basis, one of the best still in the league.

610
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely.

611
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: Apparently Lebron asked to come off the bench in the

612
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: one game he ever came off the bench. He was

613
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: returning from a sprain left the tax finger, Anderson Verajao

614
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: was in the middle of a contract dispute with the

615
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers. Lebron said, bring me off the bench with

616
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: Andy so that they don't boo him. We got ourselves

617
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Speaker 2: on YouTube.

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00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: Cut it back.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's pretty crazy.

620
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: Sounds like Lebron wrote that article. Yeah, he may have.

621
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: That's good.

622
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: And also, Michael Jordan came off the bench to start

623
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Speaker 2: his last season in his career, Larry Hughes and Jerry Stackhouse.

624
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: Larry and Jerry, He's like, what are we doing? I'm

625
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards.

626
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Me.

627
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't believe it.

628
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: It never happened.

629
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Speaker 3: That's why it's good call. Yeah, fifteen games to start

630
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: that season. Totally forgot about that, then played the other

631
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: sixty seven as a starter. Smart guy. All right, next

632
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: one here, what are your all time worst basketball takes?

633
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: Go deep in the bag of terrible takes. This is

634
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: from vast Art six six three.

635
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: I said Lebron James would be the biggest bust in NBA.

636
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: Definitely some people in the thread that thought that very thing.

637
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: I guess because he was the best. I guess in

638
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: high school. There's a lot of high sight.

639
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Covers and yeah, high school games on national television.

640
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: Some Telfair live up to the pressure. Some Telfair connection

641
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: to that. Yeah, well, the same, same, same vibes.

642
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: That's a that's an Alzheimer's an unlucky one. I guess

643
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: if you did say Lebron would be a bust. Mine is.

644
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: I've said it before a million times on this podcast.

645
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: I thought one Jason Maxiel was a blossoming star in

646
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: this league. I love the way he played, a great look,

647
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: great nickname, he ate babies, and I specifically.

648
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: Made a bet had a great look.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just like I just like to play

650
00:31:54,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: more than it was ferocious. I had a I guess

651
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: oddly infamous bet with Tasks way back in the Basketball

652
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: Jones days, uh what like sixteen years ago, fifteen sixteen

653
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: years ago that Jason Maxiel would make an All Star

654
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: team before Danny Granger. It's the weirdest bet ever made.

655
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: And I was high on Max Seal and Tess like, no,

656
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Danny Granger is, he's a score, he's a better player,

657
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. So that's one of my worst takes.

658
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: Dany Granger turned into a very very solid NBA player.

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Speaker 1: You know, he had a couple of years that were

660
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: really really impressive. Maxil not so much. And then it

661
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: got so bad that he's playing overseas and he's like

662
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: getting kicked out of league's for like, you know, turning

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Speaker 1: into a lunatic. So that wasn't a good look for

664
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: my guy either. But yeah, anytime Jason Maxiel comes up,

665
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: I get tweeted about, hey, here's a lot. Well it

666
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: was happening when he was going nuts. Yeah, I was

667
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: getting a lot of that three in it. He did.

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Speaker 1: I believe Big three. I think you're right, he'd be good.

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Speaker 3: He'd be good with space. Oh god, now I'm talking

670
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: about I'm talking myself into Jason. Jason Maxiel are coming back.

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00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: I saw somebody.

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00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: I was like, man, he's playing like Jason Maxieal I

673
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: forget who I thought of. Oh wow, Brandon Clark maybe okay,

674
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: just dunks all the time?

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00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: Is Jason Maxiel Sarah highest for points per game in

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00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: a season?

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00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 3: Maxiel for points per game?

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00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve, not even clothes. You're way too high. Why

680
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: was I in love with this guy so much? He

681
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: was playing limited minutes. That's why he uh seven point

682
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: nine points per game in his third season. He was

683
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: coming off the bench. Brandon clarka like, there, you know,

684
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: in twenty one minutes per game, but up eight and

685
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: five A block was a beast?

686
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: All right, Trey? What is your all time worst basketball take?

687
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, I thought Steve Kerr was making a

688
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: mistake coaching the Golden State Warriors when he had the

689
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: job all sewn up with the New York Knicks.

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00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoops.

691
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Phil Jackson was the Knicks GM at the time. Steve

692
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: Kerr had zero coaching experience. Phil Jackson obviously coached Steve

693
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: Kerr when he was with the Bulls. I thought that

694
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: was a soft landing place a guy who would be

695
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: helpful or he knew in the front office. Not a

696
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: lot of expectations for a pretty bad Knicks team at

697
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: the time. Meanwhile, the Warriors were like a fifty win

698
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: team just waiting to see if they were going to

699
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: fire Mark Jackson after they went to the playoffs. I

700
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: thought that might be a little too much pressure for

701
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: a guy going into his first coaching job. But I

702
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: think he made the right choice. Yeah, yeah on that one,

703
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 2: because now he's one of the NBA's top fifteen coaches

704
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Speaker 2: of all time.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Steve Kerr, wasn't he He might be? I mean,

706
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: what a lot of rings?

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00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got four rings though.

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00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about.

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00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: Nine rings, right. I think they said that at the

710
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: White House the other day when he was getting introduced

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Speaker 1: as a player and coach.

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00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense three with the Bulls, two with

713
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: the Spurs for the Warriors.

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00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: That's right.

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00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's a top fifteen coach. He gave an

716
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: interview to John Stewart about that. He said he would

717
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: have been fired within two seasons within the mix coach,

718
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: which is probably true. Yeah, they just cycled through him.

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00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It is strange that we named the top fifteen coaches

721
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: along with the top seventy five players, right, that was

722
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: at the same time.

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00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing all that.

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00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 3: Let's throw them on. Yeah, that's the fifteen. Weird number

725
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 3: twenty now had to squeeze in a lot of the

726
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: current guys. So you had to go fifteen. I guess

727
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: why not twenty?

728
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: Who of the current crop made it? Doc Rivers I

729
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: think made it?

730
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: I think so.

731
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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 1: And then of course who just occurred that might be it.

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Speaker 3: Might be it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Yeah, Rick Carl, I don't Rick car No,

735
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Speaker 1: Rick No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: The top fifteen list, Oh my.

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00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 1: God, that goes you know that the top of your head? Wow?

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Speaker 3: All right, Oh yeah, I hod about you.

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00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: I did have one here, all time wars basketball take.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I don't want to say my all time

741
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: worst one because everybody knows it. Everybody knows that I

742
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: called yis overrated in twenty fifteen. That wasn't a bad take.

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00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't about take. In twenty fifteen. People were paying

744
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: I'm not going to defend it, okay, but it was

745
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: a good take, and it helped propel Yannis to the

746
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 3: level he is at right now. We created some shorts

747
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: about it. It worked out all the time. Great take. Actually, anyway,

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00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: I thought the Vince Carter deal when he was traded

749
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: from the Raptors, it was all right.

750
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: In the moment, even though.

751
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: I was I was just a gullible youngster thinking I

752
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: don't mind it, I don't mind it. I'm buying it.

753
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: Some hard working players, that's what we need around here.

754
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: Some guys who can't really can't really score, just play

755
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: harder because they dealt him for this is this is

756
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: this is peak Vince, Vince's peak of his powers. This

757
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: is dunking overthrew above around.

758
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Speaker 1: Oh, this is the peak of his quitting on the Raptors. Yeah.

759
00:36:59,640 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

760
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: For a couple of months in the two thousand and

761
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: four or two thousand and five season, he said him done,

762
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: traded him to the Nets, for Aaron Williams, that lefty

763
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 3: center ish guy if you remember him, Eric Williams.

764
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a couple Williams.

765
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: Hard work and wing the ghost of Alonzo Morning because

766
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: he never showed up in Toronto, so maybe I was

767
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: buying that as well. And a couple first round picks.

768
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: It's not terrible when you look at it, some nice

769
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: rose colored glass.

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00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: The name a single player coming back, literally not a player.

771
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: Are you Ronaldo balking at that trade? Ronaldo Bachman came

772
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 3: over as one of the trades. It became one of

773
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: the draft picks, I should say, and Joey Graham did

774
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: was a.

775
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: Big Joey gram guy.

776
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: Mourning Williams's Graham Bachman and they traded Mourning for nothing. Yeah.

777
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: Well they turned Ronald Bachman and Jalen Rose into Antonio Davis.

778
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: That's impressive.

779
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ronaldo Bachman ever played for the Raptors. No, he's

780
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: a nick right away. That was a guy that Antonio

781
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: Davis is a known name. Oh yeah, but at the

782
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: end of his career the oh yeah, they didn't get

783
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: all Starnot didn't.

784
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: Antonio was played three times for the rap I think

785
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: he was like.

786
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: Thirty coming back.

787
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: Wow. He did you're right love, Yeah, he said twice.

788
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: Twice he said he hated Toronto, but he loved it.

789
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: I can't keep coming back, Antonio. No, he was great, obviously,

790
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: he was an all star. Those are good times anyway,

791
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: all right, dark days, Yeah, yeah.

792
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: And then it got even worse when Vince went to

793
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: the nets and then was like, oh he was back

794
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: to like highlight reel Vince twenty five plus a game

795
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: in sleep Ro and then yeah, and then beating the

796
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: wraps every time they played.

797
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: It was storing them in amazing fashion. Yeah, hitting game winners,

798
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: mocking them.

799
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: We were there.

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00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: That was tough, all right. Next, the next one here,

801
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: which current superstar will be forgotten in twenty years? That's

802
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 3: from Gumby Guy nineteen eighty five, So.

803
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: Gum By got right.

804
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: It's also gun By gun By.

805
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 3: You man, there's always gun By that guy.

806
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: That is a tough question. Which current superstar will be

807
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: forgotten in twenty years?

808
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: I edited it because it was a lot of which

809
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: recent superstar. The actual thread is which recent superstar from

810
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: the last ten years? Which star from the last ten

811
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: years will be Okay, So there was a lot of

812
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: LaMarcus Aldridge. That's a good one.

813
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, yeah, you can get into

814
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: the definition of superstar, which becomes the problem. But that's fine.

815
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think the original thread was more

816
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: of a star than superstar, so I took it up

817
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: a notch because there was also Aldridge, Jamar Derosan it's

818
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: not a bad one.

819
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one.

820
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: And Paul Millsap was there. But yeah, okay, it's he's

821
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: already forgotten about to be honest, unfortunately, right right, right,

822
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: but uh those are those were the three leading the way.

823
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: But I went current Superstar to make it a little

824
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: tougher here instead of stars from the last decade as

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00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: Gumby Guy, gum By Guy throughout there, Aldrin, Deroz and

826
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: millsav some some of them more current. What do you got, Trey,

827
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: I actually think a lot of superstars.

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00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: Do get forgotten.

829
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: It's a good point they do.

830
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: Dominique Wilkins all time great, multiple All NBA player, he's

831
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: got a statue, he's on a current broadcast. You never

832
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: hear the guy's name brought up. Sad. It's honestly sad

833
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: that there are so many great players and it gets

834
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: reduced to like if you're talking about the eighties nineties.

835
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: It's like Bird, Magic, Jordan and the big guys. Yeah,

836
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: that's pretty much it. So I'm like Dame Lillard, Paul George,

837
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler. Yeah, I gotta win a title. It's it's

838
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's the title part.

839
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: Like like Dirk would have been unfortunately this if he

840
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: didn't get that one. I feel like because of all

841
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: those things he said about. I mean, it was Magic

842
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: and Bird winning all the titles in the eighties, is

843
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: base MJ winning all the title are a good majority

844
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: of the titles along with the team when j wasn't

845
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: there in the nineties. You know, I struggled with this

846
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: because I actually was like, well, hold on, let's go

847
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: back twenty years. Let me see the list of like

848
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: players at that time, the best players in the game,

849
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: and go like, well, who's forgotten? So I ordered them

850
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: by points per game two thousand and two, three season.

851
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady, You tell me if they're like forgotten so

852
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: to speak. Tracey McGrady, Yeah, years ago in a way, Yeah,

853
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: in a way.

854
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so famer. Yeah, but that's the thing.

855
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: If you're all of fame, are you for forgotten? I

856
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: guess too, But okay, Tracey McGrady, Kobe Bryant, the late

857
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: Great Kobe Bryant, Allen Everson, Sequille O'Neil. Okay, so no, no, no, no,

858
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: they're Paul Pierce. He's always, yeah, honestly got the.

859
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: He's got he's got Celtics backers.

860
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 3: Well yeah yeah, but other Celtics. Kevin Garnett will get

861
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: a lot more from that team.

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00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: For sure. Okay, then Dirk, then Duncan. Kevin Garnett's there.

863
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Speaker 1: Chris Webber, yep, I think that's I mean, he at

864
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Speaker 1: least had the style of play, was ahead of his

865
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Speaker 1: time type thing. You know, he sort of hangs around

866
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: in the lexicon because of that. Ray Allen and then

867
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Speaker 1: this one. I finally got to like number eleven where

868
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, nobody, nobody remembers this player.

869
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: But to me, he wasn't a superstar. He scored twenty

870
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: two points per game this season. Alan Houston is a

871
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: two time though. You know, he's like, that's not really

872
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: a superstar. But guy, he could score that was an

873
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: incredible shooter, and put him in today's game, he'd probably

874
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: be taking like eleven or twelve threes per game. He

875
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: was that great. But yeah, that's where I got. I

876
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: got to I got to I got to the Allan Houston,

877
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: Stephen Marbury, Antoine Jamison, sort of Jamal Mashburn, Jerry Stackhouse

878
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: type level. And so then it's like like, yeah, who's

879
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: that from today's game?

880
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh that love?

881
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: Who's Today's Allen Houston?

882
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: Who is Alan Houston?

883
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? And I was just looking at the name Devin Booker,

884
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 3: but Booker rolled, well that's he's Yeah.

885
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: A lot more All Stars, but that's a good one.

886
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I have I have sort of Mitchell

887
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 3: and Booker. Yeah, those are seventy point guys.

888
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: Tool that's really good. Yeah he's forgotten about now, but yeah,

889
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: and he's got a title.

890
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: See, I think the bar is actually higher. You either

891
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: have to be part of the culture of the NBA,

892
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: that's why whatever is remembered, or you have to be

893
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: the best player on a championship team. I think I

894
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: think you because like Middleton, will be forgotten to some degree.

895
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: Paul Pierce, even though he's a Celtics legend, Yeah, he's

896
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: not going to be named higher than Kevin Garnett, not

897
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: really known in the not part of the culture. Other

898
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: than you know, his his uh notorious video after leaving

899
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: his pans Like, there's not there's not really like a

900
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: you either got to be the number one, or you

901
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: got to have some sort of cultural impact. Yeah, like

902
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: guys like Iverson obviously, Kobe obviously. Yeah, yeah, that's good stuff.

903
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: You consider John Stockton a forgotten player? Yeah, guy leads

904
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: the NBA all time and assists and deals by a massive.

905
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Massive margin, I think, so never.

906
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: Considered in all time greatest point guard conversation dream Team.

907
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, nobody knew who he was in Barcelona.

908
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: He mainly just shows up for bad COVID takes.

909
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Son was kicking around the league having a

910
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: cup of coffee, wasn't he.

911
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's different for us, like Chris Webber has a

912
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: you know, an impact on my brain forever. Yeah, yeah,

913
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: because I lived through it. But we're talking, yeah, twenty

914
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: years ago, why would John Stockton come up other than

915
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: the assists thing and you know, keeps him up there

916
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: right now, but still still yeah, I would consider him forgotten.

917
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: So Chris Paul then Chris Paul tons of accolades, super

918
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: high on all the record boards. Kind of a throw

919
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 2: in in Best point Guard Ever discussions. I think John

920
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 2: Stockton is so I wonder what that will be for

921
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 2: Chris Paul because I feel like Jason Kidd has already

922
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 2: forgotten as a play.

923
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

924
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a name that never comes up in Best

925
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: point Guard Ever discussions, and historically Chris Paul is certainly

926
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: going to be overshadowed by Stephen Curry, the best little

927
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: guard of his generation, four titles, multiple MVPs. I don't know.

928
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: I mean we're sick of so we don't forget this

929
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Yeah, right, we're watching it very single

930
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: day in real play, like twenty years from now.

931
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, yeah, where is Chris Paul's name coming up

932
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: in the Best point Guards of All Times? I mean,

933
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: if he unfortunately doesn't have a ring when it's all

934
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: said and done, it's not looking like he will unless

935
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: he goes somewhere, maybe teams up with somebody.

936
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Speaker 3: I think the first that's part of his career is

937
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: already forgotten to some degree.

938
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree on that.

939
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: When when he was considered the best point guard in

940
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: the game, when he was dual out dueling Darren Williams

941
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: who was there for a year, and in that conversation.

942
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 3: So I totally think. I guess he'll get some they'll

943
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: get some fond memories about Lob City because he was

944
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: the guy throwing the passes in Lob City. There's some there,

945
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: There's there's.

946
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: Something he's gonna he's gonna not be forgotten. He'll go

947
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame.

948
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: And he is.

949
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely he's an elitely player at that level. But yeah,

950
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: twenty years from twenty five years from now, call the

951
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: casual fan. I don't know if they're gonna remember Chris Paul.

952
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna remember Chris Baul out there. You guys are

953
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: sick of well, remember everybody.

954
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: Tracy McGrady started this conversation with Tracy.

955
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Speaker 1: You said Tracy McGrady forgotten. I'm not sure I agree

956
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: with that. Like people, you know one thing to remember

957
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: they remember, Well, I guess it's to Dominique Wilkins. I

958
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: was gonna say they remember points, yes, points above everything.

959
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: But Nick scored a ton of points and.

960
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: He didn't number. He didn't leave the league like McGrady,

961
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 3: though led the league twice.

962
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dominique, I think led the league one today. Oh

963
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: he did for Bradley Beal, probably very trace McGrady ish

964
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: a lot of points, not a lot of postseason success,

965
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: could be a forgotten guy as well.

966
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Lots of time for these guys. Make us remember you man,

967
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: all right, let's take our final break when we come back.

968
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: A few more NBA Reddit threads. I've said this before

969
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. I love this podcast NBA

970
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: Reddit threads. What else you got for us?

971
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: T A couple more here? What's the best current team rivalry?

972
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 3: Not player to player, not which player hates the other player?

973
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: Team rivalry? Do they exist? That's from fifty Aaron.

974
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: What about what about a player to accessory? Excuse me,

975
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez and headbands? He hates possessed headbands. This is

976
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: well timed because I had forgotten about this. But starting

977
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: next week we have NBA Rivals Week. Oh yes, now

978
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: this in the summer that we have classic and budding

979
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: rivalries between teams and players. I guess that'll highlight NBA

980
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: Rivals Week. During the week of January twenty three, we

981
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: got eleven nationally televised games across the four networks. With

982
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: these rival matchups, you want to hear them? Tell me

983
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: if they're a real rival to you? All Right? The

984
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: Bust and Celtics and Miami Heat.

985
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 3: You know, I was going through the current rivalries, and

986
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 3: I think there is some rivaling there.

987
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: So bad.

988
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: There's some rivaling there. Okay. They've matched up a lot

989
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: in the past decade.

990
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the playoffs for Battle of LA, the Clippers

991
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: and Lakers geographically, Yeah, okay, that's true. How about the

992
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets and Philadelphia seventy six ers.

993
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll accept a little spice with regards to the

994
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: trade last year. I think there's still there's certainly a

995
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: rivalry between the Brooklyn Nets players and James Harden.

996
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: Good point.

997
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: We basically our Kyrie Irving called out James Harden saying

998
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: he that Harden was half done on last season, which

999
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: is pretty funny coming from Kyrie y. And also certainly

1000
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy six ers have a rivalry with Ben Simmons.

1001
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: It's all by that, Okay, I'm accepting it that way.

1002
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely some vitriol.

1003
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: There, Okay. I believe this would be my answer to

1004
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: this question. As a current rivalry, The Grizzlies and Warriors.

1005
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: Number one rivalry in the game right now.

1006
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, some real, real hatred between the two teams interesting.

1007
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't think thats a question. Okay, yeah, I don't

1008
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: think they hate each other. I think they respect hating

1009
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: each other. They're like like Draymond Green hates that all

1010
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies talk trash, but he also loves that all

1011
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies talk trash. There's a lot of respect, I

1012
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: feel like between these two teams, But if they meet

1013
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: in a playoff series again, I think that boils over

1014
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: into just straight up hatred.

1015
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Does Draymond not see in the current Grizzlies some similarities

1016
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: to the old God Warriors or when the Warriors were

1017
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: starting their dynasty run?

1018
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I course, Yeah, That's that's why there's that respect level.

1019
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: And uh that's why they were booked on Christmas Day

1020
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 3: against each other for that very reason. Okay, and yeah,

1021
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: they're coming for the Golden State spot. They want it,

1022
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: and that's why a lot of people don't like the Grizzlies,

1023
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: because they have that bravado with the puffy chest, even

1024
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: though they haven't won much yet. So I say yet,

1025
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: because I believe, and how can you not believe? They

1026
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 3: believe in themselves buying it. So yeah, I think they're

1027
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 3: all in the as far as or you're going through

1028
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: more of the games.

1029
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean some of them get they get really funny

1030
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: here and yeah, keep going because I know the Bulls

1031
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: are on here and it's a nasty rivalry the Bulls Hornets.

1032
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah shaw oh because of Michael Jordan, because he's the

1033
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: owner of the one franchise he used to play for

1034
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: the other.

1035
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: Maybe he's the reason they play. I thought I thought

1036
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: the reason was sibling rivalry, Lonzo versus LaMelo.

1037
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: Of course Lonzo I hadn't thought about that. Yeah, that

1038
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: makes more sense.

1039
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: So I guess then, doesn't K kind of those players

1040
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: were out when this schedule was announced, so they're like,

1041
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe these two teams will rival up

1042
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: against each other. Or it could be from that famous

1043
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: scene in the Last Dance where Michael Jordan is just

1044
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: so mad that bj Armstrong.

1045
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: Armstrong that I don't know if that game's in Chicago

1046
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: or Charlotte, but they should give the fans all bats. Yeah, yeah,

1047
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: that's a weird one. Okay, how about how about the

1048
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: Maverick Suns. Yeah? Are we there yet as a rivalry

1049
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: between these two teams?

1050
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean, rivalry is almost not the right word for it.

1051
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: No, I don't know.

1052
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what you call it. It's just it's

1053
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: interesting to see him play against each other.

1054
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a revenge game. Yeah. I wouldn't elevate it

1055
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: to the point of rivalry. I think that's too hot.

1056
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the Eastern Conference matchups, for

1057
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: lack of a better words, aren't rivalries either. I feel

1058
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: like the Eastern Conference is lacking. Okay, there's more in

1059
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: the West.

1060
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: Here's one. I think I can understand what the schedule

1061
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: makers were at least thinking here Grizzlies Wolves. I think

1062
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: they were thinking, you know.

1063
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: They have two games.

1064
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, they haven't even been around all that long.

1065
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: They're thinking they play a pretty pretty uh entertaining playoff series.

1066
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: These are two young teams with young superstars, and like,

1067
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: maybe that will continue. Obviously, the Wolves make a big

1068
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: trade and hasn't gone really according to plan as of yet.

1069
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: But I get the thinking, sure, yeah, I.

1070
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: Think spicy playoff series last year? Right, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1071
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: Raptors Warriors, that is a that's what.

1072
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Yes, they played in the finals. They played twice a year.

1073
00:52:54,360 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: No, I mean no, for a year after the after

1074
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: the finals, it kind of was.

1075
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: But I guess how about the Nuggets Sixers Nuggets, I mean.

1076
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: That's that's more player versus place teams.

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00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then another obviously based on geography nix nets geography,

1078
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: no one considers the real rivalry both decent teams right now. Yeah,

1079
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: and then final one one of the most epic rivalries

1080
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: in all of sports history wise Lakers Celtics, I.

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00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: Mean classic, classic, can't argue with that one.

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00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: History Okay, good so not bad.

1083
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 2: Like legit, right. I thought it was gonna be way worse.

1084
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I think if you were flexing a game into there.

1085
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 3: Unfortunately Devin Booker's hurt, but you'd throw Sons Pelicans in there.

1086
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: They do not like each other. They've had four games

1087
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: this season. They had the Zion Williamson dunk at the

1088
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 3: end of the game when time it expired. Then Devin

1089
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 3: Booker comes back with the fifty seven fifty eight. It

1090
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 3: was something something Large did the same thing at the

1091
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: end of the game because he was pissed the game

1092
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: was over, and he shot a three from mid court. Essentially,

1093
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: you know inside mid court they don't like each other

1094
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 3: and they're both it's the Sun's just trying to push

1095
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: off a young team like the or fend off a

1096
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: young team like the Grizzlies going at the Warriors kind

1097
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: of thing. So that's a good one. I got Clippers

1098
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: maps too, I got that just for the Luca.

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00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just destroys them. Yeah.

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00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they hate each other.

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00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, they play entertaining games. Yeah, there's no doubt aout

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00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: that any other ones.

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00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it Pelicans versus Sons is a

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00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 2: really good one. But I think that's current. Yeah, that's

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00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: that's current. But yeah, no, I think they did a

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00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: fairly good job. Like I don't know, I'm like, I'm

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00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: like letting bulls rivals. I'm like, Bulls Necks ain't the

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00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: nineties anymore.

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00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: No, Unfortunately, Celtics Bucks is okay.

1110
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: M too much respect, a lot of respect.

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00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: They like each other. Yeah, it's like the Bucks don't

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00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 3: have a rival. That's kind of odd. Why wouldn't the

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00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 3: the The Bucks are championship team, they're at the top

1114
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 3: every year, but they don't really have a rival. Something

1115
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: something up with the East, you know. Yeah, maybe it's

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00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: because they're too respectful. Maybe it's like the Spurs. Did

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00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: they ever have a rival?

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00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: The Bucks are just always like play wrestling with each

1119
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: other in the back exactly like they have great vibes.

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00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: Like even watching them play the Raptors last night, their

1121
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: bench vibes are underrated I think overall in the league,

1122
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: and especially with Joannis was sitting in that game, so

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00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing, so he's he's fun with his brother.

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00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: Of course he's always standing up and barking away. But Javon, Carter, Bochamp,

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00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: they get into it like they're pretty they're they're pretty

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Speaker 1: fun even like uh, Drew Haliday hit a three and

1127
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: he dropped the Wesley Matthews little bow and arrow there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as Captain Jazz says here in the stream, team

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00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: Giannis is too likable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So it's I mean sort of like Curry

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00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: then too. Where's Curry disliked more on the Warriors?

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00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: I think Curry has disliked more because he talks trash

1133
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: more and celebrates and people honestly probably think they can

1134
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: push around Steph Curry, which then gets Draymond into the

1135
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: mix to fight back for his guy, which is how

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00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: a lot of these rivalries are built. Ain't nobody trying

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00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: to push around Jannis and Brook Lopez. So a little

1138
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: bit of a shortcoming for the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

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00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: I would say they need to have more rivals. Joel

1140
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: Embiid great player, physical player, he should start being meaner.

1141
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of mean in general to begin with,

1142
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: but he should have more rivals just that aren't trade based.

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: I think.

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00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that rivalry, that trade based rivalry with the

1145
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets would have been better if the Sixers showed

1146
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: up in that game in March, right. The Nets ran

1147
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: them off the tables March tenth, that game right after

1148
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: they traded that they punked unfortunately in that one.

1149
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: So I agree, Who is who's our best current podcast rival?

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 3: Great question? And everybody's so nice these days.

1151
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: All right, I don't even know, let us know in

1152
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: the stream team podcast used to be.

1153
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: But I like, yeah, we got we gotta have a

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00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: good one. There's gotta be a good team too, you know, Yeah, Tam, Yeah,

1156
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 1: problem is I like a lot of each other NBA

1157
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: podcast You're right, but you tell us.

1158
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: Like like an Anchorman scenario, Yeah in the streets, Yeah, yeah, cool,

1159
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: exactly cool?

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00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: Who'll we battling?

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00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: All right? Last one here, which top seventy five player

1162
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: could you beat one on one today. Yeah. USh. It

1163
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: basically was a Reddit threat thrown out to everybody who

1164
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 3: could you be from the top seventy five? And this

1165
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: is from yeah reaps in our absent our E A

1166
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 3: P S E. I'm spelling? Yeah? Sure, all right?

1167
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: Which have you taken on within the the original post?

1168
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: I think what got a lot of people fired up

1169
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: in the comment section here because I actually did a

1170
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: hilarious deep dive on this one and I was laughing

1171
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: for like an hour straight last night. The responses to

1172
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: people saying about particular top seventy five players that they

1173
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: could or couldn't be. Uh. The op said, I think

1174
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: I could take Kareem abdul Jabbar, and age is a

1175
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: huge part of this, but a lot of people are like, no,

1176
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: you couldn't. Kareem is seven foot two, I mean can

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00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: still walk and move and like he is gonna like

1178
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: skyhook in a death shoot over every single time, which

1179
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: is like fair. I mean, despite being an older man,

1180
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: like would kick our ass right now? No, I kicked

1181
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: my ass kick I think you kick all of our us, don't.

1182
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: Can anybody make the case that they would beat Kareem

1183
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: abd Does it make it, take it or not. He

1184
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: can he can never get the ball.

1185
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't think even until you're what do you mean

1186
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: you could never get them.

1187
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: You'd have to score every time you touched them.

1188
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think you're gonna be as good

1189
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: as an NBA player, one of the greatest players the

1190
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: whole time at scoring at a at a clip. That's

1191
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: going to uh.

1192
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Be to fly by him.

1193
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, take off the dribble, the hit jump shots.

1194
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: He's going to stand near the rim and you're just

1195
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: gonna have to hit a jumper from the freedom.

1196
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna miss. At some point.

1197
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna not score. So I thought that was very funny.

1198
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 3: He would hook me to death. And speaking of death,

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00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: the only player that I would beat are the dead

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: ones among the top seventy five.

1201
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: You know, think it'd be I would be. I was

1202
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: the oldest man alive on the top seventy five.

1203
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: The oldest one I saw was Bob Coosey ninety four

1204
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: years old.

1205
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: Still okay, oh six foot one, Oh yeah, we were

1206
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: taking we're taking cups.

1207
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: Smack. Your name is Bob. It ain't going well for

1208
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: you against me. Bob Pettitt, ninety years old, I'll take.

1209
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: Him a little bigger. But yeah, okay, yep, yeah, but he.

1210
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: Might be a the biggest, the biggest opposite goal to

1211
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: my Bob Championship Bob mcadow. He's in his seventies and

1212
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: he's big and muscular. Yeah, a little worried about Macadow

1213
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: might be a MACA don't if you ask to be

1214
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: best player. I think I could beat though Bill Walton.

1215
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: Why he doesn't move very well. Yeah, yeah, that's that's

1216
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: the main reason. Maybe I could distract him by bringing

1217
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: up a Grateful Dead song from fifty years ago.

1218
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: I liked uh Michael's secret stuff again in the thread,

1219
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: sort of thinking next level galaxy brain thinking here. He said, uh,

1220
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: he could beat Kawhi one on one because he would

1221
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: challenge him on a load management day and he would

1222
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: have to forfeit, just get get him in a back

1223
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: to back situation, not feeling all that well, feeling one

1224
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy, you just have to sit and you

1225
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: could win. Eleven sip.

1226
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 3: There was a good reply to that that Kawhi would

1227
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: beat you from.

1228
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: He probably beat you. Yeah, yeah, just grab the ball

1229
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: to the bench.

1230
01:00:59,240 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 3: Uh.

1231
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: That was a fun one.

1232
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: Good.

1233
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: I highly recommend going down the rabbit hole out of

1234
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: the responses and just people debating whether they could be

1235
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: the greatest players of all time, a large part being

1236
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: because they're old. That's the only is that we're talking

1237
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: in their primes. I think we're going, oh in seventy

1238
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: six Yeah, yeah.

1239
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, seventy six players, six players I did for

1240
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: Sometimes I forget that Kauhi is on that list.

1241
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah I know. I said that the other day on

1242
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: a podcast like he's Kawi is going to have the

1243
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: strangest career when it's all said done. But he's on there,

1244
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: and uh, you'll get just that.

1245
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: That's all right. He deserves to be there. Seven times

1246
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: All Defense, Kawhi five, All Star five, All NBA two times.

1247
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: It's more. I guess people are was ad deserving, was

1248
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: Dame deserving? Over over other players? Yeah? All right, fun

1249
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: one down with there? Which top seventy five player could

1250
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: you beat one on one today? Let us know, as

1251
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: you are right down the stream team who you're taking

1252
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: and what's your reasoning? All right? Any other ones?

1253
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: People are saying Jerry West, no way, man, he's eighty four.

1254
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: But I didn't have Jerry West on my list. I

1255
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: think he will be too ornery. Yeah, and he's probably

1256
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: still got the jumper. That's why. That's how honestly, I'm like,

1257
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: I want to pick big old guys.

1258
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there ain't.

1259
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: No way they can move like I do right right,

1260
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: and I don't move that well, I mean move okay.

1261
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: Jerry west would never lose. That's the way.

1262
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: That's like, despite his age. Like it's like saying you're

1263
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: gonna stip into the squared circle and beat Rick Flair.

1264
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're not right. They're gonna do everything

1265
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: they can to win that. They're gonna fight dirty, They're

1266
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 1: gonna play dirty. Jerry west Man, he's gonna yeah.

1267
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: No, he's angry, he's feisty.

1268
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: Those are the ten answers we want to hear. Let's

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01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: call it there. Another fun NBA Reddit podcast. If you

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Speaker 1: Tickets available, It's in the YouTube descriptions in the podcast

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Speaker 1: podcast description. If you want to get yourself a ticket,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow live here in the Classic Factory

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Speaker 1: at TENNEM Eastern. And oh yeah, tonight playback watch party

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Speaker 1: will start with the Hawks Mavericks games and then we'll

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Speaker 1: bounce around. So join us tonight again. That link also

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Speaker 1: in the description. Everything you need to know is in

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Speaker 1: that description. Okay, Clipper bros, you.

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Speaker 2: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember there are booths available.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just one booth, because I just ordered one.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to be sitting in a booth. You guys

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Speaker 3: do the show. I'm gonna watch from a booth. Wow,

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Speaker 3: it looks nice and plush.

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Speaker 1: You looked it up. Is it a nice Booth.

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Speaker 3: Standard Calvin Forgotten Player, Calvin Booth, Yeah, all right, advice

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Speaker 3: to day people, but