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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio tonight.

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Speaker 2: Another great friend of mine, Jeremiah Horseman, we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's out there in Sedona. He's looking up

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Speaker 2: all the time, he is checking out all the areas.

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Speaker 2: I was out with him. It was almost last year

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Speaker 2: this time in about a month, right, It was in

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Speaker 2: December of last year with you guys, and you guys

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Speaker 2: were showing me everything. We got to see some of

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Speaker 2: the UFOs that you're talking about with Melinda. We were

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Speaker 2: on Bradshaw Ranch with Tom Dongo and we all had

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Speaker 2: our own experience at Bradshaw Ranch where something we were

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah backed me up on this. We were totally the

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Speaker 2: Scooby Doo gang. All three were standing inside the ranch

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Speaker 2: right and as we were doing that, something ran up

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Speaker 2: to the side of that house and beat up on

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Speaker 2: the side of the house and then came around the

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Speaker 2: front part where the door was, and we didn't see it.

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Speaker 2: We didn't see it, but the door creaked just like

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Speaker 2: the best haunted house creak ever in the world. And

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Speaker 2: then it did it again, and we were looking right

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Speaker 2: at the door, which had window glass panes, and we

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Speaker 2: didn't see anything.

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Speaker 3: That that particular night. Describing it as the Scooby Doo

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Speaker 3: Gang is definitely the best way to put it. We

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Speaker 3: were all kind of huddled together and hunched down, and

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Speaker 3: it shadowed like a beefy big hand pounding on the

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Speaker 3: walls outside and not at human level. It was up

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Speaker 3: higher on the yes, and I remember when the door

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Speaker 3: creaked open, it was like a sound bite from a

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Speaker 3: Hollywood fifties movie of a haunted house door opening. It

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Speaker 3: was creaking as open. I have never seen that before.

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Speaker 3: We've been investigating that ranch for twelve years and we're

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Speaker 3: out there at least once, sometimes twice a week. I've

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Speaker 3: never seen that door move like that without an actual

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Speaker 3: pair of hands pushing it. So that was a hot

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Speaker 3: night to be out there, and in a good night

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Speaker 3: to especially to have you out there so you get

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Speaker 3: experience it too.

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Speaker 2: That was so great. I think it was one of

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Speaker 2: I absolutely think it was a big foot. I totally

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Speaker 2: think it was a big foot, but I think it was.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about if you attract them anyway,

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Speaker 2: they already know who you are, they know you're coming,

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Speaker 2: they know everything about you. So to me, I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of times are like, Hey, my friends in

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Speaker 2: Alabama and my friends in Colorado, that's Connie. They know, hey,

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Speaker 2: we've heard about you know what.

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Speaker 3: They know who's there, and sometimes you know who's coming

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Speaker 3: even before you get there. These creatures are on such

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Speaker 3: a different level, and it's finally starting to come out

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Speaker 3: with a lot of people that investigate the big boot creatures.

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Speaker 3: And it still causes controversy, of course, because there's still

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Speaker 3: people out there that want to see them as a

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Speaker 3: simplistic extension of the ape or a long while. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it's a lot more than that.

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Speaker 2: It's way different than that, way different. So let's go

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Speaker 2: to the plazama UFOs, because when I was on that

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Speaker 2: last trip last year, we were looking at that with Melenda, right,

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Speaker 2: we were looking we saw some of those in that

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Speaker 2: brief time we were there. Do you believe the plasma

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Speaker 2: UFOs are that you're seeing? Are they man made? Are

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Speaker 2: they man flown? Are they something other than that?

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Speaker 3: That's the best question of the day. And we now

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Speaker 3: do have the answer definitively. And I can't go into

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Speaker 3: exactly why we know. That's like to come out a

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Speaker 3: little bit later because of the ongoing investigation. But I

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Speaker 3: can say that with the number of whistleblowers that we've

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Speaker 3: got and a number of people that are working on

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Speaker 3: the team, the plasma craft seems to be one of

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Speaker 3: the main things that is being worked on by a

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Speaker 3: certain military contracted firm, which is the most well known

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Speaker 3: firms that make experimental aircraft. And I could I'll say

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Speaker 3: it that way with all that and actually mentioning their name,

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Speaker 3: and I think most people will know ex athlete what

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about when I say it, And that is

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Speaker 3: one of the firms that is located in this area,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's probably the chief firm that's working

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Speaker 3: are there are support facilities working with them underground. Now

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Speaker 3: to go back not even a week ago, December twentieth,

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Speaker 2: Say firms, are you talking those three.

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Speaker 3: We were driving away.

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Speaker 2: Wheremiah Jeremiah Jeremiah, Just real quick before you get into that,

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Speaker 2: when you say the firms, are you talking the CIA

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Speaker 2: N say the three how do you say it? The

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Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, now what you're talking about even more than that,

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Speaker 3: these these firms where the government got tricky or I

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Speaker 3: should say, anybody yet the Department of Defense got tricky

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Speaker 3: was actually downsizing. So we're talking about post World War two,

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Speaker 3: Uh So what they did and a lot of people

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Speaker 3: because those firms have actually been uh drunken or poisoned

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Speaker 3: much power. Uh. They wielded all in the name of

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Speaker 3: their way for whatever they want to do. These are

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Speaker 3: the types are firms that are out there, including a

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Speaker 3: a number of the firms that are out there, and

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Speaker 3: fear that these people that are brave enough to come forward,

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Speaker 3: and a few of them came forward because of listening

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Speaker 3: to your show, Connie. So that's how crucial you have

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Speaker 3: investigative efforts from people. The show itself is because it's

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Speaker 3: bringing other people out who want to tell the truth.

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Speaker 3: In the case of the these firms that are out there,

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Speaker 3: one of the chief forms of propulsion that seems to

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Speaker 3: be admitted by this particular firm that works on in

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Speaker 3: aeronautics specifically is plasma driven craft. So now to get

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Speaker 3: to quickly about the plasma. If you look at the

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Speaker 3: we were looking west from the Sycamore Gap, which is

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Speaker 3: We hadn't been out there before to watch for them.

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Speaker 3: But sure enough, almost right on time, we had set

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Speaker 3: in pairs, which they so often do. Now when they

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Speaker 3: is definitely plasma. And you know how we know. They said,

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Speaker 3: plasma changes colors because of photons. The photons which were

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Speaker 3: that's actually considered cool. So they've just taken off when

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Speaker 3: they're rising up from their launch sites, which is these

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Speaker 3: But the reddish shoe or the you've heard me say before,

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Speaker 3: the amber colors you like when you were here watching

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Speaker 3: The red issue is most common, so that's what most

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Speaker 3: people are seeing the ambersview. That's actually cool temperatures for

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Speaker 3: look like the sun. Now, these people that are photographing

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Speaker 3: And that's because it's plasma. So the plasma itself when

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Speaker 3: So you'll see in the photographs that I sent, which

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Speaker 3: about seven thousand degrees or several thousand degrees celsius. When

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Speaker 3: a long period of time. Now, if we go into

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Speaker 3: The majority, about ninety percent or more, are actually advanced

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Speaker 3: where I've went, and where I've been investigating for the

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Speaker 3: past twelve years, and I asked him, simply, can you

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Speaker 3: help me out. I'm working on an investigation. It's a collaboration.

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Speaker 3: This is what we're seeing. We are quite certain that

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Speaker 3: that this is what this is? The gentleman was very kind.

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Speaker 3: He got back to me when I didn't think he would.

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Speaker 3: He said, give me about a month and I'll get

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Speaker 3: back to you. And I'm thinking of myself, of course,

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Speaker 3: and I just gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be yeah, right, yeah, you know, government man.

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Speaker 3: Why should you bother talking to some jump in Sodona?

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Speaker 3: Exactly almost exactly four weeks and he said a very

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Speaker 2: Now was he saying that as a matter of fact, casually,

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Speaker 3: It was just it was actually a very matter of

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Speaker 3: And it may include some of which uh we're talking

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Speaker 2: The next two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Again in the next two weeks, in the next two weeks.

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Speaker 2: At the we've been hearing this all our life, right,

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Speaker 3: Been hearing that a long time. And in most cases

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