Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It's wedding season. Welcome to
Speaker 1: another addition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis. I'm joined in a room filled with heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Roseenhal. What is up? Boy?
Speaker 1: It is indeed wedding season. So you don't usually see
Speaker 1: those words sharing real estate together? No you don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's wedding season. Byers. Get ready. It's so much work
Speaker 1: for Erica right out of the gate. Is it necessary?
Speaker 1: Just like you and your bros. Let's get together from
Speaker 1: raucous wedding season. Um, there's a movie about that once. Um.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Friday edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're all excited. Chris Wessling is getting married a week
Speaker 1: from sun Day, and uh, he's not sleeping right now,
Speaker 1: and he says there's other reasons why. But he's allowed
Speaker 1: west You're allowed to say, Yeah, I got some butterflies,
Speaker 1: some nervous energy in my system that could be contributing
Speaker 1: to some sleepless nights maybe a little bit. Honestly, this
Speaker 1: is one of the benefits of um getting married at
Speaker 1: an older point in my life that I don't really
Speaker 1: have butterflies. I know I'm marrying the right person. I
Speaker 1: know I'm marrying her for the right reason, so I'm
Speaker 1: not nervous about that. And we're gonna have a very
Speaker 1: special together for like two years, and we went through
Speaker 1: cancer together, so I mean it's all good points. We'll
Speaker 1: have a very special guest at the end of the
Speaker 1: show some of that who's prominently connected to the wedding,
Speaker 1: the mayor of TYPEE. I'll just say it's definitely not David.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not David Eally, you can that's not necessary.
Speaker 1: David davially was so far outside the possibility of being
Speaker 1: invited that we even forgot about the bit it just
Speaker 1: about being in the in the wedding party. Yeah, accurate.
Speaker 1: If we didn't have like a strict limit on the
Speaker 1: capacity of the hall, we could have invited up when
Speaker 1: he would have been on that. I haven't forgotten about it.
Speaker 1: I've been living off those winnings when you were talking
Speaker 1: about as a best man. When I put it down
Speaker 1: plus three, he's not even getting invited to the wedding.
Speaker 1: Been coasting off those The wedding is on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: really is making Lakeisha fly back on Monday morning at
Speaker 1: four am two for her news shifts. So I don't
Speaker 1: think she he does. I guess he got even that's
Speaker 1: a little petty, but he did what he did, and
Speaker 1: he you know, and by it, I'm sure. Uh. Coming
Speaker 1: up on today's show, speaking of weddings, marriages, Uh, in
Speaker 1: the NFL marriage prospects for NFL couples, will go through
Speaker 1: the league and talk about some unions and whether they're
Speaker 1: built to last or in deep trouble. We'll do some news, um.
Speaker 1: But before that one one other quick bit of housekeeping
Speaker 1: circling back to Monday show. Um. Greg, of course, it
Speaker 1: comes up on the show that the Delaware tapes, and
Speaker 1: we said, hey, what if we did some type of
Speaker 1: you know, crowdfunding um to to get that tape on
Speaker 1: our show? You declined it as is your right. Um.
Speaker 1: But then someone on Twitter hit me up, this guy
Speaker 1: John sebast Jean and wrote, regarding that Delaware tape, could
Speaker 1: we give money to a charity organization selected by Greg
Speaker 1: in exchange for the release of the tape? So how
Speaker 1: about something that doesn't line in your pockets but helps
Speaker 1: a good cause, like say cancer research or whatever. Greg
Speaker 1: your thoughts. I mean, you're putting me in a tough
Speaker 1: spot here. I'll think about it. I don't know. I'd
Speaker 1: rather raise it for some other reason. I mean, why
Speaker 1: don't we just raise it then if we're doing it
Speaker 1: out of the goodness of our hearts, not cancer is
Speaker 1: not good enough for you. No, I mean cancer could be.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. We'll just do with the tapes.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to be a good person. Don't
Speaker 1: expect something in return, just do Yeah, but we want
Speaker 1: the tapes though. It's just something to think about. Okay, Greg,
Speaker 1: then think about I'll bet I'm so hungry. We need
Speaker 1: you help. We need this. Come on, Glegg, we are
Speaker 1: in the future. Would you be my dad? So these
Speaker 1: are your kids cancer, it's a dead We must listen
Speaker 1: to Dela Whale. Do it for us. We need you help, Greg,
Speaker 1: We Dela Whale. We need to unt Della Whale. It's
Speaker 1: up to you. It really talks at the old heartstrings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does. I feel bad. All right. All the kids
Speaker 1: who actually have cancer out there, what is this cancer thing?
Speaker 1: There's no cancer. They're just kids that need help. Enough
Speaker 1: with the cancer. Straw Man. This is what this is
Speaker 1: about the tapes. I didn't know Jack was such a fan. Jack,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about now. I simply
Speaker 1: brought up the cancer is one, got it, got it,
Speaker 1: But there's so many different causes. There's children that need
Speaker 1: your help, as you just heard. Just something that's something
Speaker 1: to think about. It take It takes a lot to
Speaker 1: crack my ice cold heart, but those kids. When would
Speaker 1: there be a fair time to circle back on this,
Speaker 1: because we really do want to be fair to you,
Speaker 1: because it's you know, tapping into your past twenty minutes
Speaker 1: and the news. Yeah, let's let it ride out. Maybe
Speaker 1: well everyone will just forget about it. Yeah. I love
Speaker 1: that you're clearly uncomfortable over this. I mean, how are
Speaker 1: you even transfer the who even knows? I gotta like
Speaker 1: that we're getting into technical I have to even assume
Speaker 1: I have them. But I think I think I knew something,
Speaker 1: all right. That's progress in itself right there. Let's do
Speaker 1: some news to the Seattle Seahawks. It's the end of
Speaker 1: an era the team and outs Thursday they're terminating the
Speaker 1: contracts of both Doug Baldwin, their top wide receiver, and
Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor, the standout safety um This comes after word
Speaker 1: had leaked out about Doug Baldwin potentially looking to retire.
Speaker 1: He's undergone three surgeries since the end of the two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen season, the Ladies latest one of sports herney
Speaker 1: operation that was going to sideline him up to two
Speaker 1: months um and with Chancellor, it was a neck injury
Speaker 1: that he didn't play last year. So neither of these
Speaker 1: is necessarily surprised, but it is now official that Seattle's
Speaker 1: moving on and Greg, both of these guys were central
Speaker 1: figure is and the greatest era of Seahawk history. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. And the Baldwin news, you know,
Speaker 1: stands out even though we didn't know for you know,
Speaker 1: we knew that there was a chance that he was retiring.
Speaker 1: To see the finality of this that they're releasing him.
Speaker 1: And I think the reason is financially, Uh, he can
Speaker 1: actually collect you know, more on insurance and there there's
Speaker 1: kind of reasons to why they're not keeping him on
Speaker 1: the roster. That it's over is one of the biggest
Speaker 1: stories of the off season to me. He's thirty years old,
Speaker 1: I mean, Chancellor, it's just a paperwork thing. We've known
Speaker 1: he's gone for a while, but Baldwin, he was still
Speaker 1: their best receiver when he played and when he was
Speaker 1: finally kind of healthy last year, And to lose him
Speaker 1: in an offense that already UH struggled to have consistent
Speaker 1: receiving talent. Tyler Lockett was great last year, but that's
Speaker 1: the first season he's ever really stayed healthy and consistent
Speaker 1: like that throughout the whole season and then after that.
Speaker 1: So the number one guy, it's just a bunch of
Speaker 1: question mark. So losing Baldwin to me, really hurts a
Speaker 1: team that was in the playoffs a year ago. I
Speaker 1: think he's the best slot receiver of the past five years.
Speaker 1: Um Over Larry Fitzgerald, over Julian Edelman, over Golden Tate,
Speaker 1: over Jarvis Landry. I think Doug Baldwin's the choice, and
Speaker 1: he and Cam Chancellor are both also indicative. I think
Speaker 1: of that Seahawks, that group, their extraordinary pride, mental toughness,
Speaker 1: accountability to each other, and the front office's ability to
Speaker 1: find talent everywhere. There was a period where they were
Speaker 1: on this show. I remember we we might have even
Speaker 1: done a midweek sort of surprise show because the Seahawks
Speaker 1: were resigning. You know, Richard Sherman, resigning Earl Thomas and
Speaker 1: resigning all the drafted talent that they had built in house,
Speaker 1: and now it's all gone. And you look at the
Speaker 1: fact that kJ Wright, with the departure of Doug Baldwiness
Speaker 1: now their longest tenured Seahawk on the team. And this
Speaker 1: is a team that last year led the league in rushing.
Speaker 1: Not a huge shock under Brian Schottenheimer. But they're a
Speaker 1: great candidate, I don't know great, it's not the right word,
Speaker 1: but a strong candidate to do it again. Because you're right,
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot left. I think they went
Speaker 1: into the draft obviously knowing this was a clear option.
Speaker 1: That's why you get DK Metcap, I like David Moore,
Speaker 1: but there but there is a lot of question marks.
Speaker 1: Like you said, well, Baldwin was one of those guys
Speaker 1: that you know, kids being born right now into Seahawks
Speaker 1: families who uh, you know are gonna look back at
Speaker 1: his numbers and probably not kids are on your mind.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, yes, they're not gonna understand what
Speaker 1: Baldwin meant kind of to them, and there they'll have
Speaker 1: their parents because the Seahawks fans, you know, if they
Speaker 1: love anything, they love to talk about the Seahawks and
Speaker 1: and to me, Baldwin is a great Seahawk. Like he
Speaker 1: someone I read a fan that made the case he's
Speaker 1: the second best sauk receiver of all time and is
Speaker 1: stats just sort of don't you do him justice? He
Speaker 1: was a guy that if you did. And this was
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I think Danny Kelly sent it out like
Speaker 1: a lot of teams would try zero coverage against them,
Speaker 1: believing that none of their receivers could really beat one
Speaker 1: on one, and Baldwin would always beat him deep. I mean,
Speaker 1: he made a lot of plays down the field for
Speaker 1: a guy that was known as a slot guy. She
Speaker 1: reported that Thursday's releases likely the end of the road
Speaker 1: for Baldwin solely due to the health issues. So I
Speaker 1: guess it's not completely impossible that he pops up again.
Speaker 1: He's not an old guy. I think he's thirty years old. Um,
Speaker 1: maybe he's feeling a lot better next year, who knows,
Speaker 1: but um, as of right now, it looks like he
Speaker 1: will not be in the picture in the NFL in
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, and maybe for good. Uh. That is
Speaker 1: not the only big Seahawks news However, Uh, they added
Speaker 1: a player uh this week, Ziggy Adza, who has founded
Speaker 1: out a new home in Seattle. He was one of
Speaker 1: those semi prominent free agents that had not signed a deal,
Speaker 1: and now that uh compensatory pick window is closed, he
Speaker 1: makes the deal with the Seahawks. Base value of nine
Speaker 1: million could reach up to twelve point seven five million
Speaker 1: with incentives. Rap Sheet reported six million guarantees. Uh. So
Speaker 1: you know, good money for a deal that you're signing
Speaker 1: uh almost in the middle of May. For Ziggy, he's
Speaker 1: been beset by health issues during his career. Uh spent
Speaker 1: with a lion ends. But he's also a guy mark
Speaker 1: when it has a history of an ability to get
Speaker 1: to the quarterback and make plays when healthy, and Seattle
Speaker 1: is hoping to get that version of Anso. Yeah, Dan,
Speaker 1: we were talking the other day that we we are
Speaker 1: of the group that believes he might secretly be forty
Speaker 1: seven years old, because it's un it's undetermined how old
Speaker 1: he actually is. We just don't know. He entered the
Speaker 1: league with Um Gray in his well back in the
Speaker 1: day when the draft was in New York. Um. And
Speaker 1: it's a damn shame that Dolan ruined that I think
Speaker 1: I've shared my feelings like doubt though I think nice
Speaker 1: it has. But I have personal reasons why I wished
Speaker 1: to the state of New York anyway, but part of
Speaker 1: it was and we would use to travel on the
Speaker 1: draft and cover all the hooplah before Mark and I
Speaker 1: a couple of times went down to this park uh
Speaker 1: down in Lower Manhattan where the rookies would be playing
Speaker 1: with Greg the kids children play sixty play sixty event
Speaker 1: they should be outside, not listening to old lousy tapes
Speaker 1: of mid nineties wannabes. And Ziggianza was there and he
Speaker 1: looked like an older man then and he was incoming
Speaker 1: rookie class, but it fills in need. I thought he
Speaker 1: was maybe gonna go to the Ravens because they were
Speaker 1: zoning in. But Seattle and the Bills too, so that
Speaker 1: was good little came in and snatched. That's good money.
Speaker 1: And it's one of the reasons why the Frank Clark trade,
Speaker 1: you know, helped them out. They're eating a lot of
Speaker 1: money with Doug Baldwin and Chancellor by the way, sixteen
Speaker 1: million dollars on the cap for those two guys, but
Speaker 1: you still saved a little bit by getting ridden by
Speaker 1: cutting Baldwin, and you saved a lot by not keeping
Speaker 1: Clark on the on the team. And if you get
Speaker 1: five snaps from Ziggianza, then you're happy that that's the max.
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't played more than five fifty I
Speaker 1: believe since, so even if he is fully healthy, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're only going to play him thirty forty snaps
Speaker 1: a game. But he's a good I mean, he's their
Speaker 1: best defensive end. Now. I wouldn't want to be on
Speaker 1: a I wouldn't want my team to have ziggy Onza
Speaker 1: as my top guy with nothing, very little, but for
Speaker 1: this price, it's still great for because they didn't have
Speaker 1: anything other other other options. Uh. He's turning thirty later
Speaker 1: this month. He had fourteen and a half sacks um
Speaker 1: in the two thousand fifteen season. Last year he just
Speaker 1: played seven games two sacks. So, yes, he hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to stay healthy, but it is there's some potential
Speaker 1: big upside there for the Seahawks. Moving on the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: they have an issue because Jackson there. Linebacker Telvin Smith
Speaker 1: took to his Instagram page on Thursday dropped a bombshell
Speaker 1: announced he's stepping away from football for the two thousand
Speaker 1: nineteen season, and the message sent out to his followers,
Speaker 1: he wrote, it was said to me from a great
Speaker 1: coach that in order for the man to be his best,
Speaker 1: he must get his world in order. At this time,
Speaker 1: I must take time away from the game and get
Speaker 1: my world in order. I must give this time back
Speaker 1: to myself, my family, and my health. I appreciate all
Speaker 1: the sport I will and will not get. I just
Speaker 1: ask you' all respect my decision to not play football
Speaker 1: this season. That is a bombshell, uh for a team
Speaker 1: because Smith is a big part of their day. It's
Speaker 1: not just their leading tackler. Bobby Wagner, Luke Kickley, and
Speaker 1: Lavonte David are the only players in the NFL with
Speaker 1: more tackles over the last five years. Sort of reminds
Speaker 1: me of um Jason Worlds Steelers linebacker who walked away
Speaker 1: from a big pay day a few years ago. Anthony Davis,
Speaker 1: the forty Niners right tackle who applied for reinstatement recently
Speaker 1: after sitting out a few years. You see more of
Speaker 1: this now where players are willing to walk away to
Speaker 1: address whatever is going on with their lives. Instead of
Speaker 1: playing football for a while, and this one's a mystery.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars set on Friday at their rookie minicamp that
Speaker 1: they learned about uh Telvin Smith walking away as the
Speaker 1: rest of the public did when he posted on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and they have not really heard from him, according to
Speaker 1: reports all offseason about what is his issue. Some people
Speaker 1: thought it was his contract. He hasn't been really in
Speaker 1: touch with the team, so it's a miss three. You
Speaker 1: worry about what it could be, and I don't know you.
Speaker 1: It's it's an open story to me. Yes, he's he
Speaker 1: says he's sitting out this season, but it feels like
Speaker 1: it's not the last we're gonna hear of this story.
Speaker 1: The thing I found odd was, I mean, it's one
Speaker 1: thing who knows what the issue is, but that he
Speaker 1: was unreachable. That they tried to multiple people from the
Speaker 1: team while you're under contract and you're part of the
Speaker 1: major plans of the defense heading to this season. That
Speaker 1: they've tried multiple times to reach you and you're unreachable.
Speaker 1: That tells me it has to do with him potentially
Speaker 1: more than someone in his orbit. But we don't know.
Speaker 1: To me that you look at him his two thousand
Speaker 1: and seventeen season was dominant and he was a huge
Speaker 1: part of the defense. I remember being in London to
Speaker 1: watch the Jags Bills game, and well, it was an assignment,
Speaker 1: so I guess it's it's somewhat something of a brag.
Speaker 1: But when you're when you're watching these games in person,
Speaker 1: we've all seen this. You see stuff that you just
Speaker 1: wouldn't see otherwise. His speed man, that guy, and there's
Speaker 1: a reason that he had the pick six is that
Speaker 1: he had in the interceptions because he used that speed
Speaker 1: very well. They're gonna miss him. I realized this, and
Speaker 1: I should know going through the projected starters uh series
Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com this week, NFL like slash projected starters.
Speaker 1: How about that? Um, just like how loaded this Jaguars
Speaker 1: defense still is. I mean this, this is when I
Speaker 1: was still penciling him in to insert Josh Allen there
Speaker 1: across from Angokway and the guys that they have coming
Speaker 1: off the bench on that team that are so good.
Speaker 1: And to lose uh Kelvin Smith who was such a
Speaker 1: big part of that and now they have no one
Speaker 1: to replace him. I think they'll probably sign a veteran,
Speaker 1: but right now, it's probably Quincy Williams, Quinnin Williams brother,
Speaker 1: who was taken late in the third round, and according
Speaker 1: to Daniel Jeremiah and our NFL Network crew, was about
Speaker 1: the most surprising pick that was made in the first
Speaker 1: three days of the draft by far. They were shocked.
Speaker 1: They that almost every outlet thought he was an undrafted
Speaker 1: type of player that was not heavily scouted. That Jaguars
Speaker 1: saw something special in him, took him in the third round.
Speaker 1: And he is absolutely the guy who was supposed to
Speaker 1: be behind Kelvin Smith who was in a contract year,
Speaker 1: because they have a similar skill set and so asking
Speaker 1: that guy to start a little much. I wonder if
Speaker 1: the Jets have been looking to unload Darren Lee for
Speaker 1: a while now. I wonder if that could be a
Speaker 1: potential match um a player that has because Miles Jack
Speaker 1: was in the middle for the Jaguars can certainly play
Speaker 1: on the outside. Moved Lee into the middle Smith. But
Speaker 1: if you have some sense, uh, let's move on the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: All let's jump into the organic fish tank. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: have locked up fourth year corner Xavien Howard to a
Speaker 1: five year, seventy six point five million dollar contract forty
Speaker 1: six million guarantee. Rap Sheet reported this week. Uh Howard
Speaker 1: a second team All Pro last season. He's the highest
Speaker 1: paid player at his position. The Dolphins have been busy
Speaker 1: this offseason. They traded Ryan Tannehill and Robert Quinn, released
Speaker 1: Uh Erica's boy Danny Amendola guard, Josh Sitton defensive and
Speaker 1: Andre branch Uh. You know that prompted people to say, oh,
Speaker 1: this team is looking to be as terrible as possible
Speaker 1: this season and and build for the future. But they
Speaker 1: view Howard as a part of that future. Obviously. I
Speaker 1: think it was great timing for him. It feels like
Speaker 1: a move that ownership, and I'm sure that the front office,
Speaker 1: who's been around when he was drafted, like would push
Speaker 1: a little harder this offseason, almost as a signed to
Speaker 1: our fans, like, well, we're not giving up totally. We
Speaker 1: want to have good young players. Avian Howard is the
Speaker 1: example of the type of player that we want to
Speaker 1: build around. Let's go make him the highest paid cornerback
Speaker 1: in the league, and like that. There was a real
Speaker 1: rush to do that because he was entering a contract
Speaker 1: where he was only making one million this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like he'll be the Stefan Gilmore and Brian Flores' defense.
Speaker 1: I thought Davian Howard was a legitimate pro bowler last
Speaker 1: year he got He's stingy and he has good ball skills.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can wait till free agency and play
Speaker 1: a guy like Tremaine Johnson thirty thirties six million guaranteed
Speaker 1: or whatever Johnson got, or you could you know, have
Speaker 1: a guy that you know that's in house, like how
Speaker 1: and yeah, and like when you really when in this
Speaker 1: so called rebuild slash organic tank act that they're involved in,
Speaker 1: which I think it gives if you're if you're a
Speaker 1: fan that's willing to look at things from a different angle,
Speaker 1: like you have to kind of like what they're doing
Speaker 1: for the first time in a while. You don't need
Speaker 1: to torch everyone like you. You shouldn't just be get
Speaker 1: letting go of of young talent. This is a guy
Speaker 1: you could build around, and they believe that for the
Speaker 1: next four or five years. And I think unused cap
Speaker 1: space is a sneaky mistake that a lot of teams
Speaker 1: have been making lately, that they leave too much cap
Speaker 1: space carrying over from one year to the next. Because
Speaker 1: you can't use it, you don't really need it, and
Speaker 1: at some point it's kind of a resource you're not using.
Speaker 1: So if this is a good way to spend it
Speaker 1: right now, spend it. Meanwhile, on the throne of sleeves,
Speaker 1: the Patriots have solved all their tight end problems. Benjamin
Speaker 1: Watson is coming out of retirement to sign a deal
Speaker 1: in New England. Rap Sheep reported the thirty eight year
Speaker 1: old spent season with the Saints on a one year
Speaker 1: Deally announced his retirement in late December, but has changed
Speaker 1: his mind. The Patriots originally selected Watson as a first
Speaker 1: round pick in two thousand four, played six seasons with
Speaker 1: the Pats, bounced around the Browns, Saints, the Ravens, now
Speaker 1: back to the Pats, who also have Austin Safarian Jenkins
Speaker 1: in the house as they looked to move from the
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski era. This has to be the oldest quarterback
Speaker 1: to tight end connection in the NFL. Well, we'replacing Breeze
Speaker 1: to Watson last year. I guess ye may if Antonio
Speaker 1: Gates hangs on for five more years, maybe the Rivers
Speaker 1: will have a chance. I love it like a great
Speaker 1: you know, a great statesman for the league, author of
Speaker 1: one of the great plays in Patriots history that came
Speaker 1: into loss when he when years ago when he ran
Speaker 1: down Champ Bailey, was he I wouldn't say a disappointing
Speaker 1: first round pick. Was the end of the first round
Speaker 1: and he was solid. But he you know, people were
Speaker 1: so excited about Ben Watson when he came to the
Speaker 1: league because he just tested off the charts and seemed
Speaker 1: sorry and it took at a while. He said he
Speaker 1: kind of he didn't really understand the way Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: was back then, but now kind of understands it. And
Speaker 1: it is down to come back. It's all happening. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's all great, But like, who's their tight end?
Speaker 1: Matt Lacos and Ben Watson. Mattla Coos got five guaranteed,
Speaker 1: Severian Jenkins and Watson would seem to be fighting for
Speaker 1: one spot where I would guess Watson was probably in
Speaker 1: the lead that I have a prediction, how's this thing
Speaker 1: to the score points? I'll tell you what tight end
Speaker 1: winds up on this team by week one because he
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm just realizing this now is the
Speaker 1: most perfect Patriots type of player. Seth DeValve. That's what's
Speaker 1: gotta how. They got a score points, they got a
Speaker 1: great old line, they got backfield, they had a first
Speaker 1: round receiver. They're really not that much different. You lose
Speaker 1: Gronk and you add Nikil Harry, which is obviously a major,
Speaker 1: major downgrade. But I don't think they did enough here.
Speaker 1: Though they knew Gronk, whether by injury or career wise,
Speaker 1: was not going to be around for much longer, they
Speaker 1: did not do enough. Every Well, maybe they're not done,
Speaker 1: Maybe they still got work to do. We've got breaking news.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are still adding players. It's dontrell in Man,
Speaker 1: come on down. They added the wide receiver on Friday.
Speaker 1: What a perfect edition this is. He'll catch seven teen passes.
Speaker 1: Six of those will be as long as Josh Gordon
Speaker 1: has twenty catches for you're gonna be He would help.
Speaker 1: I'm not counting on it, but he would help. Freaking news.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was right as we're talking about. It's perfect.
Speaker 1: Finally in the news, Derek Anderson is walking away. The
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback has informed the Buffalo Bills he's going to retire.
Speaker 1: The team announced on Thursday. You were signed with the
Speaker 1: Bills after last season, but informed general manager Brandon Bean
Speaker 1: before the draft that he wasn't sure about playing in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and now he's confirmed he has done. I
Speaker 1: will now throw it to Mark Sessler, man who has
Speaker 1: history with Derrick Anderson, who's going to offer up a
Speaker 1: unique retrospective. Really, what it is is a top five
Speaker 1: moments in a very interesting career the career, well interesting
Speaker 1: interesting career. Yeah, let's go to it. Number five. September nine,
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, Led by wet behind the ears quarterback
Speaker 1: Charlie Fry, the Browns host the Pittsburgh Steelers in a
Speaker 1: doomed opener in which Cleveland has shredded thirty four to seven.
Speaker 1: Fry has replaced midway through the slaughter by gangly big
Speaker 1: arm Derek Anderson, largely a mystery at that stage. After
Speaker 1: Brown's GM Phil Savage swung a trade with the Ravens
Speaker 1: for the said signal caller. Days later, on nine eleven,
Speaker 1: Fry has traded to Seattle for a song number four.
Speaker 1: He was traded on what not the celebration the commemoration
Speaker 1: of nine oh, not the day itself, not the day
Speaker 1: itself shut down business. It's two thousand seven first, Well,
Speaker 1: that last time a Week one starters traded before week
Speaker 1: it really is number four. Five days later, on September sixteen,
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Anderson makes his first NFL start,
Speaker 1: lighting up the Bengals for five touchdowns in a bizarre
Speaker 1: fifty five win over Cincinnati. Running an Eric ry Lsk attack,
Speaker 1: Anderson looks sent from Heaven in an offense featuring Jamal Lewis,
Speaker 1: Josh Cribbs, Brail and Edwards, Kellen Winslow, Joe Juravicious, and
Speaker 1: rookie Left House first round quarterback Brady Quinn watches from
Speaker 1: as far as Anderson becomes a minor god overnight number three.
Speaker 1: Fast forward to December two thousand seven, the super frisky
Speaker 1: Browns are nine and five. All they need is a
Speaker 1: win over the Bengals in windy Cincinnati to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I am in Dallas with extended family and convinced about
Speaker 1: twelve of my relatives to watch this Brown's Bengals tilt
Speaker 1: in a massive Dallas sports bar. Over the next three
Speaker 1: plus hours. Cleveland totally the bed as Anderson flings four
Speaker 1: interceptions in a nineteen to fourteen defeat from Hell. The
Speaker 1: Browns missed the playoffs and never make it again. Number four.
Speaker 1: That following February, Justice is deal with the Devil expires,
Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson is handed a three year extension by Cleveland. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the Browns, coming off their ten and six record, are
Speaker 1: given five primetime games in two thousand and eight. What
Speaker 1: could go wrong? Literally everything? Anderson. Anderson is benched mid
Speaker 1: season for Brady Quinn and Cleveland nearly sets an NFL
Speaker 1: record by going twenty four quarters without an offensive touchdown.
Speaker 1: Their output over the last six games of that four
Speaker 1: and twelve two thousand and eight season six points, six points,
Speaker 1: nine points, ten points, zero points, and zero points. One
Speaker 1: year later, in a game for one year later, in
Speaker 1: a game for the truly lost, Anderson is back in
Speaker 1: the lineup and beats the Buffalo Bills on October ten, eleven,
Speaker 1: and two thousand and nine by completing two of seteen
Speaker 1: passes for twenty three yards with an interception. Once again,
Speaker 1: two completions twenty three yards and an interception, trend edwards
Speaker 1: game A one they beat game. It's the worst game
Speaker 1: I've ever seen twenty three yards. But the best Derrik
Speaker 1: and Person moment of all came one year later, in
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, as the quarterback for the ultra
Speaker 1: spiraling Arizona Cardinals. Let's listen, in sports fans, do you
Speaker 1: remember this, poor Kent Summers. I'm not laughing the body
Speaker 1: you think this is funny. I take serious, real serious.
Speaker 1: I put my heart and every single week, I'm saying
Speaker 1: the camera show. I'm just telling you right now what
Speaker 1: I do every single week, every single week, I put
Speaker 1: my freaking heart and soul into this. I started off.
Speaker 1: I don't go out there and laugh. It's not funny,
Speaker 1: but it's funny to me. I don't want to go
Speaker 1: out there and get embarrassed on one of that football
Speaker 1: fun everybody. That's why I'm asking me what I'm telling
Speaker 1: you right now, We're not we're talking. Do some talking.
Speaker 1: What was the context I'm doing? Sorry, I'm not doing
Speaker 1: what anything? Sorry? That was Kent Summers. Kent Summer Arizona Republic,
Speaker 1: who I've always appreciated, has said a million times after
Speaker 1: that that he always feels terrible that that's what people remember.
Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson forth because he said he was one of
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks to deal with, was totally professional like
Speaker 1: after like within an hour, of after that Apollo jetic
Speaker 1: and was always like a great guy. But just caught
Speaker 1: him in a moment. You know, that's that's the tough
Speaker 1: part of being an athlete. I caught him in one
Speaker 1: of the lowest moments of his career, and right, I
Speaker 1: don't need to make light of that. Did is a
Speaker 1: career moment, no doubt. But I talked to him at
Speaker 1: that Panthers Super Bowl when he was Cam Newton's backup
Speaker 1: during media night where you're just like, end this thing
Speaker 1: and for like fifteen minutes, no one standing around Deck Anderson,
Speaker 1: We're just talking old Browns memories. He was like the
Speaker 1: nicest guy ever. Six d sixth round pick thirteen years
Speaker 1: You know, wait, did you mention the Money Night football
Speaker 1: game against the undefeated Giants? Was that what he was?
Speaker 1: That was during the very depressing year, But that was
Speaker 1: an awesome game. He lit up an undefeated Giants team.
Speaker 1: That's the only game during our lifetime when the Browns
Speaker 1: wore numbers on their helmets when they beat the Giants.
Speaker 1: Never wanted to move on faster than this. Well, Ken Somemmers,
Speaker 1: what should say one of the better beat guys in
Speaker 1: the business is he was wrong though, because if you
Speaker 1: watched the video on the sideline, he was laughing. He
Speaker 1: was laughing, but it was one of those you know
Speaker 1: when you're getting your ass kicked and you laugh so
Speaker 1: you don't cry type chuckles, rather than having a good
Speaker 1: old time. But the Monday night football telecast at the time,
Speaker 1: I forget who it was, spent a lot of time
Speaker 1: talking about it too, and so that was like the
Speaker 1: whole the whole story. All right, we all good, Well
Speaker 1: we can continue. I know I have to prep that
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez retrospect now because that's gonna that's gonna be
Speaker 1: coming up. I really wanted to, uh include his thirteen
Speaker 1: and three prediction for the Jets that he did last
Speaker 1: night on Total Access. Did he read a little viral clip?
Speaker 1: Maybe we can put it after as a little button.
Speaker 1: It was great. Good for you, Mark, You're gonna be wrong. Uh,
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Speaker 1: All right, it is now it is time, uh with
Speaker 1: the big wedding coming up a week from Sunday, to
Speaker 1: talk about marriage prospects UH for NFL couples. All right,
Speaker 1: go around the horn twice again. I'll tease it a
Speaker 1: very special guest at the end of the show connected
Speaker 1: directly to the wedding, and it may not be who
Speaker 1: you think it is, all right, Greg get Us gone,
Speaker 1: oh wow, Uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the word is here, but Dirk
Speaker 1: Cotter and Matt Ryan getting remarried and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great, beautiful You know, I have an uncle that
Speaker 1: did that remarriage. You have an uncle who did that,
Speaker 1: who got married divorced. They spent some time apart were
Speaker 1: you I did got married again? Grass is a noise greener, right,
Speaker 1: Liz Taylor and Richard Burton. It's like you've tried some
Speaker 1: other people out you. If you're Dirk Cutter, you thought
Speaker 1: you could maybe do a little bit better. You could
Speaker 1: be a head coach in the league. If you're the Falcons,
Speaker 1: you know you've cycled through. You had a really hot uh,
Speaker 1: you know, flaying with Kyle Shanahan. But for the end
Speaker 1: of the career, for the end of kind of their
Speaker 1: football life together, let's get back to something comfortable. Let's
Speaker 1: get back to something that we know that works and
Speaker 1: let's start getting some pieces around Matt Ryan that we've
Speaker 1: talked about on the offensive line that can really install
Speaker 1: the vision that Dirk Cotter has, which is not just uh,
Speaker 1: throwing the ball like Kyle Shanian did. Um he he
Speaker 1: loves the running game too, So that's that great point.
Speaker 1: But we you know that they are a power running
Speaker 1: team that also throws the ball deep, and they've got
Speaker 1: the players to do it and Calvin Ridley and Julio
Speaker 1: Jones and certainly SNeW over the middle, Austin Hooper. It's
Speaker 1: all there. And this marriage was was quite productive. People
Speaker 1: forget how consistent and excellent Matt Ryan was. I think
Speaker 1: when Dirk Cutter was there, he was a consistent top
Speaker 1: ten quarterback. And it's just familiar, like they don't have
Speaker 1: to like go through you know, maybe there's not the
Speaker 1: crazy early sparks the second time around, but everyone maybe
Speaker 1: there is. Maybe, Yeah, everyone's a little different. You learned
Speaker 1: some tricks. You learned a few different things since the
Speaker 1: last What to stay away from, what to lean into
Speaker 1: you know, well, you know what you like about that
Speaker 1: other person, and you can maximize each other and just
Speaker 1: there's no warming up to this marriage. It's hitting the
Speaker 1: ground running. I think you nailed it. I'd be a
Speaker 1: little concerned for Matt Ryan, who um at times if
Speaker 1: your Dirk Cutters ever spoken more passionately about anything on
Speaker 1: this show. What just happened is Matt Ryan dreaming of
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan though at nights the true, the true love
Speaker 1: of his life that walked out on him. So he
Speaker 1: kind of is reverting back and letting back in someone
Speaker 1: that walked away from him. And Dirk. Look that Ryan
Speaker 1: is Dante and Kyle Shanahan is Beatrice. I love the
Speaker 1: one you're with. You're yeah, you're over our heads with
Speaker 1: that one. I think, well, they never really got to play.
Speaker 1: Everybody spent the whole rest of his life pining for
Speaker 1: he saw her two times. I mean, I think Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan was always someone that they knew was a short
Speaker 1: term thing. It was brief and brilliant, but it had
Speaker 1: a very like a reckless bad boy came into It
Speaker 1: had a very painful end that that maybe none of
Speaker 1: neither one of them has ever totally gotten over. And
Speaker 1: I think for Matt Ryan to really heal and to
Speaker 1: be the best that he can be. Uh, bringing a
Speaker 1: little Dirk and he needs to let go. Yeah, let
Speaker 1: go of that, let go of the past and embrace.
Speaker 1: I mean they went thirty. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys remember they went thirteen and three with Dirk Cutter.
Speaker 1: They were pretty good. They're pretty great team. Um. I
Speaker 1: like that. All right? Um, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: John Gruden and Antonio Brown. Uh so let me just
Speaker 1: put a bow on that. So you think that's a
Speaker 1: built to last marriage doomed for divorce? A little touch
Speaker 1: and ghost sounds like you think. I think it's built
Speaker 1: to last. They're gonna, They're gonna. That's why you're so passionate.
Speaker 1: H John Gruden and Antonio Brown. I'm worried about this one.
Speaker 1: I don't say I want to stay posed, especially with
Speaker 1: the wedding coming up. I don't want to talk about divorce.
Speaker 1: It's an ugly thing and a terrible thing. Uh. You
Speaker 1: know that that hurts people. But um, you never children,
Speaker 1: you never married children, You never marry crazy, and you
Speaker 1: have fun with crazy. Crazy is great uh for flings
Speaker 1: and and short term scenarios, but it's not a long
Speaker 1: term thing. Now, all right, counterpoints, I know it's already
Speaker 1: out there. You're calling Antonio Brown crazy first of all,
Speaker 1: not nice. I get it lighting up though John Gruden
Speaker 1: also maybe a little bit crazy, and then you could
Speaker 1: say crazy and crazy cancel out crazy. But that's well,
Speaker 1: that's that's just more crazy. And what I think is
Speaker 1: gonna happen here is the first year, this first season,
Speaker 1: to that the nineteen it'll be okay. There might be
Speaker 1: a few rumbles on the Richter scale, some signs that maybe, um,
Speaker 1: the honeymoon is over at some point during the season,
Speaker 1: especially if the season goes in the direction that I
Speaker 1: think all of us believe it probably will go, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, not relevant January football. Uh. It will be
Speaker 1: year two where I see this marriage potentially dissolving. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I believe they're moving into a big house in Oakland,
Speaker 1: I mean in Las Vegas as well. Is that a
Speaker 1: good place for a young married couple to go. No,
Speaker 1: I think that house is going to be a relationship too.
Speaker 1: I don't think Antonio is gonna be at the house
Speaker 1: a lots if you if you catch my drift. So
Speaker 1: I see this as a marriage doomed for failure, uh,
Speaker 1: and one that will lead to a lot of consternation.
Speaker 1: I like to call this to sit in Nancy Marriage
Speaker 1: said vicious and Nancy, now I got you on that rev.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's gonna be passionate. I think it's
Speaker 1: more like Dante and be violent, maybe violent and memorable.
Speaker 1: A little on the crazy side, yeah, but maybe not successful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: crazy and crazy. By the way, do not cancel each other.
Speaker 1: As you said, that's just some people throw that stuff
Speaker 1: at Nancy. It's kind of epic, like we're still talking
Speaker 1: about it all these years later. A lot of good
Speaker 1: content came from that, maybe a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: maybe some big time highs and some great content. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Bernard Troyd and Eloise. Well, Eloise is a fame,
Speaker 1: isn't she. Tristan alright, West, you're up. Okay, So like
Speaker 1: sitting Nancy. Most of my references come from the seventies
Speaker 1: and eighties. But let's go back away. Beatrice is is back.
Speaker 1: We're going back to the sixteenth century here, okay again.
Speaker 1: Henry the Eighth in an berleyn Henry the Eighth divorced
Speaker 1: the Spanish princess let's call her josh Chateau Rosen, how
Speaker 1: abandoned the Catholic Church and founded a new state religion.
Speaker 1: Let's call it the air raid offense. I can just
Speaker 1: see one of Erica's social video is like throwing, you know,
Speaker 1: putting you in these outfits right now. So, Henry the
Speaker 1: Eighth is Kingsberry and Ann Berleyn is Kyler Murray. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: their love affair ended when Henry the Eighth had am
Speaker 1: Berleyn beheaded. Yeah, that was a tough spot. Hm, so
Speaker 1: prospects low. I think that I think that kings Bear's
Speaker 1: gonna end up falling for someone else in a few
Speaker 1: years or be out of the league entirely when in
Speaker 1: a Chip Kelly right as some as Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to explain the context of it more
Speaker 1: for us simple Americans. Well, I think Henry the Eighth
Speaker 1: was tied Brittan. The UK listeners are like, oh, we
Speaker 1: understand it, and he was princess, just like kings Beary
Speaker 1: was tied to Josh Rosen. Yeah, something better came along. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got rid of the Spanish princess, married Anne Boleyn,
Speaker 1: who is Kyler Murray, and then he had her beheaded.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if Kingsbury will be will be
Speaker 1: around in a few years to have Kyler Murray beheaded.
Speaker 1: All right. So here's here's my only um criticism of
Speaker 1: that analogy would be that Kingsbury the king, when he
Speaker 1: got sick of the new wife off with her head,
Speaker 1: he still had the power in the Cardinals structure. Doesn't
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, uh a, k A the New Chick have
Speaker 1: more power ultimately in that organization than Kingsbury. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Number One overall, pick as is
Speaker 1: the future. They would say, I don't think the GM
Speaker 1: is necessarily even on board with the fact that they draft.
Speaker 1: I would say yes, I would say the player has
Speaker 1: a little more than Sean McVeigh. Maybe it's the other
Speaker 1: way around, off with his head. It depends on how
Speaker 1: good you are. I think if you're a legit top
Speaker 1: ten type of NFL order back, then you have more
Speaker 1: power than the than the coach. But in that scenario,
Speaker 1: you would think it all be working out. I expect
Speaker 1: this to end in tragedy, is what I'm saying. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, so early to say that, you know, we
Speaker 1: haven't even seen this guy west. I want you to
Speaker 1: positive thoughts about the idea of marriage here. I was
Speaker 1: a little surprised there, and a little nervous now. Well
Speaker 1: for okay, never mind throw it to Mark, Mark, you
Speaker 1: have a happy ending here. Fair to chime in on
Speaker 1: that comment by Dan there West if you wanted to, I, well,
Speaker 1: let's see how this goes. I'm not sure I can
Speaker 1: bring the cheer that you're asking for. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: plural marriages are all the rage right now right and
Speaker 1: they seem like a big old carnival ride from a distance,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I see a plural marriage bound to
Speaker 1: go way wrong. And that to me is the love
Speaker 1: relationship between the Texans offensive line and Deshaun Watson. A
Speaker 1: lot of people involved in this relationship, those big beefy
Speaker 1: road graders, they care for to Sean, and they do
Speaker 1: a nice job when it comes to, you know, coordinating
Speaker 1: their one on one time and also their weekly group
Speaker 1: meetings and dinners where you have to sit down as
Speaker 1: a group and discuss all the ups and downs and
Speaker 1: the issues on the table. And there might be occasional jealousies,
Speaker 1: you know, right guard Zach Fulton is a very emotional
Speaker 1: guy who carried some issues. But I would see over
Speaker 1: all these big beefcakes, they loyally try to do right
Speaker 1: by their quarterback. But when it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: I think DeShawn is just going to get hurt by
Speaker 1: this relationship. I hope, yeah, I hope not physically. Well,
Speaker 1: he took a lot of punishment last year, you know,
Speaker 1: attempting something similar, and they're going right back into it
Speaker 1: with a lot of the same faces involved. So, speaking
Speaker 1: of Vegas, they took it off the board. Which of
Speaker 1: the heroes would bring up plural marriage on the show?
Speaker 1: I mean, I I I don't blame you. I mean
Speaker 1: this has been when a when an organization struggles to
Speaker 1: solve the same problem every single year, you just lose you,
Speaker 1: you lose faith. This is kind of if Billo in
Speaker 1: this scenario. I don't know if Bill O'Brien's a matchmaker
Speaker 1: or remember when they wouldn't pay Dwayne Brown. But Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien has been chyinga right, that's a great point. They
Speaker 1: traded him for a pick that who knows what that
Speaker 1: picks done. Uh. He's been trying to set up his
Speaker 1: quarterbacks for a lasting relationship with the offense one year
Speaker 1: after year and they they're all strike out. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of duds. After a while, you start,
Speaker 1: you know, trusting their ability to evaluate, Uh, what's a
Speaker 1: good match? That pick didn't help turn it to Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson wasn't now it was a it was a second
Speaker 1: round pick. Maybe they did use it to help trade up.
Speaker 1: Some Texas fans can come at us. Um. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's very fair to be worried about that market.
Speaker 1: I'm a Texans fan. The institution of marriage, which some
Speaker 1: people have issues with. There's institutional issues in Houston about
Speaker 1: how to properly protect a quarterback that who's taken a beating.
Speaker 1: Titus Howard who they took twenty three and they say
Speaker 1: they love. I think he might be their right tackle
Speaker 1: and and I, if I had to get I would
Speaker 1: guess Matt Collio might be their left tackle. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Or you can put Titus Hour to left tackle, or
Speaker 1: maybe he's not quite as good, and then you have
Speaker 1: an open spot a right tie. It's like either way,
Speaker 1: it's it's trouble. Is maccleil bounce around the NFL getting
Speaker 1: starting jobs if he was a you know, overall pick.
Speaker 1: Is he still getting these benefit of the doubt jobs
Speaker 1: just because he was agree with It's a fair question.
Speaker 1: Would not um Greg give us another one. This is fun.
Speaker 1: This is fun. Uh, Well, I'm I'm going to talk
Speaker 1: about a marriage that's that's been around for a while,
Speaker 1: and that's Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. And I think
Speaker 1: they have reached a special point in their relationship that
Speaker 1: they're deep in love, that they've now accomplished so much
Speaker 1: together that they recognize that whatever happens for the rest
Speaker 1: of their lives, even if they don't stay together forever,
Speaker 1: it'll never match up. It'll never replace the relationship that
Speaker 1: they have. So maybe the sparks aren't there, and and
Speaker 1: maybe they're even okay with maybe not an open marriage,
Speaker 1: but like looking around and having other interests and they
Speaker 1: kind of are off doing their own things and they've
Speaker 1: reached their heights. But it doesn't matter. They have a
Speaker 1: connection between the two of them that will last forever.
Speaker 1: Like they're not even gonna get as emotion if this
Speaker 1: thing does break up, and it has to break up
Speaker 1: at at some point, uh you know, whether it's retirement
Speaker 1: or some other way. They know, especially after this last
Speaker 1: super Bowl, that they don't don't sweat it. There they're
Speaker 1: each other's forever. Yeah, it's kind of like how like
Speaker 1: a um they've what they've built as an empire. And
Speaker 1: maybe the marriage is not about you know, passion at
Speaker 1: this point or pure love, but they their figureheads and
Speaker 1: they for the good of the company, they have to
Speaker 1: present stability and stay together even if they maybe don't
Speaker 1: have the same thing. I think. I think this last
Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't end on this Jimmy g
Speaker 1: two thousands got a little rocky, the seventeen drama with
Speaker 1: which ended with another There's nothing worse, I think for
Speaker 1: both of them than a Super Bowl loss. The fact
Speaker 1: that it didn't end on that, that they came back
Speaker 1: and they got one more, They scraped out one more.
Speaker 1: That was you know, Bill had kind of taken a
Speaker 1: back seat his part of the marriage. You know, he
Speaker 1: was a lot more supporting, uh Tom, But in this
Speaker 1: super Bowl it was it was kind of all about Bill,
Speaker 1: and I think that helps the two of them recognize
Speaker 1: each other's brilliant and it's just gonna make however this ends.
Speaker 1: I really believe that that this last super Bowl is
Speaker 1: gonna make the ending a little smoother than than it would.
Speaker 1: I think that and they that whenever you they rallied
Speaker 1: as a couple, because there's a lot of people, especially
Speaker 1: when things got rocky around the Jimmy g thing, and
Speaker 1: that was almost like there was someone else, someone out
Speaker 1: of either all. And you kind of come back to
Speaker 1: home base a little, and they had a lot of
Speaker 1: people not rooting for them, rooting against them, rooting for
Speaker 1: the marriage to fail, and they rally. They look like
Speaker 1: a good married couple. They both know the roles. They
Speaker 1: played them to a plus levels. And I think it's
Speaker 1: a very successful. It is the arguably the most successful
Speaker 1: marriage in NFL history. I mean, you know what it it
Speaker 1: reminds me of remember about twenty years ago, um, after
Speaker 1: Monica Lewinsky, Bill and Hillary getting off marriage. Yeah, marine
Speaker 1: one on the great lawn there and walking on this one,
Speaker 1: walking hand in hand together. Yeah, they're doing it for
Speaker 1: the empire. That's right. It is more the empire building
Speaker 1: than the But it's not honestly sheer romance. But but
Speaker 1: also they get older and and and I suspect there's
Speaker 1: no one they would rather be hanging out with. It's different.
Speaker 1: It's different, I disagree with that, or hang out with. Well,
Speaker 1: they're they're still doing it. They've done everything together for
Speaker 1: so long that right, it would be too weird to
Speaker 1: shift gears. I mean, this might be a little off topic,
Speaker 1: but I heard, you know, Ria Pearlman, who had a
Speaker 1: great long I mean one of the classic Hollywood marriages
Speaker 1: with any DeVito, you know, one of the great our
Speaker 1: people marriages of all time. Me and Emaica trying to
Speaker 1: live up to that kind of standard. Two and uh
Speaker 1: they finally divorced after thirty years when that was a
Speaker 1: few years ago. I'm not sure that a few years
Speaker 1: at the time I saw DeVito walking into a bar
Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. Yeah, it might have been, might have
Speaker 1: been five years ago, might have been a little while ago.
Speaker 1: But you know what she says, she said there they
Speaker 1: have a better relationship now, they have kids together, they're
Speaker 1: better friends out, they talk more now. They have a
Speaker 1: better relationship now than when they were married, just because
Speaker 1: it's like, did they recognize that what they meant in
Speaker 1: each other's lives. It's just like, that's a long time
Speaker 1: thirty years or twenty years for Tom Brady and Bill
Speaker 1: Belt back around. Well that was I brought it, but no,
Speaker 1: but I'll take us back off. Danny DeVito seventy years old,
Speaker 1: about three and half a tall, uh not not a
Speaker 1: you know, not the most fit man, but rich and
Speaker 1: famous and like what you think that is? That's another
Speaker 1: he does very well and has always done very well.
Speaker 1: You know you know what I'm saying, Well, I think
Speaker 1: we get it, Like I mean, yeah, right, this has
Speaker 1: like an aura about him. But yeah, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that's gonna open everything. But he's got personality, he's funny,
Speaker 1: he's got swag, he's gonna better. It's also massively rich.
Speaker 1: Some empty vessels out there and they'll get it done too.
Speaker 1: One we I think the three of us got alike
Speaker 1: west is uh you know European references that we had
Speaker 1: got that one one more? Anybody got one? Sure? I
Speaker 1: can scu positive. Okay, that's good. Well, sixteenth century wasn't
Speaker 1: far back enough. So let's go to Cleopatra and Mark Anthony,
Speaker 1: arguably the most famous couple in history. We all have
Speaker 1: different interpretations of what this segment meant, but I think
Speaker 1: they'll really worked out. But they are described as brilliant
Speaker 1: to look upon and to listen to, with the power
Speaker 1: to subjugate everyone. This is gonna be Baker Mayfield and
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, brilliant to look upon and listen to, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna subjugate the entire NFL when they explode with
Speaker 1: this offense over the next half decade. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be one of the most successful quarterback to wide receiver
Speaker 1: marriages we've seen love that and they end up dying together,
Speaker 1: by the way, And I feel like, if you're Odell,
Speaker 1: you were you did your best. You were you had
Speaker 1: an arranged marriage with Eli Manning and you did the
Speaker 1: best you could with it. There was a couple of
Speaker 1: moments that he helped Eli. Manning helped Odell Beckham along
Speaker 1: the way. Odell certainly helped Eli. But now we went
Speaker 1: and found love. I think he went and found like
Speaker 1: someone that he is a perfect fit with and it
Speaker 1: wasn't what he necessarily even knew he wanted at first,
Speaker 1: But then he got to Cleveland, he realized this is
Speaker 1: what I want. I love that one. It's almost been
Speaker 1: over not overlooked, but in all the Browns hype, I mean,
Speaker 1: the thing I'm most excited about is Baker Mayfield's to
Speaker 1: me the best quarterback the end of the league since
Speaker 1: luck In Russell Wilson in two thousand twelve, and that
Speaker 1: the upside is who knows, might be even higher. So
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm excited. And to see him
Speaker 1: have someone alongside him right in year two like O'Dell
Speaker 1: is awesome. What a catch that's right? You know. Wow.
Speaker 1: Does that make Odell Beckham like a trophy wife or
Speaker 1: is it the other way around? I think there's a
Speaker 1: double They're equally powerful though it's like no, it's like
Speaker 1: it's like when it's like when you know, Tom Brady
Speaker 1: dropped some of the actresses he was with and found
Speaker 1: Jezelle someone on his level. Yeah, I think that you
Speaker 1: could say Baker Mayfield is the perfect quarterback for Odell Beckham,
Speaker 1: and Odell Beckham is the perfect wide receiver for Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Now Jay Z and Beyonce another example. But just remember
Speaker 1: there was fighting in the elevator. Every marriage is tough.
Speaker 1: Everything looks perfect on paper, there's always gonna be challenges.
Speaker 1: Personalities need to compromise. Oh, speaking of power couples, let's
Speaker 1: welcome her in right now. It might not be who
Speaker 1: you think it was gonna be. Got you trick move.
Speaker 1: It is who you thought it was gonna be. He's
Speaker 1: paramore in the studio. Welcome. How are you You look great?
Speaker 1: You're ready? You look wedding ready. That's what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: The stress is like getting low now. I feel like
Speaker 1: you've definitely had a higher stress level than than West
Speaker 1: throughout this process. That's probably true of most aspects of life,
Speaker 1: even his illness. I would say you were more stressed
Speaker 1: than than he was. Definitely, like West was seriously stressed
Speaker 1: about life threatening cancer, potentially, I was stressed. Um. We
Speaker 1: just wanted to bring you in because, yeah, you are
Speaker 1: getting married to one of the members of the show,
Speaker 1: The Last Bachelor in a surprise, it's your marrying Dan
Speaker 1: laural marriage go. Um, so you're you're feeling good about this?
Speaker 1: Just need to order cupcakes? Like yeah, if you all right,
Speaker 1: if you had to put it down for your marriage,
Speaker 1: built to last, doom, for divorce, touch and go, what
Speaker 1: would be what would you choose? Definitely built to last?
Speaker 1: How to ask question? You would have asked me earlier
Speaker 1: in the wedding planet It could have been like itss,
Speaker 1: what was what was going on earlier in the wedding
Speaker 1: print planning? Just it's a lot of work, and I
Speaker 1: don't think he really realized it at the moment that
Speaker 1: it's just it's a lot of stuff that you have
Speaker 1: to think about like flower girl baskets, like food, like
Speaker 1: all little details that decorations like. I think we had
Speaker 1: different ideas in mind for what the wedding would actually be.
Speaker 1: That mine was more like a very casual beach wedding
Speaker 1: that required very little planning, and um, that vision did
Speaker 1: not take hold of anyone. He says, beach like, we're
Speaker 1: actually getting married on the beach. It's not on the
Speaker 1: beaches at a venue set over the beach, so it's
Speaker 1: not beach wedding like you still have to get cheers
Speaker 1: and decorations and stuff. It is just a lot of
Speaker 1: like waves lapping up against our feet. Everyone who it
Speaker 1: is one of those things, and there are others. I
Speaker 1: think in a marriage where ultimately the guy is kind
Speaker 1: of in the spot where like, yeah, you're stressing because
Speaker 1: all of those things that you want, I don't really
Speaker 1: want or care about those things that much, So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be on you to kind of take the lead
Speaker 1: on that. But then sometimes I'll be like, Okay, well
Speaker 1: this is how it's going to go, and then we'll
Speaker 1: be like I don't know about Then I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? I want to check a few boxes.
Speaker 1: Just catching up Lakisha. First off Monday, three pm at
Speaker 1: JAG's barbershop. I got an appointment with Brett, my guy,
Speaker 1: which puts me squarely in there. Was like a word
Speaker 1: when you're getting your haircuts, the wind. My haircut peaks
Speaker 1: the gentleman's contour six to ten days and so I'm
Speaker 1: lining it up for the wedding and the photos, of course.
Speaker 1: And while we're here, one of the other topics is
Speaker 1: if you are okay with Greg's beard and you told
Speaker 1: him you were. If that is actually not the case,
Speaker 1: you could tell me privately and then I'll get it
Speaker 1: to Greg via a back cattle. That doesn't connect you
Speaker 1: whether you want Greg's beard in the wedding photos forever.
Speaker 1: I like Greg's Greg's beard beard for the pictures. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like sexy roughness to it. You know, Hey,
Speaker 1: she's not the right She's that's the only one saying this.
Speaker 1: Um R. I p um officially to one of my
Speaker 1: favorite names, a name that growing up I didn't know
Speaker 1: if I'd ever know somebody with this name, and I'm
Speaker 1: so happy I did meet both the person and the
Speaker 1: name because it rolls off so beautifully Lakeisha Jackson gonna
Speaker 1: lose it. So you're officially going to take Wesley. You
Speaker 1: know today, you know today, it's like it could be
Speaker 1: Chris Jackson, because anything could happen in a let's be honest,
Speaker 1: not bad. That's the former mood up dul Road. That
Speaker 1: would be some Doug Christie stuff. If you, if you,
Speaker 1: if you took Jackson, well, let's let's be honest. Lakisha
Speaker 1: has been very excited to take on my last name,
Speaker 1: much more excited than I expected. Lakisha Jackson's such a
Speaker 1: great name. I just want to say I privately told
Speaker 1: you this, and now I'm gonna say publicly, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: miss it. I don't have a middle name, so it
Speaker 1: just kind of just slides over. We can still it's
Speaker 1: your middle name then, and we can still call you
Speaker 1: Action Jackson. I mean, there's no rule we can't call
Speaker 1: you actual jacon Er. You why you don't you don't
Speaker 1: like that anymore? I can say confidently that you will
Speaker 1: be the first Lakisha Westling in history. I was address
Speaker 1: to make sure it wasn't taken. He's like, Gmail, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it, um. And finally, there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of Talk in the Studio hashtag. First to Graham, who
Speaker 1: is going to be the first of the Round the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast heroes to post the photo of the heroes
Speaker 1: in our Texas are black tuxes and just one. I
Speaker 1: know I wouldn't assume that point. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be damn right. I'm pretty sure it's Dad. Now. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like you've turned this into that. The real focus
Speaker 1: here is on the four of us that their wedding day.
Speaker 1: That's what everyone's like. These are all the wedding is
Speaker 1: a fun thing. You know, there's a lot of different
Speaker 1: subplots and this is just one of them. You think
Speaker 1: Mark right now, Okay, we're gonna say I think Mark
Speaker 1: has been on a bit of a hiatus. I think
Speaker 1: a year ago you would have been you would have
Speaker 1: been potentially what a way to come behind the glasses answer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because now that you've brought it up. The second the
Speaker 1: moment you brought it up, I immediately thought, well, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to now because that's just sort of like
Speaker 1: my personal reaction is just like, well I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: bother now because it's like it's sort of out in
Speaker 1: the ether and just like, let someone else do it,
Speaker 1: you know, and there you go. I think we have
Speaker 1: her answer though. Yeah, yeah, Ricky might be the perfect person.
Speaker 1: She's the thirstiest for the cloud. So she's you grew
Speaker 1: a beard so you could look like a man next
Speaker 1: to the rest of them. Happened. I don't don't bring
Speaker 1: a knife to a gunfight with Yabby. I don't mind.
Speaker 1: Would Post encouraged that. I would say, you, maybe we're
Speaker 1: the number one person to encourage to do it. I
Speaker 1: love it. It was all just a sixty years. We've
Speaker 1: now spent three plus minutes Greg Spear during their wedding segment. Um, alright,
Speaker 1: let's hear that guitar again. Let's play Lukisha off. Thanks
Speaker 1: Lukisha for for everything, for being the woman that you
Speaker 1: are and making an honest man of this construction worker
Speaker 1: to your left. It's uh, we're not on the woods yet,
Speaker 1: on the honest man. Put. I mean, are you You're
Speaker 1: the number one NFL media power couple marriage At this point,
Speaker 1: I don't even know who's in the mix. I mean,
Speaker 1: Stephen d y Ish your royalty. Okay, that's good. They've
Speaker 1: had they have a longevity. But you both work here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. You guys are maybe the next in line.
Speaker 1: Then I like that. All right, Lakisha. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see we're done stick around here. Actually we're just
Speaker 1: gonna say goodbye anyway. I can't wait to see all
Speaker 1: of you people on Tybee Island. Oh yeah, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. We're gonna get loose on Tybee and
Speaker 1: your brother who's the brother of yours, Nick Nick Nick,
Speaker 1: who's talking trash about corn Hoole dares to come at
Speaker 1: the old zeuser and Greg, who just we just put
Speaker 1: on a display. Well, Nick can back it up. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried. Why am I automatically removed from that. We
Speaker 1: were playing each other just weeks ago. I thought I
Speaker 1: fared pretty well, and then it's like, not even in
Speaker 1: the discussion how I feel about this either. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, okay, Nick, you're gonna replace Mark, who's
Speaker 1: basically never played with someone as good as West, and
Speaker 1: we were like totally even with But I don't know
Speaker 1: how confident I really feel at this situation to be.
Speaker 1: I just I don't care how the actual two on
Speaker 1: two goes down. I want Nick Nick Nick was delightfully
Speaker 1: a little hacked off about all that. He did not
Speaker 1: want to hear the trash talk on on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Mind games are beginning. It's not just about physically, it's
Speaker 1: how can you handle this psychological warfare when it comes
Speaker 1: to corn Well, Nick will not shut his mouth the
Speaker 1: entire day. Well, we're playing bring it, bring it all right,
Speaker 1: very excited, as you can tell in our voices. We're
Speaker 1: really pumped. And Ricky's coming to It's gonna be on
Speaker 1: the Graham. It's great. All right, we'll be back on Monday.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back on Monday, and then we'll
Speaker 1: have another show that we'll go up early Thursday, and
Speaker 1: then we are off for the island. But we'll see
Speaker 1: you very soon. Hear from us. I should say, let's go,
Speaker 1: dann uh hungry. We need you help, We need this.
Speaker 1: Come on, gleg come on buddy. Yeah, I'm ready for
Speaker 1: a third day. Say dad, we must listen to Dela Whale.
Speaker 1: Kiss is so confused right now. I'm so confused. Help Greg,
Speaker 1: we delaware. Stop this is Whale. It's up to you.
Speaker 1: Luke Coulton, Jack Harrison. I love it. They are the
Speaker 1: children that I didn't realize. They didn't realize Mas right there,
Speaker 1: all right, this is Dan had a signing off for
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the mail Man soon to be ex Action Jackson,
Speaker 1: the Old Bosston, Ricky, Hollywood behind the Glass till Monday