1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It's wedding season. Welcome to 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: another addition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis. I'm joined in a room filled with heroes, 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Roseenhal. What is up? Boy? 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: It is indeed wedding season. So you don't usually see 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: those words sharing real estate together? No you don't. Yeah, 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: it's wedding season. Byers. Get ready. It's so much work 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: for Erica right out of the gate. Is it necessary? 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Just like you and your bros. Let's get together from 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: raucous wedding season. Um, there's a movie about that once. Um. 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Friday edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. Yes, 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: we're all excited. Chris Wessling is getting married a week 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: from sun Day, and uh, he's not sleeping right now, 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: and he says there's other reasons why. But he's allowed 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: west You're allowed to say, Yeah, I got some butterflies, 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: some nervous energy in my system that could be contributing 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: to some sleepless nights maybe a little bit. Honestly, this 18 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: is one of the benefits of um getting married at 19 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: an older point in my life that I don't really 20 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: have butterflies. I know I'm marrying the right person. I 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: know I'm marrying her for the right reason, so I'm 22 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: not nervous about that. And we're gonna have a very 23 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: special together for like two years, and we went through 24 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: cancer together, so I mean it's all good points. We'll 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: have a very special guest at the end of the 26 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: show some of that who's prominently connected to the wedding, 27 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: the mayor of TYPEE. I'll just say it's definitely not David. 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: It's definitely not David Eally, you can that's not necessary. 29 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: David davially was so far outside the possibility of being 30 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: invited that we even forgot about the bit it just 31 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: about being in the in the wedding party. Yeah, accurate. 32 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: If we didn't have like a strict limit on the 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: capacity of the hall, we could have invited up when 34 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: he would have been on that. I haven't forgotten about it. 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: I've been living off those winnings when you were talking 36 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: about as a best man. When I put it down 37 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: plus three, he's not even getting invited to the wedding. 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Been coasting off those The wedding is on Sunday, and 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: really is making Lakeisha fly back on Monday morning at 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: four am two for her news shifts. So I don't 41 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: think she he does. I guess he got even that's 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: a little petty, but he did what he did, and 43 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: he you know, and by it, I'm sure. Uh. Coming 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: up on today's show, speaking of weddings, marriages, Uh, in 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: the NFL marriage prospects for NFL couples, will go through 46 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: the league and talk about some unions and whether they're 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: built to last or in deep trouble. We'll do some news, um. 48 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: But before that one one other quick bit of housekeeping 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: circling back to Monday show. Um. Greg, of course, it 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: comes up on the show that the Delaware tapes, and 51 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: we said, hey, what if we did some type of 52 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, crowdfunding um to to get that tape on 53 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: our show? You declined it as is your right. Um. 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: But then someone on Twitter hit me up, this guy 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: John sebast Jean and wrote, regarding that Delaware tape, could 56 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: we give money to a charity organization selected by Greg 57 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: in exchange for the release of the tape? So how 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: about something that doesn't line in your pockets but helps 59 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: a good cause, like say cancer research or whatever. Greg 60 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts. I mean, you're putting me in a tough 61 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: spot here. I'll think about it. I don't know. I'd 62 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: rather raise it for some other reason. I mean, why 63 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: don't we just raise it then if we're doing it 64 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: out of the goodness of our hearts, not cancer is 65 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: not good enough for you. No, I mean cancer could be. 66 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. We'll just do with the tapes. 67 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: You know, you want to be a good person. Don't 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: expect something in return, just do Yeah, but we want 69 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: the tapes though. It's just something to think about. Okay, Greg, 70 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: then think about I'll bet I'm so hungry. We need 71 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: you help. We need this. Come on, Glegg, we are 72 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: in the future. Would you be my dad? So these 73 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: are your kids cancer, it's a dead We must listen 74 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: to Dela Whale. Do it for us. We need you help, Greg, 75 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: We Dela Whale. We need to unt Della Whale. It's 76 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: up to you. It really talks at the old heartstrings. Yeah, 77 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: it does. I feel bad. All right. All the kids 78 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: who actually have cancer out there, what is this cancer thing? 79 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: There's no cancer. They're just kids that need help. Enough 80 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: with the cancer. Straw Man. This is what this is 81 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: about the tapes. I didn't know Jack was such a fan. Jack, 82 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about now. I simply 83 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: brought up the cancer is one, got it, got it, 84 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: But there's so many different causes. There's children that need 85 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: your help, as you just heard. Just something that's something 86 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: to think about. It take It takes a lot to 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: crack my ice cold heart, but those kids. When would 88 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: there be a fair time to circle back on this, 89 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: because we really do want to be fair to you, 90 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: because it's you know, tapping into your past twenty minutes 91 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: and the news. Yeah, let's let it ride out. Maybe 92 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: well everyone will just forget about it. Yeah. I love 93 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: that you're clearly uncomfortable over this. I mean, how are 94 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: you even transfer the who even knows? I gotta like 95 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: that we're getting into technical I have to even assume 96 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: I have them. But I think I think I knew something, 97 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: all right. That's progress in itself right there. Let's do 98 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: some news to the Seattle Seahawks. It's the end of 99 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: an era the team and outs Thursday they're terminating the 100 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: contracts of both Doug Baldwin, their top wide receiver, and 101 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor, the standout safety um This comes after word 102 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: had leaked out about Doug Baldwin potentially looking to retire. 103 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: He's undergone three surgeries since the end of the two 104 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen season, the Ladies latest one of sports herney 105 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: operation that was going to sideline him up to two 106 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: months um and with Chancellor, it was a neck injury 107 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: that he didn't play last year. So neither of these 108 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: is necessarily surprised, but it is now official that Seattle's 109 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: moving on and Greg, both of these guys were central 110 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: figure is and the greatest era of Seahawk history. Uh, 111 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. And the Baldwin news, you know, 112 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: stands out even though we didn't know for you know, 113 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: we knew that there was a chance that he was retiring. 114 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: To see the finality of this that they're releasing him. 115 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: And I think the reason is financially, Uh, he can 116 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: actually collect you know, more on insurance and there there's 117 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: kind of reasons to why they're not keeping him on 118 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: the roster. That it's over is one of the biggest 119 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: stories of the off season to me. He's thirty years old, 120 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Chancellor, it's just a paperwork thing. We've known 121 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: he's gone for a while, but Baldwin, he was still 122 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: their best receiver when he played and when he was 123 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: finally kind of healthy last year, And to lose him 124 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: in an offense that already UH struggled to have consistent 125 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: receiving talent. Tyler Lockett was great last year, but that's 126 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: the first season he's ever really stayed healthy and consistent 127 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: like that throughout the whole season and then after that. 128 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: So the number one guy, it's just a bunch of 129 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: question mark. So losing Baldwin to me, really hurts a 130 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: team that was in the playoffs a year ago. I 131 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: think he's the best slot receiver of the past five years. 132 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: Um Over Larry Fitzgerald, over Julian Edelman, over Golden Tate, 133 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: over Jarvis Landry. I think Doug Baldwin's the choice, and 134 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: he and Cam Chancellor are both also indicative. I think 135 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: of that Seahawks, that group, their extraordinary pride, mental toughness, 136 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: accountability to each other, and the front office's ability to 137 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: find talent everywhere. There was a period where they were 138 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: on this show. I remember we we might have even 139 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: done a midweek sort of surprise show because the Seahawks 140 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: were resigning. You know, Richard Sherman, resigning Earl Thomas and 141 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: resigning all the drafted talent that they had built in house, 142 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: and now it's all gone. And you look at the 143 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: fact that kJ Wright, with the departure of Doug Baldwiness 144 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: now their longest tenured Seahawk on the team. And this 145 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: is a team that last year led the league in rushing. 146 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: Not a huge shock under Brian Schottenheimer. But they're a 147 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: great candidate, I don't know great, it's not the right word, 148 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: but a strong candidate to do it again. Because you're right, 149 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: there's just not a lot left. I think they went 150 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: into the draft obviously knowing this was a clear option. 151 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: That's why you get DK Metcap, I like David Moore, 152 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: but there but there is a lot of question marks. 153 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: Like you said, well, Baldwin was one of those guys 154 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: that you know, kids being born right now into Seahawks 155 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: families who uh, you know are gonna look back at 156 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: his numbers and probably not kids are on your mind. 157 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, yes, they're not gonna understand what 158 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: Baldwin meant kind of to them, and there they'll have 159 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: their parents because the Seahawks fans, you know, if they 160 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: love anything, they love to talk about the Seahawks and 161 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: and to me, Baldwin is a great Seahawk. Like he 162 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: someone I read a fan that made the case he's 163 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: the second best sauk receiver of all time and is 164 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: stats just sort of don't you do him justice? He 165 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: was a guy that if you did. And this was 166 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: on Twitter, I think Danny Kelly sent it out like 167 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: a lot of teams would try zero coverage against them, 168 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: believing that none of their receivers could really beat one 169 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: on one, and Baldwin would always beat him deep. I mean, 170 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: he made a lot of plays down the field for 171 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: a guy that was known as a slot guy. She 172 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: reported that Thursday's releases likely the end of the road 173 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: for Baldwin solely due to the health issues. So I 174 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: guess it's not completely impossible that he pops up again. 175 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: He's not an old guy. I think he's thirty years old. Um, 176 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: maybe he's feeling a lot better next year, who knows, 177 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: but um, as of right now, it looks like he 178 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: will not be in the picture in the NFL in 179 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, and maybe for good. Uh. That is 180 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: not the only big Seahawks news However, Uh, they added 181 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: a player uh this week, Ziggy Adza, who has founded 182 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: out a new home in Seattle. He was one of 183 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: those semi prominent free agents that had not signed a deal, 184 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: and now that uh compensatory pick window is closed, he 185 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: makes the deal with the Seahawks. Base value of nine 186 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: million could reach up to twelve point seven five million 187 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: with incentives. Rap Sheet reported six million guarantees. Uh. So 188 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, good money for a deal that you're signing 189 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: uh almost in the middle of May. For Ziggy, he's 190 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: been beset by health issues during his career. Uh spent 191 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: with a lion ends. But he's also a guy mark 192 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: when it has a history of an ability to get 193 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: to the quarterback and make plays when healthy, and Seattle 194 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: is hoping to get that version of Anso. Yeah, Dan, 195 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: we were talking the other day that we we are 196 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: of the group that believes he might secretly be forty 197 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: seven years old, because it's un it's undetermined how old 198 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: he actually is. We just don't know. He entered the 199 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: league with Um Gray in his well back in the 200 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: day when the draft was in New York. Um. And 201 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: it's a damn shame that Dolan ruined that I think 202 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: I've shared my feelings like doubt though I think nice 203 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: it has. But I have personal reasons why I wished 204 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: to the state of New York anyway, but part of 205 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: it was and we would use to travel on the 206 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: draft and cover all the hooplah before Mark and I 207 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: a couple of times went down to this park uh 208 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: down in Lower Manhattan where the rookies would be playing 209 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: with Greg the kids children play sixty play sixty event 210 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: they should be outside, not listening to old lousy tapes 211 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: of mid nineties wannabes. And Ziggianza was there and he 212 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: looked like an older man then and he was incoming 213 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: rookie class, but it fills in need. I thought he 214 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: was maybe gonna go to the Ravens because they were 215 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: zoning in. But Seattle and the Bills too, so that 216 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: was good little came in and snatched. That's good money. 217 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: And it's one of the reasons why the Frank Clark trade, 218 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, helped them out. They're eating a lot of 219 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: money with Doug Baldwin and Chancellor by the way, sixteen 220 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: million dollars on the cap for those two guys, but 221 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: you still saved a little bit by getting ridden by 222 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: cutting Baldwin, and you saved a lot by not keeping 223 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: Clark on the on the team. And if you get 224 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: five snaps from Ziggianza, then you're happy that that's the max. 225 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't played more than five fifty I 226 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: believe since, so even if he is fully healthy, I'm 227 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: sure they're only going to play him thirty forty snaps 228 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: a game. But he's a good I mean, he's their 229 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: best defensive end. Now. I wouldn't want to be on 230 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: a I wouldn't want my team to have ziggy Onza 231 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: as my top guy with nothing, very little, but for 232 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: this price, it's still great for because they didn't have 233 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: anything other other other options. Uh. He's turning thirty later 234 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: this month. He had fourteen and a half sacks um 235 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: in the two thousand fifteen season. Last year he just 236 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: played seven games two sacks. So, yes, he hasn't been 237 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: able to stay healthy, but it is there's some potential 238 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: big upside there for the Seahawks. Moving on the Jaguars, 239 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: they have an issue because Jackson there. Linebacker Telvin Smith 240 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: took to his Instagram page on Thursday dropped a bombshell 241 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: announced he's stepping away from football for the two thousand 242 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: nineteen season, and the message sent out to his followers, 243 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: he wrote, it was said to me from a great 244 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: coach that in order for the man to be his best, 245 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: he must get his world in order. At this time, 246 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: I must take time away from the game and get 247 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: my world in order. I must give this time back 248 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: to myself, my family, and my health. I appreciate all 249 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: the sport I will and will not get. I just 250 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: ask you' all respect my decision to not play football 251 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: this season. That is a bombshell, uh for a team 252 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: because Smith is a big part of their day. It's 253 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: not just their leading tackler. Bobby Wagner, Luke Kickley, and 254 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: Lavonte David are the only players in the NFL with 255 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: more tackles over the last five years. Sort of reminds 256 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: me of um Jason Worlds Steelers linebacker who walked away 257 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: from a big pay day a few years ago. Anthony Davis, 258 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: the forty Niners right tackle who applied for reinstatement recently 259 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: after sitting out a few years. You see more of 260 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: this now where players are willing to walk away to 261 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: address whatever is going on with their lives. Instead of 262 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: playing football for a while, and this one's a mystery. 263 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: The Jaguars set on Friday at their rookie minicamp that 264 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: they learned about uh Telvin Smith walking away as the 265 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: rest of the public did when he posted on Instagram, 266 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: and they have not really heard from him, according to 267 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: reports all offseason about what is his issue. Some people 268 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: thought it was his contract. He hasn't been really in 269 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: touch with the team, so it's a miss three. You 270 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: worry about what it could be, and I don't know you. 271 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: It's it's an open story to me. Yes, he's he 272 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: says he's sitting out this season, but it feels like 273 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: it's not the last we're gonna hear of this story. 274 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: The thing I found odd was, I mean, it's one 275 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: thing who knows what the issue is, but that he 276 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: was unreachable. That they tried to multiple people from the 277 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: team while you're under contract and you're part of the 278 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: major plans of the defense heading to this season. That 279 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: they've tried multiple times to reach you and you're unreachable. 280 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: That tells me it has to do with him potentially 281 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: more than someone in his orbit. But we don't know. 282 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: To me that you look at him his two thousand 283 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: and seventeen season was dominant and he was a huge 284 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: part of the defense. I remember being in London to 285 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: watch the Jags Bills game, and well, it was an assignment, 286 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: so I guess it's it's somewhat something of a brag. 287 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: But when you're when you're watching these games in person, 288 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: we've all seen this. You see stuff that you just 289 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't see otherwise. His speed man, that guy, and there's 290 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: a reason that he had the pick six is that 291 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: he had in the interceptions because he used that speed 292 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: very well. They're gonna miss him. I realized this, and 293 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: I should know going through the projected starters uh series 294 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com this week, NFL like slash projected starters. 295 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: How about that? Um, just like how loaded this Jaguars 296 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: defense still is. I mean this, this is when I 297 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: was still penciling him in to insert Josh Allen there 298 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: across from Angokway and the guys that they have coming 299 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: off the bench on that team that are so good. 300 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: And to lose uh Kelvin Smith who was such a 301 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: big part of that and now they have no one 302 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: to replace him. I think they'll probably sign a veteran, 303 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: but right now, it's probably Quincy Williams, Quinnin Williams brother, 304 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: who was taken late in the third round, and according 305 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: to Daniel Jeremiah and our NFL Network crew, was about 306 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: the most surprising pick that was made in the first 307 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: three days of the draft by far. They were shocked. 308 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: They that almost every outlet thought he was an undrafted 309 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: type of player that was not heavily scouted. That Jaguars 310 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: saw something special in him, took him in the third round. 311 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: And he is absolutely the guy who was supposed to 312 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: be behind Kelvin Smith who was in a contract year, 313 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: because they have a similar skill set and so asking 314 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: that guy to start a little much. I wonder if 315 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: the Jets have been looking to unload Darren Lee for 316 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: a while now. I wonder if that could be a 317 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: potential match um a player that has because Miles Jack 318 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: was in the middle for the Jaguars can certainly play 319 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: on the outside. Moved Lee into the middle Smith. But 320 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: if you have some sense, uh, let's move on the Dolphins. 321 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: All let's jump into the organic fish tank. The Dolphins 322 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: have locked up fourth year corner Xavien Howard to a 323 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: five year, seventy six point five million dollar contract forty 324 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: six million guarantee. Rap Sheet reported this week. Uh Howard 325 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: a second team All Pro last season. He's the highest 326 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: paid player at his position. The Dolphins have been busy 327 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: this offseason. They traded Ryan Tannehill and Robert Quinn, released 328 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Uh Erica's boy Danny Amendola guard, Josh Sitton defensive and 329 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Andre branch Uh. You know that prompted people to say, oh, 330 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: this team is looking to be as terrible as possible 331 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: this season and and build for the future. But they 332 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: view Howard as a part of that future. Obviously. I 333 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: think it was great timing for him. It feels like 334 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: a move that ownership, and I'm sure that the front office, 335 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: who's been around when he was drafted, like would push 336 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: a little harder this offseason, almost as a signed to 337 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: our fans, like, well, we're not giving up totally. We 338 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: want to have good young players. Avian Howard is the 339 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: example of the type of player that we want to 340 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: build around. Let's go make him the highest paid cornerback 341 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: in the league, and like that. There was a real 342 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: rush to do that because he was entering a contract 343 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: where he was only making one million this year. Yeah, 344 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: it looks like he'll be the Stefan Gilmore and Brian Flores' defense. 345 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: I thought Davian Howard was a legitimate pro bowler last 346 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: year he got He's stingy and he has good ball skills. 347 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you can wait till free agency and play 348 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: a guy like Tremaine Johnson thirty thirties six million guaranteed 349 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: or whatever Johnson got, or you could you know, have 350 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: a guy that you know that's in house, like how 351 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: and yeah, and like when you really when in this 352 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: so called rebuild slash organic tank act that they're involved in, 353 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: which I think it gives if you're if you're a 354 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: fan that's willing to look at things from a different angle, 355 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: like you have to kind of like what they're doing 356 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: for the first time in a while. You don't need 357 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: to torch everyone like you. You shouldn't just be get 358 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: letting go of of young talent. This is a guy 359 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: you could build around, and they believe that for the 360 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: next four or five years. And I think unused cap 361 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: space is a sneaky mistake that a lot of teams 362 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: have been making lately, that they leave too much cap 363 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: space carrying over from one year to the next. Because 364 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: you can't use it, you don't really need it, and 365 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: at some point it's kind of a resource you're not using. 366 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: So if this is a good way to spend it 367 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: right now, spend it. Meanwhile, on the throne of sleeves, 368 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots have solved all their tight end problems. Benjamin 369 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: Watson is coming out of retirement to sign a deal 370 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: in New England. Rap Sheep reported the thirty eight year 371 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: old spent season with the Saints on a one year 372 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: Deally announced his retirement in late December, but has changed 373 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: his mind. The Patriots originally selected Watson as a first 374 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: round pick in two thousand four, played six seasons with 375 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: the Pats, bounced around the Browns, Saints, the Ravens, now 376 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: back to the Pats, who also have Austin Safarian Jenkins 377 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: in the house as they looked to move from the 378 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski era. This has to be the oldest quarterback 379 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: to tight end connection in the NFL. Well, we'replacing Breeze 380 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: to Watson last year. I guess ye may if Antonio 381 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: Gates hangs on for five more years, maybe the Rivers 382 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: will have a chance. I love it like a great 383 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, a great statesman for the league, author of 384 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: one of the great plays in Patriots history that came 385 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: into loss when he when years ago when he ran 386 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: down Champ Bailey, was he I wouldn't say a disappointing 387 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: first round pick. Was the end of the first round 388 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: and he was solid. But he you know, people were 389 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: so excited about Ben Watson when he came to the 390 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: league because he just tested off the charts and seemed 391 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: sorry and it took at a while. He said he 392 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: kind of he didn't really understand the way Bill Belichick 393 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: was back then, but now kind of understands it. And 394 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: it is down to come back. It's all happening. I mean, 395 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: it's it's all great, But like, who's their tight end? 396 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: Matt Lacos and Ben Watson. Mattla Coos got five guaranteed, 397 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: Severian Jenkins and Watson would seem to be fighting for 398 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: one spot where I would guess Watson was probably in 399 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: the lead that I have a prediction, how's this thing 400 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: to the score points? I'll tell you what tight end 401 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: winds up on this team by week one because he 402 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm just realizing this now is the 403 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: most perfect Patriots type of player. Seth DeValve. That's what's 404 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: gotta how. They got a score points, they got a 405 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: great old line, they got backfield, they had a first 406 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: round receiver. They're really not that much different. You lose 407 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: Gronk and you add Nikil Harry, which is obviously a major, 408 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: major downgrade. But I don't think they did enough here. 409 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: Though they knew Gronk, whether by injury or career wise, 410 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: was not going to be around for much longer, they 411 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: did not do enough. Every Well, maybe they're not done, 412 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: Maybe they still got work to do. We've got breaking news. 413 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: The Patriots are still adding players. It's dontrell in Man, 414 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: come on down. They added the wide receiver on Friday. 415 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: What a perfect edition this is. He'll catch seven teen passes. 416 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: Six of those will be as long as Josh Gordon 417 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: has twenty catches for you're gonna be He would help. 418 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: I'm not counting on it, but he would help. Freaking news. 419 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it was right as we're talking about. It's perfect. 420 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: Finally in the news, Derek Anderson is walking away. The 421 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: veteran quarterback has informed the Buffalo Bills he's going to retire. 422 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: The team announced on Thursday. You were signed with the 423 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: Bills after last season, but informed general manager Brandon Bean 424 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: before the draft that he wasn't sure about playing in 425 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and now he's confirmed he has done. I 426 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: will now throw it to Mark Sessler, man who has 427 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: history with Derrick Anderson, who's going to offer up a 428 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: unique retrospective. Really, what it is is a top five 429 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: moments in a very interesting career the career, well interesting 430 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: interesting career. Yeah, let's go to it. Number five. September nine, 431 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: two thousand seven, Led by wet behind the ears quarterback 432 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: Charlie Fry, the Browns host the Pittsburgh Steelers in a 433 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: doomed opener in which Cleveland has shredded thirty four to seven. 434 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: Fry has replaced midway through the slaughter by gangly big 435 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: arm Derek Anderson, largely a mystery at that stage. After 436 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Brown's GM Phil Savage swung a trade with the Ravens 437 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: for the said signal caller. Days later, on nine eleven, 438 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: Fry has traded to Seattle for a song number four. 439 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: He was traded on what not the celebration the commemoration 440 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: of nine oh, not the day itself, not the day 441 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: itself shut down business. It's two thousand seven first, Well, 442 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: that last time a Week one starters traded before week 443 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: it really is number four. Five days later, on September sixteen, 444 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Anderson makes his first NFL start, 445 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: lighting up the Bengals for five touchdowns in a bizarre 446 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: fifty five win over Cincinnati. Running an Eric ry Lsk attack, 447 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: Anderson looks sent from Heaven in an offense featuring Jamal Lewis, 448 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: Josh Cribbs, Brail and Edwards, Kellen Winslow, Joe Juravicious, and 449 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: rookie Left House first round quarterback Brady Quinn watches from 450 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: as far as Anderson becomes a minor god overnight number three. 451 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: Fast forward to December two thousand seven, the super frisky 452 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: Browns are nine and five. All they need is a 453 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: win over the Bengals in windy Cincinnati to make the playoffs. 454 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I am in Dallas with extended family and convinced about 455 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: twelve of my relatives to watch this Brown's Bengals tilt 456 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: in a massive Dallas sports bar. Over the next three 457 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: plus hours. Cleveland totally the bed as Anderson flings four 458 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: interceptions in a nineteen to fourteen defeat from Hell. The 459 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: Browns missed the playoffs and never make it again. Number four. 460 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: That following February, Justice is deal with the Devil expires, 461 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson is handed a three year extension by Cleveland. Meanwhile, 462 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: the Browns, coming off their ten and six record, are 463 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: given five primetime games in two thousand and eight. What 464 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: could go wrong? Literally everything? Anderson. Anderson is benched mid 465 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: season for Brady Quinn and Cleveland nearly sets an NFL 466 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: record by going twenty four quarters without an offensive touchdown. 467 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: Their output over the last six games of that four 468 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: and twelve two thousand and eight season six points, six points, 469 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: nine points, ten points, zero points, and zero points. One 470 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: year later, in a game for one year later, in 471 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: a game for the truly lost, Anderson is back in 472 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: the lineup and beats the Buffalo Bills on October ten, eleven, 473 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: and two thousand and nine by completing two of seteen 474 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: passes for twenty three yards with an interception. Once again, 475 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: two completions twenty three yards and an interception, trend edwards 476 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: game A one they beat game. It's the worst game 477 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I've ever seen twenty three yards. But the best Derrik 478 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: and Person moment of all came one year later, in 479 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, as the quarterback for the ultra 480 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: spiraling Arizona Cardinals. Let's listen, in sports fans, do you 481 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: remember this, poor Kent Summers. I'm not laughing the body 482 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: you think this is funny. I take serious, real serious. 483 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: I put my heart and every single week, I'm saying 484 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: the camera show. I'm just telling you right now what 485 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: I do every single week, every single week, I put 486 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: my freaking heart and soul into this. I started off. 487 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't go out there and laugh. It's not funny, 488 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: but it's funny to me. I don't want to go 489 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: out there and get embarrassed on one of that football 490 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: fun everybody. That's why I'm asking me what I'm telling 491 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: you right now, We're not we're talking. Do some talking. 492 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: What was the context I'm doing? Sorry, I'm not doing 493 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: what anything? Sorry? That was Kent Summers. Kent Summer Arizona Republic, 494 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: who I've always appreciated, has said a million times after 495 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: that that he always feels terrible that that's what people remember. 496 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson forth because he said he was one of 497 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks to deal with, was totally professional like 498 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: after like within an hour, of after that Apollo jetic 499 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: and was always like a great guy. But just caught 500 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: him in a moment. You know, that's that's the tough 501 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: part of being an athlete. I caught him in one 502 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: of the lowest moments of his career, and right, I 503 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: don't need to make light of that. Did is a 504 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: career moment, no doubt. But I talked to him at 505 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: that Panthers Super Bowl when he was Cam Newton's backup 506 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: during media night where you're just like, end this thing 507 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: and for like fifteen minutes, no one standing around Deck Anderson, 508 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: We're just talking old Browns memories. He was like the 509 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: nicest guy ever. Six d sixth round pick thirteen years 510 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: You know, wait, did you mention the Money Night football 511 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: game against the undefeated Giants? Was that what he was? 512 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: That was during the very depressing year, But that was 513 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: an awesome game. He lit up an undefeated Giants team. 514 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: That's the only game during our lifetime when the Browns 515 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: wore numbers on their helmets when they beat the Giants. 516 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: Never wanted to move on faster than this. Well, Ken Somemmers, 517 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: what should say one of the better beat guys in 518 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: the business is he was wrong though, because if you 519 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: watched the video on the sideline, he was laughing. He 520 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: was laughing, but it was one of those you know 521 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: when you're getting your ass kicked and you laugh so 522 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: you don't cry type chuckles, rather than having a good 523 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: old time. But the Monday night football telecast at the time, 524 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: I forget who it was, spent a lot of time 525 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: talking about it too, and so that was like the 526 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: whole the whole story. All right, we all good, Well 527 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: we can continue. I know I have to prep that 528 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez retrospect now because that's gonna that's gonna be 529 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: coming up. I really wanted to, uh include his thirteen 530 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: and three prediction for the Jets that he did last 531 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: night on Total Access. Did he read a little viral clip? 532 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: Maybe we can put it after as a little button. 533 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: It was great. Good for you, Mark, You're gonna be wrong. Uh, 534 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: fourteen and two is the correct answer. That's what's happening 535 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: in the news. Hey, um, did you know that you 536 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: can actually get paid just for listening to this podcast? No? 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I'll tease it a 561 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: very special guest at the end of the show connected 562 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: directly to the wedding, and it may not be who 563 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: you think it is, all right, Greg get Us gone, 564 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: oh wow, Uh, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with uh. 565 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what the word is here, but Dirk 566 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Cotter and Matt Ryan getting remarried and it's gonna be 567 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: a great, beautiful You know, I have an uncle that 568 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: did that remarriage. You have an uncle who did that, 569 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: who got married divorced. They spent some time apart were 570 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: you I did got married again? Grass is a noise greener, right, 571 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: Liz Taylor and Richard Burton. It's like you've tried some 572 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: other people out you. If you're Dirk Cutter, you thought 573 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: you could maybe do a little bit better. You could 574 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: be a head coach in the league. If you're the Falcons, 575 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: you know you've cycled through. You had a really hot uh, 576 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, flaying with Kyle Shanahan. But for the end 577 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: of the career, for the end of kind of their 578 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: football life together, let's get back to something comfortable. Let's 579 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: get back to something that we know that works and 580 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: let's start getting some pieces around Matt Ryan that we've 581 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: talked about on the offensive line that can really install 582 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: the vision that Dirk Cotter has, which is not just uh, 583 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 1: throwing the ball like Kyle Shanian did. Um he he 584 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: loves the running game too, So that's that great point. 585 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: But we you know that they are a power running 586 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: team that also throws the ball deep, and they've got 587 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: the players to do it and Calvin Ridley and Julio 588 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: Jones and certainly SNeW over the middle, Austin Hooper. It's 589 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: all there. And this marriage was was quite productive. People 590 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: forget how consistent and excellent Matt Ryan was. I think 591 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: when Dirk Cutter was there, he was a consistent top 592 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: ten quarterback. And it's just familiar, like they don't have 593 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: to like go through you know, maybe there's not the 594 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: crazy early sparks the second time around, but everyone maybe 595 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: there is. Maybe, Yeah, everyone's a little different. You learned 596 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: some tricks. You learned a few different things since the 597 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: last What to stay away from, what to lean into 598 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, well, you know what you like about that 599 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: other person, and you can maximize each other and just 600 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: there's no warming up to this marriage. It's hitting the 601 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: ground running. I think you nailed it. I'd be a 602 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: little concerned for Matt Ryan, who um at times if 603 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: your Dirk Cutters ever spoken more passionately about anything on 604 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: this show. What just happened is Matt Ryan dreaming of 605 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan though at nights the true, the true love 606 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: of his life that walked out on him. So he 607 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: kind of is reverting back and letting back in someone 608 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: that walked away from him. And Dirk. Look that Ryan 609 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: is Dante and Kyle Shanahan is Beatrice. I love the 610 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: one you're with. You're yeah, you're over our heads with 611 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: that one. I think, well, they never really got to play. 612 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: Everybody spent the whole rest of his life pining for 613 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: he saw her two times. I mean, I think Kyle 614 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: Shanahan was always someone that they knew was a short 615 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 1: term thing. It was brief and brilliant, but it had 616 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: a very like a reckless bad boy came into It 617 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: had a very painful end that that maybe none of 618 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: neither one of them has ever totally gotten over. And 619 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: I think for Matt Ryan to really heal and to 620 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: be the best that he can be. Uh, bringing a 621 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: little Dirk and he needs to let go. Yeah, let 622 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: go of that, let go of the past and embrace. 623 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean they went thirty. I don't know if you 624 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: guys remember they went thirteen and three with Dirk Cutter. 625 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: They were pretty good. They're pretty great team. Um. I 626 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: like that. All right? Um, I want to talk about 627 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: John Gruden and Antonio Brown. Uh so let me just 628 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: put a bow on that. So you think that's a 629 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: built to last marriage doomed for divorce? A little touch 630 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: and ghost sounds like you think. I think it's built 631 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: to last. They're gonna, They're gonna. That's why you're so passionate. 632 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: H John Gruden and Antonio Brown. I'm worried about this one. 633 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: I don't say I want to stay posed, especially with 634 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: the wedding coming up. I don't want to talk about divorce. 635 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: It's an ugly thing and a terrible thing. Uh. You 636 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: know that that hurts people. But um, you never children, 637 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: you never married children, You never marry crazy, and you 638 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: have fun with crazy. Crazy is great uh for flings 639 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: and and short term scenarios, but it's not a long 640 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: term thing. Now, all right, counterpoints, I know it's already 641 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: out there. You're calling Antonio Brown crazy first of all, 642 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: not nice. I get it lighting up though John Gruden 643 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: also maybe a little bit crazy, and then you could 644 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: say crazy and crazy cancel out crazy. But that's well, 645 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: that's that's just more crazy. And what I think is 646 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna happen here is the first year, this first season, 647 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: to that the nineteen it'll be okay. There might be 648 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: a few rumbles on the Richter scale, some signs that maybe, um, 649 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: the honeymoon is over at some point during the season, 650 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: especially if the season goes in the direction that I 651 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: think all of us believe it probably will go, which is, 652 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, not relevant January football. Uh. It will be 653 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: year two where I see this marriage potentially dissolving. Uh. 654 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: And I believe they're moving into a big house in Oakland, 655 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean in Las Vegas as well. Is that a 656 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: good place for a young married couple to go. No, 657 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: I think that house is going to be a relationship too. 658 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't think Antonio is gonna be at the house 659 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: a lots if you if you catch my drift. So 660 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: I see this as a marriage doomed for failure, uh, 661 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: and one that will lead to a lot of consternation. 662 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: I like to call this to sit in Nancy Marriage 663 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: said vicious and Nancy, now I got you on that rev. 664 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's gonna be passionate. I think it's 665 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: more like Dante and be violent, maybe violent and memorable. 666 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: A little on the crazy side, yeah, but maybe not successful. Yeah, 667 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: crazy and crazy. By the way, do not cancel each other. 668 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: As you said, that's just some people throw that stuff 669 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: at Nancy. It's kind of epic, like we're still talking 670 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: about it all these years later. A lot of good 671 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: content came from that, maybe a lot of you know, 672 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: maybe some big time highs and some great content. Yeah, 673 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: like Bernard Troyd and Eloise. Well, Eloise is a fame, 674 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: isn't she. Tristan alright, West, you're up. Okay, So like 675 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: sitting Nancy. Most of my references come from the seventies 676 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: and eighties. But let's go back away. Beatrice is is back. 677 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: We're going back to the sixteenth century here, okay again. 678 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: Henry the Eighth in an berleyn Henry the Eighth divorced 679 00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: the Spanish princess let's call her josh Chateau Rosen, how 680 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: abandoned the Catholic Church and founded a new state religion. 681 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: Let's call it the air raid offense. I can just 682 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: see one of Erica's social video is like throwing, you know, 683 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: putting you in these outfits right now. So, Henry the 684 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: Eighth is Kingsberry and Ann Berleyn is Kyler Murray. Unfortunately 685 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: their love affair ended when Henry the Eighth had am 686 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: Berleyn beheaded. Yeah, that was a tough spot. Hm, so 687 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: prospects low. I think that I think that kings Bear's 688 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: gonna end up falling for someone else in a few 689 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: years or be out of the league entirely when in 690 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: a Chip Kelly right as some as Yeah, I think 691 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to explain the context of it more 692 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: for us simple Americans. Well, I think Henry the Eighth 693 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: was tied Brittan. The UK listeners are like, oh, we 694 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: understand it, and he was princess, just like kings Beary 695 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: was tied to Josh Rosen. Yeah, something better came along. Yeah, 696 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: he got rid of the Spanish princess, married Anne Boleyn, 697 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: who is Kyler Murray, and then he had her beheaded. 698 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if Kingsbury will be will be 699 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: around in a few years to have Kyler Murray beheaded. 700 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: All right. So here's here's my only um criticism of 701 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: that analogy would be that Kingsbury the king, when he 702 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: got sick of the new wife off with her head, 703 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: he still had the power in the Cardinals structure. Doesn't 704 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, uh a, k A the New Chick have 705 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: more power ultimately in that organization than Kingsbury. I don't know. 706 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Number One overall, pick as is 707 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: the future. They would say, I don't think the GM 708 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: is necessarily even on board with the fact that they draft. 709 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: I would say yes, I would say the player has 710 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: a little more than Sean McVeigh. Maybe it's the other 711 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: way around, off with his head. It depends on how 712 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: good you are. I think if you're a legit top 713 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: ten type of NFL order back, then you have more 714 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: power than the than the coach. But in that scenario, 715 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: you would think it all be working out. I expect 716 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: this to end in tragedy, is what I'm saying. Oh 717 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: my gosh, so early to say that, you know, we 718 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: haven't even seen this guy west. I want you to 719 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: positive thoughts about the idea of marriage here. I was 720 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: a little surprised there, and a little nervous now. Well 721 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: for okay, never mind throw it to Mark, Mark, you 722 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: have a happy ending here. Fair to chime in on 723 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: that comment by Dan there West if you wanted to, I, well, 724 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: let's see how this goes. I'm not sure I can 725 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: bring the cheer that you're asking for. Uh. You know, 726 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: plural marriages are all the rage right now right and 727 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: they seem like a big old carnival ride from a distance, 728 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I see a plural marriage bound to 729 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: go way wrong. And that to me is the love 730 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: relationship between the Texans offensive line and Deshaun Watson. A 731 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: lot of people involved in this relationship, those big beefy 732 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: road graders, they care for to Sean, and they do 733 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: a nice job when it comes to, you know, coordinating 734 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: their one on one time and also their weekly group 735 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: meetings and dinners where you have to sit down as 736 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: a group and discuss all the ups and downs and 737 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: the issues on the table. And there might be occasional jealousies, 738 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, right guard Zach Fulton is a very emotional 739 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: guy who carried some issues. But I would see over 740 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: all these big beefcakes, they loyally try to do right 741 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: by their quarterback. But when it comes down to it, 742 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: I think DeShawn is just going to get hurt by 743 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: this relationship. I hope, yeah, I hope not physically. Well, 744 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: he took a lot of punishment last year, you know, 745 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: attempting something similar, and they're going right back into it 746 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: with a lot of the same faces involved. So, speaking 747 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: of Vegas, they took it off the board. Which of 748 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: the heroes would bring up plural marriage on the show? 749 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I I I don't blame you. I mean 750 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: this has been when a when an organization struggles to 751 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: solve the same problem every single year, you just lose you, 752 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: you lose faith. This is kind of if Billo in 753 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: this scenario. I don't know if Bill O'Brien's a matchmaker 754 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: or remember when they wouldn't pay Dwayne Brown. But Bill 755 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: O'Brien has been chyinga right, that's a great point. They 756 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: traded him for a pick that who knows what that 757 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: picks done. Uh. He's been trying to set up his 758 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: quarterbacks for a lasting relationship with the offense one year 759 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: after year and they they're all strike out. You know, 760 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of duds. After a while, you start, 761 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, trusting their ability to evaluate, Uh, what's a 762 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: good match? That pick didn't help turn it to Deshaun 763 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: Watson wasn't now it was a it was a second 764 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: round pick. Maybe they did use it to help trade up. 765 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: Some Texas fans can come at us. Um. Yeah, I 766 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,959 Speaker 1: think it's very fair to be worried about that market. 767 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm a Texans fan. The institution of marriage, which some 768 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: people have issues with. There's institutional issues in Houston about 769 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: how to properly protect a quarterback that who's taken a beating. 770 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: Titus Howard who they took twenty three and they say 771 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: they love. I think he might be their right tackle 772 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 1: and and I, if I had to get I would 773 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: guess Matt Collio might be their left tackle. I don't know. 774 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: Or you can put Titus Hour to left tackle, or 775 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: maybe he's not quite as good, and then you have 776 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: an open spot a right tie. It's like either way, 777 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: it's it's trouble. Is maccleil bounce around the NFL getting 778 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: starting jobs if he was a you know, overall pick. 779 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: Is he still getting these benefit of the doubt jobs 780 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: just because he was agree with It's a fair question. 781 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 1: Would not um Greg give us another one. This is fun. 782 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: This is fun. Uh, Well, I'm I'm going to talk 783 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: about a marriage that's that's been around for a while, 784 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: and that's Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. And I think 785 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: they have reached a special point in their relationship that 786 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: they're deep in love, that they've now accomplished so much 787 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: together that they recognize that whatever happens for the rest 788 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: of their lives, even if they don't stay together forever, 789 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: it'll never match up. It'll never replace the relationship that 790 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: they have. So maybe the sparks aren't there, and and 791 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: maybe they're even okay with maybe not an open marriage, 792 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: but like looking around and having other interests and they 793 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: kind of are off doing their own things and they've 794 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: reached their heights. But it doesn't matter. They have a 795 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: connection between the two of them that will last forever. 796 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: Like they're not even gonna get as emotion if this 797 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: thing does break up, and it has to break up 798 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: at at some point, uh you know, whether it's retirement 799 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: or some other way. They know, especially after this last 800 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: super Bowl, that they don't don't sweat it. There they're 801 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: each other's forever. Yeah, it's kind of like how like 802 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: a um they've what they've built as an empire. And 803 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: maybe the marriage is not about you know, passion at 804 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: this point or pure love, but they their figureheads and 805 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: they for the good of the company, they have to 806 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: present stability and stay together even if they maybe don't 807 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: have the same thing. I think. I think this last 808 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't end on this Jimmy g 809 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: two thousands got a little rocky, the seventeen drama with 810 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: which ended with another There's nothing worse, I think for 811 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: both of them than a Super Bowl loss. The fact 812 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: that it didn't end on that, that they came back 813 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: and they got one more, They scraped out one more. 814 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: That was you know, Bill had kind of taken a 815 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: back seat his part of the marriage. You know, he 816 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: was a lot more supporting, uh Tom, But in this 817 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: super Bowl it was it was kind of all about Bill, 818 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: and I think that helps the two of them recognize 819 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: each other's brilliant and it's just gonna make however this ends. 820 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: I really believe that that this last super Bowl is 821 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,479 Speaker 1: gonna make the ending a little smoother than than it would. 822 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: I think that and they that whenever you they rallied 823 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: as a couple, because there's a lot of people, especially 824 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: when things got rocky around the Jimmy g thing, and 825 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: that was almost like there was someone else, someone out 826 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: of either all. And you kind of come back to 827 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: home base a little, and they had a lot of 828 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: people not rooting for them, rooting against them, rooting for 829 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 1: the marriage to fail, and they rally. They look like 830 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: a good married couple. They both know the roles. They 831 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: played them to a plus levels. And I think it's 832 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: a very successful. It is the arguably the most successful 833 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: marriage in NFL history. I mean, you know what it it 834 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 1: reminds me of remember about twenty years ago, um, after 835 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 1: Monica Lewinsky, Bill and Hillary getting off marriage. Yeah, marine 836 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: one on the great lawn there and walking on this one, 837 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: walking hand in hand together. Yeah, they're doing it for 838 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 1: the empire. That's right. It is more the empire building 839 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: than the But it's not honestly sheer romance. But but 840 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: also they get older and and and I suspect there's 841 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: no one they would rather be hanging out with. It's different. 842 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: It's different, I disagree with that, or hang out with. Well, 843 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: they're they're still doing it. They've done everything together for 844 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: so long that right, it would be too weird to 845 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: shift gears. I mean, this might be a little off topic, 846 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: but I heard, you know, Ria Pearlman, who had a 847 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: great long I mean one of the classic Hollywood marriages 848 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: with any DeVito, you know, one of the great our 849 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: people marriages of all time. Me and Emaica trying to 850 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: live up to that kind of standard. Two and uh 851 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: they finally divorced after thirty years when that was a 852 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: few years ago. I'm not sure that a few years 853 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: at the time I saw DeVito walking into a bar 854 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. Yeah, it might have been, might have 855 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: been five years ago, might have been a little while ago. 856 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: But you know what she says, she said there they 857 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: have a better relationship now, they have kids together, they're 858 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: better friends out, they talk more now. They have a 859 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: better relationship now than when they were married, just because 860 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: it's like, did they recognize that what they meant in 861 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: each other's lives. It's just like, that's a long time 862 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: thirty years or twenty years for Tom Brady and Bill 863 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: Belt back around. Well that was I brought it, but no, 864 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: but I'll take us back off. Danny DeVito seventy years old, 865 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: about three and half a tall, uh not not a 866 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, not the most fit man, but rich and 867 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: famous and like what you think that is? That's another 868 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: he does very well and has always done very well. 869 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: You know you know what I'm saying, Well, I think 870 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: we get it, Like I mean, yeah, right, this has 871 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: like an aura about him. But yeah, I'm not saying 872 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna open everything. But he's got personality, he's funny, 873 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: he's got swag, he's gonna better. It's also massively rich. 874 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: Some empty vessels out there and they'll get it done too. 875 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: One we I think the three of us got alike 876 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: west is uh you know European references that we had 877 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: got that one one more? Anybody got one? Sure? I 878 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: can scu positive. Okay, that's good. Well, sixteenth century wasn't 879 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: far back enough. So let's go to Cleopatra and Mark Anthony, 880 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: arguably the most famous couple in history. We all have 881 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,359 Speaker 1: different interpretations of what this segment meant, but I think 882 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: they'll really worked out. But they are described as brilliant 883 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: to look upon and to listen to, with the power 884 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: to subjugate everyone. This is gonna be Baker Mayfield and 885 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, brilliant to look upon and listen to, and 886 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna subjugate the entire NFL when they explode with 887 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: this offense over the next half decade. This is gonna 888 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,760 Speaker 1: be one of the most successful quarterback to wide receiver 889 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: marriages we've seen love that and they end up dying together, 890 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: by the way, And I feel like, if you're Odell, 891 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: you were you did your best. You were you had 892 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: an arranged marriage with Eli Manning and you did the 893 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 1: best you could with it. There was a couple of 894 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: moments that he helped Eli. Manning helped Odell Beckham along 895 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: the way. Odell certainly helped Eli. But now we went 896 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: and found love. I think he went and found like 897 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: someone that he is a perfect fit with and it 898 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 1: wasn't what he necessarily even knew he wanted at first, 899 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: But then he got to Cleveland, he realized this is 900 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: what I want. I love that one. It's almost been 901 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: over not overlooked, but in all the Browns hype, I mean, 902 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: the thing I'm most excited about is Baker Mayfield's to 903 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: me the best quarterback the end of the league since 904 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: luck In Russell Wilson in two thousand twelve, and that 905 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: the upside is who knows, might be even higher. So 906 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm excited. And to see him 907 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: have someone alongside him right in year two like O'Dell 908 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: is awesome. What a catch that's right? You know. Wow. 909 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: Does that make Odell Beckham like a trophy wife or 910 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: is it the other way around? I think there's a 911 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: double They're equally powerful though it's like no, it's like 912 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: it's like when it's like when you know, Tom Brady 913 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: dropped some of the actresses he was with and found 914 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: Jezelle someone on his level. Yeah, I think that you 915 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: could say Baker Mayfield is the perfect quarterback for Odell Beckham, 916 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: and Odell Beckham is the perfect wide receiver for Baker Mayfield. 917 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: Now Jay Z and Beyonce another example. But just remember 918 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: there was fighting in the elevator. Every marriage is tough. 919 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: Everything looks perfect on paper, there's always gonna be challenges. 920 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: Personalities need to compromise. Oh, speaking of power couples, let's 921 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: welcome her in right now. It might not be who 922 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: you think it was gonna be. Got you trick move. 923 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: It is who you thought it was gonna be. He's 924 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: paramore in the studio. Welcome. How are you You look great? 925 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: You're ready? You look wedding ready. That's what I'm gonna say. 926 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: The stress is like getting low now. I feel like 927 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: you've definitely had a higher stress level than than West 928 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: throughout this process. That's probably true of most aspects of life, 929 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: even his illness. I would say you were more stressed 930 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: than than he was. Definitely, like West was seriously stressed 931 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: about life threatening cancer, potentially, I was stressed. Um. We 932 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: just wanted to bring you in because, yeah, you are 933 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 1: getting married to one of the members of the show, 934 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: The Last Bachelor in a surprise, it's your marrying Dan 935 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: laural marriage go. Um, so you're you're feeling good about this? 936 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: Just need to order cupcakes? Like yeah, if you all right, 937 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: if you had to put it down for your marriage, 938 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: built to last, doom, for divorce, touch and go, what 939 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: would be what would you choose? Definitely built to last? 940 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: How to ask question? You would have asked me earlier 941 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 1: in the wedding planet It could have been like itss, 942 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: what was what was going on earlier in the wedding 943 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: print planning? Just it's a lot of work, and I 944 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: don't think he really realized it at the moment that 945 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: it's just it's a lot of stuff that you have 946 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: to think about like flower girl baskets, like food, like 947 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: all little details that decorations like. I think we had 948 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 1: different ideas in mind for what the wedding would actually be. 949 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 1: That mine was more like a very casual beach wedding 950 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: that required very little planning, and um, that vision did 951 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: not take hold of anyone. He says, beach like, we're 952 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 1: actually getting married on the beach. It's not on the 953 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: beaches at a venue set over the beach, so it's 954 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 1: not beach wedding like you still have to get cheers 955 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: and decorations and stuff. It is just a lot of 956 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: like waves lapping up against our feet. Everyone who it 957 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: is one of those things, and there are others. I 958 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: think in a marriage where ultimately the guy is kind 959 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: of in the spot where like, yeah, you're stressing because 960 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: all of those things that you want, I don't really 961 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: want or care about those things that much, So it's 962 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: gonna be on you to kind of take the lead 963 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: on that. But then sometimes I'll be like, Okay, well 964 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 1: this is how it's going to go, and then we'll 965 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: be like I don't know about Then I'm like, are 966 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: you kidding me? I want to check a few boxes. 967 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: Just catching up Lakisha. First off Monday, three pm at 968 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: JAG's barbershop. I got an appointment with Brett, my guy, 969 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 1: which puts me squarely in there. Was like a word 970 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: when you're getting your haircuts, the wind. My haircut peaks 971 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: the gentleman's contour six to ten days and so I'm 972 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: lining it up for the wedding and the photos, of course. 973 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: And while we're here, one of the other topics is 974 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: if you are okay with Greg's beard and you told 975 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: him you were. If that is actually not the case, 976 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: you could tell me privately and then I'll get it 977 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: to Greg via a back cattle. That doesn't connect you 978 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: whether you want Greg's beard in the wedding photos forever. 979 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: I like Greg's Greg's beard beard for the pictures. Okay, 980 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying like sexy roughness to it. You know, Hey, 981 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: she's not the right She's that's the only one saying this. 982 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: Um R. I p um officially to one of my 983 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: favorite names, a name that growing up I didn't know 984 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: if I'd ever know somebody with this name, and I'm 985 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: so happy I did meet both the person and the 986 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: name because it rolls off so beautifully Lakeisha Jackson gonna 987 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: lose it. So you're officially going to take Wesley. You 988 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: know today, you know today, it's like it could be 989 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: Chris Jackson, because anything could happen in a let's be honest, 990 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: not bad. That's the former mood up dul Road. That 991 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: would be some Doug Christie stuff. If you, if you, 992 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: if you took Jackson, well, let's let's be honest. Lakisha 993 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: has been very excited to take on my last name, 994 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: much more excited than I expected. Lakisha Jackson's such a 995 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 1: great name. I just want to say I privately told 996 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: you this, and now I'm gonna say publicly, I'm gonna 997 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: miss it. I don't have a middle name, so it 998 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: just kind of just slides over. We can still it's 999 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: your middle name then, and we can still call you 1000 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,879 Speaker 1: Action Jackson. I mean, there's no rule we can't call 1001 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 1: you actual jacon Er. You why you don't you don't 1002 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 1: like that anymore? I can say confidently that you will 1003 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,240 Speaker 1: be the first Lakisha Westling in history. I was address 1004 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: to make sure it wasn't taken. He's like, Gmail, don't 1005 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: worry about it, um. And finally, there's been a lot 1006 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: of Talk in the Studio hashtag. First to Graham, who 1007 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: is going to be the first of the Round the 1008 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: NFL podcast heroes to post the photo of the heroes 1009 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: in our Texas are black tuxes and just one. I 1010 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 1: know I wouldn't assume that point. I think it's gonna 1011 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: be damn right. I'm pretty sure it's Dad. Now. I mean, 1012 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 1: I like you've turned this into that. The real focus 1013 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: here is on the four of us that their wedding day. 1014 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: That's what everyone's like. These are all the wedding is 1015 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 1: a fun thing. You know, there's a lot of different 1016 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: subplots and this is just one of them. You think 1017 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: Mark right now, Okay, we're gonna say I think Mark 1018 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: has been on a bit of a hiatus. I think 1019 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: a year ago you would have been you would have 1020 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: been potentially what a way to come behind the glasses answer? Yeah, 1021 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: because now that you've brought it up. The second the 1022 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: moment you brought it up, I immediately thought, well, I'm 1023 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: not going to now because that's just sort of like 1024 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 1: my personal reaction is just like, well I'm not gonna 1025 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: bother now because it's like it's sort of out in 1026 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: the ether and just like, let someone else do it, 1027 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, and there you go. I think we have 1028 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: her answer though. Yeah, yeah, Ricky might be the perfect person. 1029 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 1: She's the thirstiest for the cloud. So she's you grew 1030 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: a beard so you could look like a man next 1031 00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 1: to the rest of them. Happened. I don't don't bring 1032 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 1: a knife to a gunfight with Yabby. I don't mind. 1033 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: Would Post encouraged that. I would say, you, maybe we're 1034 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: the number one person to encourage to do it. I 1035 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: love it. It was all just a sixty years. We've 1036 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: now spent three plus minutes Greg Spear during their wedding segment. Um, alright, 1037 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: let's hear that guitar again. Let's play Lukisha off. Thanks 1038 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: Lukisha for for everything, for being the woman that you 1039 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: are and making an honest man of this construction worker 1040 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 1: to your left. It's uh, we're not on the woods yet, 1041 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 1: on the honest man. Put. I mean, are you You're 1042 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: the number one NFL media power couple marriage At this point, 1043 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 1: I don't even know who's in the mix. I mean, 1044 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: Stephen d y Ish your royalty. Okay, that's good. They've 1045 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 1: had they have a longevity. But you both work here. Yeah, 1046 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 1: that's true. You guys are maybe the next in line. 1047 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: Then I like that. All right, Lakisha. I can't wait 1048 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: to see we're done stick around here. Actually we're just 1049 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: gonna say goodbye anyway. I can't wait to see all 1050 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: of you people on Tybee Island. Oh yeah, this is 1051 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna be fun. We're gonna get loose on Tybee and 1052 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: your brother who's the brother of yours, Nick Nick Nick, 1053 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: who's talking trash about corn Hoole dares to come at 1054 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: the old zeuser and Greg, who just we just put 1055 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: on a display. Well, Nick can back it up. I'm 1056 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: not worried. Why am I automatically removed from that. We 1057 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: were playing each other just weeks ago. I thought I 1058 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: fared pretty well, and then it's like, not even in 1059 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: the discussion how I feel about this either. It's like 1060 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, okay, Nick, you're gonna replace Mark, who's 1061 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: basically never played with someone as good as West, and 1062 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: we were like totally even with But I don't know 1063 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: how confident I really feel at this situation to be. 1064 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: I just I don't care how the actual two on 1065 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: two goes down. I want Nick Nick Nick was delightfully 1066 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: a little hacked off about all that. He did not 1067 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: want to hear the trash talk on on the podcast. 1068 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: Mind games are beginning. It's not just about physically, it's 1069 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: how can you handle this psychological warfare when it comes 1070 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: to corn Well, Nick will not shut his mouth the 1071 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: entire day. Well, we're playing bring it, bring it all right, 1072 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: very excited, as you can tell in our voices. We're 1073 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: really pumped. And Ricky's coming to It's gonna be on 1074 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 1: the Graham. It's great. All right, we'll be back on Monday. 1075 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back on Monday, and then we'll 1076 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 1: have another show that we'll go up early Thursday, and 1077 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: then we are off for the island. But we'll see 1078 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 1: you very soon. Hear from us. I should say, let's go, 1079 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: dann uh hungry. We need you help, We need this. 1080 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: Come on, gleg come on buddy. Yeah, I'm ready for 1081 00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: a third day. Say dad, we must listen to Dela Whale. 1082 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: Kiss is so confused right now. I'm so confused. Help Greg, 1083 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: we delaware. Stop this is Whale. It's up to you. 1084 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 1: Luke Coulton, Jack Harrison. I love it. They are the 1085 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: children that I didn't realize. They didn't realize Mas right there, 1086 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: all right, this is Dan had a signing off for 1087 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the mail Man soon to be ex Action Jackson, 1088 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 1: the Old Bosston, Ricky, Hollywood behind the Glass till Monday