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Speaker 2: No, we could do a rolling star. PJ wants us

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Speaker 2: to do an icebreaker to start this episode. What icebreaker

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Speaker 2: did you have in mind? Beach exactly suggested something without

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Speaker 2: the solution. All right, Well we are back, and we

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Speaker 2: are joined by a friend of the show, journalist, writer, podcaster, rapper, manager,

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Speaker 2: every single hat you can think of in the industry,

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Speaker 2: this gentleman has worn. He's also just an incredible human

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Speaker 2: being and it's been a friend of mine for I

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Speaker 2: don't know fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: At this point, I think we're around in eighteen actions

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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 4: Something stupid.

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Speaker 5: We are joined by mech mack. What's up man, that's

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Speaker 5: our live studio audience. Oh wow, you didn't see all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people, people, that's what they don't see.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: What is your elevator pitch?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 5: How do you because you've done so much? Like, what

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Speaker 5: do you say?

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Speaker 4: I do what I want? I like it.

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Speaker 1: I'll do what I want.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you do for a living? What I want?

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Speaker 5: Hold on?

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Speaker 7: Hold on?

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Speaker 5: Hold on whole the whole mic came out, not breaking ship.

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Speaker 5: That's what I do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we're back. I take back that entire intro

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Speaker 2: because Met came in here.

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Speaker 8: He's not the.

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Speaker 2: Professional I thought he was. He took the label off

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Speaker 2: a professional here. But never mind, he broke the microphone,

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Speaker 2: so I take back everything that I said, erased his

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Speaker 1: Right before we get into that though episode A new

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Speaker 1: episode of Don't Know Balls available now with our guy

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Speaker 1: Zach Randolph.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to z Bo for kicking it with us

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Speaker 1: for a few legendary legendary power forward seventeen NBA VET

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Speaker 1: and a great businessman and just one of the most

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Speaker 1: solid dudes that probably have ever made it through the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So shout out to Zebo for kicking with us.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know before we did the research that

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Speaker 2: he discovered money bag yea like, I had no idea

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's one of those that's one of those

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Speaker 3: wild stories. Yeah, comes out of the blue, unex.

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Speaker 2: It would be him. Who's the guy that found Meg?

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Speaker 2: Why am I blanket Q tip?

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Speaker 5: Besides Q tip?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the baseball player is usually athletes fuck up labels

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Speaker 5: Those two are the only ones that have really been successful.

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh, there's probably some more sprinkled in there.

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Speaker 3: Quietly, can you can you call what happened with Mega success?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Meg thee Stallion? Yeah, I mean like there there

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Speaker 2: I mean it was bad business, but usually when athletes

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Speaker 2: absolutely nowhere. So it was bad business, but that's not

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Speaker 2: an athlete thing. That's the music thing.

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Speaker 5: True.

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Speaker 4: True. That's why I give it the credit to q Tip.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which is also the wildest thing.

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Speaker 3: That was the story for me, knowing q Tip had

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Speaker 5: He saw Iggy az Alien was like no more, that

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Speaker 5: And he's defense, She's like, why are you telling you this?

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Speaker 3: When's the last time you heard a Niggy song.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was coming from a place of like

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Speaker 1: But you know how it is. Make You can't even

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Speaker 1: and all he's trying to play or you know, they're

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Speaker 5: You know how it is.

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Speaker 3: If we never thinking it's constructive critics, you can't. You

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Speaker 3: But now the other side of that coin is I

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Speaker 3: then it's the OG's don't help the OG's, don't say nothing.

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Speaker 3: it's well, nobody was helping me, nobody X, Y and Z.

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Speaker 3: You make it public because the career is happening in them,

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Speaker 4: Careers happening. But I'm a public figure. You're a public figure.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's my public advice to you publicly for all

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Speaker 3: the shit you keep doing in public. The backfire is

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Speaker 3: the part that I don't like, because then then it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: But That's what I'm saying. It has to be a

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Speaker 1: that narrative. Why if you're really trying to help me,

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Speaker 5: Of Iggy is publicly speaking like Crocodile Dundee and then

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Speaker 1: No, no, he can. I'm just saying that, if you're

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Speaker 1: really trying to help. Oh, I don't think he was

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Speaker 1: I think he was trying to make a point of

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Speaker 4: I thought he was trying to help, but you got

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Speaker 4: to have thicker skin.

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Speaker 1: I think he was trying to drain the swamp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: was trying to drink like that was a he cast

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Speaker 1: it a wide net. All of you that's in this

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Speaker 1: game that just trying to get a check and trying

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Speaker 1: to just capitalize off this culture. Stop.

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Speaker 5: Can we reactivate his Twitter now to at Tommy Richmond?

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Speaker 5: Is that doable.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with Tommy?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Tommy didn't want try to box somebody. He was talking

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Speaker 1: to mech when he said that, don't box him. And

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Speaker 1: he's not just a rapper. Listening, he's not just hip hops.

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Speaker 5: The CIA link with the FBI Sexy read Tommy Richmond. Listen.

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Speaker 2: You guys said he was hip hop and then he

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Speaker 1: No, no, he said, he's not just hip hop. See, we

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Speaker 1: gotta we gotta make He.

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Speaker 2: Said, don't box me in, but let me submit for

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Speaker 2: a Grammy in the hip hop category.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, naturally, Yes, I got a better chance of

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Speaker 2: Yes, damaras you defended Sexy Red and Bruno up and down.

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Speaker 9: Okay, allegedly we can all now the.

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Speaker 5: Dust and settle. We can all agree that song stinks, right, I.

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Speaker 9: Told you.

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Speaker 5: I don't know the name of it.

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Speaker 1: Bruno and Sexy Yeah, yeah, juiceeing that one. Oh my,

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Speaker 1: that song was terrible.

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Speaker 4: He did the movement with it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that song was. That song is.

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Speaker 2: Nasty and they owe Nipsey's family royalties off that ship.

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Speaker 1: But last time that I checked, it's just.

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Speaker 2: A bite of that. And then they threw Bruno mars

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Speaker 2: on it, okay, fat juicy in what yea.

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Speaker 1: Or last time that I checked it was fat juicy

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Speaker 5: I don't think the last time wat year any of

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Speaker 1: It's definitely not not really what I should have checked

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Speaker 5: What he should have done.

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Speaker 4: What's happening here?

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Speaker 2: Listen, man, I don't dislike Tommy Richmond. I thought his

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Speaker 2: and like, think about what they're saying.

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Speaker 5: This is another ploy.

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Speaker 2: You guys called me crazy for saying that they're just

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Speaker 2: using sexy red as to fill in.

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Speaker 5: Ghetto girl?

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Speaker 1: Is she the token black girl?

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Speaker 2: And the way they tried to do with party but

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Speaker 2: now doing with her and Tommy Richmond coming off that

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Speaker 2: like this is this is so.

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Speaker 5: Label put together. It's kind of disgusting. And the song

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Speaker 5: is probably gonna be greatly, gonna be far better than

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Speaker 5: Bruno one, but it still looks nasty as fuck.

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Speaker 4: That's I don't I don't know about Well, we'll see. Well.

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Speaker 4: I don't like.

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Speaker 5: To Tommy don't miss I loved his probably, but it's

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Speaker 5: it's very post malonious about Tommy don't miss.

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Speaker 1: It's just hilarious, Like we act like Tommy Richmond is

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Speaker 1: like this legendary. Like I'm not saying he's not, you know,

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Speaker 1: a good artist, but saying he doesn't like we know

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Speaker 1: the people that don't miss.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if Tommy is.

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Speaker 1: In that it's that.

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Speaker 4: Is coming?

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Speaker 5: Did this clam is coming?

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Speaker 4: Bat?

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Speaker 9: I say don't miss and means Tommy Jackson doesn't miss.

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Speaker 8: Like doesn't miss, Like Tommy makes music that it's hard

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Speaker 8: not to like. He's not taking a huge rice. It's

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Speaker 8: palatable and it's palatable. It's not gonna be the greatest

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Speaker 8: thing in the world, but it's not gonna be bad.

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Speaker 8: So that's different from not missing. But that's not it's

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Speaker 8: not missing.

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Speaker 1: Tommy Richmond is like New York pizza. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard to find terrible pizza, but you know.

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Speaker 5: But there's even still there's pizza, still pizza.

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Speaker 1: We know what better In New York City, you have

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Speaker 1: to like actively try to find bad pizza.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying Tommy and Sexy read or too bros.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually that bad. That's not what I'm saying. What

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Speaker 5: it's everywhere.

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Speaker 9: Two bros.

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Speaker 5: Is good though it's not bad to dollar sce is

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Speaker 5: not bad at who broke?

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Speaker 1: Were not listen, We're not even going down this whole

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Speaker 1: two Broses of dollar slights. That's they brought the dollar

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Speaker 1: five hours. I don't want to hear that. That's bad

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Speaker 1: when you are literally getting what you're paid for. Yeah, literally,

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Speaker 9: It's cheap.

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Speaker 5: They got rid of the dollars slights. Two bros. Came

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Speaker 5: around what like twenty ten or some ship. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: they brought that ship back in twenty ten. I needed

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Speaker 5: a dollar spicce. Yeah, I'm gonna save my fucking.

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Speaker 6: Life to l i U.

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Speaker 9: I ate that ship for dinner every day.

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Speaker 5: Is this like, well, you can't do right, it's a dollar.

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Speaker 5: But you also wouldn't use the term this don't miss

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say two bros, don't miss it. They

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Speaker 1: They know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 5: Every single dollar enough cheese.

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Speaker 1: Get out of here with that bump slice. Man, that's

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Speaker 1: a terrible slice of too, bro.

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Speaker 5: And it's a factory. You just have to wait in

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Speaker 9: With the mango madness.

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Speaker 5: Come on now, Oh wow, mango madness is fire.

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Speaker 1: The marriage used to be a chicken head. You see

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Speaker 1: mango madness snapper. Mango madness snapper and the slice. That's

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Speaker 4: Smell the pink oil moisturized right there.

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Speaker 8: I know you all talking about pink, talk about pink

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Speaker 8: all this ship I have.

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Speaker 3: I have grown sisters. I lived in the house with

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Speaker 3: all kinds of everything.

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Speaker 5: I've seen it all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, pink pink oil straightening combs in the kitchen

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Speaker 3: growing up in the black house, it's just right there.

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Speaker 1: For who was who a lod was burnt? I smell

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Speaker 1: Don't talk about that.

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Speaker 5: Exposed like burnt hair, tom don't tom right hair, Tommy.

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Speaker 5: A lot of these pots and pans look like we

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Speaker 9: And that's what that cooking crack no, like, because.

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Speaker 5: What is happening right now? Like what are you asking me?

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Speaker 9: I really had a wrist.

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Speaker 1: I've never done that. I've never done those things.

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Speaker 5: Hypothetically, like for hypothetically, like the way people lyeing raps,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, we could break that

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Speaker 1: down and that's gonna it's gonna lock up, its gonna

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Speaker 2: When I met you, you worked at the hospital, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: had great times at the hospital. Shout out to the

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Speaker 1: You didn't have a ton of lot Yeah, healthcare on

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Speaker 1: the East Coast saying yeah, that's what that's gotta count

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Speaker 1: for something. Yeah, but Tommy, Yeah, I can hear this song.

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Speaker 5: It's just a snippet. Yeah, it's a snippet.

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Speaker 1: Don't I don't you know, I'm not clicking on the

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Speaker 1: Tommy Richmond snippet but you know, y'all said, he don't miss.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if you don't miss.

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Speaker 5: I get the formula.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we'll ever get a sexy read album

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Speaker 2: or she just gonna be the personality insert verse.

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Speaker 9: I think they're already released.

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Speaker 5: I know, I'm saying again.

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Speaker 1: We may be down to only maybe really seeing consistent

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Speaker 5: You're not wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are just singles, you know,

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Speaker 1: days are we're further away from those days than we

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Speaker 4: To those days.

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Speaker 3: It almost feels like it's it's more troubling. It's worth

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Speaker 3: have this massive success from a single, Yeah, and here

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Speaker 3: you are putting all this time and then but I

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, are still because very much need.

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Speaker 2: The rumor wants to hear that, and is that's how

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Speaker 5: It's aboudy.

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Speaker 2: But these new artists, especially if you signed to a major,

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Speaker 2: If I look what a single does with no overhead

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Speaker 1: Then I got to both the songs, the songs we

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Speaker 1: for you know, social media, just to have that one

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Speaker 1: twenty seconds of a song that's like, they love that.

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Speaker 1: They love that part of the record. You may not

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Speaker 1: We saw the artist that was mad at his show

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Wise's name leaving me right now,

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Speaker 1: Steve Lake, Yeah, it mad and everybody, you know, you

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Speaker 1: when he got mad at everybody was coming to that's

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Speaker 1: a song again, you know player, that's the point. Everybody

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Speaker 5: This is nothing.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do this too. But yeah, when they were

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Speaker 1: coming into his show just for that song, because that

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Speaker 1: know how much other shit? That's like asking Prince Well

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Speaker 1: not to compare him to Prince, but if everybody just

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Speaker 1: wants to hit purple rain, right, Prince's like, y'all know

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Speaker 1: how much other dope shit? I got, Like, why y'all

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Speaker 1: just so again? Music is being made for just that

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Speaker 5: I like that twenty seconds.

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Speaker 1: I could post my picture, my carousel on social media

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Speaker 1: So would why would I label want an entire album

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Speaker 3: I think, well, number one, if they haven't, If they're

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Speaker 1: No, but not if it is in logic, Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: if they have a six if they're having different artists.

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Speaker 1: You know, the clickable every time, you know, traction impressions,

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Speaker 1: they visit it. They making money like that. Now with

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Speaker 1: I just need them to be you know, sexy. I

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Speaker 1: I need them to have some personality.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 3: And you set up an industry where we lose forty

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Shit turns into McDonald's so fast food. The cultural aspect

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Speaker 3: big picture, you are arranging a business. You're setting up

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Speaker 3: Certain songs fit certain moves, if ever, songs coming from

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Speaker 3: a collection that makes you sit down and go damn,

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Speaker 3: people who reasonable doubt and the blueprint go back and

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Speaker 3: it's I say all that to say, I think it's

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Speaker 3: And I don't think this practice is healthy.

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Speaker 5: But is that a music problem or just a world problem?

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Speaker 2: The music business had good intentions and wanted to train

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Speaker 2: the new consumers to love bodies of work and real musicians,

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Speaker 2: you're trying to teach a brain that can't be taught

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Speaker 2: that because the environment they're in now is microwave as is,

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Speaker 2: like they can't be purest in one thing and also

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Speaker 2: get raised on TikTok for fifteen seconds. Well like, their

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Speaker 3: I get I get that, But you don't stay a kid,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Nobody stays a kid.

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Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I date kid things when

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the labels got into the tech business.

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Speaker 5: They're not really in the music business anymore.

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Speaker 2: Like they own twenty five percent of spot if they

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Speaker 2: already own. So these execs are not viewing it from

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Speaker 2: a music standpoint. You know, you don't have the NERVs anymore.

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Speaker 2: You know, the dames like these people are in that

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Speaker 2: office looking at analytics and tech. That's about it. They're

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Speaker 4: Hence the problem.

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Speaker 2: Like even with that whole TikTok shit back and forth

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Speaker 2: the Universal you looked at Universal's overall goals, one percent

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Speaker 2: of Universal's business was UMG, that's crazy. Yeah, UMG, which

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Speaker 5: Overall go They don't give a fuck, that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I don't want to complain because I think

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Speaker 2: there's a balance, like what Mass Appeal just announced seven

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Speaker 2: Deep Rakwon, Daylight Soul, Like there is still a balance.

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Speaker 2: We can't be the old people that just Yeah, but

447
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,960
Speaker 2: you all about that because there is if you go

448
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,119
Speaker 2: and search for it in the streaming era. That is

449
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,199
Speaker 2: one of the positive things about it. You don't have

450
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,480
Speaker 2: to deal with what the machine is putting out. You

451
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,119
Speaker 2: can go search for your own music. Yeah, but their

452
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,480
Speaker 2: own play the ship.

453
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,560
Speaker 1: The thing about this is you're talking about we don't

454
00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,080
Speaker 1: have to be the old These are all old artists,

455
00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm saying.

456
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,040
Speaker 5: There's still there's still a balance. I want to hear.

457
00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,879
Speaker 5: I'm thirty four. I want to hear from all of

458
00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,359
Speaker 5: these people.

459
00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're a different thirty four.

460
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a fact. You're that's a fact.

461
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,040
Speaker 1: You're you're you're you're into a different a different part

462
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,360
Speaker 1: of the culture and the industry of the artistry, the.

463
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,640
Speaker 3: Music intersection is different than the average thirty four year

464
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 3: old number one number two. Where are where's the room

465
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,919
Speaker 3: for the people that this group inspired? Like, where are

466
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 3: the kids who are inspired by ghost Face of the

467
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,359
Speaker 3: rappers who are inspired by nurs Where's the room for

468
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 3: the Symbers and the you know, uh, what's the boy

469
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 3: out of Houston Marcus Clay, Like, Where's I'd like to

470
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 3: see space for them because it's not it's not really

471
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,439
Speaker 3: even an age thing at this point for me.

472
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,200
Speaker 4: It's a class thing.

473
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Jid's about to put out album, would you

474
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 2: he's inspired by lest I'd like more.

475
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 3: I'd like more, That's all I'm saying. And again, the

476
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 3: overall health of the business. If money is your goal,

477
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 3: the big play would seem to be the one to make,

478
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 3: as opposed to the short term quick flip trying to

479
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 3: trying to regurgitate the exact same thing over and over again.

480
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 2: The rapper might just drove an incredible album that I

481
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 2: could tell was definitely influenced by Doom Ghosts all them

482
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 2: like it's there, No, it's not in your Facebook? Since

483
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,199
Speaker 2: when was that ever in our face? Like let's not

484
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 2: act like in the nineties early two thousands, like real

485
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: hip hop just fell from the fucking heavens and that's

486
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 2: what was played on the radio all the time, that

487
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: was on MTV, Like even the stuff we love you

488
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 2: still had to search for, like like, yes, there's one

489
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 2: ghost Face single that would make it, but like you

490
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: still it was still technically underground in the nineties. I mean,

491
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 2: Wu Tang would have singles obviously, but.

492
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,119
Speaker 3: Okay, and that's that's a lot of members. There's a

493
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 3: lot of people right there.

494
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 2: You don't think there was quote unquote mainstream bullshit being

495
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 2: played in the late nineties early two thousand on the

496
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 2: radio constantly that hip hop purists complained about all the.

497
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: Time bullshit on the radio. Yeah, it was hard to

498
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: hear bullshit on the radio.

499
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, we might be mixing up errors.

500
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 5: Early two thousands.

501
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: I loved Nelly, but all the older people on my block,

502
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 2: older friends, cousins, whatever, with just trash man while you

503
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 2: listen to they would just call.

504
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 5: It some queens.

505
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: They would just call it shit, old mainstream bullshit, like

506
00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 2: they wanted to hear the purest shit.

507
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is great, yeah, I mean, but you know,

508
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: there's also taste. Everybody has different tastes. You can't Nelly

509
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 3: had bars if you if that, if you focused on him,

510
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: he had some rhymes that actually, oh shit, that's kind

511
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: of cool.

512
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 8: When the young kids will say the same thing to

513
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 8: y'all about their artists.

514
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 1: They can't tell me none of these niggas got.

515
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 8: Boughed, because well not. I wouldn't say none. I think

516
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 8: it's less than it used to be. But a lot

517
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 8: of people will complain about some of the subject matter.

518
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 8: But that's what's hot on the radio right now.

519
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 5: People.

520
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 9: What's on people's albums is different.

521
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 8: People will talk about different things on their albums and

522
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 8: stuff that y'all might not hear.

523
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 9: But the singles year they are going to go with.

524
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 5: When Snap music took over, what was a nast time.

525
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: We was going through something that was just a weird like, no,

526
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: they're not that was just a weird time for rap.

527
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm not mad at the music and having

528
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 1: fun because I'm from the era kidd and play in

529
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: Kwame like they was having fun and dancing and shit

530
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: like that. So I understand that part of it, like

531
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: the Snap ship, but they was also it was also

532
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: just a certain level of ramen that had that hat

533
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 1: like you could have fun, but you still had to

534
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: be rhymen. Though they lost soul was fun. Yeah, rapping

535
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: was a prerequisite.

536
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: Let's say there was a floor and we we I

537
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: think a lot of times we forget that Big Pun

538
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: had records in the club. Public Enemy had records in

539
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: the club. EPM D Headbanger went off in the club

540
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: like Crossover played in the club. Depending on what club

541
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: you went to. In the club, thank you, But everybody

542
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: had different tastes, you know if you didn't. I'm a

543
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 3: hip hop d right, I'm not not necessarily a rap fan.

544
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm a hip hop head. I listened to the hip.

545
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: Hop Okay, I was about to say, explain the difference in.

546
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 4: There are plenty of people.

547
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 3: There are plenty of people who like rap music right,

548
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: and for them it could sound like whatever rap sounds

549
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: like to them. I'm a hip hop d I like graffiti,

550
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 3: like break dancing. I appreciate d jaying and I listened

551
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: to it. Seeds who are really who really have something

552
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: to say?

553
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: Right?

554
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: When I'm talking to the youth, I even hate using

555
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,239
Speaker 3: that expression, But when I'm talking to kids who are

556
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: just coming off the porch, I've heard shit like these

557
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: niggas got too many words?

558
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, what what that's?

559
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: Because the kids these days are too much high fruit

560
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: those concert the attention to detail is very short, you

561
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like they don't they want to

562
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: They want to fee, they microwave babies, they want it

563
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 1: right now.

564
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to feel more than they want anything else.

565
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: Like it's all about the vibe. It doesn't even have

566
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: to what he's saying is relevant, Which is why I

567
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: think communication is such a lost art. You think losing

568
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 3: cursive is bad, Like, wait till they can't actually speak

569
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: to you?

570
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that we're already there.

571
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, baby again.

572
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: I just think there was already a form of that

573
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: even when Puff came around, and like people were shitting

574
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: on a lot of the stuff that Puff was doing.

575
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: From the purest perspective, happened. This has happened in every

576
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: era of hip hop. So as much as I hate

577
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: this generation, and I'll be the first one to not

578
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: tiptoe around and be like, no, it's something from no

579
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: everyone sucks. Yeah, but like I'm with that, But this

580
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: it's always been an era where people thought the bullshit

581
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: was on top in mainstream and in our faces before

582
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: the good ship.

583
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you missed the point of now they're pushing

584
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: more of the bullshit because it's more of the bullshit

585
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: to push in here because you can literally upload your

586
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: bum ass project the same day Beyonce puts her album

587
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: out on the same digital platform.

588
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: And okay, but which one is getting play later? Which

589
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: one's gonna be on the main page?

590
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 5: Which one is? Sound are good?

591
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: And your bullshit ass album? Twelve seconds of a song

592
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 1: that's gonna end up on everybody's fucking pa the.

593
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: Right hashtag will have you neck and neck with her

594
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: for him?

595
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, like yo, what do we Okay?

596
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 2: But is that not just another version of the one

597
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: hit wonder? Like, no disrespect to like mimes, because I

598
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: love this is why I'm hot? But is that not

599
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 2: the same version? Did they not push that record?

600
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 5: Crazy? I'm not saying it's a one hit one.

601
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they didn't yet, But this difference is

602
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: being one hit wonder and with some of these some

603
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: of these dudes are a twelve second wonder.

604
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because that's the attention span is shrunk to

605
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: the point where the one hit wonder is now a

606
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: twelve second one. And again, it's not good for the

607
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: overall health of the industry, that's the only point that's

608
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: that especially, but without getting scientific, that for sure, But

609
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: as someone who exists in this business, fellas, whoever's like

610
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: in control of this, whoever's in charge, fellas, This is

611
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: not a good idea, like to keep going in this direction.

612
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: The people who are pushing the buttons on this, this

613
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 3: is not a good We can't sustain this model. It

614
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: won't last. This is not a good idea, and the

615
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: crash will be epic.

616
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 5: What is a career right now?

617
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: It's subjective.

618
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 5: It's being a personality so that you also make music.

619
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: Totally subjectial, totally subjective, totally when I sit down with it,

620
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: when I if I'm ever sitting down with an artist,

621
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: I have a client, my first question is, all right,

622
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: what what what are you looking for? What do you

623
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: want this to be? Show me what success looks like

624
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: to you? And the answers as I've gone on have

625
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: gotten weird, wide and weird, Like I've heard everything from

626
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: I want to use this to launch my clothing label.

627
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: I want to use this to get into movies. I

628
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: just want some commercials to I want a tour. I

629
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: don't really want to put albums out. I just want

630
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 3: to be on tour. I'm not really looking to, you know,

631
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: be albums or yo. I'm trying to do, Like you know,

632
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get that Drake Run going. I'm trying

633
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: to you know, ten years, a bunch of different albums.

634
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: I want Grammys, I want plaques. But the list is

635
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: like why some people just want to be known on

636
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: their block. Like you asked me what a career is,

637
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: they don't know because they rarely see one. Like you said,

638
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: it's right in the pocket of what you're saying. The

639
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: examples are not really there to show you why. It

640
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: depends on where you're looking. Because if I'm looking at

641
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: a drill rapper and he's his age, he's famous in

642
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 3: our school, and my world revolves around this one neighborhood

643
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: in this one school, this kid is like the hero,

644
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter that he won't be here next year.

645
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that he's got like maybe one or

646
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: two of these songs in him and then people get

647
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 3: bored and move on to the very next one. If

648
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: he even gets that second one off, he could be

649
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: gone by the second one. Again, the health of the

650
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: business like trying to sustain that shit, and I'm just

651
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: thinking about the overall, Like the music industry has done

652
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: plenty of good for plenty of people as foul as

653
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: it is, but it's no fouler than any other business,

654
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: no foul any other industry. We talk about this one

655
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 3: because it's the one we're in. We talk about it

656
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: like sometimes we talk about it like it's a unicorn.

657
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: Like if you go into textile manufacturing, they don't have

658
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: the exact same kind of fluck shit happening over there.

659
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: It's everywhere. This is the one I care about because

660
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: this is the one I'm involved in, and it fellas

661
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: the overall health of what you're doing is not You

662
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: can't sustain this, and the crash looks crazy to me

663
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: almost we CDs are not really a thing anymore. You're

664
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: gonna buy a bunch of flash drives and push your

665
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: music on the street. That way, like it's going back

666
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 3: to the trunk is almost non existent. We've almost made

667
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: it so you can't. The laptops don't play CDs, they

668
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: only play flash drives. Flash drops cost a little bit

669
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: too much money, and I have to get an adapted

670
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: to put the flash rubber with certain m hm, you

671
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean. The technologist box you out of

672
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 3: being able to do it hand to hand. So where

673
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: do you go when when the apps completely lock up

674
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 3: or or social media completely decides to shut that door. Yeah,

675
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the health of the artist. The new

676
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: hand to hand is spamming ig comments gross gross? Is it?

677
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 6: No?

678
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 5: That is true.

679
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: It's going onto a blog page and saying, yo, am

680
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: I trash or fire click here to find out.

681
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 5: And that's that's the new master.

682
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: P off the trump marketing. Yeah, that's that's the marketing.

683
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: I want to pivot back to the to the mass,

684
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: the Pill seven seven album thing. Who do we think

685
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: is going to be the.

686
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: Surprise return rock Him Cool g rap, Big Daddy Kane,

687
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: Like I can see.

688
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: Big Daddy King will be crazy. What do we think

689
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: this big album is going to sound like? And who's

690
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: producing on it?

691
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 5: Hello?

692
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: No, bigger would be Lord for that, Like if it's

693
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: not if digging into creating involved, I don't know if

694
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: I you don't even want it, I don't. I don't

695
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: want to hear rehashed. I hope they got fresh verses

696
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 3: number one. I hope they got fresh verses number two.

697
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: Lord finess show business AG definitely need to be represented.

698
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: And then I want to know who the executive producer is,

699
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: who's in charge of the sound bad don't know who's

700
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: directing it.

701
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 5: I would love.

702
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, or I mean Premier was executive producer a

703
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: Big Picture, which was which then to me, doesn't sound

704
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: like a post depth album at all.

705
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 5: Like I'm quite a fucking classic album.

706
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: If it's Primo, I'm quite Oh what if it's Most Death.

707
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: What if the surprise artist is Most Death?

708
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: That makes sense, but they already announced the Most and

709
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: Alchemists album. Yeah, and Most is not putting his ship

710
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: on any streaming. He's made that clear, which I appreciate.

711
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: True.

712
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: But even with that said, like I would love now

713
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: that Cam and Mace are back like children in the

714
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: Corner reunion all that it should just be Harlem shit

715
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: on that big l that the ship that we we fire,

716
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: that we've been deprived.

717
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: Of children of the corn, that y'all swinging for the defenses. Now,

718
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: why I'm not mad at I'm not mad at the attempt.

719
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 5: Cam sounds like he's in shape when he does those

720
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: freestyle No, that's a fact.

721
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: No, Cam is Camp is definitely and Maces Mace, and

722
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: Mace's Mace is underrated. If one of the most underrated artists,

723
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: I think we have but I think we would have.

724
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: I don't think those gentlemen would have kept that underwrap.

725
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 5: I think they would be right here with us. Like like,

726
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 5: you think Mace's underrated absolutely as a rap not as

727
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: like he gets his just dude for the singles Harlem

728
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: all the rapper you was.

729
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: Out, Mace is under Mace was a superstar.

730
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 6: Bro.

731
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 8: You know what.

732
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: Mace had singles with Mariah Carrey.

733
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: Let me let me do this. I think.

734
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: He is rated fairly in the circles I'm in. Those

735
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: are specific, like I've never heard about overall. Yeah, okay,

736
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: all Rightoper.

737
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Under Mace doesn't get talked about enough. He kept the

738
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: lights on that bad boy.

739
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: That's preaching to the quiet.

740
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I know because you're from that too, But

741
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like people don't know and they don't

742
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: recognize that.

743
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: That's that's hard for me to because of the circles.

744
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: You're just grasp Yeah, I guess I'm talking.

745
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: About the casual and we just start talking to people

746
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: and come in. In the past, I don't talk to casuals.

747
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just said the other day, I don't

748
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: want to talk. I just said other day, I don't

749
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: want to talk to nobody that didn't use a landline. Like,

750
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: if you didn't use a landline, I don't.

751
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: I don't.

752
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 5: You're not debating what you know.

753
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: You can you can label it whatever you want to

754
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: lead this backpack and snob whatever it is.

755
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't talk to casual I just saw J one

756
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: tweet I don't talk to people under twenty six about music.

757
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 5: I was like, that was very liberal under twenty six. Really,

758
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 5: you're a really nice person for twenty six twenty six?

759
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 5: What kind of conversation about rap? What I have with

760
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 5: a twenty six year old?

761
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: Well, I've had conversations with you when you were twenty

762
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: six about rap, but the again, you're different, But.

763
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 5: Like Roy didn't know how to take things.

764
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: When we ready established Roryes just you know, I could

765
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: just see.

766
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 5: But it comes from a good place. No, No, but

767
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 5: you absolutely you you.

768
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: You've listened to enough and you know, have studied enough

769
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: of the things that have happened to be able to

770
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: speak on it. But now today I don't even know

771
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: a twenty six year old that I would want to

772
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: talk about hip hop with that that isn't like maybe

773
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: you know from that tree of their parents are into

774
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: the industry and things like that, if it's just a

775
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: casual twenty six years, I'm scared to even hear what

776
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: they might say.

777
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: Well, a casual fan at any age is a casual fan, like.

778
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, But a casual fan in ninety eight versus a

779
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: casual fan in twenty twenty five.

780
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: He's he's still a casual fan. He's still telling you

781
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: he can only name the songs that was on the radio.

782
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: He's he's still a casual.

783
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: But I feel like casual one. I stop myself because

784
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: I was about to say some bullshit. I used to

785
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: think that casual fans didn't even want a debate, but now,

786
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: after the last year and a half debate, I have

787
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: noticed that those are the main people that debater.

788
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 5: Those are the great Those are great debate to be

789
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 5: a casual fan just like yeah whatever, like I like this, yeah.

790
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 5: Now the main people that want to argue with people

791
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 5: that are missing for why do you.

792
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 3: Think I have that loko on my face when I

793
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: say battle throw bro, I'm not. I'm not like that

794
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: that you know me, you've known me forever.

795
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm not like that.

796
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: I talked to everybody about everything, but lately the conversations.

797
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: These guys are so like wrong and strong is a

798
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: real thing, and it's like the gospel. Yo, he's the goat, bro,

799
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: Just say he's your favorite. Yeah, say he's Just say

800
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: he's your favorite. Just you like him better than everybody else.

801
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: That's cool.

802
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: Now he's the goat? All right?

803
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: What?

804
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 5: What by?

805
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: What metric? What's standard? I don't know what you mean?

806
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 5: Damn it. I'm instantly pissed. How are you measuring?

807
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 4: Tell me what?

808
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: What?

809
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 4: What are we judging by?

810
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: It?

811
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 5: Like?

812
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: Is are we talking sales? Are we talking Grammys? Talking shows?

813
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: We're talking influence, We're talking bars, We're talking features, Like

814
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: give me the criteria?

815
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: Who is the goat in your opinion?

816
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: Oh shit?

817
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: Again, all those questions have to come into have to

818
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: come into play. There are a lot of people who.

819
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying you, if somebody asks you, you're met, who

820
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: is your goat that we all have in our mind?

821
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: Who is our I just have my favorite? Like the

822
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 3: greatest is all accolades for me? So who's got who's

823
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: put up the most accolades?

824
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: Who's your greatest?

825
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 6: And you.

826
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: It's hard to make it pass hole like's and that

827
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: seems like such a cliche answer. But when you talk

828
00:34:54,160 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: about all the boxes that need to be checking, cultural influence, bars, awards, plaques, features,

829
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: uh test the time, influence is huge. Influences a huge.

830
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: The man put industries out of business. It's not wearing

831
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 3: jerseys because he said so. Didn't buy an X five

832
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: because he said so. You put on an oversized button

833
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: up shirt because he said so.

834
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: He didn't kill Auto Tune or Tims though.

835
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: They took a hit.

836
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 5: They took a hit. Who took a hit?

837
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: Tims definitely took ahead.

838
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go through two thousand the numbers. I

839
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: want to see see Zimmelin's tax returns. I promise you

840
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: when him and Drake said we off that nobody was off,

841
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 2: that all of us.

842
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 5: Off it for like all of us kept.

843
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: The like four or five months. They took it and

844
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: then they got right back. They got cold again. They

845
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: said that. They said that in the summer.

846
00:35:55,160 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 5: Because I wear forty blows and shorts. Wow, that's where

847
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 5: school that schools shooter contour. Wait wait wait.

848
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: School forty below the gene short. Yeah, yeah, he about

849
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: to go shoot some ship up.

850
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 5: I'm channeling Colinbine and Prodigy. You need it's a leather jack.

851
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: And you also you're channeling rimy from higher learning as well.

852
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 5: I did that with a haircut already, so exactly loud

853
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 5: and clear.

854
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and.

855
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 5: Yeah auto tune just got better. But Hova has killed

856
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff.

857
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: That was the two things that we quietly as hop stands,

858
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 2: don't bring up that just was not killed whatsoever.

859
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 5: But I mean it's hoving that everyone else.

860
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: Even we're talking three for five, like three out of

861
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: five is no, I'm just out of what we named

862
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: just now it's three for five.

863
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: I mean I always go back to, you know, just seeing,

864
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, having a lot of dope artists in one

865
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: room and seeing it firsthand, and then seeing when you

866
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: walks in that room, like you can just see the

867
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: difference in the respect level from artists that are huge

868
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: and have accomplished a lot, but when it's Jay that

869
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: walks in the room, it's just a certain level of

870
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 1: And then from the guys that I think are goals

871
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: like rock Him. When I see the way Rock Him

872
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: embraces j and things like that, when you see those

873
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: guys the way they put their arms around him, I

874
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: think that is clear that he is the one that

875
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: they look at.

876
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 3: I've been in rooms with Buster and and arm for him.

877
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: I've watched other stars get starstruck around him. For sure,

878
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: Trevoro will walk up singing his verse flifting power from

879
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: across the room, starts screaming out past the kevasier, like

880
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: you know, he may have had a couple, buddy, I'm bullsitting,

881
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: but you know, singing this allt like I've seen that.

882
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: I also saw with a compliment from j meant to

883
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: bus right. I see one guy who influences a bunch

884
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: of people. I see another guy who influenced a bunch

885
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: of people. But a lot of people didn't try to

886
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: be like Buster, right, is on that one on one ship?

887
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they couldn't. You would have loved Corny trying. Yeah,

888
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 5: he's got children, He's got children.

889
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: I see influence, but a lot of people didn't try

890
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: to be like But I saw a lot of motherfuckers

891
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: try to be like Jack.

892
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

893
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 4: And to the voice, what was the boy's name, Sakaria?

894
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: There was was Ario?

895
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 5: We wrapped with Andreie Martinez. Yeah, to the voice, like

896
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: was no, it is fire?

897
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: If Jay didn't exist, Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying,

898
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: Like if we didn't have that guy to go to, it.

899
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: May seem more success.

900
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, first felt the same way.

901
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loved going to that. That's not something that

902
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: I didn't come up with that. No, but you loved

903
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: going to I didn't say you come up with I don't.

904
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 5: Actually think I said you loved that way whatsoever?

905
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 8: Actually you do?

906
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 5: I really don't. You bring that up way too much.

907
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 5: That's the whole the same way that the stereotype is

908
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 5: nods picks bad beats. I think that's a stupid stereotype

909
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: that hip hop has just taken on.

910
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if people say id, but he wrapped

911
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: on a lot of bad beats though.

912
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's had a thirty year career. It's going to happen,

913
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 5: and he put out once a year.

914
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: He also he also m hm okay, he also this

915
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: is weird.

916
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: No, it's weird to say. I interviewed him and I

917
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: asked him about that about the beat selection.

918
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

919
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: Actually, actually he's one of my cover stories, one of

920
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 3: my proudest moments.

921
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

922
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, many moons ago, sitting in the Spotted Pig, his restaurant,

923
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: we were like upstairs where no one was me and

924
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: him and Gabe from death chambe Yeah, for real, insane

925
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: human being.

926
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: I asked him why he did that?

927
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: Why did you pick bad beasts?

928
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like I don't, I don't remember the exactly

929
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: the way I had to.

930
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: I had to.

931
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 5: I'm in a room.

932
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: I can't be I can't be biased, and I'm from Queens.

933
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: You know this is like the guy. If I don't

934
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: ask this question.

935
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: You're not asking any questions.

936
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 4: You ask that one. Everybody else is at the office.

937
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: What the fuck did you do? I'll never get another

938
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: story again in my life. I'll never get a feature

939
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 3: again in my life. So I ad and his answer

940
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: surprised me. Two questions I asked him that His answer

941
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: surprised me.

942
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 4: One.

943
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: I asked him, like why he got married at the

944
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: time he was married to Kalise, just wanted and he said,

945
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: all my heroes have been married men. Everybody I've ever

946
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: looked up to it have been married men. Besides the

947
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: fact that I think my wife was made for me,

948
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: All my heroes in life have been married men.

949
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 5: Respect.

950
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 4: I was like, okay.

951
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 3: He started like rattling Malcolm ICs blah blah blah blah,

952
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: all man, Okay, got it.

953
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 4: The beats thing. I was like, you know, the story

954
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 4: is you pick bad beats. What's up with that?

955
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: And he goes, I want people to pay more attention

956
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: to what I'm saying than what the beat sounds like.

957
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: You can't ever think that. I don't get offered all

958
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: every beat under the sun from every producer under the sun.

959
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: And I kind of gave him like a little side eye,

960
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: and he said, think about it. I always give you one.

961
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: I know what you want every album, I give you

962
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: at least one to two. I make it a to

963
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: do that. But I don't want to beat. He basically said,

964
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to beat to be more important than

965
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I'm not picking like the superhillous beats.

966
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: But I do that when it's time to And he

967
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: starts rattling off his albums and he's naming the tracks

968
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: on those albums where the beat is crazy, and he's

969
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: going crazy. He was like, but I'm not going to

970
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: do that like every time. Whether you believe him or not,

971
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: whether you believe him or not is irrelevant.

972
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm not.

973
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that, because again, I never thought

974
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: that NAS's beats were, you know, in every like every

975
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: track on every album was terrible, but there was some

976
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: joints like to me, you know, the battle with him

977
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: and Jay To this day, I think ether is one

978
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: of the worst beats.

979
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 5: I don't disagree with there.

980
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: Ever, that the fact that he's on there going at

981
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Jay kind of to what he gets old overlooked, and

982
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: that's what he's saying.

983
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: If you go to YouTube now and just type in

984
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: ether instrumental without nas on it, you would be like,

985
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: what the fuck did this guy even here in that studio?

986
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 5: How did this even make it? Onto adapt?

987
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's not finished, but this is to Brown.

988
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: He did.

989
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: He has that's just beat for in that moment, It's like,

990
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: why did you how did you plan on that?

991
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: Look fits right into the answer that he gave.

992
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was effective.

993
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: Where he's after he said that his whole career just

994
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 3: kind of like shifted over a little bit, his whole desography.

995
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: You look at it way different. You look at the

996
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: songs where he's really saying some ship and those beats

997
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: are kind of not the greatest that he could have found.

998
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 3: But his whole thing to me was do you really

999
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: think I don't get those beats?

1000
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: First?

1001
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: You think they don't send those to me. Yeah, I'm

1002
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: just at definitely think he does. But I love Nas

1003
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: one of the you know, one of my hip hop heroes,

1004
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: but he's absolutely insane for passing on some of the

1005
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: ship that I know he's heard like and didn't be

1006
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: like nah, but you know what I'm saying, I really

1007
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: want to get off on this, okay, because what I'm

1008
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: saying is gonna overshine.

1009
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: Did you think the hate Me and Now beat was fire?

1010
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: It wasn't terrible. That's a great beat. Yeah, it wasn't.

1011
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: Nas got killed for doing that, Like he can't win

1012
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: for losing if he went even I'm on the side

1013
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: of you Owe Me as fire, but Nas got killed

1014
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: for that. Anytime he's went the route of the beats

1015
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: that people want him to do, he gets killed for it.

1016
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think he got killed more for you

1017
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: Owe Me, because you Owe Me is incredible. The hook

1018
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: and then genuine it was just too much. It felt

1019
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: too industry shiny two record two record industrys fives in

1020
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: that hook, like y'all made this and said like, oh

1021
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: we got radio with this, like and I hate more

1022
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: rappers do that.

1023
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 9: But that's not fair because Jay did that a lot too,

1024
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 9: and he's don't getting killed for it.

1025
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: Every rapper does that. Jay got killed for what I

1026
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: was young. So yeah, Jay got killed for a lot

1027
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: of joints. I mean most of Volume one. He got

1028
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: killed for his sunshine. He had this, this shiny, great

1029
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: record record. I love the record, but he got killed

1030
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: for that. Every rapper has to have, especially then, and

1031
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: you have to have that moment where it's like, Okay,

1032
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: I'm in the music business now I have to kind

1033
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: of like adhere to what the labels are saying they

1034
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: want and they need.

1035
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: His answer, his answer for doing his answer for owe

1036
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: me when I asked him, was I wanted to show

1037
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: them that I can do what they do while they

1038
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: can't do what I do. I wanted to go in

1039
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 3: their world and show them I can do this whenever

1040
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: I feel like it, and you can't come in my

1041
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: world and do what I do. But your shit is

1042
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: so easy and this is so candy. I can go

1043
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: over here whenever I want, walk in your world, wipe

1044
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 3: my feet on you on your carpet, and then walk

1045
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: right back out, and you can't follow me and go

1046
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: do the stuff I do again. His the interview put

1047
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: a lot of things in perspective for me.

1048
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean even with that, let's go with

1049
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: NASA's Prime ninety four to two thousand and two, ill madic.

1050
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: It was written I am nostradamis still mad at god Son.

1051
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: Yes you can say Nostra Domas wasn't the one, even

1052
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: though I think comparing to Naz's catalog, yes it's not it,

1053
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: but it's better than half of ever rappers first project ever?

1054
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: Where are their bad beats in those? In everything I

1055
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: just named.

1056
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 5: Ninety four to two thousand and two, Tell me where

1057
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 5: there's bad beats? You can't.

1058
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: You can't even start with the first one. That was

1059
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: the first super producer album. That was like the original experiment.

1060
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: A bunch of super producers get together with this fucking

1061
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 3: prodigy and put together a perfect album.

1062
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 5: It was written, starts with the message I don't have

1063
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 5: the I.

1064
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: Don't have the slanm de fit was written at other

1065
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: people seem now I don't. I don't get it.

1066
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 5: I think I can make a case it's better than Nomadic.

1067
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 4: I've heard that argument before. I don't agree.

1068
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 5: I heard that it has more replay val. Maybe it's

1069
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 5: just because illmatic on it is like thriller. You've heard

1070
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 5: it so many times that you don't always.

1071
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 4: Go back for whatever reason. I like, what did I say?

1072
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm not mad, but it's not better than it?

1073
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't agree, but.

1074
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: Not that.

1075
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 4: I get it.

1076
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: I Am starts with New York State of Mind, Part two,

1077
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: which I could argue is better than the first one.

1078
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: Then to hate Me Now it had it has NASA's

1079
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 5: like on there, like what we talk about with Nas

1080
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 5: and bad beats. He said, this is a stereotype that

1081
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 5: hip hop took on, and because it sounded cool, everyone

1082
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 5: kept going with it.

1083
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: I don't know about that because he knows. He knows he's.

1084
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 5: Because it's been a stigma. But people always say, but nobody,

1085
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 5: nobody gives me the beats that are bad. What's a

1086
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 5: bad beat?

1087
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: On Stealmatic? You're the Man was probably the best beat

1088
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 2: of that year. Now, But you know what, though, because

1089
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: second Childhood is one of the best beats, I.

1090
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 5: Can't staying with Mecha saying though in that in him

1091
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 5: asking Nas that got yourself because now that you're running

1092
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 5: off for the.

1093
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: Titles, I could hear the beat, and I'm like, if

1094
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: I didn't hear NAS rapping on that what. I love

1095
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: that beat though, and.

1096
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: Here we go. You see what I'm saying.

1097
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: The ceiling is different when you start comparing when when

1098
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: you have a rapper who you can only compare to himself.

1099
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: Okay, but what what is a rapper's job when they

1100
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: go into the studio. It is to produce the best

1101
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: song that they can make, right, So if this is

1102
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: what brings out the best Nas and I can say

1103
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: this song is incredible. My ears for hip hop is

1104
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: for the final product of the song. I'm not listening

1105
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: to Got Yourself a Gun and going, you know what?

1106
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: I love this, but let me just go listen to

1107
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: the instrumental and decided.

1108
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 5: Okay, No, NAS took that beat, put his foot in it,

1109
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 5: and created an amazing song. But that's the point of

1110
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 5: a rapper.

1111
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the ones where he was saying,

1112
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: I always give you one. I think that's one like

1113
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 3: you're naming the ones.

1114
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: Though he Got Yourself a Gun smoking, You're the man,

1115
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: rewind one mic second Child destroying, rebuild the fly is

1116
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: rule name a bad beat.

1117
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 5: Again. I get what I'm saying, but everyone needs to

1118
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 5: stop saying about Nas.

1119
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, but there are some of

1120
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: those beats, all right, put it like this, if you

1121
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: run those off, right, But then be like, yo, let

1122
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: me hear the shit you turned down when he was

1123
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: making this album.

1124
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, but that's like, yo, you passed up

1125
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 5: on this. But then again, that's like the difference.

1126
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 3: And we're not in the studio to know exactly which

1127
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: ones he's talking about. But to me, that's something that

1128
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 3: you can't prove.

1129
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 5: And it's like, but on that beat we love, maybe

1130
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 5: NAS wouldn't have done what was supposed to be done

1131
00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 5: on that beat.

1132
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 3: I only I only I asked the question because of

1133
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: the stigma. I only back it up because he acknowledged it.

1134
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: But I again, I only think he acknowledged it because

1135
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: he understands that we're comparing him to him. He's he's

1136
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: in different airspace. J is only whack when you compare

1137
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: him to J. You can't compare a JA to the

1138
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: landscape and say he's whack. Okay, Well, what about this, dude?

1139
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I mean, when you when you

1140
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: start running into the artist where their name alone ends

1141
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: the argument which is which is I hear that a lot?

1142
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 5: But what do you think about this? I mean, I'm

1143
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 5: not NAS, But when you start hearing I mean, I

1144
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 5: ain't JA.

1145
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 4: I mean, but that's j.

1146
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 3: When you start hearing that ship where we're now only

1147
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 3: comparing them to them, you don't compare them to anybody else.

1148
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 3: So NAS is lackluster facade. Stigma is because they're comparing

1149
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: everything to him. They want more. And when he switches

1150
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 3: the tone, when it's no longer the gritty, grimy sound

1151
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: of Illmatic and it's the slick sound of it was written, Ah,

1152
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: come on, man, come on what you're doing, which they

1153
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: want him to follow up a classic. But then when

1154
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: when you have the generation that came in under under

1155
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 3: it was written, well, then the next one sounds kind

1156
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 3: of Ah, come on, bring track Masses back what you're doing?

1157
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, bring Primo back what you're doing?

1158
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: How come you never did the album with prem You know,

1159
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: all that shit catches up and that builds the stigma.

1160
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: But the fact that he acknowledged it tells me that

1161
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: he knows he's turned down some ship. Yeah, absolutely, in

1162
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: order to give us the joint City's given us. But

1163
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: I don't I don't disagree with you.

1164
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 5: Starts with get Down.

1165
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 4: I love that.

1166
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he on that album.

1167
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 3: But that's one of the ones. He actually named that one.

1168
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: He's like, think about it, this one, this one. As

1169
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: you're rattling them off, I'm remembering him saying that one.

1170
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, this one like what I love the I can

1171
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 5: beat in the studio.

1172
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: Probably not, but NASA's vision of that, what he was

1173
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: going to do with the kids on the hook and

1174
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: the message, Yeah, that beat fits what he was supposed

1175
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: to do, and it a classic song and.

1176
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: He also wanted you to hear what he was going

1177
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 3: to say. That's one of those message records.

1178
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it made me. It was like the

1179
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: first time, what are Republicans want in schools now? They

1180
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: want to get rid of?

1181
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, nothing, what's the cultural ship they want to

1182
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: get rid of?

1183
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 4: Prayer?

1184
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 5: See? Yeah, that that ship.

1185
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: That was the first time I felt like the white guilt.

1186
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: I was like, damn we did all that? Yeah, everyone

1187
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: was king.

1188
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 5: He just showed up right.

1189
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: Now, I understand why the Republicans. I was a young

1190
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: white kids do this before we get off music. I

1191
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: want to say I went to a Millie's release party

1192
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 2: last night.

1193
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 5: And that shout out the Millies Blanco seven out right now.

1194
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: He was one of those He was one of those ones.

1195
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: I thought about the white rap Mount Rushmore.

1196
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 5: Oh, he he got out rapped a lot of really names.

1197
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: He got out wrap a few niggas on that Mount

1198
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: Mount rush.

1199
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 5: One hundred percent. Yeah.

1200
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: I want to say this very just to the room.

1201
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: I know we're recording, but if you were wondering where

1202
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: all the pretty women are in New York City, if

1203
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: you cannot find them, they're with Millies.

1204
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 5: All of them, lost one of them. I don't like

1205
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 5: that sounded all the pretty women with Millies. Wait, I

1206
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 5: missed that. Which camera?

1207
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: Millies? I apologize. I knew you were an incredible rapper,

1208
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 2: incredible artist. I was not familiar with your game.

1209
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 4: Bro.

1210
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 5: I've been wondering for the last five years where all

1211
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 5: the women hang out. I did not know they were.

1212
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 4: All with you.

1213
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: It was that Millie's album release.

1214
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: They were all matching him. That's crazy. I was like, damn,

1215
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 5: I didn't get the all white memo, and then I

1216
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 5: realized it was just the women in shout out to Millies.

1217
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 5: Man sounds great.

1218
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: He's one of those ones that's for a few years

1219
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: he's been putting out consistent joints. He's been consistent and

1220
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: anytime you hear Millies, whether it be a freestyle or

1221
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The times him like he's

1222
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: rapping for there's no you know Jada signed him. Yeah,

1223
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: somebody who obviously knows about bars and rapping.

1224
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: So oh I saw I saw Dad Jada last night

1225
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: because you know that's his all course showing up.

1226
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1227
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 5: No, he was exhausted and wanted to go home.

1228
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: He was in the corner like, yeah, I just can't

1229
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: want to go.

1230
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 5: I have to be here for my artist is my guy.

1231
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 5: But no, I want to go to bed. I want

1232
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 5: to go to bed.

1233
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 3: Millies is one of those dudes. I used to add

1234
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: this thing at the beginning of every episode of My

1235
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: Expert Opinion. I was shot out somebody who I thought

1236
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: was dope. He definitely made the list boom me away

1237
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: after the first listen. I've been fucking with him ever since.

1238
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: Milli's villain Park Marcus Clay Ali uh Ali Wow Vegas No, No,

1239
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 3: I damn it.

1240
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 5: I don't do that. Vegas.

1241
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: You know one of my that's one of my favorites. Man,

1242
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite vegas.

1243
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 4: Oh man, I can't remember his name.

1244
00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 5: Well, what made me?

1245
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 4: Ali? I didn't want to forget him out of Philly.

1246
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 4: That boy is a problem.

1247
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 2: Millie is outside of being the talent that he is.

1248
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm just happy that he is carrying the torch to

1249
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: prove that lyrical rappers also get all the women.

1250
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that used to be the thing though, That's

1251
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: what it used to be. Like if you was really nice,

1252
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: like like these hoes love freestyles.

1253
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, you to wait to say that.

1254
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: I figured out last night chicks was bopping their head

1255
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: to to Millie's pain. I was like, oh wow, women

1256
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: are into this bro. There's never been that SB stereotype

1257
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: where there be no chicks. I'm telling you, I'm not

1258
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: saying that in one place. That's that artist in New

1259
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: York and quite some time.

1260
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Millies.

1261
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: Man, There's never been a time in hip hop where

1262
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: the lyrical guy wasn't on top of the food chick.

1263
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 5: Yeah. We talk like it's like there's never been a

1264
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 5: single year in hip hop ever but.

1265
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 3: People with the guy that everybody was scared to rap

1266
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 3: with that guy and he pulled, he did whatever you wanted.

1267
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: There's always been that dude. I hate that stigma.

1268
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely. Yeah, that's a new thing.

1269
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: Since we have to get off music, we have to

1270
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: be messy because it's podcasting. What is going on with

1271
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 2: my expert opinion?

1272
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 5: Do not know the barbershop. I have been just because

1273
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 5: you know, love the show. Fuck with math. I've just

1274
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 5: been paying attention to what's going on. We're not here

1275
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 5: to judge.

1276
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: We understand how fucking crazy it is to try to

1277
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: keep a podcast business going.

1278
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 5: But where does this leave the show?

1279
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,479
Speaker 3: In the hands of the owner? Okay, in the hands

1280
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 3: of the owner. I don't have a lot of information

1281
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: as far as like where it's going to go. I

1282
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: found out a lot of things in real time with

1283
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 3: everybody else. I knew the lights were off, Okay, I

1284
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 3: went to we went to do an episode. I'm the

1285
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: one who called him and told him the lights were off,

1286
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 3: So you know that's jacked up. I told him to

1287
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: fight for the shop, not because not because the aesthetic

1288
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: is so needed, but up because I felt the way

1289
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 3: it was done was dirty. I don't think you should

1290
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: let people get away with the bullshit, so you should.

1291
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 3: You should fight for the shop.

1292
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 5: But you know that the the.

1293
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: Spot isn't the spot, isn't the show. The voices of

1294
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: the show. The energy is the show.

1295
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: You guys.

1296
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: You two could pick up go someplace else and be

1297
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 3: still be Rory and Mall. You think what I'm saying,

1298
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 3: Like when you left when it was Joe Budden and

1299
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: then next thing is Rorian Mal, You're still Rory and Mall.

1300
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 3: My expert opinion will be my expert opinion no matter

1301
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: where it is.

1302
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: It's not.

1303
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 3: I don't like the idea. I don't like the fact

1304
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: that all the business is on Front Street, but that

1305
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 3: wasn't my call either. So we'll see what happens, like,

1306
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: we'll see what shakes out. People are hitting me up

1307
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: for answers that I I'm kind of watching with everybody else, Like, yeah,

1308
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: you know, Mat, can you see what's going on? Yeah,

1309
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: I'm looking right now.

1310
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 4: It's crazy. You have some popcorn. It's nuts. So you

1311
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 4: see this ship? Wow? Fuck?

1312
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 5: Did you see?

1313
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: So you and Math haven't had any personal conversations at

1314
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: all about it.

1315
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 4: We spoke. We spoke.

1316
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 3: Months ago, and we knew that the landlord was like

1317
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: being a little moving from shaky. You see him walking

1318
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: by looking in like when we're filming an episode, but

1319
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: dozens of people walk by and look in you see

1320
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 3: a barber shop with a bunch of bright lights, you

1321
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and microphones? Of course you stop

1322
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: and what the fuck is that? So I didn't pay

1323
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: attention to everybody. I didn't even know what you looked like.

1324
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: And I stayed out of the business part of it.

1325
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: Like if I'm not.

1326
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: Involved, if I'm not directly involved, if I can't help

1327
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form, I'm not injecting my

1328
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: injecting myself into anybody's situation, especially when it comes to finances.

1329
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: Those are your pockets. You spend your money, You do

1330
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: what you do. I don't want to know how much

1331
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: you're making. I don't want to know. I'm from Queen's

1332
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: All I care about is my bread.

1333
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: I don't need.

1334
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 3: I don't want any of yours. I need all of mine.

1335
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 3: That's that's the philosophy. And I'm not I'm not here

1336
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 3: to pocket check or pocket watch you and under any circumstances.

1337
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: So as far as as far as like the the

1338
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: being he did tell us when you know Homeboy was

1339
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 3: trying to after the light thing. Homeboy's trying to kick

1340
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: us out, blah blah blah. Well he needs barbers in

1341
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: his hand is no, he told us all the same

1342
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: stuff that he set online. So yeah, we had that conversation.

1343
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: But wait, the landlord said he needs barbers in the show.

1344
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not saying anything that's not already.

1345
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1346
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 3: Of course there's something in the contract that says you

1347
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: have to have barbers in the chair or like, it's

1348
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: like a sub section where it says you can use

1349
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 3: it for other purposes, right, but the main thing is

1350
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: the barbers. And I can understand that if I'm a

1351
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: landlord and now on the spot and I walk by,

1352
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 3: you know, three or four days out of the week,

1353
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: and the shutters are down and the lights are off,

1354
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: and this is my place, I want to see it active.

1355
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 3: In moving, you don't want your building looking like it's abandoned.

1356
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: Basically, I mean, if the agreement, though is per month,

1357
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: I owe you this, what I do with it is

1358
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: kind of none of your business.

1359
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 3: Unless there's a suspicion that you're doing something.

1360
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 5: Illegal, okay, which obviously was not happening.

1361
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 4: That if we're selling drugs or.

1362
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 5: Camera bru you might have just did something with that.

1363
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 5: We ain't think about that. You what do you think

1364
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 5: RFK was there for? Wow? Wow? O. That was where

1365
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 5: the suspicion started.

1366
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: It's been so shady's been sold on camera before.

1367
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely not when I'm around right now, when I'm around.

1368
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: So you know, some ship makes sense, some shit just doesn't.

1369
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: I didn't communicate with them because I wasn't asked to.

1370
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: And it's it's not it's not my it's not, for

1371
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 3: lack of a better term, it's not my place.

1372
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: Okay, but is that something you at least check in

1373
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: with him on of like the status of like what's happening?

1374
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: Or you have so many resources, I couldn't see why

1375
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: math would hit you to be like, yo, this is

1376
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: what's going on.

1377
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 5: Is there something you can help out with that never happened?

1378
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 4: Okay?

1379
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: Then I just feel like somebody like you would be

1380
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: the first call with the resources that you have and

1381
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: could provide.

1382
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, just keep that movement. But that never happened.

1383
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: Like we are where we if that was the case,

1384
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: I don't think we you know, if he had asked

1385
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 3: and I and I could figure it out, yeah, of

1386
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 3: course I would. When if you ever asked me for something,

1387
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 3: I said, NA, go fuck yourself. Never or like didn't

1388
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 3: even answer the phone for you. Never, Like if I'm

1389
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: not answering the phone. I excuse me if I'm not

1390
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: answering the phone. I'm busy as fuck. I am like

1391
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: working going albums with like an icon, so like my

1392
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: days are jumbled up, and if we're not filming a show,

1393
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: then I have things that I definitely need to put

1394
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: my attention to. Juggling wasn't a problem, and anybody calling

1395
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 3: me for anything, it's nothing to be like, Okay, I

1396
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 3: got you, but like you know, if I don't have it,

1397
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: if I can't help you, I'm not going to pretend

1398
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: I can.

1399
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: Well, you think there's a window with this shit, because

1400
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the podcast world is so unpredictable with fans, algorithms, everything,

1401
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: with the steam that y'all had, you know, being one

1402
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: of the top shows, is the window small to come back?

1403
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: Just the way shit operates and how quick everyone moves.

1404
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: How quick do you think you guys need to come back?

1405
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: It's not risk free, right, I'll give you that. I'll

1406
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: say that it's not.

1407
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 4: I can't. I don't have a.

1408
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: Because they also say absence makes the heart grow fonder,

1409
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: you know, and we were obviously providing something that you know,

1410
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: was different from our peers We don't do what Rory

1411
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: and Mall do. We don't do what Joe Budden does.

1412
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: We don't do what drink Champs does not in the

1413
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 3: same way, we're all doing something different. Your voices are unique. Again,

1414
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: wherever Rory and Mall go, it's Rory and Mall. You

1415
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: can't duplicate the voices. Right wherever my experied opinion goes,

1416
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 3: it's my experied opinion. You can't duplicate the voices. You

1417
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: can't duplicate the energy. So if people miss that, then

1418
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: there's always going to be a window for something that

1419
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 3: somebody misses, you know what I'm saying.

1420
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 4: But maybe the main eyes of like maybe I heard that.

1421
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 5: Sorry the to the casual fan we were having.

1422
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: Like, there's podcasts that I'll watch all the time, and

1423
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 2: if I start clicking other ship and somehow they get

1424
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: out of my algorithm, it's not at the top of

1425
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: my mind because it doesn't pop up. I just think

1426
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: that's how we're kind of trained with everything. Now we've

1427
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: fallen off with podcasts, not because I dislike them, it's

1428
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: because with all the busy shit I'm doing during the day,

1429
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: sometimes my algorithms is what's going to be the thing

1430
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: that I click that day for sure.

1431
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 5: So I'm I mean that that's where I think not

1432
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 5: a window would be small because you.

1433
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: Guys have already built a core fan base that's always

1434
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: going to be there, Like you knows that. Yeah, it's incredible. Like, so,

1435
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: you guys were the only podcasts that I don't want

1436
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: to say late to the party because it sounds like disrespectful,

1437
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: but it's not. When everyone the podcast boom hit, everyone

1438
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: tried to do a podcast and they all failed. You

1439
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: guys were the only ones that came in after like

1440
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: the core and and passed us like what you mean? Yes,

1441
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: the only one And to me that was.

1442
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 5: Like the most unique shit ever.

1443
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: When Matt launched, I was like, oh, this is a

1444
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: really good conversation, but this is when everyone has a

1445
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: fucking podcast because they saw what the rest of us

1446
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: were doing. Yeah, were the only ones post boom that

1447
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 2: actually stayed. So I do think, of course, no matter what,

1448
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: there's the window is open. Yeah, but there's magic with

1449
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 2: because we've been through it, so you know, there's no

1450
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: judgments on this side. We have a little therapy session.

1451
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: What have these ups and downs been like with people

1452
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: leaving the show? Messiness new podcasts every single day, they're

1453
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: talking more about what's going on with the cast rather

1454
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: than the actual show. What has that been like because

1455
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: you've been I feel like the only one from the

1456
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: original cast.

1457
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 4: That's I'm not even the original cast.

1458
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I guess you're right.

1459
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm second generation at best. I'm not even

1460
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 3: original cast. And I think that I think there might

1461
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: have been an iteration between the first and the second.

1462
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 4: I might be third. But the question is what has it.

1463
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: Been like for yeah, navigating with you know now that

1464
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: we have bag Fuel themily even the Space Go situation,

1465
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: Like there's been a lot of drama with that show,

1466
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: and who are we to fucking speak we've had the

1467
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 2: same type.

1468
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: Of ship, but that I don't know if we had

1469
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: the same type of ship.

1470
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 5: Public breakup public and like they, I mean even everybody

1471
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 5: is part of our breakup was on their show, like

1472
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 5: we've Yeah.

1473
01:03:59,000 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 4: How about that?

1474
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 5: How is that then?

1475
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: Because I mean, I know you still have a great

1476
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: relationship with the guys at bag Fuel, and I don't

1477
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: know your situation with Space Ghost, but how have you

1478
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 2: navigated that? Because who gets to in the divorce? But

1479
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: I still love savon but you know it's weird.

1480
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 4: Nothing. Nothing is weird for me.

1481
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 5: It is.

1482
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 3: It is going to sound very anti climatic. I'm chilling, Okay,

1483
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 3: I'm really I'm chilling. I don't have any beef with anybody.

1484
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: I don't have no smoke with nobody. Me and math

1485
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 3: is still in business. Me and s so will cool

1486
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: me and and can it cool? Me and space are

1487
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 3: cool that these these people were mentioned and didn't do

1488
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 3: anything to me, you know what I mean. And I

1489
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: also live by a very specific philosophy. My father told

1490
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 3: me a long time ago, if you didn't disrespt violate

1491
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 3: somebody's kids, violate somebody's wife, send somebody to jail, to

1492
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: take somebody's life, it's not that serious.

1493
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 4: You can work it out.

1494
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 3: You can figure out a way to coexist with that

1495
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: other person on the other side of that thing. Money loss,

1496
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 3: you can give it back, food going, you can give

1497
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 3: it back like tom going. You can, you can make amends,

1498
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 3: you can. You can figure that shit out. Only four

1499
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 3: unforgivables with the ones are just named, and none of

1500
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 3: that happened in any of these situations. Nobody did anything

1501
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 3: to anybody. That's so crazy. You can't get back right,

1502
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: and when I when it's not that, I can't, I

1503
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: don't have it's hard for me to put energy into

1504
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: be friction like whatever you want to call it.

1505
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: It's hard. I don't.

1506
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: They don't have to necessarily be a beef. But outside

1507
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: of those four things, there's things that people can do

1508
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: that would definitely warrant you never fucking with them again.

1509
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: Sure, but even even that doesn't come with any anger,

1510
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't come with als, It doesn't come with any

1511
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: like I'm not looking right. And if it's not that,

1512
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: then what if it's not that, If I'm not looking

1513
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: for you to actively harm you, it's beef. I don't

1514
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 3: understand what we're arguing about it Like we we disagree fundamentally,

1515
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: we're not seeing eye of eye creatively, we go our

1516
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 3: separate ways. When I see you out, yo, what up?

1517
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: How's it going? What's popping? You didn't do nothing to me?

1518
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 3: Like nothing crazy? And if he did something, I got

1519
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: it back. So when we talk about you were never

1520
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: gonna my the philosophy in this business you'll need me

1521
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 3: before I need you. It's always been true every year

1522
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 3: of my career. It's been true. Anyone who's ever tried

1523
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 3: to do me dirty, has had to spin the block

1524
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 3: or look for the better, look for the another me,

1525
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: and end up with the t move version. It's always

1526
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 3: been hilied. I don't I don't even. It's to the

1527
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 3: point where I don't even trip anymore. So I and

1528
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 3: I don't have that situation now.

1529
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: I don't.

1530
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 3: I don't know this landlord, you know what I mean?

1531
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 3: Whatever he did, I don't know the business. I wasn't

1532
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 3: there when the paperwork was signing, the contracts was signed

1533
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: for me to jump in now and go hold on,

1534
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 3: wait a minute, what about this part? I look stupid

1535
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 3: doing that right?

1536
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: Like?

1537
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 5: Whatever he signed the least, I didn't know it was

1538
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 5: a I didn't.

1539
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: Know he was subleasing. I didn't get invite Math owns

1540
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 3: the shop. Okay, cool, he doesn't own the shop. Okay, cool,

1541
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 3: but he's a cool Like what part of finding that out?

1542
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1543
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 3: What part of finding that out changes anything that I

1544
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 3: have to do? My job is to show up, be me,

1545
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: talk about the things I know, research the things I don't,

1546
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 3: and keep the keep the show, keep rep the show,

1547
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: rep the energy, rep the spot. We're out a crew,

1548
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 3: we're out a gang. You know what I'm saying, not

1549
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: family with people. We work together and it's a good

1550
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 3: look and we all do great work together. And as

1551
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 3: long as it's that I learned late in my career

1552
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: on some source magazine shit, I learned very late in

1553
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 3: my crew, way later than I should have. You can't

1554
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 3: get but so attached to something that does not belong

1555
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: to you, bad idea and Rory.

1556
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 4: You may remember, there was a time when I was

1557
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 4: just Mecca from the Source.

1558
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 9: That was my whole.

1559
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 5: I was in people's phones that was literally the synth,

1560
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 5: like that was the full name.

1561
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 4: Nobody knew my last name.

1562
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 3: Fuck that Mecca from the Source for everybody, regardless of

1563
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 3: where I wrote what I That's how hard I was

1564
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 3: with that brand. When I got offered other spots, I

1565
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: debted it because I felt like you were insulting me.

1566
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 3: How dare you question my loyalty to what I'm doing?

1567
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 3: Fuck out my face to think of my jump ship?

1568
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 3: Fuck I look like to you?

1569
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1570
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 4: I got angry, like to the point where you think

1571
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 4: that of me? You think I would actually do some

1572
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 4: shit like that?

1573
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 5: Bro?

1574
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: When the Source started making wild moves and I'm in

1575
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 3: the back going no, what the fuck?

1576
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 4: No, Oh my god, and he did it anyway.

1577
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: It's not mine, it's not mine, doesn't belong to me,

1578
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: it's not my say, it's not my call for me

1579
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 3: to sit here and scream at the top of my lungs,

1580
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 3: get all upset and get an altar over somebody else's decision.

1581
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

1582
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great, I mean, but I mean, at the

1583
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: same time, you know that, I think that it is

1584
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: some sort of communication that should be had so that

1585
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: you not blindsided when you don't have to know the

1586
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: exact details of everything. But if you're saying you found

1587
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: out about shit when I found about it out about shit.

1588
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 5: That's a problem to me. Finding me finding out ain't

1589
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 5: the issue.

1590
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 3: Him telling everybody is is pretty much the the cornerstone

1591
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 3: of the gripes, right, That's where all the smoke.

1592
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: You mean, him telling the public, right?

1593
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 4: Right?

1594
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 3: Could I stop him from doing that? He never asked me,

1595
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 3: He never told me he was going to do that.

1596
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 3: He didn't tell any of it. I can't speak for

1597
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 3: any of us. I know he never told me. I

1598
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: found out he was online like everybody else. I'm getting

1599
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 3: my phones blowing up, yo, You see your man I

1600
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 3: got a lot of it. Who were talking about Rory?

1601
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 4: Like I got a song?

1602
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

1603
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 3: No?

1604
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 5: Buster? Cool?

1605
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 4: What motherfucker?

1606
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: Who? Nah?

1607
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 4: Math? Okay, I'll go look. I went and looked. Oh shit,

1608
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 4: well right, M run that back. But what am I

1609
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 4: supposed to do about it? You know what I mean?

1610
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 4: Like I get upset, get mad, get excited, his shop,

1611
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 4: his show.

1612
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, but you've also dedicated a lot

1613
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 1: of you know, sweat equity to the brand.

1614
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 3: That's worth, that's worth whatever it's worth.

1615
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 4: And I did this.

1616
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 5: It's a worth to it.

1617
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 4: Though I did that because of me, you know, for sure, absolutely,

1618
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 4: But I'm.

1619
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: Just saying, like I just I just thought that there

1620
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 1: would be some type of communication between you and Math

1621
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: to where you would at least not be blindsided by

1622
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: some of the things you're hearing him say publicly. I

1623
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: thought that you would know, you would would at least

1624
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: know what was going on a little bit, maybe not

1625
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: exactly what's in the base.

1626
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 3: I knew I knew a little bit about what was

1627
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 3: going on. Like I said, I knew the landlord was

1628
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 3: acting a little shaky. I knew I was the first

1629
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 3: one to find out the lights was off. And I

1630
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 3: kind of figured, I don't know if he actually he

1631
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 3: told us that the landlord was out to a victism,

1632
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 3: but I didn't realize that. We get it wasn't in

1633
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 3: that order, like the lights off as the last thing.

1634
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: Oh shit, the lights are off. Called him, told him, Hey,

1635
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how we're going to do this episode.

1636
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 3: Lights is off. You might call somebody. I don't know

1637
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: what's been happening, Like I had no episode today. All right,

1638
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 3: going to the studio, got to do X, Y, Z, A,

1639
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 3: B and C. Let me know what's happening. Next time

1640
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 3: we need to come to a show, I'll pull up

1641
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 3: into my part. But outside of that, no one's obligated

1642
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: or entitled to anything that one's entitled to any inflication.

1643
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 4: Nobody's obligated it. It's not frowned upon when it happened.

1644
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, from a leadership standpoint, maybe it would be better

1645
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: and behoove the staff to know everything that's going on

1646
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: just for the show. But I see what Mech's saying,

1647
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: because like that's a drastically different situation than ours, where

1648
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: you're sitting behind expenses. We have a contract that is

1649
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: based off everything that is spent here, that we need

1650
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: to see this and that that's in a contract. It

1651
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 2: was started from interception together with Sweat Equity. It's it's

1652
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: drastically said it was but him being second third generation

1653
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: of that, Like yeah, if that was the case, Like

1654
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: when I've been hired to do stuff, I know this

1655
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: is what it is and ain't my fucking business, Like

1656
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: as long as you have my check every month, there's

1657
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: not really much I can say here, yeah, nor do

1658
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 2: I want to, because it's not my show. I'm paid

1659
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 2: to show up, to do this at the best of

1660
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: my ability and grow to show the best way I can.

1661
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 4: I got I would get yeah, but you yeah, but

1662
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,839
Speaker 4: how you but you? But macs?

1663
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 2: But I mean that back to your source comparison to

1664
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: like I remember when Seife left Hot ninety seven when

1665
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: he had that revelation, like, oh, I put my life

1666
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 2: into this logo and then realized I was expendable and

1667
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: they did not give a single fuck about me, even

1668
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: though I was the most senior person in there as

1669
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: far as years, and I was fighting for a logo

1670
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: that did not give a fuck up, Like why would

1671
01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: I even do that? I'm not sure just showed up.

1672
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: It's not in my morning show and went to fuck

1673
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: home and not even fought with You care about this logo?

1674
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 4: You get caught up, You get caught up. You you want?

1675
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 3: First of all, when I was at the Source bro

1676
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 3: that was the Bible, grew up on that magazine. Yep,

1677
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 3: that's like the perfect word. Who wants to let that go?

1678
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 3: Who wants to see that ruin? Who wants to see

1679
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 3: that tarnish? When it's literally your dreams? I was writing

1680
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 3: about hip hop as a hip hop head in the

1681
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 3: hip Hop Bible. Every day you had to you had

1682
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 3: to tell me to go home, you know what I mean?

1683
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 3: Like I was in no office all the fucking time.

1684
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 3: I had a toothbrush in that bitch like I was there.

1685
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 3: Type I wear glasses now because I stand in the

1686
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 3: screen for way longer than I should have, way longer.

1687
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 3: It was healthy nanny glasses like I did that because

1688
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 3: of my love for this place. But it doesn't belong

1689
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 3: to you. Every career I've ever worked with, every artist

1690
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 3: I've ever helped foster and get a shit back on

1691
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 3: track or put this album together, whatever, whatever, When it

1692
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 3: comes time for them to make the decisions that they

1693
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 3: want to make, you have to remember it's not yours. Right,

1694
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: you can see the red flags can look like a

1695
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 3: fucking parade in China. You can see it a mile away.

1696
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 3: You can scream at the top of your fucking lungs, bro,

1697
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 3: what they want to do. They are going to do.

1698
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,959
Speaker 3: And that goes for anything that you are not directly

1699
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 3: in control of. And you are disrespecting them by assuming

1700
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 3: that you have more say, or you have any say

1701
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 3: over their shit.

1702
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also from and I'm not making this a

1703
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: mass specific thing because I know nothing about his leadership

1704
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 2: outside looking in with that though, like if you have

1705
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: people that are leaving, you are also responsible for the

1706
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: chemistry of that show as a co host, sure, so

1707
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 2: you do have to deal with the decisions that the

1708
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 2: leader does make, Like when ess On Heidegen left. I'm

1709
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: sure the interviews in the beginning were a little different

1710
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 2: because part of that show was gone. A churistry was gone,

1711
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 2: like how you guys played off each other. Who's asking

1712
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: specific questions, like you have a very specific set of questions,

1713
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 2: math has a very specific like there' that's why the

1714
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 2: show was so great, So many different perspectives. As a leader,

1715
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: I do feel like you should keep your team at

1716
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: least involved in some of what's going on with that info,

1717
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 2: because they also are going to have to move this

1718
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: show with the decisions that you make and just showing

1719
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 2: up and me like, oh, they're not here, and now

1720
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: I got to figure this out. Wish I would have known.

1721
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 3: I'm past that point in my career. Not trying to

1722
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 3: sound like mister cool, but if I'm being honest, I've

1723
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 3: been in places with high turnover.

1724
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I know what that's like.

1725
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 4: It's not pleasant.

1726
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 3: I thought that team put numbers on the board in

1727
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: a real away me s so Heineken Math Bigger Space Ghosts.

1728
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 3: That was the unit that Eminem shouted out first rapper

1729
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 3: to ever like big us up just out of nowhere. Hey,

1730
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 3: those guys know what the fucking that was amazing, right,

1731
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 3: shout out to him for that. That was I never

1732
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 3: forgot that that was the unit that put numbers on

1733
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 3: the board. Now in the units changed, is beefing about

1734
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 3: it gonna make it, gonna change that I tried to have.

1735
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 3: I tried, I tried to and there this story is out.

1736
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 3: I tried to set up the dinner for all of

1737
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 3: us to sit down and air out our agreementss Big

1738
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 3: I had the spot in little Italy. We were all

1739
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: supposed to meet up, so Heineken, Space, Ghost, me, Bigger Math,

1740
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 3: We're all supposed to sit down and have the conversation.

1741
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 3: It did not happen. Why Math said he wasn't going.

1742
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: And again this is public information.

1743
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 4: He said it. He said he wasn't going.

1744
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 5: His decision to make is his. But I get it.

1745
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 5: But leadership as well. Again outside looking at my pops.

1746
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 3: My pops, UH told me one time, when when the

1747
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 3: results don't change, the why is irrelevant.

1748
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fair.

1749
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 4: Fair. I stopped asking.

1750
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 5: I don't even want to know at this point, Like,

1751
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 5: fuck it, let's move on.

1752
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 4: If I found out, would it changed something?

1753
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 9: Right?

1754
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: Why won't you cut? It's going to make him pop up.

1755
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to talk him into it. He's grown, man.

1756
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I still suffer from that.

1757
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: I've gotten better in my thirties, but I'm definitely one

1758
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 2: of those people that harps on the why and it

1759
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: never really changes once I know the why.

1760
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: M hm.

1761
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, like I need to know why.

1762
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 3: If I shot you in the foot, knowing, why wouldn't

1763
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 3: unshoot you even if I didn't mean.

1764
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 5: To in the foot Do you sleep with my best

1765
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 5: friend after Kylie's a pool party? Well? Yeah, right there

1766
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 5: on the wonder the artists as.

1767
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: One of the artists that we didn't mention for the

1768
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: Massive Pills seven album, I'm trying to get I'm trying to.

1769
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to get public record. Yeah no,

1770
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,480
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to get Pea Team free Torris.

1771
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 5: You know, I get that.

1772
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 4: I get that.

1773
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: One of the artists that we never should have said,

1774
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 3: shot you. You never should ran right into that. It's

1775
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 3: all mine for all right?

1776
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 5: Who shot you?

1777
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 4: Did? Well?

1778
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 5: Ship? You can't And you're being quiet all the time.

1779
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 5: What the fuck on Tandra jokes, let's go. What are

1780
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 5: you're saying?

1781
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,759
Speaker 9: They suck? Sorry, I'm so that was interesting.

1782
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 5: I didn't want to didn't say they were good.

1783
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: Abandoned Ship one of the artists that we didn't mention

1784
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: for the Massive Pill seven Now I'm special.

1785
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 3: I think, I think, I think he's done. When we

1786
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 3: interviewed him, he seemed very content with not fucking with music.

1787
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. I could be wrong, and I'd

1788
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:55,520
Speaker 3: love to be wrong. Special Ed was nice, but his impression,

1789
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 3: the impression he gave to us is he's quite.

1790
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would want to hear special Ed today, though.

1791
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 3: I would want to hear a lot of this. I

1792
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 3: want to hear good em C's bro. I don't care

1793
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 3: whatever they come from. You can't convince me that new

1794
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 3: shit is good just because it's new. That don't make

1795
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 3: no fucking sense. Again another line from my pops, garbage

1796
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 3: still stinks no matter how fresh it is. I've been

1797
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 3: applying that to music since I got here. This shit

1798
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I want to hear I want. I think

1799
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: the detachment that we have, the ageism that we have

1800
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: in this business has detached the youth from a generation

1801
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 3: that can actually help them navigate this business in a

1802
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:39,480
Speaker 3: better way, yeah for sure, and then influence them creatively

1803
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 3: in a better way. Hey, young, and you ain't got

1804
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 3: to start from zero. Here's a dude who's like a

1805
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 3: top tier guy who you can learn from. Imagine what

1806
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 3: you'll be able to do.

1807
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, even some older legacy acts aren't really

1808
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: in touch of what's going on, Like with the last

1809
01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: Tribe album that proved that hip hop is not just

1810
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: you know, country for young men, Like they put out

1811
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: an incredible album in a time when they wouldn't be

1812
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: quote unquote relevant. But that's because Q tip is very

1813
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: much in touch and relevant to everything that's going on.

1814
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 5: At the moment.

1815
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 2: Will you special as an example, Sorry, special Ed. I

1816
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: don't know if Special Leed is like that right now.

1817
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd want to hear that from him,

1818
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 2: because I don't know how in touch he's been with

1819
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: what's going on. Not to say he would have to

1820
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: sound like now nor did the last Tribe album. But

1821
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 2: you can't just go back to the same shit like I.

1822
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 5: Would have been.

1823
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 2: As much as I love Bene Applebaum, I don't need

1824
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: a new Tribe album in twenty fifteen when that came

1825
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 2: out of you trying to do yesteryear shit or the hey, this.

1826
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 5: Is what we know? You want to what Troblem sounds like?

1827
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 6: No?

1828
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 4: Now, right?

1829
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: They prove that beyond measure that album is incredible. But

1830
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 2: let's not act like that is across the board with

1831
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: all of our legends when they put out projects later.

1832
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 3: No, but everybody has a new artists have a bad album,

1833
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, right? No, No one's immune

1834
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 3: to a bad album. In the he causes for a

1835
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 3: lackluster album are varied. It just so happens that, as

1836
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 3: a grown ass artist you have Okay, well, this is

1837
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 3: one more thing that you may have to be aware of,

1838
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 3: is that your favorite sound may not be the sound

1839
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 3: right now.

1840
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 2: Where does Buster rhymes rank on the most aggressive dappers

1841
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: of all time?

1842
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen bust one night.

1843
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 5: God, he's in my shoulder. He separated my shoulder and

1844
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 5: then put it back in place in the same dap

1845
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 5: bro I've.

1846
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 3: Lost chewing gum with that dude, good new piece. Just

1847
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 3: what my nigga break bread with the god.

1848
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 5: Ednybody's choking heimlick whatever.

1849
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: Just give Bus a hook, bruh, it's gonna give You're

1850
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna give you seven DAPs in twelve second.

1851
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 3: The wind from that ship, the wrist that he has,

1852
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: that big ass Lincoln that one. Yeah, problematic.

1853
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Bus is one of those when you give

1854
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 1: him that, he holds your hand and talk to.

1855
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 4: You with the grip, with the grip because he wants

1856
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 4: you to.

1857
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 5: I want you to know downstairs.

1858
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 3: That some more.

1859
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 5: I can't stand it. I can't take it. We gottadapt

1860
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 5: not done dapping.

1861
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 2: I love Buss so much, but oh my god, everyson, Honestly,

1862
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 2: I get like kind of nervous when he because I know, you.

1863
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: Gotta brace yourself for bus DAP Like bus DAPs is like, yeah,

1864
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: you gotta embrace yourself. You gotta you gotta know that

1865
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be as strong it's gonna be.

1866
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 5: But it's sincere.

1867
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 4: You know what I've learned.

1868
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 3: He he really is a workaholic, right you you know this, yeah,

1869
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 3: if you yeah, absolutely, He has hundreds thousands of songs

1870
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 3: that have never seen the light of day. Right, that's

1871
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 3: how much he's just after it. What he wants is

1872
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 3: to be at this stage. Got the accolades, got the money,

1873
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 3: got the fan fare, got there. He just wants to

1874
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 3: rap with the best, right. The collab with Royster five nine.

1875
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 3: The collab with Kendrick Lamar, two things I was directly

1876
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 3: responsible for, and they only happened because I was enjoying

1877
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 3: this music and he wanted to know who that guy

1878
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 3: was that I was listening to. Get him on the phone.

1879
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 3: Let I want to rap with him.

1880
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 4: That's it.

1881
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 5: That's it.

1882
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:24,799
Speaker 4: Not a cloud Chase, not anything.

1883
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 3: Kendrick Lamar Rigamortis Remix was because Meck was listening to

1884
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 3: Section eighty having a field day. Because the shit was crazy.

1885
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 3: I want to rap with that kid, the kid that

1886
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 3: you're excited about, bring him here.

1887
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 5: And I love that that record eventually came out, but

1888
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 5: you could hear that that was section eighty Kendrick in one.

1889
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 5: Did that come out twenty twenty?

1890
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 4: No, no, no, before that, way before that. It's twenty.

1891
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 5: I thought it was during the pandemic day No no,

1892
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 5: no no no.

1893
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 4: Did the Riga Mortis remix?

1894
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 5: No, I'm saying the bus in Kendrick record that was

1895
01:23:58,600 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 5: from that time?

1896
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 3: Oh oh yes, that was early two. Yeh yeah, twenty twenty.

1897
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 3: That records far That was the first. That was my

1898
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 3: first time in and R and form. My point is

1899
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 3: he spends so much time in the studio. This is

1900
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 3: something I learned. He's in the studio all the time.

1901
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 3: He's not socializing like that like industry things. So when

1902
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 3: he sees somebody that he remembers and he likes, like

1903
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 3: you said, it's really sincere and he.

1904
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 5: Really misses you. Yeah, oh shit, it's like a family reunion.

1905
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: Yea. Every time, like walking into church and seeing that

1906
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 3: cousin you ain't seen in favor. He all of his interactions,

1907
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 3: from what I've seen, they're so, like you said, sincere,

1908
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 3: it's so genuine he's written. And then what you miss

1909
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 3: is after you leave, we'll be in the studio, he'll

1910
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 3: be talking about that person for like, he'll tell you

1911
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 3: the story of why that person is so cool, what

1912
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 3: that person did, what they worked, what him and that

1913
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 3: person worked doing together, a female, be a dude, whatever

1914
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: it is. He'll tell you the story and then just

1915
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 3: sit back and go, man, that was dope. When I

1916
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 3: see they call him back, see if you want to come,

1917
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 3: you tell them to tell him pull up whatever you

1918
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 3: want to pull up.

1919
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 5: But that's how he is. He's genuinely like, yeah, oh shit, hey,

1920
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 5: that's him.

1921
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: I went to Quad with Crisis and HV years ago.

1922
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: I think you might have been there too with bus.

1923
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 2: How should I feel that one of the DAP hugs

1924
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: my feet left the ground, I know, shouts people that.

1925
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: That's my first time saying it out loud.

1926
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 5: You should feel like I wasn't around, see they wondering

1927
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 5: if anyone saw them my feet left.

1928
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: You should feel like all white people should feel, we've

1929
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: been carrying you off.

1930
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 5: That was overcharging for carrying off whatever.

1931
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 1: Roy you know that you know the footprints to you know,

1932
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: do you know the famous picture footprints I carried you

1933
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: set footprints and yeah.

1934
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 5: Lad, this was what the pictures Only in America. I've

1935
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 5: seen it in.

1936
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 3: The care of bronze wool and feet of burnt breasts,

1937
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen golf clap for that.

1938
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 5: That that that that uh mall would be carried before

1939
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 5: we get to My dream super Bowl would be Missy

1940
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 5: and Bust together would and like putting them at opposite

1941
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 5: sides of the fields and the wad I saw it

1942
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 5: back in talking about all the time the craziest super Bowl.

1943
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: I caught a Missy show in Chicago with Bus was on,

1944
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: and I was telling them I was like, yo, dog,

1945
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 1: like you know, seeing Buster and and then having Missy

1946
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,799
Speaker 1: come on after that was just like, this is crazy

1947
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: that these two are still performing at this level. Buster,

1948
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean when Bud Wise's Superfest was a show I've

1949
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: seen in my age in the nineties, I've seen Bust

1950
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: to do that. To then see him almost thirty years

1951
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: later in Chicago and it's still the same same level,

1952
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Bro, this is absolutely crazy that he's

1953
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: still able to perform like this and has these records.

1954
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: And then when Missy comes out. She's on that same

1955
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: time I saw her, but one of them probably, and

1956
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: she's still able visually, both of them are able to

1957
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: give you a show, like a real show, and they're

1958
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: really rapping, like really rapping, you.

1959
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 5: Understand, I'm saying.

1960
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: So to see that, you know, all these years later,

1961
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: it's just a testament to what true artistry looks like

1962
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: and sounds like. And then two of the most iconic

1963
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: figures that we have in our.

1964
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 3: Coach I think about that time. I think about that

1965
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: every time we're in the studio working and I have

1966
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 3: my A and R hat on. There's a standard, yeah,

1967
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 3: that you cannot let slip, like Chris Lighty was his

1968
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 3: A and R dog right right. You imagine, like no pressure,

1969
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 3: like this legendary fucking god tear an R responsible for.

1970
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,959
Speaker 5: Eighty percent of the music of my fucking childhood.

1971
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 3: When I first came off the porch, these incredible, classic

1972
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 3: iconic records from these incredible, classic iconic artists, and that's

1973
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 3: the guy who is in this dude's air. And now

1974
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: I got to sit and at it, bro, you know,

1975
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 3: but I feel like I'm kicking my feet at like

1976
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 3: the kids sitting at the grown Ups table. I'm a

1977
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 3: grown man, but it's it's Yeah, I'm intimidated strictly by

1978
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 3: the by the knowledge that he has made such a

1979
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:33,440
Speaker 3: mark over thirty a thirty five year career. The standard

1980
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 3: is set in stone.

1981
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, not just Chris Lady, native tongues in general.

1982
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 3: The whole Violator Now I just started native tongues. Go

1983
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 3: to Violator mob deep ll Missy Busted like, stop there, stop, what.

1984
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 5: Are we doing this? Then continue to Ganet.

1985
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 4: I didn't want to.

1986
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 3: I didn't want to because it just gets stronger and

1987
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 3: stronger as you go on. And like you said, Bust

1988
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,799
Speaker 3: is not He's not taking days off, he's not slacking.

1989
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 3: He wants to rap with whoever feels like they can

1990
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 3: rap his stage show. He takes no shorts on that.

1991
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 3: Entertaining the people is a thing.

1992
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably his priority, actually is entertaining him and Spliff. Yeah,

1993
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: that's that's that's number one.

1994
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 3: And again Dragon Season a new album about about to drop.

1995
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 3: He's like performing tracks from that ship and he's got

1996
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 3: to mix that in with the classics. When your whole

1997
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 3: when your catalog is packed with so many classics, that

1998
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 3: that can be the show. The chore is mixing in

1999
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 3: the New Ship, which is ridiculous at the feature versus

2000
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 3: that's yeah together told you the features we got for

2001
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 3: like Toby, Niggaweeway Killer Mike. I can't even talk about

2002
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 3: the ones on the project coming up, but just like

2003
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 3: the joints that have already been put Simba like it's insane, Yeah,

2004
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 3: and all these The idea of the album was for

2005
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 3: him to rap with people I felt we felt were

2006
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 3: from his vintage, like he maybe not be solely responsible

2007
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 3: for their careers, of course not, but open the door

2008
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 3: for this to be acceptable.

2009
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 4: Toby definitely, you.

2010
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 3: Know multiple kids, the colorful video like that's definitely vintage

2011
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: Bus for sure. The song they have together just came

2012
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 3: out crazy talking about fatherhood.

2013
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: Yes, Toby is incredible. It's one of my favorite artists

2014
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: for sure.

2015
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 6: Me.

2016
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 4: We had a great convo.

2017
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been all the fatherhood shit. What's the

2018
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: rhapsody in Bus song? The best that I can raps

2019
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 2: the first woman to ever take accountability.

2020
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 5: First woman ever on record.

2021
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not a great mother, Maybe I've been an

2022
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 2: asshole to my baby father, and maybe I'm affecting my

2023
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: child's life because of it. Just maybe he's not this

2024
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: monster that I'm trying to make him out to be.

2025
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 2: I love it best that I can. If you have

2026
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 2: not heard that record, please please, especially if you're a father,

2027
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 2: go listening to that shit. But Josh, we got voicemails

2028
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: mail back. This is a segment people call in stories

2029
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 2: advice or that they're usually fun.

2030
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 9: Hey, y'all, what's up?

2031
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 6: Love?

2032
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 9: Everybody shout out to everybody.

2033
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 7: My question is is the scam still a scam if

2034
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 7: you are willing to participant and you know you're being scammed.

2035
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 9: I got a homegirl that do hair. Long story short,

2036
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 9: normally was she charged?

2037
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 7: I'm like, apparently she giving me like a deal or whatever,

2038
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 7: and I'll do content for her. Sometimes we'll do an

2039
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 7: exchange whatever. This time around, I guess hairstyles be trying

2040
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 7: to pay the whole fucking rent with one with one

2041
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 7: client people, and I know that you're up charging me.

2042
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 7: You're coming up with like all types of random ship

2043
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 7: just to because you don't you feel like I need

2044
01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 7: to pay more. But I didn't get my hair to

2045
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 7: and this BITCHU been doing my hair for a minute.

2046
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 7: But for me, it's the principal of the fact bitch,

2047
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 7: just just say don't don't make up, don't make up

2048
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 7: the imagineery.

2049
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 9: Big Tophie, And now now I gotta pay this.

2050
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 7: And I've been coming for you to you for the longest,

2051
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 7: so I feel like am I I know, I know

2052
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 7: you're playing with me, but I need to get my

2053
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 7: hair done. And is the principal the fact? Do I

2054
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 7: need to stop going to this bitch because she's playing

2055
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 7: in my face rather than just saying, hey girl, I

2056
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 7: need a little extra this month. I don't know.

2057
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say she got to find somebody else.

2058
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 9: She got to She's gonna go through the same thing

2059
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 9: with other people. It's nasty out here.

2060
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when if you've been going to somebody for

2061
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: so long, like y'all have years and I'm talking like, shit,

2062
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:47,759
Speaker 1: my barber, I've been going to my bar for probably

2063
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: fifteen years. Like if my barber tomorrow told me like, yeah, nah,

2064
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be extra for like more alcohol

2065
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: on the app? What who are you talking to?

2066
01:32:58,439 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 6: Like?

2067
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you you know what

2068
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm paying you? Sometimes I give my bar one hundred

2069
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: dollars here and you know what I'm saying, Like for

2070
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 1: the month. Here, I might go to barbershop twice a month.

2071
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you know what I'm saying. So it's like for

2072
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 1: your your hairstyles that you have a relationship with because

2073
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 1: you have a real relationship.

2074
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 8: If you've been going to a hairstyles fifteen years, they

2075
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 8: might have been going to each other for two to three.

2076
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 8: It ain't been fifteen, okay, So if it's two years,

2077
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,839
Speaker 8: that's still some time invested as money invested.

2078
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: You know, conversations. You know, you know your hairstyles after

2079
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: going for two years, you've had conversations.

2080
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 3: You know.

2081
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 5: It's a different level.

2082
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: I get the economy, you know, things like that, products

2083
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 1: may start costing more, things like that. But there is

2084
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 1: a conversation that your stylars should have with you before

2085
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 1: you sit in the chair and then they start throwing

2086
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: these surprise fees at you.

2087
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 8: But this is the thing when you don't know how

2088
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 8: to do your own hair. This is why these hairstylists

2089
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 8: are able to get out with this. And that's why

2090
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 8: y'all see me sitting up here with this bun. I'm

2091
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 8: my motherfucking had. These hairstylists know that it's supplying to men.

2092
01:33:58,520 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 8: There aren't a lot of girls who know how to

2093
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 8: do hair, well, they're not available and they're not cheap,

2094
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 8: so they know that they can charge girls damn near

2095
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 8: whatever because girls are like, I need to get my

2096
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 8: hair done, like I don't have a choice. So that's

2097
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 8: that's where it is. If you need to get your

2098
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 8: hair done that bad that you're not willing to stand

2099
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 8: on your morals, then whatever she's charging you is her price,

2100
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 8: and she's worth that price because you're making her worth

2101
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 8: that price. You won't even stand on it. You notice

2102
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 8: a bitch playing with you, you won't even stand on it.

2103
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 8: You calling in us, asking us if you should still

2104
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 8: let her play with you. If you are willing to

2105
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 8: do that, then she's worth that. She knows that she

2106
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 8: can do that.

2107
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 5: She knows she can play your face, tear if my hair.

2108
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 9: It's like that. Oh y'all don't know. It's dark out here.

2109
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 5: No, I've said this on this podcast.

2110
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 2: My barber I sat down after the cut and it

2111
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 2: was ten dollars more because he said he saw the

2112
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 2: acidic Jews moving in on Facebook.

2113
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 5: I've told that story on her.

2114
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what raised He raised the price and told

2115
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 2: me in the chair because he was like y'alls on Facebook,

2116
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 2: I see the acidic Jews moving into the neighborhood, so

2117
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 2: I gotta raise the price.

2118
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when I would have doubted my last cut.

2119
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: Oh no, I say o, hug that nigga move to

2120
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 1: North Carolin another ten years like busting wrongs like yo.

2121
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, some people it's the price in the value is high.

2122
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 8: It's where do people say that the value lies? So

2123
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 8: it's tough it really today's but the same these people

2124
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 8: that are doing hair, like these girls that are are

2125
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 8: putting these wigs on and these weaves like I'm not.

2126
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,799
Speaker 1: That's the other thing though, baby ladies.

2127
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 5: It was her name D.

2128
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 1: She might be Baby D's number two. She got listen

2129
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: D square. Yeah, if you what y'all getting, Like what

2130
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 1: y'all what what type of hairstyle? Because y'all be sitting

2131
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 1: in that ship ball headed and then get up with

2132
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: too much ship. We're just being real, what's wrong. I'm

2133
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: just saying, what are they getting? What are you getting

2134
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: done to your heir? If they're doing the bells and

2135
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,879
Speaker 1: the whistles and adding this and taking that and installing

2136
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 1: this and understalling that that's going I can understand if

2137
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 1: somebody being like, yo, it's gonna cost this hairstyle is

2138
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 1: taking three and a half hours.

2139
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 8: Like it's gonna cost for sure. But this is the

2140
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 8: thing though, Like I me personally, I understand charge with

2141
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 8: you feel like you're worth. If you're a high deman,

2142
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 8: you're a high deman. You're free to charge with you're worth,

2143
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 8: and I'm free not to pay that motherfucker. But I

2144
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 8: feel like hairdressers should not be making more than nurses,

2145
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,520
Speaker 8: and I just refuse to pay that regular.

2146
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 3: Watching people need hairdresses more often than they need nurses.

2147
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, now let's keep it real. Some of these hairdresses,

2148
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: it's performing surgery on some of.

2149
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 5: These women's heads. And there's that.

2150
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: Let's just if you're pulling out the same ship my

2151
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 1: nurse would use if I cut myself.

2152
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 5: Out of suit, you same stitching movement, Yeah happening.

2153
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: If you got more stitches in your sewing, then I've

2154
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 1: gotten this buck fifty that this blood nigga just hit

2155
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 1: me with.

2156
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, Yeah, you gotta pay.

2157
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 2: I don't even say the nurse is qualified for like

2158
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 2: the sewing work that a hairstylist does, all right, that

2159
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 2: nurse can't do.

2160
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 8: That at the hospital. They got away for the doctor.

2161
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 8: Now I want them to whoop you. I hope they

2162
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 8: whoop your ass. I'm not gonna lie who me. No,

2163
01:36:55,680 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 8: the nurses, some nurses, nurses. Nurses could absolutely installted it is.

2164
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 4: That's the fact.

2165
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 3: The question was, is it's a scam. If I know

2166
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 3: it's a scam, if I participate in the scam, it's

2167
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 3: not sam scam.

2168
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 4: Scam.

2169
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 3: It's an up charge and you're you're in on the heights.

2170
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 3: You just don't like your cut. Yeah, yeah, y'all must

2171
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 3: not be that cool. If you can't have the conversation girl,

2172
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 3: what you're doing? How you charging me for blah blah

2173
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 3: blah blah my barber who I've been going to for

2174
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 3: a bunch of years. If you have an up charged me,

2175
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 3: I could say something, Hey, nigga, this yeah exactly. In

2176
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 3: the words of my man Maul, I got the same haircut.

2177
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 3: Why is it cause I'm the grandfathered in same my

2178
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 3: contract when my Bob is grandfather. I don't care what

2179
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 3: these niggas start charging for rent.

2180
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 5: You know what I'm paying. I'm at and T from

2181
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 5: Singular Wireless. Yeah, you know it ain't changed.

2182
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm just the same. You're gonna hit

2183
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: me with the same, the same. We don't even know

2184
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 1: what I'm out of here. You don't even talk. We

2185
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: don't even talk. You know what I'm getting as soon

2186
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 1: as I sit down. He don't even just know what

2187
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 1: it is.

2188
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 2: But you'll can't y'all can't do that because when the

2189
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 2: price of goods go up, the price goes up. If

2190
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 2: I go to grocery store for thirty years, the price

2191
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 2: difference is going to change. Yeah, they're spending more on

2192
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:02,839
Speaker 2: the apples that day. Yeah, the consumer always loses.

2193
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 3: And the alcohol is going to cost some more. Like everything,

2194
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 3: these tariffs are really affecting. I got a homeboy who's

2195
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 3: running a I can't even blow his business up. He's

2196
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 3: running like a beverage company. One of the main ingredients

2197
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 3: is grown in Vietnam. The tariff on getting that ingredient

2198
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 3: alone is eating up his money to the point where

2199
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 3: he's not The profits are going directly into just getting

2200
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 3: the ingredient.

2201
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 5: That's why you're going up.

2202
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 2: We're the only ones that are going to suffer because

2203
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 2: business owners that get shipped overseas are not going to

2204
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 2: keep the same price.

2205
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 5: They're not going to lose the money. They're going to

2206
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 5: charge more for everything.

2207
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 2: But I mean, Shama old barber used to cut the

2208
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 2: alcohol with water when it got crazy, which was fine,

2209
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 2: but I just didn't like that he talked like he

2210
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 2: was Choppo when he was doing it. I can I

2211
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 2: can tell the difference, Like I'm not I'm not crying.

2212
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 2: This is very water down, but I get it. I mean,

2213
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 2: prices was going up. He had to cut some of

2214
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 2: the alcohol.

2215
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 4: Sweetheart, is not a scam. You you're involved.

2216
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's in on it. And because you have a

2217
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,759
Speaker 5: choice there, like I'm American taxes, that's a scam.

2218
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: But we have no choice because we're in America, so

2219
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: we're not in on the heist though.

2220
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 5: Even though we know what's where's where we are, where

2221
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 5: the mark? Yes, where the mark?

2222
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 4: We're getting? Got the mark?

2223
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 8: I would tell her either, I mean, keep looking, keep

2224
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 8: looking for a new stylist. And also, girl, learn how

2225
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 8: to do your own hair with the recession indicator.

2226
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 9: Learn how to do your.

2227
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 8: Own hair that will because then you can always get

2228
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:28,600
Speaker 8: your hair done at the drop of a dime. And

2229
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 8: learned how to do a cute style on yourself.

2230
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 4: Shave it off, get rid of it.

2231
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 8: Everybody got the head for a ball shaved off the

2232
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 8: head foot ball head, me being one of them. That's

2233
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 8: why I don't have a ball head and not remember no,

2234
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 8: my tall ass forehead. You bug the funk out. I'm

2235
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 8: very aware of you.

2236
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 4: I think you can do it.

2237
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 8: That's make it happy, peace, make it happen. You thought

2238
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,759
Speaker 8: you was gonna come near my head with some motherfuckery photoshop.

2239
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: You were telling Peege to get some clippers, you know,

2240
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: peas gonna make it happen, and to get a corner.

2241
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: Make it, make it.

2242
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 5: Happen, Peach, Please, if you give me a bang like

2243
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 5: on the ballad, you just keep this right here and

2244
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 5: let that hang down right there.

2245
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 4: I'm curls.

2246
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, just find somebody and get that.

2247
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 4: Girl abandoned ship.

2248
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, too soon, Josh with another one.

2249
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 4: What's up?

2250
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 6: Rory, mam DeMars? So I'm getting annoyed with my best friend.

2251
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 6: Uh we've known each other since third grade. We're twenty

2252
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 6: nine now. Damn man, I'm in a three year relationship.

2253
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 5: No, there you go.

2254
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 4: Everything's going good.

2255
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 5: They not in well, but your girl don't like him.

2256
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 6: My boy.

2257
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 4: He's been asking me.

2258
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 6: Can he hit some of my past flings, not my

2259
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 6: actual excess, but like women I used to deal with

2260
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 6: and sound like it's always been a thing, like we'll

2261
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 6: pass them back and forth. Never together did anything together,

2262
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 6: let me make that clear. But we'll pass them back

2263
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 6: and forth. But we're doing that in our younger twenties.

2264
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 6: We're getting older now, Like I know you can pull

2265
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 6: if you wanted to. Why do you keep messing with

2266
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 6: the women I used to mess with? And I want

2267
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 6: to confront him about it, but I don't want to

2268
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,719
Speaker 6: come off way too harsh.

2269
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 3: But like it's to the point where like it's getting weird,

2270
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I love him.

2271
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep loving him, but it's getting weird, and

2272
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 6: it could I think it needs to stop, all right.

2273
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 5: For the advice, well, I would say it is weird

2274
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 5: number one.

2275
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 1: Number two, it sounds like, you know, you just want

2276
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 1: to grow up, and you just want your best friend

2277
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 1: to grow up with you and stop doing the things

2278
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: that y'all were doing when y'all were in your teens

2279
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: in early twenties. And then this, you know, we just

2280
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 1: got to try to cover all bases here.

2281
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 5: He might just like you mall not everybody is as

2282
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 5: funny is I knew mal was going to go with that.

2283
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 5: In the middle of that, I mean, because you're feeling me,

2284
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 5: you're feeling me.

2285
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 9: They could just have the same taste.

2286
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,560
Speaker 5: It ain't the same taste. Sometimes your nigga want to

2287
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 5: taste you.

2288
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh my God, just keep its keeping real Fridays you

2289
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: want me to do it.

2290
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 5: It's Thursday, Thank God, it's Thursday. I'm out. I feel God.

2291
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 5: It's just you know what you want me to do.

2292
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 1: It is what it is like that.

2293
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that.

2294
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 8: I love to hear from our guests. What does our

2295
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 8: guest think outside of them all thinking everybody is flaming.

2296
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 5: I don't think everybody's flaming.

2297
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that guy I gave, I gave three

2298
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:00,520
Speaker 1: difference scenarios.

2299
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that could be one of them. I

2300
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 3: don't notice. Gentlemen, I think you shouldn't care. You've been

2301
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 3: with your shorty for three years. I don't think you

2302
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 3: should care what your man is doing, who he's trying

2303
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 3: to hit. I don't think you should give a shit

2304
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 3: unless you plan on running and back with any of them. Women.

2305
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no.

2306
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 1: But it is a thing that my best friend is

2307
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: every month he sent me like, Yo, you know who

2308
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: I was with last night, Kim?

2309
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 5: Remember you used to fuck with? I'm like, yo, doll, Like,

2310
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 5: why are you still running behind all my shit?

2311
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 3: He shouldn't even be asking him, Like, okay, I'm out speaking.

2312
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 3: But it's a best friend, ya, So I don't care

2313
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 3: what you're like. If it's funny, he might think it's funny,

2314
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 3: and he's saying it's time to grow up. Like, but

2315
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 3: I can't dictate when another man decides to grow up,

2316
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 3: especially if I've been with my shorty for three years.

2317
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 4: I don't really care what you do. Don't bring it.

2318
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 2: But but that's that's not because I halfway agree with

2319
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 2: you now. Of course I wouldn't care about what my

2320
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 2: old work is doing. I'm in a happy relationship, not

2321
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:53,719
Speaker 2: even thinking about that. But I can recognize a pattern

2322
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 2: and find it odd. Why is my man's only trying

2323
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 2: to fuck with girls I used to fuck with. I

2324
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 2: don't care about those girls. But why do you get, man,

2325
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 2: what you want to do?

2326
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 3: That because you've you've because I've put some numbers on

2327
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 3: the board and I've had some all stars, and he

2328
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 3: wants those same all He wants the All Stars that I.

2329
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, but go get some new stars.

2330
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 4: Yours is accessible, right, let's he said.

2331
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 8: Cassie said, they heard I was good. They want to

2332
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 8: see if it's true. I stop running your motherfucking mouth.

2333
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 9: So you can't go and say no, they got the

2334
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 9: best sandwich.

2335
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 1: That's the name we should be throwing in this type

2336
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: of conversation right now.

2337
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 8: No, well, lyric, but the point of it is you

2338
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 8: can't go and like brag about the sandwiches over down

2339
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 8: the street and then be mad.

2340
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 9: We homeboy won't go taste the sandwiches that you keep bragging.

2341
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 2: And my young years when my friends have came here. Yeah,

2342
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 2: but if I was crazy, I never went my head like, damn,

2343
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 2: I gotta have it to like if I get your

2344
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 2: own sandwich, if I want your head.

2345
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Like if I got a sandwich and I buy it

2346
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 1: to a sandwich, you like, let me get a piece.

2347
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 1: Every time I gotwich, get with yours left the store

2348
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 1: with me.

2349
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 5: We was just in the same boat, dagga calling make

2350
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 5: your own people and I ordered this turkey and cheese.

2351
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 5: You were standing right next to me. Okay, but now

2352
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 5: let me get it strong.

2353
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 3: Now you got it.

2354
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 5: Now you got to give chef in the house and

2355
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 5: he want to go back to the fair with you.

2356
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 1: You got your own ship, Go to the sandwich spot

2357
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 1: and get a new sandwich. Stop going through the trash.

2358
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 5: Out the sandwich. I mean, if you got a chef.

2359
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 1: Listen, If I go outside my crib and see somebody

2360
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: digging in through my garbage every day, I'm like, what's

2361
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 1: up with you?

2362
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:26,839
Speaker 4: Got the chicks is garbage?

2363
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 5: I'd say I've been there, I had that already. Why

2364
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 5: do you want to I'm not I'm not saying I

2365
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 5: would do it the way I think about what.

2366
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not I'm not saying.

2367
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I.

2368
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 2: Rehearse the genders, then yes, reverse the genders. If a

2369
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 2: girl was acting now, that's why does she want to all.

2370
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 5: The dudes that you had?

2371
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: Because I don't like what the marriage do that she

2372
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 1: would say that if a girl was doing that.

2373
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 5: The man we're trying to get talking about niggas the.

2374
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 9: Same what he said.

2375
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 8: He did not say it was any of his exes

2376
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 8: or women that he was in love with, or actually

2377
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:00,679
Speaker 8: he said it was women that he just have flings.

2378
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 9: I told my homegirls, yo, you know the ones that

2379
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 9: I was in.

2380
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 2: Love with, Okay, go have fun. We've joked about that

2381
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 2: with not exes, but chicks. I've dealt with you being

2382
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 2: as gay as you are, as like, damn, I need

2383
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 2: that you cool with.

2384
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 5: That, like in a joking way. That's no, no, no, no, no,

2385
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 5: no no no. It's only with like two specific ones

2386
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 5: that she brings up exactly. If she did that with

2387
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 5: everyone I fucked with, I'd be like, demeris, what the

2388
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 5: fuck is wrong with you?

2389
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 3: Now?

2390
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 5: You have a weird thing with who I'm fucking rather

2391
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 5: than finding two women I happen to attractive. Yeah, I

2392
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 5: don't think Demere is weird when she says that if

2393
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 5: she went through my whole body count and wanted to

2394
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 5: add it to hers, I'd be like, all right, you

2395
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 5: have something weird going Coming.

2396
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 8: From the friends perspective, Do I think the friend is

2397
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 8: a little freaked out?

2398
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 9: Sure, but you have really good taste.

2399
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 8: So even if you had never slept with those women,

2400
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 8: those would still be women that I was attracted to

2401
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 8: because we have the same type.

2402
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:56,639
Speaker 9: So you if his best friend has the same type

2403
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 9: as him, you can't be I'm not.

2404
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,080
Speaker 8: But if you was out here fucking everything walking in

2405
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 8: the city and now you wiped up and now I

2406
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 8: can't talk to nobody in the city because you don't

2407
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 8: fuck them all.

2408
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 9: That don't make it East.

2409
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 5: It's the specific part of him hitting him up about women.

2410
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 5: Heats like, Okay, we don't want to make it win.

2411
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 3: You're trying to tell him. Listen, bro, this is about

2412
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:14,560
Speaker 3: to happen. I'm just trying to let you know what

2413
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 3: I'm what I'm about to do. She's right here, some

2414
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 3: man I tell him, and then he'd be really pissed. Right,

2415
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 3: But there's a thing not to mention. The women are down.

2416
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 3: It's not like he's it sounds it sounds like they

2417
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 3: have to do it.

2418
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 5: That's the part. The marriage ain't speaking to that. I'm

2419
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 5: trying to speak to the women is.

2420
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 9: Rolling and they know the niggas ain't close like that.

2421
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 9: He said, this is best the own the US.

2422
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 5: It's the third grade. They've been cool. Tone Now yeah,

2423
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 5: damn what.

2424
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 2: Let's use New York City for example. Women over twenty

2425
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 2: years old, New York City four point three million?

2426
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 5: Oh Rory, Okay, why you why are you focused on

2427
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 5: the five girls I fucked?

2428
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 1: You know how?

2429
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 5: What the fuck is wrong with you? You know if

2430
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 5: it's only fine this year, just to settle down. Everybody's

2431
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 5: done in a.

2432
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 8: Year walking to a spot, Rory running to a piece

2433
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 8: that he done hit New York is what did they do?

2434
01:47:57,800 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 4: All hug me?

2435
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:07,600
Speaker 5: Made it nasty? I'm saying, give me a hug. I

2436
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 5: miss you, Give me a hug.

2437
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 6: You.

2438
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 8: There's a little the best friend could do better. But

2439
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 8: my thing is like you, Like like Max said, he's you.

2440
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 8: You married like you damn near married, you in love?

2441
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 9: Don't why are you worried?

2442
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 2: You guys are missing mall and I's point, that's okay completely,

2443
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 2: let's agree to disapoint.

2444
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 3: If it was me, he wouldn't even have to tell me,

2445
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 3: Like I'm being being real with you, I wouldn't even.

2446
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 4: Need to know.

2447
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 5: I wouldn't either. I'd literally be a little annoyed. Super cap,

2448
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 5: I'm calling it fellas cap.

2449
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 1: We're not we're not gonna act like we wouldn't care,

2450
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna act.

2451
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 5: We're not doing that. I would not act.

2452
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't care. I'm not acting. I really wouldn't care.

2453
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 3: I don't care. Now, Okay, if it was your ex

2454
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 3: or just a fling sling, I don't give a ship.

2455
01:48:57,439 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 3: What you do if it was an actual care X

2456
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 3: is different, Okay, cool X is a different energy, but.

2457
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 5: I would still find I wouldn't care, but I would

2458
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 5: raise an eyebrow like that.

2459
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be enough for me to call into a

2460
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 3: show and ask for advice. It's a fleet.

2461
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 4: I didn't care. I didn't care enough to keep her.

2462
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 4: It's my whole point.

2463
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 5: I didn't care enough to keep Maybe she adn't care

2464
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 5: enough to.

2465
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 9: Keep you well.

2466
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 8: He acting like y'all always the ones leaving, like y'all

2467
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 8: don't be getting.

2468
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 5: Them sometimes sometimes nine times. I don't know if y'all

2469
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 5: have done this.

2470
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 4: Checked this study. Nine times out of ten, men don't

2471
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,719
Speaker 4: leave even when they cheat. They don't leave. Men don't

2472
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 4: break up. The men don't file for hate it.

2473
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 6: No, we just.

2474
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 3: Keeping keeping the keeping the family together is more important

2475
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 3: for most dudes.

2476
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 9: No, that's not why niggas be staying. But what stop?

2477
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen Anthony Edwards. He only want to see

2478
01:49:53,720 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: his baby. He said, I'm cool, take cash outside. That

2479
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: nigga said cash me outside. I saw that at that

2480
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: one fat he said that one point.

2481
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 5: Ain't quick. He had that in his book back. He's

2482
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 5: like how much is it take this?

2483
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 3: She I saw that story. She told him she was

2484
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 3: getting the abortion first. He gave her honey k for that,

2485
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 3: and she never got it, and she came back around

2486
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 3: with the baby. We are intering, We are entering interesting times.

2487
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 3: But I knew this was going to happen eventually. It

2488
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 3: was just a matter of time.

2489
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 5: This had been happening already.

2490
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 3: It's just no, I'm talking about father's legally opting out

2491
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 3: of fatherhood. I knew we were going to get to

2492
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 3: that point. The argument was too too strong on both sides.

2493
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 5: The argument is it was a nigga named Anthony.

2494
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 1: It was that had had access to one point eight

2495
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: million right now today versus my dad, he probably would

2496
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: have cashed out yet one point, like our father didn't

2497
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 1: have that money.

2498
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 5: Just sit down around liquid. They said, Megan get pregnant.

2499
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 5: Let me get pregnant.

2500
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 1: I need That's the difference is that men don't have

2501
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 1: it to be like all right, I'm gonna put me

2502
01:50:58,840 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: on child support.

2503
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,599
Speaker 3: Obviously got you know, help take care of his baby.

2504
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 3: But now see at one point, the next thing, the

2505
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:08,600
Speaker 3: next thing is to scale. But Anthony Edwards operates at

2506
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 3: a high scale. Yeah, they're gonna scale that down for

2507
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 3: guys who don't operate it.

2508
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2509
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, the numbers gotta do. They gotta tell ye, the

2510
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 3: numbers are gonna start coming. I'm only watching this because

2511
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 3: I got a homeboy who's a lawyer. He's really into

2512
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 3: like the whole child custody such and such.

2513
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 1: It does need to be addressed.

2514
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 3: The biggest argument is if a woman can walk away

2515
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 3: from being pregnant whenever she feels like it, men should

2516
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 3: have the right to walk away from that whenever they

2517
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 3: feel like it. There's always that argument happening in the middle.

2518
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:42,679
Speaker 3: I knew eventually somebody was gonna score that. Yeah, some judge,

2519
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 3: some lawyer, somebody was going to be like, oh word,

2520
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 3: nah fuck that go ahead. Somebody was gonna agree and

2521
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 3: set it off. Now I'm trying to figure out where

2522
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 3: we go from here.

2523
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 5: Yeah. Adding in legality to abandoning children is hilarious, Like

2524
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 5: where are we.

2525
01:51:58,200 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 2: It's always it's always been no I think they should

2526
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:01,600
Speaker 2: joke is hilarious. You have the right to abort it.

2527
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 2: I have the right to abandon it. Yeah, Like I

2528
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 2: get the logic in there, but family doesn't mean logic.

2529
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 2: Love doesn't mean logic like.

2530
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 3: Legally, yes, birth doesn't mean that. Birth doesn't mean fatherhood

2531
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 3: of course. Like so again we come right back around

2532
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 3: on the other side of the corner. I'm not I'm

2533
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 3: not pro I'm just I'm on the outside looking, but

2534
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 3: I'm really curious has to wear Like now that that's happened,

2535
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:26,839
Speaker 3: and that then the books and that's a precedent.

2536
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, slipery slope. Okay, let's see, let's see.

2537
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 3: What because now the next one is, well, you know,

2538
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm a mechanic, but I don't want this kid and

2539
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 3: she's having it.

2540
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 4: What what do I need to pay?

2541
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 6: Now?

2542
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 3: What's the standard? What's the number? How much do I

2543
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 3: need to come up with for her to leave me

2544
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 3: alone for the rest of what?

2545
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 1: They usually go about an income and things like that.

2546
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 3: Again that's how that's how they determined child support. But

2547
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 3: now I'm like opting out completely. What's that number going

2548
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 3: to be for like the whatver?

2549
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 5: Break it down?

2550
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 1: If you what's your what's your income?

2551
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 5: Okay, so two thousand dollars a month?

2552
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 1: That's what twenty fourth in a year.

2553
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 2: There's a child support calculator on yeah, on your phone,

2554
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 2: your phone, there's that for that.

2555
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh where again we're slippery, slippery, dangerous times.

2556
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 3: I don't know where it's going. But when I saw that,

2557
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 3: that was like, and I see the women who are pissed,

2558
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 3: but the woman he paid isn't.

2559
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 5: Of course she's not.

2560
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 3: So it's like that was a whole goal, right, So

2561
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 3: you can't even defend it. You can't even get mad

2562
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 3: on her behalf. You can try and shame him, but

2563
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 3: he never wanted the fact that it's legally allowed is

2564
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,719
Speaker 3: where I'm Yeah, it's where my interest is. I can't

2565
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,679
Speaker 3: wait to see how this shakes out for everybody.

2566
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 1: I think it obviously is going to change a lot

2567
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 1: of things, pecially when you talk about like athletes making

2568
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 1: that amount of money.

2569
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 5: Anthony was is probably gonna.

2570
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 1: Make close to a billion dollars playing basketball, So you know,

2571
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 1: when you talk about that and you know, having kids

2572
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 1: and you know he doesn't want to have a kid,

2573
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 1: and they agreed on the abortion, he's into a one

2574
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 1: hundred thousand at one point, you know, she she went

2575
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:07,720
Speaker 1: to turks instead. I mean, you can't be allowed to

2576
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 1: double back and then try to hit me for child

2577
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,839
Speaker 1: support on a kid that I thought we were aboarding

2578
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 1: a pregnant that.

2579
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2580
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like going like the man has to

2581
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 1: be protected to at some point, at some cost they

2582
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:21,679
Speaker 1: don't care. Well now, yeah, now.

2583
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

2584
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: Now, Now men have to because because you know, looked

2585
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 1: at us, well, Michael Jackson told us that. But if

2586
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 1: you look up it is it is a thing where

2587
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, athletes are targeted or men that make a

2588
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 1: lot of money of.

2589
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 3: A certain tier are targeted. Financially, Yeah, they should be protected,

2590
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 3: that's all.

2591
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 1: You know. Whatever that looks like I'm just saying that

2592
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 1: the men should be protected us.

2593
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 3: And it's looking like it's going to look like the

2594
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 3: ability to opt out is going to be one of

2595
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 3: those options financially opt out.

2596
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: And what does that severance package look like? What's the

2597
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 1: severance on us?

2598
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 4: A whole seven?

2599
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, severance package, like you'll just pay this.

2600
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 4: I got I got two bread and then by Chevelle about.

2601
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, just take it.

2602
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 5: Be a trend. Tell conn ed you opt out. I'm

2603
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 5: not paying it. Yeah, mortgage to opt out. I don't

2604
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 5: want to.

2605
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 4: I'm done. I'm not fucking with you, man.

2606
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 5: I really appreciate it. Appreciate you man, deeply.

2607
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 3: Appreciate what fella's having me like, this is one of

2608
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 3: the shows that I've been a fan of since you

2609
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 3: guys started it off. I'm in a fan of you

2610
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 3: guys before you started the show.

2611
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.

2612
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm happy to see that everyone's on their feet, successful

2613
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 3: in doing their numbers.

2614
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just really really happy to be here.

2615
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: Appreciate that, man, Thank you.

2616
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 3: Salute to bust the Dragon season coming out, mister Mac

2617
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 3: on YouTube. I gotta start pushing that now, which I've

2618
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 3: never done before.

2619
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 1: Never, But it's okay.

2620
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 3: I never cared. I always thought it was I always

2621
01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 3: thought my career was supposed to be behind it camera,

2622
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 3: writing the whole nune. I thought that's where it was

2623
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 3: going to be for the rest of them, same life.

2624
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 3: Now that things change, this is where the people are

2625
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 3: and this is kind of where mm so now I

2626
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 3: have to say miss the mech on YouTube after that,

2627
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 3: like share of subscribers become part of my vocabulary.

2628
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 2: The behind the scenes people are the better people for

2629
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 2: on camera. That's what I've noticed in the Less than You. Yeah,

2630
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 2: all people that were striving to just be on camera

2631
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 2: were in it for the wrong reasons, not because they

2632
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:30,360
Speaker 2: had something to say. They just wanted to be on camera.

2633
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,240
Speaker 2: When you're seeing people have something to say, they live

2634
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 2: and breathe this entire thing. That's why the shift has happened.

2635
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 2: We never went in saying I want to be on camera.

2636
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 2: We wanted to come in and contribute to what we love.

2637
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 2: So we have way more of a perspective on it

2638
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 2: than anyone else. The rest of y'all just wanted to

2639
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 2: have the lights on and look this way and repeat

2640
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 2: whatever your program director told you to say.

2641
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 5: You have no perspective.

2642
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 1: My family still can't believe you like fan, you don't

2643
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: like the culture.

2644
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never.

2645
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 1: Ever wanted this, but you know, grateful for it, happy

2646
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 1: for glad with building something. But this was never about

2647
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: to be on camera.

2648
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 4: Mike. But you're so suited.

2649
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 1: No, No, I mean thank you for that. But you know,

2650
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm just my friends that really know me that they

2651
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: they laugh at what I do. They like dog, you

2652
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 1: don't talk to nobody.

2653
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 3: But I think that's how this happens, right Like there

2654
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 3: are those of us who are just who we are,

2655
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 3: and next thing you know, they're a group of people

2656
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 3: who resonate what we say. Resonates with them so crazy.

2657
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,840
Speaker 3: Your friends they may laugh at you, but at the

2658
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 3: same time you're saying the thing that they would say,

2659
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 3: which is why they fucked with you.

2660
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

2661
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 3: Ory's is exactly and I know worries. They look at

2662
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 3: him and go, what he said is what I would say,

2663
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 3: And then I get that. It's like, Yo, your perspective

2664
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 3: on the show, the things you say, if I was there,

2665
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 3: that's what I would have said.

2666
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 4: I fuck with you. Keep now It's like.

2667
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 3: Okay. But I never looked at it that way. I

2668
01:57:57,480 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 3: always considered it that when it was artists like, you

2669
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 3: don't want to be good, you just want to be famous.

2670
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 3: You just want to be No, you don't care about

2671
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 3: being dope, you just want to be famous.

2672
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 1: On that, podcasters want to be famous and they think

2673
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 1: that they're artists.

2674
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 5: That's another topic. That's that's a whole nother on just

2675
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 5: gender peace.

2676
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 9: No Willia