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Speaker 1: This is Angela Rai, one of your hosts of Native Lamppod,
Speaker 1: thrilled to be with you today. As our producer Nick
Speaker 1: goes on mute since I can hear his television, and
Speaker 1: we are so excited that you all have joined us today.
Speaker 2: We have so much to get into.
Speaker 1: This is going to be one of my favorite solo
Speaker 1: pods because we are going to hear live from some
Speaker 1: folks just like you. As you know, we say welcome home,
Speaker 1: and that means that our Native Lamppod community has the
Speaker 1: opportunity to weigh in some with questions today. Before we
Speaker 1: get started, I want you all to know within about
Speaker 1: the next hour, the House Republicans will be bringing up
Speaker 1: a vote. We have somebody Okay, I was going to
Speaker 1: say we have somebody else who just joined us, when
Speaker 1: you's them to go backstage.
Speaker 2: The House Republicans will be voting on.
Speaker 1: What they call a stopgap measure or a continuing resolution
Speaker 1: to determine whether or not the government will continue to operate.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna argue with you all right here, and just
Speaker 1: let you know that the government has been shut down
Speaker 1: since Donald J. Trump was sworn into office on Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King Day this year. The government has been shut
Speaker 1: down since Elon Musk went into the Department of Treasury
Speaker 1: with doze and got access to our most secure information.
Speaker 1: The government shut down the day that they decided that
Speaker 1: USAID workers all over the world should no longer receive
Speaker 1: funding and should be fired. The government was shut down
Speaker 1: the day they began to fire inspectors general throughout the government.
Speaker 1: The government was shut down the day ethics no longer mattered,
Speaker 1: the day that the felon got into the White House
Speaker 1: and decided that there would be crime running rampant, except
Speaker 1: for for those of us who commit no crimes. So, y'all,
Speaker 1: the government has been shut down, and what the Republicans
Speaker 1: are going to vote on within the next hour will
Speaker 1: merely give Donald J. Trump and Elon Musk a rubber
Speaker 1: stamp to continue and engaging in waste, fraud, and abuse.
Speaker 1: And it gives them a rubber stamp to continue to
Speaker 1: shut down services most needed for the American people. This
Speaker 1: bill will decrease non defense spending by thirteen billion dollars.
Speaker 1: This bill will cut SNAP benefits, which again we talked
Speaker 1: about before. Our food stamps provide food benefits to the
Speaker 1: most vulnerable Americans among us. Two hundred and thirty billion
Speaker 1: dollars in cuts to SNAP. The cuts to Medicate are
Speaker 1: over eight hundred billion dollars. That provides healthcare to people
Speaker 1: all over the country and is named different things. In
Speaker 1: your state, it's something different. In Washington State, it's Apple.
Speaker 1: There are tax cuts for people with incomes in the
Speaker 1: top one percent in the country one point one trillion dollars,
Speaker 1: so they can afford to give tax cuts to wealthy
Speaker 1: billionaires but starve out and cause harm to healthcare for
Speaker 1: the most vulnerable among us. That is what we are
Speaker 1: up against. UH. And I want to just call out
Speaker 1: the fact that there are House Republicans who are vulnerable.
Speaker 1: They live in districts, some of them with large black populations.
Speaker 1: I want to name some of those folks, and then
Speaker 1: we are going to get into the conversation, UH with
Speaker 1: with people in the community who have questions. But I
Speaker 1: just want to take a moment, UH, to name some
Speaker 1: of those folks. Hold on, I'm trying to find the
Speaker 1: post where we lifted up all the names of these workers.
Speaker 1: Hold on one moment, I just oh, here it is.
Speaker 1: So this is These are the Republicans who you need
Speaker 1: to be paying attention to because they may vote against
Speaker 1: your interests and you still have called time to call
Speaker 1: them at two zero two two two four.
Speaker 2: Three one two one.
Speaker 1: These are Republicans who were elected in districts that have
Speaker 1: large Democratic populations and large populations of people of color.
Speaker 1: That is Nick Beggach in Alaska. That is David Sweikert
Speaker 1: in Arizona. That is Eli Crane in Arizona. That's Juan
Speaker 1: Ciscomanni in Arizona. It's a lot of Arizona.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Kevin Kylie in California, David Valadeo in California, Young Kim.
Speaker 1: Are we sure it's not Kim Young? I just want
Speaker 1: to make sure we checked that Young Kim in California.
Speaker 1: Kevin Calvert in California, Jeff Heard of Colorado, Gabe Evans
Speaker 1: of Colorado, Anna Paulina Luna in Florida. Representative Marinette Marionette
Speaker 1: Miller Meeks. Marionette Miller Meeks in Iowa, Zach Nunn in Iowa,
Speaker 1: Bill Huayzenga Jesus help. I don't know if his last
Speaker 1: name is h u I z e n g A, Michigan.
Speaker 1: Tom Barrett in Michigan, John y'all. John James got the
Speaker 1: nerve to be a black man in Michigan, voting against
Speaker 1: snapped in medicaid in Michigan, John James, somebody run against
Speaker 1: his brother.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm sorry, you gyall should run against these white
Speaker 2: folks too.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, this is a black man voting
Speaker 1: against snap and medicaid, Okay, John James. Ron zinc in
Speaker 1: Montana might be zinkey. I'm not sure. We've got to
Speaker 1: get pronunciations of these I'm not gonna mess these up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep naming these folks. So let's make sure
Speaker 1: we get this done. Little lot, help me out. Don
Speaker 1: Bacon and Nebraska, Tom Keen Junior, New Jersey, Nick Lalatta.
Speaker 2: In New York. Mike Lawler, New York.
Speaker 1: Ryan McKenzie Pennsylvania, Rob bress Child, Rob Brestman in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: Scott Perry, Pennsylvania, Monica Dela Cruz in Texas. Bob Whitman, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Jump I'm sorry, Jen Keegan's Virginia. Brian Steell Wisconsin. Derreck
Speaker 1: van Orden, Wisconsin. Y'all called them today at two zero
Speaker 1: two two two four three one two one while you're
Speaker 1: watching me, pick up the phone, record a video of
Speaker 1: your call to their office and let them know they
Speaker 1: better not vote against this continuing Resolution that is merely
Speaker 1: a perpetuation of a government shutdown that has been happening
Speaker 1: since Donald Trump got in office. Call them and let
Speaker 1: them know that you don't want to be a rubber
Speaker 1: stant for Donald Trump. Call them and let them know
Speaker 1: that you want to fund snap benefits, and you want
Speaker 1: to fund Medicaid, and you want to fund Medicare, and
Speaker 1: you want to fund Social Security. Let them know they
Speaker 1: plan with the wrong ones. Okay, let them know two
Speaker 1: zero two two two four three one two one. You
Speaker 1: can find this post about the Republican members who are
Speaker 1: in vulnerable districts and who are likely to vote to
Speaker 1: support this continuing resolution. Tell them to vote no because
Speaker 1: our lives depend on it. Okay, So now we're going
Speaker 1: to get into these questions. I just wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure we do that because we have about an hour
Speaker 1: before they vote, maybe a little less before they vote
Speaker 1: on this continue Resolution on the House floor, and then
Speaker 1: y'all call these Senate Democrats that think they going that
Speaker 1: they have an obligation to support this No, they do
Speaker 1: not tell them what they have an obligation to support,
Speaker 1: and that is making sure that the American people can
Speaker 1: live and thrive under this administration.
Speaker 2: That means you got to vote to tell a fascist, No,
Speaker 2: what are we talking about. This is not up for grabs.
Speaker 2: It's not up for discussion.
Speaker 1: We have to make sure that our voices are heard
Speaker 1: and we tell these folks what we really need to
Speaker 1: see done. That's our obligation. Where the taxpayers you know
Speaker 1: what that means. We pay their salaries. You know what
Speaker 1: that means they work for us. All right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: open up for questions. I think Brittany is up first.
Speaker 1: I can't hear you, Brittany. I'm so sorry. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's on mute, but I can't hear you
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: Can you hear me now?
Speaker 1: I can, Hi, Brittany, how are you tell us your name?
Speaker 1: Your full name, and where you're from.
Speaker 4: My name is Brittany Scott and I'm from Durham, North Carolina.
Speaker 2: All right, tell me your question.
Speaker 4: Okay, So my question is as we most recent so
Speaker 4: there were ten Democrats that voted to censor Al Green.
Speaker 2: They are the opposition.
Speaker 4: I want to know in times like this, what do
Speaker 4: we do to appeal to the opposition? Can we appeal
Speaker 4: to them? And if we can't, does that mean that
Speaker 4: black people now need to do basically fubu for us
Speaker 4: by us?
Speaker 1: Yes, I love this question, Brittany. First of all, let's
Speaker 1: shout out Congressman Al Green. For those of us who
Speaker 1: were watching the State of the Union, what we know
Speaker 1: is that there was one sole member who stood up
Speaker 1: and challenged Donald Trump face to face. Congressman Green pointed
Speaker 1: that cane to Donald Trump and said, you do not have.
Speaker 2: A mandate to cut Medicaid. He stood up boldly.
Speaker 1: He said he didn't intend to protest verbally, he just
Speaker 1: intended to walk out. Several other members walked out of
Speaker 1: the chamber after Al Green, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, Ayana Presley,
Speaker 1: Sydney Komliger, Dove Maxwell Frost. There were so many members
Speaker 1: who walked out after Congressman Green, but with Al Green
Speaker 1: standing up in the way that he did and specifically
Speaker 1: naming what they call an entitlement program medicate he was saying,
Speaker 1: I'm going to stand up for the most vulnerable in
Speaker 1: my district. Well, I want to name the ten because
Speaker 1: they stood on the wrong side of history by voting
Speaker 1: with the Republicans to censure Congressman Green. Some of you
Speaker 1: may be saying, what does it mean to censure a
Speaker 1: member of Congress. It is a formal reprimand where they
Speaker 1: go into the well of the House. That's when, if
Speaker 1: you're ever watching the house floor on C Span or
Speaker 1: somewhere else where the members go down to speak and
Speaker 1: they're facing outward, that's called the well. So he had
Speaker 1: to stand in the well and essentially receive a reprimand
Speaker 1: when they voted to censure him and he stood in
Speaker 1: the well of the House, many members came and stood
Speaker 1: with them, and they began to saying, we shall overcome.
Speaker 1: The purpose for that is we know that the punishment
Speaker 1: did not meet the crime. There's no reason, there's no
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason why Congressman Green should have been censured
Speaker 1: when all he did was stand up for the vulnerable
Speaker 1: amongst us. He wanted to ensure that they had a voice,
Speaker 1: and they knew that there was someone who would speak
Speaker 1: up on their behalf and protect something as critical to
Speaker 1: our survival as medicaid. Well, there are members of Congress
Speaker 1: who have historically said they support medicaid, but they voted
Speaker 1: to Center al Green despite him sure violating the rules
Speaker 1: of decorn. But when somebody's lying to your face before
Speaker 1: the American people, somebody got to call him out on it.
Speaker 1: So these are the members that voted to Center al Green.
Speaker 1: And I think it's important because we're living in times
Speaker 1: where there should be no agreement with Republicans on a
Speaker 1: disciplinary procedure for someone who's challenging someone who's lying to us.
Speaker 1: When you stand up for truth, you should not be
Speaker 1: reprimanded for standing up for facts. So ed Case voted
Speaker 1: to cinchor al Green, Chrissy Hulahan, James Hines or Jim
Speaker 1: Hins as we know him, Mary, I'm sorry. Marie Glusen,
Speaker 1: caamp Perez Beara, Jared Moskowitz, Jim Costa, Laura Gillen, Thomas Suosi,
Speaker 1: Marcy Captor are the members who voted to censure Congressman Green.
Speaker 1: And I think that it needs to be called out
Speaker 1: because even someone like Ami Bea said that he supports
Speaker 1: civil disobedience, and to me, that's saying that what mister
Speaker 1: Green did was not civil. Well, if you can remember
Speaker 1: that all of these folks have a significant population in
Speaker 1: their district who are on Medicaid. He told the President
Speaker 1: you do not have a mandate to cut medicaid. They
Speaker 1: should at least be able to align on that point,
Speaker 1: even if you disagree with how.
Speaker 2: He did it. At least someone set up to the president.
Speaker 1: And the last time that I checked, Nipsey Hustle, they
Speaker 1: were all elected to make sure that Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: accountable to their constituents, to the American people.
Speaker 2: He's not following.
Speaker 1: Nobody voted for Donald Trump to cut Medicaid except for
Speaker 1: maybe the richest among us. And I think that is
Speaker 1: what is remarkably dangerous. So we have to remember that
Speaker 1: these folks are to be accountable to the collective. They
Speaker 1: should be voting in alignment with what Congressman Jeffries, who
Speaker 1: is the Democratic leader we've been calling him the opposition leader, says,
Speaker 1: and that means not voting to harm black or brown people,
Speaker 1: but also not poor white folks, some of whom live
Speaker 1: in their districts. So I think that is what we
Speaker 1: need to remember in this moment. Call them and let
Speaker 1: them know they better not fall out of line anymore.
Speaker 1: Because they did that. There was a whole robust conversation
Speaker 1: about whether or not the Democrats who stood or all
Speaker 1: the members who stood with Congressman Green in the well
Speaker 1: of the House while he was reprimanded post censure, whether
Speaker 1: they should be stripped of their committees. We can't afford
Speaker 1: to lose their voices on key committees. They are the
Speaker 1: folks who are challenging Trump appointees and others on facts.
Speaker 1: If we lose their voices in those committee, we're really
Speaker 1: in trouble. And that is how fascism continues to grow.
Speaker 1: So they at least should be voting against fascism. When
Speaker 1: you look historically in the House, there's a history point,
Speaker 1: a site on the House that talks about how many
Speaker 1: members of Congress have been centered in history.
Speaker 2: We're talking about twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Congressman Green became the twenty eighth, and when you look
Speaker 1: at the reasons why most of them, until Republicans got
Speaker 1: in charge a couple of years ago, we're censure because
Speaker 1: they broke the law. Please tell me what law Congressman
Speaker 1: Green broke. And that's the point. So Brittany I Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for your question. I will see you soon.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, welcome home. All right? Hello, Please
Speaker 2: say your name and where you're from.
Speaker 3: Hey, Angela. My name is Tanya Lobo and I'm from Taunton, Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: Are you today?
Speaker 1: I am great. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Tell me your question.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. So my question is how
Speaker 3: do we so obviously we know, when you've said it
Speaker 3: so many times, we're fighting for our lives right now,
Speaker 3: right but on the local level, we're wanting to run
Speaker 3: for elections, make sure that we're involved effect change in
Speaker 3: our own little area of the world. How do we
Speaker 3: motivate those who are saying I'm not worried about all that, right,
Speaker 3: I'm just here to survive. I'm trying to figure this
Speaker 3: all out. What is our message when we're knocking on doors,
Speaker 3: you know, how do we get our national and state
Speaker 3: leaders to help community activists, you know, local organizations to
Speaker 3: actually be able to do this. We're not thinking about
Speaker 3: at least right now here. This is our year for
Speaker 3: local election. We're not thinking about twenty twenty six. We're
Speaker 3: thinking about what are we going to do right now
Speaker 3: to make sure that the fifteen to twenty percent that
Speaker 3: come out, like we can have more percentage come out
Speaker 3: and vote. Then you know, the low numbers that we
Speaker 3: normally get during a local election. That really is a
Speaker 3: concern as we're sitting here trying to figure out what
Speaker 3: our message is because when we when we look nationally,
Speaker 3: we don't even know what our messages in the Democratic
Speaker 3: Party at the moment, which you are you say it
Speaker 3: all the time, so that that's really just my question,
Speaker 3: what do we do locally?
Speaker 2: Well, let me turn this back on you.
Speaker 1: You said a key thing you said when we knock
Speaker 1: on doors, So I take it and means Sonanya, that
Speaker 1: you're knocking doors about the election?
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: What organization are you a part of or did you start?
Speaker 3: So? I'm the founder and executive director of the True
Speaker 3: Collective and it's a local organization and we've been doing
Speaker 3: the thing we are currently, you know, opening our own
Speaker 3: community center. We've gotten lots of grants whatever. But I
Speaker 3: guess it's the frustration on my end is I'm only
Speaker 3: one person. I don't have the army, the backup, I
Speaker 3: don't have the national accolades, you know, but I'm doing
Speaker 3: the work, and I have grassroots individuals who are like,
Speaker 3: we want to do what we want to do it right,
Speaker 3: But there's usually like five to twenty of us at
Speaker 3: the most, you know, at these protests are different things
Speaker 3: going on, but that's not what's that's not what's working. Right,
Speaker 3: Going going in the streets and holding up a sign
Speaker 3: isn't what's working. We need to knock on doors. We
Speaker 3: need to start talking to people. I have a State
Speaker 3: of the Community coming up. I've invited all our federal, state, local,
Speaker 3: you know, elected officials to come and talk to us.
Speaker 3: We need to talk to you. They keep having these
Speaker 3: town halls, but I don't know something is off because
Speaker 3: we aren't there, and I don't think they really understand
Speaker 3: what's going on. So I'm in Massachusetts and obviously not
Speaker 3: really in re Presley's district. But who we have here
Speaker 3: they don't have. They don't understand what and I always
Speaker 3: say our community within the larger community because they don't
Speaker 3: understand what's really going on. So how do we talk
Speaker 3: to us right? Because we're the ones who sat back,
Speaker 3: We're the ones who said we weren't voting for Kamala.
Speaker 3: We were the ones who said that we weren't. We
Speaker 3: We've been disenfranchised for so long and you know they
Speaker 3: don't do anything for us. But in actuality, politics is
Speaker 3: paying attention to you, even though you're not paying attention
Speaker 3: to politics. What are we doing to make sure that
Speaker 3: they know we care? And we need to figure out
Speaker 3: what to do together, because like you always say, we
Speaker 3: all we.
Speaker 1: Got so when you say we are the ones who
Speaker 1: didn't vote for Kamala Harris, you're saying your organization or
Speaker 1: were there other folks in the community who didn't.
Speaker 3: Other folks in the community. It was so many arguments
Speaker 3: that we've had and I don't want to say arguments,
Speaker 3: but back and forth with do you mean you're not
Speaker 3: coming out to vote? You know, as we're knocking on doors,
Speaker 3: as we're just having conversation. It was very shocking to
Speaker 3: me to see how many of us and I mean
Speaker 3: black people who were just like completely disengaged and saying
Speaker 3: they're going to do what they want anyway. And now
Speaker 3: we're here and now you want to do something. But
Speaker 3: where were you when we were saying, just, you know,
Speaker 3: take a couple of minutes to go and vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I will tell you this.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm trying to do in
Speaker 1: the shift. In my own posture is what asking myself?
Speaker 1: What good does it do to tell someone I told
Speaker 1: you so? At this point, like I told you so,
Speaker 1: as not a motivator to get someone out of the
Speaker 1: house to help you knocked doors to help you organize.
Speaker 1: So really, the unifying factor has to be what is
Speaker 1: necessary for our survival. Even if congress Woman Pressley is
Speaker 1: not your Remember, I'm confident that she would love to
Speaker 1: know about the work you're doing if she doesn't already,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure she would want you engaged in the
Speaker 1: stuff they're doing. Who is your member of Congress based
Speaker 1: on where your organs position in Massachusetts?
Speaker 3: Jake Falking Class, I don't.
Speaker 2: Even know who that is, but call call Jake. Now.
Speaker 3: I've spoken to Jake. I've invited him. You know, his
Speaker 3: scheduler is working to see if he can come out.
Speaker 3: But it's always that, right, you get the go between
Speaker 3: and let's see if we can fit it in the schedule.
Speaker 3: But you know, we're not a major whatever, So will
Speaker 3: they come out. We're waiting to see. We're still you know,
Speaker 3: they're they're very active in our community.
Speaker 1: But I would ask Ayana to apply pressure to him.
Speaker 3: I would ask I did hear what? I think her
Speaker 3: name is miss Edie or something. But we emailed, and
Speaker 3: we've emailed everyone, everyone who represents federal and state, Warren Markey,
Speaker 3: all of them. We've emailed everybody.
Speaker 1: But I think what I'm trying to suggest, Tanya is
Speaker 1: it might be a different approach than an email.
Speaker 2: It may be a call.
Speaker 1: It may be an email's open copying some people that
Speaker 1: you know may be helpful.
Speaker 2: It may be.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we had a conversation because if there's
Speaker 1: something that you can give to Lolo that I can
Speaker 1: put on Ayana's radar, I will. One of the things
Speaker 1: that we've seen in the last few weeks is that
Speaker 1: coalition matters. We're not trying to go alone anymore. So
Speaker 1: who is the NAACP president or the state the NAACP
Speaker 1: chair in your area that can help? Can you guys
Speaker 1: have a collaborative convening with a multi racial coalition of
Speaker 1: folks who are engaged in this process right now? Can
Speaker 1: you all have a candidates form where people are hearing
Speaker 1: from their candidates. You know, when you're knocking on doors,
Speaker 1: are you listening or are you just talking at people.
Speaker 1: That also makes a really big difference, because, yeah, we
Speaker 1: can get mad that they didn't participate, but the reason
Speaker 1: people didn't participate is because they didn't see themselves in
Speaker 1: the process. And the reason why they don't see themselves
Speaker 1: in the process is because they didn't go vote. So
Speaker 1: who's going to break the cycle? Like That's a conversation
Speaker 1: that needs.
Speaker 2: To be had.
Speaker 1: The other thing that we have been doing is deepening
Speaker 1: into listening a lot more. The tactics that we tried
Speaker 1: for the last several decades did not yield the results
Speaker 1: we desperately need.
Speaker 2: That means a.
Speaker 1: Paradigm shift has to happen, you know, And so I
Speaker 1: think that's another piece of it as well. Again, even
Speaker 1: when we just plan the State of the People twenty
Speaker 1: four hour marathon, if you go back and look at it,
Speaker 1: you will see people from a bunch of different organizations,
Speaker 1: a bunch of different voices, some who don't even like
Speaker 1: each other, but know that it's more important.
Speaker 2: If we agree seventy five eighty eighty five ninety.
Speaker 1: Percent of the time, then that is a majority, and
Speaker 1: that is enough to hold hands, lock arm in arm,
Speaker 1: and go forward together. That is our only mission right now.
Speaker 1: If members of Congress aren't being responsive to you, let
Speaker 1: us know they work for you. But also if we
Speaker 1: can get to them early, sooner and easier, we will.
Speaker 2: Help to do that.
Speaker 1: I know firsthand Ayana shows up for the people, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying Ayana is my friend, But congress Woman Presley
Speaker 1: shows up for the people massively and across the country
Speaker 1: and across the globe, so I know she would do
Speaker 1: it in Massachusetts. My experience with Senator Warren's folks is
Speaker 1: not much different. I wish that she would be more
Speaker 1: vocal and more out in the front than what I've
Speaker 1: seen her lately, because she was such a powerful voice
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty election, and I just wish that
Speaker 1: we were seeing more of her because she always speaks
Speaker 1: truth to power. The main thing is I love that
Speaker 1: you guys are door knocking. I don't know how long
Speaker 1: we're going to have access to these social media platforms,
Speaker 1: and we need to be mindful and aware of that.
Speaker 2: I am very concerned about that.
Speaker 1: So the fact that y'all are still engaging in old
Speaker 1: school tactics and building up your database and figuring out
Speaker 1: how you're going to keep talking to people is really
Speaker 1: really smart, Tanya. I will just say this last thing
Speaker 1: because I know you didn't ask me for tactics specifically,
Speaker 1: but for you, when you're giving all that you have
Speaker 1: to your organization, it needs to feel rejuvenating. And if
Speaker 1: it's feeling like it is draining you more than it
Speaker 1: is pouring back in you, it's a sign from the
Speaker 1: most high that something has to shift. And I'm telling
Speaker 1: you this firsthand because I just went through this. There
Speaker 1: were a lot of things I was doing, a lot
Speaker 1: of battles I was fighting that were not mine. And
Speaker 1: I went to my friend's Bible study on the phone
Speaker 1: and I heard it two months in a row, like
Speaker 1: I'm fighting some extra because I'll fight anybody and anything.
Speaker 2: Ain't my call no more.
Speaker 1: Like now, my call is to be strategically focused on
Speaker 1: the battle that is mine.
Speaker 2: The rest of it is the Lord's.
Speaker 1: A Jolanda Adam said, you gotta stay focused on the
Speaker 1: gifts that you have, the gifts that aren't yours. You
Speaker 1: got to delegate those out. And it might mean trusting
Speaker 1: and delegating again to somebody who let you down and.
Speaker 2: Drop the ball before.
Speaker 1: That's so hard, I know, I know, but they will
Speaker 1: show up this time. The season has changed, so you
Speaker 1: got to shift with it, be still and listen to
Speaker 1: the work that is yours to do. Because I'm clear
Speaker 1: just from talking to you, Oh you got it. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing something right now. But I can
Speaker 1: also see the exasperation on your face.
Speaker 2: Yes, I can see.
Speaker 1: I can see. I can see your drained. I can
Speaker 1: see that you're tired. I can see the frustration. But
Speaker 1: part of that means, Tanya, there's some people who are
Speaker 1: trying to communicate something to you that you're not hearing.
Speaker 1: And what we normally do is like, no, I gotta
Speaker 1: figure it out. I know we're supposed to go down
Speaker 1: this blah blah blah. But I'm telling you, even from
Speaker 1: the twenty four hour marathon, I learned from Lolo and
Speaker 1: from Holly and from Mark and from Ashley and all
Speaker 1: these people.
Speaker 2: I didn't have everything that I was supposed to have
Speaker 2: to do this.
Speaker 3: You don't know me, but I'm a crime baby. So
Speaker 3: we're not going to make.
Speaker 1: Say you say, but I'm just saying I literally God
Speaker 1: gave me a part of a vision, and the part
Speaker 1: of the vision he gave me was the part that
Speaker 1: was mine to do and the rest of it. I
Speaker 1: had to just surrender because it was everybody else and
Speaker 1: their gifts and their talents and their time to do.
Speaker 1: And it was hard for me because guess what, Tanya,
Speaker 1: I can tell this about you too. I don't like
Speaker 1: to ask for help, don't I don't like to ask
Speaker 1: as for help because for the most part is this
Speaker 1: It is not even me being like prophetic. For the
Speaker 1: most part, the people who get into this are those
Speaker 1: who will be like, I'll carry the whole community and culture.
Speaker 2: On my back if I have to, yep.
Speaker 1: But that's not your work right now. Your work right
Speaker 1: now is to find coalition. It is to identify the talents.
Speaker 1: It is to call forth the gifts and to build together.
Speaker 2: Do not stop.
Speaker 1: We need you, We got you. You are going to
Speaker 1: be able to push this forward, and we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna do a tour so hopefully we can come do
Speaker 1: this with you. And if people need to see names, fine,
Speaker 1: let them see names. We'll make sure that you're surrounded
Speaker 1: and covered.
Speaker 2: But just start. Whoever, whoever there's a grudge.
Speaker 1: Release it and call that person today wherever somebody you know,
Speaker 1: somebody let you down and they didn't come through. Call
Speaker 1: them today, be like, nothing else matters right now but
Speaker 1: Black survival and liberation. Nothing else matters. But making sure
Speaker 1: that somebody who deserves to be here don't get deported.
Speaker 1: Nothing else matters, or making sure people who are sit
Speaker 1: god healthcare. Nothing else matters, but making sure we preserve
Speaker 1: cancer funding research. Nothing else matters, but making sure that
Speaker 1: folks who need snap benefits have it. So everything else
Speaker 1: we're carrying, let it go.
Speaker 3: You're not prophetic, but I have been struggling with that,
Speaker 3: and the Lord has been talking to me. So you
Speaker 3: said a word, and I know that it means that
Speaker 3: that's what I'm supposed to do. So I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you caught in.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can see I was like, I
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're dealing with.
Speaker 2: I can see that in your faith.
Speaker 1: But yes, you got this, and don't give up, and
Speaker 1: please make sure you stay in contact with us through Lolo.
Speaker 2: Probably already got a whole bunch of no treat right now.
Speaker 2: I'm I already knew I know her, I know her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we don't want you to give up, and
Speaker 1: I know that we need you in this fight too,
Speaker 1: so maybe just even you coming to be a part
Speaker 1: of this with us. There's some you know, mutual sharing
Speaker 1: that we can engage with, or we can give you
Speaker 1: what you need you feel poured into so you can
Speaker 1: go give the community what you need, thank you, or
Speaker 1: what they need. Yeah both, reciple absolutely, Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: Kanya you too. Well you guys, I know we're a
Speaker 1: little bit over, but we have.
Speaker 2: A few more guests.
Speaker 1: I have to be obedient to my spirit, so that's
Speaker 1: what I was doing. I do not apologize for that
Speaker 1: when you're a little over, So stick with us, and
Speaker 1: we have another question coming up. Hi yam, all right,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Please tell us your name and
Speaker 1: where you're from.
Speaker 5: I'm doing great. My name is Jaya Davon. I am
Speaker 5: in New York. I'm so honored to be here. I'm
Speaker 5: honored to be here.
Speaker 2: Are you in the city?
Speaker 5: I am, I am, I am here. I'm honored to
Speaker 5: be speaking to you. I'm so grateful for the work
Speaker 5: that you do that Native Lamb pod does. You are
Speaker 5: on my vision board in college, so to be holding
Speaker 5: space with you right now is insane. So thank you
Speaker 5: for that. My question is in this time of deep division,
Speaker 5: with so many conflicting messages, voices, platforms. Everybody got a podcast,
Speaker 5: as everybody has an opinion, everybody is on social media.
Speaker 5: How do we begin to unify around a common purpose?
Speaker 5: And then also should we even be looking for a
Speaker 5: single definitive leader or is that the wrong approach? Like
Speaker 5: I'm hearing a lot about who's the leader of the
Speaker 5: Democratic Party, who's the leader of this? And it also
Speaker 5: sometimes feels as though people are more focused on becoming
Speaker 5: high profile activists than actually doing the real work of change.
Speaker 5: And Bernice King, she once noted recently, I think it
Speaker 5: was for Black History Month, that her father, doctor Martin
Speaker 5: Luther King Junior, wasn't considered famous in his time and
Speaker 5: in his era. And people of today get that conflicted
Speaker 5: because we honor him in such, you know, great fashion,
Speaker 5: But he wasn't famous then. So what does that tell
Speaker 5: us about leadership today in this mine digital era.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would tell you, Ja, first of all, thank
Speaker 1: you for all that you shared and the compliments. I'm
Speaker 1: really grateful to have been on your college vision board.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of you young folks talking about Oh I
Speaker 1: learned about you when I was this school.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that is no.
Speaker 3: I've been following you that a long time and I've
Speaker 3: been out of college.
Speaker 2: But that's my point that no, but these I'm telling
Speaker 2: you that.
Speaker 1: But that's the point too, Like a long time ago
Speaker 1: when I was a college I'm like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: so disrespectful, but it's fine. I'm really really grateful for that.
Speaker 1: I will tell you that now. It is imperative that
Speaker 1: we keep the main thing the main thing. And black
Speaker 1: folks everywhere knows what that know what that means. It
Speaker 1: is we cannot be distracted with stuff that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It don't matter who the leader is. It don't matter
Speaker 2: who is.
Speaker 1: Trying to put their ego up top and be the
Speaker 1: biggest boss. It don't matter who think they running for
Speaker 1: president in twenty twenty eight, especially those who don't have
Speaker 1: no chance. That's all I'm gonna say with that, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Like that's not our battle right now. Our
Speaker 1: singular mission should be the liberation of black people. Because
Speaker 1: what we know, even from the Civil rights movement, is
Speaker 1: when we went out and protected our rights, our humanity,
Speaker 1: our personhood, that covered everybody. Every time we stand up
Speaker 1: for us, we cover the masses, and we just got
Speaker 1: to remember that right now. And so Ja, I can
Speaker 1: tell from talking to you you are thoughtful. I can
Speaker 1: tell from talking to you you are compassionate. I can
Speaker 1: tell from talking to you deeply care about the upward
Speaker 1: mobility of black folks. That's what you fight right now,
Speaker 1: That's what you push right now. You yoke up with
Speaker 1: people who are aligned with that mission and you push
Speaker 1: towards that. There is a lot of space and needs
Speaker 1: for volunteers and what we're trying to build. We would
Speaker 1: love to have you. Everybody's volunteering.
Speaker 2: I am too. We would love to have you.
Speaker 1: We want like minded people who love our people enough
Speaker 1: to push us forward.
Speaker 2: The leaders will show up, The leaders will rise to
Speaker 2: the top. The leaders will bring others along with them.
Speaker 1: We don't have to identify that. That's on God, Like
Speaker 1: we can let that go, you know. And I will
Speaker 1: just say shout out to my brother Hakim Jeffries, who
Speaker 1: is the highest ranking black person in the party, okay
Speaker 1: in the party right now, And I thank God because
Speaker 1: I'm watching an evolution happen with Hai Kim Jeffries where
Speaker 1: he's starting to show up and like, oh, we fighting Okay,
Speaker 1: well then let's fight with it, and it is what
Speaker 1: is needed for the moment. People just want to see
Speaker 1: that they're protected. So our obligation is protect one another,
Speaker 1: to love on one another, to tell the truth to
Speaker 1: each other, to make sure that when harm is coming,
Speaker 1: we hunker down and protect against those harms. And that
Speaker 1: is leadership. Leadership isn't about being seen or going viral.
Speaker 1: If that happens, more power team if it doesn't, keep
Speaker 1: doing the work, and that's what we have to focus on.
Speaker 1: I would just challenge you to not be worried about
Speaker 1: the distract and keep the main thing the main thing.
Speaker 5: I received that.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Angela, Thank you, Jane, I really appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Sure, Okay, thank you, welcome hall, thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I think we have a couple of more questions. Let's
Speaker 1: put the next one up. Tell me your name so
Speaker 1: that people know my.
Speaker 6: Name is Brandon James Scott. I just the question is like,
Speaker 6: what does the resistance look like knowing that this we're
Speaker 6: up now against a very huge structure of people that
Speaker 6: do not play fair and do not follow the laws themselves.
Speaker 1: Yes, Brandon, where are you from?
Speaker 6: I'm live I'm in Live in Memphis, Tennessee. But I've
Speaker 6: been over twenty years.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, but you're from Memphis.
Speaker 3: No, I'm from Florida originally.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So you're from Florida originally and now you live in Memphis.
Speaker 6: Now I'm living in Memphis. I moved to Memphis to
Speaker 6: create some change.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So the question for Brandon is what does the resistance
Speaker 1: look like? Let me tell y'all something that you're not
Speaker 1: gonna like.
Speaker 2: The resistance is so twenty twenty, honey, it's no. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: The resistance is so twenty sixteen, honey. There was twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two as well. And I think we are called
Speaker 1: beyond the resistance right now. We are the opposition because
Speaker 1: we are embodying our power. I was in Selma this
Speaker 1: past weekend for the commemoration of Bloody Sunday, and even
Speaker 1: as we walked across the Evan Pettis Bridge back into
Speaker 1: time because that's where this fascist regime is trying to
Speaker 1: take us back into time, what I know is.
Speaker 2: That we are still in our power.
Speaker 1: Janey Nelson from NAACPLDF define democracy as the power of
Speaker 1: the people, and so what we are being called to
Speaker 1: do is to sit within, to embody our full power,
Speaker 1: to unite, to realize that the power is in numbers.
Speaker 1: We cannot engage in the math of subtraction and division.
Speaker 1: We must engage in the math of addition and multiplication.
Speaker 1: It is required of us. When the people unite, they
Speaker 1: will never be defeated. That is the protest line. The
Speaker 1: people I was gonna say, divided Jesus, the people united
Speaker 1: will never be defeated, right, that is the line. So
Speaker 1: if we can stand together, if we can get rid
Speaker 1: of petty disagreements, if we can get rid of old beef,
Speaker 1: if we can shed who needs to be in charge,
Speaker 1: if we can get rid of ego, the people united
Speaker 1: will never be defeated. And that's what we got to
Speaker 1: know right now. The People united are the opposition because
Speaker 1: there's power in numbers. The people united is what democracy
Speaker 1: looks like. Know this alleged democracy and never served you.
Speaker 1: But yes, you can build the democracy we deserve. You
Speaker 1: must because the People united will never be defeated, Brandon,
Speaker 1: And that's the part. So I will tell you this too.
Speaker 1: As you are in Memphis. I want you to know
Speaker 1: that Memphis has a very very special place in my heart.
Speaker 2: Memphis is a.
Speaker 1: Place for black people to go for a spiritual pilgrimage.
Speaker 1: That is where they took out doctor King. So if
Speaker 1: we can go back to Memphis together as a people,
Speaker 1: I don't know when we're going to do this, but
Speaker 1: I feel strongly that we must. That is where the
Speaker 1: rebirth is. Doctor King preached a sermon called a Knock
Speaker 1: at Midnight. It was midnight when he was assassinated. For us,
Speaker 1: it's time for us to come out of midnight. It's
Speaker 1: time for us to come together and turn the page
Speaker 1: of what is very dark in our historical past, that
Speaker 1: darkness they're trying to bring back. It might be midnight
Speaker 1: for all of us right now. Midnight is the darkest hour.
Speaker 1: But at some point day has to break and the
Speaker 1: People United will never be defeated as how we see daylight.
Speaker 1: So I want to encourage you with that, Brandon. I
Speaker 1: look forward to working with you. I hope that we
Speaker 1: don't focus on resisting and we focus on empowering. I
Speaker 1: hope that we focus on opposition, because that's where the
Speaker 1: power that people really is.
Speaker 3: Thank you that was very well put.
Speaker 6: And pray for Memphis right now because they just sold
Speaker 6: a lot of land to Eon Musk, so pray for Memphis.
Speaker 1: Eon is right Ei eio elon. We are not here
Speaker 1: for you. We got to take them on. And I
Speaker 1: think that this is the kind of thing where we
Speaker 1: should be starting to go fund me and trying to
Speaker 1: reclaim property. But you're absolutely right. They always take advantage
Speaker 1: of what who is most vulnerable and the areas that
Speaker 1: are most vulnerable among us, the People United is what
Speaker 1: will make us see something different. So thank you so much, Brandon,
Speaker 1: Thank you obay?
Speaker 2: Okay? Is that all the questions y'all? Did we get
Speaker 2: through everybody? All right?
Speaker 1: Well, we so appreciate your time today. Let's keep talking
Speaker 1: y'all again. It is the trick of the enemy to
Speaker 1: make us feel like we are by ourselves, like we
Speaker 1: are alone, we are in isolation. Keep talking to your neighbors,
Speaker 1: keep talking to your friends, Keep digging in with how
Speaker 1: we can fight against this fascist regime called the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: Do not let them steal your joy, Do not let
Speaker 1: them steal your creative ability to unite, come together and
Speaker 1: fight back. The People United will never be defeated. Welcome home, y'all.
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