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Welcome to our podcast. 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Please be aware of the thoughts and opinions expressed by 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: the host are their thoughts and opinions only and do 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: not reflect those of I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage you to 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: do your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Get ready to be amazed weird. This is Strange Things 14 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: with Wren. I am Joshua FE. Warren, and each week 15 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: on this show, I'll be bringing you brand new mind 16 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: blowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments you can do 17 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: at home, and a lot more on this edition of 18 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: the show. Here's what I know about the Philadelphia experiment. 19 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: If you were to travel right now, I mean right now, 20 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 1: poof this instant from here the year two into the past. Okay, 21 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: you're traveling from the future into the past. Maybe you 22 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: walk through a portal, you're in a time machine, whatever, 23 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: How would you prove that you were from the future. 24 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: You're talking to everybody at whatever point you end up at, 25 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: and you're he say, yes, I'm from the future. They say, 26 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: prove it. How would you do that? What would you say? Well? 27 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: Here in Las Vegas, I recently went to the Big 28 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Fancy When Casino and finally got to see in person 29 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: one of my favorite stand up comedians, Nate Bargatsy, who 30 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: is actually from Tennessee and I'm from North Carolina, so 31 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: we're neighbors. But Lauren and I had a wonderful time 32 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: at the show, and one of my favorite bits by 33 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: Nate Bargatsy is from his Comedy Central special called Full 34 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: Time Magic, where he basically poses the question if I 35 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: traveled back in time, how would I prove I was 36 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: from the future. Well, listen to this little excerpt. I 37 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: think of it like, uh, like time traveling, Like if 38 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: I could go back in time, Like if I could 39 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: go back time tonight and go back to like the twenties, 40 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: knowing everything I know right now, I don't think I 41 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: would make a difference. I don't think you guys would 42 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: even hear about it. I don't think you would. I 43 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: just don't because I don't have anything to get, you know, 44 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Like I would go back and I would see like 45 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: some guy on an old phone and I'd be like, hey, 46 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: eventually they have phones you like carry in your pocket, 47 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, it's like, how do they do it? 48 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, I don't know how they do it. Um, 49 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a satellite. I think a satellite. They're like, 50 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: what's the satellite? I should have even said that. Uh, 51 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: it's like metal Metal's gonna go pretty high in the air. 52 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are doing I don't 53 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: even know if I could prove from the future. I 54 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: don't even think I could. I think I would just 55 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: get stuck because they would want something like who's the 56 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: next president? Oh boy? Uh who Abraham Lincoln? You guys 57 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: are gonna love him, He's really good. They just think 58 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: I'm from the past, and that's what they were like. 59 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: It would just look like I didn't have to get 60 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: a regular job, and I would just have to like 61 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: wait tables or something. And the twenties. I would go 62 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: back in time and do worse than I'm doing right now. 63 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you you've got to look up Nate Bargatsy 64 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: on Netflix. His last name is spelled b A R 65 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: G A t z E. I think one of the 66 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: shows is called The Tennessee Kid. He is hilarious Nate 67 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: Bargatsy dot com. And he makes a great point, doesn't he. 68 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: I've wondered about this same exact thing, and maybe you 69 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: have to. But you know what's even more perplexing. If 70 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: you were from the future traveling into the past, realistically, 71 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: you could probably do or explain or predict things that 72 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: could demonstrate that you're from the future. I think you'd 73 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: figure something out. I hope we could do that. You 74 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: might be surprised things that you don't even realize, you know. 75 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: But what's really perplexing is trying to figure out how 76 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: you could prove that you had time traveled and you 77 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: were from the past. Now, let that sink in for 78 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: a moment. How do you prove that you are from 79 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: the past, because anything you say could potentially be the 80 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: product of something you had looked up in some archive, right, 81 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: And I mean if anybody had the ability to go 82 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: back and look that up to verify it. Well, that 83 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: means you could have done the same thing to get 84 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: that information. How do you prove you are from the past. Now, 85 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna this is such a deep question that I'm 86 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: going to pause for just a moment and really let 87 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: you think about that for a while. How would you 88 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: prove that you are from the past. Okay, I'll give 89 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: you a few seconds think about it. That was the 90 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: question posed by a kind of cheesy movie that came 91 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: out in nineteen eighty four called The Philadelphia Experiment. A 92 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: couple of Navy men are part of a space time 93 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: warping experiment on a ship, and they end up being 94 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: teleported from nineteen forty three to nineteen eighty four, and 95 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: they have to explain, of course that they're not crazy, 96 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: that they're actually from the past, and at the same 97 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: time they're running from government agents, et cetera. It's actually 98 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: been a long time since I've seen it, but that 99 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: movie was based on a very strange legend that sun 100 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: belief is either in part or all together a whole, 101 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: and many people say it's all hogwash, And then you know, again, 102 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: we have those who say, well this is partially true, Well, 103 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: look guess what I yours truly, Joshua P. Warren actually 104 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: have some personal insight on this from a man on 105 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: the inside that I am going to share with you 106 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: on this show right now. And by the way, that 107 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: question that I asked about how to prove that you're 108 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: from the future, I have asked that question of many 109 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: many people over the years, and nobody had a good answer. 110 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: But one day I finally asked that question to a 111 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 1: young lady and she gave me the best answer I've heard. 112 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: I still don't know if it's a good answer or not, 113 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: but it's the best answer I've heard, and so I'm 114 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: going to tell you what it is. But first, okay, 115 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: let's start from scratch here. What the heck is the 116 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: story behind the Philadelphia Experiment according to modern legend. Well, 117 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: let me do my best to explain here. First off, 118 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: let's keep this simple. Let me go to Wikipedia and 119 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: tell you what what it says right at the top here, 120 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Wikipedia says the Philadelphia Experiment is a conspiracy theory about 121 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: a military experiment supposed to have been carried out by 122 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: the U. S. Navy at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 123 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: United States. Sometime around October of nineteen forty three, a 124 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: US Navy ship, a destroyer escort called the U S. S. Eldridge, 125 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: was claimed to have been rendered invisible or cloaked to 126 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: enemy devices. Okay, so that's that's the gist of it. 127 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: But from there, when you actually start looking at what 128 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: is supposed to be the true story, it gets really 129 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: weird and disturbing and complex. So let me start telling 130 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: you sort of the origins and we'll get into the story. 131 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna have to take a break here in 132 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: a minute, but let's let me get us started here. Okay. 133 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: So in nineteen fifty five, a scientist named Morris K. Jessup, 134 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: remember that name, Jessop. He published this popular book. It 135 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: was called The Case for the UFO Unidentified Flying Objects. Now, 136 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: one day in nineteen fifty five, a man named Carl 137 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: m Allen, who was an ex merchant marine. He mailed 138 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: a copy of this book to the US Office of 139 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: Naval Research. Okay, so Jessop wrote the book. Alan, this guy, 140 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: who was an ex merchant marine, mails a copy of 141 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: this to the Office of Naval Research, and the book 142 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: was filled with all these handwritten notes in the margins 143 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: as well as additional notes on paper, and the notes 144 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: commented on some of the author's Jessup's ideas about the 145 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: propulsion for flying saucers, and it discusses alien races, and 146 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: this guy, Carl Allen is expressing concern that Jessip is 147 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: getting too close to discovering this technology and needs to 148 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: back off right so now. Shortly thereafter, in January of 149 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty six, Carl M. Allen, this ex merchant mariner, 150 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: he starts sending a series of letters directly to the 151 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: author of the book, Morris K. Jessup. The first known 152 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: letter warned Jessip not to investigate the levitation of unidentified 153 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: flying objects. And then Alan put forth a cautionary tell 154 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: a story of dangerous science, based on unpublished theories by 155 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: Albert Einstein about warping space and time. And he further 156 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: claimed that a scientist named Franklin Reno had put these 157 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: theories into practice at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. They're in 158 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: October of nine, and Alan said that he was a 159 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: witness to this experiment while he was serving aboard a 160 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: ship called the S. S Andrew First of Okay, when 161 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: we come back from this break, I'm gonna tell you 162 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: why Alan claimed to have witnessed and what do you 163 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: think happened to the author Jessup once he started digging 164 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: really deep into this I bet you can guess there 165 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: was so much more to this story. We're gonna get 166 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: to the bottom of it best we can. When we 167 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: come back from the break, I'll continue. Let me just 168 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: tell you, however, if you're one of those people who 169 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: you know you listen to this stuff and you know 170 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: that I have devoted my life to studying matter and 171 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: energy and the relationship between the mind and the body, 172 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: and you say this all interests me. I believe in manifestation. 173 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: I believe in things that I can use to experiment with. 174 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: It might make my life better. But I don't know 175 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: how to get started. I don't know what to do. 176 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't even have any money to get any 177 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: experimental devices and play around. 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I am Joshua pe Warren and 186 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: you're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio 187 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast, a M paranormal podcast network, and 188 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: I will be right back. Keep it here on the 189 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a AM paranormal 190 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: podcast network. The Wizard of Weird will be right back. Hi. 191 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm Sanders Champlain. Please make sure and check out my 192 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: show Shades of the Afterlife, heard right here on the 193 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a M paranormal 194 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: podcast network every eight minutes. The American Red Cross banks 195 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: help and hope to people in need. 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Warren, 204 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: beaming into your wormhole brain from my studio and Sin City, 205 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is golden and every 206 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: night is silver. And I'm talking about the story from 207 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: this man, Carl m Allen, And I keep saying, you know, 208 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: he he was an ex merchant mariner. And in case 209 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: you're not sure what that means, the merchant marine here 210 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: in the United States, it primarily transports cargo and passengers 211 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: during peacetime, but in times of war, the merchant marine 212 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: can be in auxiliary to the United States Navy and 213 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: can be called upon to deliver military personnel, uh and 214 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: material for the military. Merchant marine officers may also be 215 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: commissioned as military offers by the Department of Defense. So 216 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: they serve a very interesting dual role there between peacetime 217 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: and wartime, and so they know a lot, they know 218 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: a little bit about everything that's going on when it 219 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: comes to the coastlines. And so Alan here said that 220 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: he was serving aboard this ship called the S. S 221 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: Andrew for a seth and in his account, okay, here's 222 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: what he said. A navy ship, this destroyer escort, the 223 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: U S S. Eldridge. Uh, it was successfully made invisible. 224 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: So here was the idea to to try to use 225 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: Tesla coils and and other types of equipment to sort 226 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: of shake up and resonate reality and sort of been 227 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: space time, which is a plausible theory really, and see 228 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: if they could sort of been light around that ship 229 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: so that the ship would become invisible to the naked eye. 230 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: That was the intention. And he said that the ship 231 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: was made invisible. But then something else happened. Apparently this 232 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: effect was too powerful, and the ship inexplicably then teleported 233 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: to a whole different place, Norfolk, Virginia, and it was 234 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: there for several minutes, and then it reappeared in the 235 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: Philadelphia yard. And when it reappeared, it was almost like 236 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: this thing had had melted and then reformed. And oh 237 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: my goodness, they say the ship's crew was supposed to 238 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: have suffering all kinds of terrible side effects. Um well, 239 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: many of them were insane. Uh, some were literally frozen 240 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: in place. And so Jessup and Alan they started are 241 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: responding more and more about this, and Jessup actually went 242 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: to the Navy and told the Navy about this correspondence, 243 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: and members of the Navy became, shall we say, very 244 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: interested in just how much information that this guy Alan 245 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: was telling this author Jessip Right, Well, Jessip tried to 246 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: publish more books on the subject of UFOs, but it 247 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: was unsuccessful. Uh. They say, he lost his publisher and 248 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: experienced a series of downturns and his personal life that 249 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: led him to supposedly take his own life in Florida, 250 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: April nineteen fifty nine. That you saw that coming, didn't you. Oh, 251 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: he killed himself, like so many other people who end 252 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: up in his position. Now, a lot of this was 253 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: published in a book in nineteen seventy nine called The 254 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Experiment Project in Visibility by Bill More and Charles Berlitz, 255 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: And the full story is much more horrific. Okay, so 256 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: according to all these different accounts, But I just told 257 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: you that Alan thing is sort of how this first 258 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: was introduced to two mainstream researchers. So here's the here's 259 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: the overall legend by combining. Okay, here's the story. The 260 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: legend according to anecdotes and sketchy reports and you know, 261 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: top secret stuff and I'm going to tell you in 262 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: a minute how much of this may be true. Okay, 263 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: the experiment once again. Now, it was allegedly based on 264 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: an aspect of some unified field theory, a term coined 265 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: by Albert Einstein to describe a class of potential theories. Now, 266 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: these are theories that would aim to describe mathematically and 267 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: physically the interrelated nature of the forces of electro magnetism 268 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: and gravity. So in other words, trying to combine eyeing 269 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: all that into a single field, and using technology that 270 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: might be able to manipulate these fields in some way. Now, 271 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: according to some accounts, some unspecified quote, researchers thought that 272 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: some version of this field would be uh would enable 273 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: using large electrical generators and stuff similar to Tesla coils 274 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: to bend the light around the ship, around an object 275 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: through refraction, so that it would at least become completely 276 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: invisible to the naked eye, but perhaps even radar. And 277 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: you can see why the Navy regarded this as of 278 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: great military value and they sponsored the experiment. Now, even 279 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: though again there are no reliable accounts, here is what 280 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: supposedly happened. Okay, the ship, the USS Eldridge, was fitted 281 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: with all of this resonant equipment at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. 282 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: The testing began in the summer of nineteen forty three, 283 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: and it was supposedly successful to a limited extent. One 284 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: test resulted in the Eldridge being rendered nearly invisible, with 285 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: some witnesses reporting a greenish fog appearing in its place, 286 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: which actually makes sense to me because sometimes when you 287 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: start ionizing the air, you get bluish and greenish fogs, 288 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: and that is often reported in the Bermuda Triangle right 289 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: around the time of some energy convergence where ships start disappearing. 290 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: You've probably heard of the green fog before, so anyway, 291 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: people who were there, crew members especially, complained of severe 292 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: and nausea afterward, and also reportedly when the ship reappeared, 293 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: some sailors were embedded in the metal structures of the ship. 294 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: Remember what I said about visioning something like the guys 295 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: and the ship kind of melt and then they solidify. 296 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: It's as if they were in a non physical state 297 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: and the ship was in a non physical state. But 298 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: when it all snapped back into physical state, sometimes the 299 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: bodies of the men happened to overlap the body of 300 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: the ship. And they became molecularly fused. So this includes 301 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: one sailor who ended up on a deck level below 302 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: that where he began and had his hand embedded in 303 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: the still whole of the ship. They say many sailors 304 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: went quote completely bananas. Uh. There is also a claim 305 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: that the experiment was altered after that point at the 306 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: request of the Navy, limiting it to just trying to 307 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: create stealth technology that would just make the Eldridge invisible 308 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: to radar. So despite the terrible result, it was so amazing, 309 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: so promising, they recalibrated the equipment and the experiment was 310 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: repeated on October nineteen three, and this time the Eldridge 311 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: not only became invisible, but it disappeared from the area 312 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: in a flash of blue light. That is when it's 313 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: supposedly teleported to Norfolk, Virginia. That's over two hundred miles away, 314 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: and it's claimed the Eldridge sat for some time in 315 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: view of the men aboard the s s andrew for 316 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: a seth which is what Alan said he was on, 317 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: where upon the Eldridge then vanished and reappeared in Philadelphia 318 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: at the site where it had originally occupied. Okay and 319 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: it was also said that the worship listen to this. 320 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: It's also said the worship went approximately ten minutes back 321 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: and time. Now. Many versions of this story include descriptions 322 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: of various serious, horrible side effects for the crew. Uh. 323 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: Some crew members were said to have been physically fused 324 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: too to the bulkheads, which are just upright metal walls 325 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: inside the ship, while others suffered from extreme mental disorders. 326 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: Some guys, according to some of these accounts, re materialized 327 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: inside out. Let me repeat that. They claim that some 328 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: of these men re materialized with their bodies turned inside out, 329 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: and others just vanished. Where did they go? Where they lost? 330 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: Somewhere in time? And it's also claimed that the ship's 331 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: crew may have been subjected to brainwashing to sort of 332 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: maintain the secrecy of the experiment. And that is the 333 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: overall legends. So now that you know the story, you 334 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: know how it began, and you know the story, is 335 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: it true? That's the big question? Is it true? Well, 336 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: before I get into what I know, uh, let me 337 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: just I need to bring this up because a lot 338 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: of you probably know about this. There was a man 339 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: and who was making sort of the rounds on the 340 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: speaking circuit in the US in the nineteen nineties who 341 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: claimed that he was one of those sailors on the 342 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: Eldridge who ended up being teleported through time on a 343 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: number of occasions. His name was al Bielick, and he 344 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: died in well, supposedly there when when it comes to 345 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: time travel stuff. Supposedly he died on October tenth of 346 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, when he was eighty four years old. 347 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm gonna tell you what al 348 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: Billick was claiming happened. I you know, my friend Mark L. 349 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: Has Bennett actually got to meet Albilic in person and 350 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: he said he was impressed. So I don't know. I'm 351 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: gonna tell you what Albilic was saying. But then furthermore, 352 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you about the inside knowledge that 353 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: I got on this from one of the most intelligent 354 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: and trusted people that I've ever met in my life. 355 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna get around to that question of 356 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: how would you prove if you were from the past. 357 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua P. Warren. 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I am 376 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: your host, Joshua Pete Warren, and this is the show 377 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: where the unusual becomes usual. And you know, when something 378 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: vibrates fast enough, it starts to look invisible, translucent, like 379 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: fan blades that are spinning fast enough. You can see 380 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: why that if you vibrate something, if you resonate something 381 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: at a high at a higher rate, um, you can 382 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: achieve that invisibility. But what if you go too far? 383 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: What if it's not just the light that you're you're 384 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: rattling around and shaking up. What if it's sort of 385 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: like you have a sand castle sitting in front of you, 386 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: and all the little pieces of sand, all the little 387 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: rains are in place, and you start shaking that, well, 388 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: then they start breaking down. And maybe that's what happens 389 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: when you start using these high powered devices similar to 390 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: Tesla coils, and you start amplifying this residence, this frequency 391 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: more and more and more. You're not only affecting the light, 392 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: but suddenly you start shaking the whole darn molecular structure 393 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: up apart, and maybe up in apart, and maybe it 394 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: becomes so loose and slippery it can even slide back 395 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: and forth through time and space. We don't know how 396 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: all that works at this point as civilians as civilians, 397 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: but maybe the military does. They have the best budgets, right, 398 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: There is some legitimacy behind this concept. So look, I 399 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: don't know if al Bilic was legit or not. I 400 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: just want to give you a little bit of information 401 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: about him, though I have not been able to find 402 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: a video of him being interviewed, which is pretty weird. 403 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: But there is this great website here called destination tips 404 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: dot com and I'm just gonna read you some of 405 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: what they've written here. Justin Andrews. According to popular legend, 406 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty three, the U. S. Navy undertook secret experiments. 407 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: And then he goes on to say in nineteen ninety 408 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: BILLI claimed that he spent time in two separate periods 409 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: of the future, only to return to the present and 410 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: tell his story. And that was just the beginning of 411 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: the fantastic revelations of this totally, completely, absolutely he's being sarcastic, 412 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: he says, not fake time traveler. Okay, So anyway, so 413 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: Billick wasn't actually saying that he was from the past 414 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: necessarily like the characters in the movie. He was saying 415 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: that he uh, he actually spent time in the future. 416 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: Says he was born a peculiar child by his own words, 417 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: and nineteen seven and uh, as a young man, he 418 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: joined the navy to five the Nazis said he was 419 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: a lowly naval officer serving aboard the Eldridge in nineteen 420 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: forty three. And years later, uh he you know, he 421 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: started becoming famous because he said that he and his 422 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: brother who was also on the ship, they were subject 423 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: to some odd happenings on the ship, but they jumped 424 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: to safety and they landed in the year twenty one, 425 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: thirty seven, and at this futuristic hospital he was treated 426 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: with uh, treated for radiation injuries. And he said that, um, 427 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: what is this entertainment in the hospital was solely educational 428 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: and news programming. Okay, so this is what he's saying. 429 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: Thirty seven is like. He said that when he got there, 430 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: he discovered that geographical ships had transformed the globe. The 431 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: coastlines of every continent had changed dramatically. Florida had disappeared 432 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: except for the Panhandle. The Great Lakes were just one 433 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: great lake. Atlanta was three miles from the Atlantic Ocean. 434 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: He said the US infrastructure had been destroyed, the central 435 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: government was a total thing of the past. Both Canada 436 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: and the US were gone, ruled over with a kind 437 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: of locally enforced martial law. He said that the world 438 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: population had diminished. That that's the the US and Europe 439 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: had banded together to fight off China and Russia, and 440 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: this war killed billions of people and essentially ruined the 441 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: world's governments. This is all delightful reading, isn't it. From there, 442 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: he was sent even further forward to the year twenty 443 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: set nine, where he stayed for two years before being 444 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: transported back to one thirty seven, and he said that 445 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: in that day and age, government of any kind is 446 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: non existent. Everything was run by AI called the Synthetic 447 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: Intelligence Computer System and that worked telepathically. Um So this 448 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: goes on and on and on with some of the 449 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: strange claims that he made. And you know, it's it's 450 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: funny because when you know, you could say I've been 451 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: to the future, But if you've been so far into 452 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: the future, well then it also becomes impossible to prove 453 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: that you have spent time in the future, right, because 454 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: there's a sweet spot there where you might be able 455 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: to come from the future back in time and tell 456 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: people who's gonna here's who's gonna win the baseball game 457 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: on Monday or whatever. You know that there's a there's 458 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: a possibility of doing that. Uh, But when you're talking 459 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: about trying to prove you're from the past or that 460 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: you have been way way into the future. It's hard 461 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: to pen somebody down. So I'm not sure what to 462 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: think about al Builic. But once again, he died October 463 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: eleven in Guadalajara, Mexico, supposedly eighty four. He was buried 464 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: at the local cemetery there. And even though his birth 465 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: certificate is dated March thirty one of ninet, he was 466 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: mixed up in so much strange time travel stuff there 467 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: is debate as to whether or not even that date 468 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: is legitimate. Okay, so now what what do I have 469 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: to add to this story? All right? So you have 470 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: heard me talk, I'm sure many times on this program 471 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: about one of the great mentors of mine. He was 472 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: a NASA Hall of Fame engineer named Charles A. Yost 473 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: And I was an apprentice to him, a lab assistant 474 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: for many years in his laboratory in western North Carolina. 475 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: And uh, he had such a vast history. I mean, 476 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: he was one of the spacecraft designers during the Apollo missions, 477 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: including the one that put men on the Moon. And 478 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: he was the real deal. Uh. He was a very 479 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: strict engineer, and and it's interesting that I bring him 480 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: up right now because I recently referenced him. I wrote 481 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: an audio book a few years ago called The Oblivious Gods, 482 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: and I think everybody would enjoy this. It's short, it's 483 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: only thirty minutes long. And my friend John Carter made 484 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: a video version of The Oblivious Gods, which if you 485 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: go to YouTube and you just type in the Oblivious 486 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: Gods and Joshua P. Warren, you can watch this, and 487 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 1: I hope that you will do that, uh, all free 488 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: there on YouTube. And I start the video or I 489 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: start the presentation out by giving a nod to Charles A. 490 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: Yos and I give a quote from him, and there's 491 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: a picture of him there. So Anyway, when I was 492 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: working in the laboratory with Charles Yost, I of course 493 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: asked him about the Philadelphia Experiment and he said, well, 494 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: it just so happens that I was on a team 495 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: of scientists that the U. S. Navy put together to 496 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: investigate the legitimacy of the Philadelphia Experiment. I said, what 497 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: he says, Yeah, he says there, Yeah, there were seven 498 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: of us and we were brought in to do an 499 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: independent review of everything about that case. And we look 500 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: through all of the information, and we look through all 501 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: the accounts and all, and basically he said, we concluded 502 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: that it never happened. So I said, do you mean 503 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: it didn't happen at all? And he goes, well, they 504 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: were doing experiments, but it just didn't happen. We found 505 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: no evidence that it happened the way they said it happened. 506 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: So I was disappointed to hear that. But on the 507 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 1: other hand, I felt refreshed that I trusted this guy 508 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: and he had you know, he had learned some truth. 509 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: I believed him now. He was also a guy who 510 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: would correct himself later in life when he you know, 511 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: he once told me he didn't think the brown mountain 512 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: lights were worth studying, and then it turns out after 513 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: I got some good data, he ended up putting my 514 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: research on the cover of a science journal. So, you know, 515 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 1: it's not like he he was not a believer in things. 516 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: He was a skeptical scientist. But that's what he said 517 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: that he didn't find any any evidence, And I thought, well, well, 518 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: how do we explain this? Then? Well, you know what, 519 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: it turns out there's a very interesting alternative explanation for 520 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: what might have happened that gave rise to this particular legend, 521 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: and it comes to us from Jacques Valet. And uh, 522 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: Jacques Valet, I'm sure you know his name. I mean, 523 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: he's he. He was born September of nineteen thirty nine. 524 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: He is an Internet pioneer, a computer scientist, a venture capitalist, author, astronomer, 525 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: and uthologist. Okay, and I believe that in the movie 526 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: Close Encounters of the Third Kind by Spielberg, that they 527 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: based the French scientist on a Jacques Vallet. I believe 528 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: that's the case. But anyway, he's a very very respected man, 529 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: and as a matter of fact, he and I have 530 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: been corresponding recently, so I might even be able to 531 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: have him on this show at some point. But he 532 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: has a really interesting explanation for what might have happened here. 533 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: And when we come back from this break, gosh, I 534 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: can't believe the show is flown by I'm gonna tell 535 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: you what his explanation is, and then I'm gonna tell 536 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: you also how it's maybe it's possible to prove that 537 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: you're from the past. All I can tell you is 538 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: in twenty I was in phil Delphia, Pennsylvania, and I 539 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: was doing a book signing for my book called Use 540 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: the Force, a Jedi's Guide to the Law of Attraction, 541 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: and at one point I said, I want to make 542 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: it a point two to drive over the bridges over 543 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Shipyard there so I could look down and 544 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: imagine that something happened down there. Um. I don't know 545 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: if it happened exactly the way that the legend goes, 546 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: but I felt I just felt it was a meaningful. 547 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: It was cool for me to look down on that 548 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: water and and imagine the Philadelphia experiment. I'm Joshua Pete Warren. 549 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio 550 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. I will 551 00:39:54,160 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: be right back. Hang on, josh will be right back. 552 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm George Norri. 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But the good news is my 570 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: buddy filmmaker see Eric Scott videotaped my program Finding Your 571 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: Magic two and if you want to watch it, well, 572 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: here's how you can go watch the Finding Your Magic movie. 573 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: Go to you will Manifest dot com. You will Manifest 574 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: dot com and you can watch it there right now. 575 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: And gosh, we had such a great time as you'll 576 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: as you'll see all right. Back to the Philadelphia experiment. Well, 577 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: here is what Jacques Valet said. He said that there 578 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: was another ship there that was docked alongside the Eldridge 579 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty three, and this was called the U S. 580 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: S Angstrom E n G S t R O M. 581 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: And he said that, uh, the on there was a 582 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: procedure that they did an experiment they did there and 583 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: on that ship. The operation involved a generation of powerful 584 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: electro magnetic fields on board the ship in order to 585 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: de gossip. Now, when you decass something, you're making it 586 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: less detectable magnetically, and so you used you can definitely 587 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: use electromagnetism for that. And he said the goal of 588 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: rendering the ship was to make it, Uh was to 589 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: render the ship undetectable or invisible if you will, to 590 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: magnetically fused undersea minds and torpedoes. So apparently they would 591 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: have minds and torpedoes back in those days, and they 592 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: would have a switch or a fuse or whatever that 593 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: would only activate when a ship went overboard or or 594 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: or went went above, when a ship would float over top, 595 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: and then you know, it would activate this thing. And 596 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: so if you could decoss the ship, it wouldn't trigger 597 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: those minds. And it goes on to say here British 598 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: ships of the era often included such degossing systems built 599 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: into upper decks. De goossing is still used today, However, 600 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: it has no effect on visible light or radar, and 601 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: Valet speculates that some of the accounts about them doing 602 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: this stuff with the Inngstrom and decussing it and using 603 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: all these weird um pieces of equipment may have turned in, 604 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, through confabulation two, you know, through subsequent retellings. 605 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: This kind of got morphed into the story of the 606 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 1: Philadelphia experiment. That's much more ethereous sounding thing. And Valet 607 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: cites a veteran who served on board the Angstrom who 608 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: suggests that it might have actually traveled in a test 609 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: run from Philadelphia to Norfolk and back again in a 610 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: single day at a time when merchant ships could not uh, 611 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: that was at a time that it was when it 612 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: was only open to naval vessels and the use of 613 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 1: that channel was kept quiet and German submarines had been 614 00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, threatening the East coast, and basically that there 615 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: was this sort of secret experiment where this ship was 616 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: traveling back and forth between Philadelphia and Virginia there to 617 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: see if it could do so and invisibly so to speak. 618 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: When it comes to you know, not triggering these these 619 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: types of minds, and the same veteran uh said that, uh, 620 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: there was some kind of witness there who disappeared at 621 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: a bar because there was a bar fight that broke 622 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 1: out after the experiment was over or something like that, 623 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: and some guy was running his mouth about it, and 624 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: that uh, some of his buddies covered for him by 625 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: claiming that he had disappeared so imagined like some sailors 626 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: apart of this experiment, and then uh, he goes out 627 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: running his mouth the bar and then they say, oh, 628 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: he disappeared, you know, spooky government stuff. You know what 629 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: it's it's an inter instinct theory. It maybe. I mean, 630 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: I can understand if that's true, how that some of 631 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: those facts through retelling. This is like how urban legends 632 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: and urban myths evolved, could have become more and more 633 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: extreme and turned into what we now know is the 634 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Experiment. I think that certainly something along the lines 635 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia experiment has happened. But when it comes 636 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: to this particular case, as you can see, we're kind 637 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: of in a hall of mirrors here, I don't think 638 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: it happened the way that we have heard. But they 639 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: were experimenting with something there and it created that Bizarro effect. 640 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know that I resolved anything for you, 641 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: but I'm also you know, I just have to go 642 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: with what I've heard. And that's a pretty good explanation. 643 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 1: Now let's get back to this question here. How would 644 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: you prove that you were from the past. It's a 645 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: good one. I asked that question too, like I said, 646 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 1: many people over the years, and the only person who 647 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 1: ever gave me an answer that I thought might actually 648 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: work was when I was talking with Tad mcdivott and 649 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: his wife Simone. Now Tad mcdivott has been on this show. 650 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: He is the chief occult researcher for my Haunted Asheville 651 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: tour business, and he has been my top tour guide 652 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: longer than anybody else, for years and years and years. 653 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: He's a master storyteller. And one day I was sitting 654 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: down with him and Simone and I was we got 655 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: off onto this topic, you know, and I said, how 656 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: would you prove that you were from the past? And 657 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 1: Simone says, well, she had read that in nineteen once 658 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: we really started exploding, not only the atomic bombs but 659 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: doing all kinds of atomic testing, that it was so 660 00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: extensive that people who were born after nineteen forty five 661 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: have a more general have a generally higher level of 662 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: radioactive particles in their system than those who were born 663 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,879 Speaker 1: before nineteen and that in this particular case, you might 664 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: be able to determine if somebody was born before nineteen 665 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: forty five, um, by by judging the amount of radioactivity 666 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: and that person's body. Now, look, I have I have 667 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: not spent a lot of time. I've only done a 668 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: cursory search of this, so I'm not sure if if 669 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: that's possible or not. But she brings up a very 670 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 1: good point. Are even if that is not something that 671 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: is necessarily measurable? And again I don't know if it is, 672 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: you let me know. You you you can contact me and 673 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: tell me if there's a source for that. But are 674 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: there other sort of chemical elements of proof that may 675 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: or may not illustrate? Um, if you can tell if 676 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: at if a person was born before a certain time 677 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: like that, I don't know, but I thought that was 678 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: pretty smart. So thank you for that, simone. And um 679 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: now I hand the mystery over to you, my dear audience. 680 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: So let me squeeze in a quick email here from 681 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: a listener. This comes from a Miss Diaz in Colorado. 682 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: She says, just a note to let you know I 683 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: received my miraculous prayer board the other day and I 684 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: am thrilled with it. And this has nothing to do 685 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: and that she's talking about something she got from my 686 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: curiosity shop. She says, this has nothing to do with 687 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: any prayers being answered. I just love the feel of it, 688 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: the subtle electrical resonance of it. I sit and meditate 689 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: with it while listening to your good Fortune tone on 690 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: the show. It feels so pleasant. It's like massaging my brain. 691 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: The combination of the tone and the board is just wonderful. 692 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: I've used a number of me of physical tools in 693 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: the past, and this is both the most straightforward to 694 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 1: use as well as the easiest to handle in shape 695 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: and weight and size. And I'm very, very happy with 696 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: this investment in my spiritual growth. Thank you. And then 697 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: she goes on to ask me something that a number 698 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: of people have asked me over the past week. She says, 699 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: regarding the good Fortune tone, Uh, is there a way 700 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,720 Speaker 1: to find a longer version of the good Fortune tonue? 701 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: Something you know that I could listen to for ten 702 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,439 Speaker 1: twenty thirty minutes, and I'm telling people, yes, you're in luck. 703 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: I have created a longer version of the Good Fortune tone, 704 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,919 Speaker 1: up to thirty minutes long, and if you just sign 705 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: up for my free e newsletter, then you'll get a 706 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: link there to what's called the five Minute Money Miracle Secret. 707 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: And it's got not only this is all free, but 708 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: it's got my e book there and audio book and 709 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: a bunch of tones, and there are different versions of 710 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 1: the Good Fortune Tone. And I love that description. Thank 711 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: you so much, Ms Diaz. I love that description of 712 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: saying it feels like it's massaging my brain. That seems 713 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: very fitting, doesn't it. As we've been talking about residents 714 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: and the Philadelphia experiment, I've been scratching my brain for 715 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: a while, so I think we can all use a 716 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: nice brain massage. So as usual, I'm going to end 717 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: the program with the good Fortune tone. Hey, you know what, 718 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: if you can close your eyes at very least take 719 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 1: a deep breath. Maybe if you have a glass of water, 720 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: you put it next to the speaker, charge it up 721 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: with this tone, and then you know, let us sit 722 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: there for a minute or two and drink it and 723 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: see if you feel any better. All right, here we go. 724 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: Everybody loves this thing. It's becoming very popular. Enjoy the 725 00:51:46,960 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 1: good fortune. Tom. That's it for this edition of the show. 726 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter at Joshua pe Warren, Plus visit 727 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: Joshua pe Warren dot com to sign up for my 728 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: free e newsletter to receive a free instant gift, and 729 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: check out the cool stuff in the Curiosity Shop. 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