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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Morning, everybody, It's DJ Envy, Jesselarioscharla mean the guy. We

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Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in

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Speaker 2: the building, got the brother d One.

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Speaker 3: Welcome Brom d Man. Thank y'all for having me.

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Speaker 2: Man, I didn't know this was your first time up here.

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Speaker 2: I thought for sure you was up here with D One,

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Speaker 2: was up here before you. Serious, Bro, I honestly did.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Well, hey, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: That's a good thing. That means my presence must be

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Speaker 3: getting felt. You hear me even if I wasn't here.

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Speaker 5: You know, because you running the D one so much,

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Speaker 5: so many times back in the day. He's running D

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Speaker 5: one a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know. Want to just be you know, you be out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that you go touching the people. That's that's

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Speaker 6: always been the goal. I've been to your book signers

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Speaker 6: before you hear me. In South Carolina, I just send

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Speaker 6: you backstage at a three C not really working because

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Speaker 6: I never had anything given to me in this industry.

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Speaker 6: So when I stopped being a middle school teacher baging Louisiana,

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Speaker 6: I was like, damn about to be a rapper.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: It was important for me to go out there and

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Speaker 6: make it happen. So how you make it happen you

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Speaker 6: form organic connections.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw you. Know you showed me to twot

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Speaker 5: that saw you when you posted it earlier this week.

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Speaker 5: But when he did decipher back in twenty fourteen, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 5: I just tweeted d One spitting yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because he was. So it's good to see you still

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Speaker 1: ten years later.

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Speaker 6: Bro here organic, bro, longevity is so hard to accomplish.

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Speaker 3: In this industry.

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Speaker 6: So that's one thing I pride myself on is I

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Speaker 6: remember when I was a teacher in Louisiana.

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Speaker 3: I used to be Fredo Bang's middle school teacher.

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Speaker 6: You heard me, like literally, And I remember before I

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Speaker 6: told my class like, look, I'm about to stop teaching

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Speaker 6: after this year to be a rapper.

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Speaker 3: I was like, dang, is.

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Speaker 6: There gonna be longevity in the music industry the way

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Speaker 6: there is if I was to stay being a teacher,

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Speaker 6: And all these years later, I'm still here and still

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Speaker 6: ascending you hear me.

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Speaker 3: So that's God, Bro, That's why I know my path

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Speaker 3: is divine.

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Speaker 6: Nobody could say, well, d you had this person to

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Speaker 6: put you on God orchestrated my blessings bro to where

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Speaker 6: nobody could get the credit it stuff for him from me.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say that was gonna ask you tell

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Speaker 2: you said you're a Fredo Bang's teacher. Did you know

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Speaker 2: when you were teaching him that he was gonna be

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Speaker 2: a rapper he was gonna be a star?

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Speaker 3: Not at all? No, I just knew he was a

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Speaker 3: funny little dude. He was cool.

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Speaker 6: He had a sense of humor, and he was smart,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And he was not to

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Speaker 6: be playing played with. He was serious, you know, he

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Speaker 6: was serious about just demanding his respect.

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Speaker 4: But it was just a cool dude.

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Speaker 5: I did a video with him because you put out album.

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Speaker 1: Called Yes I'm Sad, and like you know, I.

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Speaker 5: Did a video with him encouraging him to go to

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Speaker 5: go to therapy, and then I actually connected him with

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Speaker 5: a therapist. That's that's coming out soon. He actually sat

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Speaker 5: down with a real therapist. And I don't suggest people broadcasted,

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Speaker 5: but if they want to, I'm not mad at it.

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Speaker 3: What if people broadcast going to therapy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, sitting down like the actual session, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: the actual session, didn't.

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Speaker 1: Doing the actual sesson I'm not sure. I'm not really here.

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Speaker 5: I think I did that once for VH one, and

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Speaker 5: I never doing like that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, bro, because it's hard to be transparent, that's right,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, super hard to be I

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Speaker 6: went to therapy.

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Speaker 3: Actually, right after that BT Sipher, I started going to therapy.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 6: I was signed to r c A at the time, right,

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Speaker 6: And you know you're on the BT Sipher, you think

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Speaker 6: in your life about to change after this, Like That's

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Speaker 6: what I was thinking.

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Speaker 3: And nothing changed after that night, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Nothing changed after that night.

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Speaker 6: So I was like, damn man, and I was feeling like,

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Speaker 6: I know I'm the underdog in this industry because you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm on some I'm on some righteous stuff. I'm on

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Speaker 6: some put god first stuff. I come from New Orleans. Like,

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Speaker 6: after that, I felt I blew my shot and it

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Speaker 6: started messing with me with me mentally to where I

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Speaker 6: was like, dang, I kind of don't even want to

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Speaker 6: be here no more.

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Speaker 3: Not in the industry, but on this earth. And when I.

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Speaker 6: Started realizing like that, I'm having suicidal thoughts behind feeling

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Speaker 6: like I'm professionally a failure, I realized I couldn't separate David.

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Speaker 3: From d one at that point, and that was unhealthy,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: And for the first time in life, I went to

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Speaker 6: therapy because I was like talking to my friends that

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Speaker 6: ain't getting it at this point, talking to my grandma

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Speaker 6: rest in peace, that ain't cutting it at this point.

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Speaker 6: So therapy really did help me, but ultimately would helped

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Speaker 6: me even more than therapy was understanding my God given purpose.

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Speaker 3: For like, man, I know who my creator is.

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Speaker 6: I know why I was put here, and I was

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Speaker 6: put here to glorify him. So who am I to

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Speaker 6: think that my whole life is a failure because one

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Speaker 6: moment didn't elevate me professionally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I wondered about that because you know you went you

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Speaker 5: you went to LSU, right, Yeah, I graduated from ls

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Speaker 5: You got kicked off the basketball team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you didn't have those thoughts then.

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Speaker 6: Like, man, No, my freshman year, first, before I got

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Speaker 6: kicked off the basketball team, my girlfriend cheated on me

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Speaker 6: with a couple of football players, he.

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Speaker 4: Said, a couple, not even one.

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Speaker 1: Jesus.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you feel that pain, Yeah, Like I still my

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Speaker 6: heart just jumped when I said it. Ast you to man,

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Speaker 6: that stuff that happened freshman year. Then I got cut

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Speaker 6: from the basketball team. Then my roommates started selling drugs.

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Speaker 1: You heard me.

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Speaker 6: When we got to l s U, we shared a

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Speaker 6: dawn rum. Then one of my best friends in New

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Speaker 6: text message. When I was in English class. I looked

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Speaker 6: down at my phone and my homegirl told me that

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Speaker 6: my boy Ryan had just got murdered.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: All this happened freshman year. So that was the first

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Speaker 6: life changing, like rock altering moment that I had. And

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Speaker 6: during that time I could have found the streets. I

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Speaker 6: could have found a lot of stuff. I found God

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Speaker 6: in a real way, in a real way, like not

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Speaker 3: So we all believe in God, but.

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Speaker 6: Like, no, like I get it, Like I submit everything

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Speaker 6: to you God from this day moving forward.

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Speaker 3: My only role out on trying to be like is Jesus.

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Speaker 3: You heard me?

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Speaker 6: And I started living like that and I started rapping.

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Speaker 6: Rapping was my therapy at that time. So when I

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Speaker 6: started rapping, I had a lot to talk about and

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Speaker 6: I was like, why would I glorify murder when my

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Speaker 6: best friends just got murdered? Why would I glorify smashing

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Speaker 6: your girl when a couple of football players.

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Speaker 3: Just smash my girl.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Why would I glorify a

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Speaker 6: whole bunch of money that I know I ain't got you,

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Speaker 6: feel me? When that that ain't just how I'm living.

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Speaker 6: So from day one, rap was an outlet for me

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Speaker 6: to be able to spit reality. But you got to

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Speaker 6: make that reality charismatic and entertaining. So I just had

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Speaker 6: to get real good and spitting reality. No.

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Speaker 1: I'm from NEWORLEANWI.

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Speaker 3: I went to college in band Ruge, and I taught

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Speaker 3: in band Ruge.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask you. You know they consider you

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Speaker 4: a Christian rapper, right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if they do or not.

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Speaker 2: You know, because the reason is is I feel like

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Speaker 2: they put you in a box. But there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of rappers that preach positivity and don't preach gang, don't

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Speaker 2: preach guns, don't preach violence, and they're not putting that

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Speaker 2: same box.

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Speaker 4: But they seem to put you in that bo.

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Speaker 6: You know why, It's because they smart. The other rappers

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Speaker 6: they crafty. I ain't gonna say it's smart.

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Speaker 3: They crafty.

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Speaker 6: Though they had a positive message, but then they'll sprinkle

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Speaker 6: in some but I smash your girl, you know what

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Speaker 6: I mean, Or like my partners will come to spin.

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Speaker 3: A bend and and and and and and and murk

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Speaker 3: you you know what I mean. They're they'll slide a

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Speaker 3: little bit of that in there.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that's I don't think me put

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Speaker 3: the candy in the medicine.

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Speaker 1: No, put the medicine in the candy.

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Speaker 6: Put the medicine in the candy. Yeah, so they and

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Speaker 6: I don't think that that's I don't think that that's

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Speaker 6: wise because I's just like that kind of comes across lukewarm,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So with me, it's one of.

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Speaker 6: The things where I was like, if I got to

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Speaker 6: sacrifice a little bit of professional like growth in order

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Speaker 6: to say I'm gonna be uncompromising about my message, I'm

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Speaker 6: down for it because wherever I get, that's where I

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Speaker 6: was meant to be in God's eyes. You know a

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Speaker 6: lot of people got selfish ambition, and that's different from

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Speaker 6: godly ambition. What godly ambition is God, I just wanna

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Speaker 6: make you proud, And wherever that lamb me at, I'm content.

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Speaker 6: Selfish ambition is the world telling me to chase being

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Speaker 6: I need to be rocking. That's selfish ambition that had

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Speaker 6: you chasing or moving target for your whole life. And

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Speaker 6: I never fell victim to that because around the time

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Speaker 6: I was starting to get materialistic, I went to Ghano

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Speaker 6: when I was thirteen years old.

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Speaker 3: I saw real poverty. I thought I grew up in

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Speaker 3: the hood till I went to Ghana. You feel me.

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Speaker 6: I came back. Man, I'm not tripping on jibo jeans

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Speaker 6: no more. I'm not tripping on you know, having a Yeah,

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Speaker 6: have this jewelry and be like the hot boys or whatever. Man,

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Speaker 6: I just seen people who they joy is their weapon,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. I don't need to carry

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Speaker 6: no gun. My joy is my weapon moving forward. I

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Speaker 6: want my smile to light the room up when I

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Speaker 6: come in there. That's what I've been on for a

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Speaker 6: long time. So you apply that to the rap game,

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Speaker 6: and people gonna be like, oh, he different, and because

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Speaker 6: he different and he he loved God.

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Speaker 3: He a Christian rapper, You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: If that's what people call me cool, but a lot

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Speaker 6: of people they're just like nah, bro, he's a college professor,

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Speaker 6: he's a Harvard University fellow, he's a dope rapper, he's

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Speaker 6: an activist, he's you know, he's a bunch of things.

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Speaker 6: I used to bullet when I was in kindergarten, you know,

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Speaker 6: The way I overcame my bully is I found my

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Speaker 6: for the purpose God designed it for, You're going to

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Speaker 1: I love that, you know.

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Speaker 5: You know, when Biggie said, I'm black and ugly as ever, however,

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Speaker 1: All of us have it.

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Speaker 6: However, all of us got a how all of us

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Speaker 6: thank you, bro, And that's I just want hip hop

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Speaker 6: Rapping is what got me here. I'm on the breakfast

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Speaker 6: and if you're making music, it shouldn't have to glorify murder.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: And I'm just trying to show people that I'm a

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Speaker 1: Do you want to just a liars?

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Speaker 3: You can have a hug. Now you got a book

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: You were very vocal about rappers using their platform. You

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Speaker 2: And all those brothers in their music have uplifting songs

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Speaker 2: and positive songs. It's not just all about bang bang

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Speaker 6: I just feel like we got a lot of selective

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Speaker 6: one time, all it take is one time for them

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Speaker 3: We at the top, we on their head.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, you say, damn world, we're trying to cancel you.

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Speaker 6: We'll never let you forget that. But if artists, if

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Speaker 6: it's like yo, where they rap about murdering people, you know,

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Speaker 6: in fifty percent of their songs, but in the other

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Speaker 3: Shouldn't that be okay? We're content with a state of

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Speaker 6: That's something that I'm just like, Yo, that's confusing. That's

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Speaker 3: You feel me.

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Speaker 6: I'm a college professor currently in addition to being a rapper, Like,

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Speaker 6: I'm seeing that these kids who ain't from the trenches

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Speaker 3: And that's because that's what's getting pushed. And I'm just

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Speaker 6: Artists like, bro, we know, like we made it from

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Speaker 6: a difference between narration and glorification. You feel me when

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Speaker 6: I've seen this. My best friend got killed. Glorification is Look,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be the one to come when I get

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Speaker 3: A bag to go and get you dead. You know

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Speaker 6: We are content with the glorification of drug dealing and

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Speaker 3: And that's a problem, bro, is it not?

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Speaker 1: It's it's definitely a problem.

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Speaker 5: What if we switched our our mindset about how we

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Speaker 5: look at the music?

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Speaker 1: Is just entertainment, the same way we look at movies.

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Speaker 1: You you TV?

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Speaker 3: You being serious right now? Are you just playing devils?

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Speaker 5: Because these people, all these people are in character. It's

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Speaker 1: They're all in character. We do it in movies and

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Speaker 5: We know it's not real, and they glorified even worse

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Speaker 7: I think, I, yeah, you're playing you get your budd

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Speaker 7: and I get what you're saying that it's an influence.

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Speaker 4: But we know these are rappers. Ain't killing nobody.

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Speaker 1: No, we don't know that.

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Speaker 2: They're not running around shooting nobody majority of them, Bro,

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Speaker 2: are you serious?

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Speaker 1: They are heavy?

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Speaker 3: Listen, listen you listen, Bro. I just watched y'all show

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Speaker 3: First of all, I just watched the show when y'all

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Speaker 6: Here, the young brother with Fred not not not the

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Speaker 6: y'all you was like, yo, French smashing of the rappers.

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Speaker 1: Wise.

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Speaker 6: French was like, nah, that's rap, cap, I'm just saying that.

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Speaker 6: The young brother was like, man, I make drill rap,

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Speaker 6: Like what you mean if we ain't living it, like, shoot,

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Speaker 6: that's lame. We gotta be living Scheana.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: They're telling you that, Bro, They're telling you like, no,

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Speaker 6: this ain't just fiction rap like this is non fiction.

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Speaker 6: Rappers implied to this auto biographical, and you're telling your

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Speaker 3: You heard me.

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Speaker 6: D one is just a stage name. It's not a character.

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Speaker 6: It's extension of who David Augerstein is. That's what rap is, bro.

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Speaker 6: I could remember my favorite rap lyrics from The Hot

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Speaker 3: I can't. I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't walk around quoting my favorite movies from twenty

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Speaker 3: But I could wrap you any Lil Wayne lyrics from

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Speaker 5: I definitely got me a thirty eight snub nose because

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Speaker 5: I've definitely been a I can't see that goa haven't

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Speaker 6: You get mold though, that we are way more influenced

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Speaker 6: I'm saying is we all massively successful. Who's sitting here

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Speaker 6: Like I feel called to not make the next generation

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Speaker 5: I wonder if you can narrate without glorifying. I don't

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Speaker 5: the jay Z. Jay Z has always been a narrator.

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Speaker 5: He's always told you the good, the bad, the ugly,

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Speaker 5: I mean he narrates it, you know, like I can't.

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Speaker 5: It's just to me.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the.

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Speaker 4: Nas talks about it, and a lot of it, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Nias talks about a lot of the life that he

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, now's my favorite rapper. I'm saying like nas

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Speaker 6: Like he clearly smart, but he's seen a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: He's been through a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 6: Glorifying something is just simply saying, Bro, how many records

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Speaker 6: at the top of these playlists nowadays? How many records

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Speaker 6: are glorifying I'm gonna spin on my apps.

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Speaker 3: I'm spinning the being, I'm sliding on you. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: That's glorification, bro. Narration is saying, Yo, I've seen this

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Speaker 6: stuff in my past. This happened to my best friend,

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Speaker 6: Da Da Da Da da man one of my students

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Speaker 3: My students who I used to teach this is real life.

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Speaker 6: If I'm narrating that, I'm still talking about murder, but

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Speaker 3: Like that's to be replicated and duplicated. You feel me.

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Speaker 5: I wonder about people's environments too, though, because I feel

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, so that's where as OG's and hip hop

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Speaker 3: You was chosen. You hear me.

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Speaker 6: If you're an artist and you got a huge platform,

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Speaker 6: you know what our responsibility is.

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Speaker 6: The role of the artist is to make the revolution irresistible.

442
00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,400
Speaker 6: That means you can take something. You could take concrete

443
00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,359
Speaker 6: and you could be the roles that grew from it

444
00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,560
Speaker 6: and have everybody looking like how did you do that?

445
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,960
Speaker 3: And it's like I'm gonna show yall. I'm gonna y

446
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,920
Speaker 3: all the blueprint we chosen. Yo. You know how many

447
00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,040
Speaker 3: people wrapped in this world, but they're not here right now.

448
00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:32,840
Speaker 3: I clearly was chosen.

449
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,879
Speaker 6: It's bigger than me. I could spit with the best them.

450
00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,159
Speaker 6: I'm better than ninety five percent of the rappers in

451
00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,879
Speaker 6: this world. I know that you know what I'm saying.

452
00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,680
Speaker 6: But with that being said, it's still takes more than

453
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,880
Speaker 6: just talent. So I was chosen. So it's like, dangn

454
00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,919
Speaker 6: since I made it, what's my responsibility. It's not to

455
00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,800
Speaker 6: keep feeding lies to people.

456
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:49,399
Speaker 3: I didn't have.

457
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,160
Speaker 6: Rappers had these type of convoys with me outside the booth,

458
00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 6: and then the engineer'll be like, all right, the beat

459
00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,359
Speaker 6: is ready, and they leave from their chair. They go

460
00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,440
Speaker 6: hop in the boot and they gonna kill faulty people

461
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:00,800
Speaker 6: in their song.

462
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,919
Speaker 2: But some of but some of your favorite rappers do

463
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,560
Speaker 2: the same, Like you're talking about Lil Wayne, Lila.

464
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,439
Speaker 4: Wayne has has said it, Jay has said it.

465
00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,359
Speaker 3: Now, that's not that's what.

466
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,159
Speaker 2: There's also a lot of rappers that are doing it.

467
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 2: On the positive side, you got your chance to rappers.

468
00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,000
Speaker 2: You got your j Coles, you got your Kendrick.

469
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 1: Even the new ones. I love the Russell you got,

470
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,879
Speaker 1: I love rahaps you got Kendrick. I give what you.

471
00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,280
Speaker 1: I feel like the last ten years of hip hop,

472
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Speaker 1: at least.

473
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,000
Speaker 5: The guys that were really really on top, with the

474
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,000
Speaker 5: exception of Maybe Future, they are nothing like the artists

475
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 5: we grew up on, like J Cole, Kendrick Drag.

476
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,280
Speaker 1: They're nothing like we grew up on.

477
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,800
Speaker 5: Some cbfore the envy was putting guns in his manolo

478
00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:38,720
Speaker 5: blocks because.

479
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 1: Rappers was talking about it. But whatever what I'm saying,

480
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,640
Speaker 1: we grew up in the area.

481
00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,639
Speaker 5: You had to be hardcore, you had to be just

482
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,960
Speaker 5: to survive facts.

483
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,840
Speaker 3: You know, Well, think about it like this.

484
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,440
Speaker 6: We can name all of the artists who y'all saying

485
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 6: got a message nay music, probably on two hands.

486
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,600
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, there's whole.

487
00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 6: Genres of rap, trap, rap, drill rap a genre because

488
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 6: system like one hundreds of artists, they got a whole

489
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 6: genres that dedicated to the murder music at this point,

490
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,960
Speaker 6: they got a whole genres just dedicated to the negativity

491
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 6: being glorified.

492
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

493
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 6: Unfortunately with our young queens, our women, what's being rapped

494
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,919
Speaker 6: about vagina booty, you know what I'm saying, just the

495
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 6: power of what was between the lead.

496
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,439
Speaker 4: Though. Yeah, but how do you change that? Because you know,

497
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,480
Speaker 4: how do you change that?

498
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,439
Speaker 2: Because I heard you said in the interview it's like,

499
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 2: you know a lot of these rappers you feel are

500
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 2: serving two masters, right, yeah, the man upstairs and then

501
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 2: or the man and woman upstairs, and then also the money.

502
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,159
Speaker 4: So how do you change that?

503
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 6: You gotta pick one. And who created you? Did money

504
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 6: create you? Or did God create you? God created you?

505
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,399
Speaker 3: So that's what you're.

506
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 6: Supposed to be serving. Don't become a slave to a

507
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 6: green piece of paper. Shout out to my brother Styles

508
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 6: p Man, that's a song of his. I lived my

509
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 6: whole life for a green piece of paper, you know

510
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 6: what I mean. I'm like, dang that that song hit

511
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 6: me back when I was in school because I was like, dang,

512
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 6: I don't want to live my whole life for a

513
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,199
Speaker 6: green piece of paper that could be torn up and

514
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 6: then once you teed it up, it has no value.

515
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.

516
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 4: Man, You don't think that.

517
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: You know.

518
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 4: People have to evolve. They have to they have to

519
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 4: see it in themselves.

520
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 2: Like we've seen j Evol, We've seen Styles p Evol,

521
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 2: some of these people stabbing Styles was like.

522
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: Jesus put it. But I always tell you Block that

523
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 1: I loved Block. I love their growth and the evolution.

524
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 5: But growing up, when I used to listen to d

525
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 5: block music, I used to want to stab somebody with

526
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 5: something sharp.

527
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 4: You just said it, didn't you. At Queen's Bridge on

528
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 4: the side of his head when he had hair Oh.

529
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 5: Wow, I want you to I don't disagree with nothing

530
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 5: you're saying. The only thing I want is that I

531
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 5: don't like when you say what you say and then

532
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 5: people take it away and then they want to get violent.

533
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, how can you.

534
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying? I want people to hear you,

535
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: but you're not wrong.

536
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't have any beef with any artists.

537
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 6: By the way, like I'm.

538
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 3: Full of love.

539
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 6: I hope y'all could feel that radiating from me. I'm

540
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 6: also knowing that, like man, time is ticking. Man, we

541
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 6: all got an expiration date and we don't know when

542
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 6: it is. When I was in college, Jeremy and I

543
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 6: had three dudes walk up on me out the blue.

544
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 6: I was playing one on one basketball with my boy

545
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,959
Speaker 6: and these dudes walked up.

546
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 3: They thought we had broken their homeboy's car. You heard me.

547
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 6: So they was like, man, y'all broken out pot and

548
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 6: the car. We was like, nah, not at all. They

549
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 6: was like, man, y'all lying. One of the dudes pulled

550
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 6: a gun out. Dude got a gun right here on

551
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 6: my temple.

552
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?

553
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 6: Real quick, I got my hands up like this, I'm like, damn, bro,

554
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 6: I never thought I'd died as same way. My best

555
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 6: friend just got killed a couple years ago. I thought

556
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 6: my life was over right there, by the grace of God.

557
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 6: The girl was walking to her apartment. She looked down

558
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 6: at the basketball court. She was like like, oh my god,

559
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And they looked up and

560
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 6: they got spooks, so they put the gun up. They

561
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 6: ran right in that moment, I was like, oh, shoot,

562
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 6: I'm sure it's an impact over income.

563
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

564
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 6: Because if I'd have died in that moment, all the

565
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 6: money that I had, that money couldn't have did nothing,

566
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 6: but the impact that I left in this world, that

567
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 6: impact would be here forever, even after my life was gone.

568
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 6: So that's when I was like, I'm not gonna be

569
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 6: I was a business major, you feel me. I used

570
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 6: to intern for Jimmy Hinchman up here in New York

571
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 6: when I was in college. I was gonna work in

572
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 6: corporate America. Man.

573
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: I was like, forget that, I'm gonna be a teacher.

574
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: I became a middle school teacher.

575
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 6: When I was a middle school teacher, one of my

576
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 6: students came in class one day with Mob tatted on

577
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 6: his arm, the same with CHARLOA man had QB tatted

578
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 6: on his head. Right, my student came in with MOB

579
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 6: on his arm. I said, Bro, what made you get

580
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 6: that tattooed?

581
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: You know what that stand for?

582
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: Right?

583
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: Money over?

584
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 6: He was like, no, sir, I don't know what that means.

585
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 6: And I was like, then why did you get it?

586
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 6: Because his favorite rapper, Lil Wayne has a tattooed.

587
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 3: On his chest.

588
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 6: The influence when I saw that from Pop huh Wayne

589
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 6: and Wayne probably got that from pot Bro. That made

590
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 6: me want to be a rapper. And I was like,

591
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 6: I want to be a rapper because of the influence

592
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 6: that I see the rappers are having. Man, that's it, Bro,

593
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 6: so been in this game. Just dropped my eleventh album,

594
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 6: From the Hood to Harvard. From the Hood to Harvard, talk.

595
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 5: To me about working with Jimmy Hinton. I'm gonna ask

596
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 5: you about that, Like, just walk walk me through that experience. Well,

597
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 5: I needed to graduate.

598
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 6: I was a marketing major, so I had to have

599
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 6: an internship under my belt.

600
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: And at the time I was like, dang, he was

601
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: managing the game.

602
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 6: I feel like he had Rick Ross, he had a

603
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 6: Gucci man you know what I'm saying. He had a brandy,

604
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 6: he had a few different people, and I was like, dang,

605
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 6: this is crazy.

606
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: It'd be amazing to work for him.

607
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: Bro.

608
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 6: I just called the number of his office and shout

609
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 6: out to my sister Lashina, you heard me.

610
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: She was working the front desk at the time. She

611
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: answered the phone and she was like, Hey, how you doing.

612
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 6: I was like, look, I'm a college student trying to

613
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 6: get an internship, and I sent my resume over they

614
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 6: hire me just like that. I didn't get paid. I

615
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 6: ain't get paid, but I was up here in New York.

616
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 6: I was living in the Bronx that summer and intern

617
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 6: with him. I was on the Games Street Team. So

618
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 6: years later, the game was on my last album I

619
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 6: just dropped a few months ago. So to go from

620
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 6: interning and working on the Games Street Team to him

621
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 6: being a collaborator on my album, that's like a full

622
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 6: circle moment, bro. But it showed me that summer. It

623
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 6: showed me that I don't want to be in this

624
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 6: industry unless I could be an artist, because I I've

625
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 6: seen a lot of people who was pushing music that

626
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 6: after they finished promoting the music, they would look at

627
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 6: me and say, man, I don't even want my own

628
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 6: kids listening to that music.

629
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 3: But this is just my job.

630
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 6: I was like, ooh, I wouldn't want to have to

631
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 6: live my life like that. You got to push something

632
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 6: that you don't even really stand behind because it's your job.

633
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 6: I was like, the only way I'd be in this

634
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 6: game is if I could be an artist, because I

635
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 6: could control my narrative.

636
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 5: How many times you got called Poppy in the Bronx,

637
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 5: I know they confused you for space They.

638
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 6: Did, yeah, and I was like, bro, I'm black, Bro,

639
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 6: I'm from New Orleans, Jeremy.

640
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: As soon as I said you heard me, they was like.

641
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 8: Oh here and from here.

642
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: When did you first realize you were using your gifts

643
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 5: for their intended purpose?

644
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 6: Well, the first time I did a show, it was

645
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 6: a it was a talent show at LSU and I

646
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 6: miss a Phoenix Shakur was at my school right Tupac's mind.

647
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 6: And when I got off stage, I didn't win first place,

648
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 6: second place, or third place in that talent show, but

649
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 6: when I got off stage, she was like, young brother,

650
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 6: your passion on that microphone when I see you perform,

651
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 6: reminds me of my son, and when she told me that,

652
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, I got something special, Like even

653
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 6: if people not recognizing it in the moment, I got

654
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 6: something special. Tupac Mama just told me this, you feel me.

655
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 6: And at that point I was like, all, I know,

656
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 6: if I use this for the purpose it was designed for,

657
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 6: it could be life changing.

658
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: Bro.

659
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 6: I got letters in my pocket, bro, from students who

660
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 6: like when I visit these middle schools and these high schools,

661
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 6: they write me letters about like how much my music

662
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 6: has inspired them and they wanting to be like me.

663
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 6: They writing raps and they're giving this to me when

664
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 6: I come to their school, Like I see this. You know,

665
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 6: I'm speaking at a school. By the time I get

666
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 6: off stage, the little girl and like drew a picture

667
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 6: of me. You know what I'm saying, Like this is powerful, yo,

668
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 6: Like this is organic stuff that I experienced on a

669
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 6: daily basis. So I'm like, who would I be to

670
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 6: have a water down message when I know that this

671
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 6: message could be life changing for people in a good

672
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 6: all bad way.

673
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: And you're a professor, right, yeah, and talks university.

674
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 5: And you teach students about the intersection of hip hop

675
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 5: and social change.

676
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, that yeah, So my course that I designed,

677
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 6: it's all about how hip hop has been used to

678
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 6: make social change in the past and how we can

679
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 6: use it to make social change moving forward, because unfortunately,

680
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 6: it's kind of veered in the direction of Yo, I'm

681
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 6: just trying to get the bag. I ain't even a rapper.

682
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 6: I'm just a game spinner. I'm just a hustler. You know,

683
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 6: it's kind of veered in that direction. So people now

684
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 6: focused on making change via hip hop right, And I'm

685
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 6: just saying, yo, as a class, we're going to learn

686
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 6: how different artists have been able to use their platform

687
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 6: to really make real change. I was on tour with

688
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 6: Macklemore when the thrift Shop song came out, doing a

689
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 6: nationwide tour with him.

690
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: I saw the change.

691
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 6: That they were making, even in the LGBTQ community when

692
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 6: they had the same love song. I saw all of

693
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 6: the legislation that they were a part of, and how

694
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 6: they had people getting married at the shows and all this.

695
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm seeing real social change be made via

696
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: hip hop.

697
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 6: I done seen the impact that l fox ones then

698
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 6: had on the whole you know, a whole country make people.

699
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: So we just study about that stuff.

700
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 6: In my class, Bro, And I'm empowering my class to

701
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 6: want to make music but also consume music that's gonna

702
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 6: make change, because why are you consumer music that's glorified?

703
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 6: Like one assignment I had for my class was to

704
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 6: write Kodak Black a letter while he was in jail.

705
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: Just now.

706
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 6: Kodak just got out last week and me and Kodak

707
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 6: are cool. So we were dming yesterday and Kodak hit

708
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 6: me like, yo, I got all them letters from you

709
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 6: and your class. He was like, that stuff really inspired me.

710
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 6: Thank you, bro, y'all snapped. I want to come and

711
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 6: visit your class.

712
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 5: Kodak is a perfect I'll go ask you to what

713
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 5: strategies do you use? So I want to get back

714
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 5: to Koda. But other than like writing letters to Kodak,

715
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 5: like what other things have you done?

716
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? So my class is actually creating an album, you

717
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

718
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 6: My class is creating an album because I want to

719
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 6: show them how hard it is to create hip hop

720
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 6: and actually make it make social change. Because nowadays, if

721
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 6: you want to have a message in your music, you

722
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 6: automatically the underdog. But I love that my students could

723
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 6: be like, wait, Professor d one is dropping music is

724
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 6: on the freaking breakfast club.

725
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: Like it's possible, you.

726
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

727
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 6: Totally independent, one hundred percent independent. They see that as possible.

728
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 6: But I want them to see the things that they

729
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 6: didn't see, which is me and you connecting ten years ago,

730
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 6: Me and you connected almost ten years ago, y'all seeing

731
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 6: me grinding. I'm making my class do this as they

732
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 6: create an album, because making the music is the easy part.

733
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 6: But make the music connect with people, you know what

734
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 6: I mean. So I'm showing them with a little a

735
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 6: little tough love, you know that, Like, we're gonna learn

736
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 6: about artists who have done it successfully. We're gonna learn

737
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 6: about artists who are on the right path, but then

738
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 6: they let the bag get in their way and they

739
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 6: changed their message along the way, and then we're gonna

740
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 6: learn how to do it as an artist.

741
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: Can't you be multi faceted? Though?

742
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: Can't you be Can't you glorify killing and want to

743
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: save the world? No?

744
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: No, But maybe can you be a social justice advocate

745
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 5: and just be a street rapper from Philly talking about

746
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 5: your experience?

747
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: You can definitely be.

748
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 6: And by the way, but I hope that you know,

749
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 6: I hope that's not still out in the air that

750
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 6: d one has an issue with Meek may Or, Jim

751
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 6: Jones and Rick Ross.

752
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: I hope that's not.

753
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 1: Well, you were specifics. That was the other thing too.

754
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 5: I think that if you weren't specific and you just

755
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 5: were talking about I think the message would have been

756
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 5: received a little bit better. Because when whenever you, you know,

757
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 5: address somebody as an individual, they're going to take your personal.

758
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 6: Gotcha, it just are And and that wasn't my intention

759
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 6: for anybody to take that personal because I literally, like,

760
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 6: I love other brothers in a real sencere way, bro

761
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 6: to say, just know, Oh, I'm just saying that, dad,

762
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 6: I know, in.

763
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: A real way.

764
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 6: But when you use examples to make your point, if

765
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 6: somebody say, man, people in the NBA need to conduct

766
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 6: themselves better off the court, that's super vague. When you say, man,

767
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 6: John mort need to stop, you know, flashing guns in

768
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 6: his videos.

769
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: Oh that's a real example, all right. Cool?

770
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: Have you spoke to those brothers after man?

771
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: Me and Jim have text each other and it was

772
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: all love via text.

773
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 6: I hope to link up with Jim while I'm out

774
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 6: here in New York in person, like that'll be love.

775
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: That's gonna be the next.

776
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: That conversation happening on text. You hit hear me hit.

777
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 6: You No a mutual contact. My brother Antonio and my

778
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 6: brother Shabbaz the o G. They they they linked us

779
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 6: via text, right, and then I sent them a video

780
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 6: one day.

781
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: Man.

782
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 6: I woke up one day and I was like, man,

783
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 6: all of this middle man and stuff and group text.

784
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 6: I sent them a personal video speaking from the heart

785
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 6: for a minute. Jim, this d one brother da da da,

786
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 6: This was my heart, this was my intentions, this is

787
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 6: my background. Da da da put that out that to him.

788
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 6: That brother hit me back in five minutes. I appreciate

789
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 6: you reaching out.

790
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: This means a lot. I respect what you stand for.

791
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 6: You know, we should have a conversation, he said, because

792
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 6: I realized sometimes in life people are trying to get

793
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 6: to the same destination, but they just taking two different routes.

794
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 6: I respect the heck out of that. So we haven't

795
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 6: met in person yet. We haven't verbally talked, but we

796
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 6: text with Meek and Ross. I haven't communicated with them directly.

797
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 6: I know people who know all of them, you know,

798
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 6: so I would love for the link to be made

799
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 6: just so they know like, Bro, this ain't no. I

800
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 6: just want us to be the best version of ourselves, man,

801
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 6: because it confuses the kids if we are giving turkeys away,

802
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 6: giving toys away, giving shoes away, advocating for social justice reform.

803
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: And glorifying the opposite type of message in our music.

804
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: And that's all I'm saying.

805
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: You know, is it ever appropriate to use unconventional means

806
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 5: to achieve righteous righteous sense?

807
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: It depends on what those unconventional means are. Bro, that's it.

808
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 6: Like I wouldn't get up here right now and disrespect

809
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 6: any of y'all.

810
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: Physically or verbally to say, hey, the goal was to

811
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: go viral.

812
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: The niggas will a lot of to go virus.

813
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 6: N Like, I don't think that that's That's just not

814
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: how I'm cut. I'm not that thirsty for validation or

815
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 6: for fame. Like I actually been famous for a long time,

816
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, I haven't. I haven't taught

817
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 6: since I was Fredo's teacher, you know what I'm saying.

818
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 6: That's like over a decade ago, brother, Like, Like, I'm good.

819
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 6: I'm in a great space mentally, physically, financially, all that stuff.

820
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 6: So for me, it's like the slow grind to continue.

821
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 6: Rising might not come along with the antics, but it

822
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 6: comes along with integrity. It's making God proud, it's making

823
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 6: my grandparents, my parents proud, and it's giving people a blueprint.

824
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 6: You know that that viral stuff. Man, you'll be here

825
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 6: today and gone tomorrow.

826
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: Can you talk about being in this world but not

827
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: of this world? I know on the song line drawn

828
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 5: on the entry.

829
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 6: You say that, Yeah, so lines drawn is me saying, like, yo,

830
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 6: this whole industry has become content with the state of

831
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 6: luke warming this bro like we cool with a this song,

832
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 6: we popping my lists, we popping pills, we selling dope,

833
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 6: this song, we're doing something positive and we're cool with

834
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 6: consuming it all. That's why other communities don't take us serious.

835
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 6: You can't play with gay people like that. You can't

836
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 6: play with jewels like that because they don't play with

837
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 6: themselves like that. But when they see us disrespecting ourselves,

838
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 6: they're like, man, the black people, they're not tripping man

839
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 6: like it is what it is. They glorify killing themselves.

840
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 6: Who cares if we disrespect them?

841
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: You know? With that being said, does everybody in here

842
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: believe in God?

843
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 6: Of course percent If we all can say that, then

844
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 6: that should make it way easier to understand my why

845
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 6: why I do what I do. It's because I don't

846
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 6: I don't serve my fans. I don't serve the industry,

847
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 6: I don't serve Instagram. I serve God. And I'm simply

848
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 6: using my music as a vehicle to reach people.

849
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: But I'm not serving the people.

850
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 6: So if we all look at what our slingshot is

851
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 6: and what our gifts are and say, how can I

852
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 6: use this gift to be of service to God, automatically

853
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 6: it'll be like, Oh, there's no way that I can

854
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 6: justify glorifying killing and glorifying just a bunch of negativity

855
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 6: to say that, Well, I'm trying to make money, so

856
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 6: that's going to justify it at the end of the day.

857
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: There's no way. So I say it.

858
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 6: I'm drawing lines and I'm saying what side of the

859
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 6: line are you on? Do you want to represent righteousness

860
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 6: or you want to represent evil? And drawing that line

861
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 6: in the sand.

862
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: That's made a.

863
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 6: Lot of people on hip hop uncomfortable because now it's like, oh,

864
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 6: I got to pick a side. I was comfortable in

865
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 6: the middle. I ain't want to have to pick a side.

866
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 6: We was all comfortable in the middle. Actually, man, I'm

867
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 6: just drawing a line, that's all. And that's why I

868
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 6: put that song out. That's the first song on my album,

869
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 6: and that song shaking things up?

870
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: You heard me?

871
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 8: How often do you get a student that still just

872
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 8: goes against the ground, you know what I mean? Like,

873
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 8: you know, because everybody's not gonna go yeah, everybody's not

874
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 8: gonna do the same thing, you know. I know you

875
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 8: help a lot of students. I can definitely tell that

876
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 8: you help a lot of a lot of kids, But like,

877
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 8: how many how often do you get the ones that's

878
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 8: like nah?

879
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: Every day? I got students in the graveyard right now.

880
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: Want to listen. They're resting in peace, like literally literally, Man,

881
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 3: that stuff tough.

882
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: Man.

883
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 6: One of my students, g Money. He was a popular

884
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 6: rapper and band ruge. You know, he got murdered a

885
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 6: few years ago. That was Fredo Band's rapping partner. It

886
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 6: was in the group together. Man, he got murdered. Man,

887
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 6: I was talking to him two days before he got murdered.

888
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: He was involved in.

889
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 6: Some beef down there in Louisiana and I wanted him

890
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 6: to come with me to a show. I had in

891
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 6: Memphis at the time, but he adn't asked his phone

892
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 6: when I hit him up, and I didn't want to

893
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 6: seem like I was bothering him, right, but I was like, man,

894
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 6: get out the city. Man, come with me for the weekend.

895
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 6: Let me just pour into you, bro. And he ain't

896
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 6: come with me to that show. He got murdered before

897
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 6: I could make it back home. I mean, but I

898
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 6: knew that. It's like you involved in this beef, but

899
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 6: it's because you're getting caught up in wanting to play

900
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 6: this role of who G Money is instead of the

901
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 6: young brother that I know Garret Burton is, you know.

902
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 6: And I just seen hip hop make people do that. Man,

903
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 6: Like I got adrenaline running through me right now. Man,

904
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 6: I'm on the breakfast club. It's gonna make people like

905
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: want to amplify something inside of them. Thankfully though, because

906
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 6: I know I'm serving God. I'm like, amplify the righteousness

907
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 6: in U. D like, don't amplify because I got darkness

908
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 6: in me too. I got wretchedness, I got craziness. I

909
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 6: got evil in me as well.

910
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: We all do.

911
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 6: But I don't want to amplify that part. I try

912
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 6: to suppress that part as much as possible. But man,

913
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 6: I see people make the wrong decisions every day, and

914
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 6: I just try to I try to still be here

915
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 6: for we gotta still have grace with people.

916
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: You feel me, And.

917
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: What could you tell?

918
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 8: Like my black son, he's eleven years old, right, And

919
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 8: what I noticed about him is, you know, he lives

920
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 8: between me, my mother, and his father. So that's three

921
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 8: different households, you know, because what I doing, what his

922
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 8: dad does.

923
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: You know, I'm always on the road.

924
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 8: I live in New Jersey now he's between here and

925
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 8: Baltimore and then his dad. Total different household. He has

926
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 8: siblings there. I don't have other children yet. I'm pregnant

927
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 8: right now. But it's a different it's different household, so

928
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 8: it's different things that I don't allow him to do

929
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 8: that his dad may allow him to do that my

930
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 8: mom don't. So he's he's listening in the gospel when

931
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 8: he was herd but down when he that's not what

932
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 8: he wanted to listen to.

933
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 4: He's listening to NB a young.

934
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: Boy in school and stuff like that.

935
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 8: And I notice a mood change, you know, not to

936
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 8: you know, shut on and be a young boy or

937
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 8: anything like that, because he has things that he's going

938
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 8: through as well, and he makes that very known. But

939
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 8: my son's mood will change, He'll he'll get like down

940
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 8: a little bit, you know what I'm saying. But he

941
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 8: loves to listen to him right now, I listen to

942
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 8: all types of things.

943
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: I don't have him listen to.

944
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 8: My son know Marvin Gay songs, he knows Anita Baker

945
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 8: like he knows so many different because it's different.

946
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: I listen to rap.

947
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 8: I listen from everything to rap, rhythm and blues rock.

948
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: All of that.

949
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 8: But I notice how it's a change.

950
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: It is.

951
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 8: It's a mood, and influence from music is very impactful

952
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 8: because my son just goes into a different mood when

953
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 8: he listens to like Juice World an NBA young Boy,

954
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 8: and I'm.

955
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: Like, why are you listening to that?

956
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 5: You're like, I like it.

957
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 8: I'm like, can you understand what they're saying?

958
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: No, not like that, not like that.

959
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 8: But he understands some of that stuff and he puts

960
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 8: them in a different mood.

961
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 3: You get it literally changes your mood.

962
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: You know.

963
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 6: It's life and death in the power of the tongue.

964
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 6: That's Proverbs eighteen and twenty one. It don't say, life

965
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 6: and death in the power of the beat.

966
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: You heard me.

967
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 6: The beat could change your mood or your frequency, but

968
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 6: life and death is in the power of those lyrics.

969
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 6: So that's why it's like, we all say we believe

970
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 6: in God, so we can't ignore that scripture that's real.

971
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 6: So that's why I'm like, bro, I don't even want

972
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 6: to play about something that could have life and death implications.

973
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: You feel me, and that's just real, yo.

974
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 6: So now it's like, instead of just being the person

975
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 6: that's anti it is anti dead, I gotta be just

976
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 6: as dope, but in a different lane. So that's why

977
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 6: I gotta beat it to counter act the murder music

978
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 6: with stuff like I don't care if you know me,

979
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 6: you're about to respect high step.

980
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 3: Why would you think I'd.

981
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: Ever fear you.

982
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: I don't even fear death. A scare of boy. Need

983
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: a gun like bad breath? Need a gun? Yeah, your

984
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: teeth clean, But I know the power of the tongue.

985
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 3: I'm a man of God.

986
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 6: I ain't superstitious from New Orleans, where Birdman quotes get

987
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 6: treated like Bible scriptures. But me, I ain't the type

988
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 6: to brag about without in bolt. I make silent moves,

989
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 6: but I get loud results. If d one talk about

990
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 6: his pain, you gonna really relate. Do you want to

991
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 6: talk about his paper?

992
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: You gonna know that his street.

993
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 6: Do you want rap on top of your beat? You

994
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 6: gonna know that he ate d You wanta rap on

995
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 6: top of your beat? You gonna know that he ate you?

996
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 6: Bragging about with you then been through Potner. We survivors too,

997
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 6: and you calling boys your brothers. But which one's gonna

998
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 6: rhyme for you? Ain't no g cod, no more boi.

999
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 6: The streets then lie to you. That's why I be

1000
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 6: in my bag, but I be in my bible tool.

1001
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 6: They don't like me, but they know they can't deny me. Man,

1002
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 6: I'm a real gangster, and they no right where to

1003
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 6: find me. G A n g st A. Do not

1004
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 6: try me growing their nurturing. If serving the almighty, keep

1005
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 6: up a lot of people feel how I be feeling,

1006
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 6: but don't speak up. I'd be out at Harvard in

1007
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 6: my office with my feet up.

1008
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: God, why are.

1009
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: You so good to me?

1010
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 6: I need answers. Slaves built this school. Now I own

1011
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 6: real estate on campus.

1012
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 3: That's how I gotta come bro Charlamagne, I dare you

1013
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: say that, ain't it?

1014
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 6: Bro?

1015
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 5: I da say, you don't have to say nothing.

1016
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: But of course that was dope. What would you do on?

1017
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1018
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: How much?

1019
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? I own it.

1020
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 6: So it's this huge, huge, multi purpose facility that's being built.

1021
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 6: It's going to be office buildings, is going to be

1022
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 6: mixed income housing, and it's going to be a student

1023
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 6: academic center that's being built.

1024
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 3: We just broke ground on it. What that was December first?

1025
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 6: So I'm part of a team and take a team

1026
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 6: to make something big like that happened, brother, And thankfully

1027
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 6: I was connected to brilliant black minds that were like, yo, man,

1028
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 6: we got the opportunity to own real estate on Harvard's

1029
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 6: campus when our ancestors built this school. Man, we got

1030
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 6: to do that. And I was like, bet, that's what

1031
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 6: I'm using my money on. I don't need the newest car.

1032
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 6: I drive behind the cord proudly. I don't need a

1033
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 6: boo gouty it.

1034
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: I can have that.

1035
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 6: I can have a lambo at this point, I don't

1036
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 6: need none of that. Man, give me that real estate

1037
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 6: on Harvard's campus.

1038
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: You know what?

1039
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 5: You know? I got a couple more questions with d

1040
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 5: one because you've you've been propositioned to compromise yourself at

1041
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 5: different points in this industry.

1042
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: Right, I know what you're talking about.

1043
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't want if you're not going to say, I'm not.

1044
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: Going that's it?

1045
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah say it.

1046
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: Since I mean, is it true that you are pressure

1047
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 5: to participate in homosexual acts for a major?

1048
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: Is it true that you were pressure to participate in

1049
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: homosexual acts for you?

1050
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: Get that?

1051
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 4: I didn't see that on this It's true.

1052
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: No, it's very true. I don't know how you heard that.

1053
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: Maybe you heard another interview or something. It's very true.

1054
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: Brother.

1055
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 6: That's when I was. That's when I was a local

1056
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 6: rapper trying to get on. And when people see that,

1057
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 6: you are vulnerable because they know they got the leverage.

1058
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 6: There's certain people in this industry who will be like, oh,

1059
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 6: I think he'll be willing to do something strange for

1060
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 6: a piece of change, you know what I mean? And

1061
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 6: I had somebody was trying to get somebody to manage

1062
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 6: me at the time, and the person I was trying

1063
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 6: to get to manage me, I drove out of time.

1064
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 6: I went to a video shoot that they were part of,

1065
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 6: and during the video shoot, we were gonna have a

1066
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 6: meeting and talk about that. And yeah, that person kind

1067
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 6: of you know, implied to me like yo, like I'll

1068
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 6: manage you. You justally gotta do something for me.

1069
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see them managing artists now you like man.

1070
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 6: That So actually that person is christ Yeah, bro, No,

1071
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 6: that's a real thing.

1072
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: This ain't. No, I'm surprised y'all don't know more stories

1073
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: like that. I do know a lot of about it. Yeah,

1074
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: but it's so it's a real thing that I know.

1075
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 6: And unfortunately people so that person they're not like some

1076
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,959
Speaker 6: big model nowadays, whatever trajectory they were on.

1077
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: Like they fell off.

1078
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 6: I say that, but I want people to know that

1079
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 6: story because I could have said yes, and I could

1080
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 6: have I could have had something. To this day, that's

1081
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 6: a huge skeleton in my closet that I'm like, damn bro,

1082
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 6: like I'm traumatized behind that. And I had to do

1083
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 6: that to get on. All I had to do to.

1084
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: Get on was be real, be righteous, and be relevant,

1085
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: keep God first.

1086
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: Man. And I ask one lest thing about in posita syndrome.

1087
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: You got a record in positive syndrome, and you're clearly

1088
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 5: at a place of worthy right now. So when did

1089
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: you get to that place of worthy and was able

1090
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 5: to say, you know what, I know who I am.

1091
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: Man.

1092
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 6: Any time I'm entering a space where I feel like

1093
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 6: I'm being tolerated and not celebrated, shout out to you

1094
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 6: for that.

1095
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: I got that from you.

1096
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 6: I still feel a sense of impostera syndrome in the

1097
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 6: music industry. For the most part. I feel like they

1098
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 6: tolerate me, but they don't celebrate me.

1099
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Right.

1100
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 6: My fans, man, my fans want me to win so bad.

1101
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 6: That's why my fans like, we'll name our own price,

1102
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 6: d we'll.

1103
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: Pay for your album.

1104
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 6: We'll go stream it too, but we'll pay up to

1105
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 6: a thousand dollars for your album. I got fans that

1106
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 6: love me, but the industry, bro, I still feel like

1107
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 6: they're like, dang d got so many followers, he making

1108
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 6: so much noise, Gotta let him on there, so we

1109
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 6: gotta open this door for him. But they just tolerate me,

1110
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 6: they don't necessarily celebrate me. So I still feel impasta

1111
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 6: syndrome a lot of times when I'm in industry spaces,

1112
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 6: because you can kind of tell when people are like

1113
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 6: you too big and too powerful at this point to

1114
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 6: not have you here, but we ain't necessarily like championing you.

1115
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: Like you can see the industry pushing some people to

1116
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 6: the forefront, you know what I'm saying. So it keeps

1117
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 6: me humble, It keeps me with a chip on my shoulder.

1118
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 6: It keeps me feeling like I'm that underdog from New Orleans.

1119
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 6: I'm David with mogul lives to have to fight.

1120
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 5: You think it's more like Sharif in minutes though, It's like,

1121
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 5: oh here come d One again. He about to preest

1122
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 5: us and tell us put the weed down and put

1123
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: the liquid down.

1124
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 6: Man. That's I don't, bro, cause I never get that

1125
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 6: from people. They're like, man, you come across preachy or

1126
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 6: anything like that.

1127
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: I'm passionate.

1128
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 6: But that's why I'm able to be on the phone

1129
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 6: with a Boosie, on the phone with a Kodak black,

1130
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, kicking it with man in

1131
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 6: fresh juvenile like all these like, Man, I'm just a

1132
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 6: regular dude, bro, I'm really just a regular dude who

1133
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 6: is simply not a slave to money. And I know

1134
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 6: who I serve, who is who we say we all serve,

1135
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 6: which is God.

1136
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: So because of.

1137
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 6: That, cool man, I can't be content with things that's

1138
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 6: not glorifying God. That's happening all my watching in my

1139
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 6: space while I'm in this industry. Man, I got a bro,

1140
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 6: I'm on a breakfast club right now. Man, i gotta

1141
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 6: say some stuff that's gonna impact people even after we

1142
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 6: long gone and we're not on this earth no more.

1143
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 5: I understand it because the negative is definitely amplified. So

1144
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: when people say things like, man, how come do you

1145
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 5: want just don't reach out to some of these people personally,

1146
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: I mean, you gotta say what you're saying about the positive,

1147
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 5: and you gotta amplify that too, right Like that gotta

1148
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 5: be saying publicly.

1149
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 6: If the negative is public thank you, bro, thank you listen, man.

1150
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 6: Public actions deserve public responses. We have an industry that

1151
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 6: is putting this music out publicly every day. If I

1152
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 6: go on every playlist in the world right now, it's

1153
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 6: being curated with murder music, with music that's disrespecting our women,

1154
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 6: that's glorifying drug Dealing with that being said, man, it's

1155
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 6: got to be addressed publicly.

1156
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: It can't like, why are you gonna hit all.

1157
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 6: These individual artists up behind the scenes And I'm not

1158
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 6: interested in let me go at the industry. Who is

1159
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 6: the industry. I don't know who the industry is. Y'all

1160
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 6: had Leo Cohen on here talking about A them people

1161
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 6: got to a I got miles to feed too. You

1162
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Man, listen, America doesn't want to

1163
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 6: heal your trauma. America wants to monetize your trauma. This

1164
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 6: industry don't want to heal your trauma. They want to

1165
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 6: monetize your trauma. So I'm like, let me empower the

1166
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 6: artists and the fans to simply be smarter and say,

1167
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 6: let's continue to make hip hop. Let's continue to listen

1168
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: to hip hop, but let's make a healthier version of it.

1169
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 6: That's gonna be better.

1170
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: For all of us. You know what I'm saying. Just

1171
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: about the platinum players you get out of the platinum plans, oh.

1172
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: Man, before you before you go into that, you know,

1173
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: I want to ask you mentioned the game?

1174
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 4: Yes, Now, how do you decide who you're working with?

1175
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: Right?

1176
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: Because the game has been a rapper who's been one

1177
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: of those rappers. He's been on both sides, right heat

1178
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: positive songs.

1179
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 4: He uplist, but he's been a shooter too.

1180
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how do you decide who d One is

1181
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: working with because somebody might say that you work with

1182
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: the game in the game, he's on that line, he ain't.

1183
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 6: So the game is a center, right, d One is

1184
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 6: a center too. There's nobody on the face of this

1185
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 6: earth that I won't sit down with that I won't

1186
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 6: work with. Hearing me the book that I add here

1187
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 6: to the Bible in Mark chapter two, verse seventeen, I

1188
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 6: believe it says healthy people don't need a doctor, sick

1189
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 6: people do. With that being said, what would I look

1190
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 6: like to say, Oh, man, I can't associate with the Game,

1191
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 6: or I can't associate with Kevin Gates?

1192
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: These are all this I what you mean? They people

1193
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: just like me.

1194
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 6: That's why I've collaborated with them, and I collaborate with

1195
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 6: anybody on the face of this earth. Man, Like, we're

1196
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 6: not supposed to sit here and point a finger and

1197
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 6: judge people. Man, we got stuff. Me and the Game

1198
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 6: both lost loved ones to gun violence. That's what the

1199
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 6: song is about. Me and Kevin Gates. We both come

1200
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 6: up in Southern Louisiana.

1201
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 4: Man.

1202
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 6: The song is about what we done seen behind people

1203
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 6: chasing money.

1204
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: When we got music together, you know, what I'm saying.

1205
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 6: Like this is I got a song coming out with

1206
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 6: Project Pat in two weeks. I got a song coming

1207
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 6: out with Raheem DeVaughn in a week like bro like

1208
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 6: I'm out here. I collaborated with Loope Fiasco, Big crit

1209
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 6: you know, all kinds of people, bro, Like, that's what

1210
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 6: I want to do because I love making people say

1211
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 6: he belong in this box, and I love breaking that

1212
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 6: box and making a hit and people be like, wait,

1213
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 6: what that wasn't supposed to work. I was with Killer

1214
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 6: Mike two weeks before the Grammy Awards in Atlanta. That's

1215
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 6: my big brother. I went on my first tour with

1216
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 6: Killer Mike. Man, it was so powerful to see that

1217
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 6: brother win three Grammy Awards. Bro, and let me know

1218
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 6: that a shift is happening right now. This is the time,

1219
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 6: right now for all the boxes to be broken. Oh

1220
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 6: you're too old, Nope, Killer Mike just won a Grammy Award.

1221
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 6: Oh you got a message in your music? People don't

1222
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 6: want hear that. Nope, Killer Mike just won three Grammy Awards.

1223
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: We got it. So with that being said, it's time

1224
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: for us to all come together. Man.

1225
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 6: Can't nobody say why would you work with this artist

1226
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 6: or this artist. Me and fredill Bang got a song

1227
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 6: about the drop.

1228
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?

1229
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 6: What would I look like to not work with my

1230
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 6: student just because it's like, oh, man, will you be

1231
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 6: rapping about some different stuff than me? Bro?

1232
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: So I can't do that now.

1233
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: Because people will say, you know, you pointing a finger

1234
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: at Let's say a artists like Jim Jones.

1235
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: Would you do a record with Jim?

1236
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 6: I already got a record for Jim if he would

1237
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 6: be down the hip on it. Man, I got a

1238
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 6: ton of songs that I'm like, Jim, I think this

1239
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 6: will be fire for us. But if not, because people

1240
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 6: love to call you a cloud chaser, right, you're.

1241
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: Bringing him in your worldly.

1242
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: Oh I'm always bringing people into my world if I

1243
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: do a song.

1244
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, you gotta respect

1245
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 6: my platform. I don't curse in my music. You know

1246
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Hey, if you could respect that, the

1247
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 6: game hit me and said, guess what, Libro, this the

1248
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 6: first song of my whole career. I'm not gonna curse on,

1249
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna do that for you. That's a testimony, Bro,

1250
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 6: That's powerful. You feel me so of course I'll.

1251
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: Do a song with Jim Jones, with Meek Mill, with

1252
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: Rick Ross. But if it don't come to that, it's

1253
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 3: okay because it's not about that. Brother.

1254
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 6: I'm good already, Like generational wealth has been built already,

1255
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

1256
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 3: The im pagg is being made.

1257
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 6: The calendar is full with speaking engagements and booking and

1258
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 6: touring and all that.

1259
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: So the platinum pledge I in the.

1260
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 6: Music industry, the highest standard of success is gone platinum, right,

1261
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 6: So I turn a platinum into an acronym. It stands

1262
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 6: for people leading a transform involving newly unified mindsets. That's

1263
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 6: what platinum stands for. The platinum pledge simply says that

1264
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 6: we are taking a vow that we will not create,

1265
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 6: support or promote music. There's glorifying murder, glorifying drug dealing,

1266
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 6: glorifying the disrespect of our women, and glorifying sexual irresponsibility.

1267
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 6: That's the platinum pledge. And I'm unifying people to say, yo,

1268
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 6: there's actually more of us who agree with this than

1269
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 6: don't agree with this. But the industry will make you

1270
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 6: feel like, man, I'm the only one who I'm lame.

1271
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: If I don't want to hear murder music. You know

1272
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So the Platinum Pledge, Brother.

1273
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 6: Thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people have

1274
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 6: signed it already.

1275
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: Bro. Now I'm on the breakfast club talking about it.

1276
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 6: People could go to my website D one music dot

1277
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 6: comde the number one music dot com, and go sign

1278
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 6: the Platinum Pledge. And I'm unifying all these thousands of

1279
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 6: people together to say, now here is how we create

1280
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 6: a healthier hip.

1281
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: Hop space for all of us. That's what the Platinum

1282
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: Pledge is. Bro. I would love for y'all to sign

1283
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: the year real man. That's bro. That is life changing. Bro.

1284
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 6: That is life changing when we see this ain't about

1285
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 6: canceling nobody. This ain't about we don't love this person.

1286
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 6: We want everybody to be a part of.

1287
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: This shift, but we want to make it together. Man.

1288
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: That's huge, bro. So that's what the Platinum Pledge is.

1289
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 6: And I've been doing these meetings going from city to

1290
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 6: city called Rappers Only in New Orleans, I kicked it

1291
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 6: off in my hometown. We had one hundred rappers in

1292
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 6: the same room. Gangster rappers, Christian rappers, backpack rappers, females

1293
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 6: all kinds of stuff, right, and we in that rappers

1294
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 6: only and were talking about what's the mental side of

1295
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 6: what goes into why we make the music we make monetarily, like,

1296
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 6: how important is it to make money off of the

1297
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 6: music we make?

1298
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 3: What's the message we want to put out there?

1299
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 6: It's basically therapy for artists and me doing this and

1300
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 6: doing these rappers only meetings from City of the City.

1301
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 6: This stuff is making artists feel like dagn bro, Like,

1302
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 6: finally I could express some stuff that I couldn't express

1303
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 6: to my fan base or I couldn't express like to

1304
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 6: other people that don't just get me. Man, I'm trying

1305
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 6: to unify us so we could be better, bro, and

1306
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 6: not trying. We're doing it at this point.

1307
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: You heard me, give me your Twitters and Instagrams and

1308
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Do you want?

1309
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 6: All my social media is d one music, d Ee

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Speaker 6: the number one music you heard me. All my social

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Speaker 6: media and on streaming platforms is just d one d

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Speaker 6: Ee Dash the number one. I got eleven albums out

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Speaker 6: and counting, y'all go check it out newest album from.

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Speaker 3: The Hood to Harvard please and look. I want to

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Speaker 3: bless y'all with these patches limited edition patches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, be real, be righteous, be relevant.

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Speaker 6: That's my collaboration I just did with Levi's Envy. I

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Speaker 6: got you, brother, Remy, Yeah, man, So that's my model.

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Speaker 6: When I say three year is up, that's what it means. Brother,

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Speaker 6: be real, be righteous, be relevant, and hip hop. I

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Speaker 6: know we could do all them things and we're gonna

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Speaker 6: win together.

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Speaker 3: Thank y'all.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see y'all next time, bro, because

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Speaker 3: we gotta keep this journey. Gun.

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Speaker 4: You heard me, lewis right, d one.

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Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club.