1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Smell us now, Lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast. 2 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain 3 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 2: Time on Thursday, May first, and we're live for Meat 4 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Eater HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Brody Henderson, 5 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: and I'm here today with Corey Calkins and Crin Schneider, 6 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: who is busy checking her stocks just recently. We'll talk 7 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: more about that later maybe if we have time. On 8 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: today's show, we're going to talk about our Dad sheep 9 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: with Corey Krin and a special guest from Texas Parks 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: and Wildlife. We're also going to get a field report 11 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: from some of our favorite turkey hunting gurus. After that, 12 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: we'll share some wild game meals we've made recently, and 13 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna wrap it up by speaking to a Montana 14 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: Regional Wildlife manager about aerial big game surveys and a 15 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: bighorn sheep hunting closure here in Montana. That's gonna that'll 16 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: be pretty interesting. It's also kind of a bummer, but 17 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: hopefully we'll get some good news out of it too. 18 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: Before we get in the show, I want to send 19 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: out another request all of our dedicated diehard fans to 20 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: submit a photo of their fed up old truck for 21 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: our twenty twenty six calendar. We're still looking for images 22 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: of unique hunting trucks, and for the folks who are 23 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: watching today's episode on YouTube, Phil just put up an 24 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: example a kind of hunting rig we're looking for. We're 25 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: getting a lot of good ones, we're getting some not 26 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: so good ones, and we're getting some bad ones. But 27 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: this is this is like a prime exam ample of 28 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: what we're looking for. 29 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: That's right, and Brady, this is what we're not looking for. 30 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: That is what we're not looking for. 31 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: I understand. 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just like some confusion on the left up 33 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: part of it. 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's effed up, all right. 35 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 36 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: Also the formatting is wrong. See I thought about it. 37 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: I thought about fixing it, but then I decided that's part. 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: Of the Yeah, we don't need pictures of wrecked trucks 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: and ditches, So uh, send us something like that first picture. 40 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: And uh, what was that classic looking red truck with 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: a dead with a big old. 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: Gobbler, a couple of big spotlights on the front. 43 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a that's a hunting rick. 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not sneaking up on any elk in that thing? 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: Is that a fresh killer? Do you think the guy 46 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: drives that hunting rig with the bird on. 47 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: The front all the time fresh kill? I think yeah, probably, 48 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 5: but I wouldn't doubt there's been a deer on that 49 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 5: hood well. 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, that gentleman sent us picture 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: of that same truck with another good picture some bucksworthy. 52 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, we're gonna have to We're gonna have 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: to take a look at all of them. But here's 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: the deal. Send us a picture of your truck to 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: Fucked Up Old Trucks at the mediater dot com, and 56 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: over the next few weeks, we're gonna kind of get 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: a collection of I don't know, fifty to one hundred 58 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: of the best pictures we get. We're gonna put those 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: on the website, and then you can go vote for 60 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: the rigs that actually make the calendar, so you you'll 61 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: have a hand in deciding which pictures get in the calendar. 62 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: The people who get their rigs in the calendar are 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: gonna get a sweet prize package two hundred and fifty 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: dollars Mediater store gift card that's good across all all 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: the mediatter brands. You're gonna get a free BHA membership 66 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: and BHA is gonna throw in some additional swag. The 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: calendar is gonna come out in a few months, like 68 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: late summer, early fall. And here's why you gotta buy it, 69 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: because we're donating two dollars from the sale of each 70 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: copy of the calendar to BHA to help them keep 71 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: fighting all these attack never ending attacks on our public lands. 72 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: So it's all it's going to a good cause. You 73 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: put that thing up in your garage and you feel 74 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: good about yourself, so send us your pictures. We need 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: more folks moving on. You guys, Krinn and Corey a 76 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: little jealous. You just went to go to the like 77 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: West Texas Desert Mountains to hunt for our dad, So 78 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: I want you to give us a rundown of that hunt, 79 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: and then we're gonna be joined by a guest from 80 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: Texas Parks and Wildlife to talk about some of the 81 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: problems that these non native sheep are causing for native wildlife. 82 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: But first, just just give us a rundown of your hunt. 83 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see, Krinn, her significant other, Matt, and myself 84 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 5: were invited down to West Texas by doctor Phil Loretzki, 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 5: who's been on the Meteor podcast and this show more 86 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 5: than once. The Duck DNA Turkey DNA guy good friend 87 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 5: of ours. He invited us down to hunt odd ad 88 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 5: on the Indio Research Indio Mountain Research Station, which is 89 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 5: right on the border of Mexico, right on the Rio 90 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 5: Grande in the trans Pacos region of West Texas. There. Yeah, 91 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 5: we hunted two full days. Gratefully it wasn't as hot 92 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: as it normally is in early April down there. We 93 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 5: got really lucky and never saw tempts over seventy degrees. 94 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 5: I don't believe the first day we killed two ewes, 95 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 5: which was kind of our primary goal down there, was 96 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: to do what we can to minimize the odd ad 97 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 5: population on that ranch by taking a few ewes females. 98 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: There's Curris my boyfriend Matt with a beautiful ew right 99 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: at last light. That was pretty incredible. 100 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: That's some cool looking country man. 101 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 5: It was. It was way more rugged than I expected. 102 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: Did you get any a step on, any rattlers or 103 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: get any cactus spines in your ass? 104 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 5: Definitely some cactus in the bus. 105 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: Was it ste or I forgot who it's like? Who 106 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: said something about like the down there, like the thorns 107 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: having thorns, you can't you couldn't grab hold of anything. 108 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 5: Everything wants to bite you, stingya. 109 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: It's all spot in stock. 110 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all spot in stock. We drove around a 111 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: little bit inevitably to find the sheep. We had to 112 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 5: put a lot of miles boots on the ground and 113 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 5: uh yeah, we killed those two ewes on day one 114 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 5: and then day two, Karinn, Phil and I went out 115 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 5: and glassed up this group of twenty three odd ad 116 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 5: on this the high it was actually the highest point 117 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 5: on the ranch, forty thousand acre ranch, and we were 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 5: able to stalk in. Took a couple hours to stalk 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: into four hundred yards and I was able to put 120 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 5: down this beautiful ram and Karin actually harvested a nice 121 00:06:54,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 5: sub adult ram as well. But in front of us 122 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 5: is the recently euro mounted you. 123 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: Uh. 124 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 5: There was a lot of fun to euromount. Actually you 125 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 5: got to pop these horns off, uh, and then you 126 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: can boil the skull bleached it kind of glistened up 127 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 5: the horns and then glued him back on beautiful mount. 128 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah, but the the you meat is delicious, 129 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 5: very blown away by the texture and the flavor of 130 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 5: the meat. The rams a little tougher, but got about 131 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 5: one hundred pounds of meat off the ram. 132 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're burly animals, they really are. 133 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 134 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 5: He probably before we field dressed and weighed about three 135 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 5: hundred pounds, so he wasn't easy to roll around. We 136 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 5: did make some there's a photo up of us making 137 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: I think that was the ribs off of my ew 138 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 5: over the fire as we packed up camp made some 139 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 5: great last Steve here he'd be. 140 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: Tearing you up about how you're saying you oh you 141 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: oo ooh you you you? 142 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 5: What did I say? 143 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 7: You? 144 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 5: Phil? 145 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: Who me? 146 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 7: You? 147 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 6: Audio? 148 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: Classic? 149 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: So you guys had a good time we did. 150 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: It was a hell of an experience. 151 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: And tough hunting. Tough hunting for sure, tough. 152 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: To meaning tough physically. 153 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: Tough, tough for yeah, maybe toughest for me. But yeah, 154 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: the it's it's really punishing territory, I mean, and those 155 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: those animals are robust to be able to live out 156 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: there striving. They eat forage, cactus. Maybe there's a little 157 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: bit water, a little bit of water here and there, 158 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: but yeah, they're it's tough tough to hunt them. 159 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's a great segue into our first interview. Our 160 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: first guest is Texas Parks and Wildlife Desert Big Horn 161 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: Sheet program leader Freulin Hernandez Brolin. We got you on 162 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: the line. 163 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 6: Yep, no, thank you for having me on the show. 164 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 6: Glad to be here. 165 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: So Freudlan, these oudad are you'll also hear them called 166 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: barbary sheep there. They're native to northern and western Africa. 167 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, in decades past they've been cut loose in 168 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: places like New Mexico and Texas to provide additional hunting opportunities. 169 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: Can you give us like a brief history of the 170 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: out ad population in West Texas and then we'll get 171 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: into why there's such a big problem for desert big 172 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,239 Speaker 2: horn sheep. 173 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 6: Yep, yep no, So again, thank you for having me. Uh. 174 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 8: You know, ironically the text Sparks and Wildlife brought him 175 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 8: in back in the mad thirty fifties. They brought him in, 176 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 8: as you say, as an additional game species, and there 177 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 8: was also some private reintroductions and I know they were 178 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 8: up in the in the final Luto Canyon of the 179 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 8: Panhandle of Texas and then some in the in the 180 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 8: in West Texas. And at that time, I don't think 181 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 8: anybody envisioned that they would do as well as they've done. 182 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 8: And so now they occur in all the mountains in 183 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 8: West Texas, they occur up in a Poolutle Canyon, and 184 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 8: again in a Panhandle and also in Central Texas. And 185 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 8: they've done really, really well just in the in the 186 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 8: trespakers of Texas. We estimate that there's probably twenty to 187 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 8: twenty five thousand odd that in those West Texas mountains. 188 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: So there's twenty five thousand of those suckers out there. 189 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: What's your best guess on like a historic high population 190 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: of like how many big horns used to occupy the 191 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: mountains of West Texas? 192 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 6: Yep. 193 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 8: Well, And so back in the eighteen eighties there were 194 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 8: estimates of hunting a fifteen hundred, twenty five hundred, not 195 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 8: up there even three thousand, and up until recently, about 196 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 8: five six years ago, we had hit that historic kai again. 197 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 8: We were seeing fifteen hundred animals, fifteen hundred big horns 198 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 8: in the West Texas mountain. In twenty nineteen, we've got 199 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 8: a first disease event and we are now, uh, we've 200 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 8: lost over fifty percent of the herd now we've got 201 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 8: about six hundred to seven hundred of big horns in 202 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 8: the state, when just five years ago we were up 203 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 8: to again the eighteen eighty levels. 204 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,239 Speaker 2: And and that disease event that that's pneumonia. 205 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 8: I'm guessing correct, that's the No, We've had three independent 206 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 8: disease events since twenty nineteen, and that's the Michael plasma 207 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 8: of pneumonia or the mov that causes pneumonia. 208 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: Are so are the ourdad transmitting that to the big 209 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: horns or the ourdad just out competing them for resources? 210 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: Like what kind of problems are the ourdad actually causing 211 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: for the native desert big horns in Texas. 212 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 8: It's a it's a combination of those two things and others. 213 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 6: But those two things and so the add that do 214 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 6: carry that in. 215 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 8: We've done research in pen conditions, pen setting and the 216 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 8: odd that are able to transmit that bacteria to the 217 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 8: desert big horns. 218 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 6: We have not definitively proved that in a wild setting. 219 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 8: We've tested thirteen different mountain ranges in West Texas, and 220 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 8: in all thirteen mountain ranges we have found that all 221 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 8: that carry that bacteria and in some cases up to 222 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 8: sixty percent of the animals that we've sampled carry that bacteria. 223 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 6: So it's a it's a. 224 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 8: Huge problem from a disease standpoint. 225 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 6: The competition. 226 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 8: They completely outcompete the big horns, not just through because 227 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 8: of numbers, but also they're just a bigger, hardier animal. 228 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 8: They hoard the big horn ewes and and push off 229 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 8: the big horn rams and so ad that rams create 230 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 8: their own big horn hairm type of deals. 231 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 6: So they're socially disruptive. I mean, it's it's it's just 232 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 6: you name it. You know. They just outcompete, the outcompete 233 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 6: the big horns. 234 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 8: And that's just from a competition standpoint. In the numbers 235 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 8: that they occur, they just devastate the habitat. There are 236 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 8: places that the countryside has almost peeled to the ground 237 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 8: and that's simply just a density result of the high 238 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 8: densities that they're they carry in yep. 239 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: So this is like a problem that's not necessarily unique 240 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: to Texas, but Texas is I think something like ninety 241 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: eight percent private land, and the area where these our 242 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: dad are living is also almost exclusively private land. And 243 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: you've got a lot of landowners that are charging folks 244 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: to go hunt for our dads. So my question is like, 245 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: can a hunting really have an impact and is it 246 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: a challenge with getting landowners on board to really knock 247 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: back those out aut numbers through hunting. 248 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 6: Well? 249 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 8: And so, uh, you got two things going on there. 250 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 8: One is the hunting aspect of it, and uh, it's 251 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 8: supplemental income for for landowners. But just from a sheer 252 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 8: number perspective, a density perspective, hunting alone is not going 253 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 8: to reduce the numbers down the levels that aren't detrimental 254 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 8: to the habitat or that they don't compete with our 255 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 8: native unculates and and and so when you have twenty 256 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 8: to thirty thousand big horns out on the landscape and 257 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 8: only a few hundred big horns, I mean it, it's 258 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 8: a well, it's just it's just a huge, huge challenge 259 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 8: for us for us to overcome. 260 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 6: I will say that the mindset is changing. 261 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 8: Landowner mindset is changing, and they are recognizing that the 262 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 8: odd dead not only uh have negative impacts on our 263 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 8: big horns, but but also on on mule deer. 264 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: And we're looking at that. 265 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, so we've got research looking looking into that. And 266 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 8: so you got you know, the odd ad out competing 267 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 8: the big horns. They're also uh you know, wreaking havoc 268 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 8: on muleier populations and the habitat, and so landowners are 269 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 8: are are finally realizing that, uh, too many out of 270 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 8: that on the landscape are detrimental. So we don't want 271 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 8: we Texas Parks and Wailave would like to see all 272 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 8: of that gone, but realistically that's not a that's not 273 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 8: a realistic goal. And so we're working with landowners to 274 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 8: lessen those densities adreakys those densities, the levels that that 275 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 8: aren't detrimental to our native ungulates or the habitat. 276 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: What what's that kind of work look like? 277 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 9: Uh? 278 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:53,239 Speaker 2: I mean, like, do you see a potential of ourdad, 279 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: you know, getting knocked back to the point where there's 280 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: a healthy desert big horn population again? And like what 281 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: kind of human human intervention does that involve. 282 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 8: It's gonna it's gonna require partnerships. I mean that there's 283 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 8: no two ways about it. It's gonna require partnerships with 284 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 8: parks and Wildlife, with landowners, with NGOs, with the hunting community. 285 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 6: Uh to be able to address that. 286 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 8: You know that that monumental challenge, and it's not gonna 287 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 8: happen overnight. And and it's again, it's gonna require everyone 288 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 8: getting on that same ship and saying, Okay, we've got 289 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 8: to do something. Uh, we've got to decrease the population 290 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 8: all that populations, uh dramatically for for there to be changed. 291 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 8: And and again I'm pretty optimistic. I like to consider 292 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 8: myself an optimistic person. Uh, but I do realize I'm 293 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 8: also a realist, and I do realize that it's not 294 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 8: gonna happen overnight. And so we got our work cut 295 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 8: out for us. And when I say we, I'm not 296 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 8: just talking Texas parks and wildlife. I'm talking landowners, NGOs, 297 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 8: a hunting community. 298 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 6: You know, just everybody's gonna. 299 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 8: Have to get on board to be able to to 300 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 8: move in a in a positive direction. 301 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: Great, So can you crystal ball a future for desert 302 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: big Horns and say twenty years like even like if 303 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: you're being super optimistic, like you, you like like what 304 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: you would like to see eventually happen now? 305 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 8: And so my goal uh, and I'm charged with with 306 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 8: that responsibility. But my goal, professional and personal goal is 307 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 8: is to see the West Texas Mountains, all of the 308 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 8: West Texas Mountains that are considered uh historical big horn 309 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 8: range for them to be occupied by big horns, and 310 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 8: so can we do that? 311 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely we can. 312 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 8: We can do that, but again, as I mentioned, we're 313 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 8: all gonna have to you know, kind of roll up 314 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 8: our sleeves and get the work. We just did a 315 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 8: capture and translocation from our only clean soares in the state, and. 316 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 6: That's Elephant Mountain. 317 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 8: Whilefe bataging area, we captured seventy seven big horns. We 318 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 8: took them over, translocated them to the Franklin Mountains which 319 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 8: are situated within El Paso. And and you know, we 320 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 8: hope that that population there does well, it takes hold, 321 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 8: it becomes you know, sustainable on its own, and then 322 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 8: it grows and we're able to do capturing and translocations 323 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 8: off of their two other mountain ranges. So uh, you know, 324 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 8: again I'm optimistic that we're able to do that, but 325 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 8: we need to address all that densities first. 326 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: Gotcha you mentioned some n g O s Uh, what 327 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: are some menos people can throw a little cash towards 328 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: to help out. 329 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 8: You know, two of our greatest partners are the Texas 330 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 8: Bayhorn Society and the Wildsheet Foundation. You know, we've we've 331 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 8: you know, they've been with us through thick and thin. 332 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 8: They've supported us, you know, financially as well as logistically. 333 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 8: So those two organizations are you know, have been at 334 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 8: the forefront with us, you know, trying to trying to attack. 335 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 5: These these issues. 336 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 8: But then you also have you know, in fact that 337 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 8: was at a conference just last week and talking to 338 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 8: some folks from uh Grand Slam Club, Ovist. We got 339 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 8: the Texas Wileff Association, Dallas Safari Club, Houston Safari Club, 340 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 8: any conservation organization. Uh, they lend a hand. But our 341 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 8: two greatest partners is the Texas Big Horn Society in 342 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 8: the Wallsheet Foundation. 343 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: Great. Okay, last question, Freulan, how did get a bad 344 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: raps table fair? What's your what's your favorite way to 345 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: eat those things? 346 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 7: Man? 347 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 8: I love them, I love them and and they and 348 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 8: they do they do get a bad rap. And I 349 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 8: think they get a bad rap because most of the 350 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 8: animals that are harvested are are tough old rams and 351 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 8: so as you might suspect it's it's it's probably not 352 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 8: as tasty as as a lamber or you. 353 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 6: And so Corey was mentioning that, uh, you know, I heard. 354 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 8: That he he harvested a couple of years and they 355 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 8: were a great taste to Manna. 356 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 6: I love them. I grew up on gold. I love 357 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 6: it to me. It tastes very similar to goat. 358 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 8: You know you got you can do it and be 359 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 8: yeah you can, uh you know, do some steaks, you 360 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 8: name it. I've done some sausage that processed my own 361 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 8: meat and so I've done some odd that sausage and 362 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 8: that's the best eating sausage that I've had so far. 363 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 6: So now they're good eating out. I would like for 364 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 6: people to try them a little more. 365 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 8: Maybe change that perspective or change that uh, change that attitude. 366 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I want to come down there and 367 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: have you cook for you. 368 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna hit you up for some 369 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 4: recipes after you jump off the line. 370 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 8: Absolutely, yeah, from down I'll yeah, you know, y'all come down. 371 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 8: I'll definitely burn some meat for y'all. 372 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: Well, great froul and thanks for checking in with us 373 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: and and and learning us up on this. It was 374 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: it was real interesting talking to you. 375 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, man, drive safe now, you bet. Thank y'all again, 376 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 8: appreciate what y'all do. H your interest in getting the 377 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 8: story out. Man, it's it's awesome. Y'all do great work. 378 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: Great thanks man, have a good day, you think likewise. 379 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: Gosh, that's really interesting. I didn't realize that the odd 380 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 4: ad rams gather big horn females. 381 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he Yeah, I mean I think he 382 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: was more saying they like push like push him out, 383 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: but they're real aggressive. 384 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: Well, I guess there is evidence that the will gather harems. 385 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: And then the big horn rams just can't get to them, right, Yeah. 386 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta wonder if yeah, out competing just stuff in 387 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: their blood to be kind of bullies and they think 388 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 5: they're all bad ass the bullet hits them. 389 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Will you guys make me want to go down 390 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: there and hunt them? 391 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 5: Now? 392 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: It's pretty fun, but I'm a turkey hunter this time 393 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: of year. And uh, next up, we've got some regional 394 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: turkey hunting reports. Oh it's music to my ear. Wow, 395 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: it's my favorite favorite two sounds. 396 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 5: In the world. Well, he's goblin. 397 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: We got uh, We're gonna check in with Giannie, Brent 398 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: and Doug and get a report from those guys. 399 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: First, All right, turkey report from southern Colorado Giannis putell 400 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Us and Steven ronello. As you can see, we've got 401 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: a couple of dead birds. We actually had three in 402 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: the last three days. But the turkey hunting has been tough. 403 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: We found him on the roost. They've gobbled good on 404 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: the roost. Once they hit the ground, they've been silent. 405 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: We killed two of the latest birds we've ever killed. 406 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: The one fellaw that was here for the TRCP hunt 407 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: killed a bird at about seven thirty seven forty and 408 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: I killed a bird almost by at eight o'clock last night. Now, Steve, 409 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: anything to add to that. 410 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 6: No, it's been tough. 411 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 7: They're they're glued to the hens. You know, guys will 412 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 7: be like, oh, they're all hand up, but glued to 413 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 7: the hens. The turkeys we've killed, I mean to be 414 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 7: honest with We've had to bushwhack our turks. 415 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 6: We've had to like hunt them like spot in stock 416 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 6: turkey hunting. 417 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 7: After a lot of calling attempts, a lot of calling attempts. 418 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 9: I'm hunting at one of my most favorite places with 419 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 9: some of my most favorite people. It's Missouri turkey season 420 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 9: week two. Yesterday, first day that I got here, it 421 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 9: rained all day. It was cold and miserable, and my 422 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 9: hunt was cold. And miserable. But I was turkey hunting, 423 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 9: and that beach work any day. No goblin from the roost, 424 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 9: no goblin from the ground. They didn't even see a 425 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 9: goblin where I was hunting. 426 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 6: This morning, a new day, a new hunt. 427 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 9: No goblin from the roost, just a little bit of wind, cloudy. 428 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 9: You would think they had been goblin, but is luck 429 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 9: would have it, you didn't. So it was discouraging, to 430 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 9: say the least. But if you stick with it long enough, 431 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 9: if you're going to be a turkey. 432 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 6: Hunter and you're committed to being a good one. 433 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 9: You gotta stay with it as long as you can. 434 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: Sometimes he is a virtue. 435 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 5: It's goblin time in Missouri. 436 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 10: Well we're hearing the report from stan what's that? What 437 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 10: did you hear down there? You morning after? 438 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 6: Wow? How about before? I heard a couple of them? 439 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 10: Huh? Well, so fight it down is the report from 440 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 10: southwest Wisconsin. I still think that if you're out hunting 441 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 10: turkeys in this area, the best thing you can do 442 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 10: is find a spot where they're likely to be wanting 443 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 10: to move, and be patient and stay there. We certainly 444 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 10: employ that strategy at the first part of the season. 445 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 10: Really sitting in blinds or finding a location and finding 446 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 10: a good tree to lean up against and stay on, 447 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 10: but keep the running and gun into a minimum minimum. 448 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 10: We've done really well with that strategy. We're seven for seven. 449 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 10: Keifer is the first one so far. It hasn't got one, 450 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 10: but this was just the first day of it. It's 451 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 10: April thirtieth, the first day of season, seeing Wisconsin, and 452 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 10: that is the report from here. Be patient and stay 453 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 10: after him. 454 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, nice, thanks guys. 455 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: Man. I don't know about Johannis and Steve. Maybe they're 456 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 2: not good at Collin turkeys. Everyone else is getting them. 457 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was interesting while they're flaying some breasts on 458 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: the tail. Yeah, but they had to earn him. It 459 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 5: sounded like it looked like it was hot down there. 460 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. I've been out a couple times here in 461 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: Montana season open to fifteenth. I killed one opening day 462 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: like classic, you know, gobbling on the roost, gobbling a 463 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: little on the ground, and then worked on him for 464 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: an hour and killed him. And then went out last 465 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: week and got a couple with my boys. So it's 466 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: like it's been good here in Montana. It's I mean, 467 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: it's always the thing where they gobble like crazy on 468 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: the roost and slowed down for a while, And it 469 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: seems like an hour after they hit the ground, the 470 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: hens leave them and the goblin picks up. 471 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: So like it's it's. 472 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 2: Been good here. That's that's really all I can say. 473 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like there's been a lot of success 474 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 5: around the office. Yeah, yeah, opening day especially. 475 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: And man, I think it's like any other kind of hunting, 476 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: Like someone's hunting one spot, it's like, Eh, they're not 477 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: gobbling here, And like you talk to someone who's hunting 478 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: ten miles away or twenty miles away, and they're like, God, 479 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: they're gobbling like crazy. They came running in. So like 480 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: regionals is a regional reports good? But I like, I 481 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: think it's like real important to like know what's going 482 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: on on a like micro level local level too. 483 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: We went turkey hunting. I this is only a second 484 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: time I've ever gone. We saw four different hens, came 485 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 4: real close, but no. 486 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: Gobbles, no goblins, gobbles. You haven't been out you're you've 487 00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: just been out there. 488 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 5: Yeah. I like to kill a bear before I go 489 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 5: turkey hunting, which should have one down in twenty four hours. 490 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 5: How to buddy miss one last Friday. It's a long shot, though, 491 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 5: make sure your dope's accurate. 492 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: There you go, there's a good. 493 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 4: Tip, hot tip. 494 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: All right, Phil, What do we got on the listener 495 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: feedback here? 496 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just a reminder let's get some questions in 497 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: for the hosts, especially if they're specific to any of 498 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 3: the hosts. Prody Krin Corey. We had this question last week, 499 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: but it's a whole different crew this week, and it's 500 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: a popular question I've noticed, But the dubster is asking 501 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: for those favorite turkey recipes other than standard frying. I'm guessing, 502 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: like you know, I hear about nuggets all the time, 503 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: and schnitzel that was the popular. 504 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 5: That's all. 505 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: It's like, six is different versions of frying turkeys. They're 506 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: all good. Something I like to do, that's like my 507 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: whole family loves is just slow cook braise those thighs 508 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: and drums and wings. Like it's a pain in the 509 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: ass to cut turkey wings off of those birds, but 510 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 2: it's worth it. Like you get two wings off of 511 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: a gobbler and there's like a significant chunk of meat 512 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 2: off of those wings. So you throw all that stuff 513 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: in some stock raise it for however, long. It takes 514 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: five six hours. Then you then you pull all that 515 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: stuff off the bone and just make tacos out of it. 516 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: What's a flavor profile that you're normally doing that? 517 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: I mean flavors, Yeah, citrus and cumin, a lot of that. 518 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: And you can fry that stuff that that that pulled 519 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: meat and get a little crisp on it. 520 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 5: That sounds yeah. Go to the meat eater website and 521 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 5: look for Danielle Pruetz tequila turkey tacos. That's my favorite 522 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 5: way to eat those legs. 523 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: M This one is something I know nothing about, but 524 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: Jeremy asks. He says, I've been I've recently been hunting 525 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: pigs in close cords with a lever three fifty seven 526 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: as anyone else had success with hunting with a pistol 527 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: caliber rifle. Cheers from either Australia or Austin or Austria, 528 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: We don't know. He cut off the word there. 529 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: But you know, I've never never done it. I don't 530 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: see why it wouldn't work great if you were shooting 531 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: them up close. 532 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, never tried that. 533 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 534 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 5: Thank God, we don't have pigs up here yet yet. 535 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: Brandon asks Brodie what was more fun competing on Meat 536 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: Eater Roast or judging on the show. 537 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: Obviously, it's like it's just way more relaxing judging, But 538 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: it was fun cooking too. I don't know. I liked 539 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: him both. You know, you got Steve and Jesse were 540 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: a little harsh with their judging. I got thick skin. 541 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: I liked him both. I'd like another crack at the 542 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: cooking though. 543 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be a Brodie specific question, I'm sure, 544 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: but Nick asks what advice does the crew have for 545 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: someone trying to get their first turkey in Pennsylvania? Definitely 546 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: three years zero turkeys, he says. 547 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: I would I don't know, Like Pennsylvania is a big 548 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: ass state with a lot of different kind of country. 549 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: You could be hunting turkeys on a twenty acre chunk 550 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: of private or you could be hunting thousands of acres 551 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: of state forest. So like, I don't know, man, if 552 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: I was hunting in the middle of the state where 553 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot of public land, I would kind of 554 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: look at it like elk hunting out west and just 555 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: like hike into some stuff that's just not getting hunted. 556 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's that's nixt situation here. 557 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: If there's turkeys around and you're hunting a small chunk 558 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: of private, take Doug's advice and just like, find a 559 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: good spot where there's turkeys passing through and just sit 560 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: there as long as you can and just call now 561 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: and then, and eventually something good's gonna happen. 562 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: Cool, let's see here. Jacob asks, Hey, Corey, I was 563 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: going turkey hunting this weekend and I might see a bear. 564 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 3: I was going to carry my slug barrel too. I'm 565 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: using a twenty gage. Do you think if I keep 566 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: it under one hundred yards, I'm assuming I could kill 567 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: a bear. 568 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 5: Man, I'd get even closer than that. It's a long 569 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 5: shot with a slug fifty yards. 570 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the idea of having to, like, oh there's 571 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: a bear, change barrels and then all it's like that. 572 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm not telling him not to do it, but he's 573 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: making life awful difficult. 574 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. I've done that before. I've carried shotguns around and 575 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 5: a bow on my back because tis the season for 576 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 5: both turkey and bears to be on the docket for hunting. 577 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: But if you were hunting a spot where you could 578 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: run bears with hounds, Yeah, there you go. That slug 579 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: gun work just fine. 580 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 11: Yeah. 581 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 5: Shoot him out a tree, yeah yeah, yeah, I get tight. Man, 582 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 5: that's a one hundred yards would be tough unless you're 583 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 5: that confident. But I'd say get right in there and 584 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 5: shoot him in the forehead. 585 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: McKenna is asking you, guys, what caliber you used for 586 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: your on your odd ad hunt. 587 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 5: I had a three hundred wind mag very trustworthy caliber 588 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 5: I've used since I was twelve. 589 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: I brought my six', five which would have been, fine 590 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 4: but THEN i Used corey's rifle just because of the whole. 591 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 5: Situation, yeah it was All we were set up on 592 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 5: this rock pile surrounded by cactus and just found like 593 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 5: the one little body shaped size that didn't have, cactus 594 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 5: AND i shot mine and the odd. Ad most of 595 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 5: the Odd ad went off the, cliff but a couple 596 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 5: stayed there And kringe jumped up onto my gun that 597 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 5: the dope was dialed and, everything and. 598 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: Got rifle that sig cross the saw. Tooth, yep you 599 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: run a suppressor on. It, yep got The so the 600 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: recoil didn't bother you with that suppressor, On. 601 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 4: No not at. All normally recall coil doesn't bother me 602 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 4: too much for for any kind of bigger Guns i've 603 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: shot suppressed or. Not that normally doesn't bother me. Much 604 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: but a six' five would have been fine, for that 605 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 4: and probably a couple of other calibers would have been. 606 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: FOR that i probably would have shot up used my 607 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 4: three h eight too on. That hunt that would have worked. 608 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: For sure, all right we'll do one more here for, 609 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: this segment and we'll move it. Along here this is the, Big. 610 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 3: Question karinn but this is, For. You karin what is 611 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: your most memorable? MOMENT outdoors i think we can narrow 612 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: that down to the last six years, or so since you, working, 613 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: HERE well. 614 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 4: I would honestly have to say bits of this recent odd. 615 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: AD hunt i think because it was, so so so challenging, 616 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 4: for me traumatizing now. 617 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 5: It was it was just. 618 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 4: Really tough at ONE point i was probably close to. 619 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: Being dehydrated the the heights and the incline were pretty terrifying, 620 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 4: for me so. Definitely memorable there was a POINT where i, was, 621 00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: like SO so i guess weekend buy it. ALL that, i, 622 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 4: Said like i'm very grateful for, the Experience but i'd 623 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 4: never do. It again and obviously that's not that's not 624 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 4: true Now that i've come. Through it but but that 625 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 4: hunt was was probably up there and then probably my second, 626 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 4: solo Meal. Deer hunt it was just very uh gratifying 627 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 4: to take something on my own that that's always a 628 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 4: little bit of a of a boost to know that 629 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: you could be successful out there on. Your own. 630 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 5: That's huge and there. 631 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 4: You? 632 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 3: Go cool is? 633 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 8: That? 634 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: It phil we've got more, coming in, but yeah, we 635 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: can we. Can tackle there's gonna be another segment at 636 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: the end of, the show so don't stop submitting questions 637 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: and we might tackle a few that people have. Already 638 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: asked so, all right it's. 639 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: Time For Meat. 640 00:34:48,640 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 11: Eater menu in, that said. 641 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: What that's a? 642 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: New, one, yeah excellent excellent job again. 643 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: NEXT week i mean THAT'S when i was editing that, 644 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 3: THIS morning i was just laughing at how that's probably 645 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: my most. Dumb one it's. So stupid. 646 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 5: Those notes made. 647 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: Me cry, oh good, All right metior menu is when 648 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: our hosts uh cook up a wild wild food dish 649 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: and we're gonna share those dishes wish with you and 650 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 2: show you, a picture and then we're gonna do something 651 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 2: a little different. This time we're gonna we're gonna let 652 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: the listeners decide who made the best, best meal which 653 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: is only based on. A picture, of course you know 654 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: you can't, taste it but you know the eyes are 655 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 2: important when you're eating. 656 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 5: Eating foods don't nobody be licking? Their, Computer well. 657 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: I'M glad i didn't end. UP cooking I thought i 658 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 4: may have had time. 659 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: To do why THAT'S what i wanted. 660 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 5: TO see i just had, a busy. 661 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 2: Busy, week well tell people what you were going. 662 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 4: To, Do okay so this, past fall a bunch of 663 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: us uh with meat eater experiences Fished. In louisiana and 664 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 4: there were we when we were, Cleaning fish STEVE and 665 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 4: i cleaned up some some, fish head AND so i 666 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 4: was going to look into you're, Talking, about well. There's 667 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,959 Speaker 4: two so we actually have we have it in our 668 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 4: in our in. Our freezer here we have some ginormous. 669 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 4: TUNEA head i want one. Of those but we we 670 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 4: also cleaned up the heads of of the red fish and. 671 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 4: Some OTHERS so i think there were red fish HEADS 672 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 4: that i brought HOME that i was thinking of doing 673 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 4: some kind of grill. 674 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: Or stew there's a surprising amount of meat when you 675 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: started digging around and like certain kinds. 676 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 4: Of fish and the cheeks and, the collar and then 677 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 4: there's ACTUALLY like i, don't know what do you, call it, 678 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 4: FOREHEAD meat. 679 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 3: I mean. 680 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: Nothing else you can make a big batch at. Seafood, stock. 681 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 4: Yeah and, you know for some people looking at a, 682 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 4: fish head it does not conjure up like that REAL 683 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 4: like i want to. Eat, you yeah, you KNOW but 684 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 4: i mean people people cook hold. THE head i mean, 685 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 4: For me, FOR ME i i associate looking at like 686 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 4: fish head soup with you get in. My BELLY but 687 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 4: i did not make THAT because i didn't. Have time 688 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 4: and instead we are going to show some photos From 689 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 4: the canada goose stir FRY that i made on A 690 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 4: Recent Meat eater. Roasts episode so This Was yannie's canada Goose. 691 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 4: FROM arkansas i believe this is the FIRST time i 692 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 4: had ever. Cooked goose i've never, hunted goose and this, 693 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 4: IS probably i, don't know the Third time i've, eaten 694 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 4: goose so not that much experience with. The bird, and 695 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 4: uh it was a really. Beautiful breast and stir fry 696 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 4: IS something, I mean I guess i didn't really get, 697 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 4: creativity points but sturfries IS something i whip up. At 698 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 4: home it's, pretty easy AND so i, used soy a 699 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 4: little bit of OYSTER sauce i think was in. The 700 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 4: kitchenfries do it. 701 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: Perfect for roast because you can just kind of throw it. 702 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 4: Together exactly you can throw any sortied sauce or, sauce 703 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 4: combination uh for. A sturfry so how it. Turned out 704 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 4: so one of the judges was my Dear Friend, linda 705 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 4: huang who Is a, chinese Chef and YANNI thought i 706 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 4: was making a stir fry, TO like i, don't know 707 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 4: make it easy. For MYSELF but i told him it 708 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 4: was actually going to be more Difficult because linda's standards 709 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 4: would be. Very high so she was she. WAS surprised 710 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 4: i was, surprised myself but she was surprised that it 711 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 4: turned out that it turned out as. IT did i 712 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 4: just tried to not overcook. 713 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 2: The meat THAT'S what i was. 714 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: Ask challenge it, was tender and SHE had I don't 715 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 4: i think that was the first time She's eating canada 716 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 4: goose and she said if she, didn't know she she 717 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 4: would have thought it was, Like, beef. 718 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 5: Yeah nice what's your garnish? On, that oh. 719 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 4: There's some scallions and, sesame seeds and then the vegetables 720 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 4: were it was yellow pepper and. Some, mushroom yeah it. 721 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 5: Looks delicious tough to beat, That. 722 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 2: One, corey oh. 723 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 5: Let's see well, Wait here, I'M sorry. 724 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 3: I couldn't remember how many. Pictures coincidentwave. 725 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 11: This is here. 726 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 5: We go, oh, yeah man that looks good, Right now 727 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 5: i've made a Black bear california crunch rap supreme black? 728 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: Bear burger is? 729 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 8: That? 730 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 2: Like what kind? 731 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 4: Of? 732 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 5: LIKE so i took a black bear shoulder roast and 733 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 5: braised it, for gosh nine hours. Or so kind of forgot, about, 734 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 5: it honestly but that was probably for. 735 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: The best the nice blaze on. 736 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 5: That, bear yeah from A bear i harvested. Last spring 737 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 5: they call that a. Chevron, chevron yeah it looks like 738 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 5: a wearing a. Good thing he had that going for 739 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 5: him because his back was rubbed off. REALLY bad i 740 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 5: got That late may and he had already rubbed too. 741 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 5: Many trees, but yeah big, old bear fifteen year old 742 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 5: black bear, meats delicious every single morsel. Of it but 743 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 5: this was the last chunk. OF it I figured i 744 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 5: might as well eat IT before i kill another one. 745 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 5: This SPRING but i tried To Copy taco Bells Crunch 746 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 5: wrap supreme and It's the California crunch RAP because i 747 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 5: threw some avocado. 748 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 2: In, there yeah explain the layering you got going. 749 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 5: On there, let's see it's bear a crispy, corn, tortilla, 750 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 5: cheese avocados and some hot sauce and then you just 751 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 5: wrap it up all pretty kind of like. A quesadilla 752 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 5: but there's two flour tortillas all pressed and heated and 753 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 5: warmed and melted. And gooey AND then i got a 754 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 5: little not homemade salsa to go with, it there Ripping Off. 755 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 2: Taco bell you don't need. Homemade, salsa oh it was 756 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 2: pretty easy To Outdo. Taco, bell, yeah great. 757 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 6: All right. 758 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: The old. Fried turkey we were talking about fried turkey 759 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 2: just a minute ago that there is a fried. Turkey 760 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: SANDWICH so i just you take a lobe or half 761 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 2: of a turkey breast and slice that against the grain 762 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 2: and get your cutlets and then just pound those. Things 763 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 2: OUT then i like to soak them in buttermilk for a, 764 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 2: little while and then, it's uh you throw like one 765 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 2: layer of the, breading on get them in a. Dry 766 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 2: breading then you dip them in an egg egg milk 767 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 2: wash and then get another layer of that breading. On 768 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 2: THERE and i did these in my. Deep frier you 769 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 2: can do them in a in a cast, iron pan, 770 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: you know with whatever half an inch of grease in. 771 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: THE bottom i did these in the. Deep, friar honestly 772 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 2: this is how in my family we eat most of 773 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: our turkey breast meat because my boys. Love it it 774 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 2: actually stretches it out more than making just a big batch, 775 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 2: of nuggets like we always have leftovers for extra sandwiches 776 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 2: from one. One lobe, very simple and it's just like 777 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: a solid meal that my. KIDS love i love. It 778 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 2: too and that's. A buffalo i think It's Like frank's 779 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 2: buffalo wing sauce. 780 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 3: On there, All right i'm gonna put a pole up 781 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 3: in the live chat. Right now who had the best 782 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 3: meat eat or? Menu dish Was it Krins, Stir, Fry 783 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 3: canada Goose, Stir Fry Corey's black California crunt Rap Or 784 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 3: Brodie's Fried. Turkey sandwich and. 785 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 2: We're just gonna come back to. 786 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 3: That later how about after the interview with our, next 787 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 3: guests we'll check. 788 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 5: IN there i don't know if anyone's paying attention or 789 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 5: they're all Talking to spencer in. 790 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 2: The, chat, Yes yeah spencer is always lurking, in, THERE 791 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 2: man i don't. 792 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 5: Like. 793 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 2: It okay our next Guest Is, Montana fish Wildlife And 794 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 2: park Region Six Wildlife Manager. Scott, thompson scott, YOU there 795 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: i am Mayor got welcome to, the show and thanks 796 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: for chatting with. Us, today yeah. 797 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 7: You bet thanks for, The. 798 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 2: Invite scott can you tell us about your ROLE with 799 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 2: fwp conducting aerial big game surveys In? Northeast, montana. 800 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 6: Yeah you. 801 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 7: BET so i am the regional wildlife Manager for. Region. 802 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 7: Six uh that area is a huge northeast Corner of 803 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 7: montana For About north dakota over to The Sweet grass 804 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 7: hills about halfway over to. The front so my ROLE 805 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 7: is i have the privilege of leading a team of. 806 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 7: Wildlife biologists they get to do most of the fun 807 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 7: work in the field in the backseat of the supercub. 808 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 7: Counting critters in my, PREVIOUS life i did a lot 809 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,959 Speaker 7: of that for about FOURTEEN years i was an area biologist. As, well, 810 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 7: so yeah. 811 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 2: And you guys do those aerial big game surveys like 812 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 2: late winter? Early spring is that typically the time you're 813 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: out there. Doing, that. 814 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, it varies but that is right for most of 815 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 7: our big game species except, for antelope which are spring or, 816 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 7: excuse me summer surveys where we're trying to get an 817 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 7: idea of fawn production and so we can react to 818 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 7: changes in the population for the upcoming fall. 819 00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 5: Right. 820 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 2: Away Gotcha, uh so when when these biologists are going 821 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: out in, the plane uh to do to? Do account 822 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: are they focused On one they're they're like each flight 823 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 2: has the goal of doing a survey for one species 824 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: or are they kind of gathering into all the information 825 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 2: they can or what's kind of the process most? 826 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 7: Of them most of the surveys are designed to collect 827 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 7: data on. One species so, for instance some of the 828 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 7: pictures here are during winter, elk surveys And The missouri 829 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 7: river breaks of course at high elevation in. Those photos 830 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 7: but uh so the primary target and, Is elk but 831 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 7: biologists do record what we would, call incidentals sightings or 832 00:45:53,600 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 7: observations of, meal deer, you know other. Species encountered uh the, 833 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 7: elk survey we do also a bighorn cheap survey at the, 834 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 7: same time so that is a dual. 835 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 2: Purpose survey, But gotcha and what's the actual? Counting process, 836 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 2: look like like is are they sitting up there with 837 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: a clicker, or like how are they doing the? Actual 838 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 2: counting are these are these guys just good enough they 839 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 2: can like look at that photo right there and, be, 840 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 2: like man that's like thirty. 841 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 3: Right, THERE. 842 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 7: Yeah i challenge you to count elk once they get 843 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 7: past about thirty to fifty in. A. Bunch. Yeah it 844 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 7: so there's a couple couple things that the biologists. Will 845 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 7: do so, you know the idea is to get the 846 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 7: animals on a side profile that that helps us not 847 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 7: only count how, many animals but then they're. Also classifying 848 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 7: they're looking for how many calves are in, the bunch 849 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 7: how many bulls or bucks or in. The bunch so 850 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:09,479 Speaker 7: oftentimes it's finding a group of animals and. Circling them 851 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 7: if they're in a super cub, for example if they're in, 852 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 7: a helicopter you're kind of moving with, the herd but 853 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 7: both trying to count and trying, to classify and so 854 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 7: it's a bit of. A process you might spend, you 855 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 7: know five ten minutes with a group until you really 856 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 7: get a sense of what's in. The group sometimes photography. 857 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: CAN help i was going to ask you if that plays, 858 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 2: a role like you come back later and count from 859 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: pictures that. 860 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 7: You're, taking, yeah, yeah yeah it's hard to get the 861 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 7: classification data from. A photo sometimes, you can but the 862 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 7: photo really helps. Verify that, you know it's, a snapshot 863 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 7: you can. Count it when you have almost four hundred 864 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 7: elk in a group and you're trying to count that 865 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 7: and they're, all moving that's. 866 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 5: Pretty. 867 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 2: Difficult gotcha so one of the main other than getting 868 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 2: the lowdown on how these, surveys works the main reason 869 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 2: we wanted to talk to you Today IS montana fwp 870 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: was recently forced to close hunting for bighorn Sheep in 871 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 2: district six twenty two after a really drastic decline in 872 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:32,479 Speaker 2: cheap numbers in that unit in. Recent years how many 873 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 2: sheep were in, that unit say ten, Years. 874 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 3: Ago. 875 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 7: Yeah so sheep numbers in that district have ranged between 876 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty and three hundred animals that we 877 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 7: observe on. The survey our population objective is about two, 878 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 7: hundred animals so obviously it kind of varies through. 879 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 4: The. 880 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 7: Years yep so ten years ago we had over three 881 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 7: interren animals and. 882 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 2: Gotchaulation things but things were looking good, back then maybe 883 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 2: too many in. 884 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 7: That, unit, yeah yeah that really signaled to us to 885 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 7: be a bit, more aggressive especially with you harvest and 886 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 7: provide a lot of either sex or ram harvest at, 887 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 7: the time and so we were, pretty aggressive allowing quite 888 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 7: a few hunters access to hunting there and trying to 889 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 7: bring it back to about two, hundred cheap which we 890 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 7: did for a period of about five or. 891 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 2: Six years and so how many when you went out 892 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 2: there to do your survey. This spring i'm sure you 893 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 2: guys that were already aware that there was a decline, 894 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 2: going on but this spring when you did your, aerial 895 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 2: survey how many sheep did you guys see in. That, unit. 896 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 7: Yeah we were prepared for, a reduction but probably not 897 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 7: what we saw and that was. 898 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 3: Five wow. 899 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:02,439 Speaker 7: Five rams no hunters us fall had kind of had 900 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 7: some trouble, finding cheap so we knew something was. 901 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 2: Going on and what is? Going on what's the main 902 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: driver for the decline in? That, unit. 903 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 7: Well it is, Disease related uh. You know we we 904 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 7: were able to get some samples from both hunter harvested 905 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 7: sheep last fall an additional sample. This spring pneumonia is 906 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 7: a driver here visible pneumonia in the lungs of several 907 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 7: animals in some recent lab work from. Those samples, you 908 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 7: know there's a number of bacterias and pathogens in, the 909 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 7: herd and we've known that, for years but this is 910 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 7: the first time. We've detected one of the key ones 911 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 7: is michael plasma, ova pneumonia so we did detect that 912 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 7: in the herd for the. First time, so yeah it's 913 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 7: it's a. Complex thing there's a lot of a lot 914 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 7: of bugs that can affect sheep and. Respiratory health and 915 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 7: it looks like you hit them hard in six two. 916 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 2: And and so the habitat there is in good shape, 917 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 2: like that that's not playing a role at. All, here yeah. 918 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 7: Habitet's good, you know we see the ups and downs 919 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 7: with drought of rights a couple of years of dry 920 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 7: conditions and we see lamb production suppressed during those times 921 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 7: and then they. Bounce back, but yep so no overlying 922 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 7: habitat issues that. 923 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 2: We see So Like i've i've spent a little bit 924 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 2: of time up in that part of, the STATE and 925 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 2: i know there's, sheep nearby you know where these sheep 926 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 2: kind of dropped off. To nothing is there a concern 927 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 2: about the sheep and units that are adjacent to six, 928 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: twenty two where these these sheep at a really. Tough, time. 929 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 7: Yeah. It, Did this this die off did cause us 930 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 7: to do just a quick check on those, neighboring herds 931 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 7: and it looks like we're not seeing the same thing. Happen, 932 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 7: there thankfully we have a pretty. Good separation there's about 933 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 7: forty to fifty miles between, those populations so we can 934 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 7: expect to have minimal interchange between those populations, of sheep 935 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 7: but it. Can happen rams do go wandering, at times 936 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 7: but at this point we don't have any major concerns for. 937 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 7: Those populations. 938 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 2: Is there any hope for recovery in six? Twenty two 939 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 2: will those well we'll sheep from those adjacent units maybe, 940 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 2: fill in or will you guys maybe get active and 941 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 2: putting sheep back? In there are you just gonna like 942 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 2: kind of see. What, HAPPENS. 943 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 7: Yeah a common question and. GOOD question i would say 944 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 7: there's a lot of decision points between. 945 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 2: Here, and yeah what's The early. 946 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 7: We're probably on about step two of ten and where 947 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 7: do we go with? This HERD and i think at 948 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 7: this point we really need to know more about, you 949 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 7: know where did work you know them ov it appears 950 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 7: to be a, new strain and so learning more about 951 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 7: what does? 952 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,240 Speaker 3: That mean. 953 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 7: And then there are a few individuals and we've learned 954 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 7: of a few other individual sheep that hunters and recreationists 955 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 7: have seen. Out there so now there's a handful of, 956 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 7: sheep left so it would be good to know what 957 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 7: is what is their status before we take any. Additional. 958 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 2: Steps, gotcha well thanks a lot for talking. TO us 959 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,360 Speaker 2: i know this is not necessarily the happiest discussion, to 960 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 2: have but it's important for people to know what's going on. 961 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 2: OUT there, i mean you're talking about like a pretty pretty, 962 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 2: well known pretty well regarded area for. Sheep hunting it's 963 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 2: a place people, you know dream about drawing a big. 964 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 2: Horn tag so hopefully the future's got got some bright 965 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 2: spots in it for those sheep. 966 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 7: Up, there, yeah YEAH and i hope. So too, and, 967 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 7: yeah well we'll certainly be working hard to see if 968 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 7: we can't recover that, that heard it's still, good habitat 969 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 7: and you know we have we have a lot of 970 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 7: support to. Do. 971 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 2: That, Great, great Well, thanks scott it's been good talking, 972 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 2: to YOU and i hope you have a, Great Day, 973 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 2: Thanks scott thank. 974 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,280 Speaker 7: You guys, All, right. 975 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 2: Phil who made the best food in? 976 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 3: THIS room i would love to let, you know let's end. 977 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 3: This poll in third place with sixteen percent of, the 978 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 3: vote It Was krins steer A. 979 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,359 Speaker 2: Fry, yeah correct that got. 980 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 5: My vote that. 981 00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 3: Look good and now in second place with thirty percent of, 982 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,720 Speaker 3: the vote It was brody sand which making with fifty 983 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 3: two percent of. THE vote i feel like that's. 984 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 4: The Yeah taco bell. Bear point that's the way to. 985 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 5: EVERYBODY'S heart a little Two Am. 986 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 2: TACO bell i, GUESS man i. 987 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 5: Guess, rough well, thanks everybody just as good as. 988 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 2: It looked we got any other feedback to check? In With, philm, 989 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 2: well yeah. 990 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 3: If you want to want to answer a few, more, 991 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 3: Questions yeah i'm going to answer this one for ban 992 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 3: unless current has some uh specific examples From The meat, 993 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 3: eater PODCAST but i can't think. Of any but there 994 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 3: might be some black bear. Hunt Recap so, ben asks 995 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 3: is there a podcast of voted to diy over the 996 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 3: counter black bear Hunts, in Montana like Degrees, of difficulty. 997 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 3: ET cetera i would direct you to The wonderful Cutting the, 998 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 3: distance podcast which is hosted by our Good, Friend jason Phelps. 999 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 3: And dirk, but yeah you can go through that. Whole 1000 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 3: catalog i'm not sure if he has a specific black 1001 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 3: Bear in, montana ONE but i can all guarantee if 1002 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 3: you go even further Back When remy warren was, the 1003 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 3: host you'd probably be able to find some stuff there. 1004 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 3: As well because that's. The, podcast well you're going to 1005 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 3: find some very, specific instances specific situations and how to cut. 1006 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 3: The distance it's kind of the whole thing in. That 1007 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 3: Podcast so i'll check. 1008 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 5: That, out agreeed go back into the archives on. That 1009 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 5: one remy has multiple podcasts just related, to that Maybe not, 1010 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 5: montana Specific but western. BEAR hunting. 1011 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 3: A lot of Questions. For krin this one's from this One's. 1012 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 3: From andreas they all have a. Similar theme how why 1013 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 3: she started working at a company Like meat eater with minimal? 1014 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 4: Hunting experiences putting me on. The spot i'll make. This 1015 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 4: short my background is in journalism and. NEWS production i 1016 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:57,399 Speaker 4: Moved to montana seven some, years ago came Upon, meat 1017 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 4: EATER and i guess the background parlayed INTO what i, 1018 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 4: Do now but the subject matter was, did not and 1019 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 4: the culinary aspect of meteor was always appealing. TO me 1020 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 4: i grew up eating all, the Things as i've stated throughout, 1021 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 4: the Years and i've loved the outdoors and just was 1022 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 4: was open to open to what meat eater was. Was 1023 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 4: doing and and. 1024 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 2: You'd probably never Have you have you even shot? A gun? I? 1025 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 4: Had, yeah yeah, my dad. My dad my dad's hobby, 1026 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 4: is firearms so so indoor range Stuff, wasn't yeah but long, 1027 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 4: distance rifle all of that was new. 1028 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 2: To Me. 1029 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 4: Uh, AND yeah i WAS just i was just open. 1030 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 4: To It and i've loved every bit. Of it i've learned. 1031 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 4: So much i'm so grateful to all of my colleagues for. 1032 00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 4: The mentorship i'm GRATEFUL that i have full FREE and 1033 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 4: i get to get outside and do this for. A living, so. 1034 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah seven, years later you're just a stone cold Killer, 1035 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 2: in yeah. 1036 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 3: FOR sure i think that's one of our most viewed 1037 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 3: look clips. On YouTube is you shooting the Hog? 1038 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 4: In? Texas yeah, oh, GOSH oh i get all. 1039 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 3: Over again and this Is also i'll, say too that's 1040 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 3: a Credit to Steve finding Kreng because steve actively looks 1041 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 3: was looking for people and still does look for people 1042 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 3: that are outside the kind of usual, hunting bubble like 1043 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 3: who are people that are just killers at. Their jobs 1044 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 3: who who are outside of this. Whole industry so. Good, 1045 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 3: point yeah let's. See here, Devin, asks Hey Is dan 1046 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 3: flores Is The american west an extension of the mediater 1047 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 3: podcasters or is it going to be an upcoming? Book 1048 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 3: release looks? Really, good uh, FIRST question i would say 1049 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 3: it's it's neither an extension of the podcast or an upcoming. 1050 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 3: Book release it's going to be on its. Own feed 1051 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 3: so if you haven't checked, it out the trailer is. 1052 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 3: Up now Historian Author, dan Flores Who tot Steves Do 1053 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 3: tot randall At the University, of montana has a brand. 1054 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 3: New podcast it's all About The, american west but not 1055 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,919 Speaker 3: sort Of like Cowboys And. Monument valley it's it's, going, 1056 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 3: deep deep further into into. Deep, time first first people's 1057 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,919 Speaker 3: history of the, land itself the animals that have been 1058 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 3: there and will be there and. Are there it's gonna. 1059 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 3: Be great we've we've recorded a bunch, of episodes getting 1060 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 3: cracking on them now in the first episode Launches, on 1061 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 3: tuesday the Sixth Of. 1062 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 4: Main tuesday so everybody. Please, subscribe yeah. 1063 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 3: Big thing it's on its. Own feed it's on its. 1064 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 3: Own feed so you're going to have to do some 1065 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 3: very minor googling or clicking of links in. Podcast descriptions 1066 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 3: we Should just. I'll link i'll make a link in 1067 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 3: the description of. This, show yeah media to radio a, 1068 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 3: lot today a link to The New Dan Floores American. 1069 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 4: West feed and there will also be accompanying video episodes 1070 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 4: on right here on. 1071 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 3: The, YouTube, Yeah, Yeah yeah we've got some visuals that 1072 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 3: go along with with the, Show too so check it 1073 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 3: out on YouTube. As well and it's not going to 1074 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 3: be an upcoming, book RELEASE but i will direct You 1075 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 3: To dan floores's whole bibliography that that's not the. Right, 1076 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 3: way yeah especially his his, last book which Was. Wh, 1077 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 3: catalog yeah. It's catalog check. It out very super super, 1078 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 3: nice guy. Incredibly smart it's gonna be a. Good show 1079 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 3: samantha asks Or, says phil don't skip everyone's questions. For 1080 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 3: you mogor asked question for. The team when you're in 1081 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 3: an area with the game species that requires a lot, 1082 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 3: of glassing what do you use? Against mosquitoes the big. 1083 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 3: Mosquito question you guys have any go To, Tips man, 1084 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 3: Go ahead Cory. 1085 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 5: A man last couple springs have been, pretty brutal bear 1086 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 5: glass and glass and for bears and trying to swap 1087 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 5: mosquitos at the. Same time i'm usually prepping my clothes 1088 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 5: with some permethron, for tics but it also works well. 1089 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 5: For mosquitoes it kind of works. For mosquitos they still will. 1090 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 5: GET you i don't have a, great tip just keep 1091 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 5: swatting them or. MOVE around, i mean. 1092 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Like in, the fall it's just like in this part of, 1093 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 2: the country it's just not. A PROBLEM but i have Hunted, 1094 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 2: in alaska like tail end of summer, early fall where 1095 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 2: mosquitos and these little things called white sox teeny little 1096 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 2: biting flies and and really like a headnet and gloves 1097 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 2: is like like you can put all the deet on 1098 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 2: in the world in that situation and they're they're still 1099 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 2: going to get. To you, BUT yeah, I mean i 1100 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 2: know it's not practical for glassing to have a, headnet 1101 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 2: ON but i mean other than permethne and deep there's 1102 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 2: not a whole lot you. 1103 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 5: Can, do yeah wear clothes down, works well even if it's. 1104 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 2: Hot out you can wear, is uh as long as 1105 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 2: you're like glass and far off and it's not going 1106 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 2: to disturb, The critters like build a fire. 1107 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 5: There you go smoke. Him out woke. 1108 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 2: Him, out yeah that's a, good point hope for. A. 1109 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 3: Breeze cool. Good, QUESTION well I guess, i will just 1110 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 3: because so many people are Asking if, i'm going uh 1111 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 3: turkey hunting at all this. This year nick says we'll 1112 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 3: fill tea engineer be hunting turkeys. This season he's. PRETTY serious, 1113 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,479 Speaker 3: I have. I have i have no plans CURRENTLY because 1114 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 3: i always feel weird asking people to to take to take. 1115 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 3: Me hunting but do you KNOW what i would love, 1116 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 3: To do and because he's not in, THE room i 1117 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 3: don't feel weird. About it and because he's also never 1118 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 3: shot a turkey yet as FAR as, I know i'd 1119 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 3: love to go Out with randall because because we are 1120 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 3: we are both. Turkey virgins there's a video, right, there 1121 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 3: boy go follow you. Two Around, so randall if, you're 1122 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 3: listening this is my weird passive way of asking you 1123 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 3: to take take me out. 1124 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 6: Better. 1125 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 5: LISTENING cool i thought. 1126 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 3: That was a pretty, good. 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Winter, project, 1154 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 5: yep yep that. 1155 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 2: Was fun, so yeah that's it for, today's. Show folks 1156 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 2: good luck to everyone that's headed out turkey hunting or 1157 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 2: bear hunting, this weekend and we'll see you. 1158 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 3: Next. 1159 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 2: Week, audios thanks