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Speaker 1: Here we are Off the Edge with your host Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited, you know, I just thought about this. I've

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Speaker 1: been blessed to have a lot of amazing people come online,

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Speaker 1: sit here at the pod, to have amazing listeners and

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Speaker 1: viewers tap in. I've been around this, this media space

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Speaker 1: for you know, the podcast space for about five six

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Speaker 1: years now, you know, to this second season all Off

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Speaker 1: the Edge, and I just want to shout out to

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Speaker 1: everybody listening. Thank you, you know, thank you for tapping in,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being you as a listener.

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Speaker 2: You're valued.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of value players, I'm go ahead and bring

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Speaker 1: in a man who is clearly valuable player. You know,

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Speaker 1: a slot receiver that's won at the highest level super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You know, the man that may have seen not one,

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Speaker 1: not two, but like three super Bowl championships.

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Speaker 2: I just want to go to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: A guy who has been a part of the New

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Speaker 2: England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Is one of the you know, all dynasty team members.

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Speaker 1: Somebody who's seen the success on every level and is

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Speaker 1: of course media personality himself, and probably will see him

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Speaker 1: sometime during my bye week. A man who still leaves

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Speaker 1: the term athlete on his id bio. We talking about

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Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, big doll. Appreciate you coming.

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Speaker 4: In, No problem, no problem. Thank you to the listeners too. Man,

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Speaker 4: that was a beautiful opening right there. Value for the listener.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a football guy right there. Got to

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Speaker 3: always display value.

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Speaker 1: Big team, you know, big team, little me. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just I'm just simply thinking, like, let's just talk about this.

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Speaker 1: You know, athlete in the bio, you still consider yourself athlete.

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Speaker 1: He's still like you still work out, you like that,

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Speaker 1: you built, you built for the for the game today.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I could go out and play today.

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Speaker 3: But I mean I have everything in my life because

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Speaker 3: of athleticism or athletics.

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Speaker 4: Uh so, I mean I'm an athlete.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean this meet of stuff now, but you should

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Speaker 3: see me on the Batmanton court.

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Speaker 2: I hoping you say so. Pick a ball, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: flick of the risks, catch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's risks and elbow.

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Speaker 2: UVE love that for you.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of, you know, meet the media part though, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what what haven't you done? You're on You're on the

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Speaker 1: Fox NFL Sunday show as a sports analyst. You know,

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Speaker 1: you you host, not one but two podcasts. Man, you

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Speaker 1: never stopped working, co founded a production company. You know,

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Speaker 1: Nuthouse Sports. I've seen you know on your ig you

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Speaker 1: got to riddle all types of like skits and everything

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Speaker 1: else from there, like it's it's entertainment at its finest

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Speaker 1: highest levels.

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Speaker 4: It's been fun.

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Speaker 1: I'll say, what what What inspired you to have your

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Speaker 3: It all started with making short form content back in

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Speaker 3: like twenty eleven. Everyone knows playing for the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 3: there's a certain way you have to handle the media

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Speaker 3: media as a Patriot, it was so different or it

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Speaker 3: was so difficult to show your personality and who you

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Speaker 3: people behind the camera all working together to make this content.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's something that's been fun and it allows

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Speaker 1: And il is hard. Okay, before there was nil, you

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Speaker 4: I wish we had it.

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Speaker 3: You see these gosh darn freaking player lots and at

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Speaker 3: the SEC rolling up better looking better than our player lots.

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Speaker 3: I mean I see like six seven, eight lambows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, could imagine.

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Speaker 3: Being twenty two dollars with like five million bucks in

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Speaker 2: I mean it was I feel like it was still done.

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Speaker 1: You remember Terrell prior back in Ohio State days and

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Speaker 1: they're like stop coming up with new cars and he yeah, exactly, it.

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Speaker 3: Was a tattoo of maybe one car. But you you

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Speaker 1: Hell Cat packages everywhere, scot Pass everywhere. Oh well, Lampos

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Speaker 1: with the with the range rope. I couldn't imagine eighteen

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: You know, when we were kids to young playing in college,

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Speaker 3: it was about like struggling.

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Speaker 2: It was about struggling, but it was.

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Speaker 3: About like you had a sick TV like set up

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Speaker 4: Now it's a whole different league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my biggest My biggest fear was did I have

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Speaker 1: ain't even worried about that right now, what's the kid?

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Speaker 1: The five star kid that flipped from LSU to Michigan.

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Speaker 1: They're talking about it said ten million dollars deal. I said,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I said millions me in college I

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Speaker 1: would have I wouldn't have been a football player. I

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Speaker 1: would be like, no, So this is it for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go be a lawyer. I've started my own

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Speaker 3: It does sift out a lot of guys though. This money, right,

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Speaker 3: this new it's gonna make it harder for, you know,

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Speaker 3: to go out and basically have those blinders on with

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Speaker 3: you win and you perform, well, all that nil stuff

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 1: When I was younger i first got to the league,

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Speaker 1: I said, look, I just want to put my head

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Speaker 2: It was like the third fourth.

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Speaker 1: Oh Okay, now that I've established myself as as a

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Speaker 1: great player, now I can actually like get some deals

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Speaker 1: coming in because I wasn't in a big market. You know,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't La New York. You know, Pat's winning Green

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Speaker 1: I'm in New Orleans, a smaller market. You know, just

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Speaker 1: you have to you have to win as well as

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Speaker 1: have a personality as well as you know.

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Speaker 2: Be able to uh to push yourself in media. But man,

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Speaker 2: just just thinking a job, not that I mean, you.

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Speaker 3: Know shows you're still playing. You got five shows I

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Speaker 4: I mean you got a lot of great stuff cooking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's guys that you know, like the Mike

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Speaker 1: straight Hands that I've watched do it you who did it?

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Speaker 1: Which I mean you started you said back in twenty

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Speaker 1: Vine days, you know, like and guys.

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Speaker 1: But did your meet a career like help you transition

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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't know necessarily that I was going

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Speaker 3: I kind of parlayed a deal with with Paramount for

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Speaker 4: Guys, and that's what you really miss.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love I miss competing and you know

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Speaker 4: So you get a taste of that when you jump

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Speaker 3: And I had a plan I had a good team

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Speaker 3: an athlete that's been a professional athlete for a long time,

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Speaker 3: you've been having the same schedule since you were probably

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Speaker 3: in high school, where you go to school, you go

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Speaker 3: to practice, you do homework, and then you do it again,

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Speaker 3: and the school is flipped when you're a pro with

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Speaker 3: other teams and you're game planning, but it's.

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Speaker 4: The same schedule.

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Speaker 3: So I think a lot of guys get in trouble

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Speaker 2: Mike Tyson say, everybody got a plan to you can

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Speaker 1: Everybody swears they gonna play in the NFL for forever

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Speaker 1: and or I'll worry about it when it's done.

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Speaker 1: No, you got the You got the podcast with Gromp

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Speaker 1: Absolutely bro I remember my younger years before we had

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Speaker 4: Look forward to it, look forward to it.

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Speaker 3: Nothing more fun watching coaches go out and compete against

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Speaker 4: Mother fuck them for their technique.

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Speaker 2: Hey, talking all types of craziness. You lock coach. You

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Speaker 4: The release, get all give me a swine? Why daddy,

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Speaker 2: Caps are looking big, No doubt. Dan Campbell at tight end.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like back in his back

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Speaker 4: I love Brian. Remember you used to wear the double

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you're doing the Guardian cap.

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Speaker 1: Cool exactly, That's wild. Did you should talk about team camaraderie?

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Speaker 4: So I do wear it is a badge of honor.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I couldn't I say, I couldn't imagine you

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Speaker 4: But you didn't you know, you didn't know. You only

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Speaker 3: roll into another city and then someone rolls up to

443
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: you and says, man, you got me eight points in

444
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 3: fantasy last week.

445
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 4: Thanks bro right Minnesota.

446
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean growing up, I did. I don't remember NFL

447
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: all access pass. This is the accessibility of it all.

448
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: You were locked in on your team, like your team,

449
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: like that's that's it. There was no you know, I

450
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: don't know if it definitely was at YouTube in ninety

451
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Speaker 1: five ninety six, like.

452
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: So where were you catching the highlights for the game?

453
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: So sports Center, Sports Center, I'm exactly top ten, if

454
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: you'll take it wasn't on it.

455
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 2: That's it. That was it.

456
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 4: You see that SAT Sports Center clip five times?

457
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: All right?

458
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: All right? Man, Like at this point, I'm fourteen years

459
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: in with the Saints, Like could you imagine, like I've

460
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: imagined myself Donna in a different jersey, and I was like,

461
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: it's worth it.

462
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 2: That's what Like, that's what it comes down to.

463
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: Like all money isn't good money because like you said,

464
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: you got head coach changes, you're just going in and

465
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Speaker 1: now you're you're like, oh, he's just it him as

466
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: a OG instead of like an integral piece. There's there's

467
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: so many different ways you could look at it.

468
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 4: But there's comfort, there's you know, there's comfort costs money.

469
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: Man. You know, if you want to go somewhere else,

470
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 3: you have to learn a whole new system.

471
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: You gotta learn a new team. You got you gotta

472
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 4: learn new people in the building. Uh.

473
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Speaker 3: You know, when you're with some place forever, you know,

474
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: for a long time, and you roll up and you

475
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 3: see our parking lady give you know a hub.

476
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: You know everybody for five minutes.

477
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: You go into the cafeteria, you see all your lunch

478
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 3: ladies and lunch people. You know you're walking through the

479
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: tunnel and you see all Marv who works on the field.

480
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: You know, there's just a there's a there's a thing

481
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 3: about being with somewhere for a long time.

482
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Speaker 4: That's just you know, it's special exactly.

483
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: You know when when you're when your guy personnel guys

484
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Speaker 1: at him, you know, knows all the kids. You know,

485
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: Tyler Photographer's he's like, hey, if you ever need just

486
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Speaker 1: regular photos, just let me know.

487
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 2: You know, just like great people that you're gonna build

488
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Speaker 2: like a rapport with.

489
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Speaker 3: In Boston, you get like a bunch of There's be

490
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: Mary Anne, There'd be a Shahleen gas pipe over there

491
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: down in the hall. You know, all these all these

492
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Speaker 3: Boston people. So you have a relationship and it becomes

493
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Speaker 3: part of.

494
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Speaker 2: Who you are absolutely life alone.

495
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Speaker 1: You know, since I don't have a Super Bowl trophy,

496
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask you, do you where do you

497
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Speaker 1: keep your Super Bowl MVP trophy.

498
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Speaker 4: It's in the studio.

499
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Speaker 3: It's in the nuthouse, Yeah it is, Yeah, so we do.

500
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 3: It's we have if you watch our show, we have

501
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: a cool like wall of memorabilia through the years, which

502
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: was essentially just a bunch of that was sent to

503
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: me after I retired. Where you accumulate boxes and boxes

504
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: of things, as you know in.

505
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Speaker 4: The locker room over years.

506
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Speaker 3: Uh, it was it was fun to go through that

507
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: and put it all on the wall for the show.

508
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Speaker 3: And and that's where that that that trophy.

509
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: Is dirty, dirty Tiffany's boy. I wish I got a

510
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 4: car though, And it was the first.

511
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Speaker 3: Year he didn't give a goddamn car for Super Bowl

512
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Speaker 3: MVP bla bro. And even though the cars get old,

513
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Speaker 3: I remember when I was a young player. You know,

514
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 3: Tom got an m VP and he had his like

515
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: his escalade uh in the parking lot, and it'd be

516
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Speaker 3: like five eight years old, but it was still a

517
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl car, like MVP car that held drive.

518
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Speaker 4: Every once in a while.

519
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: Dion Branch had a Cadillac Coop that he got when

520
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: he won one. So it was like a badge of honor,

521
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: you know, because everyone always.

522
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Speaker 4: Had their new cars in the lot.

523
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Speaker 3: But if you saw this like six five six year

524
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: old car, roll up in there and you're like, oh, what, oh,

525
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Speaker 3: MVP car, MVP.

526
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Speaker 1: Car, didn't didn't uh, didn't good old Tom by James

527
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Speaker 1: White a suo give him the Super Bowl MVP car.

528
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Speaker 2: What I think he gave him.

529
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Speaker 3: I think he gave Malcolm Butler the car after the pick. Okay,

530
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Speaker 3: so I think, you know, But then Thom's had so

531
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Speaker 3: many of those things it's it's hard to track that

532
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: for accounting and tax reasons.

533
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Speaker 4: So he probably just gave it away.

534
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Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with this and don't write

535
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Speaker 2: it down. Give it, give it to my dog.

536
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Speaker 1: Uh.

537
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Speaker 2: You know, you're one of only nine receivers to win

538
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP. You know this?

539
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Speaker 4: No, I didn't know there was nine?

540
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you name the other eight?

541
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: Well?

542
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: I know Jerry did it. I know Holmes did it.

543
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: I know, Uh Cook did it. Dion Branch did it.

544
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

545
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Speaker 4: That's four. Who else did Lynn Swan do it?

546
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he did? Okay one historian over here?

547
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Speaker 4: Five?

548
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: Who else where? Steve Other said Stealers? Uh did I

549
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: say homes? I said homes right, yep.

550
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Speaker 2: But you're missing one.

551
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: Another Steelers Hines.

552
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there we go.

553
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: It was too I forget. So that's six. I got

554
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: two more.

555
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: One of them became like an award, college award.

556
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: One of them became a college award. What years?

557
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: Uh that is at the very beginning right after Lynn Swan.

558
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 3: Oh, that's one of those tough guys.

559
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fred Blittnikoff.

560
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: Blittant cough, the blatant cough with the.

561
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Speaker 2: Fun exactly, ka boom. That's the only reason why they

562
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Speaker 2: might have then. Yeah, yeah, that's impressive. And Desmond Howard

563
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: and well, he was a kick returner mm hmm.

564
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Speaker 4: That was with the Packers when he ran, when he

565
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Speaker 4: housed it, You're.

566
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Speaker 1: Like, okay, you're not gonna claim him.

567
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Speaker 3: We'll claim I'm a teamer. You know, I'm a part

568
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: returner too, so we'll definitely claim him. But like when

569
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Speaker 3: you think of Dejien Howard, I don't remember him.

570
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 4: You remember him as.

571
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Speaker 3: His receiver, but he always had such a lectrifying like

572
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Speaker 3: kickoff returns.

573
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Speaker 4: I remember that when that was in the Super Bowl.

574
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Speaker 2: No, he's even fun.

575
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: And he was like remember him and Dante Hall back

576
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: in the day, do I joy.

577
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: Stick exactly you?

578
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: And then but then they followed up with, you know,

579
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Speaker 1: possibly the greatest returner ever just a few years later

580
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: with with Devin Hester, and I was like, I was.

581
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I was like, nobody's gonna be better than Dteo.

582
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: Devin Hester showed up. I was like nobody's gonna be

583
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: better than Danteo, than Devin Hester and Corde Cordero.

584
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Speaker 3: Well, okay, you gotta put some love to Cribs too.

585
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: Josh crib a monster on special teams for a long time.

586
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: And I remember when I was at Kent State and

587
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: he was the quarterback before me at Kent State. And

588
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: when we go up to Cleveland, people forget how big

589
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: Josh Cribbs was. I mean he was on the sides

590
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: of buildings for Nike ads, like the guy in Cleveland.

591
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: Their only form of any kind of offense, and it

592
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: was on special teams, and they used to do a

593
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: bunch of wildcat stuff. So Josh Cribbs got to be

594
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: put in there too. For returners, Sharon Sproles was really

595
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: good at a punt returning. Jackson DeShawn Jackson home runner.

596
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: I just still see him catching. I don't know, he's

597
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: still catching seventy yard touchdowns. I think he just caught

598
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: another fifty five yard touchdowns. I don't know how let

599
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: this guy get behind you every time every time because the.

600
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: Sort and has like the deceptive speed bro like, and

601
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: you're just like, how is he that fast gliding glid?

602
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Speaker 4: I mean that's that's one of these God touch you

603
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: with that.

604
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Speaker 1: Speed, guy give you a little he just touched you.

605
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean with with your Lester's career, Like

606
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're coming up on eligibility of you

607
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: know what that h O F how you like? You

608
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: know how what does it even feel to be like

609
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: mentioned in that same sentence because that's that's rare air.

610
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Speaker 3: H you know, it's it's a it's pretty cool. I

611
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: mean usually it's a lot of negative talk if anyone's

612
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: talking about it, but uh, if they're talking about it

613
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Speaker 3: and even putting you in that sentence, uh, it's pretty

614
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: damn cool.

615
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Speaker 4: But ultimately that was never my goal.

616
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Speaker 3: Uh when I when I was playing football, my goal

617
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Speaker 3: is the the hote of a Lombardi Trophy. And I

618
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: got to do that three times and playing four times

619
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Speaker 3: five I didn't play with my A C.

620
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Speaker 4: L year.

621
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Speaker 3: But you know, so like that's where I'm content. But

622
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Speaker 3: you know, it's an absolute honor that people even talk

623
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Speaker 3: about it because you look at the names and the

624
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: people and the guys that I grew up watching and

625
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: guys peers that I played with that have already gone

626
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: in like you know, those that's that's the cream of

627
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: the crop right there.

628
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Speaker 1: Facts you look at your postseason status, I mean postseason

629
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Speaker 1: stats where you know, your stats speak the loudest, third

630
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Speaker 1: all time in playoff res even yards third all time,

631
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Speaker 1: and playoff receptions, like you know, like it's it's.

632
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a hell of a run. It was

633
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: a hell of a run.

634
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: Still gonna remember, probably one one of the greatest catches

635
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl history.

636
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: So like if we're saying, we're saying, you know, those

637
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: stats matter.

638
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Speaker 4: I mean some would say that those stats matter the most,

639
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: but usually be winners.

640
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: You don't want three of them things lower.

641
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: Just you know, it was still cool to be a

642
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: part of that organization. I mean, I remember when I

643
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: got drafted New England. I was a huge Niners fan

644
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: growing up. Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Brent Jones,

645
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: Ken Norton and the success that they had when you know,

646
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: I was really young, and then they got the Super

647
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: Bowl in the nineties when I was pretty.

648
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Speaker 4: Much able to remember.

649
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: But they were such a folk lore of a team

650
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: to our family. And then to get drafted to New

651
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: England and they had three Super Bowls at the time when.

652
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: I got drafted there and they were kind of getting.

653
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: In that that like Niners, Steelers, Cowboys world of organizations.

654
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 4: You know. It was like it was just like I

655
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 4: was pinching myself because I was.

656
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: Like, man, I'm on the San Francisco forty nine ers

657
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: of this generation when I first got there, you know,

658
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: with Tom Brady had the quarterback and you had the

659
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: coach they had, you know, Niners have Bill Walsh, we

660
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: have Belichack and the great defenses and the key players around. Like,

661
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: it was just it was such a cool thing to

662
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: be a part of. I'm you know, I'm really thankful

663
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: for that. I don't know if it's because of Thanksgiving,

664
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Speaker 3: but I just got so much thankfulness going right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So you had Tom Brady and come out

666
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Speaker 1: of out of a you know, Michigan, and I was

667
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Speaker 1: like seven round pick in his story, your story, like

668
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Speaker 1: the fact that you guys are are great teammates.

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like, is there you know, I'm

670
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Speaker 2: thinking of.

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Speaker 1: The game last night when you watch you know, game whatever,

672
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Speaker 1: this last game where you watched Jameis Winston inspire the

673
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns to go rally past the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about get your lesture's career.

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Speaker 1: Was there ever a need for Tom to give you

676
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Speaker 1: like a rally who rah, like you know with you

677
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Speaker 1: guys padded the success was there? Was there every time

678
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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this one we knew, we

679
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Speaker 1: go kick it in gear. I just I just feel

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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady in my mind is always like business

681
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Speaker 1: as usual. Look, we're gonna we're gonna give me, I'm

682
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: gonna take the rock. I'm gonna give you the rock.

683
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Speaker 1: We're gonna win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's definitely been some stuff captured on

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Speaker 3: the sidelines of Tom being vocal, but you know, as

686
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 3: with Tom, there was a lot of unseen stuff, individuals

687
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 3: stuff if he knew you were having a hard day,

688
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: or he knew something was going on in someone's life

689
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: or someone need to pick me up. You know, it

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00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: may not have been around people, but he you know,

691
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: he'd walk you over and you know.

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00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 4: See see what was up and what he could do

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Speaker 4: to help to get you better.

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Speaker 3: And I think there was countless of those times because,

695
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: as you know, the NFL season is such a grind mentally, emotionally, physically,

696
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 3: and that's all just within the game, and the people

697
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: don't realize that you're a regular human being and you

698
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: have off the field and regular life stuff that you

699
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: have to deal with. Family, male family matters, health of family,

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Speaker 3: things of those magnitude and those things going on in

701
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Speaker 3: your life, which that's hard to juggle for young eyes.

702
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: And you know Tom was a vetro and I got

703
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Speaker 3: in there, so he was as he was always a

704
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Speaker 3: great guy that could you know, give me through his

705
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 3: experience advice. So he's he's always a guy that could

706
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: with a lot of guys, you know, with with anyone.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be necessarily in front of people, but he

708
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: would always kind of, you know, buddy up with you

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Speaker 3: in the locker room and kind of see what was

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 2: Mmm.

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Speaker 3: I mean true leaders, leaders all, they all have different

713
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Speaker 3: ways of leading.

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00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: Facts. Facts all.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's transition to a little bit lighter talk about

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00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: a fun topic just because you know, now you're in

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00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: LA you've spent your entire career with Boston. Hit a

718
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: little East coast versus West coast lower here, but we'll

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Speaker 1: do a fun section called versus where you know we'll

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Speaker 1: ask you, I'll ask you a few questions about which

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00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: is better l A or Boston.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: And as a fact, kid, we're gonna start off with

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Speaker 1: the important question better food.

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00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: Oh it's tough. I have to go l A. Yeah,

726
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: I have to go La.

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00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 3: Now if you want like unbelievable lobster oysters.

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Speaker 4: Italian.

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00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: Uh, Boston is really great, but I have a bias

730
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Speaker 3: because I come.

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Speaker 4: I'm from California and.

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Speaker 3: I love Mexican food and the Mexican food out and

733
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Speaker 3: in Boston I found my one what is it a

734
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Speaker 3: hualastcos is pretty good.

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Speaker 4: But just pound for pound thanking out here. I gotta

736
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Speaker 4: go with the Mexican.

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Speaker 3: I can't get the Italian of the East Coast, but

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Speaker 3: I'm a Mexican food guy.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather go on to Enchilada.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm a Chili riano or carneacta fries. Every time

741
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Speaker 1: I hit the West Coast, I need the carneo fries.

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00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: They're not hitting the same in Louisiana. Nah, all right, no, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you're better restaurants.

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00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: Better.

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00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: See that's a I like that difference of that question.

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00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: I would go with Boston. I have more fun and

747
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: I like the restaurant game there because it's a different environment. Uh,

748
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 3: you know, La, you go to the restaurant and seen

749
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Speaker 3: and see me. You know, sometimes you just want to

750
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: go have a nice meal with a couple of boys

751
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: in like a little little Brownstone under you know, an

752
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: establishment in Boston where you to hide out, get some

753
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: you know, oysters, get you know, so for restaurants. And

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00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: I love you know, Ken Oranger and his restaurants out

755
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: in Boston, a bunch. I got a bunch of friends

756
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: in that chef world in Boston. I'm gonna have to

757
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: go with Boston.

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00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 2: Better night life, la Yeah, easily, easily.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the one time I went to Boston,

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Speaker 1: I think they like they kept the bottles or something

761
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: like that, and they would like only like the poor.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got to you gotta realize, you know,

763
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: I played for the Patriot.

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Speaker 4: It's you.

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00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: You're doing to do what you wanted.

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Speaker 3: You could do that. We had a lot of wins.

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Speaker 3: We had a lot of fun times. I love the

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Speaker 3: night life in Boston. But some like, you go to Boston,

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Speaker 3: everyone's gonna be watching you.

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Speaker 2: You go to l a nobody caps.

771
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: Right next door, ain't nobody watching?

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00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: Nobody cares?

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00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Too many sports teams, too many celebrities, too many flights

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Speaker 1: on the.

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00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: Street, you ain't going you see Tom Hanks and Pole Foods,

776
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: you ain't messing with him with me.

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00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: Better sports city as far as teams, fans and traditions.

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00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: Oh it's come on, It's titled town Boston.

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00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: I mean I went to every damn championship there was

780
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: in pro sport. I played in Super Bowls, won Super Bowls.

781
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: I went to you know, the Bruins winning the Cup.

782
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 3: I've been to the Red Sox winning the championship, sat

783
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: courtside with the Celtics winning the championships.

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00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: I've been to them all. I've been to them all.

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00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: You can't argue that better vibe I like.

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00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: I like the Boston vibe. Yeah, you know l A.

787
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 4: You know how LA is. Everyone's after here.

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00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I's actingst They.

789
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: Might be a little meaner, but they're not meaner. They're

790
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 4: just honest.

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00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: Is that what you're gonna cover for them? Got it?

792
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: Got it?

793
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: Honest?

795
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: But I tell you right now, you walk down the

796
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: street in Boston, you say hi to someone, They're gonna

797
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: look at you sideways.

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00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: You do that, and someone's gonna be, oh, what do

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Speaker 4: you do this?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 4: But if you walk down the street.

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00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: In Boston and something happened to you and you got

803
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: hit or some you were injured, you needed help. That

804
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: mean ass person that wouldn't say anything to you would

805
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: help you more than the person in LA would help you.

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00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmm okay, solid right there.

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00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: That's It'd be an asshole the whole time doing it, but.

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00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: They would help you. How you running the street and

809
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 2: you didn't see it coming.

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00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got a clear I got a terrible

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Speaker 1: Boston accent. I would never get it down.

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00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: It's tough. Don't pronounce any r. It's like having.

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Speaker 2: That's that's tough. Hey man, Well, I appreciate you, you know,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you hopping on the pod. Uh, clearly, I'm

815
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Speaker 2: gonna have to come on your pod.

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00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Dudes on Dudes with Dudes.

818
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Speaker 3: Games with Names, which is their fun podcast where we

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Speaker 3: go over historical games in all sport with someone that's

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Speaker 3: played in the game to get their perspective on how

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Speaker 3: they prepared, what the game yume was like, what the

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Speaker 3: celebrations were, what the pop.

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Speaker 4: Culture was going around during that time. It's a fun way.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to learn about dudes and what

825
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Speaker 3: kind of dudes are, you go to Dudes.

826
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Speaker 4: But if you want to learn.

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Speaker 3: About games, and you want to talk about historic games.

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Speaker 4: You go to games with names. Do your games? Which

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00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: one do you want? We got them both, great question.

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Speaker 2: I need to know what type of dude I am

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Speaker 2: or what type of dude I'm about to play.

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Speaker 6: So I love that anytime you got all pros, you

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00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 6: got moles, you got Hella sacks, everywhere, You've been on

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Speaker 6: one team for one your whole career, Like, that's a

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Speaker 6: freaking stud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know Steve Jordan, Cam Jordan's two teams

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Speaker 1: so far, you know, in New Orleans Saints, Minnesota Vikings.

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00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: So that's so, that's that's legacy too, legacy legacy. You

839
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: came out of a stud too. You know, horses you got,

840
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: You're part of that study.

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00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: When you said pedigree, I was like, dang, yeah, pedigree,

842
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: pedigree applies.

843
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when you got I mean you came

844
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: from you came from one greatness.

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00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: Anyway, let me let me get you out of here. Man,

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00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: I appreciate you for tapping in.

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00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: Hey, this is off the edge with Cam Jordan's Man,

848
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: I've I've had probably more fun than I expected to have,

849
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: But who wouldn't When is Julian Edelman on the other side,

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00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. Uh out there again. I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you to leave a five star review wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that's the It's Apple podcast. iHeart radio. Watch us

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Speaker 2: on the NFL YouTube. You know what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Things we want to go in with, continue greatness and

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Speaker 1: continue success. I got I got guys, I got friends.

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00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: I've got people galore coming on the pods over the

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Speaker 1: next few more, few more weeks, and we're gonna just

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Speaker 1: keep on rolling. So thank you for tuning in Off

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Speaker 1: the Edge with your host Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you juels all day.

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Speaker 3: Like and subscribe unfollowed, then follow again so we can

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Speaker 3: break algorithm. Comment and the comments Off the Edge greatness

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Speaker 3: a stud and Cam Jordan's

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Speaker 2: Hell you helly