1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: myself LeVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: fs R. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: Get this, Punies, you're listening to Fox Sports. 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Radio, I can go anywhere. It's reading Rainbow, yep, be anything. 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Such a good song, man, I tell you what gets 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: you every time. Guys, I'm kind of over it. 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, be honest. 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, I'm over it too. But I 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: can never be fully over it. I mean, it's just 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's a very special song to me. Well you, uh, 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: what do you think the timeline is on it? Uh? 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: I don't. 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: I don't care to disclose that information to either one 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: of you. 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: I have a couple of songs. There's actually one of 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: then I think submit this week. 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: Oh, come on, keep yours until Super Bowl because we 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 4: got a special presentation. 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 5: Keep yours until super Bowl. 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: When we hear yourself, Lavarn and I have a special 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 4: dance routine for you. 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: Are you being serious? 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: The ravash and. 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you being serious? Being did serious? 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: You too have come up with a dance routine. It's 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: not a routine. It's just like it just kind of 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: morphed into a thing. 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: First off, even if it was, it would not be 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: the worst thing You've admitted to. The whole fashion thing. 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: You were like, Yeah, I'm big into fact that. That's 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: a little bit more weird. Really, Yeah, did I say 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 3: I'm into fashion? I am into fashion, not like that. 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not like at fashion week or anything. 41 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: Like. 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 5: I don't walk around with a purse or anything, you know. 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: I mean, how how many pairs of shoes you're bring 44 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: into super Bowl Week? 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: I've been very minimum lately. I used to you check 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: a bag? Probably not? Probably not. I don't think we're 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: in long enough to check a bag this year. Yeah. 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: And if I were checking a bag, it would be 49 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: because of my shoes. 50 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 5: Your shoes, Yeah, because I got big feet. So yeah, 51 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 5: I get that. 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: I get that, But yeah, I haven't really been into 53 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: like wearing a whole bunch of shoes, So yeah, I 54 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: probably won't check a bag. 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 5: Well, there you go. 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: Hey, I think we're all going to be fired up, 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: ready to go for next week. 58 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: And who knows. Patty's talking about doing the break doesn't 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 3: travel much, so he's gonna be like a caged animal there. 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: It's his first Super Bowl and at him that there's that, 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: but he's just excited to be out. He's like, just 62 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: excited to be here. Let me let me at him. 63 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 5: Dang. 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well, it is two pros and a cup 65 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, it's Lebar Arrington, 66 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. You can find 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: us on the iHeartRadio app and on hundreds of affiliates 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 4: all across the country. If you're listening on the podcast, 69 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: we appreciate you doing so. And who knows, maybe by 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: super Bowl week, by next week, who knows, probably going 71 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 4: to be after the super Bowl at this rate, maybe 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: the Browns are going to have a head coach. Maybe 73 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: somebody will step up and and be the guy. The 74 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: latest report I saw was that Jim Schwartz is gaining 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: momentum on being the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns. 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: You've got this. 77 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: Brady mentioned earlier guys pulling out left and right from 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: the Browns job. As awkward as that sounds, it's the truth. 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 4: And we're talking about the Browns job and not anybody 80 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 4: in the Cleveland area, but they are just left and 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 4: right don't want to be a part of it. Udinsky 82 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 4: was the latest. He's decided, you know what, I'm gonna 83 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: go ahead and maybe sit this one out and wait 84 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: for Buffalo. And so the whole conversation turns to, so 85 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: why is everybody opting out of wanting to go talk 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: with the Browns further about their head coaching vacancy. And 87 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: Tom Pellisera was talking to Rich Eisen and he detailed 88 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: some of the requirements that may be leading to dudes 89 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: in the NFL saying, yeah, we're good here already went 90 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: through scrool one time. 91 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 6: The Browns search prop an interview process which they have 92 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 6: run a number of times, is unlike any other in 93 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 6: the NFL, and it plays to certain types of candidates. 94 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 6: They are a data driven operation in Cleveland, and so 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 6: they spend an extraordinary amount of time gathering data on 96 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 6: their coaching candidates. You're talking about taking a personality test. 97 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 6: You're talking about writing an essay, you're talking about completing 98 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 6: homework assignments, going into both the first and the second 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 6: rounds of interviews. 100 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 4: So if you want the Browns job, it comes with 101 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 4: a lot, and there's a lot that is asked of 102 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: you if you want to be a part of that 103 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 4: fine organization and be their next head coach. 104 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: Why is that so offensive? 105 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: Though? 106 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Like we're trying to understand why is that so so offensive? 107 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: Which which part? 108 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 5: Which part? 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: Like? 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: Which part are you saying is weird? Homework assignments? 111 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: Well, have to write an ess they have to write 112 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: an essay. Okay, they do a personality test, they there's 113 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: some other they have a questionnaire they have to kind 114 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: of go through. 115 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 5: So why is that offensive? 116 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: Because it's not a dating app, it's a job in Ah. 117 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: Right, I don't know that offensive is the right word 118 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: for it. I guess I'd just look at it and say, 119 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 3: so you're data driven, Okay, what have you derived from 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: the data of all the coaching hire since Jimmy Haslam 121 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: has taken over his majority owner? What have you derived 122 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: from that data? 123 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: Like? 124 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: What have you learned? Because perceivably the last coach you 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: just had and you fired who coached another Pro Bowl quarterback. 126 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: Chalk that up for a win for Kevin Stavanski. He 127 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: was a two time Coach of the Year. I believe 128 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: the only other coach who falls in that category is 129 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 3: like Sean McVay. Maybe that's a current head coachfl And 130 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: by the way, once you fired him, he immediately became 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: one of the top head coaches to go be hired 132 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: by the Atlanta Falcons. So my point in saying this is, 133 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: if you're the majority owner and you are with a 134 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: brain trust that's in the decision making process of hiring 135 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: and firing these guys, it doesn't appear like your process 136 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: for hiring works, or if it does work, then the 137 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: guy you just had may have been your best head 138 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: coach and you just didn't really see the full entire 139 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: picture for your own mistakes. Because one of the issues 140 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: with Kevin Stefanski's tenure was the quarterback position, to which 141 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: I thought he did a hell of a job with 142 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: what he was given, despite the one guy that he 143 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: had to probably co sign on, but it wasn't his choice, 144 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: which was Deshaun Watson. That was the owner's call. That 145 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: was what Andrew Barry them were a part of. So 146 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: it's not offensive. It just it seems insane when you 147 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: do the same thing over and over and over and 148 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: over again, yet you expect a different result. That's probably 149 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: a better way. 150 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 5: That's the definition of insanity. Again. 151 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't I don't find it, just at a glance, 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: to be offensive. I don't find it to be If 153 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: you're not getting the results that you're seeking, at least 154 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: you have data to look at and say, Okay, maybe 155 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: we don't need to hire this person, you know, with 156 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: this personality, you know, makeup. Maybe we don't need to 157 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: hire this person that doesn't want to take home this 158 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: work and do it at home, don't. I don't really 159 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: know why they're failing the way that they are, but 160 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: I will say I will say it's a job interview, 161 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: and whether they're failing or not, if that's their process 162 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: and you want to get the job, then you do 163 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: what's required to get the job. If if that's what 164 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: the interview process consists of, that's I mean, for me, 165 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: that's that's how I would be looking at it. 166 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think the issue is is you've got 167 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: candidates that I think they are excited about, who aren't 168 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: you know, interested in that process. That's and then that's 169 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: a problem like that. 170 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 5: Well, that is a problem, I mean like a problem. 171 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: And again if they start winning super Bowls that I 172 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: think it becomes more normalized and people say, well, hey, 173 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: this is just part of their process. They're obviously really 174 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: good at doing this. But I think there's two issues 175 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: with this. There's the issue of it being so unique 176 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: in an allyer from everyone else, and also like is 177 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: it really applicable to what their job requires? And if 178 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: it's not, you might say it's it's unnecessary if you're 179 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: making your you know, guys go jump through hoops that 180 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: aren't going to matter at at at the end of 181 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: the day. And then and they might not matter for 182 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: two reasons. One, it's not really again part of the job, right, 183 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: like I'm all four interview process that's going to actually 184 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 3: help you find out if the person can do the job. 185 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: But there's also their own involvement. Like if you hire 186 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: a guy to do a job and then you're meddling 187 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: in his job or in what his job outcome looks, like, 188 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: how can you really you know, fire him or how 189 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: can you really put him to blame for all of it? 190 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: I mean go look at Andrew Berry's track record since 191 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: he's been there in their front office in some capacity. 192 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: If you want to attach a win loss record to something, 193 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: attach it to him. It's awful, it's horrendous, and like 194 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: you can stake your claim to, you know, getting a 195 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 3: guy like Miles Garrett being a part of the brain 196 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: trust that drafted a number one overall? Yeah, shocking. Did 197 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: you see the guy coming out of college? How wouldn't 198 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: you have picked anyone else? I mean, Miles Garrett might 199 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: be an alien. Like if you had to make a 200 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: case for one of the players in the NFL right 201 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: now that you're like, I don't think he's human, mine 202 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 3: would probably be Miles Garrett. If you've just ever seen 203 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: how that guy's built, how he moves everything else. He's 204 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: a freak. Like I personally don't look at a front 205 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: office when they make a draft pick like Miles Garrett 206 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: and go, oh, pat him on the back. What a pick. 207 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: It's like I could literally train my dog to probably 208 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: make that pick. He's probably gonna look at it. I 209 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: don't even have a dog right now. He's probably gonna 210 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: look at him and go, yeah, I want that guy. 211 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: He looks like the best guy to be on our team. 212 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's like it's absurd to sit there 213 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: and like stay claim to certain guys where are like, oh, yeah, 214 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: like Baker Mayfield. They dropped them, you know, number one 215 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: overall when you took him, which by the way, could 216 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 3: have still been your quarterback, but you messed that up 217 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: and it was like, yeah, he's a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback. Shocker, Like, 218 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: is that that hard to make him the number one 219 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: overall pick? I don't know. I just I think part 220 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: of the issue with Cleveland is there's no accountability from 221 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: the ownership as far as their involvement in the hiring 222 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: firing process, and especially if you look at it when 223 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: he first took over, with the way they ran through 224 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: coaches and then now meddling in things after they hire 225 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: the guy. It's like, just stay out of it. Let 226 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: those people do it. And by the way, the guy 227 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: you're closest to, and Andrew Berry, if this is his 228 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: process and everyone else is telling you like I'm not 229 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: interested and you're trying to look for the next Sean McVay, 230 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: which is what people are telling me who are dialed 231 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: in through Cleveland. Well, you just you just put I 232 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: pushed them away. It does. It's like, I don't know 233 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: that you can run a unique process for the job 234 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: that is going to be pushing away some of the 235 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: top talent. Like that doesn't seem like a great way 236 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: of trying to find a guy to get in there 237 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: and turn this thing around. 238 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: I mean, the biggest indictment has to be that they've 239 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: not had success. I mean that that has to be 240 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: what what you run with on on this process. If 241 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: if you're so strong about saying that, why would. 242 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: You do it? 243 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: Or why would I or why would I take this 244 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: job or interview for this job? If I have to 245 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: do homework assignments or do personality tests and stuff like that. 246 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it. 247 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 3: You go to. 248 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: A combine, you have to do a ton of things 249 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: that consist of those. 250 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 5: Things, you know what I mean. 251 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: But even that's changed, Yeah, I mean I think about it. 252 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 5: It's not what it used to be, but it's still 253 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: a ton of data. 254 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: Like we don't do that. I don't think they do 255 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: the Wonder look anymore. Yeah, because it was deemed that 256 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: it was unnecessary or it didn't have any applicability to football. 257 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: So I understand what you're saying with it. I just look, 258 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: it's a different organization than when I was there with 259 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: Randy Lerner right, who was Al's son, who inherited the 260 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 3: team and then eventually sold the majority of stake to 261 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: Jimmy Haslm. And I've always said this about like Jimmy Haslm, 262 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: the has them family, Like they care enough to dump 263 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: a bunch of money into it, and they're obviously actively 264 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: involved trying to get this right. But sometimes I think 265 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: it's really hard or to tell people who care the 266 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 3: most that like you might be the problem more part 267 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: of the problem, and you might have to step out 268 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: of the way, and maybe they don't want to do that, 269 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: you know. I think other organizations face this. Jerry Jones 270 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: is probably sitting in the same situation right now. The 271 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: difference is like he does have Super Bowls to look at, 272 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: and at one point point two for a success for 273 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: the Browns, there's nothing and this team, because they keep 274 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: knocking everything down and building back up again. It feels 275 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: like they've never really gotten past the the expansion expansion 276 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: franchise that they really were when they came back in 277 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: ninety nine. Like they keep tearing it all back down again, 278 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: and it's like it's they're still the expansion franchise they were. 279 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: It just seems like even when they do have a 280 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: little bit of success, they'd never parlay it like they 281 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: had that year in twenty twenty and just couldn't get 282 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: back to it. And Stefanski want to Coach of the 283 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: Year that year. They want you three right, yeah, And 284 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: it's like they just they couldn't get back to it. 285 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: And then even when you did have an answer in 286 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: place at quarterback, when you weren't sure about Deshaun Watson 287 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: and his availability and you saw how good Joe Flacco played, 288 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: they didn't bring him back. It's just like there's just 289 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: moves along the way that that don't make any sense. 290 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: That it just doesn't. It just doesn't appear. But listen 291 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: to Miles Garrett, your guy. And as long as he's 292 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: making a boatload of money, you know, he made a 293 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: big stink about it last year. He wants to go 294 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: win a Super Bowl. But you know, then all of 295 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: a sudden they offered him a big fat check and 296 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: he took it. And the rest is the rest. But 297 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: the analytics are working somewhat. I mean, he's a pro bowler. 298 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: He's probably going to be a defensive Player of the Year. Yeah, 299 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: and I know the dog could be trained to do it, 300 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: but that's what it is. And then you got Shador 301 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: Sanders as well. I mean, he's you know, you're you're 302 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: racking up, you're building up your your roster with with 303 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 4: pro bowlers. I think it was a little rude. That's 304 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: pretty rude what you did there. 305 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: I know what he's doing. He's just trying. He's trying 306 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: to make fun of my Cleveland Browns. And look, I 307 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: hope people understand, like I love the Brownies. I do, 308 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: like I just I grew up a fan. I got 309 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: traded away from that I wanted, you know, I was 310 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: still shocked that whole you know, how it went down, 311 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: And it's just it's tough because you want them to eventually, 312 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: you know, accomplish what you see other organizations, like the 313 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: whole Indiana run is inspiring, and you're like, all right, 314 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: Vidiana can do it. Why can't Cleveland do it? Like 315 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: Cleveland can do this, you know, and then you you know, 316 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: then the season starts and it just doesn't work out 317 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: that way. 318 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: But it's Cleland. 319 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: But it's also I mean Levars, you know, like he 320 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: knows that you and I don't have dogs right now, 321 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: so he made sure. 322 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: To bring that back around. I did not know that. 323 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: I thought Boxer. 324 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: No, no, we lost her last actually is unfortunately, but 325 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: my wife's birthday that was. That was a bad scene. 326 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: Man. 327 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: It's it's tough losing. I mean, we're unfortunately or fortunately 328 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: going to get another one here in a few months. 329 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: So that's how it works. We're stepping right back into that. 330 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: That's how it works. Not me. 331 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even want one, but here it is. Mister 332 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: Styx is in the building. There you go, not me. Well, 333 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: you're selfish. Once he was done, he was done. 334 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: Well yourself, yeah, Jonas, you are selfish though about that. 335 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: I'm just not a whore. Oh I'm not a dog 336 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 4: like yourself. 337 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: One's out another one, and Jonas, that's deflecting. You're deflecting, 338 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: Like what if your kid wants to experience the joys 339 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: of having a dog. 340 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you can move in with somebody else, 341 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: have fun. He's not going to clean it up. I 342 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 4: can't even get the kid to clean up his monster trucks. 343 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: You think he's gonna clean up a pile of craft 344 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 4: in the backyard not happening. Say, hey, selfish dude, man, 345 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 4: that's fine, not a slut, and my dog knows that. 346 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I. 347 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: Mean you're just using all the Lorraina's words today. Huh 348 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: like got Lorraine? 349 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 5: Ain't here? Shouts out the Lorraine and we got marked. 350 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 5: What's up? 351 00:17:59,040 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: Mark? 352 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 5: But the guy? 353 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: Okay, by the way, have you ever wiped the piece 354 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 4: of dry toilet paper and wondered? Is this as good 355 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: as it gets? 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Listen to The Fifth 376 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 7: Hour with Ben Mather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast 377 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcast. 378 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 5: Mark is that Club Nouveau? 379 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Mark was as your jam back in 380 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: the day. 381 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: Everybody's jam, right, that's right. 382 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 5: Mark talked to him. 383 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: Mark driving that t top Camoro, you know, popping his collar, 384 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: a little denim jacket on on. 385 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 4: The south side. 386 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: That hair is standing up about a foot off his head. 387 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: God only knows what's in that thing. Oh yeah, we 388 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: Uh I had the girls watch Muddy Ducks last night, 389 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: and uh I forgot how obnoxious the Hawks coach Rose 390 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: coach Riley and how every time he talked trash to 391 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: Emilio Stevez or Gordon Bombay, he kept popping his collar. 392 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: I was like, what an a hole? There's something about 393 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: that move that just it does make you look like 394 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: it just a clown for popping your collar like that. 395 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: That movie came out in ninety. 396 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: Two, nineteen ninety two. Actually, yeah, it was an interesting cast. 397 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: I was looking through I noticed Jesse Smolette. 398 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 4: Was was oh wow, was he really right? 399 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, he was one of the child actors juicy. 400 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: Was he the guy lying on set or was that 401 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: somebody else? 402 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 5: Oh? 403 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 4: No, later on, I didn't know if he always did that. 404 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 5: What do you mean? I don't know. 405 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 4: Didn't one of those guys on the like one of 406 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: the I think it's uh, there was some report that 407 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 4: came out recently. One of those guys is just a 408 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 4: full blown drug addict. I mean got meth coming out 409 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: of his eyes. 410 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say, like, oh, he became 411 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: a doctor and he's actually saving lives. 412 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: No he's not. He's like he's a drug addict. So true, 413 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 4: Like the story came out, guy's got a mouthful of dice. 414 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: He's done so much Crystal myth. 415 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: You got problems Jonas, all right, you'd like wait for 416 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: them to just they're almost ready to fall off that Cliff, 417 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: and you're like, here, hold on, let me just give 418 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: you a quick little shove. 419 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 4: Let's get to it. What are we waiting for? Come on, 420 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 4: we don't need to, you know, taxi around the runway. 421 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: Let's go, let's go. Yeah, we've got to move on. 422 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: By the way, this show sponsored by DraftKings sports book 423 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: and official sports betting partner of the NFL and NBA. 424 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: And right now use the promo code two pros to 425 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 4: claim your special offer at DraftKings. Again, that's Promo Code 426 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: two pros at DraftKings. The Crown is yours. Matt Naggy 427 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 4: was the offensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs. He's 428 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 4: now not the offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs. 429 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 4: Eric the enemy is OK. And it's kind of interesting 430 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: because he was up for the Tennessee Titans job. It 431 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 4: looked like he was going to get it, and then 432 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: Robert Sala swooped in last minute and they gave it 433 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 4: to him. And so now now Matt Naggi's like interviewing 434 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: to be an oc in places, and so it's like 435 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: he was up for head coaching opportunities. Brown's by look 436 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 4: at him, maybe you could do worse. But Andy Reid 437 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: kind of explained the situation surrounding Matt Naggy and why 438 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: he's not the OC in Kansas City anymore and wanted 439 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 4: to pursue opportunities elsewhere. 440 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: We left at that symbol. 441 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: That's what I would tell you. 442 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 8: I mean, I know there's everybody's gonna question everything, and 443 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 8: I get all that, and it's understandable. But Matt and 444 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 8: I have a great relationship, and here he sits, and 445 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 8: before the season, you know, right before the season even 446 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 8: started here, I knew that he wanted an opportunity to 447 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 8: have his own show. He's been a head coach, he 448 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 8: was Coach of the Year. I mean, this guy, all 449 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 8: the things I've said about him, I still feel about him. 450 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 8: There's nothing different there. He deserves to have a head 451 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 8: coaching job, and if not, it gives them, it gives 452 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 8: them an opportunity to go out and. 453 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 3: Do a thing. 454 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 4: So that was Andy Reid explaining the decision not to 455 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: bring Matt Naggie back. It just seems off, like there 456 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: just seems something seems a little strange about the whole thing, 457 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: Like was there a falling out? Was he the fall guy? 458 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: Because of the performance I mean, Mahomes got, you know, 459 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 4: injured late in the season, but it just seems it 460 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: seems a little strange that he goes to pursue opportunities 461 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: and there's no place for him when he comes back, 462 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: or if there was even opportunity to come back. Just 463 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 4: seems a little off. 464 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's not the first time that ot in oc 465 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: who went to look for more opportunities that didn't work out. 466 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 5: Nikes, Well they just brought him back. 467 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think there's it's hard to 468 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: sell yourself on the idea that you can be this great, 469 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: creative offensive guy when it's not your offense. And I 470 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: think that that's something that Matt Naggy obviously has accomplished 471 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: at some point because he was coach of the Year. 472 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you know better than else, Johnas you're a 473 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: you're a Bears fan. You didn't have that one outlier 474 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 3: year and then after that it kind of all all fizzled. 475 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: And I think that's the hard thing is, you know, 476 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: he's trying to revamp his brand, his name image to 477 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: become a head coach again. I think the toughest thing 478 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: for someone in Matt ma Agge's position is to have 479 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 3: been a head coach and to have run his own show, 480 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: like literally not just offense, but like the entirety of it, 481 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: and then come back to have to work for someone else. 482 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: So granted, somebody's familiar with someone who's had success with 483 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: I mean, heck, they won a Super Bowl together, you know, 484 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: in this second stint, but you also have to think, like, man, 485 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 3: there's you know, maybe I'd like to be with my 486 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: family more, maybe I do this different that different, but 487 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: it's not my show, so I can't make those changes 488 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: like he's experienced at firsthand being a head coach. So 489 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: I think having that perspective after a while would probably 490 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: be frustrating to now want to go on and do 491 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: your own thing. I mean, Mike Kafka, for example, who 492 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: was on this staff, was thought a very high I 493 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: ended up moving on to be with the New York 494 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: Giants as their OC, and I think he was viewed 495 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: as a guy who was maybe like a kind of 496 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: OC and waiting there. And you know, quite frankly, there's 497 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: a reason why they made him the interim head coach, 498 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: you know, after they fired Brian Dable, Like they thought 499 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: that much of Mike Kafka is kind of a young 500 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 3: offensive mind and and how that would look now It's 501 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: obviously hasn't worked out for him, but you know, they've 502 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: had a series of really really sharp offensive minds, but 503 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: almost similar to Bill Belichick with a lot of his 504 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: assistants moving on. It just doesn't seem like it's worked 505 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: out that well for any of them after they leave 506 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: Kansas City. 507 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: Especially because you know, you know, Andy Reid calls all 508 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: the place, and you know, nobody, nobody seems to have 509 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: to do anything of real importance once they, you know, 510 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: are working for Andy Reid. So I would get, I 511 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: would get why they wouldn't have success elsewhere, right, boy? 512 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 5: I mean, isn't that like kind of the book? 513 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: I mean, well, I think Patrick Mahomes has something to 514 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 3: do with it. 515 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 4: Matt Naggy had one lose uh. 516 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 3: Previous conversation. We were we were. 517 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 4: Matt Naggie won Coach of the Year. He had one 518 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 4: losing season in Chicago, made the playoffs twice. Pretty decent 519 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 4: run all things considered for a franchise. It's been bad 520 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 4: for a long time, and he that's got to be 521 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: a pretty demoralizing situation to be like, all right, I'm 522 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: leaving Kansas city, But don't worry, I'm going to go 523 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 4: be a head coach in Tennessee. And then come to 524 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 4: find out Robert Sala is in the building as well too, 525 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: and they just go with that guy instead of you, 526 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: and now you're looking for offensive coordinator Roles. 527 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. But but okay, take us to the consideration, all right. 528 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: If he's not calling plays like he wants to go 529 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: somewhere else and read talked about this extensively, like to 530 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 3: actually run his own offense, and if he ever gets 531 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 3: a head coaching job, he probably needs to do that 532 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: again to prove that it's him, to prove that's everything else. 533 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: So like, I completely understand it, because there's some guys 534 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: who like Brian Flores, who had signed a you know, 535 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: extension as defensive coordinator, but you know, he's still kind 536 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: of looking or out there at least for some of 537 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: the head coaching jobs. And there's other people who fell 538 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: in that. Carara and Mike McDaniel at one point had 539 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: the same thing with the Chargers still head coaching candidate. 540 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 3: But if he's not, he's going to be the Chargers OC. 541 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: Like those guys are are calling the players, they're running 542 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: their show. If you're not doing that the place you're at, Like, yeah, 543 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 3: you probably want to try to go find a new 544 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: home elsewhere where you can start to build that back 545 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: up to be a head coach. Once again, I mean, 546 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 3: that's ultimately what it's all about, is it not. 547 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you have those those opportunities, you know, 548 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: it definitely is to build up to be a head coach. 549 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: It's interesting because to have the even the opportunity to 550 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: have that type of conversation, you would have to assume 551 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: that that they're having success, like oh, I want to 552 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: be in a place where I can run my own offense. 553 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: That means that you're anticipating that you're going to have 554 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be a head coach. So if you're 555 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: in that type of position where you can maintain it 556 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: that way and you can have that type of perspective 557 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: on it, then absolutely have at it. 558 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 4: You know, this is one of the things when LeVar 559 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: brought this up. There's only thirty two of these jobs, 560 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: so you know, take the job. 561 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 9: There's bland and that's crazy, and that's and that's that 562 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 9: is because you've seen names like Kafka was a guy 563 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 9: that you mentioned. 564 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 4: You know, was being interviewed for jobs. Who are like 565 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 4: guys like Joe d Philippo was being interviewed for jobs. 566 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: There's like these coordinators that are up for jobs, and 567 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, like Bobby Slowick was up for 568 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: head coaching vacancies, And I just wonder, like how small 569 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: is that window to get an opportunity? And yeah, look, 570 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: if you take one and it flames out, you know 571 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 4: that that sucks. But at least you got your chance 572 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: to be a head coach. And so I do wonder 573 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: about some of these guys, will they ever get this 574 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: close to being a head coach again? Like will Mike 575 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 4: Kafka ever get an opportunity to be a head coach again? 576 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: Like to be to get serious consideration and get an opportunity. 577 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 4: If a guy like Matt Naggie, who was Coach of 578 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 4: the Year and had a pretty good run, you know, 579 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: gets gets passed up by Robert Sala, who wasn't very 580 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 4: good in New York with the Jets, it just it well. 581 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: I mean, are we are we comparing both their ten 582 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: years as head coaches? Is that what we're doing? 583 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I would say Naggie had more success than 584 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 4: Robin I'm not going to hold the way Robert Sala. 585 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: I'm not going to hold him in contempt for not 586 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 4: having success in New York. I think that's it's it's 587 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 4: unfair at this moment to hold any competent coach that 588 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 4: goes into New York. 589 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 5: And for what it's worth, Cleveland. 590 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: Too, I mean Cleveland too. 591 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't have no horror feelings for Stefanski at all. 592 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: The Jets will be hiring a new head coach next 593 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: year at this time, so maybe Naggi will get that. 594 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: Joh, we don't know that. I don't know they don't 595 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: turn it around. 596 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, Aaron, how many coordinators has he 597 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 4: fired so far? Aaron Glenn's there's been a lot of 598 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 4: changes on staff. 599 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: After one year, their Madden ratings weren't good, so they 600 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: had to had to work on that. Yeah. I just 601 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: I think we're getting to a point where there's there's 602 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: some coordinators who are super concerned about, you know, that 603 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: one shot that they do get taking it and then 604 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: it's not working out well because then you find yourself 605 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: in Matt Naggy situation where you go to organization that 606 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: I mean he went to the playoffs twice, he was 607 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: Coach of the Year once. I think he has above 608 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: five hundred record, so it is a bit odd he's 609 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: not getting some of those jobs. Maybe he doesn't interview well. 610 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: You know, people had said that about Eric Enemy when 611 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: he was interviewing for different head coaching jobs. So maybe 612 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: it's something they're doing that's not preparing. I mean, and 613 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: that's the one thing you could say about every New 614 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: England Patriots assistant that left Bill belishek is do they 615 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: interviewed well? Because every single one of those guys got jobs. 616 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: When they stepped in the room. It was impressive their 617 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: football knowledge, their game planning, how they prepared. I mean, 618 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who you're talking about. They all went in, 619 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: they interviewed, knocked it out of the park. So I mean, look, 620 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 3: we make a big deal about you know this stuff, 621 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: but I think in the interview room it matters because 622 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 3: if I'm one of those owners and I'm asking these 623 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: guys like why you did this or why do you 624 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: do this, and you don't have a strong reason for 625 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: doing it, and you're kind of saying back, well, this 626 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: is how Andy Reid wanted it, you know, this is 627 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: how I do a different, But this is why we 628 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: did what we did. That doesn't make me feel as 629 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: reassured that I'm hiring a guy that's gonna know what 630 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: he's doing with his own offense, with his own team 631 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: and the culture and everything's trying to build. By the way, 632 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: look ahead. 633 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 4: What I was gonna say, I did just finish your 634 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: dog because Patty Speaks had a had some information for 635 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 4: us on something. What do you got to Patty Speaks? 636 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 10: So I actually have the number of staff that was 637 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 10: fired from Aaron Glenn's coaching staff. It was six guys six, 638 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 10: two of them on offense, the rest on defense. 639 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: Hey you know, mhm's everything going fine, but a disaster. 640 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: QV coach being one of them. 641 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: Gone. 642 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a lot they gotta fix. That's the 643 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: bottom line. I mean, they got a lot they gotta fix. 644 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm curious as to who can do it. 645 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 3: I know, I know I shouldn't do this, but I'm 646 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: gonna do this right now, all right. Like I was 647 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 3: just thinking about watching the Muddy Ducks and just how 648 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: like that team was nothing before Emilio Estevez got there. 649 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but then, really, really, when you think about 650 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: what Emilio Estevez brought to that Muddy Ducks team. Then 651 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: he just bought them new skates in a uniform and 652 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: equipment and stuff. Like if they didn't have Banks, if 653 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: they didn't if he didn't find the rule that Banks 654 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: should have been playing on their team the whole time 655 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: because he lived in their district, that team wasn't worth squat. Okay, 656 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 3: and a couple of guys stepped up. They showed their 657 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: natural talent because they actually started practicing. But outside of 658 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: his law firm basically sponsoring that team, Bombay didn't do crap. Okay. 659 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 3: I mean, Hans probably didn't as much as Bombay did. 660 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: It's all about the talent. It's about the players. Once 661 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: they got Banks Fulton, you know, they started actually winning 662 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: and the whole team started like realizing, oh, actually we're 663 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 3: not that bad. We're pretty good if he played together there. 664 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: But I don't know, man, I just think at the 665 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: end of the day, when you've got Patrick Mahomes and 666 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 3: you've got Tom Brady, when you have, like some of 667 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 3: these teams, a ridiculous talent, like if you're a coach, 668 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 3: makes your job a hell of a lot easier. 669 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: So what I'm talking about, I think it's kind of interesting. 670 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: Nobody wants that job, like it's interesting. 671 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 4: They just don't want to have to fill out a questionnaire, 672 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 4: you know, they don't want to do you think? 673 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: What do you think bothers? In the most the questionnaire, 674 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 3: the essay, the personality test, like have to answer questions 675 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: about your feelings or your emotions, like what do you 676 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 3: think bothers? People know? 677 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 5: Answering feeling? 678 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 3: Answering questions about your feeling? 679 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 4: What is a personality test? What is that? 680 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: LeVar does these like every year, right, I just did 681 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: one yesterday. 682 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 3: They say, like, LeVar does this stuff in his spare 683 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: time because you're trying to get in touch on himself. 684 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 10: I do. 685 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: It? 686 00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: Asked you questions like, you know, like do you are 687 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: you a pro bowler? Are you okay being by yourself? 688 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: Like are you like do you find yourself relying on 689 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: relying on other people support? 690 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 5: Like stuff like that. That's like those are real questions, 691 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? 692 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: Like that it might sound weird, but depending on how 693 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: you answer the question, like it's like five is strongly agreed, 694 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: one is strongly disagree, you know, like stuff like that. 695 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: Can't you just get one of those magic eight balls 696 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 4: and just shake it turn it up eight ball a 697 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 4: ball like a real one. Yeah, like a magic eight ball, 698 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 4: you know, you like you shake it and then you 699 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: turn it upside down to know where you were going 700 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 4: with that? For I mean, man, I mean so showt us. 701 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 4: I'm not a Skier's not my thing. By the way, 702 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 4: it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 703 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio. Up next, though, We've got a 704 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 4: brand new looking football for you, and it's right here 705 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 4: on FSR. 706 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 707 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 708 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 709 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 710 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, 711 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 4: LaVar Arrington, you need help, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with 712 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 4: you help coming off top of the next hour a 713 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 4: little over ten minutes from now. The football continues and 714 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 4: the football discussion continues right here on FSR. The hell 715 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 4: is this mark? 716 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 5: What is it like? 717 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 3: Were we in line waiting going a ride? 718 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 4: It's what we just talked about. What mighty ducks? Is 719 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 4: it really? 720 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? You wouldn't know because you don't watch movies with 721 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: your son. 722 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 4: That's not true. We watched Back to the Future on 723 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: Friday night and then you kick the dog out. 724 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: Weird movie to watch with your kid. 725 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 4: I know, I don't know why it was on. And 726 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 4: I said, you want to start this from the beginning 727 00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 4: and we. 728 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: Will returns out halfway normal. And that's gonna be impossible 729 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: with you as as. 730 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 4: Dad, he's already halfway going. Uh. I don't want to 731 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 4: say that. I don't want to alienate that's side of 732 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 4: the family. 733 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 2: Oh. 734 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 4: By the way, be sure to check out our brand 735 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 4: new YouTube channel for the show. Just search two pros 736 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 4: FSR on YouTube again. That's two pros FSR. Be sure 737 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 4: to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there at the 738 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 4: thumbs up ic on and comment away. Let us know 739 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 4: who on the show you agree with, who you think 740 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 4: is completely wrong. Check out our new channel on YouTube again. 741 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 4: Just search two pros FSR and subscribe. You know what 742 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 4: I think it is what it's just, it is occurring 743 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 4: to me that there's one football game left. So I 744 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 4: don't know about you guys, but get ready because if 745 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 4: we don't have some juicy, interesting off season NFL storylines, 746 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 4: you got NBA, which is a disaster at times. You 747 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: got college basketball where they're letting forty five year olds play, 748 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 4: and you got Major League Baseball, in which the Dodgers 749 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 4: just keep spending more than everybody else and dominating the sport. 750 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 4: So we're gonna need some juicy NFL storylines to pop 751 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 4: up here, and so I think that's what's gotten me 752 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 4: a little bit on edge recently. Okay, what about you guys, 753 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're ready for all this. 754 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 5: I'm just curious. Will Q pop up with another child? 755 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: That's that's our seasons. Seasons assisted told surprise visits of 756 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: visitors of New Quinn's to the family, and then you know, 757 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: we be having to figure out what the hell we 758 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: talked about him and his babies and him babysitting all 759 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: damn day. I mean, that was our material. I'm I'm 760 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: now that you mentioned it. Now I'm getting into a 761 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: bit nervous because we always had Brady as which is 762 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: our content. 763 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: A dog will be the only addition to our family. 764 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I just hope, I just hope I can 765 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 3: avoid some of the issues you've dealt with when you 766 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: had to pump the skunk issue. Yeah, the whole potty 767 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 3: train and all that, because that's yeah, I mean, it's 768 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 3: like adding another child to your fans. 769 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 5: What type are you getting, uh. 770 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 3: Kanye Corso, it's a massive. 771 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly what it is. Uh yeah, you're 772 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: probably going to have the same same issues. Yeah, yeah, 773 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: and there. 774 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 3: You know what's so great about our dogs though, they're 775 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 3: just there are bigger and better than Jonas's dog. Now, 776 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 3: granted it hasn't been. 777 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: A lie for a while, but yeah, Cane Corso is 778 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: a dope dog. I've had a I've had a Corso, 779 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: I've had a Presser, and my daughter has been pretty cool. 780 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 4: Though my Doug lived almost thirteen. That's a hell of 781 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 4: a run for a massive But it is weaygne four 782 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 4: hundred and fourteen pounds. 783 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, at peak, idiot. 784 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 4: I'm telling you. 785 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 3: It was like a VW bug with balls. Oh my god. 786 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: All right, I thought you said you got a neutered 787 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 3: You know, we talked about this. You didn't spend the 788 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 3: money to get them nuticles. You didn't put those the fig. 789 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 4: The was like vel crowd on or something like that. 790 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 3: Vel crowd and they just put him back in. They 791 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: give him some dignity. Just say you're taking away his 792 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 3: dignity when you take that away from. 793 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna have to dump that. 794 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: Why, I don't know. It sounded like something else I 795 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: can say, Dick on air. What did you think I said? 796 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 5: Mark, you did not dump me. 797 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 9: We're too close to the heart out. That's gonna Mark. 798 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 9: You can't. Mark, you did that. I blame you. 799 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 5: I blame you now. 800 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 3: No