1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 3: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: I did it because I was foolish. Listen to how 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcasts. 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 4: Guy, John Annick, Kenny Florian. 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: You want to podcast, great, say have some audio on 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: your website that nobody goes to. 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: Here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: I never know how. I never know how. I'm gonna 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: start the show pro the first time. My throat's been clogged. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: But uh, we just were not speeding on the Florian 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: Family Hour, and if TJ was rolling, we would have 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: had some really good content off the top and said 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: you get me choke it. It's episode two twenty six. 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: I think Anakin Floran podcast Monday November twenty five, twenty nineteen. 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Ken Flow does not know it's TJ DeSantis' thirty sixth 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: birthday today. What, First of all, how is he that 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: much younger than all of us? Isn't that crazy? He's 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: still a kid? Yeah, it's a kid, DJ, You're talking 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: like nineteen eighty five. Three. All right, happy birthday, dude, 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, awesome TJ's wait in 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: the birthday. Yeah, you've made it. Yeah, that's good. So 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: on the video side, I got my Ken Flow original 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: one More Round T shirt today. It was a little 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: dusty when we shook it off out of the closet. 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: One More Round, says ken Flow on the back. I 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: don't know that I'm gonna do the whole full spin 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: here on video, but uh, you know, we're trying to represent. 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm glad this was the day your wife walked in 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: and so she could see you know, just how deep 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: the loyalty runs when it comes to the captain of 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: Team Florid, And you know, I appreciate that. 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 5: The only question I have is it dusty because you've been, like, 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 5: you know, using it to dust up around the house. 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: Is it a rag? Is that what we're talking about? 41 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: Or I actually have it in a glass frame in 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: my living room and I just had to take it out. Yeah, 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: we'll put it back in. Show you due, show you do. 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: So it's very rare, and we've talked about this on 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: the show before that the UFC gives you an opportunity 46 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: to breathe and sort of reset and honestly, for a 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: podcast like ours that is heavy on a recap and 48 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: a preview and predictions, to talk about whatever the hell 49 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: we want, right, I mean part of me, right, the weirdo, 50 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: and he just wants to sit here and say like 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: fuck fuck fuck. You know, I'm not gonna do that today. 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: But there was a big title fight announced since we 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: were last on the air, so we're going to talk 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: about that. Still no official word on Connor McGregor's impending return, 55 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: if it's January eighteenth in Las Vegas or not, time permitting. 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: Get to some possible opponents for Connor McGregor, and if 57 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: you were the matchmaker, what fight you would try to 58 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: put together. Floyd Mayweather and Dana White hanging out as well, 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: so we'll try to get into that. Gregor Gillespie is 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: going to join us here in about fifteen minutes as well. 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: But off the top, Kenny February eighth. We know will 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: be a pay per view, we know it'll be Houston, Texas, 63 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: and we now know that the headlining fight will be 64 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: John Jones and the undefeated Dominic Reyes. This has happened 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: exactly on the timeline that Don Reys thought it would, 66 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: you know, twenty twenty title fight, twenty seventeen UFC debut. 67 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: He's had some good challenges to get to this point, 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: not long on championship or five round experience, but your 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: thoughts on Reys Jones without a betting line and how 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: competitive a light heavyweight title fight that's going to be 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: here in three months. 72 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind to see Dominic Rays get one more 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: fight before this one against John Jones. I think anytime 74 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: you're facing one of the all time greats, if not 75 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 5: the all time great, the more experienced the better. However, 76 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 5: at this stage of the game, going undefeated, winning impressively 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: and consistently, I think you know it's still gonna be 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 5: a very very good fight. Again, that last knockout that 79 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: Rayse hit, I think it's rare that you can get 80 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 5: a two hundred and five pounder that can crack like 81 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 5: that and especially do that going backwards with that kind 82 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 5: of fainting, with that kind of looseness, with that kind 83 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 5: of comfort and ease on the feet, And I think 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 5: Raise is one of the few guys who can match 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 5: the physical abilities lengthwise height wise that John Jones has 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 5: Today's Ray. 87 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: Long Go man. 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Must be nice 95 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 3: to have that segment sponsored, right, I mean, the funds 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: just keep pouring in to Garden City. 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 6: I feel like a very important man right now. 98 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: John, Thank you so uh so a big weekend. I 99 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: always hesitate to pronounce Dennis Bazoukja or Bozuka's last name, 100 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: but what a huge knockout for for one of your guys. 101 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: For the listeners that don't know and didn't maybe see 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: the spinning back fist. I thought I was spinning back elbow. 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: Tell us about the highlight over the weekend. 104 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 6: My man, oh yeah, no, unbelievable. He had a great, 105 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 6: great performance. Bazook is one of the up and comers. 106 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 6: Uh and uh man, I thought, you know, the whole fight, 107 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 6: I thought, he uh he he corrected a couple of 108 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 6: things in his game that I think are really going 109 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 6: to help him for the future. But that was a 110 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 6: that was a great fight for him. He had great 111 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 6: sparing and uh, I think he's gonna learn a lot. 112 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 6: I think he did tighten up a couple of little things, 113 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 6: but those little things pay big dividends in the future, 114 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 6: I think. Uh, I really I got a good feel 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 6: from that fight. And obviously to spin I think it 116 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 6: was an elbow, but to spin elbow was was precious 117 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 6: and pretty. It's going to get and that was it. 118 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was picture perfect. It really was right. 119 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if he was intending to land with 120 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: the fist. It looked to me like he was intending 121 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: to throw the elbow, and uh, when it's clean, it's clean. 122 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, it could have been. 123 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 6: I didn't really Bob myself. I saw it that night 124 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 6: we were just so excited. I never even went back 125 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 6: whatever I saw on Instagram. But uh, you know, we 126 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 6: had a night of heavy drinking, so I'm not really 127 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 6: sure what I was. It was a good it was 128 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 6: a good time. Everybody was happy. The team did good. 129 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 6: We had one loss, but I think, you know, Charlie 130 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 6: Campbell bounced back from that. It was just more of 131 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 6: a lay and prey. And then we had Ryan Patrovitch. 132 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 6: He had first time he fought in five years. I 133 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 6: thought he looked great, great ground and pounds rush. He 134 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 6: was on point. Uh, he's only going to get better 135 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 6: and better. And Zuker I think just stole the show man. 136 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 6: Just pretty pretty technique. And even before that everything was 137 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 6: on point. 138 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 7: He was. 139 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 6: I think he was in the zone for that fight, 140 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 6: and I hope that's where he stays. 141 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: So right, a longo sits down at an empty bar, 142 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: what do you order. 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 6: About? I'm about a drinker at this stage of the game. 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: That's go to Tito's, Okay, sir, would you like something 145 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: a little bit a little bit more expensive? Yeah, tell you. 146 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 6: By the by the end of the night, I probably 147 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: would have taken a glass of rubbing alcohol. 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, It depends who's by. That's what it depends on. 149 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 6: Yes, exactly, Kenny, here's a there's a great goose with 150 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 6: a twist of line, sir, and I would have it 151 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 6: was toilet. If it was toilet water, I would have said, all. 152 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: Right, well there going to send you a plastic handle 153 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: of popof vodka. You ever heard of the Russian vodka? 154 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 6: Let me tell you something man that that I remember. Well, man, 155 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 6: they used to come in a plastic bottle. That's how 156 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 6: good was right? 157 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: Exactly right, yeah, joke. 158 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 6: I think I think like a gallon was like four. 159 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, No, I think I think it was 160 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: either that or Smeirnoff was the first of the first 161 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: drink I ever had was was pop Off vodka and 162 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: fruit punch gatorade together quite good. 163 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 6: Actually, you know, Skartoff was considered decent fact that the 164 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 6: pop Off was for. Yeah, that was I sure a 165 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 6: guy make that once and he was ringing out his 166 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 6: underwear for the list. 167 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: That's horrible. That is good. So uh so when John 168 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: Jones fight gets announced, that's big news to me. And 169 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: Dominic Garays is going to be the guy. You guys 170 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: just prepared for him. And most people would say and 171 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: I agree with this line of thinking that you finish 172 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: a guy like Chris Widman, uh, you are are certainly 173 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: deserved of a championship opportunity. I think he's worthy of 174 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: the title fight. I think it's coming at a pretty 175 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: good time in his career, maybe had like a year 176 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: or so more of seasoning. But how competitive do you 177 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: think Dominic rays is, you know, in three months time 178 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: against Johnny Bones? 179 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 7: Right? Uh? 180 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 6: Look, look, here's the deal I feel with John Jones 181 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 6: a super talented guy. Obviously, I mean, and I'm gonna 182 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 6: hold to this, the only guy that could beat John 183 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 6: Jones is John Jones. So if he's on point, he's 184 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 6: at that fight will prbably be easy for him. But 185 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 6: Kenny brings up a lot of good points. He really 186 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 6: punching going backwards. Isn't easy to get that much steam 187 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 6: on it. And Reyes, you know, his knock out over 188 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 6: Chris was phenomenal, and obviously he could get I say 189 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 6: it that weight, he can get anybody out. But you know, listen, 190 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 6: John Jones is He's fought the best of the best. 191 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 6: I'm not sure where Rayes fits into that picture, but 192 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 6: he is young, he is confident, and I think that's 193 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 6: really what makes him more dangerous is that he's got 194 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 6: nothing to lose and he can hit. So you know, 195 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 6: you never know. I me know you Houston Texas treated 196 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 6: us pretty good as the underdog, so it could be 197 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 6: something in the air and uston, but he definitely has 198 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 6: the ability to finish the fight. But I don't know. 199 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 6: Jones is really good and if he employed, you know, 200 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 6: if he gets on top of it, he starts to 201 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 6: impose his wrestling. He's a big dude. That's a that 202 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 6: that'll be a rough night. They have a lot of 203 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 6: preparing to do. 204 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: Ray. 205 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 5: You know John Jones's last fight against Ciago Santos. You know, 206 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 5: some people may have been critical of John Jones's performance. 207 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: Do you do you think that John Jones has lost 208 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 5: a step or or do you think it was just 209 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 5: kind of a tough matchup that night. 210 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 6: Look at this point, the way things are going with him, 211 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 6: he could just be bored. He's not really getting challenged. 212 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, like again, he's not He's 213 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 6: I don't feel like that could be wrong on this. 214 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 6: I don't feel like he's fighting frequently, But he's gotta, 215 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 6: he's gotta. I think he has to be worried, not 216 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 6: to get complacent and really think he could just roll 217 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 6: through everybody. And who knows, he might have taken Santo's lightly, 218 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 6: but we know he's a super talented dude. So I 219 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 6: don't know, Uh, you know, I don't know. I don't 220 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 6: know if he's lost a step, but he might have 221 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 6: lost a mental step in like preparation and being hungry. 222 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 6: I could see that happening before the other thing. I 223 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 6: think he's physically gifted. So I don't know. That's a 224 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 6: good question. 225 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: And where do you have Jones in a go conversation? 226 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: Do you have him as number one? 227 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 7: Uh? 228 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's right up there, you know. I you know, 229 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 6: I think when you look at a guy like uh 230 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 6: even like a Demitrius Johnson, it just seems like he 231 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 6: did everything flawlessly, like you know, and or seamlessly. 232 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 7: You know. 233 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 6: He went from the box and to the takedowns, the submissions. 234 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 6: Uh so I think, and he's fought some really good guys. 235 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 6: Jones is up there. Yeah, sure, he's he's gotta be, 236 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 6: you know. You know, he's got wins over DC, who 237 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 6: I think is a phenomenal fighter. The Gustafson fight was great. 238 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 6: I mean, he's basically cleared out the whole division, So yeah, 239 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 6: you gotta put him up there and Ray. 240 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 5: The most important question I'm going to ask you is 241 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 5: the heat back on in the gym at Ray Longo. 242 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 6: Oh man, you know, thank god they turned it on 243 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 6: when when we were in Atlantic City. Holy crap. I 244 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 6: don't even want to get into that, but basically, I 245 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 6: froze my ass off last week. The whole week, nobody 246 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 6: even wanted to close the gym. Everybody wanted to still train. 247 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: So I heard the heavy bags were like icicles. 248 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you something. Canals like a scene 249 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 6: out of Rocky four when the guy's in rushing in 250 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 6: the snow. It was. 251 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 7: It was bad. It was. 252 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 6: It was definitely not good. 253 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 3: Bad. Gosh. I'm raising my girls in Florida. They walk 254 00:12:53,640 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: outside when it's fifty nine yesterday and Sonny like it's cold, daddy. 255 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 6: So they they would have liked the gym, I could 256 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 6: tell you that. 257 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: So, uh, last thing from me on this whole John 258 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: Jones thing. And with respect to his schedule, he has 259 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: been more active Ray than maybe you think of late. 260 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: I feel like in the Thiago Santos fight, so much 261 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: was made of Maheta's leg, and not enough was made 262 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: of the fact that John's leg was compromised. You know, 263 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: some people are suggesting that his killer instinct is gone 264 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: and that the mean streak, the nastiness isn't there. And 265 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: I don't know that that guy will ever cease to exist. 266 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: I think that guy's always there. I think that Thiago 267 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: beat him up pretty good and he was a one 268 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: legged fighter too, and and it compromised his output. 269 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 4: You know. 270 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 6: So yeah, definitely no. Look that fight, you know, like 271 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 6: it probably could have won either way or whatever they 272 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 6: was saying. But uh, I don't know. I mean, he's 273 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 6: he's really good, even in that state, like he was 274 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 6: never really seriously, We've never seen him in any serious trouble, 275 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, where he's rocked and he's 276 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 6: got to come back, or you know, come on the 277 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 6: guy and he's toe sticking out. He's still thought that. 278 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, the guy, the guy has proven himself, 279 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 6: you know, so I really feel like he's just not 280 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 6: getting challenged. I mean, even look that Gustafuson fight was 281 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 6: was close. The first one. I would have probably even 282 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 6: maybe given it to Gestappuson. But you know, either way, 283 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 6: who cares. But that second fight, he made a statement, man, 284 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 6: he may I think that's see. I think that's what 285 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 6: he needed to shut everybody up and say, all right, 286 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 6: you think the first fight was close, and it was, 287 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 6: and I think he went out and did what he 288 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 6: had to do. And I think that's the thing. And 289 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 6: I think if he fought Thiago Santos again, I think 290 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 6: you would see the same thing. I think that would 291 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 6: motivate him enough. You know, I think he needs that 292 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 6: that doubt from everybody, and it looks like he you know, 293 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 6: he he relishes and being the bad guy kind of 294 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 6: and that's what that that I think motivates him more 295 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 6: than anything at this point, you know, is to prove 296 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 6: the critics wrong. So I say he fights Santos again, 297 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 6: that's a totally different place. 298 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: Ray Longo proven the critics wrong for quarter century. Now, 299 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: my man, Ray, appreciate the time as always anything else 300 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: before we let you fly? My men, Uh, do you 301 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: wish t J a happy birthday? Did you do that 302 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: for us? Wait? 303 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 6: Who whose birthday? 304 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: The producer of the show, TJ. 305 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm gonna have to do that after we get 306 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 6: off the phone. 307 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: I know he's got a pretty quick trigger. So we'll 308 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: let you guys go have that moment. Okay, he's gonna 309 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: sing and record it on his phone. It's gonna be brilliant. 310 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah. Maybe birthday thanks Ray. Yeah, maybe you 311 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: can cut that up. If I didn't talk over a 312 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: t J. Maybe you can get Bruce Buffer to record 313 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: something for you. By the way, you guys are pretty 314 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: tight right now, I mean unlimited unlimited recordings from Buffer. 315 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, alright, birthday you're gonna get You're gonna get sued 316 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: for that, Ray. 317 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 6: I probably will. Is this law you're gonna be efectively? 318 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: Always did happy Birthday? Yeah? 319 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 5: Yeah yah sah right, you'll be talking to he his lawyer, 320 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 5: no time. 321 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he patented happy Birthday. He did. He thankfully rated 322 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: not dropping its time on us. So the Jones Rays 323 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: fight has been made. We don't know what his next 324 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: for Israel. Out of Sonya. I feel pretty confident in 325 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: saying he wants to keep an active schedule, and there 326 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: are a couple different options if you're the matchmaker. I 327 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: know there are injuries and bohashin Ya. Paolo Costa has 328 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: some things he's dealing with, But big picture, I mean, 329 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: what are you doing with this guy who seems to 330 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: just be gold everything you put together with him right now? Man? 331 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: You know, uh with is he? 332 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 5: I think he really has the potential to become a huge, 333 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: huge star. Already is obviously, but definitely he can. I 334 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 5: believe he can definitely reach you know, Connor McGregor levels 335 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 5: if he plays everything perfectly and continues to entertain like 336 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 5: he is. 337 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: It's a tough one. 338 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 5: Obviously, we have Cannon here who's on an excellent win 339 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 5: streak right now. But if I'm Israel Asnya, to me, 340 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 5: that's not a fight that makes a whole lot of sense. 341 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 5: I want to make the biggest fight possible. I know 342 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: he was talking about Yol Romero, and I know Romero's 343 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 5: coming off a loss obviously to Costa that was controversial. 344 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 5: Some people believe that Romero won that fight. I actually 345 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 5: did think that Costa should have gotten the nod, but 346 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 5: it was certainly close. 347 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: But I do think. 348 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 5: Romero a win over a Yol Romero, a silver medalist 349 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 5: in the Olympics and everything that guy's accomplished in the 350 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 5: wrestling world and in the mixed martial arts world, I 351 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: think would be very, very impressive and would say a 352 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: lot about his ability to stop takedowns if he could 353 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: get the win. So I think that's a fight that 354 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 5: would be exciting. I think that's a fight that would 355 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: bring in a lot of viewers. That gets me hyphed. 356 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 5: That fight is very intriguing between Romero and Outisanya. We'll 357 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: see if they put it together. 358 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: And even more importantly, it seems to get out of 359 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 3: Sonia hype, which should matter a lot. Right You'd think 360 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 3: if anybody would be able to call their shot right 361 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: now and put a fight together, it would be the 362 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: last style bend all right now with us on the 363 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: guest line, way too much New York on the program today, 364 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: can't flow, by the way. But this is a good 365 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: man right here, certainly one of my favorite people in MMA. 366 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 3: The number twelfth ranked lightweight in the UFC, former four 367 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 3: time All American, two thousand and seven national champion representing 368 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: the famed Edinburgh University, the best fisherman and mixed martial 369 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: arts Gregor Gillespie is now with US live. Gregor, good 370 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: to talk to you, my man. How you doing today 371 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: on the water? Where right? 372 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: Come on, guys, I'm actually out on the boat right now. 373 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 3: What did you expect I'm telling you what a savage. 374 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: So when do you winterize these things? Is that the 375 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: right verb? Winterize? Is that good? 376 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 8: Yeah? 377 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: Winter rise? 378 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 8: All right? 379 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: So when you winter rise the boat, essentially you take 380 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 4: out the fluids from the motor so they don't freeze 381 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: into the motor and break the block, and you cover 382 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 4: it up with shrink wrap. So we actually have a 383 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 4: place that we store it. So we just train the foods. 384 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: We don't have to We don't have to shrink wrap 385 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: or anything. My buddy Chris Oakes, let's just put it 386 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 4: in one of his barns and uh away it goes 387 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 4: for the winner. But we won't do that until there's 388 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: a risk of it freezing. 389 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course not. Yeah. So, as most of our 390 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: listeners know, twenty four days ago, your your undefeated pay 391 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: per view debut thirteen and oh UFC two forty four, 392 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: your stuffer, your first career loss to Kevin Lee. What 393 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: are your thoughts now a couple of weeks removed on 394 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: those two minutes and forty seven seconds. 395 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: You know, my thoughts are relatively the same. 396 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 8: You know. 397 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 4: Obviously it's pretty emotional about it when it first spens, 398 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: when I kind of came to and realized what had happened. 399 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: You know, I haven't experienced a loss since wrestling, which 400 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 4: would have been I guess twenty eleven. That's a long 401 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: time ago. Thirteen wins is a good amount, and uh again, 402 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: you know it's any years since I've suffered a loss, 403 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: so I you know, obviously, in the back of your mind, 404 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 4: when you are a fighter and you're getting into the 405 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: higher levels of the opponents, you know, you always wonder, 406 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 4: you know, what if I do lose. And that's not 407 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 4: self doubt, that's just being realistic. You know, think could 408 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: happen again any fighter at any time, and you know, 409 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: when when you get to that level, you got to 410 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 4: because what would what would happen? How would I react? 411 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: What would I be like if, you know, if I 412 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 4: did lose, and kind of questioned, you know, but it's 413 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: been so many years since I've lost, and I think 414 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 4: I imagined myself being a little more mature about it. 415 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 4: And that's actually what happened. You know, obviously devastating, real 416 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: you know, obviously feel sad and upset and all those 417 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: normal feelings that you would be when you lose. But 418 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 4: you know, I didn't have any regrets as far as 419 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: how I approached the fight, how I trained for the fight, 420 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: how I prepared anything leading up to it. I think 421 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 4: we did everything perfect and everything normal, and it's just 422 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 4: one of those things that you know, I was finding 423 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: a really good opponent and he did some you know, obviously, 424 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 4: some perfect things, and that's the result. 425 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: Gregor, is there anything that you would change, knowing what 426 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 5: you know and how the fight went, of how you 427 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 5: would approach someone like Kevin Lee. 428 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 4: Sure. So, you know that's something that me and my 429 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: coaches and my friends and teammates have really discussed in depth. 430 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 4: And you know, obviously you get online and right after 431 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: and you see all these people saying the best wrestler 432 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: in the division or whatever, you know, like why aren't 433 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: you using your wrestling blah blah blah, and like, of course, 434 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: when you look back, if you know the result of something, 435 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: it's super easy to say I should have done this, 436 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: I should have been that. Even if you'd won, you 437 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 4: could look back and say, well, I should have done 438 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: this because this was a little harder than it should 439 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: have been. So you know, I was, you know, look 440 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: back and we were talking to my coaches and we 441 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: were talking, you know, my teammates when I have probably wrestled. 442 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 4: Maybe I would have forced a little more wrestling action 443 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: in the beginning, but it was really tough too. First 444 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: of all, Kevin Lead is a super good grappler, wrestler, 445 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, so that's not like 446 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: a foreign area to him. And also, his stance was 447 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 4: so low and he's obviously waiting for the takedown. He'd 448 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 4: been you know, coached really well as far as I 449 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 4: was concerned, and it wasn't the right time. For If 450 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 4: there's someone that knows when the right time to shoot is, 451 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: it's me. So anyone that tells me after the fact 452 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: that I should have shot more, I should have wrestled 453 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: more when they know the result is absolutely out of 454 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 4: their mind. That's something that's easy to say looking back 455 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: when you. 456 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 7: Know the result. 457 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: However, what if this, So I like to say, you know, 458 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: what if these situations, So, what if I would have shot? 459 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: You know, in my opinion, I was winning the exchanges. 460 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 4: I think I did some damage the striking. It was 461 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: obviously fairly even, but I thought I was winning slightly. 462 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: But what if I had taken a shot at that 463 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: point when he was low and he ate a knee 464 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 4: and got knocked out that way. Then everyone would have said, 465 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 4: you were winning the exchanges, your striking looked good. Why 466 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 4: did you go for the shot? He was waiting for it, right. 467 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: But then when they see that I got beaten the 468 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 4: stand up, it's so easy for them to say you 469 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 4: should have wrestled, right. But you know that's something that 470 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: I tried not to. You know, let bother me just 471 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 4: because it's hindsight. You know that cliche saying it's twenty twenty. 472 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 4: That's so easy when you know the result. 473 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 5: Gregor, everybody knows that social media knows better than a 474 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 5: professional fighters that. 475 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 476 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: Hey, listen, man, So where do you go from here? 477 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 5: Are there any options for you that the UFC has 478 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 5: offered at this point of the game. Are there any 479 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 5: fighters that you think would be a nice matchup? 480 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: And when are you looking to get back into the octagon. 481 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't really discussed that yet. We haven't even 482 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 4: really kind of looked at or thought about or discussed 483 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: the data or an opponent yet. You know, I want 484 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: another top ten guy. I'll say that obviously. I don't 485 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: think that loss is an indication that I don't belong 486 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: in the top ten. I think it's one of those 487 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: things that happened. I want to absolutely state this. I 488 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 4: am not saying that I, oh I got caught or 489 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: Kevin Lee got lucky. There was absolutely nothing lucky about 490 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: what he did. I will give him all the credit 491 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 4: in the world. It was a perfectly placed, perfectly timed, 492 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: perfectly executed kick and that's like what every fighter hopes 493 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 4: they could do during a fight. And I mean it 494 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: probably you know, I've watched it several times. It couldn't 495 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 4: have gone better for him. It was absolutely spot on 496 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 4: as far as distance, timing power, and you know, positioning 497 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 4: it was. 498 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 7: It was perfect. 499 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: There was nothing lucky for him, and there was nothing 500 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 4: unlucky for me. It was one of those things that 501 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 4: can just happen. 502 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 7: Again. 503 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 4: I'll go back to that previous question you asked, if 504 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 4: there's something I would have done differently. I mean, yeah, 505 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 4: kept my right hand up, you know, But that's too 506 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: easy to say, and it's harder to do after you 507 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 4: got hit with the right hand, you know, keep your 508 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: right hand up, you know. Well, yeah, of course it's 509 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: easy to say when you know the result, but uh, 510 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I don't know. I mean, as far 511 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: as an opponent or anything like that goes. Yeah, I'm 512 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: not sure a top ten guy again. I feel like 513 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 4: I really got to get back in there and uh 514 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: redeem myself sometimes this spring, you know, I'm on to 515 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: I think, you know, as far as I know at 516 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: this point, I'm still on medical suspension, so I'm sure 517 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 4: they want me to wait a little bit as far 518 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: as that goes. Just you know, I was out cold 519 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 4: for a minute or two, so I think some rest 520 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: is you know what they prefer. 521 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: Light wait. Contender Gregor Glessie with us here on the 522 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: Nicmploring podcast. So your Wikipedia page says at one point 523 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: you vowed that you were never going to fight. Is 524 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: that true? 525 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, absolutely so I remember. And I mean I 526 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: think you guys might be aware of this, but anyone 527 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: who's listening who isn't aware of this. There was a 528 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 4: point in my life where I was on a pretty 529 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: destructive path. And I was post wrestling in college, and 530 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: I was, you know, partying way too much, and I 531 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: developed a drug and alcohol problem and I ended up 532 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 4: in two thousand times. I ended up in a rehab 533 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: and then got it stuck. I've been cleaning sober since, 534 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 4: but at that point, I actually remember I was sitting 535 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 4: with an old friend of mine in the living room 536 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: of my ex girlfriend watching a frankiegar fight. I believe 537 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 4: it was frank Yegger and you should do this and 538 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: then you'd be so good at this. And at that 539 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 4: point I just finished, you know, my wrestling career, and 540 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: I literally felt like I just got out of prison. 541 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: You know, That's what I felt like, because at the time, 542 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: I was a kid, I was immature. I loved partying, 543 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: I love chasing girls and you know the things college 544 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 4: kids like to do that typically aren't athletes, and I 545 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 4: was really kind of into that lifestyle, and you know, 546 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: I have an addictive personality. I went too far and 547 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: I remember telling my friend they had shut the fuck up. 548 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to fight. I never want to compete 549 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: it and I just got done with this prison sentence 550 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: over the last four or five years in college wrestling, 551 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 4: and I literally said, I'm never going to compete again. 552 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: Stop pestering me. 553 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 7: I'm going to leave. 554 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 4: Man, I don't want to fight. I have no interest 555 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: in even competing anymore. So, yeah, at that point, that 556 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: was very true statement. 557 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: Incredible. All right, So two thousand and six, you become 558 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: the first Edinburgh freshman, a true freshman, to be an 559 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: All American. I believe you finished seventh overall. Then the 560 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: following years is sophomore and seven you win the national title. 561 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: What is your lasting memory about that NC DOUAA Tournament 562 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: Championship win in seven? 563 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 7: Oh? Man? 564 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 4: I mean some people have asked me, like, you know, 565 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: what was that? Well? Some people a lot of people 566 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 4: have asked me what that was like? And it's an 567 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 4: indescribable feeling. I would imagine I would equate it to 568 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 4: something similar to winning a UFC belt. But in my 569 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 4: heart of hearts, man, I have a tough time believing that. 570 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 4: You know, if or when, or however you want to 571 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: think of it, that I win the belt in the UFC, 572 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough to mat. It's the feeling I 573 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: had no seven when I won the national title. That 574 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: was my first four It was a sport that my 575 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 4: dad got me into and I have a very close 576 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: relationship with him. He got me into it. I loved 577 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 4: winning and seeing how happy it made him. That was 578 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: something that you know, the people that I love, I 579 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 4: love watching them be proud or happy or pleased at 580 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 4: my accomplishments, and I've never seen my dad so happy. 581 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: I think my dad's not a big hugger. He's not 582 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: a big guy, you know, show of emotions kind of guy. 583 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 4: And it was like one of the few times I 584 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 4: can remember I got like a really big hug for 585 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 4: my dad. It was it was super nice and I'm 586 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 4: you know that was that was my lasting memory of 587 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 4: that is I got a giant hug for my dad. 588 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: And that's not the same My dad wasn't love. He 589 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: showed his love in other ways, but that was something 590 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: that that well, I'll take away from that and never forget. 591 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 4: But what an indescribable feeling. And I'll run like I 592 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 4: beat the twelve seed, the four seed, the one seed 593 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: in the three seeds. I had four seeded opponents in 594 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: a row. I took out two of the guys that 595 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: were supposed to win. So it's just that it was 596 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 4: the stars lined up and that weekend just all came together. Man, 597 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 4: it was something really special. 598 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: I know you hate when I trot out this quote 599 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: from your former wrestling coach Tim Flynn, but Ken fully says, 600 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 3: when it's game time, He's never had anyone raise their 601 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: game more and when you think of all the wrestlers 602 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: who have gone through there under his nose, the fact 603 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: that Gregor was the guy, and that doesn't speak to 604 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 3: your training habits, right, It doesn't speak to that necessarily. 605 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 3: It just means that when the lights come on, you're 606 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: just a bad motherfucker and always worry, even when you 607 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: were younger. 608 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, So I'll elaborate a little on that. 609 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 4: So my training now is quite a bit different than 610 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: it was in college, unfortunately. And I try to tell 611 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: the guys that are younger than me, or guys that 612 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 4: I might be helping out, even wrestlers that I work with, 613 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: like do as I say, not as I did. Because 614 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 4: when I was in high school in college, I was 615 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 4: I always use this like an algae. I was dealt 616 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 4: a good hand, so I was like super naturally gifted 617 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: and talented, like light years ahead of most guys. And 618 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: the stuff I could get away with was absolutely ridiculous 619 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 4: as far as like not sleeping, not training hard, losing weight, 620 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 4: They're wrong way all the things you shouldn't do. I did, 621 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: you know, drinking during the season, and you know what's 622 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: staying up to all those things, eating macaroni cheese, instead 623 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: of like chicken and broccoli. You know, I was doing 624 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 4: all the wrong stuff and I'm still just somehow was 625 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: you know, I was the best guy in the country 626 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 4: one year, and you know when I was younger, I 627 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 4: didn't train as hard as I do, nign even close 628 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 4: as hard as I do now. I remember some of 629 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 4: the guys that were a little older on the team, 630 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 4: they fucking hated me. They're like, how the fuck is 631 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 4: this guy ever gonna make I can't believe. I remember 632 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 4: one guy was like, Coach Flinn, I can't believe you 633 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: gave him a scholarship. 634 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 7: He's horrible. 635 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: And this was before our first tournament of the year. 636 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 4: And I went out and I smoked the guy in 637 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 4: the wrestle off for the starting spot. I went out 638 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: and I won my first three or four college tournaments. 639 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: I was most out standing wrestler at a big tournament. 640 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: I won the Las Vegas Invite, and then you lost me. 641 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: In practice, I'd be getting like murdered by the third 642 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 4: string guy. 643 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 7: So I've always been I call it a gamer. 644 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: I'm a gamer. You know it's time to go. There's 645 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: just a feeling that you can't replicate in practice, and 646 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: that's not to say I don't work a lot hard. 647 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: I work really hard now and I try to make 648 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: practice as important as the fight. So I've matured quite 649 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: a bit in that way, and I think a lot 650 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: of that has to do with me kind of cleaning 651 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 4: up my lifestyle. As far as you know, I'm not 652 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 4: partying and such anymore. 653 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: So it seems like you got like at least some nieces, 654 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: maybe some nephews, but no children of your own as yet. 655 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: Is that accurate? 656 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: All right? So those girls, the little girls that are 657 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: on my Instagram all the time, that's Brooklyn, Lena, and Francesca. 658 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 4: They're not my blood nieces, but they're one of my 659 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: best friend Manny. One of my best friend is Manny. 660 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: He's the one that always brings me into my fights 661 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 4: the week of fight week, either comes with me if 662 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 4: we're flying, or he drives me in if it's local. 663 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 4: Those are his daughters and they're my family. They're not 664 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 4: my blood relatives, but they're my family. And I love 665 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: those girls more than anything, and you can see by 666 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 4: those videos they bring a lot of joy to my life. 667 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: See, you don't need children of your own, Gregor, right, 668 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: I mean, you don't need kids it's wrong and you can't. 669 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 4: You know, that's one of those things that it's I've 670 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: kind of been pushing off. If you know, I don't 671 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: know if you even have a girlfriend at this point. 672 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 4: I you know, I was dating a girl last year 673 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: and it was it was really nice. We had a 674 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: we went separate ways. So I'm not even involved with 675 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: anyone right now. So it's hard to imagine me having kids. 676 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 4: That's something that I would imagine that I would enjoy 677 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 4: doing someday. But you know, the clock is sticking here, 678 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: so I don't know if that will happen. If not, 679 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 4: I have some really good people in my life that 680 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: I have good relationships with their kids, so that might 681 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: have to suffice. 682 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: You've got plenty of time. Kid guy turned thirty three 683 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: two weeks ago. Yeah, he's got plenty of time. 684 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 4: And all right, you guys made me feel a little 685 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 4: better about it. 686 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 8: Thank you. 687 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 3: We are ancient. I'm sitting here doing a podcast holding 688 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: a baby monitor as our video viewers saying, and you 689 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: you're on a boat, So I want your problems, but hey, 690 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: we appreciate the time. Man. You know, obviously, your your 691 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: five fight finishing streak is not all that distant of 692 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: memory and look forward to the bounce back in the spring, 693 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: my man, and we appreciate your time and look forward 694 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: to seeing you down line. 695 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: I will see you guys sometime in the spring. I'm sure. 696 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: All right there it is the Greg gregor gillspie with 697 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: us here on the Anak and Florian podcast. So I 698 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: kind of shut changed you a little bit on Israel 699 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: out of Sonia there earlier. But yeah, I think it's Romero, right, 700 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that that's the fight. That's the 701 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: fight that I think has the steam with the athlete, 702 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: and I think that's the fight that probably is going 703 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: to be made. Still, no official word on Connor McGregor. 704 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: January eighteenth is the date, So if it's Connor, I 705 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 3: guess it'll be Vegas. I mean, I got a healthy 706 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: appetite to see him return. I think it's great that 707 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: other superstars have emerged in his absence, but I'm excited 708 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: to see the guy back. I think what's an interesting 709 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: wrinkle to this Ken flow is there are other athletes 710 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: on this fight card, Chaz Skelly, I think, fight Grant 711 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: Dawson and others. They don't know. If they don't know 712 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: the city you know, they don't know exactly what's going on. 713 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: I mean, not that it's not anything they can't overcome, 714 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 3: but the clock is ticket. You know, we're seven weeks 715 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: out or so. You know, absolutely and listen for me. 716 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 3: I would love to see. 717 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a bunch of guys that would love 718 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 5: to see with Connor McGregor. But obviously there's Dustin Pourier 719 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 5: they have been going back and forth. There's the Justin 720 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 5: gitch De fight, and of course there's a Donald Seroni fight. 721 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 5: All of those things have been talked about as possible options. 722 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 5: I think the most exciting one yet the most dangerous 723 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 5: one for Connor is Justin Gaechee. I think one that 724 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 5: would probably bring into the most amount of fans would 725 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 5: be his fight against Cowboy Seroni. And I think a 726 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: fight that would be very interesting. 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I mean, do you 770 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 3: need time to promoter with Connor? Can it come together 771 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: five weeks out and have it be okay? 772 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: Well? 773 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 7: I think because well, first off, hey guys, hey buddy, 774 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 7: you know, hey man, Hey guys, hey friends. I think 775 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 7: because of Connor and because they've already talked about this date. 776 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 7: I think it is doable. You know, I don't really 777 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 7: think there's gonna be too much of an issue promoting it. 778 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 7: I think any of the names you guys route there. 779 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 7: I was able to catch the end part when Kenny 780 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 7: mentioned Justin Gaechee. I really don't think Connor is going 781 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 7: to take that fight, although that would be a win 782 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 7: win for the USC because if he absolutely destroys Connor, 783 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 7: then Justin can become a megastar in the making set 784 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 7: up for that title fight, whether it's Tony or Habib 785 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 7: that wins. There's another name I want to throw out there. 786 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 7: I think Nick Diaz is someone that also would be 787 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 7: kind of interesting because Nate won't be cleared and I 788 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 7: just read that Nick mentioned and he's fighting really soon. 789 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 7: That would be a crazy syllable fight because I just 790 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 7: don't see him fighting masvid All anytime soon. But yeah, 791 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 7: to answer your original question, I think if you announced 792 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 7: Connor versus anybody five weeks out, it's more than enough 793 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 7: time for proning because of who he is. 794 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 3: So I know the MMA team at ESPN put together 795 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: a list of opponents. I think Donald Trony and Justin 796 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: gaetchie were on there, the winner of Kamara Ousman and 797 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 3: Kolby Covington. I think that's a real long shot at 798 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 3: this point. Jorge Mosfidalkabien Remago, mattof Tony Ferguson, Nate and 799 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: Nick Diaz both ian what do you think is the 800 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 3: most realistic fight? Compare? I mean, not what your dream 801 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 3: sequence is with a Justin Gaetschee fight, but I mean, 802 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 3: do you think the Serony fight at this point, seven 803 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 3: weeks out is the most realistic? 804 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 4: Yeah? 805 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 8: I would, I would have to. 806 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 7: I couldn't really see anyone else coming in out of 807 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 7: nowhere based on being cleared health wise. They've already talked 808 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 7: about this, like we just discussed it would pretty much 809 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 7: self promoted itself, you know, unless there's been a surprise 810 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 7: that Dana has been holding out on and that Connor 811 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 7: has been able to keep quiet as another opponent we 812 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 7: don't know of. Yeah, I don't really see. It doesn't 813 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 7: seem like Dana really wants Connor fighting at one seventy either. 814 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 7: If Mazardoal's too big, the Ouspin and Colby Covingten are 815 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 7: going to be way too big, you know, unless the 816 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 7: only reason why that fight with Nate Diaz is that 817 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 7: one seventy, because you essentially had two fifty five ers 818 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 7: who just didn't feel like cutting weight. They didn't care. 819 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 7: That's the only reason why Connor fights at seventy, which 820 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 7: he really shouldn't. He was tiny for that weight class. 821 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 7: So I do think if they do get is done, 822 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 7: unless there's an injury to Cowboys SERRONI weren't aware of. 823 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 7: I think it's gotta be cowboys, you know, And I 824 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 7: think that's the most sense for Connor right now. 825 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 3: Ken fellow Floyd Mayweather hanging out with Dana White courtside 826 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: Celtic's Clippers since we were last on the air. Floyd 827 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: Mayweather on Instagram. Dana and White and I are working 828 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: together again to bring the world another spectacular event in 829 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. I mean, Ken Flow's got boots on the 830 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: ground in Los Angeles, much more pop culturally inclined than 831 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: the other host of this podcast. I mean, you got 832 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 3: any theories? What can you tell me about Floyd Mayweather 833 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 3: and Dana White hanging out over the weekend? Man? 834 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 5: You know, well, obviously listen, I don't see him fighting 835 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 5: in a mixed martial arts fight. I just don't see it. 836 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 5: I think, get that out of the world. Yeah, Floyd's 837 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 5: way too smart. He's not gonna go undefeated for his 838 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 5: whole career. It spent so much time in the boxing 839 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 5: ringing to go out and lose in a mixed martial 840 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 5: arts fight. Okay, because you know, the number fifty guy 841 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 5: at one hundred and forty five pounds could probably beat 842 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 5: Floyd Mayweather if you just takes him down, right, So 843 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 5: let's take that out of the equation. I think it's 844 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 5: one of two scenarios. The first scenario, obviously, is the 845 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 5: rematch against Connor McGregor, them doing some kind of boxing 846 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 5: fight yet again, or it's the guy who beat Connor McGregor, right, 847 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 5: it's a Habib Nirmaga met off fight, some kind of 848 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 5: boxing match, and again for Habib. I think at this point, 849 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 5: if again you go, would you like one hundred million 850 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 5: dollars to compete in a boxing fight against Floyd Mayweather? 851 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 5: I think any mixed martial arts fighter would take it 852 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 5: in an instant, especially if you're a large one hundred 853 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 5: and fifty five pounder who could take some shots against 854 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 5: a much smaller guy in Floyd Mayweather, and you know 855 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 5: he hangs in there for let's say eight rounds or 856 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 5: he goes the distance, that's a win and his bank 857 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,959 Speaker 5: account would consider that a very big win as well. 858 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 5: So I think that's probably the direction they're heading. Is 859 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 5: a Habib Nirmaga met off Floyd Mayweather boxing fight in 860 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 5: twenty twenty. 861 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 3: But who knows. Again, I was surprised. 862 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 5: It's one thing to take a picture and have Floyd 863 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 5: and Dana White hanging out, but then taking that picture 864 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 5: and then teasing something that something actually going to happen, 865 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 5: that to me was a. 866 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 3: Little bit different. 867 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 5: I don't think they would make that kind of announcement, 868 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 5: both Dana and Floyd if they didn't have something signed 869 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 5: or almost signed. 870 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: Ian what do you think? 871 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 7: Oh well, I did read that one of them one 872 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 7: of the fights he wants to do is Manny Pacquiao. 873 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 7: I saw him mention that, I just man if he 874 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 7: is to jump, I know this is going to be crazy. 875 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 7: And I think I mentioned this to John Z before 876 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 7: and Kenny, maybe you'll get a kick out of this. 877 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 7: I always actually thought that if he were to jump 878 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 7: in the cage, I think his uh, you know, his 879 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 7: best chance and mm A fight would be against someone 880 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 7: like Connor McGregor, because I just think it would be 881 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 7: a boxing fight with MMA gloves. You know, Connor's not 882 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 7: known for his offensive wrestling or his jiu jitsu, so 883 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 7: I don't really know if how much of a threat 884 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 7: Connor would be. It almost would be like taking that 885 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 7: fight from the ring and put again in the cage. 886 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 7: Now I agree with you, it seems like Habib is 887 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 7: someone that's name has been floating around. However, if I 888 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 7: were to have my choice in a boxing fight, I 889 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 7: would like to see Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match 890 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 7: against Nate Diaz. I think Nate it was the better 891 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 7: boxer out of some of the fighters in the US, 892 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 7: like true actual boxing. You know, from what I've readen 893 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 7: what I heard, he does well against pro boxers and sparring. 894 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 7: You know, I just can't really see Floyd. He's got 895 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 7: to do something really dramatic here. I mean, I think 896 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 7: he's got more to lose. I guess he needs the money, 897 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 7: which sounds crazy too, because you know, you're going down 898 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 7: as one of the best boxers of all time, if 899 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 7: not the best defensive boxer of all time. Why risk 900 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 7: it on a non pro boxer, you know, unless you're 901 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 7: guaranteed to win, it's kind of weird, man. I I'm 902 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 7: curious to see where this really goes. And to both 903 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 7: your points, you don't just make that nap unless you 904 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 7: got something signed. 905 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 3: Well. 906 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would say this in regards to Connor fight. 907 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 5: If they do the fight, and even if they say, 908 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 5: all right, you know, Connor, we're gonna do basically a 909 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,439 Speaker 5: standoup fight, stand up only in the octagon. I think 910 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 5: Connor Knox. I think Connor Knox out Floyd with a kick. Listen, 911 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 5: I think he takes his head off with a kick. 912 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 5: That's what I think would happen. Boxing is a very 913 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 5: different range than kickboxing mixed martial arts. Again, it would 914 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 5: take him a very long time to be able to 915 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 5: deal with kicks, and I don't think Connor would just 916 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 5: oblige and try to box Floyd met where they were 917 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 5: four ounce clubs. 918 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: Very interesting. I really have an appetite for Mayweather and 919 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 3: Nake Diaz in a boxing setting, so hopefully that there's 920 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 3: some legs to what you're talking about there. Ian, So 921 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 3: we talked about John Jones and Dominic Rays big title 922 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 3: fight obviously Houston, Texas Big market. Very exciting fight coming 923 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 3: up at I guess it'll be UFC two forty six 924 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 3: or maybe UFC two forty seven. No betting line as yet, 925 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: Ian Parker, to what extent do you think Dominic ray 926 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 3: is a real threat here to Johnny Bones? 927 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 8: You know what, oh Man, I don't. 928 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 7: It's hard Jones mean, outside of his legal troubles and 929 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 7: the drug stuff, he's just been so dominant for so long, 930 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 7: and he's still so young, and he doesn't seem like 931 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 7: he's slowing down. He seems like he's getting better and 932 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 7: his games evolving, he's becoming more patient. Maybe his actual 933 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 7: patience was not the best thing against Giago Santos, where 934 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 7: he almost blew it. But Dominic Reyes definitely does possess 935 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 7: a threat here. He's mean, his athleticism at this size, 936 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 7: you don't see that very often. It seems like he's 937 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 7: got it all put together, even though he's still very 938 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 7: young in his career. All the tests you put in 939 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 7: front of him, outside of you know, Volcan it was 940 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 7: the mirror where that was controversial. He's dominated all the 941 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 7: other fights. So I've said to everybody, the one thing 942 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 7: Jones struggled with against Alexander and Gustus in the first 943 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 7: fight was the reach, and now you have someone with 944 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 7: reach and you have someone who moves to maybe match 945 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 7: him in strength and speed. I think that he better 946 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 7: not take dominant Grays lightly because this guy also he 947 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 7: just got that young gun, young warrior mentality that he's 948 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 7: on cloud nine. His confidence is to the roof, and 949 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 7: sometimes when you have nothing to be afraid of, that's 950 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 7: when it's you know, the scariest. It's like when they 951 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 7: have a veteran pitcher on the mound and the team 952 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 7: throws in a rookie to go to bat. It's because 953 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 7: they're not afraid. They want the glory, and that's what 954 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 7: Dominic rays is looking at. I think he has the tools. 955 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 7: It's hard to bet against John Jones until someone comes 956 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 7: in and actually does it, but yeah, I do think 957 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 7: Rayes poses a threat. Absolutely. 958 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 959 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 3: I think he's got a kicking game that could change 960 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 3: the complexion of the fight if he's able to land 961 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 3: and establish rhythm. There's a huge championship experience discrepancy, which 962 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 3: you'd never like to be on the wrong end of. 963 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 3: When you think about John Jones having six or seven 964 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 3: UFC title fights before Reyes even made a pro debut, 965 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 3: But I think Dominic Rays is in his fighting prime, 966 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 3: if not approaching it, And I don't know, just just 967 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 3: excited to see what the undefeated, you know, one time 968 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 3: NFL hopeful can do with the opportunity. On February eighth 969 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 3: in Houston, art possible strangweight title matchup between Jong Waite 970 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 3: Lee and Yoanna You and j I can't even bring 971 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 3: this fight up can flow without smiling, you know, just 972 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 3: when there's heat, when there's legitimate heat or even manufactured heat, 973 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 3: because I think in this case maybe it's just the 974 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 3: two women building the fight a little bit, but they 975 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 3: both have dug in on social media. Dana White's obviously 976 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 3: getting behind it. Who do you think is the betting 977 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 3: favorite between Jean Way Lee and Yoanna Yon jcheck can flow. 978 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 5: I think it's interesting this is the two most difficult 979 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 5: names in the UFC, are two of the more difficult 980 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 5: names of the UFC going out each other. For me, anyway, 981 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 5: I think you Wanna would be the favorite heading into that. 982 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 3: I think that. 983 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 5: You know, I don't see it being a huge takedown 984 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 5: threat for her. I give her a chance on the 985 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 5: feet against anyone out there I think this is her 986 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 5: chance to get a belt again into UFC, and I 987 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 5: thought she looked very solid in her last performance despite 988 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 5: that injury that she had to deal with. She's as 989 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 5: tough as they come, and I think now that she 990 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 5: has this shot at a belt, I think she's going 991 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 5: to be extremely motivated and going to trade very hard 992 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 5: for it. 993 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 3: And I think it's a perfect scenario for man. 994 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 5: I think she would she would definitely be the favorite 995 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 5: heading into this one. 996 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 3: And I'd imagine you've given this some thought as to 997 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 3: who would open as the betting favorite. I think it'll 998 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 3: be close. Despite how much time I spend looking at odds, 999 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 3: I'm not always great at forecasting what these odds are 1000 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 3: going to be. I do think that Jong Way Lee 1001 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 3: as the champion, given her winning streak, is going to 1002 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 3: get some consideration, maybe as a favorite, but wouldn't be 1003 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 3: surprised if the more public name Yo Wanna opened as 1004 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 3: a slight favorite. Ian Parker, I'll defer to your expert opinion. 1005 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 3: What do you think? 1006 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 4: Thank you? 1007 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think Kenny's wrong here. It's it's so hard. 1008 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 7: This one's really hard because the current champ knocked out 1009 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 7: andrage you know pretty quickly, and no one really. I mean, 1010 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 7: I definitely didn't expect that. So the people that are 1011 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 7: going to tell me that they knew it the whole time, 1012 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 7: you're fucking liars. But good for you anyway, you know, 1013 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 7: I want to say. 1014 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:09,439 Speaker 3: Yoana mys I'm sorry. I'm just kidding. I said, don't 1015 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 3: call the listeners liars. 1016 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 7: No, no, no, I was, I mean it was. It 1017 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 7: was a joking, playful liar. But it's okay. They will 1018 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 7: call me something ten times worse regardless, it's fine, and 1019 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 7: then they'll want me and TJ to fight again. So 1020 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 7: it's okay, we'll set that up. But uh, I think 1021 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 7: yo Wanna, I think Yo Wanna will probably be around 1022 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 7: minus one twenty five minus one thirty five to open, 1023 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 7: just because of her dominant victory. She looked amazing first 1024 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 7: time back in the weight class a little while to 1025 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 7: Kenny's point, while battling an injury, especially after all the 1026 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 7: weight cut nonsense that came into play. And she's the 1027 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 7: popular name she's and but I actually do like her 1028 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 7: in this fight. I'll even go out on the limit tennis. 1029 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 7: I'm it's nothing against the current champ, but Yoanna in 1030 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 7: a striking battle. I I don't ever put anyone against her. 1031 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 7: I think her takedown defense has gotten way better. You know, 1032 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 7: the pass the victory against Juanna is putting her on 1033 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 7: her back and holding her there, and the current champ 1034 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 7: has to strengthen the capability to do it. It's just hard 1035 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 7: to bet against Yoana when she looked the way she 1036 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 7: did against Michelle Waterson, and if she listened either. It'd 1037 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 7: be crazy if any one of these two fighters are 1038 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 7: plus one point fifty or more, because the value will 1039 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 7: be on either one as an underdog as long as 1040 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 7: they're in the plus category. 1041 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear that all right. Nineteen days out UFC 1042 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 3: two forty five, Max Holloway, Alexander Volkanowski, care to tell 1043 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 3: our listeners where your action already is? 1044 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 7: Right? 1045 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 3: Didn't you get a pretty good price on a fight 1046 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 3: that you like? 1047 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 7: I did. I love Max Holloway at minus one seventy five, 1048 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 7: so I placed a pretty heavy wager on Max. This 1049 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 7: reminds me of the fight against Ortega where people were 1050 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 7: looking at Max because of the illness or whatever was 1051 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 7: going on with him before that fight where he pulled 1052 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 7: out and then you know, after losing to Dustin and 1053 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 7: then beating Frankie. I still think people are looking for 1054 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 7: a reason for whatever, for whatever reason, for someone to 1055 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 7: be thrown him and Ken, he gave a really really 1056 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 7: good breakdown when we spoke last week. How you know, 1057 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 7: kind of reminds him of Frankie a little bit, you know, 1058 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 7: with the wrestling pedigree, and it just it seems like 1059 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 7: the same statures. I just cannot bet against Max Holloway 1060 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 7: at this weight class, you know, for in a five 1061 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 7: round fight when he's the better striker. This cardio I 1062 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 7: think will be better. Just takedown defense is awesome and 1063 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 7: he just doesn't stop and the championship experience. To your point, John, 1064 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 7: what you just mentioned the last fight with Dominic Ray 1065 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 7: as one that makes a huge difference here. And in 1066 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 7: my opinion, in the last couple of fights Volkanowski has won, 1067 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 7: he had to come from behind. Chad Mendez was beating 1068 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 7: him significantly and then he just gassed out and that's 1069 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 7: how he won. Max Holloway will not gas out ever. 1070 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 7: So for all your listeners out there that do like 1071 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 7: my picks, like my bets, I'm telling you right now 1072 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 7: this is like my wonder Boy play the line of credit. 1073 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 7: I love Max Holloway in this fight. I have no 1074 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 7: doubts anything about it. 1075 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ian Parker won't stop texting me about this Max 1076 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 3: Holloway price. I think he has more money on this 1077 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 3: fight than I have probably put down in the last 1078 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 3: five years combined. To be honest with our listeners, I 1079 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 3: mean we went full transparency. You know why lie to 1080 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 3: the listeners in right? 1081 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 7: I mean, no, listen, I look, I text you. I'm 1082 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 7: pretty open with you, just sometimes, you know. I mean, 1083 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 7: if you want to tell people what I what I said, 1084 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 7: that that's up to you. I just don't feel like no, I. 1085 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 3: Think we could stop it down there. I think was 1086 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 3: given him. Did you Uh, well, we hope you have 1087 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 3: a happy Thanksgiving, my man. We appreciate your contributions. Did 1088 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 3: you did you know it was TJ's birthday today or 1089 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 3: is that lost on you too? 1090 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 8: IDM not well, No, I was gonna say I didn't 1091 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 8: go on Facebook yet, but I don't know if we're 1092 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 8: friends on Facebook. 1093 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 7: For even a reminder there. I don't think Kenny follows 1094 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 7: me on social media. I don't know his birthday either. 1095 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 7: I'll wait for that. I'll tell Kenny my birthday, but 1096 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 7: TJ I wish you a happy birthday. Many more happy 1097 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 7: and healthy guys. I love this show. I always appreciate 1098 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 7: the opportunity to be on and uh yeah, Jonathan Knew 1099 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 7: want the extra food? 1100 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 4: You want to come by on Thursday? 1101 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 7: I'm buying stuff I don't cook. So you know that 1102 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 7: means he'll be good. 1103 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that means I'm coming over. Hey, Ken Flow, by 1104 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 3: the way, changed his cell phone number. Ian. Did he 1105 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 3: get the text of the new one or did you 1106 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 3: not get that? 1107 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 7: You know what? I think I'm coming out to LA 1108 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 7: next month. I'll just have to look him up and 1109 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 7: show him at the door and ask for the number 1110 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 7: in person. 1111 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 3: Check the Yellow Pages. Yeah, yeah, it's I think Santa Monica, 1112 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 3: maybe Malibu Kid. All right, Hey, happy Thanksgiving, buddy, have 1113 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 3: a have a great week. All right? 1114 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 7: See all right you guys do man take care? Guys. 1115 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 3: There he is Ian Parker every week here on the 1116 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 3: Anecmploring Podcast. I'm not going to his house though on 1117 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day, TJ. Don't worry, DJ, I gotta cheat on 1118 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 3: you show up at the Parker Residents on Thanksgiving Day. 1119 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 3: You know I'm still not sold on the wife Wendy anyway, right, 1120 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm not sure this guy going pick up the fucking 1121 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 3: kid today. So what's that tea shirt? I'm just going 1122 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 3: to say, you know that stupid to go hang out 1123 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 3: with Ian like on purpose. So it's a little bit 1124 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 3: of a Disney World thing, right. You gotta be real 1125 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 3: careful with your recreational time and how you spend it, right, 1126 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 3: you want to maximize that right now? I love Ian Parker. 1127 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 3: I'm just messing around, all right. Well, it is TJ's birthday, 1128 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 3: so he's got to get out of here, so I 1129 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 3: think we're going to stop it down there. Thanks to 1130 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 3: Gregor Gillespie, of course, Ray Longo, Ian Parker. If you 1131 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 3: are new to the show just because of the YouTube channel, 1132 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 3: we thank you for that. 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