1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. Wait any way, 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: what's happening here? What happened to the melotron? What are 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: we doing? Why is this sounding different? Well, listen, your 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: ears are not playing games with you. We are doing 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: things a little different today. We're bringing you a special 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: episode a Disgraceland, a sneak peek behind the scenes, a 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: preview of our upcoming season of episodes for you guys, 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: the faithful Disgraceland listener, the disco, and a primer on 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: all things Disgraceland. What this show is, what exactly a 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: melotron is? For our new listeners, which eight years into 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: this we are grateful to still be welcoming. So, as 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: you know this show, Disgraceland, it may have true crime 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: at its core, but it's also about great music, unlike 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: that music I've played for you at the top of 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the show. That wasn't great music that way, A preset 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: loop from my melotron called Jerry Lee's Dead Wife MK two. 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: I played you that loop because I can't afford the 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: rights to God's Plan by Drake. And why would I 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: play you that specific slice of North of the Border cheese? 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Could I afford it because that was the number one 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: song in America on February thirteenth, twenty eighteen, and that 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: was the day that we released the very first episode 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: of this podcast, the disgrace Land Podcast, an event that 24 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: introduced a new concept to the podcasting game, The Chocolate 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: and the Peanut Butter, the Fire and the Rain, Snoop 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: and Martha Martin and Lewis Lewis and Clark Kent, State 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: and state of the Art, State of Mind, State of Grace, Disgrace, 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Disgrace Land. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I'm talking about the 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: now unfuck withable combo of music and true crime. Because 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: I'm Jake Brennan, and this, if you haven't been able 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: to tell, is a special episode of Disgraceland. Okay, I'm 32 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: as inspired as I've ever been creatively, guys. And it's 33 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: because of the new episodes that we have coming up 34 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: in the next few weeks, actually throughout the year, but 35 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: in the next few weeks, especially just because I love 36 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: the musicians we're covering, these iconic, mythical, legendary artists. That's 37 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: not the only reason. It's also because these are some 38 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: of the more true crime stories that we've uncracked. The 39 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: first two. Specifically, I'm talking about new Disgraceland episodes on 40 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: Patti Smith and Grace Jones, and then also a couple 41 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: more episodes. One that delves into the insane ascent into superstardom, 42 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: followed by an acute descent into addiction with depeche Mode, 43 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: followed up by a dive into what really happened the 44 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: night Taylor Hawkins died and a look into who Dave 45 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: Groll really is. Dudes had a pretty shit couple of years, 46 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: that whole baby Mama thing on top of the loss 47 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: of Taylor. We get into that story in our Foo 48 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Fighters episode that'll be here soon as well. So to 49 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: the discos. You know there will be revealing facts in 50 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: these stories, revelatory tidbits unearthed from our research, presented with 51 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: edge of your seat storytelling that you just can't get 52 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: anywhere else, and all wrapped up in our award winning 53 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: sound design and scoring per usual for the new listeners. 54 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: If any of this sounds over the top, I assure 55 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: you that it's not until it is. Disgrace slams music 56 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: and true crime brand of storytelling isn't sensational, but it 57 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: is dramatic. Af Everything is based on deep research and 58 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: is properly sourced, often from first hand accounts detailed in 59 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: the autobiographies of these artists, but that only accounts for 60 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: part of the drama. The drama mostly comes from the 61 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: true crime aspect of these stories. I've been saying this 62 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: for years. Most musicians, most rock stars, hip hop stars, 63 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: country artists, so old jazz hads, whatever, punk rock dudes. 64 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what genre or from what scene they come 65 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: or came. Most musicians they're more like feral, narcissistic animals 66 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: than they are functioning members of society. And this is 67 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: exactly what makes them so damn interesting. I know, because 68 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: it used to be one of them, But I'm not anymore. 69 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm just a middle aged dad who reads a ton 70 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: and hangs out with his wife and kids. But back 71 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: to my point, musicians they're not like us. They've seen 72 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: and done things we never will, and they've had things 73 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: happen to them that, thankfully will never happen to us. 74 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: What things you ask crimes true crime? When we look 75 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: at the biographies of these rock stars through the lens 76 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: of true crime, which is all we do here, through 77 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: the lens of both the crimes they've committed and the 78 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: crime that have happened to them. Then we get a 79 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: peek into just how dramatic and bad shit crazy these 80 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: artists their lives are, and it makes for wild storytelling, 81 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: storytelling about rock stars with crimes involving not just murder, 82 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: but cannibalism, the occult drug trafficking and everything else you 83 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: can imagine. But back to the research. Deep research has 84 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: always been at the core of disgrace Land, and the 85 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 1: result is often not just bananas stories like the story 86 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: of big Lyrich, the hip hop star who ate his roommate, 87 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: or revealing facts like the UK crime wave that the 88 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: Beastie Boys inadvertently inspired. But a lot of times the 89 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: result is truths, hidden truths that are uncovered, Truths that 90 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: disrupt the popular narratives about our favorite artists that we've 91 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: been forced to accept, but that have been wrong all along. 92 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: Michael Hutchins from Inexcess did not die from auto erotic 93 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: asphyxiation like we were told. Charles Manson didn't kill because 94 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: he was obsessed with the Beatles. In fact, the entire 95 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: Helter Skelter true crime saga is mostly BS and Mama 96 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: Cass Elliot didn't die from choking on a ham sandwich. 97 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Let's chill on the historical fact shaming. Okay, this age 98 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: we're in, this age of artificial intelligence, this torrent of information, 99 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: this information war that's going on right now. Part of 100 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: what we do here is we try to get to 101 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: the truth of the story, or at least to the 102 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: most interesting version of the story. And I love it. 103 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: I've loved it since the beginning. I've been doing this 104 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: for eight years now, and these next stories we got 105 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: coming up have me as excited as anything that we've 106 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: done today. These stories aren't just true crime there of course, 107 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Like I just said, they're filled with amazing facts that 108 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: Disgraceland has come to be known for. Discoes know these facts, 109 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: the ones I mentioned earlier about Michael Hutchins and Charles 110 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Manson and Cass Elliott and a bunch of others, and 111 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: new listeners every day are learning these facts as well, 112 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: because this is the podcast for the musically obsessed and 113 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: the true crime heads, the outsiders, the independent thinkers, the 114 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: ones who know that the best history is the history 115 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: they try to bury, the stories they didn't want told, 116 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: and the kind that you're gonna end up telling someone else. 117 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: All Right, listen, I'm gonna take a quick break and 118 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: i'll be back in a flash with more on our 119 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: upcoming Patti Smith episode, a reveal of some of the 120 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: other artists that we're going to be covering in twenty 121 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: twenty six, and I'll look back into some of the 122 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: best stories from our archive of over two hundred and 123 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: fifty episodes on different musicians, as well as a little 124 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: bit of history from Disgraceland, how we got our start, 125 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: how we all came together, and where we're taking this 126 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: in the future. I'll be back in a flash. Okay. 127 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: So sometime back around twenty seventeen, I was working on 128 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: an ad agent. See if you can believe that. As 129 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: a music supervisor, basically you know the music that you 130 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: hear in commercials, Well, there are people who source and 131 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: arrange for that music to be in those commercials. And 132 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: I was one of those dudes for a minute sort of. 133 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: I say sort of because I was really bad at 134 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: my job and I knew that I was going to 135 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: get fired and I was thinking about what I was 136 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: going to do for work to support my family. This 137 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: is a time when I had gotten, like a lot 138 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: of people super into podcasts. I was really into what 139 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: was sort of the first generation of elevated storytelling in podcasting, 140 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: shows like Crimetown and serial s Town, my favorite Murder. 141 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: These shows had just launched and I was obsessed. So 142 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: I thought I'd make a podcast, and by doing so, 143 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: I'd demonstrate that I could work with audio, I could 144 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: work in audio, and then maybe someone would hire me 145 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: in some capacity to work for them, like maybe I 146 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: get a gig making podcasts for some cool company or something. 147 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: This thinking happened because at the time I am, when 148 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: I knew that I was going to get fired and 149 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: I was about to need a job. I asked my 150 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: wife and I asked my friend Adam the same question. 151 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: If you could hire me to do one job for you, 152 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: what would it be, And they both gave me the 153 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: same answer. They both said a different version of I'd 154 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: pay you to tell me stories. Now, this came as 155 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: a surprise because after years of being in bands and 156 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: driving around the country in shitty vans with my bandmates 157 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: who were telling me the opposite, telling me that I 158 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: needed to go get myself kidnapped so that I'd have 159 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: some new stories to tell. You know, I was. I 160 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: was kind of pumped to learn that there were actually 161 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: people interested in what I had to say, even if 162 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: it was just my wife and one of my best friends. 163 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: And the point is, I got this validation, this sort 164 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: of vote of confidence, right as I was becoming a 165 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: podcast listener. So naturally I decided to start my own podcast, 166 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: and I wanted to start a podcast that I wanted 167 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: to listen to, a music podcast. I'd just become a 168 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: dad couple of years before this, and I was reading 169 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Leg's McNeil in Gillian McCain's excellent book Please Kill Me, 170 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: which is an oral history about the origins of punk rock. 171 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: If you haven't read it, you have to read it. 172 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: It's great. It's got allways great stories about lou read Aypop, 173 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: the Ramones, and I remember thinking, again, this is right 174 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: after becoming a dad. You become a dad, become a parent. 175 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like from moms, but for me, 176 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: just a lot of shit changes, prospective shifts. I remember thinking, Wow, 177 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: I love the music these people make and I always 178 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: have and I always will. But I wouldn't let these 179 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: dudes in the same room with my children. That was 180 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: an actual thought that I had. I may have been 181 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: sleep deprived at the time, but I did have it. 182 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: And then I thought about all the music history that 183 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: I'd read throughout my life and the stories that I 184 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: like to retell, that I like to recount, and they 185 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: were always the stories that were most revealing, sure, but 186 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: they were the stories that involved crimes that these rock 187 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: stars either comemitted or got caught up in. And this 188 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: is because as a kid, I was absolutely captivated, owned 189 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: actually by the book Helter Skelter, and then about a 190 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: year later, I read Truman Capote's In Cold Blood, which, 191 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: aside from the Old Testament, is like the first true 192 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: crime book. And more on the Old Testament comment in 193 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: the Patti Smith episode, You'll know what I'm talking about, 194 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: but I digress. True crime books owned me in high school, 195 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: and then later as a young adult the historical fiction 196 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: of James Elroy that got its claws into me as well. 197 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: So I thought, well, I want to make a music 198 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: podcast that I want to listen to. I want to 199 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: hear the stories from music history that aren't surface level, 200 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: that aren't on the rock stars Wikipedia pages, the stories 201 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: that oftentimes aren't part of the musician's chosen narrative, the 202 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: stories that didn't make it into the cheesy biopics. And 203 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: I want these stories told to me like my favorite 204 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: directors tell stories with their own point of view and 205 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: with dramatic edge of your seat, in your face action 206 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: and gripping theater of the mind. All these ideas came 207 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: to me and gave me my building blocks for what 208 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: this show would become and what it has become. And 209 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: I knew that the first story I had to tell 210 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: was the story about Jerry Lee Lewis, the story of 211 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: the rock and roll pioneer, the one they literally nicknamed 212 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: the killer, and how he allegedly got away with murdering 213 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: his wife. Now, Jerry le Lewis lived about half an 214 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: hour from Elvis Presley's Graceland, But what did they call 215 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: Jerry Lee's home? Disgraceland. My first podcast episode gave me 216 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: the title of this show. Here's a clip. The first 217 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: thing they noticed was the absence of mister Lewis. The 218 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: second thing they noticed was how the body of missus 219 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Lewis was situated or placed neatly on a fully made 220 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: bed in a guest room, not in her bedroom with 221 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: her newlywed husband in a guest room. The EMTs checked 222 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: for vitals while Lottie Jackson, Jerry Lee's caretaker of more 223 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: than ten years, knocked on his bedroom. Within seconds the 224 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: killer emerged. The EMTs quickly noticed the bright red scratches 225 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: on the back of jerry Lee's hand, you know, the 226 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: kind the kind of looked like scratches your cat would make, 227 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: except Jerry Lee didn't own a cat. Blood was also 228 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: visible on Jerry Lee's robe and on his slippers. There 229 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: was a pile of bloody clothes in the bathroom, a 230 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: rivulet of blood on a door, more blood on the carpet. 231 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: Broken glass was scattered across the floor Throughout the house. 232 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: There was blood on Sean's dead hand, in her hair, 233 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: on her clothes and on a bra that was in 234 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: another room, Dirt all over her body, bruises on her arms, 235 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: on her hip, her fingernails were broken with something that 236 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: looked a lot like blood underneath them. All of this 237 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: physical evidence on and around a woman lying dead on 238 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: top of a neat and made bed that wasn't hers, 239 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: in a guest room in her own home, down the 240 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: hall from where her newlywed husband slept alone. Stranger than that, 241 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: the evidence wouldn't even be reported until after the grand 242 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: jury convened. Is it any wonder that they found no 243 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: indication of foul play? All right, guys, if you not 244 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: disgrace sand if you're one of our longtime listeners, you 245 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: know that we've come a long way from that episode 246 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: episode one, and I know many of you, most of 247 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: you have been here since episode one, and I thank you. 248 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,119 Speaker 1: I am so grateful to you guys for your commitment 249 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: to this show. It means more than I can possibly express. 250 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: And I'm stoked for you to hear where we're taking this. 251 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm stoked for the new listeners that are coming into 252 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: the show every week. I see you, I see your dms, 253 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: I get your emails, the comments on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts. 254 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: I want you guys to know that was episode one. Okay. 255 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Our next episode on Patti Smith will be episode number 256 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy, two hundred and seventy, And the 257 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: Patty episode is not about Patti Smith murdering anyone like 258 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: that Jerry Lee Lewis episode allegedly, But it's super true 259 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: crimey more on that than the other artists that were 260 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: covering coming up in the coming months. Right here after 261 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: this break in Disgraceland. We'll be right back after this. 262 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: We're We're, We're okay. Patty Smith is about as beloved 263 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: an artists as you can find, mainly because well, her 264 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: music is incredible and she's just a great all around artist, 265 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: a multi hyphen artist. She's a writer, a musician, obviously 266 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: a poet. She's also a survivor. Now, unlike so many 267 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: of the artists that Patti Smith admired, some of them, 268 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: like William S Burrows, themselves criminals. Unlike those artists she admired, 269 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: and unlike many of the artists that she came up with, 270 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Patti Smith survived, and I argue in this new episode 271 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: on Patty that True Crime is the reason that Patti 272 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Smith survived. More specifically, what Pattie Smith learned from True Crime. 273 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: It taught her how to avoid being a victim of 274 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: a crime, how to avoid being a rock and roll casualty. 275 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: Everything from the crime and crime and death that she 276 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: was exposed to when she was living at the Chelsea 277 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: Hotel with Robert Maplethorpe, to her time in New York 278 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: in the late seventies during the forty four Caliber Son 279 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: of Sam killings, to her mother's fascination with the first 280 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: true crime of the century, the kidnapping and the Limburg Baby. 281 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: All that plus Patty getting up close and personal with 282 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: seventies New York street hustling pimps, heroin, the bloodstained apartment 283 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: walls and chalk outlined sidewalks that she was forced to 284 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: live in and around all of it. All of this 285 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: true crime taught the quote unquote godmother of punk how 286 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: to not become a victim and how to survive, and 287 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: to also develop some pretty surprising taste in television. Okay, 288 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: this is the most revealing thing to me, serial crime fiction. 289 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: Patti Smith, the high Priestess of Art Binging, CSI and 290 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: Law and Order. I did not see that coming. Guys. 291 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: She's just like us, just like us, Patti Smith. Anyways, 292 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: that Patty Smith episode. I'm beyond excited for you to 293 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: hear this. It's coming next week. I promise you. You may 294 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: know the Patti Smith story, but you're not gonna you 295 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: don't know this story. You're not gonna hear it like this. Okay. Now, 296 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: before that Patty Smith episode, we're gonna have a bonus 297 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: after party episode that's coming up on Thursday. Per usual, 298 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: typically for new listeners, Disgrace and releases new stories every Tuesday. 299 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: These are the artists centered music and true crimes, scripted 300 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: and sound designed episodes that I've been talking about, each 301 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: on a different artist and the crime or crimes that 302 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: they've been involved with. It being Tuesday when the episode 303 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: that you're listening to right now is released. Normally you'd 304 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: get a fully scripted, sound designed episode here on an artist, 305 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: but we do trailers a couple times a year, and 306 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: rather than just dropping a trailer into the feed that 307 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: was like three or four minutes long that just had 308 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: clips from shows, I figured I'd put a little more 309 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: meat on the bone, give a little bit more of 310 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: an explanation in here, spend some time discussing, you know, 311 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: where Disgrace line's at, where it's been. We blew by 312 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: two hundred episodes. We didn't even mention it two hundred 313 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: and fifty episodes as well. We're at two hundred and seventy, 314 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: so I just felt like it was time. You know, 315 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: we're we're gonna wake up in a couple months, we're 316 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: gonna be at three hundred episodes, So I just figured 317 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: it was time to kind of reset as we share 318 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: what's coming up with the discos who have been listening 319 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: forever and give the lay of the land to the 320 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: new listeners who have come in over the past few months, weeks, days, whatever. Okay, 321 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing here. So that's the Patti 322 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: Smith episode coming up next week. There will be a 323 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: bonus after party episode before that, released on Thursday, per usual, 324 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: So typically for new listeners here, Disgraceland releases news stories 325 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: every Tuesday. These are our artists centered music and true crimes, 326 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: scripted and sound designed episodes that I've been talking about. 327 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: Now on Thursdays we release bonus chat episodes. The bonus 328 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: after party episodes are where I take your calls and 329 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: respond to your texts and dms and emails, typically in 330 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: relation to questions and comments listeners have on that week's 331 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: full episode on the artist we cover. Historically, we've released 332 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: our archive episodes, our rewind episodes, episodes from our archive 333 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: of over two hundred and sixty stories from different artists 334 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: from every genre, Musicians you love, musicians you've never heard 335 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: of but are going to love their stories. These archive episodes, 336 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: historically we're released on Fridays. They are now going to 337 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: be released on Sundays. The reason we release archive episodes 338 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: once a week, like think of it like a rerun 339 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: on television, is because we get new listeners coming in 340 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: all the time, and emails and dms requesting artists, frankly artists, 341 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: and in some cases we covered years ago, so we 342 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: figured research these artists made sense to give new fans exposure, 343 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: you know. Plus, Disgraceland is its evergreen content. You can 344 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: re listen to these stories over and over again like 345 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: you can rewatch a movie or rebinge a TV series, 346 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: et cetera. Okay, now, on all those episodes, those two 347 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy episodes, it's hard for me to pick 348 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: out a favorite. But if you're looking for some highlights 349 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: from the archive, some of the stories that disco's regularly 350 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: talk to me about are the recent Lady Gaga two 351 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: part episode that got a lot of heat in the 352 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: murder mystery that's at the origin of Gaga's story. The 353 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: Grateful Dead unwittingly turning American youth onto LSD after being 354 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: manipulated by the CIA that's always gotten a lot of action, 355 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: The story about the Norwegian black metal scene and the 356 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: church burnings, the murder the cannibalism. There's Sid and Nancy, 357 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: Kurt and Courtney, the Stones, the Beatles, Amy Winehouse, that's 358 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: another one that gets always gets a lot of a 359 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: lot of mentions, a lot of action. And I'm gonna 360 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: have my guy Matt here, who's producing this episode. Lay 361 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: a clip from the Amy whine House episode in right here. 362 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: The cameras there flash the intrusive shouts from members of 363 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: the paparazzi and their commands, do this, don't do that? 364 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: How's red? When was the last time he saw Blake? 365 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: When are we getting new music? To Amy, it was 366 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: white noise. As disruptive as it was, she could no 367 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: longer register it. She'd walk down the street and affect 368 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: her one thousand yard junkie stare. It wasn't difficult. She'd 369 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: done her time in the shooting gallery. Even if she 370 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: was off smack, and even if she was drunk, she 371 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: knew how to project the gaze. Amy would trick herself 372 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: into thinking about something else. Music, always music. She'd watch 373 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: her voice as if the sound of it was a 374 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: physical thing that could be tracked visually. Amy would take 375 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: a melody, sometimes one of her own. Something she was 376 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: working on. These days. It was usually a classic from 377 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: the Torch song Book, from one of the jazz grades 378 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: she admired and studied, Saravaon or Tony Bennett, and Amy 379 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: would imagine that melody passing over her lips and rising 380 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: up into the sky, floating freely without the limitations of 381 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: this cruel world. It would move with ease around the 382 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: clouds from left to right, slinking and sliding over the 383 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: imagined bars of some cosmic scale, a sonic manifestation of 384 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: the emotion welling up inside of a heavily mascarret vision board, 385 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: like one of those transparent acetate sheets the music school 386 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: teachers who place on old viewfoil projectors, layered over the 387 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: reality of the unwonted fame that complicated her world, the 388 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: same world she tottered through alternately on four inch heels 389 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: and in bloody ballerina shoes. All right, that's Amy Winehouse. 390 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: I should also probably mention that I was in Texas 391 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: a little bit ago, and I ran into a fan 392 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: and a musician actually, who brought up our ditty episodes, 393 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: which I love, Our Shawn Home episodes. We have two. 394 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: We have part one and a part two. But if 395 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about disgrace slanmed hip hop episodes. The jay 396 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: Z episode is my favorite. December one, nineteen ninety nine, Midtown, Manhattan, 397 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: the Kitcat Club, the release party for the heavily anticipated 398 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: solo debut by q Tip from a tribe called Quest Sean, 399 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: Puffy Comb's Little Kim, Busted Rhymes, and the Little Cease 400 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: all on the scene. Jay Z rolled up late and 401 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: deep with his entourage behind him. At the bar Lance 402 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: on Rivera Jay spied him confronted him with a bootlegging allegation. 403 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: Fuck that, fuck you, I didn't bootleg shit. Who do 404 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: you think you even talked to? Fuck out of my face. 405 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: Young Jay headed back to the bar, blinders on rage, 406 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: pulsing darkness, closing in that feeling of being fucked with, 407 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: losing control, being disrespected, dissed into, dismissed, unacceptable in Jay's 408 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: previous occupation, when you were disrespected, and especially if someone 409 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: took money out of your pocket, you not only stood 410 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: your ground, you let that motherfucker know you were not 411 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: to be fucked with by any means necessary. It was survival, 412 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: and here, right now in the Kit Kat Club, that 413 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: familiar survival instinct kicked in and took over. Jay turned around, 414 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: beat the line straight back to a bottle in one hand, 415 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: knife in the other. He got up on him quick. 416 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: Witnesses say Jay spoke direct a la Michael Corleoni, defredo Lance, 417 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: you broke my heart, and then smashed the bottle over 418 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: UN's brother's head a quick distraction before plunging the five 419 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: inch blade into unsgut. Fuck you, bootleg boy. Let that 420 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: be a lesson. All right, that's Jay Z in Disgraceland, 421 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: and I'll be back right after this. I know, I know, 422 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: I've been saying I'm gonna do this for the last 423 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: two breaks, but I'll be back right after this with 424 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: a reveal of which new artists we are covering in 425 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: the coming months here in Disgraceland. All right, thanks for 426 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: hanging out with me today in this special episode of Disgraceland. 427 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: Hope you dug the peak behind the curtain, a little 428 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: Disgraceland history. But now to the matter at hand, our 429 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: new episodes, our new stories next week, our brand new 430 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: episode on Patti Smith, which you can tell by now 431 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm very excited about. And then after that our new 432 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: episode on Grace Jones, who I was surprised to learn 433 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: that the iconic eighty Star was basically a walking true crime. Then, 434 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, Depeche Mode Foo Fighters, and after that, 435 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: finally our long requested episode on a real dirtbag, Ian 436 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: Watkins from Lost Prophets. The musicians are unspeakable, and if 437 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, guys, I'm not really sure how I'm 438 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: even going to tell this story, but I'm up for 439 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: the challenge. Then we get into our episode on Stevie 440 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: ray Vaughan, followed by a story on Christina Grimy, the 441 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: singer from the Voice who became super famous, super quick 442 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: and was tragically murdered. After that, we've got episodes check 443 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: this out on the following Weezer Adele Blur, Slash Elastica, 444 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: George Jones, Fiona Apple, Wendy o' williams. Yes, this goes. 445 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: I listened to all the voicemails, read all the texts, 446 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: and the emails suggesting Wendy o williams it's coming later 447 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: this year. Episodes on t Rex, Alanis Morrissette, Nick Cave, 448 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: Maybe still haven't decided on Nick Cave, Slip Knott, Nico 449 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: from The Velvet Underground, Slayer, The Alman Brothers, and I 450 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: am working my way up and into assuming I can 451 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: conjure the appropriate amount of constitutional fortitude to cover Courtney 452 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: Love to kick off the fall stringth of Disgraceland episodes. 453 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: That's a lot of stories. Okay. I hope it was 454 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: worth your hang here, but as always, we need more stories. Okay. 455 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: I didn't even get into the twenty twenty six Fall 456 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: in Winter episodes aside from mentioning Courtney, So discoes, keep 457 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: the recommendations coming. Six one seven, nine oh six sixty 458 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: six three eight call and leave me a voicemail, send 459 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: me a text or an email at disgracelampod at gmail 460 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: dot com, and and and the dms are open at 461 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: disgracelam pod, on Instagram, TikTok, sometimes Facebook, and pretty much 462 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: never on X but you know, sometimes I guess. Let 463 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: me know which rock stars and musicians you want us 464 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: to cover in Disgraceland again. Six one seven, nine oh six, 465 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: six six three eight, disgracelampod at gmail dot com, at 466 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: disgraceland on the socials, and if you want a more 467 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: formal say into who we cover. If you want a 468 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: larger role in the selection process of artists, become a 469 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: Disgraceland All Access member on Patreon or Apple Podcasts, get 470 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: access to the Disco community chat, connect with other Disgrace 471 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: slamd listeners and music and true crime obsessives, and unlock 472 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: exclusive and ad free content by going to Disgrace lampod 473 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: dot com to sign up. All Right, Disco's so much gratitude. 474 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, thanks for hanging out with me in 475 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: another episode, this one a special episode of Disgraceland. Can't 476 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: wait to talk to you all again in the after 477 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: party coming up next. And man, I'm so looking forward 478 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: to hear what you have to say about this Patti 479 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: Smith episode. All Right, it's been real, but now I 480 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: get to get out of here and go do some research. 481 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: Rock a little, He's an Land