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Speaker 1: Have a lot of questions from you guys. You guys

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Speaker 1: know the drill at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is

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Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those dms, and get your questions

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Speaker 1: And I don't think there's that much more to be

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you're young, you know, your parents,

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Speaker 1: You don't quit, never quit, which I think for the

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Speaker 1: And in something this specific, like those other guys on

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Speaker 1: Three four million dollars a year and as Vikings fans

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Speaker 1: What's the name of the consignment store for the designer bags.

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Speaker 2: Tell you this, my sister addic. If you want designer bags.

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Speaker 1: Honestly they got I mean, the one designer bag that

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean they're brand new, are like four or five,

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Speaker 1: Chicks like that Vikings fan, I guess we pay for

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Speaker 2: A lot of money. So I mean we all got issues.

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Speaker 1: Why are talking heads constantly talking about Sam Darnold's signing

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Speaker 1: let him go? Seriously, he's getting tagged if we can't

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Speaker 1: reach a deal.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: JJ is already a full year behind learning anything and

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Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag, with Belchick going to North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: do you think any other high profile NFL coach will

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Speaker 2: Well, Vrabel played in the NFL for what, my guess

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Speaker 1: Looking it up right now, twelve years, so he wasn't

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Speaker 2: He made millions, not like crazy millions, but he made enough.

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Speaker 1: I looked up he was making nine point five million

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Speaker 1: dollars to coach the Titans. I'm pretty sure he's being

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Speaker 1: paid nine point five million dollars this year to not

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Speaker 1: coach the Titans. So verbele in terms of money, in

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Speaker 1: terms of happiness, Like, he's making a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Now, if you're making a million dollars and you've been

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Speaker 1: making a million dollars for a while, I'm just using

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Speaker 1: more realistic for ninety nine percent of people than like

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Speaker 1: ten or fifteen million dollars, not that one million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year in a salary. Is that realistic for most people?

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, we could also use

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Speaker 1: like five hundred thousand dollars. It's like that's good, good

508
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Speaker 1: income and you're making money, you've invested like your your

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Speaker 1: family's living good. Might have a country club membership, your

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Speaker 1: kids could go to.

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Speaker 2: Private school if you want.

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Speaker 1: You got a couple of new cars, you got a

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Speaker 1: big pad. Again, this is if you don't live in

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Speaker 1: a in a tax heavy state like California, Jersey or

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Speaker 1: New York. If you if you live in Texas, Arizona

516
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Speaker 1: or Florida, fuck, you're living good. And I highly recommend

517
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Speaker 1: that because it's amazing when you cross an imaginary line

518
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Speaker 1: how much more money stays with you. And then you

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Speaker 1: can always go back to the those states if you

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Speaker 1: really want to and buy what you want to buy

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Speaker 1: with the extra money that you just keep every year.

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Speaker 1: That's just little life lesson from a guy that lived

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Speaker 1: in one place for thirty plus years and drove across

524
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Speaker 1: an imaginary line. His life's infinitely better. But one hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars makes you listen. But if you don't want

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Speaker 1: to coach college and you're already rich, like who cares?

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Speaker 1: So if he is dead set on coaching the NFL,

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Speaker 1: which I do feel like he is, then I would

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Speaker 1: expect him to try to get an NFL job. Now,

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Speaker 1: if Ryan Day loses this job to Tennessee and his

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Speaker 1: shit canned next week, I think they would only do

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Speaker 1: it if they knew they could land Mike Vrabel, who

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Speaker 1: obviously is an alumni. But at his age, you know

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Speaker 1: what he want to go full saban is his desire.

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Speaker 1: I think what makes it unique for him is he

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Speaker 1: won so many Super Bowls as a player, right, so

537
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: only he would know this his true true desire. Like

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Speaker 1: how much it means to him to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: As a coach?

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Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, Like, because if

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Speaker 1: it's like Ohio State would offer you one hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars and give you all those resources, like, bro, you're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna win a NAT of here, shit, you might

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Speaker 1: win a couple And if you're getting paid, like you said,

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Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars a year, he's no Ohio guy, definitely

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Speaker 1: would make him listen. I just have no clue where

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Speaker 1: his head's at in terms of how dead set is

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Speaker 1: he on trying to like win a Super Bowl. Do

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Speaker 1: you think guys would rather win a national championship and

550
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Speaker 1: have a similar role, or be like Ashton Genty and

551
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: have a slim to none chance of winning the national

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Speaker 1: championship but be immortalized in a smaller program's history. I'm

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Speaker 1: a Utah fan, and I forever hold the guys that

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Speaker 1: help us win two BCS Bowl games in higher regard

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Speaker 1: than any other player from Utah's history.

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Speaker 2: Just curious.

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Speaker 1: Now when he decides to stay, he understands that, like,

558
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Speaker 1: this year couldn't have gone any better, and they have

559
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Speaker 1: no shot to win the national Championship. I guess technically

560
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Speaker 1: they do because they're in the playoffs, but we all

561
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Speaker 1: know they have no shot. And I think more of

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Speaker 1: it is once you're in it, Like if you're at

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Speaker 1: Utah and you're at Boise and you like love your

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Speaker 1: teammates and you love the program, Like what are you

565
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Speaker 1: really chasing? Especially they're paying you and you know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the NFL, especially if you think your

567
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Speaker 1: team's gonna be really good, Like you have those relationships,

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Speaker 1: like he's played with these guys now for three years.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how these people just jump and team

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Speaker 1: to team, develop any human relationships with their teammates. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's one thing to be a mercenary when you're like

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Speaker 1: thirty three year old NFL guy and holding on and

573
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: is trying to get a job like Kalayis Campbell just

574
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: do whatever he can to play for somebody.

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Speaker 2: Get it.

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00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: He's you know, been the league for a long time.

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00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: But when you're seventeen eighteen, you like, get to campus,

578
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: you meet a bunch of buddies, and you like it.

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Speaker 2: And you're making money. I just like you. It'd be

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: hard for me, but I guess I'm not quite wired

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Speaker 2: like some of these other guys.

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Speaker 1: Huge Lions fan and a Michigan man, so I've been

583
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: in football heaven the last couple of years. I live

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and I am not a Vikings fan, but

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Speaker 1: I was excited when they drafted JJ with O'Connell as

586
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Speaker 1: his coach. I thought he could have a lot of

587
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Speaker 1: success if Darnold continues at his current pace and has

588
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Speaker 1: success in the playoffs. You think it's possible the Vikings

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Speaker 1: would trade McCarthy if so. With the weak quarterback draft

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Speaker 1: class coming up, could they get a first round pick

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Speaker 1: for him?

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Speaker 2: Does that make any sense?

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Speaker 1: I love JJ, but if you already have a great

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Speaker 1: quarterback and can continue to build the roster, I would

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Speaker 1: imagine they'd get a first round pick for him. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it'd be a little complicated because of the injury, So

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Speaker 1: it would be I would say, predicated on a physical

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Speaker 1: like his knee would have to be right. But they

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Speaker 1: gave him a twelve million dollars signing bonus, and if

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Speaker 1: they could get a first round pick, here's the problem,

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Speaker 1: Like the Raiders the Giants, these teams aren't giving them

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Speaker 2: Or maybe they would. Maybe they would.

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Speaker 1: Actually I don't see how they could because the Giants

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Speaker 1: passed on them. So the Giants, if they thought he

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Speaker 1: was a franchise quarterback, could have drafted him.

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Speaker 2: It'd just be the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: And if they have the number one pick, I think

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Speaker 1: it could be harder to get a first round pick

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Speaker 1: for him than you think.

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Speaker 2: So I guess now just talk can get out loud.

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Speaker 1: I would say no because it would have to be

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Speaker 1: a team that's desperate for a quarterback. Who would that

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Speaker 1: be at the bottom, you know, the Giants, the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: the Titans, the Jets. Would you do their second round

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Speaker 1: pick for some of these teams, which was like pick

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Speaker 1: thirty five and just kind of eat it. So basically,

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Speaker 1: you would eat twenty plus spots in a.

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Speaker 2: Draft in twelve million bucks.

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Speaker 1: And it would impact your cap a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: not crazy.

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Speaker 2: Uh Steeler fan here.

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Speaker 1: I know there is a lot to be said about

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Speaker 1: how authentic Russell Wilson is, but I wanted to share

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Speaker 1: something that most NFL fans don't know. Russell Wilson visits

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Speaker 1: the kids here at Children's Hospital almost every week. My

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Speaker 1: nephew is battling cancer, and it means so much to

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Speaker 1: the kids. It shows a lot about his character. Lastly,

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Speaker 1: google Big Ben versus Aaron Rodgers stats. The numbers are surprising.

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Speaker 1: Let me push back on one thing. I do think

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Speaker 1: if you fall football, you know on Instagram or Twitter,

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00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: you know Russell like he posts that, right, So I

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Speaker 1: mean he's been doing that for a decade. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not there's a difference between talking authentically and just doing

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Speaker 1: I see some of these politicians. I'm like, not only

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Speaker 1: are they not authentic, I think they're a fucking scumbag.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust that person to walk my dog across

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Speaker 1: the street. Then there's versions like Russell Wilson that goes like,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe he's like a bad person. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe he does bad things. I don't believe he's not

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Speaker 1: like a has some good intentions. I just think he's

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Speaker 1: just been this creation of this media training or whatever,

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00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: and maybe that's part of him. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's ever.

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Speaker 2: Thought he's like a bad guy.

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Speaker 1: And obviously, like you said, he does things for other

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Speaker 1: people and he's done that from the beginning of his career.

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Speaker 2: I actually think it goes.

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Speaker 1: Back to like Wisconsin and North Carolina state. I think

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Speaker 1: we got to put Russell into context, right when when

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Speaker 1: you look at some of these people that are you know,

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Speaker 1: it can be quote unquote phony. I think you can

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Speaker 1: separate them like you can be kind of phony, try

655
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: to get someone's business right and be a high character,

656
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: high morals. You can be phony and you'd put a

657
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: knife in their throat to get to ruin their career, right.

658
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: I think that's the way a lot of people look

659
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: at like politicians. And then I think there's like Russell

660
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: Wilson does not fall into the latter category.

661
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: I think people just think he's.

662
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Kind of cheesy and annoying, but no one would say

663
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: he's like a bad human being. I also think and

664
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: I think the pushback on some time, like you said,

665
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: it does mean a lot to the kids. A lot

666
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: of NFL guys do that and you never know it

667
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: because they don't publicize it. Like a lot of guys

668
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: do things in their community in pro sports in general.

669
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: I remember DeMarcus Cousins, the basketball player from Kentucky, when

670
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: he was in Sacramento, used to like take care of

671
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: the Grant.

672
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: High school football program.

673
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: It's like an inner city program in Sacramento that historically,

674
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: like when I was a kid and played him in

675
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: high school, were good. I mean they were loaded. I

676
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: think they've kind of had some ups and downs, but

677
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: like they've had some moments with some like NFL guys

678
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: in their program. And he never publicized it. And I

679
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: think a lot of people, you know, go to hospitals

680
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: give money to other people and it's just completely silent

681
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: because it's just they're a good guy. Is the right

682
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: thing to do, and they can make a difference. And again,

683
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: like I got We're in a world of posting things,

684
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: so it doesn't bother me that much. But I think

685
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: there's an element of.

686
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: That there with people I don't care.

687
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: Do you think Lawrence Taylor, probably Bill's favorite player of

688
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: all time and former tower heel, could be part of

689
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: Bill's staff? Maybe not a defensive coordinator, but more like

690
00:36:54,120 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: a Warren Sap. I I doubt that one. I thought

691
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: I saw relatively recently. I thought he got in trouble

692
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: again this summer, Lawrence Taylor arrested and charged with failing

693
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: to report move as a sex offender.

694
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: Again. I just think he's been in too much.

695
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: Trouble, so I would say no. Now do I think

696
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: Bill will bring him to the team and have him

697
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: maybe talking a practice or something, for sure? But I

698
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: don't think Bill won. I don't even think he would,

699
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: But I don't think he can. Fellow baldy here, how

700
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: often do you shave your head? Have you ever thought

701
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: of a hair transplant?

702
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: I heard the other.

703
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: Day from a buddy about a guy that I never

704
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: crossed my mind that went to Turkey and got it.

705
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people you know over

706
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: the years have gone to Turkey. And I was like,

707
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: how much, because I always heard it was like thirty

708
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: forty fifty grand, which in America it was always I remember,

709
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: I know a good buddy that I went to college

710
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: with who got it, and at the time, this is

711
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: probably a decade ago, you know, in his twenties, it

712
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: was like twenty five grand, which might have been millions

713
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: of dollars at the time. And it didn't even totally work.

714
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: And I don't think any of these totally work, like

715
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: you have to go back and get it redone. But

716
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: I just thought, like, I don't even care. And then,

717
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, my dating life once I went bald, actually

718
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: kind of elevated, and I just don't care. Though I've

719
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: said it always that I would have no problem coming back,

720
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't want the hair that I used to

721
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: have or had. I wouldn't want my previous hair, which

722
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure is what they do, because they just

723
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: take it out of your sides and put it on top.

724
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: If you're giving me John Stamo's flow. You know, Brady

725
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: clearly had good hair. He was losing it and then

726
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: he got the plugs or whatever he got, and that's

727
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: just his hair. You know, you look at like Peyton

728
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: Manning or something like he just got bad hair. I

729
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: didn't have great hair, wasn't bad, but it wasn't like

730
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hang my hat on it. And so if

731
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: like I just get to come back with my old hair,

732
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't really care I shave. It just depends. Like today,

733
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: I shaved after the steam room and the sawn after

734
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: I worked out because we're going you know, it's Marie

735
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: and her mom's birthday tonight. But if we weren't doing

736
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: anything and I might not a shit.

737
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: You know, it depends. I wear a hat a lot.

738
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: Now podcasting My Friends with Travis Matthews, I've been doing

739
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: pretty good giveaways. I did a giveaway someone want one

740
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: of the one of you guys won.

741
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: Matt on a.

742
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: What was that Monday Night Football? We predicted the score

743
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Thursday and I put this all on Instagram. Thursday Night Football,

744
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: we did combine passing yards. He just got three. He

745
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: got two pullovers and a pair of jeans. On Thursday

746
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: Night Football, I gave away one hundred and fifty dollars

747
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: gift card to Travis Matthews and it was combined passing

748
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: yards of Stafford and Purty. Most people were five point

749
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: fifty to six fifty and then the Torrential rain Port.

750
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: They combined for three h two, so the closest was

751
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: actually someone that gets three hundred and twenty five. I

752
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: kind of like doing something like that. I might, and

753
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do another one. I got one more one

754
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars gift card which gets you a

755
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: cup of polos, gets you some shorts, gets your pullover

756
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: like Dravis Matthews got sweet shit. So I will do

757
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: another one of those on Monday Night Football. Huge fan

758
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: of the Pod question that after Week fourteen, I feel

759
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: like needs to be addressed as much as the NFL

760
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: media thinks, the Chiefs have essentially locked up the number

761
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: one seed with the Bills losing. Would you be surprised

762
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: if they find themselves potentially falling to the three seed.

763
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: Bills can easily sweep their next four games. Christmas Day

764
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: Chiefs in Pittsburgh has upset written all over it, and

765
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden if the Steelers win out also feasible.

766
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are fighting for their lives against a gritty

767
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: Broncos team in Denver with a win for the one

768
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: and a loss that drops them to the three that

769
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: still seems like gotta have it, gotta get it type

770
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: Chiefs game. That's a good point, I would say, I

771
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: think that Bills, I don't know, man. I just think

772
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs find a way to win. So pulling up

773
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: the Chiefs schedule right now. They got the Browns this

774
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: week in Cleveland, which will not be an easy game.

775
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: The Texans, who have kind of been in shambles all

776
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: year at Arrowhead and then at Pittsburgh, Christmas at Broncos.

777
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: I think where you might have an issue if you're

778
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, like, are you running on fumes a little bit?

779
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: You're playing in all these close games. If they were

780
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: to get like upset by the Browns, then I would

781
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: think it would be on the table because then you

782
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: get a short week Saturday game Texans. Then you got

783
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: the fucking Christmas Wednesday game, which I get and is

784
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: going to do huge numbers.

785
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: That sucks. If you're the Chiefs, you're like.

786
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: Wait, we gotta go Saturday game, so we get we

787
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: don't get an extra normal work week, and then we

788
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: play a game on Wednesday. But part of the reason

789
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Andy's get making twenty and Mahomes making fifty is like

790
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: where do you think the Bills are paid television?

791
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: Baby?

792
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not inconceivable. Before I get into the

793
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: other team schedules, I think it's much more about like,

794
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs screw up in one of these two games,

795
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: it could unravel just because they could be exhausted and

796
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: Denver played them. Well, my take would be, though, fo

797
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: get you're telling me they go twelve and one, so

798
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: in thirteen games, they lose one game and then down

799
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: the stretch. I don't see it being worse than two.

800
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: So that would be two two and two, which would

801
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: make them fourteen and three. So the Bills, like you said,

802
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: would have to win out, which is possible.

803
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: And let me click on the Steelers who they got.

804
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: I think their schedule is kind of hard.

805
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: So the Steelers got obviously the Eagles this week, then

806
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: the Ravens, then the Chiefs and the Bengals. I have

807
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: a hard time seeing them win out. I really do, Like,

808
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening the Bills. It's all about

809
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: this game because then they go Patriots, Jets, Patriots. So yeah,

810
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you're crazy. But the Chiefs

811
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: can go two and two and those other teams would

812
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: have to go four to oh. It's a big game

813
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: for the Bills on Sunday for sure, really big game

814
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: coming off thirteen and oh twenty twenty three season and

815
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: being snubbed from the College Football playoffs and subsequently following

816
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: that season with an abysmal two to ten twenty twenty

817
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: four campaign. Can Mike Norvel right the ship at Florida

818
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: State going forward? Will hiring Gus Melzon and Tony White

819
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: at both coordinator spots chaint.

820
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: Be the change that's needed.

821
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: What I don't understand, you know, from a firing coaches,

822
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: it's like, you just went thirteen to oh with these guys, right,

823
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: so then you bring them back, it's clear you suck

824
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: because your quarterback was so abysmal, I mean so bad.

825
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: But there's gonna be a lot of pressure on them

826
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: because you go thirteen to oh even though you got

827
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: screwed to the playoffs or whatever. I don't think technically

828
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: you did, but I understand people complaining about it. You

829
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: can go like seven and five and everyone's like, Okay.

830
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: You get a little breather. Two and ten.

831
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Speaker 1: You're just not There are schools you are not ever

832
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: allowed to go to and ten and the moment you

833
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: do it, even if you have some equity built up,

834
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: because Norvell did with the previous season, you were immediately

835
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: on the hot seat. And that's basically any top I

836
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: would say twelve ish program. I mean, look at Oseron.

837
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: You could win the national championship. If you go to

838
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: and ten. The next year you're on the hot seat. Alabama, Georgia, Florida,

839
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, sc Oregon would be the same.

840
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: Like you just would not be allowed to go to

841
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: inten and you shouldn't be because you could have a

842
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: weird season, balls can bounce the wrong way and you

843
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: can go seven to five, eight and four at one

844
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: of the great programs, right you know, you watch LSU

845
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: this year. It was a bizarre year. But if that's

846
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: as shitty as it gets, it's like he can fight

847
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: off everybody. And I don't think it's random that him

848
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: and his wife donated. When I say him and his wife,

849
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: I mean he's the guy making the millions. Brian Kelly

850
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: donates a million dollars to the nil fund, You know,

851
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: it just quiets everyone down. It's like, yeah, Brian, even

852
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: you probably got eighty million in the bank, and if

853
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: you got eighty in the bank, you're investing it. You're

854
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: turning that fucking thing into one fifty, so you give

855
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: it a million. Which I'm not one of those people

856
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: who like to degrade others for what's like he's doing

857
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: it for tax breaks.

858
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: It's like, listen, but like you.

859
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: Are doing it to help your program, but no one's

860
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: looking at you the same when you're eight and four

861
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: and you've lost some of the games you did. Now,

862
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: is he on the hot seat next year? You know,

863
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: he's got a couple of years, but like that's where

864
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: eight and four start. Two to ten Florida State. Pretty sure,

865
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: Bobby Bowden was in the top five for like fifteenth

866
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: straight years. I feel like I'm screwing up that stat

867
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: but it was something outrageous. Okay, last question, out of

868
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: the four quarterback situations in the North as a coach,

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Speaker 1: which one would you be most interested Goff under contract

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Speaker 1: but playing about the peak of his powers, Love under

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Speaker 1: contract and showing signs of greatness but lacks consistency, Darnald

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Speaker 1: needing a contract plus JJ on the bench, or Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams struggling potential rookie contract. Caleb would one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: be last without question. Caleb is last because there is

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Speaker 1: no guarantee that he's good. He's made good plays, can

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Speaker 1: he be a good player unknown. Anytime you have an

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Speaker 1: unknown at quarterback, it can easily go in the toilet

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Speaker 1: as it can go to a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: H I would say it'd be pretty hard if are

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Speaker 2: we talking.

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Speaker 1: Head coach or offensive coordinator, because if I'm an offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: it one the Lions. I mean, because they have such

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Speaker 1: a dominant offensive line. The problem with the Vikings is

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Speaker 1: their star left tackle did get injured, and anytime you

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Speaker 1: heard a knee and you're a big guy, you just

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Speaker 1: kind of keep your fingers crossed. But I think that

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Speaker 1: gets complicated. So to me, it would be Lions one A,

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Speaker 1: Packers one B. I mean, they're loaded as well, and

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Speaker 1: I like Jordan Love a lot. I think the Viking

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Speaker 1: situation in theory it's really good. It's like they got

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, they got Jordan Addison, they got a tight end,

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Speaker 1: they got good running back. But it's like that elephant

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Speaker 1: in the room of the of the darn Old JJ stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's just it usually gets weird, and most times when

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Speaker 2: stuff gets weird. It derails you. It's not normal that it's.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we got Jimmy Garoppolo, we drafted Trey Lance,

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Speaker 1: we got pretty Usually don't make it out of the

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Speaker 1: mud on that one. Even when you're good, it just

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Speaker 1: it can just overwhelm you. Now, I wouldn't bet against them,

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Speaker 1: but to me, I couldn't place them as high as

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Speaker 1: the other two. And to me, the Bears are dead.

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Speaker 1: Last I saw Roma Dunesday's dad was either tweeting or

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Speaker 1: instagram in something like this. Maybe he quoted a tweet

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Speaker 1: like what would his kid be doing somewhere else? He

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Speaker 1: was like one hundred, twelve hundred and ten touches found something.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Rome's talented. I think, looking back, the Bear should

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Speaker 1: not have taken Rome of Dunesday, who is good. They

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Speaker 1: should have taken an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, on on that. Have a great weekend. Talk to

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Speaker 2: everyone soon.

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