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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Networks. Shooler and Matt Williamson with you here for

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Speaker 2: the next two hours on a Friday. Matt as that

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Speaker 2: road is narrow, partner. It's December. Yeah, it's cold outside

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Speaker 2: Ravens You know what. I'm glad you said it that way.

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Speaker 2: That's really all that needs to be said.

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Speaker 3: It's all you've said.

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Speaker 2: It's Ravens Week. It's Friday of Ravens Week, which means

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Speaker 2: we've got plenty to get into, to discuss, to get

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Speaker 2: ready for what is Always it doesn't matter if these

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Speaker 2: teams were twelve and oh six and six oh and twelve,

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Speaker 2: Always one that you circle, always one that you highlight,

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Speaker 2: Always one that rightfully so in not only Pittsburgh and Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: but across the NFL, demands a ton of attention.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean given us some thought late in

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Speaker 3: the week here that maybe it's a good time for

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Speaker 3: Ravens Week, you know, like this is going to imply

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Speaker 3: that other games aren't as important or they don't try

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Speaker 3: as hard and that's not what I mean at all,

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Speaker 3: But it's a different feel in that building for Ravens Week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the cam Haywards of the world that have

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Speaker 3: gone through many battles of these teams is going to

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Speaker 3: trickle down to the new guys and all that. And frankly,

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Speaker 3: I don't think any of us are thrilled with all

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Speaker 3: the Steelers have played lately, you know, And you could

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Speaker 3: even say that in probably Baltimore's building, you know that

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Speaker 3: they're not thrilled with certainly their last game totally, and

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Speaker 3: some things have not gone to schedule. So maybe you

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Speaker 3: get back to a barroom brawl and see where it

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Speaker 3: goes from there, you know, like maybe it's good for you.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great way to put it. I

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Speaker 2: was talking to our buddy Chad Tyson, who does after

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Speaker 2: noons on DVE and similar kind of thing like this

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Speaker 2: feels like, I like the barroom ball moniker that you bought,

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Speaker 2: ball room brawl moniker that you just used there, but

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Speaker 2: like we like this seems like in kind of an

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Speaker 2: old school the proverbial like throw out the record books

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Speaker 2: that everybody likes to say. And I know that this

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Speaker 2: has been the case as long as football has been played,

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Speaker 2: as much as the game has changed and evolved and

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Speaker 2: offenses have changed and evolved, so often football comes down

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Speaker 2: to your big guys being better over the course of

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Speaker 2: sixty minutes than the other team's big guys. And again

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Speaker 2: we can all argue that in twenty twenty five, maybe

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Speaker 2: that means less than it did in nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 2: Probably true, But I think for I think, for this one,

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Speaker 2: for both teams, dealing with some injuries, dealing with some struggles,

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Speaker 2: it is a let's get buttoned up, let's be let's

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Speaker 2: be on our fund like, on our fundamentals, almost to

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Speaker 2: back to basics. We're going to out physical these guys

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Speaker 2: over the course of sixty minutes, you know, over three

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Speaker 2: hours on Sunday, and that's going to be the difference,

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Speaker 2: as it's so often is between these two teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, maybe a lot less cuteness of we're

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Speaker 3: gonna do this, We're gonna do that. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: coaches know each other so.

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Speaker 2: Well, second most between any two coaches in NFL history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I can't stress that enough. I mean that

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Speaker 3: there's I think these both these coaches would probably even

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Speaker 3: admit after they retire. I coached it different against Harbaugh

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Speaker 3: than I did against most other games. I coached different

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Speaker 3: against Tomlin than I did other games. You did it

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Speaker 3: so many times totally, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: I think that makes a ton of sense. If you're

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Speaker 2: a legendary pitcher and a legendary batter and you, yeah,

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Speaker 2: right right, stepped into the batter's boxing on the mound

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Speaker 2: against each other one hundred times, that's different than someone

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Speaker 3: It just he's bringing that curveball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right right' It's it's a lot less I feel

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Speaker 2: like smoking mirrors and a lot more we I know, you,

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Speaker 2: you know me. We're lining up, let's do this thing,

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Speaker 2: and let's see who blinks first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And there'll be new wrinkles as every game

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Speaker 3: and then they're certainly not going to game plan differently.

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Speaker 3: But I think it might do the Steelers some good

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Speaker 3: to get back to your grassroots and okay, we just

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Speaker 3: need to be the most physical team out there. We

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Speaker 3: need to block better than them. We need to hit

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Speaker 3: know a lot of bodies the football, you know, fundamental stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think that is is job number one for both

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Speaker 2: talk to Missy Matthews in a few minutes, but we've

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Speaker 2: got some news of the day to get to here.

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Speaker 2: As we get rolling, I think we will have Steelers

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Speaker 2: injury updates here shortly. But we do have some pertinent

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Speaker 2: ones for Baltimore. This happened after you and I were

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Speaker 2: off the air yesterday. But Lamar Jackson, after being a

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Speaker 2: full participant on Wednesday, was had a issue Thursday with

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Speaker 3: I saw that because I do a Thursday night show

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Speaker 3: with Pursuda and that came up then. But I'm like,

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Speaker 2: So but though according to Lamar Jackson, according to Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: part of me. According to John Harbaugh, Lamar Jackson returned

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Speaker 2: to practice today Friday after missing Thursday with that ankle

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Speaker 3: A hamstring, He's got like four different lower body injuries.

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Speaker 2: He's got the hockey thing, like, yeah, lower body, upper

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Speaker 2: body injury, lower body injury, those are the only two designations.

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Speaker 2: He's got a lot of lower body injury stuff going

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Speaker 2: on right now, does Lamar but return to practice today,

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Speaker 2: but he's dealing with some more potentially nagging bumps and

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Speaker 2: it's good to play and you know and all that,

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Speaker 2: according to to Jim Harbaughs. So that's not the greatest

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Speaker 2: news from from the you know, from the Black and Purple,

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Speaker 2: No right point of your quarterback who's already clearly been

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Speaker 2: compromised with injury this year, having something new pop up,

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Speaker 2: you know, Steelers week.

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Speaker 3: So I have great respect for the betting world in

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Speaker 3: Vegas and their knowledge and all those things.

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Speaker 2: As we always say, right, there's a reason they have

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Speaker 3: One thousand percent. And as usual on a lot of

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Speaker 3: my outlets on Friday, we pick games and especially the

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Speaker 3: of course, and I hadn't realized until my co host

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Speaker 3: this game has been changing. It's been rapidly all week,

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Speaker 3: means money's coming in on one side rather than the other.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Their whole goal isn't to get the line right. Their

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Speaker 3: they don't care if their lines are right, but they

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Speaker 3: more about this injury? Well, I know they know more

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Speaker 3: that's the only thing I could see changing the lines

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Speaker 3: that much. Is is he playing? Is he not? What

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they've been pretty clear that he is playing.

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Speaker 2: But you're right, the big question is what version of

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Speaker 2: all season, but I think particularly in the last few

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Speaker 2: he missed a lot of missing throws, not pulling it

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Speaker 3: The design really telling me they're almost none one or two.

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Speaker 3: Breaks your back on third and eight on the biggest

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Speaker 2: It out, you know, yes, no doubt and so again.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean to be like, yeah, everyone gets

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lamar's hurt, great, right, but you will clearly how

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Speaker 2: that works. You'll clearly take one of the best. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're saying the same thing about Aaron Rodgers. His left

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Speaker 2: wrist is messed up. Maybe he'll bumble a snap and

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Speaker 2: a key moment. The cost of the Steelers. That's just football.

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Speaker 3: Do whatever. I mean, they're they're happy Harmon's not playing

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Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton got ruled out with the flu today. You know,

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't be playing the sympathy card.

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Speaker 3: For no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: So as much as a compromised Lamar is a benefit

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Speaker 2: You got to be cautious about that.

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Speaker 3: Still sleeping giant.

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Speaker 2: You got to be cautious about pressed. You know, you

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Speaker 2: gotta be. Yeah, that's a good point. Ten days rest.

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Speaker 3: Is harball playing games like may how about you don't

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Speaker 3: how about you don't play? Just take Thursday off, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like again the harball Tom and

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Speaker 3: and that's the only way you can I mean, you're

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Speaker 3: crazy If you don't, we're to pretend like you all

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Speaker 3: beat up. And you also have to say that to

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Speaker 3: the media too. But I wonder if there's any gamesmanship

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know that that that I think we

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Speaker 2: won't be Hey.

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Speaker 3: The Browns record would even be playing. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just throw yea.

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Speaker 2: If he was the Joe Burrow type situation, he would

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Speaker 3: I mean, whould be better if he was not on

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Speaker 2: Probably, it's a fair question, and maybe we'll get an

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Speaker 2: even better look at that on Sunday afternoon, Matt. Another

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Speaker 2: piece of news here, not as significant for Sunday's game,

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Speaker 2: but certainly worth mentioning and discussing and sharing. After returning

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Speaker 2: to practice December third, Steelers cornerback Dante Kent sustained a

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Speaker 2: new injury that will cause him to miss the remainder

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty five season. That's a real bummer.

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Speaker 3: That's a bummer.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was gonna have a big role

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Speaker 2: returning to practice for three weeks and getting ingrained and

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Speaker 2: getting back to it to kind of have that to

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Speaker 2: leapfrog into the off season would have been a nice

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Speaker 3: But it's also weird that him and Trice did the

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Speaker 3: exact same thing. The window opens and then they get

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Speaker 3: hurt in their first practice coming back, and I don't

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Speaker 3: and they don't have to tell you as much because

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's what they were just hoping to do

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Speaker 2: West Shuuler, Matt Williamson, It's the Drive on a Friday

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: You know the drill, when you hear the bounce, it's

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Speaker 2: time to get the view from the sideline. It's time

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Speaker 2: of the sideline, Missy Matthews. Missy, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's I think I think Matt said

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Speaker 4: I think, as it always means something. Very rarely do

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Speaker 3: So you go there every year and you have for

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, so they there's a very good restaurant there

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Speaker 3: So I don't mean to bring the mood down. And

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Speaker 4: Might rhyme with his name too, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's right, might flow very nicely there in that regard.

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Speaker 2: a back to basics football one oh one. Who's better

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Speaker 4: the final five game stretch. You know, you're going to

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Speaker 4: see these guys in the final week, which I don't

436
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 4: even think what matter what happens this Sunday, the Week

437
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 4: eighteen game is going to mean something to somebody, if

438
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Speaker 4: not both. And it does just feel like to get

439
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 4: out of this skid, of this this losing skid, the

440
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 4: Steelers have to go down there and put a consistent

441
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 4: performance together both sides of the ball, because what is

442
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 4: happening is just it's just not working. And you can

443
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: tell that everybody wants it to change. But you know,

444
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 4: actions speak louder than words, and I don't think anybody

445
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 4: in that locker room thinks that just talking about it

446
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: is going to make them feel better. You know, the

447
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 4: Ravens were on a five game winning streak until Cincinnati

448
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: broke that on Thanksgiving. For the Steelers, they're in the

449
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 4: two game losing streak. You know, they had one of

450
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Speaker 4: those before and then they came out with a powerful

451
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Speaker 4: win against the Colts. So will that be the case again?

452
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Speaker 4: I hope so. But you don't want to stack a

453
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Speaker 4: loss here, and then I think you're gonna get to

454
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Speaker 4: the point where you're gonna have to worry about what

455
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Speaker 4: other people are doing. If they can just focus on

456
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 4: these last five games and what they are doing and

457
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Speaker 4: doing them well. Hopefully that's the direction we're going in

458
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Speaker 4: and it's not like last year where you make it

459
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Speaker 4: into the playoffs, but you're kind of like, oh, we're

460
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Speaker 4: not playing good football. You want to go in with

461
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Speaker 4: some steam and what better time to start than the

462
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Speaker 4: first week of December.

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Speaker 3: Bessie, I'd really like to get your input on the

464
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Speaker 3: Harbaugh Tomlin dynamic relationship. I mean, do you think they

465
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Speaker 3: prepare differently for one another? Do you think they coached

466
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 3: during the game differently because of one another and the familiarity.

467
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Speaker 3: But really what I want to know is if you've

468
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Speaker 3: ever paid attention to them interacting pre or postgame.

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Speaker 4: Pre game for sure, and I think it was on

470
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Speaker 4: Hard Knocks last year was something with the NFL films

471
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Speaker 4: where coach Tomlin kind of joked like, man, we just

472
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Speaker 4: talked about what our kids like we're dressing up as

473
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Speaker 4: for Halloween. Yeah, right, Like when you this is the

474
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Speaker 4: thirty ninth meeting between them, including playoffs, that that's no

475
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: small number of coaches. Of course, you know they're some

476
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Speaker 4: of the longest tenured coaches current active coaches in the league.

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Speaker 4: But I think they have a respect for each other.

478
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Speaker 4: I think it is a you're not going to do

479
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Speaker 4: anything kind of the I don't want to say college level,

480
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Speaker 4: but almost like I hate him and I'm not shaking

481
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Speaker 4: his hand type deal. But I don't think it's you know,

482
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Speaker 4: I don't think there's no love loss put it that way.

483
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Speaker 4: But I do think that.

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Speaker 3: Each other.

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Speaker 4: No, not at all. No, And it's you know, it's

486
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Speaker 4: like every game, uh, you shake your opponent's hand, you

487
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Speaker 4: hug them whatever. I'm sure you know they're small talk

488
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: before the games have has significantly increased over the years.

489
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Speaker 4: How could it not, And you know, when you're you're

490
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Speaker 4: like each other, not saying necessarily the coaching styles. I

491
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 4: don't know that much about John Harbaugh. I've covered one

492
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Speaker 4: Ravens game, maybe two in my local TV days back

493
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Speaker 4: in the past. But I just think that you know,

494
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Speaker 4: they respect each other, and they know that they're both

495
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: trying to do the exact same thing. It's just who

496
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Speaker 4: can do it better on this day because they know

497
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: that if they played the next day it could be

498
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Speaker 4: the complete opposite result.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if, like five years after they're both retired

500
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Speaker 3: and have given up football for a living and moved

501
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Speaker 3: on and their grandparents if they'd actually be friends, or

502
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Speaker 3: I always joke that I hope there's a thirty for

503
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Speaker 3: thirty or a football life with Ozzie Knew some Kevin,

504
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: Colbert Harbaugh and Tomlin on a fishing boat together, just

505
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: being honest, you know what I mean, Like, man, you

506
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: used to make me I was about to draft that

507
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Speaker 3: guy and Ozzie you snagged them right in front of

508
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Speaker 3: me here. You know, I bet they'd be great.

509
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, Or imagine if they just like

510
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: running out an auditorium, like I'd pay to go watch that. Yeah, yeah,

511
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: tell stories to be produced. Yeah, like just just riff

512
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Speaker 4: and let's let's let's hear.

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Speaker 2: What happened really, missy. Last one I've got for you is,

514
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Speaker 2: you know, we found out a few days ago that

515
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Speaker 2: it's the twenty fifth anniversary of that two thousands Baltimore

516
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Speaker 2: Ravens team that beat the New York Giants in the

517
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl to capture there, you know, first as Baltimore Ravens.

518
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: You know of that that post move era, you know,

519
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: that team with Ray Lewis and that great defense and

520
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: Trent Dilpher as a quarterback. Coach by Brian Billick is

521
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Speaker 2: going to be honored at halftime on Sunday. I'm sure

522
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Speaker 2: that that's not by coincidence that that's happening in this

523
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Speaker 2: game against the Steelers. Are you happy that Max Starks

524
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Speaker 2: is no longer on the sideline and you're not gonna

525
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Speaker 2: have to hold him back against those guys?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, you know, those guys are a going

527
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Speaker 4: to be out there during pregame and b I'm sure

528
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Speaker 4: one of them will get announced at some point, you know,

529
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Speaker 4: almost like when we do the Terrible Chals role. That

530
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Speaker 4: seems like the appropriate time that they would you know,

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Speaker 4: honor those guys, just you know, prematurely before the big

532
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Speaker 4: halftime ceremony. But I remember, I don't remember if it

533
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Speaker 4: was last year, whichever game it was in Baltimore, there's

534
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Speaker 4: been a bunch and some of their former players were

535
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: there and Max was just like, I hate him. I

536
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: hate him, you know, just standing there and it was like.

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Speaker 3: It would have been.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was just so funny. It wasn't like, Hey,

539
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to go say hi to him, because Max,

540
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 4: clearly you knows so many people and it's you know,

541
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Speaker 4: every game, Hey, I'm going to go say hi to

542
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Speaker 4: my buddy over here, I'm going to go this Baltimore

543
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 4: week Max isn't saying hi to anybody.

544
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Speaker 2: Ron Woodson in the Ravens booth.

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Speaker 4: That's yeah, because he yes, they're both in the same time. Yeah,

546
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 4: rod is you know, he likes to play both sides.

547
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 4: Obviously he's working for the Ravens, but did some amazing

548
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 4: things with the Steelers as well. And yeah, that that's

549
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: probably the only Baltimore person that I can think of

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Speaker 4: that I've ever seen Max have like a chit chatty

551
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Speaker 4: conversation with.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Missy, It's gonna be fun and I'm looking forward

553
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Speaker 2: to it. Thank you for joining us and taking the time.

554
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: As always, we'll hear you on the call on Sunday

555
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: with Robin Max and I will see you on the

556
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Speaker 2: airplane tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Sounds good. Thanks guys, have a great weekend you as well.

558
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Speaker 2: There she goes the queen of the Sideline, Melissa Matthews,

559
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: And uh, yeah, I listen. There's a lot of times,

560
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, a lot of times that

561
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: I envy Missy forgetting to be down on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: You see some cool stuff, I'm sure.

563
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: No doubt in cool stadiums in the atmosphere and all that.

564
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: Not that my view is bad in the broadcast booth, obviously,

565
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: but there's plenty of times where I don't envy Missy

566
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Speaker 2: Matthews on the sideline because of weather conditions. Say weather,

567
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: maybe it's pouring down rain or it's freezing, and I

568
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna be freezing, but it will be

569
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Speaker 2: cold obviously Sunday, December and Baltimore. But even with the

570
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Speaker 2: weather I envy. It could be three degrees and pouring

571
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Speaker 2: down sleet and I would still want to be on

572
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: the sideline for Steelers Ravens, just kind of soak it

573
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Speaker 2: allway and get all the details. It's not often in December.

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00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: This is probably how I should have said it. It's

575
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Speaker 2: not often in December that I'm jealous of Missy being

576
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: down on the sideline because of the weather. But I

577
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: will be Sunday. I will be Sunday at one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: That's cool.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to her for joining us and taking the time.

580
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Speaker 2: When we come back on the other side, we still

581
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Speaker 2: got to get into five Star Friday. We've got some

582
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: more kind of you know, ahead of the weekend news

583
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: across the NFL that we need to get into all

584
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Speaker 2: things Steelers, Ravens and more as we roll along. Euler Williamson.

585
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Speaker 2: It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio.

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Speaker 1: Network, your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to

587
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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

588
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Speaker 2: It's a Friday, A lot happening here across the National

589
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: Football League as we get ready for a massive Week fourteen.

590
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: And I guess, technically, Matt, it did start last night

591
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: with Thursday Night Football between the Cowboys and the Lions

592
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: and an impressive and assertive performance by Detroit at home.

593
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: Is they get to win they deeply desperately needed forty

594
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Speaker 2: four to thirty over Dallas, and Matt, that might be

595
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Speaker 2: all she rode for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: I think it is all, she wrote. I mean, they're

597
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Speaker 3: not mathematically eliminated, but they're down to like six percent

598
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: or something. They need everything in the world to line

599
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: up perfectly.

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Speaker 2: Basically went out, yeah and get some help in the

601
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Speaker 2: process as well.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. So quite a few things stood out

603
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Speaker 3: to me. First off, I think the Lions asserted themselves.

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Speaker 3: I picked Dallas to win that game. I don't regret

605
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Speaker 3: my choice, but I mean I didn't also didn't know

606
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: Saint Brown was playing. I mean, had that heinz Ward

607
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: feel about the toughness he brings, watchability and all that stuff.

608
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: Gibbs was the best player on the field and was

609
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: unbelievably you know, dangerous, especially in the receiving game. But

610
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: a couple other things. I mean, the Lions did lose

611
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: Brian Branch for the season at the end of that game.

612
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: That's a big, big deal. The turnovers were massive. It

613
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: means three to zero turnover differential. Cowboys lose Ceedee Lamb.

614
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 3: I think in the second quarter after he was lighting

615
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: them up. Their protection was a big problem. I had

616
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: never heard of the left tackle, the backup left tackle.

617
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: But I don't feel like I need to do a

618
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: whole lot of work on him because I don't think

619
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Speaker 3: he's going to be doing this for a living much longer.

620
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: But they kept leving him, leave him alone against Hutchinson

621
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Speaker 3: and then the other guy on the right side of

622
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: three sacks. I mean, Dak was under.

623
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Speaker 2: Man He was like dodging bullets the whole time.

624
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know it's the topic of the day,

625
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to pick on the guy, but

626
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: it's not good look for Pickens, you know, basically the

627
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: day you get eliminated, you're trotting through routes and doing

628
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff you saw here, you.

629
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Speaker 2: Know, and at a time when CD was out of

630
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: the game injured, right when you when it's like okay, hey,

631
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: your time, like yeah, you know, our other big gun

632
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: on offenses out here, we're on the road, We're in

633
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: a desperate situation. Yeah, that's when you need the cream

634
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: to rise at the top instead of kind of shrinking

635
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: in the moment.

636
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Speaker 3: And I haven't watched every Cowboy snap like I do

637
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: the Steelers, but I have not seen that until this

638
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: point with them. And it wasn't at the very end

639
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: the last you know, like it's the game's over, like

640
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: we need you man, you know, where are you going?

641
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 2: And some more some war of words between him and

642
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: Richard Sherman in the last twenty four hours and and

643
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and yes, that is listen. You know

644
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: we've said many times this year the NFL feels like

645
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: such a week to week.

646
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: League this year.

647
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: Or George Pickens might be the most week to week

648
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: league player in the National Force. Yeah, right, the best

649
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: free agent to be He might be the best receiver

650
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: in the warld world on on certain on certain Sundays

651
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: and Thursdays, and but he he also gives you next

652
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: to nothing on certain Sundays and Mondays and Thursdays. And

653
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: that is the ceiling in the floor in the wowed

654
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: inconsistency that comes with him. And I think a lot

655
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: of people that have spent the last month doing the

656
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, what the hell are the Steelers things thing

657
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: night were kind of like, well, okay, you heard that

658
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: a lot last night. Suddenly all these people were like, yeah,

659
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd pay that guy thirty thirty

660
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: five forty million dollars.

661
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: You know, boy, there was the worst trade, which is

662
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: people say is the worst trade in NFL, worst.

663
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: Trade in NFL history. I mean it's not even the

664
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: worst trade in the AFC North history. All right, as

665
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: the quarterback whose practice window was activated in Cleveland has

666
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: that award locked up? Yeah, but yeah, it was. It

667
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: kind of made me last good, George, No, it was not.

668
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: But in another kind of timely example, it's like the

669
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: same people that would always crush James Franklin and Penn State.

670
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: You can't win a big game, and you got to

671
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: get rid of that guy then going well was Penn

672
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: State thinking getting rid of James Franklin. Come on, you

673
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: can't you can't do you can't tell me how bad

674
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: of a trade it was for the Steelers and then

675
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: be like, oh, well, you know that's why you don't

676
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: want to pay that guy big money. I mean, this

677
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: is there's always a middle ground there that you know.

678
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: I think realistically, you you you knew if you were

679
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: a Steeler fan or somebody who was you know, just

680
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: in tune with these type of things. A couple other

681
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: significant Detroit though.

682
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: I mean, they're not out of the woods. There's a

683
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: lot of battling to do.

684
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: There's still going to be in that NFC picture. I mean,

685
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 2: there's going to be a good team that gets left out. Yeah,

686
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: and maybe in the a f C, you know, similar

687
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: similar type deal. But they're like.

688
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: They're like someone in the in the North is going

689
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: to be left out.

690
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: Someone in the North is in likelihood left out yea

691
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: and yeah, and that could be like a ten and

692
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 2: seven team that gets left out that's really strong, that's

693
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: really strong. Detroit helping themselves, helping their cause big time

694
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: last night. Now they've got the extra few days of rest,

695
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: but they are. Yeah, I think that's a good way

696
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: to put it. Certainly not out of the.

697
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: Weeds just yet, not at all.

698
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: Matt from that last night, A couple more pieces of

699
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: news that I want to hit on. One off the

700
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: back of that game last night, and it sounds like

701
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: Brian Branch a torn achilles and that's a bummer from

702
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 2: one of the better young defensive backs in the National

703
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: Football League.

704
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: So it brought me to I didn't know this until

705
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: the broadcasters said it last night. I knew the last

706
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: thing was true that when you look at like games

707
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 3: lost due to injury, the Lions were like the most

708
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: injured team in the league last year in four years,

709
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, and the announcer said this that they're

710
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: one of there at the top of the league in

711
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: injuries again this year before the branch injury going into

712
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: the game and just wonder, like, Dan Campbell's a really

713
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: good coach. I understand why people love them.

714
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: I think I know where you're going with this, and

715
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: I think it's fair.

716
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: But it's all gas, no break, you know, like everything

717
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: is all whoe no sick them all the time. You know,

718
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: we're just gonna keep going for.

719
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 2: Play harder woe. Yeah, I said that background.

720
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: I wonder if he is going to lead towards injuries

721
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: late in the season, fatigue late in the season. I'm

722
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: not saying he can never win the big one, but

723
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: that would be a concern with me with him. And

724
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 3: it's not his fault that Brian Branch, you know, to Achilles,

725
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: But I get what you're saying. Yeah, I just think

726
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 3: that's something to be considered with Campbell. All these coaches

727
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: have strengths and weaknesses, and you know, he might be

728
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: too much all the time.

729
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: I think that that is it's a fair question to ask.

730
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a propos. I don't know.

731
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: The man like we are all about physicality, hard practices,

732
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: hard training camps like you mentioned. Even games that they've

733
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: got teams put away, it's still like they're a super Bowl.

734
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: We're going for it every fourth down, you know, right, Yeah.

735
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: And and and hey, over the course of seven team games,

736
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: that can certainly catch up with you. I don't think

737
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: there's I don't think there's any denying that.

738
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just need to be examined. You know, if

739
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: I was ownership, I'd be like, Okay, is this a trend?

740
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: Or back off a little bit in August to something

741
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: help our chances in December, or maybe.

742
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: We don't play anyone in the preseason, or I don't know.

743
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: The Branch loss is big, though huge, more and more

744
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: true do it all? Slot defensive backs I don't even

745
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: want to call them corners are becoming extremely valuable. I

746
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: always say they're the lampatize the room together, you know

747
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: what I mean? They and I think that's.

748
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: A few of them picked in the first round over

749
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: the last couple of years.

750
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And frankly, I think that's what Ramsey was

751
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: brought here to do. You know, you can do so

752
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton does a lot of this. They come in

753
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: all shapes inside a perfect one. Yeah, I mean, they

754
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: don't all look like Mike Hilton and a few of

755
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: them do.

756
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: Now I was gonna look, Yeah, they look like safeties.

757
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: Right because they have to tackle Derek Henry, you know.

758
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: And Branch is that guy for them, you know what

759
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: I mean, he super important, more important than the box

760
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: score show. That's It's like, I can't play this.

761
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: Coverage it certainly way that they want to play.

762
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, A lot of stuff I can't call

763
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: as a play caller without.

764
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: Him, absolutely, and that's a big, substantial loss for Detroit.

765
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: Just a total side note. But like I think I

766
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: think we both agree, and I've said this before. I

767
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: thought you did too, that the Texans are probably the

768
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: best defense in the league. You have to pick one.

769
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, if I had to pick one to wear the

770
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: Black and Gold this weekend, it might be that Houston defense.

771
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 3: And a tape analyst that I really respect said, Jalen

772
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 3: Petrie is our most important guy. You know, you wouldn't

773
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: think of Jalen Petrie. I mean, like Anderson would be

774
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: probably defensive player of the Year if it wasn't for

775
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett, you know, and Hunter. But I think those

776
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 3: two are still more important.

777
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: He's but I guess he's like the insurance policy on

778
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: the Porsche.

779
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right right, Porsche is wonderful.

780
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 2: Will Anderson is, you know, is poor. She's the insurance policy.

781
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: Man.

782
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: There's so much I can't do that you keep the

783
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: you keep the fancy car in. There's just so much

784
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: that you can you can't The fancy car isn't gonna

785
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: hum like it's supposed to.

786
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: He's the case for my phone. That's exactly right. Like

787
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: you need to have.

788
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: Maybe he's the gasoline and the.

789
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: Anhere.

790
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not going anywhere without that guy. Yeah, that

791
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: iPhone is going to get real cracked and damage.

792
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: About the version they give you in the box isn't

793
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: gonna last very long, all right.

794
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: He's like the nice wine glass. It's about the wine

795
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 2: wine somewhere to hold it exactly. That's a really good example.

796
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: I like that, and I think you're right. I think

797
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: a lot of defenses that's a real calling card for

798
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: them now.

799
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: And I realize that and people are paying them and

800
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: paying up for them in the draft.

801
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, if you and I had Mike Tomlin on

802
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: back in July at the start of training camp and

803
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 2: gave them truth serum, I think you're right. I think

804
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: that would have been the type of role that they

805
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: were envisioning for Jalen Ramsey before things got never failed.

806
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I think he's semi failed as he's not

807
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: an outside guard Jamar Chase all day, the roll revis guy.

808
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: But I think if you were still if the Shawn

809
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: Elliott's still healthy, if you would hit on one thornhill,

810
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: I think we'd still see Ramsey doing.

811
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: A lot of that stuff and I know this is

812
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: totally made up, but I mean, if you didn't have

813
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: to trade Menca for Ramsey, Ramsey being the slot perfect, Yeah,

814
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: if you give the up a draft pick instead of Menca.

815
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: Matt looks like Jade and Daniels will play for the

816
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: Commanders against the Vikings this weekend since that dislocated left

817
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: elbow nasty, ugly injury about a month ago on November ninth.

818
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: The Commanders are three and nine and have nothing to

819
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: play for. I understand though, that he's still just a

820
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: sophomore in this league. He's a second year guy. Every

821
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: rep is important, Matt. What's our favorite TV show on Hulu?

822
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: The Bear?

823
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 2: The Bear and what's the Big Line? And the Bear?

824
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: Every second counts, every every rep, every game counts for

825
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels at this stage of his career. But man,

826
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: I just really hope they're not rushing him back early

827
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: in a season that's already gone. And uh, I don't

828
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 2: think guy that's been banged up all year.

829
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: I think it's similar to Burrow coming back, but they're

830
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: further down, They're they're further gone. You know, they're three

831
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 3: and nine, and he's not the wealthiest guy on the team.

832
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: I mean, he's the face of the franchise, don't get

833
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: me wrong. But Burrow's playing and you can't stop him,

834
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: you know, And and.

835
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: He's been there for a long time. He is the

836
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: alpha in the room.

837
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: And they just beat the Ravens and they may even

838
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: beat the Bills this week. I mean, like when we

839
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: start picking games the way, I know, since he looks good,

840
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: but I don't know if they can come back or not.

841
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: But Washington has no chance. And I think I would

842
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: have shut Daniels down.

843
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: I get it. And you know dan Quinn saying like

844
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: at his point in his career, every rep counts, every

845
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: game matters. And I do think that there's truth to that.

846
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 3: Sure, Sure, he needs has work to do, he needs.

847
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: To developed like Wolf. We'll I used to lament this

848
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: all the time. He'd be like, the only way to

849
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: get better at playing football is by playing football. Yeah,

850
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: and we play less football now than we've ever did before.

851
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

852
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: So I he's right, He is absolutely right, But there

853
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: is also the big picture, the longer term. He is

854
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: only in his second year, and you hope he's your

855
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: quarterback for another fifteen years and twelve years.

856
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: An injury filed year he had some injury concerns at

857
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: LSU as well. You know, he's not the biggest, earliest

858
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: Josh Allen looking dude either. I get both sides. I

859
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: mean I loved the Burrow said, well, I get paid

860
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: to play football, so I play football. Yeah, I love football,

861
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: And I mean that's what I want my quarterback to say.

862
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to be like, well they

863
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: shut me down, and that's okay. I was just gonna

864
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: sit on sidelines the clipboard, you know, like, yeah.

865
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: I think you are right. Though it's a little different

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Speaker 2: when you're like the what's Burrow now in his six

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Speaker 2: or seventh season, right year veteran as opposed to a

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Speaker 2: second year guy who is, yeah, the face of that

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Speaker 2: team but still trying to earn your stripes, still trying

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Speaker 2: to come along in your career.

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Speaker 3: I mean, everyone knows how important he is to the commander. No,

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Speaker 3: but you know obviously, but still.

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Speaker 2: They're hoping he's Joe Burrow type value for them going forward.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, I either side, whatever happens, I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to act like it's if they play him. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to act like it's the worst colossal mistake

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Speaker 2: we've ever seen, or if.

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Speaker 3: He gets hurt again, It's not like fire Quinn because

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Speaker 3: anyone can get hurt.

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Speaker 2: Anyone can get hurt, especially on that turf there, like

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Speaker 2: we talked about. Oh yeah, yeah, we talked about yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Although I don't know if it's a home gamer. If

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Speaker 2: it's in it is in Minnesota, So never never mind

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Speaker 2: on that one, at least for this Sunday, Matt first

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Speaker 2: hour of the program in the books, another hour to go.

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Speaker 2: When we return for hour number two, it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: jam packed. As a Gene Wilder would have said in

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Speaker 2: the Chocolate Factory, So much to do in so little time.

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Speaker 2: Five Star Friday, around the NFL Week fourteen, and of

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Speaker 2: course all of our final thoughts and predictions for Steelers

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Speaker 2: Ravens Sunday, one pm at M and T. Banks Stadium

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore. All of that and more as we get

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Speaker 2: into our number two on your twenty four seven home

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Speaker 2: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network