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Speaker 1: Radio Network All Stars, All Stars, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cowboys Club here at the Star. Hik

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Speaker 1: Shanning Gross and I will be trying to keep this

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Speaker 1: thing between the ditches tonight, joined by some very special guests.

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Speaker 1: We'll say the best for last him. I right from

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Speaker 1: our flagship station one oh five three the fan Corey Majors.

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Speaker 1: How you doing? Corey doing great? I love the look

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Speaker 1: of this place. It's a beautiful place, so look and

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Speaker 1: the smell smell is great. To his right, my co

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Speaker 1: office mate and uh long time work partner, Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 1: How you doing? Nick? Doing exceptionally well? Thank you, Shanny yep.

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Speaker 1: To your right, probably the most tenured person at the

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Speaker 1: table with the Dallas Cowboy he's Mickey Spagnola. How are you, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: don't right, got him? My right might disa. Why don't

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Speaker 1: you introduce him, Mickey, he's to your right, closest to

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Speaker 1: You have the honors, Well, we have the Cowboys. How

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Speaker 1: should I put this self made player who came in

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Speaker 1: here as an undrafted free agent, grew up in Richardson, Texas, Dallas, Texas, Dallas, Texas,

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Speaker 1: Richards Suberg. Just right, thank you, very good, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls, who is not shy by the way, cowboy's

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Speaker 1: cornerback who I believe still leads the team and interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Am I right? Yeah? I could lead these guys by myself,

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Speaker 1: but I figured it would take about what do you

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Speaker 1: mean they've got like five sections after I got shots.

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Speaker 1: I got shot first of all. Amazing, man, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know you guys were all stars. I didn't vote. Did

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Speaker 1: you get a vote? I was wondering about that. All yeah,

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Speaker 1: all stars. It's amazing. And the food, man, all stars

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Speaker 1: are not. You never fed me, mate, You never fed me.

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Speaker 1: These guys are no. You always left food. I got

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Speaker 1: food here, bro. You when I came here, you just

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Speaker 1: gave me a handshake and pound the back and I

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Speaker 1: was out. Guys are all stars in my book. You're welcome,

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Speaker 1: all right, and you can have more than water too,

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Speaker 1: by the way. Oh see that that's the yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you, there you go. All right. Well, let's talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit before we will dive into some of

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Speaker 1: some things about you ever soon. But you brought it up.

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Speaker 1: You said you could lead this team by yourself in interceptions.

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Speaker 1: What do we think? What's your opinion on the state.

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Speaker 1: We're about halfway through the season. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: of football left, the schedules getting really difficult as we

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Speaker 1: go forward. What's your thoughts on the Cowboys so far

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Speaker 1: this season? What are your expectations going forward? Well? I

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Speaker 1: thought so far or you know, we are who they

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Speaker 1: thought they who they thought we were. And I say

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Speaker 1: that because we always we feel a sense of urgency

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Speaker 1: all the time. When we give ourselves there, then we're like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: let's let's turn it on, and we are amazing when

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Speaker 1: we do that. Right, Starting with the Philadelphia game, it

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Speaker 1: had to be you know, we had to go through

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Speaker 1: that fiasco in the meadowlands the first time, and see,

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Speaker 1: these are the things that make me nervous because why

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Speaker 1: you know, why go through that? You know you were

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Speaker 1: right there? I know the teams that we were playing against.

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Speaker 1: We're a little bit easy early on, played well against

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Speaker 1: the Saints, all things consider, that's a tough place to win.

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Speaker 1: It's a great defense they're playing against. But when you

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Speaker 1: look at all those games, we've always had an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: If we would have just held up our own in

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Speaker 1: those games such as defense, the turnovers. You know, nobody's

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Speaker 1: fired up until a coach has to talk some trash

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Speaker 1: and give you some build up the board material. Now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here we come to me. Man,

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Speaker 1: they are so good they could come out and dominate

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Speaker 1: almost any game in that manner. It might still maybe

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Speaker 1: shown that. Yeah, Corey, on paper, this team, like Everson said,

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Speaker 1: Why can't they get it together? And just put their

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Speaker 1: that was something we were talking about with Mickey earlier today.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they if they do realize how good

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Speaker 1: seem to play better whenever they have themselves in that

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. We've watched him go do what he's done,

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Speaker 1: and he I mean he makes plays. And Bill Parcels

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Speaker 1: guys that just the ball bounces their way. You want

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Speaker 1: more guys that are lucky, uh than than aren't lucky.

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Speaker 1: And we're trying to figure out why a guy like

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Speaker 1: Is it luck? Is it preparation? Is it an instinct?

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Speaker 1: What is it that you always recognize that helped you

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Speaker 1: get those force those turnovers? You know, to me, it

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Speaker 1: he did it well. He anticipated the throw, he knew

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've had so many opportunities to where we

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Speaker 1: made that look too hard. And I always bring up

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Speaker 1: the instance of Jeff Heath playing the ten. I know

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Speaker 1: it's a ten. Everybody's man. The man outside that funneled

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Speaker 1: And it amazes me. The ball hit him in the

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Speaker 1: hitting in the back of the head on a slant

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Speaker 1: for that. Coaching Richard said, my defense is made for turnovers.

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Speaker 1: So he's saying the blueprint is there. The players just

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Speaker 1: have to understand that. And that was a quintessential example

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Speaker 1: I've never seen the ball hit somebody in the back

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Speaker 1: I just like turn and look at the quarterback. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe that was the whole goal, was to boom,

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Speaker 1: but no, it was. Obviously they played different. So what

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Speaker 1: That was it. So I know my limitation, Nick, At

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Speaker 1: discourage or worried about what you've seen dust Clarks Encouraged

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Speaker 1: because they've won two straight. Discouraged that they did lose

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Speaker 1: to the Jets, who might be the worst team in football.

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Speaker 1: That's still gonna be sitting there, but at least they've

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Speaker 1: They've been good at times, but you know what, the

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Speaker 1: depth is not there. It's it's very top heavy when

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Speaker 1: key position is the key H Well, I guess it's

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Speaker 1: fact actors. They're just young. Some of the guys just

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Speaker 1: in tune to you had eleven picks your rookie year, like,

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Speaker 1: and this is their fourth year, Like, when is it not?

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Speaker 1: and Zeke and rushing titles and you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if if they're that

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Speaker 1: a year, this can be a really good team. He

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Speaker 1: them more in the way you had it. I had it, man,

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Speaker 1: what you do? They couldn't see coming. No, it's the

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Speaker 1: you play a really good team, you can't overcome yourself.

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Speaker 1: But they were good enough this pass game to overcome

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Speaker 1: but they gave them so many chances. You can't do

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Speaker 1: that and always overcome yourself. I thought Dak said it

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Speaker 1: with you, Corey. What's the one thing that you're either

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Speaker 1: big guys they can't touch him. He's like the white Frameman.

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Speaker 1: He's like the white Framan a little bit to where

425
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Speaker 1: he he's so quick, he's so small that they're just

426
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Speaker 1: not comfortable going down after him, and he's able to

427
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Speaker 1: dip him every time. He's he's a he's a great

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Speaker 1: addition to this team. You know, the first game he

429
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Speaker 1: played was it so would have been? The third game

430
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Speaker 1: was that Miami was it was Miami? Right? Yeah, the

431
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: old team. The first the first play when they got

432
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Speaker 1: in like three wide receivers and it's Nickel. He got

433
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Speaker 1: double team. It's like they the running back went over

434
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Speaker 1: there and got him with the defensive engine. Yeah, yeah,

435
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: but he was like, welcome back. What about what about

436
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: double team and DeMarcus Lawrence? You're doubling this guy, right,

437
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: But they knew, they knew, they knew. Sometimes I think

438
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: you're talking about the front office and what they do.

439
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes a move you don't make might end up being

440
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: a really great move. I know, we got the Rangers.

441
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Speaker 1: They didn't sign Josh Hamilton one year and he ended

442
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Speaker 1: up kind of spiraling out after that from there on.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't make a move for a safety that'll

444
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Speaker 1: cost you a lot of draft picks. Even if the

445
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Speaker 1: safety has all that talent. Yeah, yeah, you could go,

446
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: we can see that working out. But you know, Randy Moss,

447
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Speaker 1: I mean, I do wonder though, with with with Michael Bennett,

448
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: would they have made that move if Tyrone Crawford was healthy,

449
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: Because I think that some of the best coaches, some

450
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: of the best front offices you look around the league,

451
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: they anticipate. They say, how do we become more adaptable,

452
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: how do we get better? How do we add more talent?

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Speaker 1: They did it with a frugal price. I mean, getting

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Speaker 1: Michael Bennett wasn't expensive. I don't think they I don't

455
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Speaker 1: think they go after and I don't. I got another question.

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Speaker 1: Then did they go after him? If Kristin Hill cannot

457
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Speaker 1: be a healthy scratch, it actually plays like a second

458
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: round pick. He's just not ready. But if he was

459
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Speaker 1: rushing from the from the middle of the line, and

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Speaker 1: like they thought he would, I don't know, if they

461
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Speaker 1: go out and get that, No, I absolutely agree with you.

462
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: And then it became a necessity. Yeah, you know, and

463
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: if they were all there, it would have been a luxury.

464
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: But a seventh round pick. Bring them on, right, because

465
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: these other backups aren't. I mean, they're nice players, right,

466
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: but they haven't produced numbers yet at defensive end or

467
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Speaker 1: in the middle. So bring them on. You got Malik

468
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 1: Collins and you know Michael Man. Yeah, now, Michael Bennett. Good.

469
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: The encouraging thing if you're a fan, is going back.

470
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: You brought it up. The Amari Cooper pick up seems

471
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: like this this, you know, ownership management. They're not stubborn,

472
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: they're not hard hitted. They realize, Okay, we thought we

473
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: could get by without a number one receiver. Didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Let's go get a guy. Okay, Tyrone went down. We

475
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 1: got other guys we can plug in. Let's really go

476
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: get a guy. Let's get a guy in the off season.

477
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: So as a fan like you gotta be encouraged that

478
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: they're really trying to make moves and when now that's

479
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: the only thing they really don't they seem a little

480
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: bit lazy in the off season. It seems like during

481
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Speaker 1: the season, all of a sudden, they seem to be

482
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Speaker 1: very Uh, I hope it's methodical. It's almost like they

483
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Speaker 1: got to make million the off season at all. It's

484
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: like they gotta see it people, Yeah, I see, I'm like, okay,

485
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: they signed a guy's safety. Oh yeah, he was drafted

486
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Speaker 1: in the tenth round and you know he's from whatever

487
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: school and yeah he was on special team. Like, why

488
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: the hell are we signing this guy? So those the

489
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: moves they make in the off season, but doing the

490
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: season when we need it, and they signed guys it's

491
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: almost like a Belichick move. They signed veterans who know

492
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Speaker 1: how to come in and play. Now, you know, being

493
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Speaker 1: at the need a lot of training, you know, h

494
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Speaker 1: Cooper obviously didn't need a damn thing, right, Yeah, and

495
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: so these are these are the kind of moves that

496
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: were made to where these guys stepped in and it

497
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: was a seamless transition. Quinn as well, he came in

498
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: he's ready to go plug offseason thing. But still guys

499
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: that came in were ready to go, so sort of

500
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: like what they did in the old days if you

501
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: think about it, when they struggled in This was before

502
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: you got there, but you were watching them as a kid.

503
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: Right seventy six, they're like, well, we don't have a

504
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: running back that's that top running back. Oh well, let's

505
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Speaker 1: trade up in the draft and see if we get

506
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: this guy named Tony Dorset. Right that work out. And

507
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: then seventy nine when when Ed Jones decided he was

508
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: gonna go boxing and they need another defensive lineman. It

509
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: was like, okay, we're gonna make this trade for John Dutton, right,

510
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: And you played with Duttons right, and they thought he

511
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: was a defensive end, but he turned out to be

512
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: a heck of a defensive tackle inside right, he's huge

513
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: and me, oh my god, yes he's me. He's the

514
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: only person that Tom Lander was ever afraid of White.

515
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Speaker 1: Oh no, we see, Landy was you know, he would

516
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Speaker 1: respect Tom and he was quiet. He was grumpy, but

517
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: he was quiet. John Dudtin was grumpy and loud. Oh

518
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: my god, we'd be stretching. Sounds like, yeah, we're stretching,

519
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: and he just and his voice is like a preacher

520
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: and it's just a big baritone. So he starts fussing.

521
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: Man and tom Land. You can hear everything he said,

522
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: and he acted like he could hear a thing. You

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Speaker 1: know what. Let's take her next break. And I've been

524
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: threatening to do this, but let's have some Everson Walls

525
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: talk when we come back, because these stories. I love

526
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: stories like dropping dimes on people. Man, let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 1: We come back on the Happy Hour. Back to the

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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Happy Hour broadcasting live from

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco, the beautiful

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Speaker 1: Aromatic Cowboys here with my friendly guests tomorrow. I'll start

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Speaker 1: my bad let me get that right, Mickey all Star

532
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Speaker 1: co host here, Corey Majors, Nick Eatman, Mickey Spagnola and

533
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Speaker 1: the greatness of Everson Walls joining us. So let's get

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00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: into a little Everson Walls talk. Let's can I throw something, Madam?

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Speaker 1: You can totally throw something? Okay? Soup nineteen eighty five

536
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: preseason game against He's not making eye contact with you.

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00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: He's checking. He's checking to see how much longer he's

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00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: gonna be. Preseason game, preseason game against the Bears. Randy

539
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: White gets in a fight in a preseason game in London. No. No.

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Speaker 1: Eighty six was the Bears in London? Okay eighty five? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Not the season preseas reason do you remember, Randy? I

542
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: remember the helmet off of Mark Bourts and bunked him

543
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: on the head with him. I missed that and he

544
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: got kicked out of the game. Preseason. Maybe you weren't playing.

545
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: It might have been too good, you know. I was

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00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: a preseason I wasn't paying any attention. What is Randy doing?

547
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: That's like Gogan getting in the fight at the Pro Bowl.

548
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: Who does that? Yeah, Randy. Randy explained it that it

549
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: was hot and it was preseason and he didn't want

550
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: to play. So but you were talking about Dutton and

551
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: you remember how the locker room was divided up in

552
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: those quadrants? What did you call yours? Because um, because

553
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: you had some you know, you guys, people of color. Yeah,

554
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: were on that road and uh reason, Oh my god,

555
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: who was the opposite of color? Yeah? Well he was?

556
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: He was extremely pale. Yeah, yeah, because he slept off

557
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: beach ball because he had in training camp. He would

558
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: come like frizzy, he hung over, so he'd be a

559
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: little green, a little yellow on the on the neck,

560
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: and then the cheeks were red and uh so, ye,

561
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: all these different colors. So plus ELL's called them beach balls.

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00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: So you might have not have heard the discussion the

563
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: Monday after that preseason game, when Randy was right trying

564
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: to explain the fight and Dutton's right next to him.

565
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: He mentioned how loud Dutton is right, and Randy's kind

566
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: of explaining it, and then Dutton, in his loud voice.

567
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: You probably heard it from where you were, goes, Yeah,

568
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: And you know what Randy did after the fight was over.

569
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Speaker 1: He goes, he told him meet me in the parking

570
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: lot afterwards. The whole room getting here. He's crazy, man.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised he didn't say that with a little bit

572
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: more color. Right, Well, yeah, yeah, he's mad. Hey, Mick,

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Speaker 1: you you worked on a documentary, yes, about Everson? Right,

574
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about one of your favorite

575
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Speaker 1: some maybe a tidbit you found out working on that

576
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: documentary or something. I thought that the neat thing was

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00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: that he grew he grew up here. He Hamilton Park

578
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: area of Dallas. Yeah, no, Highland Park, Yeah, Highland Park.

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00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: It was Hamilton, that's what you called it. Only people

580
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: from Dallas would know the clear distinction of those two teams.

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00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: Close to town. He tells its a story about how

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00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: he would ride his bicycle to the training facility, which

583
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: was about a half a mile away. Man, it was

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Speaker 1: a dump. It was a dump. They had been to

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Speaker 1: three super Bowls at that time in that place, in

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00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: that place, and uh, it was ten ten wall ten.

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00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you got let you

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00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: go the home depot and get better material. It looked

589
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: like a When I first saw it, I thought it

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00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: was a transmission repair shop with corrugated metal on the

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00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: outside it and the paint, yeah they painted it blew in.

592
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: The paint would come off on your hands all the time.

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00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: Very industrious. Yes. But he used to go and watch practice.

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00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: I did. Drew Pearson was out there with the big

595
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Speaker 1: aff role and that's when the afros would come out

596
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: the back of the helmet. Yeah, that was pretty cool

597
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: and jump up on the fence. What we did stand

598
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: on people's trump You don't stand on their hood or there.

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00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: You know the cars turn the car. Yeah, stay on

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Speaker 1: the hood and no one you could see over. No

601
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: one chased your way. No, that was a whole we were. No,

602
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: they didn't chase your way. They want you to come see.

603
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: They want you to come see. So we just stood

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00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: up and just watch practice. And then yeah, it did

605
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: get pretty bad when we play the Redskins. There was

606
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: always the holl the days in days. Yeah, so the

607
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: Redskins used to buy rooms over there and they feel

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00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: our practices, they thought, well, yeah, well so they thought

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Speaker 1: enough to where they bought all the rooms out doing

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Speaker 1: Redskin Week and had security walking the floors. Text would

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Speaker 1: buy the soul. I don't know if you would do

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00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: that in a rumor? Would you do that on a rumor?

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00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Text food? He did, he did, and they had security

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00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: walking they could. They would buy out all the rooms

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00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: on that side of the hotel because they feared that

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Speaker 1: the Red Skins were filming our practices. Wow and awesome

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00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: you had you had a part in that. The documentary

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00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be. You know, as a writer,

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Speaker 1: we like to have clever titles and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: and I was really disappointed we were supposed to it

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Speaker 1: would be a full documentary. It was a legend show.

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00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: We started as a documentary, and I thought I had

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Speaker 1: the perfect title for it, cover to cover. Not only

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00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: is he one of the best cover guys that was

625
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: ever had, but I thought your career as as great

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00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: as your rookie year was. Obviously you landed on the

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00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: cover of the Catch. Cover the cover. That's clear. I

628
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: know where you're going. Yet he's crappy. It's in three

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00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: different ways, it really is. Yeah, it's good when you

630
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: could do it three times like that cover to cover

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Speaker 1: your rookie year. Everyone's seeing the cover, Dwight Clark, the Catch,

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Speaker 1: and you're you're on there, your your career, a great career,

633
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: goes to the Giants and years later yeah, ten years later, Yeah,

634
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: says Bravo. I believe on the cover winning the Super

635
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: Bowl for with the Giants, and I just thought it

636
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: was perfect ending cover to cover. That's all you did.

637
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: You were clever like that. Why are you hanging with

638
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: these guys? I don't know, but I'm about to break

639
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: my arm right there, and now you're making you're reminding

640
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: me once again. I forgot to bring that Sports Illustrated

641
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: here to get him to sign it. Which one Bravo. Okay,

642
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: because I'm not saying but you know, there was one

643
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: thing that I remember about this, Um you went to

644
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: grand play. I did why? I followed my girlfriend? Yeah,

645
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: it was really about playing. Yeah, I followed my who

646
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: was who was my wife? Now? Good? Yeah, so we're

647
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: still together. Turned out to be a good decision, I was. Man,

648
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm made good decisions once I once I I'm like

649
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys once I get my mind going, Yeah, I'm good.

650
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: So why grambling? Other than that, that's it. That is

651
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: pretty much the fact that there was an HBCU. And

652
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: to be honest, I thought it just came around. Uh

653
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: like when she told me, and you know the story,

654
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: because she knew what she was going. I don't want

655
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: to play one year of high school football, that's it. Yeah,

656
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for to be big time football player.

657
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: I really like basketball better. And so here it is,

658
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: I put this helm and on, get all these paths,

659
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: and I just want to do all that and that's

660
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: too much stuff. So uh my my my girl. At

661
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: the time we were we had just started dating. And man,

662
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, when you got a good woman, you know

663
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: when you got one and you're like man, I cannot

664
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: let this go something that she's going to grammar all

665
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: them big buff brothers up there and lot, and so

666
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: that was my reason for following her to watch her.

667
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: So then but at the same time it's like, wow,

668
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: Andy Robinson, you know what I mean. And then and

669
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: it being the HBCU and you know, everybody knows the

670
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: history I've had in the Richardson School district, not just me,

671
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: but the history that that we have had as when

672
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: we were integrating at the time. You know, from I'd

673
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: say eleven years on, it was all about race. My

674
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: whole life was about race. I started to learn about it.

675
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: It was in my face. I had no choice but

676
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: too from being in Hamilton's Park, you know, that little

677
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 1: h isolated community, and then but you're surrounded by people

678
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: of other persuasion. So you you always felt that's that

679
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: pressure of being closed in whenever there was a confrontation

680
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: where there was even regulations or rules or anything. So

681
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: being able to go to Grambling after being surrounded by

682
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: that negativity and pressure, and you know, you just always

683
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: felt like you never had the benefit of the doubts

684
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: for anything. And so when you like that, your your

685
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: self work is pretty bad. And even though you might,

686
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, feel good about life, you always have that

687
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: feeling that that pressure, that's something holding you down. And

688
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: going to Grambling changed all of that. You know, when

689
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: you can set up and talk to Eddie Robinson or

690
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: just listen to him talk, don't say a word, just

691
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: soak it in. It's amazing. And then just not just him,

692
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: every coach that you meet, all these HBCU co which

693
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: is these are guys that I never read about here

694
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: in Dallas. You have to read about them in the South.

695
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: Eddie Robinson had a show on TV on Sundays, but

696
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to Churchyard. I wouldn't you know. I didn't

697
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: get a chance to see it. So even though it's

698
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: only four hours away, it's a world away for me

699
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: at that time as an African American kid, I needed that.

700
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: I needed to bring up myself worth so that I

701
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: can communicate with people like I'm doing that. I had

702
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: to have your coaches, your coaches in your career, yeah right, serious,

703
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: starting with Eddie, Tom Skip, Jimmy, Bill, Bill and Bill,

704
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: and I always have to bring Jimmy. Skip Jimmy because

705
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: Jimmy kicked you off the field, or try to kick

706
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: you off. He did. There's no tribe. It was his field,

707
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: this team. You say, go, I'm out, buddy, and uh,

708
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: but safety would have given your help in that game.

709
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: I tell you this much talk about coaches. You talk

710
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: about coaches, and I always forget it because it's just

711
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: it's boring ending. My dad was my best coach. For real.

712
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: If if he doesn't teach me how to track a

713
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: ball in the air, then we're not we're not even talking.

714
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: We won't even know each other without that. I mean,

715
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't even I couldn't catch a ball. So't we

716
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: talking baseball? That's how I learned to catch the ball.

717
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: That's how I learned to give him inceptions, was tracking

718
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: the ball in centrefield in baseball, trying to track it down.

719
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: You know, you know why I was the only black

720
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: kid on the baseball team, the only black kid on

721
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: the baseball team. Piccher ain't catcher CENTI field. Get him

722
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: Willie Mays, you know, so everybody wanted me to be

723
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: Willie Mays. I'm like, I can't even catch this trap.

724
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: It's just moving and moving. And I asked my dad.

725
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: I said, uh, Dad, And he was my He loved

726
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: baseball because Jackie Robinson all of that, and he said,

727
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: uh uh, you need to run on your toes. That's all.

728
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: He said, you need to run on your toe because

729
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: as kids, you know, I'm nine, ten years old, that's all.

730
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: We're just running any kind of way we can. And

731
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: I made the concerted efforts that when the ball was

732
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: in the air, I ran on my toes and it

733
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: worked immediately. You know, when you're a kid and something

734
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: catches on like that, you don't forget it, bro and

735
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, now, it's instinctive. And to me,

736
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: if he doesn't teach me how to do that, and

737
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: then I don't, I wouldn't. I would be a woozier,

738
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, cover them real well. But never well, I

739
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: put it like this, he's close, and I do like

740
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: his I got it, man. I do like the fact

741
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: that you know he's tough. Man. He and Byn Jones

742
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: they don't get get picks. But I gotta say they're

743
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: pretty good covered. You can kind of run. They're pretty

744
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: good cover corners, guys. I gotta give them credit. I

745
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: don't know why they don't catch the ball. Hey, they

746
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: do what they gotta do. But man, those guys, pretty

747
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: good cover corners. Let's take a quick break. We were

748
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: talking about coaches. When we come back to get your

749
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: favorite Tom Landry story. And then let's close it out

750
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: with our thoughts on our thoughts on what we expect

751
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: out of the rest of the season when we come

752
00:46:12,320 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: back on the Happy Hour. Back to the s WBC

753
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Happy oh yea broadcasting live from the

754
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. But we are back,

755
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: and before we get into our final thoughts here from

756
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco, thank you s

757
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: WBC for having us out, Thanks for the Cowboys Club,

758
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: for this wonderful food, this wonderful drink, and this wonderful

759
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: fellowship that we had had here tonight. My wife was

760
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: actually watching and she said, I gotta look, I gotta

761
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: look him up. I canna look at every ball, And

762
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: then she's wow, he's bawling. At least she knows a

763
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: significance of that. I wonder how far back we'd have

764
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: to go from a team perspective to find fifty seven interceptions. Yeah,

765
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: that's a great you know what, let's look that up tomorrow. Yeah,

766
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: I think that's a good number for you, Corey. Let's

767
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: do that. Let's do that research. Well he's having flashbacks,

768
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: can go ahead. I found a real weird stat out

769
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: a while back. I didn't know that Dean Kane in

770
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: college is the leader in UH interceptions for a game

771
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: in his career while he was playing with Jason Garrett

772
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: So and Jason has some really cool stories. I don't

773
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: know how I do that, but probably on my show

774
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys Fans. But when you get that number, save it

775
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: for Friday, because I'm not on tomorrow. Okay, when you know,

776
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: when I was seven years old, I went to the

777
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: Rams Cowboys playoff game with one of the coldest games ever,

778
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: and we we actually in the end zone. Yeah Bill

779
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: part I mean Bill Bates was rookie year and my

780
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: dad we took a sign and it said Bill Bates

781
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: went swimming this morning. And we weren't going to put

782
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: it in there, and we actually did, and we put

783
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: it right next to another sign that said up the wall.

784
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: And that sign stayed up there for years and every

785
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: time I would see it, yards went down. You know,

786
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: we probably blew down whatever. But your that sign was

787
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: in Texas Stadium, probably your whole career, wasn't it. Yeah Yeah,

788
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: well no that I met the guy that made it too, Yeah, lawyer. Yeah,

789
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: I went by, happened to be in his office one

790
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: day trying to raise some money, and he comes out.

791
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, but he's Hispanic guy. And

792
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: he came around the corner man and he had it

793
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 1: in his office. I saw it. It was in his office.

794
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: Eighty three or eighty five. Well, eighty three was the game. Yeah,

795
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: the horrible game. Yeah, Dickerson goes for like the almost

796
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: two hundred yards. We got upset at home. It was

797
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: the worst game. I know you felt like crap after

798
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: that game. Well, I was seven years old. You know.

799
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: My dad said, if you tell, if you just we

800
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: don't get nachos right here, I'll take it to the

801
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: best steak house in town. And we went to Old

802
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: San Francisco where the girls singing around all that. Yeah,

803
00:51:54,560 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You were like, wow, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

804
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: Tom Landry story. Tom Landry story. You know they actually

805
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: had a an assassination a room of an assassination attempt.

806
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: It was against the Rams. Tom Like yeah, Yeahheim, I

807
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: think the funny thing. And you know at that time.

808
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: We didn't take it seriously. I'm sure security did because

809
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: they had to Larry Larry Wansley for me FBI. Yeah,

810
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: he had that's his job. And uh so on the

811
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: way to the game, you know, we're worried about him.

812
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: They're worried about him. Yeah, as far as he they

813
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: might take a shot at him on the bus. And

814
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: it's easy to pick time out because he got a

815
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: freaking hat on, right, right, So then what they think,

816
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: So they have they have one of the coaches stand

817
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: in as a as a you know, decoy or whatever,

818
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: and it was alive a member Coaslavania. Yeah. So you know,

819
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: he had a huge head, he said, was bigger than

820
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: most heads, and he's black and he had a little fro.

821
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god. They tell him to put it, put

822
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: the hat on, and he said in Tom's c oh

823
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: my god. That was hilarious. Well, you know, during the game,

824
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: they actually walked him off the field in the second

825
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: quarter that check him to the locker room. And then

826
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: in the half he came back and he had they

827
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: put they made him put a bulletproof vest on. No

828
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: one still within twenty feet of him. Danny White, Danny

829
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: White will tell you No. He was next to him,

830
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: and he kept edging down and edging down. He goes,

831
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, hey, hey, you can't tell me. O. God,

832
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: that was hilarious. And then of course it was a

833
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: false one of the greatest coaches of all time, and

834
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: then that's the story. Another guy came in there, Wisdom.

835
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what about the Leasha man? You what

836
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: about Harry? You're gonna say Alivan next to your wife?

837
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's too funny, man. That

838
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: was amazing. We got about three minutes to wrap this up,

839
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: so I want to get your thoughts. Corey will start

840
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: with you on what are your expectations of this team

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I mean, I expect him

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Speaker 1: to go to the Bowl and win it. But I

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Speaker 1: mean that's what I wanted before the season, realistic expectations.

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Speaker 1: I expect them to get to get pat getting to

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Speaker 1: the next level in the in the playoffs, NFC championship games,

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Speaker 1: back an NFC championship game. They have the talent to

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Speaker 1: do it. They might not have the death to do it,

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Speaker 1: but they have the talent to get there. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's you know what Jerry Jones is kind of

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Speaker 1: intimated is that this is gonna be the thing. We

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Speaker 1: got to go to the next place. If Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: wants to stick around, if Dak wants to get that

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Speaker 1: big contract, these guys want to do it, they got

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Speaker 1: to go to the next level. We got to see

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Speaker 1: if this Cowboys team has another gear. Yeah, I'm just

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00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: gonna take it to the end of the month. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna beat the Patriots. I'm just gonna say it. They

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Speaker 1: will beat the Patriots. Yes, Now, do they beat the

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Speaker 1: lines the week before, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: And if they don't, that's exactly why they'll beat the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: But I think that that what you're saying. The talent,

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Speaker 1: you know, I do wonder about the depth, but I

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Speaker 1: do think that they are good enough to go beat anyone.

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Speaker 1: Now they've proven they can lose to anyone. But I

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Speaker 1: do think they'll go up and I think that they will.

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Speaker 1: Um they're good enough to beat the Patriots because when

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Speaker 1: Tom he has problems, it's because he's got these guys

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Speaker 1: right in his face. And I think, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: what these guys can get there. I think with Bennett

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Speaker 1: now and I think he might be upset by that game,

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Speaker 1: he might be ready to think you'll have some motivation. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this question. Okay, I like questions.

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Speaker 1: So they've got eight games left, yep, which game won't

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Speaker 1: they be favored in? Anybody else? Maybe the Eagles is

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Speaker 1: just maybe unless they screw up before the Eagle And

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Speaker 1: we don't know what the Eagles are gonna do. Earlier,

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Speaker 1: earlier in the year, you would have said Chicago, but

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Speaker 1: it's not looking like that now, so you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: but first things first, right, Minnesota's gonna run the ball

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Speaker 1: at him. And when they've had problems previously, like last year,

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Speaker 1: people ran the ball at him. And you know this year,

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Speaker 1: last month, Mike Mike Zimmers coming in with two tight

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Speaker 1: ends and Delvin. They're gonna say, here, Delvin Cook, see

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Speaker 1: what you can do. But I'm saying that that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the only game they may not be NFC championship

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Speaker 1: game or no. Yeah, absolutely, they're good enough to do that. Nick,

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Speaker 1: you think they make it the championship game? Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say no because I've been here twenty years and

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Speaker 1: I've never seen it. Show me right, I proved me wrong. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I say I say they'll make it to the championship game.

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Speaker 1: From Bear, it's up to them, Bro from Barriss up

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Speaker 1: to them. Rematch with the Saints. Unfortunately, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the same. I don't see my picture of all the

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Speaker 1: time you might be able to make out there. What

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Speaker 1: team on the schedule, just real quick, go down the line.

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Speaker 1: What team on the schedule do you fear the most?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills are actually an interesting and interesting

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Speaker 1: little group for the Cowboys. Okay, Um, Lions game could

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Speaker 1: be tricky at the at The Lions really could be tricky, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: Patriots at home Bills, Bills, Bills, Bills make me nervous.

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Speaker 1: You're like one and one and the same. Yep, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just feel like the Lions game though, that's one

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Speaker 1: that they probably should win, but you never know, and

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Speaker 1: we look at us looking ahead. Well, fellas, this has

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Speaker 1: been awesome. Thank y'all for helping me keep this mostly

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Speaker 1: in between the ditches we got to get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in to the Happy Hour.