WEBVTT - Conversations About Consensual R*pe 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.400 WA's up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.520 Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:19.239 loaw glasses Malone Peek. So this Oklahoma City, that's the 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:20.439 only thing you got going on on that. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:27.360 That's all I got going on to dry autumn. Oh. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.920 On the other unrelated note to go back to a 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:38.600 way earlier podcast, I tweaked my risk exposure model, and 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.239 for the sports betting thing, I'm up one hundred I'm 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.320 up one hundred and twenty five percent in one month. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:50.720 Peeps cracky. So this nigga peep man, he just goes 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.200 around doing shit. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:57.600 With money, just like like a like a specific type 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:58.960 of gambling or something. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:00.880 You need to anything. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.959 I'm chronically unemployed, so since like since I can't get 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.559 a job, I gotta give my money little jobs for them. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.760 To do right right right. So you're like, oh, that 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:11.959 can make some money right there. Let me throw something 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.760 right there, Yeah, let me do that. That looks good. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.160 All I do. That's all I know how to do. 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:18.760 That's funny if you're nice. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.520 If I had more money, actually get some whit accomplishment 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.640 right right right when this is. 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.200 What most white people do, like y'all, just like I 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.959 know that shit. It'd be a lot of stereotypes about 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.760 white people, and you know, the main ones that all 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.880 white people have money. And I know that's not true, 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.520 right because I know some pro white people. They just 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.160 not from California. I don't know no poor white people 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:44.920 from California. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:47.840 You gotta you gotta go over the hell. You gotta 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.120 come down the grapevine for that. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.520 Even the ones I think that don't be having nothing. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.120 I used to have a joke with Head, I swear 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:56.559 to God, I used to tell him all the time, 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.480 like white people get to California in here it into 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.480 one hundred thousand dollars to start life. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.080 So all true in a couple spots. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.400 So you're on the motherfuckers on the street, aint all 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:11.200 the niggas. 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.040 But it's different the white people that want to be Okay, 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:20.600 let me not even have this conversation. White people are free, bro, 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:25.000 Like they really live their life free. Like I'm telling you, man, 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.640 me and Pete, Pete the money I'm about to make 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.000 over the next twelve months. Me and Pete pretty much 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.760 have it planned out. But sometimes it's scary because Pete 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.720 probably don't even care about like if pete go back 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.239 down to zero, that's nothing. You know, I'll figure it out. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:44.400 I've never had worth than half of one dollar. I 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:48.000 have had a disposable dollars since I like twenty two 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.560 years old. Two since twenty four, so it's twenty four. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.679 I've had disposable dollars. I was twenty four years old. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.959 This is what I always say, Like, do you really 0:02:56.040 --> 0:03:02.840 believe in racism? No, peak, do you believe in it. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.440 That it can happen? Yeah? 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:04.400 I mean do you believe it exists today? 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.799 Yeah? In pockets? Sure, I think as it's. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.480 And I'm not talking about I'm not talking about like 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:15.040 that old southern white racism like hanging you know, black 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:20.600 folks and shit. I mean like literally not giving like 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.000 a couple of different things, right, black people playing ketchup 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.480 right where they're behind and they're trying to catch up 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:31.040 to everybody that's free and clear. Obviously, you know you're 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.359 from a disenfranchised group compared to the regular white man. Right, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.640 even most Italians can go them. I think they're white 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.080 till they come, you know what I mean? Because you're 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.840 Italian is different, Like you're not an English white man. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.440 I'm not like heavily Italian. I find it's been for 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:47.720 a long time. But like Italian people not being considered 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:53.840 white as yeah, that's a stretch, George. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.440 I agree, because Italian people are white. I argue with 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.080 the Italian people that tell me they wasn't white, you know, 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:06.920 just to get a handout. I hrish people for a 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.560 long time. I got treated pretty fucked up. But this 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.360 is why I'm asking, right, I was thinking about a 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.320 couple of things, right, and I had this argument with 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.960 Charlot Magne. This has been an argument I've been having 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.360 with Charlot Magne for four years, five years. I'm like, Yo, 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.240 these niggas is lyning about how much money they got. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.680 He like, when you think Oprah's lining and you think 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.160 Jay Line, I'm like, hell, yeah, they lying, you know 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.880 what I mean? Are they lying like, oh I got 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.919 this much money in my pocket? Though? Are they lying 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:40.800 like I'm I'm I'm When they start talking about network, right, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.120 everybody the conversation is, huh. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.760 Everybody is lying about network because he can't really he 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:52.240 don't believe me. It depends on it depends on the context. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:58.279 In the context of the net Worth conversation, they're telling 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.200 the truth in the context of taking the net worth 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:06.920 conversation and into straight liquidity, they're they're all lying because 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.719 it's a fuse conversation because the sale of the thing 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.120 devalues the thing to the point that no longer could 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.560 be realized. That's the thing that's being represented as. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.599 But even further than that, though, Pete even further like 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.040 if Oprah is worth three billion, she could never get it. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.560 She couldn't liquidate everything she got and get it. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:26.520 That's what I just said. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.520 But I'm saying I'll save it, not even digitally, like 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:31.760 they can't do anything. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.040 And she could sell it on a buyer. People do that. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.880 It would have to be a singular acquisition, and it. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:42.000 Still wouldn't work. It wouldn't work because if people paid 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.440 you what you worked, they couldn't profit off of your talent. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.560 You get what I'm saying, Like when somebody saying somebody's network, 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.680 I'm thinking about what they're worth to everybody else. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.760 See, it's funny, that's an interesting point that you're making 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.680 because I was just doing the same thing with a 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:04.359 macro cash flow diet about the manipulation of value and 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.680 wages in the country over the past quarter century. Nobody 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.040 wants to pay anybody a wage upfront. So what we're 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.240 seeing in the economy as a macro and a flow 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.039 of capital is I don't want to pay you right 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.440 now one hundred thousand dollars for what you're going to do. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.440 I want to pay you fifty thousand dollars. I'm gonna 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.800 defer you into a four toh one K, and then 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.840 we're gonna manipulate the economy in general through your black 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.120 Rocks and whatever else to prop up the equity values 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.040 in all the stocks that give you your four to one 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.360 k's value, so that I can kick the can down 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.280 the road on your compensation by essentially only in real 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.160 time giving you a dollar ten. It's I give you 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.920 your dollar, you get your additional ten. But in reality, 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.760 by the time it's claimable, you're getting the two hundred 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:51.440 dollars because we've manipulated the entire compensation package for a 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.279 time distribution apparatus. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.800 No, I get what you're saying. So that's still all 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.400 related to inflation steal. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:05.160 Inflation plays? Is that could happen about? Yeah, it's sucking 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.640 a value out of other places. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:15.000 For sure, sure, sure included. So long story short, I 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.560 was saying, if open is worth three billion, right, like, 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.160 there's nothing she could sell. She could sell everything she 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.360 ever had in her life and they wouldn't equal to 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.960 three billion dollars. She wouldn't have three billion dollars, niggas. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:28.760 I'm talking about even before taxes. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.960 And why is that? As she said, I think she 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.560 got that's not even though it's they say it's the 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.400 network and don't it's not really worth what they say 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.040 in the network is her existence is worth the. 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.040 Well, look at what's this? Look at Stirling for example, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:48.640 right from the Clippers sale. His net worth was less 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.280 on paper prior to the sale. Then it wasn't after 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.240 the sale because some clown overpaid for the Clippers by 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:59.200 like sevenfold. And if somebody wanted to buy Harpow or 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.240 whatever the hell that thing it's called lock stock and barrel, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:03.720 they could buy it. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.280 Yeah, but I don't think that's I think I think 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:11.760 most people with money underrate their network. I think I'm 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:17.000 so trying to market wealth and success, they over they 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.920 overinflate their network because they know most people are ignorant 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:21.840 to what they work. 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.720 Whatever they say, what your marketability is? 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:25.680 Yeah the truth? 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:26.760 Yeah, jay Z. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.800 Yeah, no silings, no sillings. G L Pete Pete spot 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.599 got my brother Joey west side. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.160 You and like what jay Z says on a microphone 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.319 and what jay Z's accountant rights to the I R 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:44.839 s not gonna. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:50.120 Match even even minus the irs. It ain't real. That's 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.280 that's no shade to you know. My one of my 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.600 favorite rappers of all time is just we are in 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:01.040 the business, you know, hip hop especially. It's funny because 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.559 they call themselves disliking Donald Trump, but to me, they 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:07.240 took every part of his business, his business style of 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.840 what he does as a brand is what every last 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.760 hip hop artist is running today. I mean they're selling success, 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:14.560 they're selling will. 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.720 So they look at the court case from today, you know, 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.520 like at the court case in New York from today 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:26.880 over this bullshit property appraisal. They're saying that he took 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.800 a loan out against a property, he put it at 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.719 value X. He'd got the money, he paid it back 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:38.240 to the bank with interest. Nobody complained bank, nor him. 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.960 Latitia James, the attorney the DA in New York, is 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.280 hauling him into court saying that he committed fraud by 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.680 putting a false appraisal value on an asset. It's the 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:57.199 most bullshit claim I've ever seen in her a courtroom. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.240 But it made me think about some shit. And I've 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.520 been looking at like Puff. Puff is in the media 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:07.480 a lot, lady, right, obviously with all this Tupac shit 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.319 going and people thinking that Keith d talking is what 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.559 got you know, the arrest warrant for you know, the 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.000 tragical murder Nevada, and it's not, I mean, some other 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.120 evidence that people don't really know about. It will come 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.880 out and everybody figure it out. But obviously, if people 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.280 believe the story you know that Kify is saying publicly, 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.200 they'll be talking about Puff getting arrest. So I've been 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.760 seeing his name in the press, but I noticed through 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.679 other stories that wasn't really what I wanted to talk about. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:41.400 Puff has been taking such a hard everybody's been punching 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:46.840 on Puff, you know, socially, on different conversations of royalty 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.920 publishing and masters. I would the first thing was the 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:54.480 Locks and the Locks were talking about Puff having their 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.440 publishing right for years. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.679 I hate what artists do. That shit ex post factor. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.360 I hate it exactly. Why do you hate it self? 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.920 Chicken shit? You signed a contract you were thrilled to 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.280 death today. You signed the contract, you got the money 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.160 up front, you were short sighted, and then you spent 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.080 all the money. And now you're bitching because of the 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:17.360 contract that you signed. Bitch, ass shit I've ever fucking seen. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.640 Agreed, agreed, and he is irritating the ship out of me, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.360 like I was looking at Jada kissing. Obviously, I have 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.120 a huge respect for the Locks, you know what I mean, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.400 great brothers, even great brothers to know. But I just 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.360 was listening to him talk shit about puff. I was 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:35.600 listening in the mace talk shit about this is crazy. Like, 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.280 I know, he hit them boys with six figures to 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.400 do these deals. He gambled on them. Six figures. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:47.080 Yeah, six figures in nineteen ninety five, six six figures today. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:51.560 But six figures with no records, yeah six figures without them. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.079 You know, they don't have a month, they don't have 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:53.760 a hit ricord. 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.880 Just because I believe that, y'all, I believe it could work. 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.520 How hard is it to clear three hundred thousand dollars 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.839 Independent with no help and walk off with. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:11.760 It shit off of records? Yes, ship back then you 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:16.240 would need to sell probably Independent would probably need to 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:17.200 sell five half. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:17.960 A million records. 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.240 You have to have a big trunk. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:24.160 Yeah, half a million singles today it's life versually impossible, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.520 you know, I mean to do it just and to 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:33.400 clear it. Yeah, you'd have to stream billions, right to 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:39.120 get well, one million, one million is three thousand dollars, 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.800 so one hundred million is three hundred thousand dollars. Hopefully 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.600 it should be a little bit more. So what is 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:49.359 gonna take to market a record to one hundred million streams? 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.400 You said you got a couple of niggas doing that. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.960 Yeah, but they they're not independent. He said, You're gonna 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:02.680 spend five get three dred thousand. You probably need shit, 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.360 you probably need to do. You have to lie if 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.280 you got your del but you're gonna have to spend 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:12.960 to market three hundred thousand dollars worth the streams profit. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.040 You might have to spend half a million dollars, maybe 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.120 even a million. 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.120 Dollars just to make the three hundred. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.000 You're gonna make more, but he said, to clear three hunds. See, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.360 he used see the pee man with peace starts off 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.120 or fighting. He gonna use specific words, and I would 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:28.800 listen to every word. 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:33.240 He asked, Well, like at the same time though, at 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:37.760 that during their period with Bad Boy, those guys that 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.440 they went out and did a huge nightclub event on 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.400 New Year's in New York. They ain't got a big 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.280 old sack of cash for showing up. That was their cash. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:47.920 They didn't have to kick that upstairs. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.760 That was theirs, right, Yeah, yeah, But it's not just that, right, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.920 It's like, let's say Mason and Locks, Well, let's take 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.320 the Locks. The Lock situation is unique because the Locks 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.800 didn't really make no records for Bad Boys. Let's say, 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.960 let's say he gave the Locks three hundred thousand dollars 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.040 in publishing. They didn't make three hundred thousand dollars of 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.079 publishing when it was with Bad Boy, like he for sure, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.560 as far as the publisher side of that deal, for sure, 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.840 they left that he didn't have He didn't recoup his money. 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.160 Did he verse, So Benjamin's wasn't worth that. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:22.880 Eventually, it's six, it's six, it's six record's six people. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.400 I think how many people's on it's all about the 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.320 Benson five or six people, Yes. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:32.680 But made it everybody else, everybody else Those just added 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:34.600 value to them. They didn't add value to it. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.880 And six people, so it's five or six people, right, 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.400 and then and it's funny because I just knew that 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:40.040 right off the river. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.880 It's funny the locks, puff Cam and Biggie. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:48.040 And then you got this big sample. So let's say 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.360 let's say this song is worth Let's say why they 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.920 was on Bad Boy, that song was worth two million 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.480 dollars of publisher which that would be a stretch. It's 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.600 a lot of money for one song for publishing, you know, 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.120 SA like that. Maybe I'm missing you songs could be 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.040 worth that kind of money. But let's say that it's 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:06.720 all about the mentioning this song is worth two to 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.880 three million dollars in publishing roughly. That's that's somewhere close 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.640 to what it could be worth in that time period. Right. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.120 The sample is probably eating up half of it, right, 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.600 But that's also why you gotta hit record and then 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.680 you gotta you gotta split it up amongst everybody else 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.720 on the writer side, right, whoever is writing the chorus, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.800 because it all breaks down to small percentages. If it's 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.240 six people on one song and the hook, and it's 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.160 different people that write everything, it might break down to 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:42.320 like eight eight and some change. Maybe eight in a 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.800 quarter if it's six people, so it might be six 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:54.360 to two third, So it might be like eight you know, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.640 you might get eight and three three three percent of something. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.160 You know what I'm saying, it ain't worth it. You 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.840 know what I'm saying, it ain't worth it. So when 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.320 they walk off from the label, right, they still in debt. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.920 They publish, it still ain't really recoup the money. So 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.160 then they go to Rough Riders and they start making 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.280 a shitload of money. Right, they start having more success, right, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:17.680 they on more records. Now he's probably breaking even you 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.000 know what I'm saying, when they get to the rough 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.360 Riders deal, well, into the Rough Riders deal, and then 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.720 now after that he starts to make money on the investment. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.080 And years then't passed by at this point. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:34.560 Right, So listening to them complaining, it's like crazy. It's like, well, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.480 if a nigga frontire three hundred thousand dollars, you know 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.400 what I'm saying, he's supposed to want to make money 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.240 even if it's taking time. And just to listen to complaint, 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.440 even Mace, like Mace, the way makes me sounding that 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.360 shit be sounded crazy. Like I'm a huge Mace fan. Cuz, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.640 but the like Puff made that nigga out of nothing. Now, 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.760 don't get me wrong, murder Mace with sound Dog. But 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.280 it's like this nigga is the hottest nigga in the 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.840 music business at the time, he got the heart, the 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.480 his orders in the music business and big at the time, 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.400 like he his first look to the world. Nigga. He's 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:11.080 on a song with one twelve and Big Facts. That's 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.920 like grandfather you. That's like grandfathering you into success. 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.400 Like you just. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.840 Walk right into a fucking dynasty, right, I mean, you 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.360 just walk right into a fortune. And it's like, don't 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.000 get me wrong, Mace carried his part of the deal 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.200 because I remember that verse the first day I heard it. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:35.040 So he shine or whatever he gave that nigga was 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.520 a gamble. And for him to be talking crazy about 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.760 a nigga that changed his life, I don't give a 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:46.000 fuck what you think is going on these niggas is crazy. 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.159 Matt Listen, mac Ten has done some shit that I 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.480 don't like. Birdman has done some shit. I will never 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.879 You'll never see me nowhere publicly talking about no nigga 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.280 that changed my life. That alone, like Macey, life is 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:08.280 che so that he's the millionaire because of that. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.080 That goes into a character thing, right, and maybe it's 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.360 you know, it's something that it don't you think they 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:14.720 did that based though ignorance. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.920 Well, he did have some things to say about Mace. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.520 What do I think it was going by? No, I 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:27.280 don't think it's down by. I think they're being selfish. Okay, 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:29.800 I don't think it's really so you. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.919 Feel like they being selfish and knowing, like y'all know, 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:34.320 y'all's bullshit, but we. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:34.879 Still want that. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.480 It's like a fad everybody does. Ashanti did that shit 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.080 I saw. I had a conversation with Malcolm Maze a 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.920 while ago about and it wasn't like the guy I'm 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.360 going to name as the example, but there was talk 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.679 about how oh ice Cube only paid pigionship money to 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.160 all the people when he did the Independent first Friday 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.879 out of his own pocket and then it made so 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:59.200 much fucking money. Yeah, but like Chris Tucker got paid 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.359 pigionship money on Friday, but Friday got him the rush 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.520 hour fucking deal. Friday got him twenty million dollars on 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:11.040 the next deal, and nobody he didn't pay tribute to 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.320 fucking Ice Cube, like it's Don Corleone, Yeah that was 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:15.960 the deal. 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.840 Yeah, which he should have. And it's like these are 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.919 all people gambling their money their debt. Like if that 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.200 movie doesn't work, that's Ice cubes career. That's not Mike, 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.640 that's not Chris Tucker's career, that's Ice Cubes career. 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.919 Chris back of the Deaf comedy Jam. 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.080 And it's funny because I listened to all that shit, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.359 not just be tripping, right, I've seen this ship with 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.680 Mark Curry. Mark Curley is dope, I mean as a pin, 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.080 like he get busy, but for him to be talking 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.240 shit because puff gave him back his publishing all. He 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.760 gave it to me when it wasn't worth nothing. It's yours. 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.040 So if it's not worthing nothing, it's only because you 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:56.119 not worth nothing. 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.040 That big ass record he own, it ain't worth nothing. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.480 What's nothing to these niggas. 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.679 Man, these niggas that be acting crazy, man, what's worth nothing? 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.879 I don't know if it's minds. I want it and 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:10.800 I ain't got nothing to say about nobody who gave 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:12.440 it back to me. If a nigga came and paid 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.640 me five dollars back. I'm not finna argue with him. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.479 That's only five dollars. I won't be like, man, thank you, 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.680 nigga can't give me my five dollars back. He'd have 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:22.080 made money. 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.120 So it don't worship you. Don't worship money like these 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.879 niggas do either. Glasses like you, You're dealing with a 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.400 different level of maturity and like you couldn't. 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:36.160 Run it because money, man, really money just they don't 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.800 do nothing. All they do is allow us to pay 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.440 the bills and to live the way we want to live. 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.679 And I'm not that desperate to live no way. I 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.720 know that sounds crazy, but I've never been desperate. I 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:53.680 just wanted the bare minimums in this life. I never 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.280 felt like I need an entirely too much of anything. 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.880 I never One of the biggest things is I don't 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.160 look like We was just talking about it the other 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.480 day with the Young Homie video and he was talking 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.480 and I'm like, he was talking about how great his 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.520 video was. I'm like, who are you competing with the 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.720 niggas that I would be competing with at life itself? 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:19.320 Like Martin Luther, King, Jesus, you know, Malcolm X. That's 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.040 that be the niggas, I would be competing with. 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:23.720 We We're going there. 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.000 So I'm so far away from being the type of 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.800 men that them three men were. You feel me like, 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:32.479 it's not even close. So I could never feel what 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:34.600 they feel because I wouldn't be competing to I'm not 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.440 competing with nobody from one hundred and seventeenth Street. I'm 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.359 not competing with nobody in hip hop. Every time I 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:46.200 even set my mind to that. In twenty eleven or twelve, 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.440 when we first started working on what would become that good, 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.880