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Oh, there are some really talented people 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: that also went there, we don't need to talk about them. 15 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: But the MVP offensively of the league last year, the 16 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP, and the fourth player ever to lead 17 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: the NFL in receiving, receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. The 18 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: most notable Eastern Washington University alum of all time Cooper Cup. So, Coop, 19 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: I know Washington State High school football pretty well. You 20 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: were a no star recruit and I was a no 21 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: star broadcasting recruit that went to Eastern. But I looked 22 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: back at Eastern and I was a small town kid 23 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: and I couldn't have handled a big school. I just 24 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: wasn't ready to go to a Texas you know whatever, 25 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, Ohio State eight. I think back on my 26 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Eastern days so fondly. I was in a dressler, one 27 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: of those circular yep yep. I was on a great 28 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: intermural football team. I remember every player on that team. 29 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: And I think for a lot of people, they look 30 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: at Eastern out in the middle of nowhere, but it's 31 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: got great spring, summer, fall weather. It's really good football. 32 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: And that's where I want to start with you, Like, 33 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: you didn't get recruited by anybody, even though you had 34 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: some lineage in your family. Did you go to Eastern 35 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: thinking I'm lucky, I'm going to prove people wrong. Do 36 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: you remember your first month on campus? Yeah? I do. 37 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: I definitely remember that first time I got up there 38 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: in June. I got there as soon as I possibly could, 39 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: want to be involved in the summer program and learning 40 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: the offense and doing all the different stuff, So I 41 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: got there real early afterwards, and I definitely I had. 42 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: I was very grateful for the opportunity. You go from 43 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: this place where you know, I walked off the football 44 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: field my senior year, the last game, we get absolutely 45 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: stomped by a team out there and Spokane not far 46 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: away from Eastern Washington, and get to get absolutely solved 47 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: by them. I walk off that field having just gotten 48 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: stomped and having no scholarship boffers. I don't my last 49 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: football game. I had put it all out there. I 50 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: didn't have anywhere. I didn't know if I was playing college. 51 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: So for me, it was a I was grateful for 52 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity to Eastern provided I was also stepping into 53 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: a place, but there were three All American receivers in 54 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: front of me, So I was also very excited about 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to learn from some guys that had done 56 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: some really good stuff as well. So, um, I got 57 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: up there. That was really my heart, moving up there 58 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: and moving into that place, moving into Cheny and being 59 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: a part of that stuff. There's nothing to do. There's 60 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: not a whole lot to do up there except me. 61 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: The only year you get to play football and be 62 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: a part of a really good program. Yeah, there was 63 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Zips the exactly there was zips. I wasn't old enough 64 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: to go to Like was it shownees or there was 65 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: some bar but I couldn't go to it until I 66 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: was until I was like a senior. Yeah, and I 67 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: felt really comfortable there because I came. My high school 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: football team had twenty nine players. I was a quarterback, 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: not very good, but um when so your dad your 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: dad was a quarterback in the NFL Cowboys, Cardinals. Your 71 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: your grandfather was an offensive lineman. So when I read 72 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: your story, my guess is you were a late bloomer, 73 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: that you were athletic, but you like popped put on 74 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty pounds. That was my guess. When was the 75 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: moment for you that, as a skinny high school player 76 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: that you kind of did think for yourself, Think for yourself, Yeah, 77 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm can I can make some waves in this sport 78 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: and even think maybe Canadian football. I mean seriously, like, 79 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: was there a moment do you remember thinking I wonder 80 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: if I could play professionally? Yeah? I do, and actually 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: that that moment, as crazy as it sounds, that moment 82 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: came when I was nine years old and I stepped 83 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: on the football field for the first time. Put the 84 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: pads on. I was at my brother's coach pitch baseball game. 85 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: There was a team practicing out in right field. I 86 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: went and checked it out and said, I want to 87 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: do this. Dad put the helmet shoulder pads on for 88 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: the first time and first time playing. I said, this 89 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna do. From that moment on, there 90 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: was never a doubt in my mind that I was 91 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: gonna play professional football. And I did. I wighed in 92 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 1: my freshman year. I was one hundred and fifteen pounds. 93 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: I was five foot four. I put on fifteen pounds 94 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: consecutive every offseason was put on fifteen pounds. It grew 95 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: a little bit here and there. It wasn't until really 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: my freshman sophomore year in college that I really started 97 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: to feel like I came into my body. But the 98 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: doubt in terms of my mindset, my mindset never changed. 99 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: I got laughed at all the time. I wore ankle 100 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: weights to school every day because that's just what I 101 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: felt like I needed to do to make the leaps 102 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: and bounds that need to happen. But if you asked 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: me my freshman year stepping on that scale, if you 104 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: had asked me what I was gonna do. I was 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: gonna go. I was gonna play running back at USC 106 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: and Fallow Reggie Bush, and I was gonna go play 107 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. That was just it was just in 108 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: my mind and my heart. It was set in them. 109 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: So I have friends in some NFL offices, and I 110 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: knew the Rams liked you, but I also knew the 111 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: Chargers loved you. And so from two GMS I know. 112 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: They asked me, They're like, you're an Eastern kid. Do 113 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: you know this kid? And I'm like, listen, they love him. 114 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: He's the hardest working guy on the team, totally focused. 115 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: So the Rams come up on the red field and 116 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: mcvay's up there, and so the day they're flying in, 117 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: are you nervous as all get out knowing you're gonna 118 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: have to perform for Sean McVeigh. Yeah, So you're talking 119 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: about like going through like pro day and like when 120 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: like they came off to the private workout, Yeah, so 121 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: I got I worked out with Tennessee Titans. Um, I 122 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: had private workout with the Titans, and I had a 123 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: private workout with the Rams. And when the Rams came out, 124 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: I was very excited about I don't know good nerves 125 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: A good A good nervous, but you don't know what. 126 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: You don't know what they're gonna throw at you. You You know, 127 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: when I was with the Titans, came out first, you know, 128 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: John Robinson playing BB on me and I was releasing 129 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: against the GM and doing stuff like that. So you 130 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: never know what they're gonna throw at you. But I 131 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: was excited about I knew that in my meeting with 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: them at the UM, you know, at the combine stuff. 133 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I knew that there was a you know, a cerebral 134 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: nature to the offense that Sean McVay was running with 135 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: the ramps that he was bringing in, and I was 136 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: excited about that. I was excited about me will step 137 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: in and do some of the things that they were 138 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: asking some of their guys to do. So when they 139 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: came out, I just wanted to be able to be 140 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: at my peak. I want to make sure that I 141 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: could perform for him. But I also knew actually had 142 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: to trust and who I was and what I was 143 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: as a player, and I knew that I was good 144 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: enough to play in this league. It was just about 145 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: getting opportunity. So you go from Eastern and then you 146 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: go to your first camp. And that's a big leap. 147 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the Carson Wentz has had to 148 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: make it from that level. Trey Lance, Now you make 149 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: that leap. So it's hard enough to make the leap 150 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: from Ohio State to the NFL. Well, do you remember 151 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: your first NFL practice? Yeah? No, I do. I Luckily 152 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: we were able to go through a little bit of 153 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: a mini camp first, the little rookie minicamp. But I 154 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: remember coming out here that first day and there is 155 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: an uptick in the speed and the intensity. Certainly there's 156 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: not room for There's not much room for air. And 157 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: quickly it was the realization of how important the details are, 158 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: the details and your technique, We're going to set you 159 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: free in this league. And I love that, though I 160 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: love the challenge that that presented, the opportunity presented for 161 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: me will dial into those things. Those are all things 162 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: that were under my control. Technique, being able to be 163 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: intentional with how I wanted to run my routes, being 164 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: able to understand the game, those are all things that 165 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: are completely under my control. And I knew I could 166 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: dive into those details and get to the point where 167 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm processing things quicker, and I'm taking advantage of those 168 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: of those aspects. I knew that my body was going 169 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: to follow along after that, So I love that challenge 170 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: that was presented from day one, just the importance of 171 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: all those things, and I'm being able to step into 172 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: that has been great. Can you name the six receivers 173 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: drafted before you? I name all, name the six of them. 174 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna mess up right near the end there, 175 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: but I know you know you had John Ross, You 176 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: had Corey Davis, Go, had Mike Williams, Go, had Zay 177 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: Jones went to Buffalo and say, I was a big 178 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: fan of Zay's coming out, had Juju. Maybe you had 179 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: Curnis Samuel Boom six for six. You're like Brady, he 180 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: can name every quarterback that got picked out of him 181 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: when in the route tree. One of the things I think, 182 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: and if I'm wrong, tell me, but one of the 183 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: things I noticed with you, and it reminds me a 184 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: little to Jerry Rice, is that people always talked about 185 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of legendary that Jerry wasn't a burner. But 186 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: what Jerry did and you do, you don't slow down 187 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: off your routes like you just go the same speed. 188 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because it seems like every but he 189 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: would do that, but it's not true. Did you copy emulate? 190 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: Is it natural that you don't slow down off a route? 191 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's harder than people think. Where does 192 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: that come from? Yeah? I really think it comes down 193 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: to this. I was very lucky my quarterback coach growing up. 194 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: The quarterback that has to this day throw me the 195 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: most passes that I've sent the most sign with is 196 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: my dad. And I had an NFL quarterback be my 197 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: receiver coach from the very beginning that that's who I 198 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: learned to run routes from. You're learning to run routes 199 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: from a quarterback's perspective. You have no other option except 200 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: make the quarterback look good, because if you don't make 201 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: a goal rund not its lucky that he's going to 202 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: tell you something about it. 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So then you go to Sean McVeigh. 246 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: And you know McVeigh is, he's just he's so intense, 247 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: like he's like a ball of energy, and he says 248 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: like he loves coaching Cooper Cup. Has Sean McVeigh ever 249 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: yelled at you? Oh yeah, I get yelled at all 250 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: the time. I get yelled at all the time. That's 251 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: a great thing too, though, you know, there's a he is. 252 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: He's very hard on the people around. He's also very 253 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: hard on the people that he has great expectations for. 254 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: And so um, certainly there's gonna be ways we see 255 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: the game in a very similar way. But there's also 256 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: things that we see differently. You know, we as a coach, 257 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: as a receiver, you know when I am, when he's 258 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: watching the game from a bird's eye view, from his angle, 259 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: from his perspective, he might see things differently than I do. 260 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: And this is a game, it's a game of of 261 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, playing in the gray. That so much of 262 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: what you have to do in this position, at what 263 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: we do is playing in the gray and making decisions, 264 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, real quick processing um and uh, you know 265 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: we have to be decisive and you don't have time 266 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: to sit there and think about it. You just have 267 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: to make make a decision and go. And so certainly 268 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: there's times that we see things differently and have to 269 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: have a you know, a spirited discussion of about, you know, 270 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: what the right way is to do it. But the 271 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: greatest thing here is Sean's humility and his ability to 272 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: understand that collaboration is at the end of the day, 273 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: if we can collaborate together and hear the voices that 274 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: need to be heard and come to a solution, we're 275 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: going to be at the right place. It's not about 276 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: one person making decisions saying we're going this way. So 277 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: figuring out together what's best for us and then being 278 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: able to be as efficient and effective as possible was 279 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: an offense. Listen, you were good friends with Jared Goff. 280 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: But it's a business. It happens. Mel Kiper once told 281 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: me that Matt Stafford was owned one of the only 282 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks he'd ever seen that could have gone high school 283 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: to the pros. You could have put him on a roster, 284 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: had him back up, grow up, mature. What was the 285 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: first pass Stafford through to you in practice that you 286 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: were like, whoa, I mean, it's Matt Scott, Like he 287 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: could be a starting pitcher in Major League Baseball, Like 288 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: it's rare, it's top four or five in the league. 289 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: Could you hear it? They hear the spin? Was there 290 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: a moment you were like, this dude's got an arm. Yeah, 291 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: you know what's funny, he's bringing us up. I adn't 292 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: thought about this, but probably the play that happened during 293 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: Ota is probably a year ago to the day almost 294 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: that it was like the light went on, like, oh, 295 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: that is what makes this guy great? Is it the 296 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: exact same play that we ran that he know looked 297 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl? Was honestly the first that that 298 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: was the first time where I went back I felt 299 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: what he had done. I think he might have just 300 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: know look that one, and I went back and watched 301 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: on film and seeing him manipulate people underneath and do 302 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: what he did with his eyes and being able to 303 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: throw the ball that he did. It was literally on 304 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: the exact same play that he knows look the super Bowl, 305 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: you know when he had that great one on that 306 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: last drive. It was literally the exact same play. But yeah, 307 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: that was the moment where it's like this guy has 308 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: something that is different. It's not he's not a quarterback. 309 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: That's reactive. You know, that's saying take with the defense 310 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: gives you a lot of the times that's true. He 311 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: also understands how to say, no, I'm going to dictate 312 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: where this ball is going and move the people and 313 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: make sure that I can make the throw that I 314 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: want to make. That's gonna be the big play, that 315 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: throw against Tampa when I mean Cooper, like literally the 316 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: boat's losing water, Like I'm sitting there watching going guys, 317 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: come on, get it together. It's like one of those 318 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: NBA runs. Somebody hit a basket. I know. So you 319 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: on that play, was that take me? Was that going 320 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: to be I'm throwing it to you period? Or was 321 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: he watching the break? Because that was really that really 322 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: was the play of the season for you at that point. Yeah, 323 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: So that play wasn't even called for me. That play 324 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: was called for Van Jefferson running a little dagger out. 325 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: I was going to try to occupy the deep safety, 326 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: try to pull out some guys running down the middle 327 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: of the field, and Van Jefferson's running a little widen 328 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: dagger in cut at like twenty yards. I was coming 329 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: in there and the ball is going to be coming 330 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: to him and We're gonna try to get up there 331 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: spiked ball and get one more play and they end 332 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: up sliding into that zero late, don't quite hit it 333 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: how they want to. I feel a safety slide over 334 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: and I just hit it and hope that Matthew was 335 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: gonnabill to get that thing up. And uh, I mean 336 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: what Matthew did. What let's not appreciate on that play. 337 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: Matthew be able to c zero buy enough time and 338 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: he put the ball up when I was about twelve 339 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: thirteen yards down the field, but it wasn't caught until 340 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: about forty or forty plus yards down the field. You know, 341 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: for him to put the air on it that he 342 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: needed to to allow me to catch that in stride 343 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: as long as I was running down the field. It 344 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: was an incredible throw in his bar. You know, a 345 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: lot of receivers are big personalities, and I've always theorized 346 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: that you're the first to break the huddle. It's sort 347 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: of the only position in football that is a little 348 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: individual And and I think to myself, Cooper Cup, you 349 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: have like a linebacker personality. Is was there something that 350 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: did attract you to the end of visual nature? Was 351 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: it maybe your dad was a quarterback and you're making 352 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: all the catches because you said you wanted to be 353 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: a running back at one point. Yeah, well I did. 354 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: I grew up playing running back my body. Obviously, I 355 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: still had to drinking I got in high school. I 356 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: still dreamed of playing running back, but the body just 357 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: developed differently. Obviously I kind of was limited in my 358 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: options there. But I've always just thought, I've always appreciated 359 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: about football that it is a team sport. Is the 360 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: greatest team sport in the entire world. And receiver, You're right, 361 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: receiver is probably one of the more individual positions, but 362 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: it relies secretly. It relies on ten other guys to 363 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: do their job to perfection. All five linemen have to 364 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: pick up this half to pick up the blitz, have 365 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: to pick up the rush. Quarterbacks gotta be great with 366 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: his progression. Running back has to know if he's got 367 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: any kind of pressure coming, he's got be able to 368 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: get back into his you know, progress into his route 369 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: to build pull coverage. The other receivers are on the field. 370 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Half that's distribute the field the right way. All this 371 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: to happened before I get you an opportunity to make 372 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: a play. So m You know, I've got a great 373 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: appreciation for me to be able to do what I do. 374 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: There's two other guys to have to do their job 375 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: at a very high level, and that's what makes this 376 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: game so good. And so that's why I've got so 377 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: much appreciation. When I'm asked to block, and I'm asked 378 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: to pass block, and I'm asked to run block, I'm 379 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: just another cog in that machine for someone else. And 380 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: so I've just got so much appreciation for what it 381 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: takes to be effective as an offense and be able 382 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: to make this thing go so we can put points 383 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: up on the board and win games. Well, you are 384 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 1: a blocking receiver as well, but there is a difference 385 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: between blocking somebody from you know, Fresno State and the 386 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: NFC West. Have you ever had a blocking assignment and thought, 387 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: all right, this is not going great. Who's the strongest 388 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: guy you've ever put your hands on. Well, I've had 389 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: to you know, yeah, I've had to block to Davion 390 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: Clowney off the edge. I've had to block Khalil mack 391 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: Um actually two years ago when he was with Chicago 392 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: cleilmack I had to block him on the backside a 393 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: couple of times. And there's one play where he grabbed me. 394 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: I kind of it was kind of a cut off block. 395 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't like straight up with him, but I kind 396 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: of had a cough. I cut him off pretty good 397 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: and he got me and he was he was this 398 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: close to choke slamming me, and I was able to 399 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: last second. I felt it he was about to come. 400 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: I just yelled Khalil, and he luckily pulled off because 401 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: he was he was laughing afterwards, but he had a 402 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: chance to really do some damage to me. But there's 403 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: been some guys, there's been some guys that I've had 404 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: to block, um that are great in this league. But UM, 405 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: I've also learned some good stuff from our our tackles 406 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: and um, the guys that caught me a few bald 407 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: techniques to be you know, we's on my end, meat, 408 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: We's on my way into you know, losing with dignity 409 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: in some situations. You know, it's interesting when OBJ came 410 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: to the Rams, he was really effective in that Super Bowl. 411 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: He was also really effective immediately. Do you ever, whether 412 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: it's Robert Woods or Obj, do you ever watch other 413 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: guys on film coop and you're just like, you know, 414 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna borrow that like a footwork an angle? Like 415 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: do you still like like OBJ? If I said to you, 416 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: what do you see when you watch Obj as a receiver. 417 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: His patience at the top of the routes, his ability 418 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: to no matter what happens if he loses his release, 419 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: his ability to be patient enough and trust at the 420 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: depth of his route and the timing and what he's 421 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: going to come open within the progression of wherever the 422 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: play is. His ability to understand that and understand that 423 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: the patients to the top of the route is going 424 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: to allow him to win. Still, m it's not the 425 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: biggest thing about Odell. He plays with such confidence and 426 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: such patients. Um, that's a great thing. That's that's the position. 427 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it is an art form because it's not 428 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: about just how fast you can run. It's getting open 429 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: at the right time as well being in the right 430 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: place at the right time. And you know, his ability 431 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: to get to the top of the routes and you 432 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: know understanding how to use his eyes some NPLA guys 433 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: on face freezing guys, he did an incredible job at that. 434 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: So and certainly I want to grab things from guys 435 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: as much as I possibly can. This is I've said 436 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 1: receiver as an art form. I want to grab as 437 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: much as I can from other people. It's not all 438 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: gonna work. I can't do the things that Calvin Johnson did. 439 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's some Andrew Hawkins Assassin stuff that he 440 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: does that I couldn't do. But grabbing little pieces from 441 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: each guy and being able to say, what, how much? 442 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: How many tools can I add to my utility boat? 443 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: How many things kind of have up, you know, week 444 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: in a week out to bell allow me to win. 445 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm all about that. You have great religious conviction. You're 446 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: a small town kid. Los Angeles is a big city 447 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: with a kardashion on every block, and you kind of hide, 448 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: you kind of do your own thing. And you know 449 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: I would I would never say Cooper cup Los Angeles, 450 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: that's where it's going to live the rest of his life. 451 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: But yet I saw you in a tie dye shirt 452 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: somewhere on Instagram, and I'm like, you're living your best life, 453 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: like Yakama kid, Eastern Washington kid. I tell friends all 454 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: the time, I'm like, listen, I've been in small towns. 455 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: I've been in wet weather, the sun in the city. 456 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: It's fun. It's like a new chapter in my life. 457 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: Has La been easy for you? Has it been culture 458 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: shock for you? How do you and your wife fit in? Yeah, well, 459 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's a thermometer, a thermostatic situation. Um, you know, 460 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: I am gonna be who I am. We are about 461 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: the things that we're about as a family. Um, we're 462 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: gonna be about what we're about. And um, you know, 463 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: I think tomorrow where you go. Um, We're gonna do 464 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: the things that we like to do and uh, you know, 465 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: appreciate the things that we appreciate, the things that we 466 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: get to do here in this place, and the opportunities 467 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: that LA provides. Certainly, I mean we love it here. 468 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: We love them. We're we're foodies. We love the food scene. 469 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: We love being able to go out and do things, 470 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I usually around ten o'clock we 471 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: start yawning and feel like we got to get into 472 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: bed or past our bedtime. That's that that's been a 473 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: little different, But UM, yeah, I mean we're we're normal people. 474 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: And that's the great thing. I don't mean to quote 475 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: the office. I feel like I quote the office all 476 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: the time. But there's beauty and ordinary things. I think 477 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of the point. Yeah, Now I know Yakama, 478 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: I know Ellensburg, I know Lake Schlan. I've been to 479 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: all these places. You know what Natchee means something to me. 480 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: I went to boys State at Central Washington. I went 481 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: to Eastern Washington. So I kind of know your league. 482 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: Was Eisenhower in your league? Yep? Does you look at that. 483 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: That's a great job, great job Acrosstown Arrival. We wan't 484 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: to talk about Eisenhower, but yeah, you know, yeah, they're 485 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: in the league. The fact I know that is embarrassing, Cooper. 486 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Nobody will ever know Eisenhower High School. So the summers, 487 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: so your dad's played in the NFL summers Yakama is hot? 488 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: Did your dad put you on a farm? Did he 489 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: put you on a tractor? Like? What did you do 490 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: in the summer? No? You know, I was so lucky, 491 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: and I've told my parents this over and over how 492 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: thankful I was that they allowed me to not have 493 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: to work in the summer. They let me go work out. 494 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: I got to work out and do whatever I really 495 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: wanted to do. UM and didn't make me spend nine 496 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: hours working somewhere. UM and not everyone gets that opportunity. 497 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: I that's not missed on me. I got had the 498 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: opportunity to spend the summer getting better at things that 499 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I played in basketball tournaments, I played, 500 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: um you know, I organized seven on seven things and 501 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: just being a part of playing the game. The things 502 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: that I want to work on as a as a 503 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: football player, as an athlete, as a kid. I got 504 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: to do those things, and I was so appreciated my 505 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: parents are being able to like for allowing me to 506 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: be able to do that stuff when I know certainly 507 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: I could have. They could have asked me, you know, hey, 508 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: we're like, there's some things you have to do after work. 509 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I did have to one summer. I had to reroof 510 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: our you know, our house well, so there's little things 511 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: that came up that we had to do. But um, 512 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: I was very thankful and very grateful for my parents 513 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: and allowing me to do that. So you talk. You're 514 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: known for talking in technical terms, and I think it's 515 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: great because most people give cliches, and you'll talk in 516 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: technical terms. So, um, just for fun, um, and we 517 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: don't know what play it is. I imagine. McVay also 518 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: loves technical terms like he just loves the game. Give me, 519 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: give me a rams play, just the name of it, 520 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: and let me try to figure out kind of what 521 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: it is. Um okay, uh, let's go um. Let's go 522 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: to why mote? Why mote? A bunch right? Tight? Um? 523 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: Why a bunch right tight? Lamar husker, Lamar slacker, bunch 524 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: right tight, Lamar slacker? Okay, time out? Bunch right Lamar 525 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: may mean Lamar Jackson slacker. That that okay, I'll tell 526 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: you what it is. It's a jet sweep for you 527 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: from right to left. No, it's not. That's not it. 528 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: I can't tell you what it is. But that's not it. 529 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: I can't even really tell you that you're close either. 530 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: So it's a nice it was a fun exercise, but 531 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's a good thing. It means that we're 532 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: doing a good job with in terms of how we're 533 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: naming things. It shouldn't It shouldn't be too clear for you. Now, 534 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: who names them? Who gives them the names? Um? Sean does? Sean? 535 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: The coaching staff usually does. If new things come up, 536 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: we get to collaborate a little bit. If you think 537 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: there's a name for something that kind of hits our 538 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: brain the right way. Um, he kind of allows a 539 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: little bit of freedom there. But typically most of the 540 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: stuff is coaches usually have the best ideas. They're here 541 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: the longest, they drink the most coffee, they get the 542 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: best they get to have the best ideas when they 543 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: when you're over the course of a season, it's a 544 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: long season, you've got to get along. I mean, at 545 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: some point you've got to have some levity in a 546 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: season because it's really intense. And Um, is Stafford the 547 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: kind of guy like you know, Tom Brady's told stories 548 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: where he and Grouncle joked during a game, or Joe 549 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: Montana joked in a Super Bowl with John Taylor, he 550 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: pointed out like a comedian John Candy in the stands. 551 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: What is Stafford's personality in games? Yeah, he's I mean, 552 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: I think he's got a pretty calm demeanor. Uh most 553 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: of the time. Um, he's competitive as can be. Um, 554 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think he really feels himself. He starts, 555 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, if he tucks the ball and runs a 556 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: little bit, like you know, he's like, don't get up 557 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: there and tie talking to him. He's he's kind of 558 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: like feeling himself. You gotta kind of let him living 559 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: that moment a little bit. Um. He uh, he's he 560 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: he'll call you out. And I mean it's if you 561 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: if if you're messing up like he's, he's on you 562 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: about you know what's going on, and he's not afraid 563 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: to ask you, like to tell you that he needs 564 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: you somewhere and needs something out of you. Um and uh, 565 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: but that's great, it's great. It's what you want from 566 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: a leader. You want someone's gonna talk straight, shoot straight 567 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: with you. Um, that's competitive me that wants to win. 568 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: There's no doubt in anyone's mind that you know that 569 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford wants to win the game as badly as 570 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: anyone else on that field. So you know, he's got 571 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: a great demeanor about him. I get yelled at all 572 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: the time by him. You know, there's a couple of 573 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: times you can go back two games or he's he 574 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: I took too long on a route and he's over 575 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: there and his tapping his wrist thing. We got some 576 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: things done. I'm like, I got you. I know, I know. 577 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: This week's gold medal performance goes to a team whose 578 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: dynasty isn't dead just yet. The Warriors on the brink 579 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: of yet another trip to the finals. Golden State's old 580 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: or a little more brittle, but they're still doing things 581 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: the same way. They're not brand obsessed, no egos, willing 582 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: to share and adapt. 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You back away from your computer screen a 599 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: little bit but when we're on it, when we're you know, 600 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: when we're playing on that day after day, we loved it. 601 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: It's song you take pride in and it's just home. 602 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: It's just what you are used to. So um, you 603 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: know we're already Eastern. We absolutely loved it. Yeah. You 604 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: know what I remember about Eastern two the phase because 605 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: I spent I used to take my classes early in 606 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: the morning. I do a nine, ten eleven. There'd be 607 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: nobody in the phase, so I go work out from 608 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: like noon to two before you guys got in at football. 609 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: I always tell people this. When the Seahawks used to 610 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: host camp there, I was in the best shape of 611 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: my life in college. Man. It was people don't understand 612 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: this open air facility that like people, there's a reason 613 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: the Seahawks picked it. Like, people just don't understand. Eastern's 614 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: got great workout facilities. Yeah, we got some good stuff. 615 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: There's some stuff again pretty one. Do you know? The 616 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: phase is called the phase because there's actually just the 617 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: first phase of five that they were going to do. 618 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: It's a phase because there was actually five buildings they 619 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: were going to do, but they just run out of money, 620 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: so it's just phase one. Just became the phase. By 621 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: the way, Eastern running out of money. We never had 622 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: any money that, you're right. They yeah, they somehow. Yeah, 623 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: they were ambitious. We're big dreamers, that Eastern big dreamers. 624 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: We've always got big plans. The money's not always there, 625 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: but they're working on it. 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