WEBVTT - Featuring Madison Beer

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<v Speaker 1>M Hi, guys, and welcome back to this week's episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Let's Be Real Podcast. I'm your host, Sammy Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>and this week I got to chat with the incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>talented Madison Beer. Now you may know her from her

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<v Speaker 1>music from social media, but I genuinely love this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>so much because we talk a lot about how social

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<v Speaker 1>media has negatively affected her even though her career started

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. We talk about anxiety, touring music, girl

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<v Speaker 1>supporting girls, and so much more. I hope you guys enjoy. Yeah, Addison,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited that you are on my podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday. First of all, Happy Friday. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what day of the week it is or what

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<v Speaker 1>planet I'm on anymore, So Happy Friday, I guess, no

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<v Speaker 1>clue I know, But I mean, you're going on tour

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<v Speaker 1>so soon, leaving tomorrow. How do we feel about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Very excited, nervous. I'm like the most happy excited I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in so long, and I'm just like, I really

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait. It's been a very very long time since

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<v Speaker 1>I've toured or like done a concert, um, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>just been in rehearsals for the past month. So I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe it's here, and I'm really really excited. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you looking forward to most? Um? I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I've done. You know, I did a concert live

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<v Speaker 1>stream when my album came out. Um, I did. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done like a few things here and there, but I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't performed any of this album or these songs for

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<v Speaker 1>my fans. So I think just like finally singing them

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<v Speaker 1>with them is going to be really magical and awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, I think that's probably what I'm the most

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<v Speaker 1>excited for, is to just like hear them sing these

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<v Speaker 1>songs back to me. It's really cool, going to be

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. Like you said, you did the live stream performance,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's nothing like a live audience and getting that

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<v Speaker 1>like immediate feedback. What is that feeling like when you're

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<v Speaker 1>just on stage people know the words what you've written

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<v Speaker 1>relating to your experiences. Yeah, I mean it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really special thing. It's something that like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know think, especially that I haven't done it

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<v Speaker 1>in so long. I really don't take it for granted,

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<v Speaker 1>not that I did before, but you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I'm able to actually get back out

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<v Speaker 1>there with them and do this, you know, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really surreal because we've we've been through in a global

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic for the past year and a half and now

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<v Speaker 1>we're finally returning to a sense of normalcy and getting

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<v Speaker 1>to actually see humans in person again. It's like Theies

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<v Speaker 1>all over again. Yeah, it's really wild, I think. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's also just like a lot of this music

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<v Speaker 1>came out during Quarantine, during the heype of it all,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that like just having that connection that

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<v Speaker 1>we've had online in real life for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be really special. Because I just I

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<v Speaker 1>did a radio show two months ago now, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was only like a hundred people in the crowd, not

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<v Speaker 1>all of which were my fans, like some of them

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<v Speaker 1>were there for other people or whatever. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>immediately crying when people started singing my song back to me,

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<v Speaker 1>even it was just like fifty people. So I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how it's going to feel when it's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>venue of people there for me. You gotta docu meant that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a diary or like a journal to

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<v Speaker 1>write Steven? Yeah, yeah, And I'm gonna have a I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do like video tour diaries. I think, um, like

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<v Speaker 1>every once a week hopefully we'll get them out. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna document as much as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be really special and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure all of it is documented in there.

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<v Speaker 1>This album, you know, it got postponed first because of COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it got postponed again. But it's been out

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. What has it been like creating art

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<v Speaker 1>during such a surreal time period in all of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Has it made it more difficult or has it helped

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<v Speaker 1>your creative process? Would you say? Um? I think that

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<v Speaker 1>at first it was kind of this obviously like bummer

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<v Speaker 1>of a thing, and I was just like, damn my,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, album has to be postponed and tour and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was kind of just this like heavy thing

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<v Speaker 1>at first. But I tried to, as I do with

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<v Speaker 1>most things, like find the positive through line I can,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was, you know, getting to spend time my

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<v Speaker 1>fans that I wouldn't have otherwise, which was like going

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<v Speaker 1>on live streams and talking to them and just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having a more like honest dialogue between us. I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to just like talk to them and it was

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<v Speaker 1>really special and I'm really happy that I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. But to answer your question, I yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that it didn't really hinder or

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<v Speaker 1>like motivate me creatively. It was kind of just like

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<v Speaker 1>weird that I couldn't do in person music sessions or

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<v Speaker 1>writing sessions. But it also you know, gave me the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to like want to write on my own and

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<v Speaker 1>like not need a whole crew of people with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it definitely made me a better writer in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways. And um, yeah, it taught me so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I I but I wouldn't say it like hinder the

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<v Speaker 1>process too too much. What would you say the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>lesson you've learned about yourself through quarantine and just past

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half, Um, I mean I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about myself. I um did a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like self reflection and just like you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get to a place where I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have you know, a month whatever it is. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, I didn't know how long it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be. But remember when it was two weeks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>literally and people, O, my god, we're gonna be obst

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<v Speaker 1>for two weeks and I know another break. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and I think that like I haven't really had

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<v Speaker 1>time the last ten years that I started this to

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<v Speaker 1>like slow down and you know, just decompress and be

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<v Speaker 1>like who are you? What? What? Like? What are you what? Who?

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<v Speaker 1>What makes you tick? Like just really doing like a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive by myself, I think was really important to

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<v Speaker 1>me and it ended up being really like worthwhile and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy that I was able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, it was definitely still like a lot um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm someone who relies on other people or

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<v Speaker 1>I used to at least for a lot of my happiness,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you know that was at first really difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to stay happy, um and not slip back into like

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<v Speaker 1>a severe depression. So I think also just learning how

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<v Speaker 1>to like self soothe and be on my own and

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<v Speaker 1>not rely on others was huge for me. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm grateful for for what it did provide

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<v Speaker 1>and give to me, And like you said, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Also, I have a struggle of anxiety my

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. In a very isolating situation. It can be

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<v Speaker 1>kind it could get bad fast if you're also have

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety or depression everything. Yeah, and distraction can just be

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<v Speaker 1>your best friend. Was there a certain show that you

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<v Speaker 1>watched during quarantine that just helped get you through? It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like such a fever dream that I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>even remember anything I did. I know I watched like

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger King and like whatever, all those viral things everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>we're watching. But I honestly, like I swear, I spent

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<v Speaker 1>nine of my time like on live streams talking to

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<v Speaker 1>my fans. Like that's what really I guess distracted and

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<v Speaker 1>took up a lot of my time. Was I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how can I get to, you know, know them better

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<v Speaker 1>than I already do, and like how can I create

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<v Speaker 1>this genuine friendship with my fans? Like I've never had

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<v Speaker 1>this much time to just sit and talk to them

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<v Speaker 1>and like have fun and just chat um ever and

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<v Speaker 1>so it was. It was really fun. We had We

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<v Speaker 1>made the best of it what we could, so we

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<v Speaker 1>had a good time. Yeah, you're You're so right. This

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<v Speaker 1>entire year and a half has felt like a fever dream.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you you just put it perfectly. Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was seventeen going the pandemic and now I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>and I was a junior. Now I'm a freshman in college.

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<v Speaker 1>What yeah, I was. I literally had just celebrated my

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty first birthday. My birthday's March fits. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like the last thing to happen prior to like lockdown,

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<v Speaker 1>like a week before lockdown. Literally, so I had like

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<v Speaker 1>this party and then it was locked down, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I went to New York and so I yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>literally entered quarantine twenty one and now I'm like almost

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. Really weird. What is the past year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I don't I don't know. It's really wild.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's it's hard to realize that we're also

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<v Speaker 1>like living through such an historical time. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we read about this in school that happened, and we're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>like nothing like that's ever happened to us or in

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<v Speaker 1>our time, but this will be the time and in

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<v Speaker 1>life that gets taught in schools one day and people

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<v Speaker 1>will be like, wow, those people live through a pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how crazy? What was that? Like? My answer, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I still don't know. No, I'll be talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my grandkids. I'll be like, yeah, no, clue No

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<v Speaker 1>mentally blocked it out a long time ago deleted. Something

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been forgetting is to like give ourselves like

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<v Speaker 1>more grace that we are going through still such a

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up time period, just in general, um, that we

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<v Speaker 1>all need to just be nicer to ourselves, which is

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<v Speaker 1>it can be hard to do because we've gotten so

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<v Speaker 1>normal to this being the new normal. I've tried telling

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<v Speaker 1>that to some of my friends who are in college

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, my my brother, for example, graduated his

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<v Speaker 1>senior year on Zoom whatever same. But people people like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I try to explain to them, like, it's okay if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel sad about this and you mourn something huge

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<v Speaker 1>that you had worked you know, all of high school

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<v Speaker 1>up to and whatever, like, it's totally I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's where a lot of people got it a bit

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<v Speaker 1>wrong to me was when people were like, oh, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we should all be like try to make

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<v Speaker 1>the best out of this. I'm like, yes, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>always I think you should try to make the best

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<v Speaker 1>out of situations. But without being said, I think validating

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<v Speaker 1>your emotions and experienced with this happening and feeling feeling

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<v Speaker 1>robbed of certain things is valid and I and I

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<v Speaker 1>would hate to see I think it just drives you

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<v Speaker 1>into more of like a negative space when you're like

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<v Speaker 1>invalidating your own experiences. And I think that it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to like, like I had to validate that to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to be like, it's okay that you're upset

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<v Speaker 1>that your tour got canceled. That's a really valid thing

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<v Speaker 1>to be upset about. And um, you know, my little

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<v Speaker 1>brother came to me and he was like, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>almost guilty for feeling sad that my senior year got canceled,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there're obviously are people who are dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with much worse things like family members passing away and

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<v Speaker 1>like people in the hospitals and things like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I think that's great that he acknowledged that

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on. But I think it's important to still

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<v Speaker 1>be able to like be like, well, I'm still having

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time, and um, I just yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was sweet that he like obviously was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about other people. I think that that's like such

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<v Speaker 1>a great quality. But also you have to you have

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<v Speaker 1>to validate your own experiences and you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be like I'm going through something weird and hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and still to this day, you know, people are and

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<v Speaker 1>we are and um you know zoom and all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is still really really new to us. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it's really important for your mental health to

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<v Speaker 1>take a second and be like, this has been a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking weird, hard year and a half. Now, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to feel weird about it, and it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>like more in your you know, the last two years

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<v Speaker 1>of your life. It's okay. I feel that because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've done that too, where I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure many other people listening can relate like people

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<v Speaker 1>are going through so much worse. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make what we're going through less valid, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is an important reminder. And I think also

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<v Speaker 1>with the pandemic, the way we've kept in touch is

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<v Speaker 1>through social media. I've struggled just balancing a healthy relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with social media my entire life. I'm sure you get

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<v Speaker 1>this what you also have to think of it as

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<v Speaker 1>a business. But the same time, like I'm nineteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a nineteen year old girl in social media can

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<v Speaker 1>just get so toxic so fast. Have you found a

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<v Speaker 1>way to manage that balance or is that still something

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<v Speaker 1>you're working on. Um. I think it's like a forever

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<v Speaker 1>like ever evolving process for me. It changes also, like

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<v Speaker 1>with my mental state. It like sometimes I can, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>allow myself to scroll on TikTok for five hours and

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<v Speaker 1>just be like whatever, I'm fine, And then other days

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<v Speaker 1>it will send me into a panic attack and I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want to even a lot. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on my mood, it depends on what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in my life. But I'm really good. I've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I see a therapist twice a week who's amazing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I work really diligently about like knowing when I should

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<v Speaker 1>indulge in that and when I shouldn't, and like when

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth it and when it's not. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm good about trying to be self aware. Also

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry if my voice is so raspy. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>singing like every single day in rehearsals and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I sound like, No, you sound great, you sound great. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like if I'm feeling like shit and if

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a long day and if I feel stressed

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<v Speaker 1>and insecure and like I don't want to read what

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<v Speaker 1>a million people have to say about me. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just create that barrier in that boundary. And I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to sit on social media tonight because

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<v Speaker 1>I know that if I see something or if I

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<v Speaker 1>read something, I'm gonna fucking feel like shit. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important to just listen to your mind and

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<v Speaker 1>your heart and your body. And if you're heart in

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<v Speaker 1>mind is telling you like, hey, maybe tonight it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the best night to do this, then you just should

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<v Speaker 1>like listen. Do you know what's really helped? I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the Social Dilemma? Did you ever see that? Terrifying? Oh? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's terrifying. And so after watching that doc, I turned

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<v Speaker 1>off notifications for all social media except Gmail because I

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<v Speaker 1>have to use that, and I they've stayed off ever

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<v Speaker 1>since I've watched it. And it's actually great because I

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<v Speaker 1>only go on when I want to go on and

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<v Speaker 1>not want to get an alert that someone wants to

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<v Speaker 1>contact me, right right, Yeah, I have. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>I can show you I literally have. My social media

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<v Speaker 1>is all or like dark. You know, they all have

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<v Speaker 1>time on them, so like you open Instagram and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just I have to I have to bypass that. If

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<v Speaker 1>I want to use Instagram today, I need to click

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<v Speaker 1>ignore limit, which then gives you like, okay, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to ignore it for a minute or fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or ignore it for the whole day. And I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>ever click ignore it for the whole day. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's nice that I have to kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>have these checkpoints of not just because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think like as young people, it's like we just

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<v Speaker 1>naturally go to Twitter and we'll just scroll on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is, and I think that it's like

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<v Speaker 1>important for people to like have this checkpoint that's like okay, TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to bypass this? Yes or no? And

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<v Speaker 1>you have to actually like log in your head these

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<v Speaker 1>these time limits. Like I I feel like I used

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<v Speaker 1>to also look at my screen time and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like hours and hours and hours that I spent on

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<v Speaker 1>social media and I'd be like, what, yeah, that's so

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<v Speaker 1>much of my life and my time, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like this is terrible, like horrible. So at least when

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<v Speaker 1>you have themers, you're like logging it, you know, you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that was only fifteen minutes that was minutes. I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 1>gonna explore the time limit thing. I uh my software

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<v Speaker 1>of high school, my anxiety was like the worst it

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<v Speaker 1>ever got um and social media just got so toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>And on a winter break, I shot off my phone

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<v Speaker 1>completely for two weeks and I was like, if my

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<v Speaker 1>friends want to contact me, they can call my home phone.

0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.280
<v Speaker 1>And I was spending like thirteen hours on my phone

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<v Speaker 1>a day, and I had so much extra time. I

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<v Speaker 1>taught myself the ukulele because I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do with this extra time in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you, that's I think that's amazing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it's really like dope that you had that

0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like inner dialogue to tell you, hey, like let's let's chill,

0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Like it's too much. A lot of people don't have that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's that's really that's awesome. Okay, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to take a quick break, but when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk more about your experience with social media and

0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the impact it's had on your min health. I also

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about your passion about being a mental

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<v Speaker 1>health advocate, your new music, and so much more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can feel myself starting to go down the not

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<v Speaker 1>so great feeling of social media. Again, for everyone listening,

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<v Speaker 1>please remember at the highlight reel, it is not anyone's

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<v Speaker 1>life at all. I think it's a yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's crazy we even have to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think that it's like you should just know

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<v Speaker 1>of course people are only putting out what they want

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<v Speaker 1>you to see and like they're only their best and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's it's it's not reality. I try to

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<v Speaker 1>I try to remind my fans and like just people

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<v Speaker 1>who follow me that as much as I can. Where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you guys do know I don't look like

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time, right, you guys are fully aware that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I spent two hours in here and makeup before

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<v Speaker 1>I took this selfie and like whatever it might be, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's so important, Like people need to just

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<v Speaker 1>understand that, especially even I've found it's not not even

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<v Speaker 1>really the like people who post selfies really look super

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<v Speaker 1>fire all the time and stuff like that. That gets

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<v Speaker 1>to me. It's more like I found myself for a

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<v Speaker 1>really long time looking at people's relationships and people's lives,

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<v Speaker 1>being like, well they seem like they're so happy all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and they're traveling and this person they're dating,

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<v Speaker 1>they seem so happy with them, and da da da

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<v Speaker 1>da da. And I was always comparing like my relationships

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<v Speaker 1>to that. But in reality, like a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>couples you see posting online that are like the happiest

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<v Speaker 1>couples ever, like fighting NonStop and like have issues and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not posting like, hey, me and my boyfriend has

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<v Speaker 1>gone to a fight like this. It's just not reality.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's it's super important to just take

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<v Speaker 1>everything with a grain of salt and really trying not

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<v Speaker 1>to compare your life or relationships to you know, any

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<v Speaker 1>of that. It's just it's just not worth it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really not ingradius on the pot and he kicked up

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<v Speaker 1>and he said something to me that, like I've just

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking ever since you was You're right where you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. You're not behind anybody, you're not ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on your own journey and that is where and

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<v Speaker 1>that's true for all of us for sure. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like I hate anything comparison, Like I'm just like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>do not compare yourself to each other, like only one

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<v Speaker 1>of you. You're on your own path. Yeah, there's only

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<v Speaker 1>one of you, and like you were here on this planet,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe to fulfill like your own ship, not anyone else's.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't compare your life to anyone else's. Um. I think

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<v Speaker 1>also like it's hard being our age now because like

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<v Speaker 1>you see kids our age like who are millionaires and

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<v Speaker 1>who are super successful and who are just like running companies,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, what the fuck, Like it's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to not compare, Like I have friends who are um

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<v Speaker 1>my age and who will be like, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a failure because I'm not like a multimillionaire because

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, that's like all you see and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yo, that's so not reality, and like you

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<v Speaker 1>need to stop being so hard on yourself. But I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>like you might think that this is like what goes on,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's not, and it's it's sad. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who do really great discredit themselves

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<v Speaker 1>because they compare themselves to people online. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>also we're living in such a weird world where people

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<v Speaker 1>on social media are making millions of dollars and their

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen and we have to like that's just because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not that does not mean you are any less than Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a wild, wild time. It's really really crazy, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really bad on the psyche, Like let's not forget

0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's it's really intense for a kid. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I was twelve on social media and it had

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<v Speaker 1>its effects on me in a major way. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to now be in like extensive therapy and I've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through a lot of ship mentally that like I

0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.680
<v Speaker 1>do credit being on social media is super young. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that had a really really negative impact on

0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the way I viewed myself mental health. Um, having like

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<v Speaker 1>people just like talk about you in a negative way

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<v Speaker 1>all the time is not It's not something like you're

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<v Speaker 1>meant to process. So especially when you're growing up and

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<v Speaker 1>people are critiquing you for when they don't know you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea who I am, let alone, Like

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<v Speaker 1>do these people know who I am? So it's it

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<v Speaker 1>was really difficult. And I think there's a lot of kids,

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<v Speaker 1>like literally kids on social media now that I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really worried for and I just I just hope that they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look out for themselves the best they can.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a really scary place the anteinet sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a mental therapy. I haven't in therapy since I was

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<v Speaker 1>like eight, and there's such a stigma with it, but

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<v Speaker 1>there shouldn't be because I always say, people say, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta work out, you gotta work out your mind, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what therapy is. Yeah, it's so important. And also

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<v Speaker 1>just to be able to like talk to someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>unbiased and just like get your emotions out. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever think it's good to let things build up and

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<v Speaker 1>like let that pressure, you know, like becomes so Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's and you don't need to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad place to go to therapy. It's always good to

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<v Speaker 1>go if you don't think you need it can become

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<v Speaker 1>a better person. I literally have this conversation like less

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<v Speaker 1>than a week ago with someone because my friend was like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really have any like trauma in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>really have anything like bad that's ever happened to me

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<v Speaker 1>that I feel like I've talked about. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>but being like a human being is trum attic. Put

0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.879
<v Speaker 1>it on a shirt. Like literally being born as a

0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>traumatizing experience. Like it's just like growing up, like learning

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.119
<v Speaker 1>how to do things, and like you know, tripping and

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.120
<v Speaker 1>falling whatever, Like you can't say that you've never gone

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<v Speaker 1>through anything before, you know, Like yeah, so I told

0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:17.040
<v Speaker 1>him you don't just because you don't have these like

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<v Speaker 1>huge things you can cite. I think it's still really

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<v Speaker 1>important to like just talk about your feelings and your

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<v Speaker 1>emotions and look at things through a new lens, get

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<v Speaker 1>another opinion. I don't know. I'm a bit therapy me too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I used to be so ashamed of

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<v Speaker 1>it because my old best friends, um would say the

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<v Speaker 1>therapies for the crazy. After knowing that I went, I

0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.159
<v Speaker 1>hate and I was like, no, not really, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to better myself as a human. Like you should

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 1>do that too, we should. Yeah, I think that's so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so sad to me that like people like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make it that people who struggle with their mental

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<v Speaker 1>health or like crazy or like people who therapy are

0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like inherently going to some bad or I'm like, no,

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>actually means I'm like one step ahead and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to look out for myself, um and get to know

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<v Speaker 1>who I am. Um. I think a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I'm I can make this judgment about

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<v Speaker 1>what you just said about your old best friend, like

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.439
<v Speaker 1>probably don't want to know, Like there's certain things that

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<v Speaker 1>she probably doesn't want to acknowledge, And that's fine too,

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<v Speaker 1>But like, don't say that we're crazy because we go

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<v Speaker 1>to therapy, Like just say that you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>learn certain things because you'd rather just leave those stones unturned.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine too. And something that I've realized more recently

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<v Speaker 1>is that if I hadn't struggled with O c D,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I hadn't gone through anxiety in my entire life,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be where I am, and I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you where we are right now. For sure,

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you would be creating the art that you've created. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think so it can suck it. It makes us

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<v Speaker 1>who we are, and I feel like we should embrace

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<v Speaker 1>that more. Yeah, And I think that I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>grateful that I've gone through things and I've come out

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<v Speaker 1>stronger the other side because I you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I tried to speak to my fans and my

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<v Speaker 1>followers and whoever's listening about mental health, particularly a lot.

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I try to talk about it as candidly as I can,

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<v Speaker 1>and just like these people to know that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>alone in their struggles and they're not like the only

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.879
<v Speaker 1>ones feeling that way. It's it's really important for me

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, like we said, social media is such

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.600
<v Speaker 1>a false narrative all the time. We're all guilty of it.

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I know I am, and so I think that when

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I can be candid and when I can do these

0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 1>little live streams, even it's even if it's for like

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.720
<v Speaker 1>just my die hard fan base who follows this private account,

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that to me like impacts people and it makes people

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<v Speaker 1>realize they're not alone in their struggles. And that's like

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<v Speaker 1>really really important to me. And it feels like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like part of my life journey to like let people

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:30.480
<v Speaker 1>know they're like not alone. Like I. It's like, really

0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 1>what I care about the same here. And I feel like, also,

0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I remember, like that's what music is. I remember the

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:39.359
<v Speaker 1>first time, um I listened to Julia Michael's song Anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>and I listened to those lyrics, I was like, I've

0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.000
<v Speaker 1>never related to something more and that's just the power

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 1>of music. And I feel like you're doing that. You've

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<v Speaker 1>done that with your past music, you're doing that with

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:52.199
<v Speaker 1>your album, and I think it's so incredible. I know

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.360
<v Speaker 1>you're working on your second album already, I am. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you please tell me a little bit um It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for to tell anything without spilling anything, but just like

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<v Speaker 1>a little tidbit, like maybe some themes, some constant themes

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>that run throughout cool. Sure, yeah, I think that. Like

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>the most constant theme is like the evolution from Life Support,

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.120
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of just like not that I feel

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>like Life Support was a breakup album per se, but

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I was very much so going through a real breakup that,

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>like I wrote about a lot, and it was a

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 1>healing album. Sure, I love that, let's call it that.

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 1>And now it's kind of more the perspective of, like,

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, what I've gone through and how I feel

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like I've strengthened because of these things. And uh, it's

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:39.159
<v Speaker 1>more like I don't want to say confidence, but it

0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:42.400
<v Speaker 1>feels like it's a lot more like in touch with

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 1>my emotions rather than questioning them. Does that make sense?

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I like that, Like I don't know if that makes

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>any sense. No, it makes perfect sense. Yeah, just like

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>knowing knowing that like I'm valid and what I've experienced,

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:59.159
<v Speaker 1>knowing that, like you know, my emotions are real instead

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of like I feel like life support was a lot

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.239
<v Speaker 1>of me. Also, it was a lot of like just

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about my ex and things that happened in our relationship.

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.439
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I don't want to reduce myself

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>from my experiences down to like with this one relationship.

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've gone through a lot in my

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<v Speaker 1>fucking life and I want to talk about all of

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the things. So it's definitely a way more like diverse

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:22.719
<v Speaker 1>somatic album. It's not just about an X as you ship.

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. Is this coming out soon or like a

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>little further away. It's a little further away just because tour,

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't really factor in how much work I'd

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.360
<v Speaker 1>be putting in for tour, Like I I've it's been

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot, so I haven't had really time to finish

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.479
<v Speaker 1>it per se. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say, like,

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>hopefully top of next year is realistic. Okay, we have

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to take one more quick break boat. When we come back,

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk more about your mental health and any

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>advice you'd give your younger self. We'll be right back.

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>How is your mental health been? When I have a

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 1>lot going on, I can get overwhelmed. How have you

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>been Are You've been doing okay with your rehearsals and

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>all that. You know, I'm the same. We're like, I

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>get really overwhelmed when I'm um doing a lot too,

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like I have no time to do

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>things for myself, Like I'm leaving tomorrow and I'm like,

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I still have to get my nails done and I

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>still love to do my eyebrows and like things like that,

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and I haven't had any time to do them. So

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I get overwhelmed when stuff like that happens. But because

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:28.120
<v Speaker 1>it's tour, I'm just so excited and happy. So I'm

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 1>just like, yes, overwhelmed, but like I'm happily overwhelmed. I'm like,

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>keep keep overwhelming me. That's a perfect type of overwhelmed. Yeah,

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like this is great, and I'm I'm like I'm

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>so excited. I just can't believe it's like actually here

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm leaving tomorrow. That's so exciting. If you could

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>tell your younger self something or give your younger self

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a piece of advice, will be I feel like my

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>only piece of advice would to be like, firstly, like

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I know it's hard, but like please stop listening to

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>these people who literally just want to rip you down,

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>and like stop crying yourself to sleep every night, like

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll never see you. Like it was a really hard

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>thing for me for a long time to like except

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that people were seeing me in the wrong light and

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.479
<v Speaker 1>people just had the wrong idea of me, Like I

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>had to separate the idea of versus like the person,

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's it's hard for me as someone

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>who like struggles with anxiety and depression as well, and like, um,

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of a lot of other ship I

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>being seen and being validated and like feeling like I'm

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>genuinely translating who I am to the public, like has

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 1>been important to me because I've been someone like I've

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>been followed or whatever since I was twelve. That like

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>it's become part of my life where like I want

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>people to you know, know me, and I don't want

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>to ever come across like different. And I had to

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 1>add a certain point just be like there are always

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be people who have the wrong idea of you,

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and there's always going to be people who do not

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 1>see you the way you want to be seen, and

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 1>that's okay. And there are people who do, and even

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>if it's a smaller number, or even if it feels

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>like a smaller number, and it's not like I've had

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>to just try to live with that. So I would

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>definitely tell my younger self, like, you know, as long

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>as you know that you're good, and as long as

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you know that you have good intentions and um, as

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>long as you can go to sleep with yourself at night,

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>then I then I would I would tell my younger

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>self to just be okay with that. I don't just

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.640
<v Speaker 1>like give her a big hog and I'd be like, hey,

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>kids are gonna be fine, and like you're going to

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>turn out great, and I have faith is that you're

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 1>going to find your way. So yeah, I think you

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>are putting your experiences so beautifully into music and Reckless

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>is so incredible and Life Support like and I'm not

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>just saying that, I'm really not Like it's not only

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>is your storytelling incredible, but I love the instrumentation behind

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>all of it. Is there a certain song that I'm

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>sure you go in waves and relating two different songs

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you've written at different times. Is there a certain songs

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 1>from Life Support that you are currently relating to more

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>right now than others. That's interesting. Uh No, I think that,

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>like I go through phases of like, what's my favorite,

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I always say that Effortlessly is like my favorite. It's

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>just I just love the song in general. But um,

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I think like rehearsals has given me a new love

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 1>from my song Homesick because I just like love it

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's so cute, and I just like, I love

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>what we're doing in the show for it? Are you

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>can include a little Rick and Morty part as well?

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>It is in the show? Yes, you know I still

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>haven't gone to Rick and Morty. You're really fucking up

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>and missing out. But I know I am, and I've

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>seen episodes and I've loved it. I just haven't watched

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it all the way through very very much my life. Um,

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>but you should watch it. I won't peer pressure you

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>because I think you should get into it on your

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>own time. But it's really really good. I will DM

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you after I watch it, and I will let you

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>know my thoughts. Also, where do you go to school?

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>You like should come to a show? Um? Yes, please,

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I just moved out to California. I'm actually from New York. Cool,

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>So okay, we'll come to the l Show or the

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>San France or or the San Diego Show, whatever show

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>you like. Wait, when is this, uh the end of November,

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming. Yeah, Oh my god, we'll be able to

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>meet in person. You're coming, you have to come? Oh

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>my goodness. Yeah, Madison, thank you so much for coming

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>on my podcast. I feel like these conversations aren't happening enough,

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's all about these surface level stuff. So I'm

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>just very happy, thank you for just opening up and

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>being you, because it's wonderful and it should be celebrated.

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>You're so cute and it's really awesome that, like I

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>know that I'm not much older than you, but I

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>tend to like view the younger generation a bit of

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a negative light, just because I feel like a lot

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of like what I think, what I associate like nineteen

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>year olds too is like TikTok and like, you know, like,

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and I associate TikTok to like negative like hate and

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like people I feel like are like super cutthroat at

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>your age, and I mean, I'm sure you've experienced it,

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.959
<v Speaker 1>so I think it's really really hope and you should

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like be really proud of yourself for being so young

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and having this mindset. And I mean, you're literally like

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>my little brother's age, and I look at like him

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and his friends, like they're so young, and I'm just like,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you guys like don't care about any

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>of that kind of stuff, and like mental health isn't

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>something that they give a shit about. And I mean

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>they're boys or whatever. They're different. Boys are a different breed.

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Different breed for sure, But I think that it's awesome

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that someone your age like cares to have these conversations

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>and wants to and like I could tell that you're

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>genuinely passionate about it, and it means a lot to

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>someone like me who is like a mental health advocate.

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like I kind of sometimes don't like

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>break through to younger people because I feel like they don't,

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe care about it as much you're

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>reading to it as deeply. But I think I think

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing is great and I'm really proud of

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you and happy that you are doing this. It's it's

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>really really cool. That means a lot. And I feel like,

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially this industry, like we us girls got

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>to support each other. Like there's enough competition in the

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>world and there shouldn't be any with girls, and the

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>fact that there is any ridiculous. So I'm glad that

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>we can all support each other and I'm excited to

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>meet you in person, come to your show. Yes you

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>have to come. And it's I totally agree. I think that,

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>like the narrative about just being a woman and like

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>having to literally compete with other women all the time

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>is so dark and sad, and I think it's just

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>like a flaw, the many flaws in society, it's one

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>of them, and like, you know, yeah, we should all

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>be there to uplift each other and be kind and

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>like it's just life is too short to be a

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>fucking dick. Like truthfully, that's it. Yeah, that's what it

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>comes down to. It's what it comes down to. And

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's so crazy. It's crazy to me

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that it's not like a common thing, but it's not.

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Can we change that? Let's change that. I really would

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like to what's your sign? I need to ask, and

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I need to know. I'm a lie? Whoa surprising? Okay, cool?

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Really what do you think I went? I didn't honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think anything. I was going to get Sagittarius,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like pretty opposite to Leo, like bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>But also that's I think that's because I like usually

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<v Speaker 1>associate leos with like partying and being like super like hype,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm seeing you in a different light maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if I know you a girl, No, I am. My

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<v Speaker 1>ideal night is like watching Jenna Marble's YouTube videos like

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<v Speaker 1>doing a face mask. That's what. That's what. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>ideal night. I'm not a big but you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on my mood. I guess I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I've also just like coming out with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>leos who are like pretty like wild. So I don't know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited that we have met each other virtually, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to meet you in person. And You're the best.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the best. Thank you so much, seriously, this was

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<v Speaker 1>really fun. Thank you guys so much for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this week's episode of Less Biro podcast. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>listened to Life Support, or if you haven't bought tickets

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<v Speaker 1>to Madison's Score, I I only recommend you do. Madison,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on my podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely really appreciate this conversation. It helped me a lot

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<v Speaker 1>actually and inspired me. Also, if you haven't already, subscribed

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy J. That's I T S S A M M

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<v Speaker 1>Y J A y E. I will see you guys

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<v Speaker 1>next week by