WEBVTT - Draft Show: Should The Cowboys Trade Back? 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:07.280 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.640 are war room for incenter news and draft analysis from 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.120 deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:20.920 in Fresco, Dallas. Cowboys Select Elliot and now your hosts 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:25.680 Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well wait, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:27.920 welcome you to the Draft Show here from the SWBC 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:34.200 Mortgage Studios on a post Super Bowl Sunday Monday draft show, 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:39.920 getting you ready to the twenty seventeen season. Over Philadelphia 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.640 Eagles are your champions. We have officially it's always draft season. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.520 We officially say it's draft season. It's officially draft season. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.839 Like we don't have a problem anymore. I wanted to 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.959 talk about the draft. No, and you always tweet out 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:52.839 how much you love football and how much you love 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.640 to watch football. I do, And so now you know 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.080 your focus will be on the draft. You should be 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.160 watching players getting ready for this thing, saying I wasn't. No, 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.720 I'm just saying it as a fan. You should. Oh, okay, 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.360 if you're even know, if you're having withdrawals, go watch 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.240 you some college players. Yeah, go get you started that out. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.600 Go get you some highlight tapes. Go shopping, Go shopping. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.039 That's exactly right. Help this team get better. That's Dane 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:21.759 Burglar's voice, David Hellman as well Ken Garrison, executive producing. Well, 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.480 maybe take some calls later in the second half to Dan, know, Dave, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.080 you want to get into some stuff about Philadelphia and 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:28.800 some of the draft picks and things like that. I 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.560 agree with that. We maybe take some calls later on 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.399 as well. Eight eight eight eight five five two two 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.160 ninety seven. If you are so inclined, We'll do twitter 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.600 on the twenty as we always do. But I want 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.160 to start this day with I'm gonna get you guys 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.960 to try and trade. I'm gonna get you guys to 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.680 back up here if you're the Dallas Cowboys or think 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.000 about it at nineteen okay, because we always talking, and 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:53.520 maybe we'll do another show where we talk about how 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.840 aggressive we need to be here too. If a player, 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.360 But I want to know how far back are you 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.280 willing to go? You know, how far back are you 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.680 willing to go? Is there it? Now? We've we've kind 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.840 of talked about the players that are there, you know, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.080 the ones that you know at nineteen you're a little 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.959 bit of mercy of the board. You know, I'm trying 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:16.959 to figure out who's exactly there. If you if you 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.359 look at Dane Brugler's mock draft, which this is first one, 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:22.680 and what I and I want you to get into 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.040 using your top fifty because I think now we're kind 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.639 of a little bit better understanding. But if you look 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.640 at Dane's board, some of the guys that we've talked 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:36.000 about here, you know, Roquant Smith nine San Francisco. How 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.040 about Vita Vea going to the Raiders at ten? Oh okay, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:43.080 now we're starting to get a little nervous. Well, Jermaine Edmonds, 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.320 linebacker Virginia Tech. He turns around and goes to the 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.160 Dolphins at eleven. These are guys we're talking about every week, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.720 you know, possible picks for the Cowboys at nineteen. Dron 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.200 Payne's second round guy, Marcus Davenport, how about him going 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.120 to Green Bay at fourteen? Getting a little nervous, yet, 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.079 get a little nervous that your guy, you can't get 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.560 up there because these teams are making picks. I don't 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.440 think I'm nervous because we're not. You know, we're not 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.560 picking twenty eighth. We're picking nineteen. Okay, I'll just throw 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.880 Calvin Ridley and you're just gonna stay scenario. I'll just 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.600 keep throwing names at you this, keep throwing names until 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.040 I don't like. I'll throw Derwin James at you. There's 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.760 at seventeen to the to the Chargers. Okay. Now we're 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.560 sitting there thinking, are we happy the way the board's 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.040 going right now? Of course not? But not and we 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.400 can't get up in there. We're stuck. We're stuck because 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.480 we can't get up in there because we'll have to 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.080 overpay to go get one of those guys. And I 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.640 think you need to expect a scenario like that. I 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.960 totally agree. You have to go into the draft thinking 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.840 that those five or six players that you just mentioned 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.120 will not be available, and that has to be your play. Now. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.080 If one of those five or six are available, and 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.520 the Cowboys view them as highly as we do, yeah, 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.600 then by all means pounds, get your guy. But if 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.800 you get wiped out, which is a very likely scenario, Yeah, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.360 what is you know plan? Well, let me ask you this, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.120 Can I interject real? Surely? May? I just want to 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:09.960 and I get, you know, I get the purpose of 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.480 the exercise. And I like, you should be prepared for 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.560 any and all scenarios. I get that, But picking at nineteen, 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.839 you know you have sixteen to twenty first round grades 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.440 for any given draft. I usually think it's like eighteen 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.960 to twenty. But y'all, I'm going with you. Ye fourteen, 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.560 There you go that. I just I feel good about 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.000 the odds that they all feel good about a player 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.760 that's there at nineteen. I don't think you can realistically 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.920 wipe out every single option that they like. You don't 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.159 think that, I know, well, you have to go into 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.920 this draft liking somebody at nineteen. Okay, under Dane scenario. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.440 Having said that, I do. I mean, every one of 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.800 those players that I mentioned we've talked about at some 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.120 point in time on this show. Yes, and we got 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.160 a long way to go to get to the end. Yes, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.720 But I'm trying to make you think about and I 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.200 can't get this thing. I don't want to use assets 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.920 to go up. No. If okay, and then they might, 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:09.240 they very well might. But for us right now, I mean, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.440 I know you give me picks, Give me picks, give 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:16.160 me picks. There's not gonna be much suspense here if 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.160 we get wiped out like it looks like it's like 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:23.080 saying that mock draft scenario. Move me back, all of ye, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.720 give me a second round, give me a third round. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.240 Let's let's figure something out where we can get back. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:31.760 And I'm comfortable with that. All right? Yes? Again, how 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.040 far back we want to go? Let's look at some teams. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:39.360 Buffalo's got picks at twenty one and twenty two back 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.400 to back. Dallas is picked by the way folks on 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.680 their chart. On their chart, I will repeat, which no, 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.120 two teams have the same nose, two teams have the 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.479 same But on the Dallas Cowboys chart, which I hold 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:57.359 in my hands, Dallas's pick is work worth eight hundred 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.599 and seventy five points. Now we start talking about going back. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.680 We look at Buffalo, that number that one twenty two, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:11.440 it's worth seven eighty at a third round pick? You 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:16.640 okay with that? Yeah? To go to twenty two? Yeah? Okay? 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.839 Now give me a guy, then you would consider under 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:23.120 your doomsday scenario where everybody gets wiped out, give me 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.680 a guy. We're looking at we're looking at when we're 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.680 looking at Hernandez, who are we looking at there? I 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.440 think you look on a defensive line. I mean more, 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.600 he's Hurst because first there. Yeah, okay, Now, if we 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.480 stay at nineteen, according to your mock, Hurst is a 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:41.120 Dallas cowboy. That's one possibility. Yeah, okay, realistic possibility. And 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:45.360 that is a realistic possibility. I believe you're absolutely right there, right, okay, 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.679 but say that, okay Hurst. If we don't say Hurst, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.479 we trade out and we don't, yeah, we don't take Hurst. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.760 First goes nineteen, First goes nineteen to the team we 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.720 just traded. Okay, Now we're sitting at twenty two. Give 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.240 me a guy. We're still looking at those that We're 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.880 looking at those offensive linemen. You look at defensive lineman. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.440 What are you looking at? You start to look at 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:09.120 the offensive lineman. Isaiah Wynn, Billy Price Er, big guard 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.240 maybe yeah, he played mostly guard at Ohio's Day. Yeah, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.320 he can certainly do it. I think you're looking at 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.240 those two, no question. Then you look at corner I know, 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:22.440 you know, we look at the cornerback position as maybe 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.480 it's not a strength of this team, but it's a 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.000 potential strength of this team. When you talk about the 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.960 second or third round picks from last year, Woozier and 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.560 Jordan Lewis you think about what you're gonna get from 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.600 Anthony Brown in year three. We'll see what happens with 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.880 Orlando Scandrick. So it's not necessarily a strength, but as 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.480 the potential to be a strength. With where we are 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.120 right now, you don't necessarily need to go in that direction. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.760 But listen, every NFL team needs more help a corner. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.880 You think out Hughes, I mean Ward hadn't been taken here? 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.680 Do you take Ward Over's top ten? Okay? Top ten? Okay, 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.840 So that means Hughes, Mike Hughes, Jack Jackson, Jackson, Yeah, Iowa. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.360 I like Jay Alexandra a lot. Yeah, Louisville corner, I 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.480 think in that mix. So I think corner or interior 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:08.040 offensive line would be kind of those targets. Okay, with that, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.120 I feel we had this conversation last week, didn't we. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.240 I I feel better drafting a starter onto my offensive 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:20.320 line than whatever's going on in the secondary. Yeah, I 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.440 Dane's assessment was really good. Like, it's not necessarily a 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.040 strength of this team. But again, I think I use 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.440 the word efficiency last week like I want my I 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.040 want my Day one pick to be immediately starting and 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.280 either I mean, so you drafting a corner here, you 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.199 run the risk that he can't beat one of the 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.360 other guys out, or if he does, then you got 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.079 another premium draft pick who's not contributing. I mean, I 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.559 don't win in a third round pick at twenty two. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.680 Doesn't sound like a bad idea for me. It sounds great. Okay. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.240 I've been very anti offensive line at number at number, Well, 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:54.800 I know you have, but you're trying to You're you're 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.600 just trying to I'm trying to get you to tell 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.719 me who's there. What I'm saying. If you get if 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.319 just because you know, I don't know, I struggle with that. 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.120 But if you give me an extra pick, I can 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:05.920 feel a lot better about offensive Yeah I can. So 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.679 I'm trying to. Yeah, okay, let me ask you this. Okay, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.800 So we would do that thinking about that at twenty 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.000 two and twenty three. That's the rams. So that's so 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.360 I'm I'm bad at math. But if you took if 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.599 you took that deal from Buffalo, you're probably you're the 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:25.000 pick you're getting in somewhere around like eighty five. Yeah. Yeah, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.439 So I'm adding a top one hundred pick and getting 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.400 still a guy that you would consider a starter, and 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.320 you're doing the same You're basically doing the same thing 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.520 with the Rams if you went to twenty three. Holler 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:40.600 at me, are we thinking about the same players? Let's go, hey, 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.360 now we're gonna Now we're right, that's only a one 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.160 spot drop. Okay, But I'm just saying though, maybe somebody, 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.400 maybe maybe it's something different. Sorry, like I'm sorry to 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.200 live in the past when I'm just looking at your 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.760 chart that says dropping back to thirty one should net 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.000 you a second round pick. Yeah, it's not what the 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.320 Cowboys got when they did that last No, that's true, 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.560 and that's why I'm trying to get you. I'm trying 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.360 to I'm trying to educate the fans here. Yeah, that 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.720 expect more. Now, well I was gonna. Now I'm educated, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:13.000 and they better better get their fair compensation this time. 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.079 That sucked. No, absolutely, that's that was a That was 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.559 a bad panic move, is what that was. Yeah, that 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.760 was that was not having a good plan coming out 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.480 of eighteen. Well, I mean, let's kind of what we've 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.079 been talking about is a little bit of panic. Because 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.800 if we get wiped out at nineteen, you should start 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.160 seeing where Okay, whereabouts do you start seeing things really 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:36.319 being bad for you when you when you lose, I 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:37.760 mean looking to get at your but when you lose 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.400 Ridley at sixteen, you better be getting on the phone, right, 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.360 You better be getting on the phone. You think Ridley 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.560 falls that far, Yes, you do. He's the first receiver. 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.000 I like Ridley a lot, and I again I think 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.760 he'd being a perfect fit in this offense. But it's 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.719 because he is more of that Z he's he's a 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.280 high end two for me. He's not a future number 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.400 one in my opinion. He's a high end two, and 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.599 for a lot of people they feel good about, you know, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.360 getting that wide receiver at a two in the second round, 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.959 maybe even the third round. So a first round pick, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.120 a premium pick, it is asking a lot. But for 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.360 Calvin Ridley, I would absolutely use a mid first round 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:16.880 pick on him. And I think there's a good chance 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.480 he falls out of the top ten. Then you need 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.719 to think about if maybe that's a move up man, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.760 that's for another day, another show. If he gets to sixteen, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.960 we know that the Ravens are looking for skill, but anyway, 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.640 that's another day, another show. Okay, So we kind of 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.120 feel like the Buffalo deal were good. The Rams thing 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.440 at twenty three would still net you a three. We're 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:42.160 good with that, okay, Caroline, at twenty four nets you three? 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.839 Are we still talking about the same players now, you 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.560 know we're still talking about the same guys We've passed. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.319 We've passed players at twenty two or excuse me, passed 0:11:53.400 --> 0:12:00.360 Detroit Buffalo Buffalo Rams the further and you know, the 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.439 the greedy pick fan in me like, I'm like, yeah, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.360 let's fall all the way down to thirty one and 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.800 get that second round pick. But I'm freaked out by 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:14.199 what Dane's telling me about my options. Really. I mean, well, Brian, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.040 you would your opinion. Is there a player that you 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.480 would be targeting in a trade back? Is there one 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.079 specific player that you would be targeting. Yeah, I'll be 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.760 looking at Win, right, and that's that's that's my guy. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.839 If I'm gonna trade back, I'm looking I'm looking to 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.080 get my starting left guard. I have a first round 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.440 grade on Hurst, so if if he if he's taken 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.679 at nineteen, I'm okay with that. I'll also have a 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.440 first round grade on mc clinchy, the tackle offensive tackle 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.960 Notre Dame. Yeah, but Okay, So how far back would 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:47.160 you feel comfortable going and still feeling great about getting win? 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.320 All right, look at the teams, Okay, look at the teams. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:57.840 Look at teams that potentially could use offensive lineman. Okay, yeah, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.360 and it's I mean just think about just see yeah 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.800 and all exactly. But I'm just saying right now, right, 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:08.800 Rams look like they're much they're pretty set. Carolina, they're 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:13.120 gonna lose probably Norwelle the guard. Yeah, I would imagine 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.679 they could use offensive line home. Yeah. Yeah, Carolina is 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.160 really a wild card with their GM situation and yeah, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.040 with Hernie and all that, so that Carolina is a 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:26.360 wild card. They could do here. Um, Tennessee, they could 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:31.360 use more help in the interior offensive Atlanta, Atlanta. I 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.120 think they're okay, they could use a guard, but I 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.120 don't think they'd go here a guard in the first 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.800 New Orleans, I think they're set. So there's a lot 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.360 of maybes. Yeah, not like uh oh, he's win is 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.959 not falling. So so to your point, Dave, moving moving 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.320 into moving into the range of twenty eight, Yeah, where 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.360 you would start to get the second round pick. Well, 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.320 is it worth it to you to go to twenty eight. Well, 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.559 I think here's I think we have to be realistic 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.760 about who's going to trade up too. Yeah, so let's 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.199 let's take all you want to look at who the 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.120 aggressive teams could be. Well, and that's okay, why abody 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.240 needs to be there? By the way, well, that's the point. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.280 Why are we moving back Because we don't feel great 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.360 about the options at nineteen, right, So there has to 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.480 be someone of value there for a team willing to 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.760 give up a second round or second or third round 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.760 pick to move up. So who is that player? Maybe 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.520 one of those corners. What about the quarterback? Quarterback is 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.400 always gonna make somebody move Buffalo, Buffalo makes sense in 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.240 that regard. Well, and that's but I think that's why 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.520 it makes sense for one of these other teams and 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.080 get in front of Buffalo. Yeah yeah, that's if Buffalo 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.760 is picking twenty one and twenty two. In my what 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.080 if you're New Orleans, I'm thinking Buffalo goes up to 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.240 make sure they get their guy. Very possible. What if 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.040 you're New Orleans, that's an aggressive team at twenty seven, 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.840 which I just selfishly I would love it if Baker 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.040 Mayfield wound up there. So that's what I'm saying, if 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.880 Baker Mayfield somehow ends up at Dallas at nineteens on 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.160 the board and you're Sean Payton and you're thinking about 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.280 grabbing a quarterback, is that a team that you could 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.600 say that, Hey, then that right there, that's going to 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.960 twenty seven and that's picking up a three and a four. Yeah, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.560 I just but I don't. I don't think it's very 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.840 realistic because I don't think Mayfield's getting out of the 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.840 top fifteen. I just can't. So you're saying Arizona at fifteen, Yeah, 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.280 I think that's kind of his floor. I just don't 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:21.960 see him falling that far. About Miami at eleven, very possible. Absolutely, 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.520 Mayfield could go top five easy. Yeah. So no, No, 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.720 I don't just okay, I think we have to look 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.000 at which would be would somebody trade for Alan? I 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.400 would be shocked. Would Alan be the guy that somebody 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.840 comes for? There is which I know, I'm We've talked 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.960 about him a lot. But is Alan our new Paxton Lynch? 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:43.360 Is there any possibility that that happens? No, don't look 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.800 at me. Nobody saw him fall in the twenty nine, 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:50.160 was it? Yeah? Yeah, that's yeah, right around range these 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.720 quarterbacks are tough because I think there's a a very 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.080 very good chance all four go top fifteen. Okay, the 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:01.240 top Hey, that's shoving a guy your direction or two possibly, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.240 but four went in this mock draft in the top 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.040 fifteen and we still got wiped out. Did you did 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.360 you have all four going? Yeah? I think Darnald one, 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:11.200 I think was it Rosen two? But I'm sorry, Darnald one, 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:16.800 Rosen two? You had Alan five h going down the 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.200 board here? No, you do not have Mayfield? Was Mayfield 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:25.880 was fifteen Arizona? Right, So, and we had to factor 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.320 in Kirk Cousins going somewhere. You know, that could be Buffalo, 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.560 could be the Jets, It could be it's gonna wipe 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.240 out one of those quarterback options in the draft. You 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.240 kind of hope that that Cousins. If you're a Cowboy fan, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.920 you're kind of hoping that Cousins does go to one 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.080 of those teams. Though, doesn't it maybe maybe allow a 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.680 quarterback to get to you? Yeah, because then when you 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.360 look at it, Okay, what are the chances Jacksonville might 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.080 make a move. Did they really believe in a Blake Bordles? 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.000 I don't think they they can. I don't think they 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:58.120 can blake boards on a one year contract. And what 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.680 do you see that's a team? If I'm cousins, I 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.520 go to Minnesota or Jacksonville, the places I go, those 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.080 look like ready made teams to me. Yeah, a chance 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:12.520 to win. Some whispers that maybe he likes Minnesota better. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:17.000 You know what don't they have? You know? Yeah, I 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.600 mean you're ready to go from day one right there. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.639 But I'm just I guess the point I'm trying to 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.879 make is here, how greedy do you really want to be? 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.760 And I'm from the school of never trade away from 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.800 a great player. Never, And if you feel like, if 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.919 you feel like that win could be a great player, 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:38.480 or one of those cores could be a great player, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.760 you don't trade. You know, the tackle from Michigan, I meant, well, this, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.959 you know hurt. I mean, if you feel like he's 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.840 gonna be a great player, don't trade away from him 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.600 standing there and make the pick. But I'm trying to 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.679 get you to think, if you start to get wiped 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.640 out and you don't feel good about taking a three technique, 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.680 you know, and I doing my top fifty, which I'll 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.920 post this week, and I'll tweet out the link. But 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.280 I found it interesting that I had one offensive lineman 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.840 in my top seventeen. I was Nelson, Right, I have 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.920 Win at eighteen. That's that's where win is. Uh, Billy 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:18.240 Price at twenty one will hurt Nandez twenty seven. So 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.600 in the top twenty seven, I have no offensive tackles right, 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:27.520 and I've got four interior offensive linemen. So if I'm 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:31.400 trading back, I'm looking to get win and if he's 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.200 at he's not there. I'm still in the area where 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.560 I feel comfortable with drafting and will Hernandez. So you know, 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:40.400 that's a I think that's a risk I'm willing to take. 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.640 But you're gonna do it for the pick. Oh yeah, 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.560 that's that's you're doing it right, And and Okay, at 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.639 what point do you feel like though you could still 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:55.200 get her Nandez twenty five, I'm twenty six. I was yeah, 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.200 all the way back to the end of the round. Yeah, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:59.920 I think that's yeah, that's fair. So it's on everything 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.120 we've said about him. So if you were trading back 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.720 and your your intent was to get Win and a pick, 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.640 you're and you didn't all of a sudden that backfires 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.520 on you. I need to be somewhere in the twenties. Yeah, 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.200 I could. Will her Nandez go thirty one in New England? 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.800 Sure it's possible. Yeah, so I didn't get to stay 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.480 in the twenties. If you really want to get one 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:24.320 of those two guards, is the cornerback is going to 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.720 be better than a guard? I know you're gonna get it. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.920 I think that. I think either her Nandez or Win. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.080 Is this Day one starter? By the way, Oh yeah, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.400 definitely there are a Day one starter. I take Win 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.080 over her Nande's. Let's get really wild. You could draft 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.960 a corner and moved Cheet to obey a Wuzier to 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.639 the safety if you wanted to. I know a lot 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:42.159 of people are against that, and I don't blame him. 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.760 The way we saw a Wuzier play at corner down 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.359 the stretch, I don't. For the record, I wouldn't want 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.480 to move him. I thought he played really well down 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.000 the list. Yeah, I agree, But in order to get 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.080 most number of guys on the field as possible. Yeah, 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:58.760 And isn't that what they're kind of what they're doing 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.080 with Byron? I mean, instead of of seeing what he 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.920 could do a corner, keeping him at safety just because 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:07.080 that's where the personnel fits best with this current structure. 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.639 So yeah, it's it's tough. They kind of backed themselves 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.840 into a corner here with these safeties. Trying to trying 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.000 to fit a first round draft pick into what they 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.600 already have at in the secondary gives me a headache, 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.520 whereas drafting a guard doesn't give me a headache at all. 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.200 I'm just like, oh, yeah, he's the left guard. I 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.600 just it's just I like point simplicity, right, plug him, 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:30.720 plug him, play, let's go. You might you might just 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.359 take that guard at nineteen too, Yeah, good, you could. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.080 It just doesn't I don't know the offensive line my 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.960 rationale here. The offensive line is already your strength. Wait, 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.000 so where where do you are well going? You've been 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:45.640 saying all along you don't want to draft an offense, 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:47.520 but I'm trying to. I gave him a pick and 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.200 he's all four. And that's what I'm saying. It's like, 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.320