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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are war room for incenter news and draft analysis from

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Speaker 1: deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Fresco, Dallas. Cowboys Select Elliot and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well wait,

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Speaker 1: welcome you to the Draft Show here from the SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios on a post Super Bowl Sunday Monday draft show,

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Speaker 1: getting you ready to the twenty seventeen season. Over Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles are your champions. We have officially it's always draft season.

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Speaker 1: We officially say it's draft season. It's officially draft season.

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Speaker 1: Like we don't have a problem anymore. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk about the draft. No, and you always tweet out

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Speaker 1: how much you love football and how much you love

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Speaker 1: to watch football. I do, And so now you know

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Speaker 1: your focus will be on the draft. You should be

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Speaker 1: watching players getting ready for this thing, saying I wasn't. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it as a fan. You should. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: if you're even know, if you're having withdrawals, go watch

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Speaker 1: you some college players. Yeah, go get you started that out.

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Speaker 1: Go get you some highlight tapes. Go shopping, Go shopping.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Help this team get better. That's Dane

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Speaker 1: Burglar's voice, David Hellman as well Ken Garrison, executive producing. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe take some calls later in the second half to Dan, know, Dave,

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Speaker 1: you want to get into some stuff about Philadelphia and

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Speaker 1: some of the draft picks and things like that. I

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Speaker 1: agree with that. We maybe take some calls later on

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Speaker 1: as well. Eight eight eight eight five five two two

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Speaker 1: on the twenty as we always do. But I want

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Speaker 1: to start this day with I'm gonna get you guys

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Speaker 1: to try and trade. I'm gonna get you guys to

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Speaker 1: back up here if you're the Dallas Cowboys or think

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Speaker 1: about it at nineteen okay, because we always talking, and

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll do another show where we talk about how

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Speaker 1: aggressive we need to be here too. If a player,

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Speaker 1: But I want to know how far back are you

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Speaker 1: willing to go? You know, how far back are you

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Speaker 1: willing to go? Is there it? Now? We've we've kind

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Speaker 1: of talked about the players that are there, you know,

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Speaker 1: the ones that you know at nineteen you're a little

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Speaker 1: bit of mercy of the board. You know, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out who's exactly there. If you if you

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Speaker 1: look at Dane Brugler's mock draft, which this is first one,

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Speaker 1: and what I and I want you to get into

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Speaker 1: using your top fifty because I think now we're kind

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Speaker 1: of a little bit better understanding. But if you look

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Speaker 1: at Dane's board, some of the guys that we've talked

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Speaker 1: about here, you know, Roquant Smith nine San Francisco. How

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Speaker 1: about Vita Vea going to the Raiders at ten? Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: now we're starting to get a little nervous. Well, Jermaine Edmonds,

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Speaker 1: linebacker Virginia Tech. He turns around and goes to the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins at eleven. These are guys we're talking about every week,

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Speaker 1: you know, possible picks for the Cowboys at nineteen. Dron

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Speaker 1: Payne's second round guy, Marcus Davenport, how about him going

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Speaker 1: to Green Bay at fourteen? Getting a little nervous, yet,

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Speaker 1: get a little nervous that your guy, you can't get

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Speaker 1: up there because these teams are making picks. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I'm nervous because we're not. You know, we're not

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Speaker 1: picking twenty eighth. We're picking nineteen. Okay, I'll just throw

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley and you're just gonna stay scenario. I'll just

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Speaker 1: keep throwing names at you this, keep throwing names until

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Speaker 1: I don't like. I'll throw Derwin James at you. There's

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Speaker 1: at seventeen to the to the Chargers. Okay. Now we're

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Speaker 1: sitting there thinking, are we happy the way the board's

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Speaker 1: going right now? Of course not? But not and we

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Speaker 1: can't get up in there. We're stuck. We're stuck because

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Speaker 1: we can't get up in there because we'll have to

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Speaker 1: overpay to go get one of those guys. And I

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Speaker 1: think you need to expect a scenario like that. I

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Speaker 1: that those five or six players that you just mentioned

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Speaker 1: will not be available, and that has to be your play. Now.

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Speaker 1: If one of those five or six are available, and

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys view them as highly as we do, yeah,

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Speaker 1: then by all means pounds, get your guy. But if

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Speaker 1: what is you know plan? Well, let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: Can I interject real? Surely? May? I just want to

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Speaker 1: those players that I mentioned we've talked about at some

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Speaker 1: point in time on this show. Yes, and we got

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Speaker 1: a long way to go to get to the end. Yes,

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Speaker 1: But I'm trying to make you think about and I

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Speaker 1: give me a second round, give me a third round.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's figure something out where we can get back.

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Speaker 1: far back we want to go? Let's look at some teams.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's got picks at twenty one and twenty two back

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Speaker 1: their chart. On their chart, I will repeat, which no,

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Speaker 1: in my hands, Dallas's pick is work worth eight hundred

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Speaker 1: me a guy. We're still looking at those that We're

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Speaker 1: right now, you don't necessarily need to go in that direction.

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Speaker 1: But listen, every NFL team needs more help a corner.

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Speaker 1: You think out Hughes, I mean Ward hadn't been taken here?

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Speaker 1: I feel we had this conversation last week, didn't we.

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Speaker 1: I I feel better drafting a starter onto my offensive

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Speaker 1: Dane's assessment was really good. Like, it's not necessarily a

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Speaker 1: either I mean, so you drafting a corner here, you

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like a bad idea for me. It sounds great. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I've been very anti offensive line at number at number, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm bad at math. But if you took if

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Speaker 1: you took that deal from Buffalo, you're probably you're the

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Speaker 1: now we're gonna Now we're right, that's only a one

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Speaker 1: chart that says dropping back to thirty one should net

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Speaker 1: you a second round pick. Yeah, it's not what the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys got when they did that last No, that's true,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I'm trying to get you. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to I'm trying to educate the fans here. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: expect more. Now, well I was gonna. Now I'm educated,

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Speaker 1: and they better better get their fair compensation this time.

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Speaker 1: That sucked. No, absolutely, that's that was a That was

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Speaker 1: a bad panic move, is what that was. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was that was not having a good plan coming out

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Speaker 1: if we get wiped out at nineteen, you should start

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Speaker 1: seeing where Okay, whereabouts do you start seeing things really

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Speaker 1: being bad for you when you when you lose, I

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Speaker 1: mean looking to get at your but when you lose

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Speaker 1: Ridley at sixteen, you better be getting on the phone, right,

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Speaker 1: You better be getting on the phone. You think Ridley

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Speaker 1: falls that far, Yes, you do. He's the first receiver.

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Speaker 1: I like Ridley a lot, and I again I think

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Speaker 1: because he is more of that Z he's he's a

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Speaker 1: very good chance all four go top fifteen. Okay, the

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Speaker 1: you don't trade. You know, the tackle from Michigan, I meant, well, this,

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna do it for the pick. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo moves up two spots. You saw you know San

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Speaker 1: Francisco came and got that safety right read with Dallas.

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Speaker 1: A good point was the trade that got you and

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Speaker 1: you and you underpaid. Let me let me amend that

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Speaker 1: you don't see it often. Yeah, I mean Atlanta went

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Speaker 1: up two spots to get Tack McKinley last year. Like

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Speaker 1: that I could believe. So, I mean, you could convince

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Speaker 1: me maybe Buffalo comes up to get a non quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but I have a hard time believing. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota or Philadelphia is gonna jump that far for anybody

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Speaker 1: but a quarterback real quick. Derwin James is there at nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is offering their second round pick to trade up

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Speaker 1: and get him. Do you move back to Pittsburgh's pick

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Speaker 1: plus a second or do you take Derwin James? I

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Speaker 1: that's well, okay, because tough. Let me think about this

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Speaker 1: because I'm I'm you know what, I have first round

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Speaker 1: grade on Derwin James, and I think he's a really

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Speaker 1: good player. Don't, don't, don't, don't trade away from a

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Speaker 1: great player. But yeah, exactly exactly like he's But this

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Speaker 1: seems like he might be a super freak. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is the deal though, you're running into because you

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Speaker 1: get you get a Pittsburgh's second round pick would be

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Speaker 1: really kind of like a late early third Yeah okay,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, be like yeah, but you're once again the

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Speaker 1: top one hundred, but now you're in a situation where

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Speaker 1: you're gonna draft Hernandez there, right, that's that's your guy.

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Speaker 1: If you make the Pittsburgh trade or Jacksonville or Minnesota

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Speaker 1: or New England or Philly, you're looking at her Nandy's

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Speaker 1: her Nandie's in a second round player. Is that worth

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Speaker 1: it to you? I don't, that's the question. And no.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what that's what makes you think. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like Eric Reid and Frederick all over again. Exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Frederick was okay for the Cowboys. Read the value. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the value wasn't there. Yeah, but it's still turned out

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Speaker 1: Frederick in a third round pick. You're like going, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean they got Terence Williams with that third round pick,

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Speaker 1: an all pro and a much maligned but starting caliber

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Speaker 1: player over Yeah, And I mean Eric Reid has been

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Speaker 1: fine for most of his career, but he's not Ed Reid. No, no, so,

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Speaker 1: but what after when James is though? I just say, see,

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00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that is a very good question.

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Speaker 1: That's why the draft is. If you if you know,

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Speaker 1: if you and you guys said it yourselves safety things

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Speaker 1: kind of weird right now? Yeah, okay, but but I

466
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Speaker 1: mean I don't know, I and I know you know,

467
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Speaker 1: his tape can be inconsistent and all that type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But like, Derwin James has the potential to be that

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Speaker 1: type of guy that like an Earl Thomas, And that's

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Speaker 1: why he's there at nineteen is because it's a potential.

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Speaker 1: But it's and that's that's a little bit scary. But

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Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of MALIEK. Cooker. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Derwin James is his tape is as good as

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Speaker 1: Malie Cookers not, but it's but you're just like, well,

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Speaker 1: why why is this guy falling like to the weird

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Speaker 1: to the point where I think it would be a

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Speaker 1: mistake on eighteen other teams parts if he fell that

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Speaker 1: far in the first place. Yeah, all right, I'll take

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Speaker 1: you out of this and you watch this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: would you rather have a safety or a guard? I

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Speaker 1: am if we're being honest, I'm very intrigued by you know,

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Speaker 1: you plug Will hernandez in right away, you get a

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Speaker 1: third round pick. I don't really I don't know that

484
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Speaker 1: you can or you plug no pluck win in whoever

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Speaker 1: you want, whatever, right you plug a guy in, that's

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Speaker 1: very appealing. So in that sense, like I don't know

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Speaker 1: that you can necessarily go wrong, but let's let's let's

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Speaker 1: go get a vet for like one point one mill

489
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Speaker 1: in free agency and bring me the guy that's got

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Speaker 1: a potential to be a six time All Pro safety.

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Speaker 1: You're going to sign Cooper back after, I don't care whatever,

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Speaker 1: or if it's not Cooper, then some other guy. Like

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Speaker 1: it's the strength of your team. You should be able.

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Speaker 1: If there's one place where you can bargain hunt and

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Speaker 1: have it be successful, it should be the spot where

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Speaker 1: you've got three All pros playing next to him Wilson,

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Speaker 1: So bring me Derwin James. Give him a pick, though

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Speaker 1: he'll still pick. Well, it's all about picks. Well that's

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Speaker 1: what scouts do. Give me picks, give me picks, give

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Speaker 1: me picks. But when you have a chance to draft

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Speaker 1: a potentially transcendent player, oh yeah, just shut up and

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Speaker 1: see do you call Derwin James are transcendent? I said, potentially?

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Speaker 1: All right? Is that not fair? We're way behind him,

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a show. Good question from a friend

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Speaker 1: of the show, Jonah, who you know we talked about

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Speaker 1: Ridley in the last segment. Sure would probably all agree

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Speaker 1: he's the top receiver in this class. But he wants

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Speaker 1: you to rank two through five on the receivers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got more, Kurt Gallup, Washington and Miller, DJ Moore

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Speaker 1: say again, Maryland, Christian Kirk, Jonah knows what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 1: Texas and Jonah definitely knows that's what I did. No, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: You're right. Uh, DJ Moore Maryland, Christian Kirk Texas A

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Speaker 1: and M. Gallop is Colorado State, Washington is Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 1: and Miller is Memphis. I have the same two and

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Speaker 1: three DJ Moore and then Christian Kirk. My four is

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Speaker 1: Anthony Miller, Memphis. My five is Courtland Sutton smu My

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Speaker 1: six is James Washington. My five through fifteen is where

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Speaker 1: I kind of struggle a little bit. Well, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of I struggled with it before the Senior Bowl.

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00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: James Washington played well. Still, there's still a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys in that log jam that

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Speaker 1: second third round that are going to come off the board,

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Speaker 1: and still trying to figure out the best way to

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Speaker 1: rank them. You gonna go over to Estimate and watch

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Speaker 1: sudden work out. Yeah, I mean, if you don't see

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Speaker 1: at the combine, I mean if he Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just asked. I'm just asking in a way.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what it's on our backyard over here, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what teams would work him out. You know, again,

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Speaker 1: here's the Brian Broadest phobia. Now, yeah, you're all receiver.

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Speaker 1: You're so afraid I'm afraid I'm a coward. That's I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm a coward. I admitted that's a cowardly way of looking.

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Speaker 1: When you get burned, you you know have second I

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Speaker 1: just I'm just looking at a team that needs guys

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Speaker 1: that separate. Yeah, I'm trying to think about this football team.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's the whole NFL. Everybody needs guys who

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Speaker 1: can separately. Look at that game last night, Well, look

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Speaker 1: at the game last night. We saw Alishan Jeffrey catch

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Speaker 1: a touchdown pass. Yeah, Courtland Sutton can what happened When

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00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: they put a guy on him? They can cover. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna be Jerry Race, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Courtland Sutton can be and Alshan Jeffrey, And

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Speaker 1: you can win with a guy like that on your team,

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Speaker 1: So worry about him as a rounder. I love the

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Speaker 1: sides though, Oh my gosh, I'm mesmerized by looking at him.

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Speaker 1: Dan Dane cheats and does his like one two two

599
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Speaker 1: three thing. But how many first round grades do you

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Speaker 1: have on these? Out of the five? Just I haven't

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Speaker 1: done the quarterbacks. I'm talking about receivers, Oh, receivers, I

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Speaker 1: have three three Ridley More Kirk. See that's I want

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Speaker 1: DJ More to be there at fifty and he's just

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Speaker 1: not gonna be. I don't it's these receivers are tough

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Speaker 1: because there's so many different might help him, Yeah, he

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00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: might help Dallas. He's gonna be probably five ten and

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00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: he's not the best in contested situations. It's possible. You know,

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Speaker 1: it would not shock me at all if you know

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Speaker 1: one team prefers James Washington over at DJ Moore, even

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Speaker 1: at Dante Pettis. See, I think teams are sleeping on

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Speaker 1: Pettis a little bit. I know you're not. I have

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Speaker 1: him as my number sixth guy from Uiversity. Washington's my

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Speaker 1: number seven. So if you if you have a chance

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Speaker 1: to watch him, please do how many how many first

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Speaker 1: round dish guys? I have Ridley with a solid one,

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Speaker 1: and then I've got more in Kirk with one. Two's okay,

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Speaker 1: so and then I've got Anthony Miller, Courtland Sutton, James

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Speaker 1: Washington with a solid two. There's something about Anthony Miller

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Speaker 1: that's good and I'm missing it. I just said you've

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Speaker 1: got him fifth. I mean that's just I broke all

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Speaker 1: of out. I have him actually three with well two, Okay,

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Speaker 1: more Kirk, that's three. Gallop is four, Washington five, Miller six.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, so you still have him six that of

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Speaker 1: like twenty receivers that are going to get drafted. Yeah,

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00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: but okay, is he better than Gallop? Is he better

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Speaker 1: than Washington? For me? Yes? See what you're telling me is,

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Speaker 1: see Kavanaugh knows he's receivers two at Kavanaugh is good

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Speaker 1: to watch receivers with because he's got to feel for

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Speaker 1: these guys. And I think he's got gallop. I think

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Speaker 1: we're the same, the same one thing on gallop that

631
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: did the Senior Bowl help you with Washington? Yeah, so

632
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: now you're more silently feeling good about Washington as a

633
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: second round guy. Yeah, as a second round guy, my

634
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: number two senior wide receiver behind Miller. And the thing

635
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: with Miller too is we had to find out about

636
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: the foot. There's a lot of worry there that it

637
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: could potentially knock him down a little bit. So we

638
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta be careful with Anthony Miller in the foot.

639
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, James Washington, he did help himself. I think

640
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: we're sitting at the combine, somebody will walk up to you.

641
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: A man this Miller's guy's foots, I'm not draftable fasciitis,

642
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: not draftable, Brian, and then all the fans like we

643
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: got a draft Miller and like, I don't think they're

644
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: gonna draft Miller. I remember with two years ago with

645
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: Jalen and oh god, Jylan Smith. It's not good. Not

646
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: good people. Yeah, people walk up to this guy here,

647
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: going back, going back to the first segment, You're like,

648
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm not panicking about whatever happens to Calvin Ridley because

649
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: what you're telling me is that somebody will be there

650
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: at fifty. Yeah, a good receiver will be there. See,

651
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why maybe at nineteen if he goes

652
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: a cold, Ruddley's gone to the Ravens at sixteen. You're like, okay, yeah,

653
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, not doing anything. I'm not giving

654
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: assets to go, no spots to make that work. Not

655
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: when I can find two, you know, receiver number two

656
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: or three at fifty, you've got three receivers in your

657
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: first round. Would you take a non Ridley wide receiver

658
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: at nineteen. It's a good question because it is howard.

659
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: I know I'm a coward, but no, it's a good

660
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: question because again, I can I play the card of Okay,

661
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: is Edmond's gone? Yeah, you get wiped out? Oh so

662
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: is it? Say it Hurst? You trying to trade down

663
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: Win one of these receivers I would take. I think

664
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: I would take Win. Is there any scenario where you

665
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: could see yourself taking a receiver not named Calvin really

666
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: at nineteen or you think there'll probably always be a

667
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: better That is a coward move. You're right about that. Well,

668
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: it's a coward move. What have more a Kirk in

669
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: the first round and not take them at nineteen if

670
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: they were there, Well, maybe you like Win better or

671
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: somebody else better, Maurice Hurst for instance. If you can't

672
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: envision a scenario where you would take them, then then

673
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: that's a that's a coward move. Yeah. Yeah, so you're

674
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna fix your grains. Oh that's why I have to

675
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: use one twos because not you know, just placing on

676
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: one on a guy it could be the second pick

677
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: in the draft for thirty second, you know. So I've

678
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: got one twos on moren Kirk meaning late first, early

679
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: second guys that you know, there should be a one

680
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: at nineteen hopefully. So I think at the end of

681
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: the day, what's gonna happen is it's gonna end up

682
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: being probably one wide receiver in the first You think possible, Yeah,

683
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: it's possible. Yeah, I do, and I and I and I.

684
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: That hasn't happened, I said on the last I mean,

685
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: going back to Dez. That hasn't I mean, that hasn't

686
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: happened in the last decade. We had three in the

687
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: top ten last year. Yeah. See that's it didn't turn

688
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: out very well for those teams. But you know, in

689
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: the first season, but we'll see. Well, you know that

690
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: is a coward move. I just sitting there thinking about it,

691
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: because if you if you're not willing to take one

692
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: of those guys, and I think their first round players.

693
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: Maybe the fact is I should have win in the first.

694
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: Oh he's a first round player. Yeah yeah, I mean maybe,

695
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean maybe and maybe. Yeah. It sounds like you

696
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying thinking to do. No, No, it's

697
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: not the thinking about the wide receivers. It's okay, why

698
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: do I have win in the second? I don't know, Brian,

699
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: why do you know that? That's that's good point, probably

700
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: the question of the day. Brian just had an epiphany

701
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: right here on the air, it's it's good, good, good

702
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: thoughts we talk about and we talked about the pan

703
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: the panic move, yeah for Travis in twenty thirteen, so

704
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: Rob wants to know, and I think things have changed

705
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: a little bit in the five years since then. But

706
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: you know, talking about trading, he said, you know who

707
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: makes the decision on how far up and how far

708
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: down you're willing to go? And when do you make

709
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: that decision? Stephen Jones is usually the guy that runs

710
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: the to use a phrase that's used in the synd

711
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: in the house all that stuff, the majority whip, the

712
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: guy that gets everybody going. Stephen Jones is the whip

713
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: in this one. He's he's the guy that kind of

714
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 1: to me, not kind of because I've experienced it. They'll

715
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: field calls, they'll see what's going on, they'll have a plan, Okay,

716
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: what we need to do or how's this thing going again?

717
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: They made a panic move in that Travis Frederick trade. Yeah,

718
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: that's just a bail. Yeah, but I think what you

719
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: kind of see things going in and I think it's

720
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: different with Will and how things are set up with him.

721
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: What's fascinating to me? Ise and Jones to answer the

722
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: question would be the guy that kind of initiates that

723
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: you can think about it and have all these conversations

724
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: about it, but like you can't really know until the

725
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: draft is going on, So yeah, you know, we don't.

726
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: You could think up a thousand scenarios during the course

727
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: of pre draft and then something you never envisioned happens.

728
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: I mean I would take I would take the very

729
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: best mock drafters that I know, and I would follow

730
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Yeah, just and I but I wouldn't

731
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: use my board. I would use I would use some

732
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: other way of doing it, and I would think, Okay,

733
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: what is the league thinking about here? But if in fact,

734
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: if in fact that you're sitting there and it's under

735
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: the and I'm following Dane Brugler's board and things start

736
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: to go crazy like it happened, I'm I'm I've got

737
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: a plan going in and I'm I'm getting out of

738
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: there if this happens. If I start to see things happen,

739
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: I'm getting out of there. Sanchez and another trade pick,

740
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: and then we can move on, which you know you

741
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: said we could of this for another show, and we

742
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: still can. But Cowboys have some comp picks. Coming their way.

743
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: They do, which are tradeable. Now, maybe increases your odds

744
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 1: of a trade up. He's he's said in the second

745
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: round specifically, But I mean you could do whenever you want. Yeah, yeah,

746
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: and that's probably if they go, say defensive tackle in

747
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: the first round and then the second round, Will Hernandez

748
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: is still there, trade up from fifty to go get them?

749
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: What would you give up? You're probably getting two fourths

750
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: and two fifths. Well let me just let me just

751
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: give me an idea or two fourth and one fifth?

752
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: What's your your picks at fifty? Right? Yeah, say we

753
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: have to go up that picks worth four hundred thirty

754
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: five to get Will hernande the thirty five, you're gonna

755
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: have to give up one hundred and fifty. How much

756
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: is the third worth? Third is worth? That pick would

757
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: be eighty one? Right, is that we're talking about? That's

758
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: worth one eighty five? So you'd be overpaying. Yeah, but

759
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: you gotta go. Well, you get your starter, you get

760
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: your guy. I mean, so you fourth is worth what

761
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: pick would that be? One? Oh? Is that? What do

762
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: they what's I don't even know because the comp picks happen. Yeah,

763
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: that hadn't it but it'd be just I'd just say,

764
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: Dallas is one eighteen. Just give it an example, one

765
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: eighteen that's worth fifty eight. So even if you gave

766
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: up that and your comp pick, you're still probably not

767
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: coming close to the price for that pick. You probably

768
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: got to do your third I mean kind of basically

769
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: what they did for Demark's lawrence. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

770
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: but you get thirty five and nineteen, so two starters.

771
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: You would hope, you would hope, you would hope and

772
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: that's you bet you more. Would you rather go? Okay,

773
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, that's a good question. Would

774
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: surely go up in the second round, up in the

775
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: second round, or go back in the first? Both by

776
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: Captain Greedy? Get you trade back, get an extra third,

777
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: use that third. So you trade back, though I like

778
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: your aggressiveness. You use that extra third that you've got

779
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: to move up into the second, and you end up

780
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: right where you were, except you feel better about the

781
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: players and the value that you got back in the

782
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: first which I meant to bring this up in the

783
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: first segment. I like what you did. You talk you

784
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: talk about it, like you just mentioned, you know, well,

785
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: do I really think these receivers are first round grades.

786
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: The problem I just had, but I just learned that

787
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't have win high enough. That's what I just

788
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: learned regardless. But that's almost the beauty of it, and

789
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: kind of goes back to the Taco conversation. You're not

790
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: dealing with first round players at that point anyway, So

791
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: you know, trade back to twenty eight. Let's trade back

792
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: to twenty eight, give me a second round pick, and

793
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: then just take your pick of either your best remaining

794
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: first round grades or if you have a second round

795
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: grade and you're picking at twenty eight, who cares. I mean,

796
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: get a guy you like, well, he just told you

797
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: he's got fourteen first round grades there. Well, so you're

798
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: almost certainly talking about something. I mean, it's just me,

799
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think you both would say it would

800
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: be an overvalue, like it would be early Like how

801
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: awful would it be to just take d J. Moore

802
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, assuming you got like a second round

803
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: pick out of the deal. He's thirty on my board,

804
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: so I'm fine with that. Boom done easy. He's so

805
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: he's not a first round grade. But whatever, you're picking

806
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: twenty eight and you got to pick out of it

807
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: more her Nandez my board. Now it's more. Uh man,

808
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: it goes back to the other thing where you know

809
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: you're guaranteed to get a starter in her Nandez, whereas

810
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: More's probably got to beat somebody out. YadA YadA. Yeah

811
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: you got More at one two. Yeah, I've got him

812
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: at number thirty on my board twenty seven. EJ. Moore

813
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: is my absolute no doubt about it, pet cat. But

814
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: I think her Nandez is just a more clear cut,

815
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: easy decision. I'd probably agree that's tough. We never get

816
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: through all these questions. No, um, give me one more,

817
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 1: all right, give me a couple more, We'll be fine.

818
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well, all right, if you want to do

819
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: a couple more that Adam wants to know. Let's say

820
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback falls to nineteen and there's no good offers

821
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: to bail. Is that just if? Can you even envision

822
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: a world where they would do that? Let me ask

823
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: you this, if this team, if this team was eight

824
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: and eight, again, just say they were eight and eight,

825
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: and does does Dak has a similar season to what

826
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: he just had? Yeah, you gotta consider it. Then it's possible. Yeah,

827
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: that's where it's possible. That that question is for twenty nineteen.

828
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: But okay, and I agree to the point of investigating.

829
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Educate though, Like we're sitting here right now really not

830
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: expecting anybody to be there, but like, what if Baker

831
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Mayfield is Teddy Bridgewater wasn't supposed to fall to the

832
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: second either? Yeah, actually with the thirty one, didn't he whatever?

833
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: Basically the second round. I remember we had we had

834
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: this conversation with Manzel, you know, if he's there, you know, one,

835
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: just take him. He was, and he was yeah, And

836
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. Uh, this is a team

837
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: that's built to win. Now, how do you think you know,

838
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: go in to locker room and ask at Jason Witten,

839
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, what do you what are you guys

840
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: doing drafting a quarterback there with you know what does

841
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: that due to your quarterback room? And there's so many

842
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: things there. So yeah, I agree with what you said. Though.

843
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: If this is a huge year for Dak a huge year,

844
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: sure it is. It's a huge year for the head coach,

845
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: it's a huge year for the quarterback. At the end

846
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: of at the end of this year, you're either talking extension, right,

847
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: we're letting a new quarterback you were looking very hard

848
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: at the quarterback Pross absolutely absolutely. If this if we

849
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: were having the draft show God Willing in twenty nineteen

850
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: and it's nine and seven and you have a new

851
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: head coach and all that and the quarterback plays, then yeah,

852
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: I think I think you're I think no, I think

853
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: all bets are off. I can't see it. This is

854
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: an important year for a lot of guys, a lot

855
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: of guys. What's the earliest that you're willing to draft

856
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback in this draft? Just like I don't know,

857
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: we weren't expecting. You've seen them all. It's the fourth Yeah,

858
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm I'm all in favor of drafting

859
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: quarterback every year or almost every year. And I like

860
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: a lalta Mike White, two guys who had the Senior Bowl.

861
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: If those guys are available in the fourth, fifth, sixth

862
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: rounds somewhere, you know, I would feel comfortable drafting a

863
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: guy in that range. You know he's your your your

864
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: third stringer from day one. Who knows he might beat

865
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: out Cooper Rush in the preseason. Yeah, and you feel

866
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: better about, you know, your quarterback room than you did

867
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: coming in. Would it be hard to pass Baker Mayfield

868
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: though at thirteen, all right, nineteen be hard to pass

869
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: up on him? Yeah, No, I'm not. I don't think

870
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: it's just something not worried. I'm not worried about that

871
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: decision because he's not gonna be there in my mind. Okay,

872
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: So I all right, let me ask you this. What

873
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: if it's Josh Allen? Yeah, I don't Okay, I know

874
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: in your scenario he wasn't there. Yeah, okay. If one

875
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks falls to nineteen, yeah, take your pick.

876
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: If it's Alan or all right, what's the question. Is

877
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: it hard for me to pass up on? Yeah? Not me,

878
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: because I believe in Dak more than I think a

879
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: lot of people listening to this might. And Alan's twenty

880
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: nine on my board, so I'm not hit over heels

881
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: over him. May feel that I have close to top ten,

882
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: so yeah, but I just don't see him being available.

883
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: But if he is, then yeah, it's it's something you

884
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: have to think about. But I I think I agree

885
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: more with with Dave. This team is not talent poor,

886
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: is it. No? I don't know that it's as it's

887
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: not talent rich either. Probably it's a lot I thought

888
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: it if I could tell you you could have Baker

889
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: Mayfield and her nand Is at the two first two picks.

890
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: Would you would you go with that? Once? My other option,

891
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean just saying and just yeah, I'm going all

892
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: in to win this year, and I'm gonna get I'm

893
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna get me a player that's gonna help me do

894
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: that this year. I'm just trying to I'm just trying

895
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: to get you know, Washington Gallop, one of those guys. Miller. Yeah,

896
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: someone's gonna help me win this year. Leave me alone. Yeah,

897
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: give me a guy, Yeah, somebody that can help me that.

898
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: I think they've backed themselves into a corner where they

899
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: have to do that. They don't have a choice. They

900
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: have to. They have to approach this draft finding guys

901
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: that are going to help this year and help them

902
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: take that next step. There's no tomorrow for the vast

903
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: majority of guys on this team, whether you want to

904
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: talk about the coaching staff, quarterback, last chance, I mean

905
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: last chance. So I don't know why you would draft

906
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: that way this year. I'm just saying, though, maybe if

907
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: you're the if you if you're if you're Jason Garrett,

908
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: you surely hell don't want to draft a quarterback in

909
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: the first round. Right you know, if your job's on

910
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: the line, you surely don't want to draft a quarterback

911
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: in the first round. All right, thanks David, appreciate try.

912
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: We're just gonna take it day by day. Thank Coach.

913
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914
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965
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: List comes out this week. This week, this week, okay,

966
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: so this week, so Thursday show, we'll be talking snubs, snubs,

967
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: guys that got in all that kind of already kind

968
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969
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970
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: gets underway three weeks from tomorrow, I believe sounds about right. Yeah,

971
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: we will be there, all coverage, wall to wall coverage.

972
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: We have Tuesday, we get there Tuesday, so shows Wednesday, Thursday,

973
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday. Best week of the year. Yeah, so

974
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: we will. We will be hanging out there in Indianapolis

975
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: for all that. David, you wanted to get into a

976
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: little bit of some talk about Philadelphia and stuff like that. Well,

977
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we don't. We don't have to

978
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: spend them. But we don't have a boat at the

979
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: time anyway, No, we don't. I just I want to

980
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: maybe take a call or too. If Ken, if there's

981
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: somebody lined up that wants to talk to us, please

982
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: feel to jump in with us there. You know, it's

983
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: the Draft show, that's what you do. Yeah, And I

984
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: couldn't help but notice the h and really like you

985
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: go back and look at it, like you know, you

986
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: think back to the Seattle teams that were in the

987
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: back to back Super Bowls, like they their draft successes,

988
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: unbelieving Bowl right Philly. Not anything wild. But the interesting

989
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: thing to me is just like where they found like

990
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: these these guys that like helped them get over the top.

991
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: Which case in point, I mean the two that come

992
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: to mind right away, which Cowboys fans should be able

993
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: to relate to this Isaac Sumalo, who's a guy we

994
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: talked about a lot at State, and Big V. Don't

995
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: make me say his real name. But last year they

996
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: draft a guard in the third round and a tackle

997
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: in the fifth round. Both of them started last night.

998
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: Don't know how they graded out, but Jason Peters goes down.

999
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: You have some injuries along your line, a third round

1000
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: pick and a fifth round pick step in and get

1001
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: the job done. And I mean Big V has been

1002
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: starting at left tackle since October and it hasn't hasn't

1003
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: always been pretty, No, it hasn't. Which you know, there's

1004
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: part of that where it's like, well, crap, why can't

1005
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do that? What the hell? But then there's

1006
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: part of you that's like, hey, you can find guys

1007
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: that can help you fix your problem. On Day three

1008
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: of the draft, I mean pick five, pick one, sixty four,

1009
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: and then another guy that's really close to my heart,

1010
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: which still don't understand why he fell to the seventh round.

1011
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: But Jalen Mills is picked two thirty three. A lot

1012
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: of questions about Jalen Mills. Where he was going to play? Right, Yeah,

1013
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: was he gonna be? They played him at safety, they

1014
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: played Warner off the field. Stuff was not good at all.

1015
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: It was more that than anything. I remember that, but

1016
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I it's you know, when there's not as

1017
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: far as I know. Well, actually, I take that back.

1018
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: He did have like he was arrested, I believe when,

1019
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: but he never Yeah, I think the charges were dropping

1020
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: like nothing ever came of it for that And I'm

1021
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: not trying to make light of all of any of that,

1022
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't get me wrong. But to fall from like

1023
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: a second third round grade to the end of the

1024
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: seventh round, I mean, yeah, that was wild. H nine

1025
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: tackles and two pass breakups last night. It's at corner.

1026
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: It's not too bad, and it's these character guys. It's

1027
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: it's tough because you know, Randy Moss has talked about

1028
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: a lot this weekend going into the Hall of Fame

1029
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: and how the Cowboys passed. But if Randy Moss was

1030
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: in this draft, we'd be killing him for all the

1031
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: off field stuff. It's a laundry list of stuff. Yeah,

1032
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's tough when to take a chance on him.

1033
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: You know, do you take a chance. Do you want

1034
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: that type of guy in your locker room? You know,

1035
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: sometimes the talent is worth the risk. I'll give you

1036
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: a great example of Philadelphia. I was in that draft,

1037
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: the ninety eight draft at Moss came out in and

1038
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: I was with Philadelphia, and I remember vilely Jeff Lurry

1039
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: the night before the draft came up and I was

1040
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: just explaining all the tags on the board. We were

1041
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: just standing there and we were talking about courtesyins and

1042
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: all these guys. And he looked at me said, Brian, please,

1043
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: I would feel really comfortable if you did not if

1044
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: you took Randy Moss off the board. Yeah, there you go.

1045
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: Take Randy Moss off the board and we'll go through it.

1046
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: We'll be fine. I say, well, mister Lorio is he

1047
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: is our one of our top players on our board.

1048
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Speaker 1: He says, if you would just please take him off

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00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: the board, I would feel better. And they had some

1050
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: extensive They had done a lot of extensive lay Us

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00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: had done a lot of extensive work on him. Twenty

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: teams that did. Yeah, the league had done a lot

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00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: of work, and so that was a decision that Jeff

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00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: Laurie made. By the way, did you see my tweet

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00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Yeah, about all the days that's unbelievable.

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00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: That was crazy. You know, the numbers, every and every yea,

1057
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: every number you had was legit. Every number was legit.

1058
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: That's crazy. As the third round pick. By the way,

1059
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: he probably barely worked out too. He probably just rainy

1060
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: mush showed up and one of the most natural asked

1061
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: up a light sweat. I think he could he could

1062
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: still go for like eight hundred in the NFL today.

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00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: I mean, if you if he tried and actually care, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: I agree. But I it's you know, every year when

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00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: somebody wins the Super Bowl, you look and you expect

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00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: to see like this, Like I said, like you look

1067
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: at the same good job with some free agents and

1068
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: guys too. I mean, there's you know, the more I

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00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: do this, I and I still think obviously the draft

1070
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: is the lifeblood of the NFL. But you get you

1071
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: see what Seattle does and you get in this mode

1072
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: where you're like, well, there's one way to do it.

1073
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: It's not true because, like I mean, going back to

1074
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, the Eagles have made some really good picks.

1075
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: They've whiffed on a lot of stuff like that. It's

1076
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: not like this team is just built through the draft

1077
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: and that's it. They've made Chip Kelly got you know,

1078
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: smart free agent signings, they've traded they needed. Yeah, you're

1079
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: the biggest whiffs you're in your out. A lot of

1080
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: them by the Patriots. Yeah, they do not. They've they're

1081
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: not great drafting team. They have a plenty of misses,

1082
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: but they you know, quarterback makes so much difference and genius.

1083
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: But you know what, and I guess that's what jumps

1084
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: out to me right there is you know, Okay, Carson

1085
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: Wentz is a number one overall pick, big deal, Like

1086
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: did you expect that? You know, Fletcher Cox is a

1087
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: great and you know what, what was top ten? He's

1088
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: picked twelve? Yeah, you get those guys twelve? Yeah, I

1089
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: thought they traded up. Damn near every team hits on

1090
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: more of those than they miss. I would say Cowboys

1091
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: being one of them. They hit, They hit on Car Dallas,

1092
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: missed on Mo Butt, But more often than not, NFL

1093
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: teams hit on the obvious picks more often than not.

1094
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: But the thing is is, Okay, you know Ron Leary

1095
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: leaves in free agency and Tyron Smith gets hurt. Well,

1096
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: your left guard and your left tackle weren't up to

1097
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: snuff this year. Right, Chads Green and Byron Bell were

1098
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: not as good at hand and handling that you look

1099
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: at this. That's the crazy thing is it's not so

1100
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: much what you're all pros are doing, but how you're

1101
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: filling the roster with your Day three guys, right, I mean,

1102
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: their pick, their fifth round pick, did a way better

1103
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: job than the guys the Cowboys had this year. I

1104
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: did a piece for Dallas Morning News last week about

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00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: the best draft picks in each round the Cowboys have

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00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: had since two thousand. Who do you think is the

1107
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: best draft pick since two thousand? So the last almost

1108
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: twenty years? I think I read this. I didn't realize

1109
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 1: you wrote it, but I read it. They hadn't Who's

1110
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: the best draft pick they had out of the fifth

1111
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: round the last twenty years? They haven't had one? Orlando Yeah, okay,

1112
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: and then he's clearly number one, and then they didn't.

1113
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: There probably isn't one there isn't. My number two is

1114
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: Matt Lear because he started a Yeah, and then Joseph

1115
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: Randall was number three. They have had zero sick well,

1116
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: Orlando's Skendrick will give them that. Yeah, beside Skendrick, they've

1117
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: had zero success drafting in the fifth round. And then

1118
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, Sean Lee is the second round guy.

1119
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: I would love to know who the next one is

1120
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: after him because it's probably not great. DeMarcus Lawrence all right,

1121
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: all right, and then Andrew or Andre raw Ye shut

1122
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: me up right there. Yeah, but their second rounds, their

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00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: second rounds have been well you think of all those

1124
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: tight ends they've gone through, well, they've just they've been

1125
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: bad more often than they've been good in the second

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Speaker 1: round over the last decade. And that's that's been a

1127
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: big problem too. I mean the one to ten the

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00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys are as good as anybody in terms of your

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00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: your roster. But I think what we're seeing is and

1130
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: going into this season the depth problem. Well, I I

1131
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: thought twenty to fifty was really good in the preseas.

1132
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean, how many guys did we see have really

1133
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: good training camps and preseasons? And it did not MATERIALI

1134
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: did not bear out over when the mattered. So that's

1135
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: the thing for me is I look at teams like

1136
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: this and I'm you know, bo Allen is another guy

1137
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: the Eagles found in the seventh round four years later. Yeah,

1138
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks. Obviously he got hurt this year, but he's

1139
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: he was a third round pick. So that's you know,

1140
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: like I said, teams are teams are more are good

1141
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: at finding the all pros in the first round more

1142
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: often than not. It's how you draft on Davy three.

1143
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: And it's funny how things work with you know, because

1144
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: they tried to get Brandon Cooks, yeah, yeah, because they

1145
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: didn't and because Cooks went to New England right and

1146
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: missed most of the game with a concussion. Uh, they

1147
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: got Alshon Jeffrey. Yeah, they made a trade for uh

1148
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: Jaya Ji, yeah Ji and darby the corner. They finally

1149
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: got Nelson Aguilar to play. But that was a pick

1150
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: for the Chip Kelly regime. I not mistake it was.

1151
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: It was they finally got him to play. Well, he's

1152
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: the guy everybody celebrated when they took him and not

1153
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, right, which I think Byron's had a better

1154
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: career than him overall. Right, agree. He just won a

1155
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: super Bowl. So you know, I told you that thing

1156
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: the other day. Right out of that draft, Baron Jones

1157
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: made games played, Baron Jones played forty eight. Yeah. But

1158
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: the thing is, what's the rest of the Cowboys twenty

1159
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: fifteen draft class doing right now? I know that's the problem.

1160
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: That's and that's that's that's the problem. That issue. Randy

1161
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: Gregory's not here. Is Jazz Green that doesn't know how

1162
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: that went? It's an issue, You're absolutely I mean, Wilson Damien,

1163
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: Damien's fine. I mean for a fourth round pick. I'm

1164
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: not super disappointed by the career that he's had. It

1165
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: hasn't been amazing. But line back from Wyoming not on

1166
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: the team, the tackle from Virginia Tech not on the team. Yeah,

1167
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: that's you gotta hit on more of those, not to

1168
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: not to necessarily be good, but in order to have

1169
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: the depth to where you can stand something super Bowl

1170
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: despite and losing three different Pro bowlers. I mean, that's

1171
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: just amazing, that's right. Any right, Thank you, David, appreciate it. Yeah,

1172
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: no problem. Depth questions, We'll always love those, all right.

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Speaker 1: That's all the time we have for the Draft show today. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we will be back next uh this coming Thursday. Yeah, Thursday.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back Thursday, eleven am Central. We'll get into

1176
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Speaker 1: some combine talk, maybe some other things will pop up

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00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: that we need to know about, and we'll get to

1178
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: you get into after if you're curious. After the combines,

1179
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: we're going to get into some tell me more. Yes,

1180
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Speaker 1: that's what we want to do a little bit more

1181
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: of that, So stay tuned for all that. So from

1182
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,479
Speaker 1: my buddy Stain Burglar, David Holman, Ken't Garrison, Brian Bross,

1183
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: will see you Thursday at eleven am Central. This has

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Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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