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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob Lamba.

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Speaker 1: Today we have one for you that originally published four

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one. We're going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty nine Japanese sci fi film Gunhead. This's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. You get into some nice cyberpunk

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Speaker 1: territory with this one. So let's dive right in.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Joe McCormick and it's Mech Day on Weird

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Speaker 3: House Cinema. Rob. Is this our first No, wait what

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Speaker 3: am I asking? I was gonna say, is this our

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Speaker 3: first full on mech movie? But we did Robot Jocks

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Speaker 3: that's like an all time fave.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is coming. This would be our second

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Speaker 1: mech film. It's going to be what our second Japanese film,

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Speaker 1: And in a very broad sense, I guess it's like

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Speaker 1: what our second cyberpunk film.

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Speaker 3: I guess it depends on what you count as cyberpunk.

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Speaker 3: So today we're going to be looking at the nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty nine Japanese cyberpunk movie gun head aka gun Hato

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Speaker 3: and gun head. I know what you're thinking. Is that

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Speaker 3: spelled right?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: It is spelled with an hed instead of an hga

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Speaker 3: D like that. Isn't there a band that's called like

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Speaker 3: head p or something. I don't know anything about that band.

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Speaker 3: I remember them from when I was in high school

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Speaker 3: and they also spell it AGD. No comment, There nothing

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Speaker 3: interesting about that.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to add on that. I don't know

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Speaker 1: anything about p head though Gunhead with the AGD spelling

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Speaker 1: would be a great name for a band.

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Speaker 3: It would be. Actually, I was just thinking that. Not

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Speaker 3: only that, the logo for the movie, where the title

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Speaker 3: is rendered in the full on screen fall looks like

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Speaker 3: a band logo. It looks like the Van Halen logo

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Speaker 3: or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, some of you might be wondering, especially if

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Speaker 1: you're going to this episode's sight unseen? Is this about

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Speaker 1: a This is a Japanese cyberpunk film about a guy

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Speaker 1: with a gun for a head. No, even though that

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Speaker 1: would be a perfect perfect plot device for a Japanese

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Speaker 3: Sure, like a guy who gets some kind of virus

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Speaker 3: inside him that causes his head to fuse with a gun,

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Speaker 3: and it's all about like his identity changing as his

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Speaker 3: mind is taken over by the gun mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would that would be totally an expected plot device.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it may exist. But no, gunhead stands for something.

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Speaker 3: That's right, it's your classic acronym. This stands for rob.

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Speaker 3: You dug this up, so I have to trust you

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Speaker 3: for gun unit of heavy eliminate device.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's one of one of those kind of cheap

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Speaker 1: acronyms where they they get two letters from the second word,

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Speaker 1: So if we were being really strict about it, it

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Speaker 1: would be goohead instead of gunhead. But you know, gunhead

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it's like those government bills that are called

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Speaker 1: So again, this is a nineteen eighty nine film, And

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Speaker 3: Though I also read on the internet that the Gunhead

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Speaker 3: I was trying to write the one line elevator pitch

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this, I have to add the caveat here.

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Speaker 1: So I found myself watching the film while also checking

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Speaker 1: which didn't really This didn't make the film like a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the big one, the one that instantly gets

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Speaker 1: Now, speaking of Bandai, yes, there have been and our

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some of the actual humans

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, and then we have another major character,

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Speaker 1: inducing to American audiences, and maybe, you know, works a

436
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: little more seriously in the Polish context. Or I don't know,

437
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the you know, it's Polish inventors are also

438
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 1: having a laugh. I don't know that there's a lot

439
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: of a lot of satire in works of this nature,

440
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: for sure.

441
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: I will say that the atmosphere in Gunhead looks sufficiently

442
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 3: polluted to be set in a world where Texas is

443
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: a major international player.

444
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: All right, so the character is Texas Air Rangers Sergeant Nam,

445
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: played by Brenda Baki. If she sounds familiar, that's because

446
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: she was in Tails from the Crypt Demon Knight, which

447
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: we previously discussed, though we didn't really discuss Baki enough.

448
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: I think we were too distracted by the other cast members.

449
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Billy Zane, Jada Pinkett, William Sadler. There are a

450
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 3: lot of people sucking up screen oxygen here.

451
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, those perfectly fine. In that she played Cordelia. If

452
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: you remember, she's one of the regulars there at the

453
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: down and out hotel that used to be a church,

454
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: and she's kind of a mid film victim of Billy

455
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: Zane's demon crew.

456
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 3: I believe she's the one who sets Thomas Hayden Church's

457
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: nipples on fire.

458
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: Yes, with the electrodes. Yes. So yeah, yeah, she's good

459
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: in that. And I remember watching some of the behind

460
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: the scenes features where various cast members were talking about

461
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: how she was just super nice and a pleasure to

462
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: work with. But yes, in this she plays badass Texas

463
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: Air Ranger Sergeant nim Now. Other than these two films,

464
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Speaker 1: I guess her biggest screen roles were in La Confidential,

465
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: where she played Lanta Turner, Hot Shots Part Due and

466
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: also Under Siege two Dark Territory, which we've also mentioned

467
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: on the show before.

468
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: Not because we watched it. It seems there's a lot

469
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Speaker 3: of intersection there. We keep coming up against actors and

470
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Speaker 3: directors who worked on that film.

471
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Baki's worked a lot in TV and film,

472
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: but we should probably highlight her work in Death Spot

473
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty nine, And interestingly enough, her first screen

474
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: credit was a nineteen eighty six comedy that I've not

475
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: seen called Last Resort, which also featured Charles Grodin, Megan Malay,

476
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: John Lovett's Garrett Graham. Gary Graham, Yeah, who pops up

477
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: in a lot of B films. He was in Chopping Mall.

478
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 3: But he was also Beef in Fan of the Paradise.

479
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mario van Peebles whoa and Phil Hartman whoa. Yeah,

480
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: so interesting. I don't know anything about that film, but

481
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: that's quite quite a cast to kick off with. And

482
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a bit part for I

483
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: think it was a fairly decent part in the film.

484
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: Now, I do think it's an interesting choice that they

485
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 3: make the representative of Texas in this movie, not a

486
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: character like texts in Robot Jocks, who's just you know,

487
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 3: Buck Strickland from King of the Hill. That instead they

488
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 3: make the representative of Texas this kind of cool, unflappable

489
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 3: air cavalry lady.

490
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's There's not really much I guess you'd say

491
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: t exploitation going on with this character. She's not even

492
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: wearing a cowboy hat.

493
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: She doesn't even have an accent. No, no, I mean

494
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 3: it's not a Texas accent. She might have right, more

495
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: kind of West Coast sounding.

496
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a you know, she she's good. I guess

497
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: she's kind of Ripley esque without you know, being that

498
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: like strong a screen presence at all. But you know,

499
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: she does a good job. She's a kind of a

500
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: fun character as much as any human in this film

501
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: as a fun character, but as far as other characters

502
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: in the film. So there's a there's a whole crew.

503
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: We'll discuss this as we go. There's a there's an

504
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: initial crew in the film that gets weeded out pretty quickly. Yeah,

505
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: but there are some some fun actors in it, at

506
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: least initially, and one of them is this guy, Micky Curtis.

507
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's spelled mickey, like Mickey Mouse in English. Other

508
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: times you see it spelled with more with I guess

509
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: kind of a Japanese kind of spelling in English vonts miki.

510
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: But this was one of those guys that I had

511
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: no clue about this guy previously, but watching this film

512
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: force me to look him up. And he's a super

513
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: interesting character in this he plays the weird pilot Captain

514
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: Banshow But in reality he's a Japanese actor, singer, and

515
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: media personality born in Japan to English Japanese parents, and

516
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: he's been in a lot of things over the years

517
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: and it's still active to this day. Born in thirty eight,

518
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: but still acting in things. Seems like He's one of

519
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: these guys who's kind of just continually recreated himself and

520
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: tried different things, like I think he's done country music

521
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: more recently. But he apparently rose to fame initially, at

522
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: least in part, as a member of the avant garde

523
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: rock band Mickey Curtis and the Samurai in the late

524
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties. They started out as rockabilly, but then they

525
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: switched to more of a prog rock kind of sound,

526
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: and their nineteen seventy one album Kappa said to be

527
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: a masterpiece of heavy progressive rock in Japan, at least

528
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: according to prog archives dot com.

529
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Speaker 3: According to the Progtologist.

530
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I'm no prog rock expert or anything, especially

531
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: within the context of the Japanese music scene, but I

532
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: look this up. I wasn't able to find it on Spotify.

533
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: It's listed on discogs, It's certainly listed on progarchives dot com.

534
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: I was able to find the full album on YouTube.

535
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: I was streaming it there. I'll include it on the

536
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: post for this episode at Simmutamusic dot com. But it

537
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: sounded really cool to me. I was really enjoying this album.

538
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: Well, I will say as a licensed and accredited progtologist

539
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: that this is really good stuff. You know. It has

540
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: some elements that will sound familiar from a lot of

541
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: the sort of heavy psych of the late sixties early seventies,

542
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: things that will remind you of like Blue Cheer, Iron Butterfly,

543
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: but it also very much has its own sound like it.

544
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. The last track on the album, though, is a

545
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: twenty minute percussion instrumental piece. Just be ready for that.

546
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: But you know that's the last track on the album.

547
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: By the end, you're already won over or you stopped listening.

548
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: I was looking at some of the liner notes on

549
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: this album and I noticed that they are dubbed. In

550
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: the liner notes, the band is dubbed as Japan's water Children,

551
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: I guess owing back to the Koppa theme on Oh.

552
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: Oh I See like the Kappa. The monster, the water

553
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: monster we've talked about that reaches up what was it?

554
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: It reaches up through your anus and removes your liver.

555
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it causes the body to bloat in all

556
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, a spirit a monster of drowning, a rural

557
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: folk belief in Japan. And there's actually the cover art

558
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: for this album is a representation of that monster.

559
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Speaker 3: So I will say, one of my main complaints about

560
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: this movie is that the rest of the cast does

561
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: not survive longer to sort of fill it out with

562
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: their different personalities, because very quickly this movie kind of

563
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: narrows it down to a small core of characters who

564
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: survived to the end. I kind of wish we got

565
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: to see more of the salvage slash heist crew. Some

566
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: of these characters only have a couple of lines before

567
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: they get iced.

568
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Captain Banchow seems great. I mean, he's

569
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: got all this charisma. He's such a weird cat. I

570
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: want to see more of him. But yeah, it doesn't

571
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: last too long. It's like if if you had that

572
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: whole ragtag bunch in I don't know, a film like

573
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: like Aliens, you know, and you just wipe them all

574
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: out within a few minutes. And then you know, Aliens

575
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: does wipe them all out, but it takes its time.

576
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gives you a taste of them first. Yeah,

577
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: and then by the time there is a massive attack

578
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: and many of them are killed, Like, you really have

579
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: started to cherish the characters who do survive, and so,

580
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: like you know Vesquez by that point, you know, Hudson

581
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: by that point.

582
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but in this one, like there's scenes later where

583
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is talking about like he's reminiscing about ban Show

584
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, yeah, Banchow. He seemed to interesting.

585
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: Too bad he died like five minutes into the film.

586
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. So about the other characters in this crew, there

587
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: is one who is played by an actress named Aya

588
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: in Joji, who is depending on It sounded like there

589
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: were different parts where she was either being called Babe

590
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: or Babe in the English translation, and I feel like

591
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: I heard both, but they anyway, I should explain, all

592
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: of the thieves have like cute nicknames that start with B.

593
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: So it's like band Show Brooklyn, Beabey, Boxer, Boomerang, Bombay.

594
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: But I think Bombay is not like the city Bombay.

595
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: It is like bomb Bay as in on an airplane,

596
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: m okay. That's all in the English version. I'm not

597
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: sure how that all translates in the Japanese. But anyway, Bebe,

598
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: one of the main thieves, is played by Aya and Joji,

599
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: who is a Japanese film and TV actress. She was

600
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: born in nineteen sixty. I don't recognize a lot from

601
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: her filmography, but she's still working as of recent years.

602
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 3: She's done a lot of stuff. In this she plays

603
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: this character Bebe, who's kind of a no nonsense cyber

604
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: thief with like an implant. She's got sort of a

605
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: cyber eye, and it seems like she is in a

606
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: leadership role in this gang. She might be like second

607
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: in command under Captain Banshow I think.

608
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

609
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, But anyway, looking around through her filmography, it looks

610
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: like another one of the big things that Njoji did

611
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: was a TV series in the nineties called gto Colin

612
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: Great Teacher onie Zuka, And I just want to read

613
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: the description quote onie Zuka, a former delinquent finds himself

614
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 3: in the role of a high school teacher, facing students

615
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: who behave just as he used to. Using unusual methods,

616
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: he manages to reach through to his students and help

617
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: them with their problems.

618
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Speaker 1: Delightful.

619
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Speaker 3: I know I've seen an exact version of the story before,

620
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: but I can't remember what it was. Is that what

621
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: happens in the principle?

622
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Speaker 1: Oh wait, is that the principle is that the one

623
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Speaker 1: with what's his name Tom? Not Tom? He's got Bearringer

624
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: in it Tom Beringer.

625
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: Barringer could be Tom Behringer. He was like I was

626
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: a sniper when.

627
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's that kind of maybe I'm thinking of

628
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: a different film then that one. It's like he's like

629
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: a former Special Forces guy who comes in and like

630
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: fights back against the punk kids. You know. It's kind

631
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: of a Hell City Hell School film from I guess

632
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: probably the nineties or the early two thousands.

633
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess I've never seen it. I think maybe

634
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: I saw commercials for it on TV when they were

635
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: going to like play it on TNT or whatever.

636
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but No, the idea of like the former troubled

637
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: student becoming the teacher who reaches out to troubled kids,

638
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a common enough trope, but it's

639
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: in the sort of film that I either don't see

640
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: or certainly don't remember.

641
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you could look at that kind of like

642
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: the role of the gun Head Machine itself in this story.

643
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: You know, he's got experience from the past where he

644
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: didn't do so well, and then the Gunhead Machine sort

645
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: of sort of shepherds the humans through their their final

646
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: conflict with the Chiron five.

647
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I guess.

648
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: I'm reaching here. Okay, I was just looking at a

649
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: couple more of the actors from the main crew. You've

650
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: got a guy named James Brewster Thompson who plays a

651
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: character named Barabbas also gets killed very quickly in the movie.

652
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: But this guy was an actor and a competitive judo practitioner.

653
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 3: It looks like he was also in the movie Lion

654
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Speaker 3: Heart with Jean Claude Van Dam Okay, and then I'll

655
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: give a shout out to Jay Kabira who plays Bombay.

656
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: Kabira was also a Japanese actor, born in nineteen sixty

657
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: two in Okinawa. Looks like Gunhead was his first movie.

658
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: He's still acting. Don't recognize anything from his IMDb, but

659
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: he provides some nice levity in the first third of

660
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: this movie.

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00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember him being kind of a fun care

662
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: another fun character that died too soon. Yeah, all right, well,

663
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Speaker 1: let's get into the plot of this film. It begins

664
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Speaker 1: with that beautiful toe hoo title screen, which, like we

665
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: said already, just is beautiful and invites you in. It

666
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: gleams like the sun.

667
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: It's gorgeous. I'm salivating, my brain is salivating. But anyway,

668
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 3: that is a short prelude to what in this film

669
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: is I'm just going to say, a ridiculous amount of

670
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: opening exposition and backstory. You get opening text, you get voiceover, narration,

671
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: you get all kinds of stuff. But I think we

672
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: should actually go over the opening text because that will

673
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: set the scene for the world in which this movie

674
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: takes place, and we can comment as we go on.

675
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: But the first thing you see is you're getting I

676
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: think the first thing is just on a black screen

677
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 3: and you see text that says. In the early twenty thirties,

678
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: Mankind discovered a new substance, text mexium, which enabled the

679
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 3: entire world to be controlled by a new generation of supercomputers. Now,

680
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: this text mexium is a major plot point, and I

681
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: love it.

682
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love a good fake element in a sci

683
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: fi picture. I mean, whether you're talking about unobtainium or

684
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: what have you. But but text mexium has to be

685
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: the absolute best I have ever heard it. I mean,

686
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: maybe the creators of this were not as familiar with

687
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: text mechs, the you know, the the American slash Mexican

688
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: culinary tradition. But it also seems impossible because text mechs

689
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: has itself kind of spread around the world.

690
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were trying to make sense of this name.

691
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: Why is it called tex Mexium. Now we know there

692
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 3: are some plot elements in the movie that involve Texas,

693
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: maybe as like its own country, And there are also

694
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: mechs as in mechs, which I guess you could shorten

695
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: to ex So is that I don't know. Is that

696
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 3: how it's coming together here?

697
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I think maybe it's just

698
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: an ultimately an example of something that has more appeal

699
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: to like non Americans or even non English speakers, like

700
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: it's I mean, and this goes both ways. You see this,

701
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: of course many of times with where American creators or

702
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: English speaking creators take something that they think sounds cool

703
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: in another language and applies it to their fantastic visions.

704
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: So you know, it goes both ways. Yeah, but yeah,

705
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: tex Mexium initially made me laugh, though after a while

706
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: I kind of got over the humor of it and

707
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of like bought into it. It's like, Okay, it's

708
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: tex Mexium, it's important stuff.

709
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: Well I never got over the humor, but I love

710
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: it anyway. Yeah, but okay. The opening text goes on

711
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: it says, because of the danger for its misuse. Supplies

712
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: of text mexium were kept under heavy guard at the

713
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: hyper nuclear facilities that power every major city. At the

714
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: same time, mankind's continued depletion of Earth's natural resources has

715
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 3: resulted in a scarcity of the materials necessary to build

716
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: the all powerful computers. Conductive plastics and computer chips are

717
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: more valuable than gold, and a new breed of treasure

718
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 3: hunter has evolved to fill the demand, seeking machine parts

719
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: lost or discarded by earlier generations. These soldiers of fortune

720
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 3: will brave any danger in their quest for chips, even

721
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: the forbidden zones.

722
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Speaker 1: And that already is awesome. Like, I was instantly interested

723
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: after absorbing this opening text, and ultimately I think this

724
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: is one of the things that this movie does really well,

725
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: Like it establishes an interesting sci fi world.

726
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: Oh yes, these renegade thieves rummaging through the trash of

727
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: the wars of ages past to find computer parts that

728
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: can be repurposed into the technology that we now need

729
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: to run places like I guess Japan and Texas. Okay,

730
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: so you think, after all that you're done with the

731
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: opening exposition, but nope, after that you get voiceover narration

732
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Speaker 3: as we pan overshots of a flaming battlefield full of

733
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: machine wreckage and dead bodies in power armor, and the

734
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: narration goes in the year two thousand and five on

735
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Speaker 3: a tiny volcanic island designated simply eight Jo. It's the

736
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: number eight Jo, located one thousand miles from the Asian coast.

737
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Speaker 3: The Cybor Tech Corporation that Cybor with an oar. The

738
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: Cybor Tech Corporation built the world's first fully self contained

739
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: industrial complex. Its purpose to manufacture the most advanced robots

740
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: ever known. At the heart of this complex a computer

741
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: more advanced, more powerful than any other that came before,

742
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 3: the Chirn five. Chiron five controlled every aspect of its world.

743
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 3: For twenty years, everything appeared to run smoothly. A handful

744
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: of technicians and their families were stationed on the island

745
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: as custodians, but the cruel fact was human beings were unnecessary.

746
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: On July fourth, in the year twenty twenty five, Chiron

747
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: five declared war on the world. The Allies dispatched a

748
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 3: gun head, but Italian to eight Jo. The Great Robot

749
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Speaker 3: War began. Level three eight nine, Chiron's last line of defense,

750
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Speaker 3: air robot. I think I got all that as a

751
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: direct quote. Now, we have not been told anything about

752
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: gun heads before this. This is like the opening narration,

753
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: but the Gunhead Battalion is there. And then we get

754
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Speaker 3: some more texts that tells us we're at this three

755
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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy third day of battle, and we see

756
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Speaker 3: this giant cyber tank crash through some facility wall and

757
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: you've got heavily armed ground troops apparently human, marching in

758
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Speaker 3: all around it. The tank, I believe is one of

759
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Speaker 3: the gun head units, and the text on the screen

760
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Speaker 3: tells us that on this day, the beleaguered Gunhead Battalion

761
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Speaker 3: pushed ahead for one final attack, and we see how

762
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: it all went down. It's mech versus mech. So you've

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Speaker 3: got these different types of giant armored tank type vehicles

764
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Speaker 3: advancing on each other, exchanging fire. So it's the human

765
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Speaker 3: allied gun head tanks, which look kind of like the

766
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Speaker 3: giant Skynet kill tanks, like the Hunter Killer models from

767
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: the future and Terminator, but they're more complicated than that.

768
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Speaker 3: They've got this combination of legs and wheels and a

769
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Speaker 3: bunch of different guns pointing off of them in all

770
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Speaker 3: different directions, and those are the gun Heads. Those are

771
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: the good guys, and they're against the Aerobot, which I

772
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: was trying to think of how to describe. It has

773
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Speaker 3: a characteristic front facing triangle orientation of three glowing eye

774
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: spots that shoot energy beams. And then on top of

775
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: that it has these arching claw arms that hang down

776
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: in front of the vehicle, sort of like a drooping

777
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: sauropod neck. So imagine a metal brachiosaurus with multiple necks

778
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: and heads that has this triangle of blaster eyes.

779
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for anyone out there who is who follows like

780
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: mac fiction and Japanese science fiction, these this sort of

781
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: design will look familiar because you've seen variations on this

782
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: theme plenty of times. You know. They're beautiful looking, though,

783
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: especially Gunhead, Like Gunhead is just this really well designed,

784
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: cool looking sci fi tank, and arrow Bot is this

785
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: other sci fi tank. It's maybe less interesting looking, but

786
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: different looking, so we can tell them apart in battle,

787
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: and you know, and also kind of cool.

788
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: Good joyce with the three eyes in the triangle, it

789
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: helps you distinguish which one is which when you know

790
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: you're seeing the models clash at each other.

791
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: And boy did they clash. Oh yeah, they clash a lot.

792
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're shooting at each other. One of the

793
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: Gunheads sort of looks like it has a gun that's

794
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: blasting highly focused jets of steam. I don't know if

795
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: that's what it was supposed to be, but if so,

796
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: that's a cool idea. And things are not looking so

797
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: hot for the gun Heads in this battle. The Aerobot

798
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: is a tough cookie, and in the end it seems

799
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Speaker 3: like the Aerobot smashes the Gunhead battalion and the human

800
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 3: allied forces. And then finally you get your title screen

801
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: just say as gun Head in the Van Halen esque

802
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: kind of font.

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00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, ultimately this is all still set up. We

804
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: haven't even really gotten a proper movie yet. This film

805
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: spends a lot of time prefacing the core plot. But

806
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: like I say, the world creation in this film is

807
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: one of its best attributes. It's really it's in my opinion,

808
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: really wonderful. And it takes a bit to set up.

809
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: They use all these different gimmicks to do it, but

810
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: the result is a perfectly grimy cyberpunk future set in

811
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: the aftermath of a supercomputer seemingly failed rebellion against the

812
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: human race. And and I guess to a certain extent,

813
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: the human race is sort of ambiguous victory over the

814
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: computer threat. You know, it's kind of a it's kind

815
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Speaker 1: of a rough, inconclusive ending to a terrible conflict.

816
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

817
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: Now, when I say cyberpunk, I should stress that this

818
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: is cyberpunk in the Japanese sense, which certainly has a

819
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: lot in common with the Western concept of cyberpunk, shares

820
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: many of the same elements. You see a lot of

821
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: interplay between the two. Like American and Western cyberpunk may

822
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: in many cases be inspired partially by Japanese models. Likewise,

823
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Speaker 1: Japanese cyberpunk will draw inspiration from key pieces of Western

824
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: cyberpunk sci fi, But Japanese cyberpunk is sort of in

825
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: general more hard industrial and often features a more disturbing

826
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Speaker 1: and even nightmare interpretation of human machine synthesis.

827
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to oversimplify, I might say that where American cyberpunk

828
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: is more likely to have laptop bikers, latex bodysuits, and

829
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: glossy dusters, perfect emo hair, Japanese cyberpunk is more likely

830
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: to be choking on eruptions of metallic robot tumors.

831
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it can definitely lean more into body horror. And

832
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: kind of a surreal nature. So some of the key

833
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: examples of Japanese cyberpunk include nineteen eighty nine's Tetsuo the

834
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Iron Man, which is a very kind of Lynchian, cronen

835
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Burger kind of a film.

836
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, very metal tumors again.

837
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Akira the anime from nineteen eighty eight. And then

838
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: another name that often comes up is Chosen Fukuoi's films,

839
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: particularly nine sixty four Pinocchio from nineteen ninety one. That's

840
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: one I've seen that one. That one is also wild,

841
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: very very similar in tone to Tetsuo the Iron Man.

842
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: But other films that are also noted that I haven't

843
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: seen include nineteen eighty six Death Powder in nineteen eighty

844
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Speaker 1: two's Burst City. I wanted to mention those because those,

845
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: of course, are two examples that pre date Gunhead, whereas

846
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: we have this weird situation where we can't say that

847
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: The Gunhead was inspired by Tetsuo the Iron Man because

848
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: it came out the same year, and it only comes

849
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: out a year after Akira, So it seems to be

850
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: a film that was very much a part all of

851
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: this this sci fi aesthetic movement in Japanese media. At

852
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: the time, a.

853
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: Very nineteen eighty eight eighty nine cyberpunk zeitgeist.

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00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: You might say, yeah, so there's strong elements of Japanese

855
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: cyberpunk in gun Heads visual universe, as well as elements

856
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: of the plot. It's difficult to really sum up Japanese

857
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: cyberpunk as a whole, because, of course it's not a

858
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: whole thing. It's composed of individual films and individual works

859
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: by individual creators and media companies and toy companies, et cetera.

860
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: But you can suffice to say it has its own

861
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: elements and themes that stand apart from Western cyberpunk.

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00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: Right of course, with all of the continuous back and

863
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: forth cross fertilization.

864
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So to get back.

865
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: To the movie, picking up after the title screen, you

866
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: might think we're done with narration, but nope. At this

867
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: point I was literally laughing out loud because there was

868
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 3: more voiceover narration. So we get like the camera sailing

869
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: over some clouds and we're watching lightning flash out the fog,

870
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: and then we hear for thirteen years, a deep silence

871
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: has surrounded the island. It has existed under a veil

872
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: of mystery, almost forgotten by the world until now. So

873
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 3: now I think we're finally into the plot.

874
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and ultimately watching this, you know, if you're watching

875
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: this through the first time, you might be relieved that

876
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: the narration ends. But looking back on it, I kind

877
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: of wish it had universal narration throughout. I missed the

878
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: narrator voice telling me what was happening.

879
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we're with this futuristic airplane that is soaring

880
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: through the gauntlet of thunder, and we see that the

881
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: plane is called the Merry Ann And then we're inside

882
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: meeting the crew. They try to do some intros. Honestly, again,

883
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: most of these characters get killed pretty fast, so you

884
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of time to get to know them.

885
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: Some of them I really can't identify much about them,

886
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 3: but some I can. So you got Captain Bancho, that's

887
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 3: the guy we mentioned. Mickey Curtis, who is He's great.

888
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: He's a rowdy rock and roll air wizard wearing a

889
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: leather bomber it with a light seasoning of George Carlin

890
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: Sauce I would say, yeah, yeah. And then you've got Brooklyn.

891
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: He's gonna end up being one of the main heroes

892
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: of the movie. I guess in the end, the main

893
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: heroes are Brooklyn and Sergeant Nim but Brooklyn again is

894
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 3: played by Masa hero Takashima, and they identify Brooklyn immediately

895
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: as a mechanic. When we first meet him, he is

896
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 3: flying the plane because Captain Banshow has apparently bullied him

897
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: into flying the plane. But it's clear that Brooklyn is

898
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 3: not supposed to be piloting the plane and does not

899
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: feel good about it. He's having some kind of severe

900
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: anxiety about piloting and this will go on to be

901
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 3: a major plot point throughout, and ban Show is sort

902
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: of gently harassing him. I think he's joking that, like, hey,

903
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: if you get air sick and throw up on my plane,

904
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: I will make you eat your vomit, which is cute.

905
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: But Brooklyn is kind of a spiky haired, initially taciturn

906
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 3: young man in sunglasses with a scarf over his face,

907
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: and he is holding a carrot in his mouth like

908
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: a cigar.

909
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, which I get it. Kind of maybe this

910
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: is a bugs bunny kind of thing. I don't know,

911
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: but yes, it becomes clear that Brooklyn loves carrots. He

912
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: is perhaps growing carrots on the airplane. I'm not certain

913
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: on that.

914
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 3: There's one part where we see a giant colander full

915
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 3: of enormous carrots.

916
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they they brought them at any rate, Like

917
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: carrots are important. I mean, if you have carrots in

918
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: the post apocalyptic or semi post apocalyptic cyberpunk world, eat them.

919
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: You know they're good for you.

920
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, and Brooklyn keeps playing with a revolver underneath

921
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: his coat. It's like when you know, you know those

922
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 3: guys who like they play with a knife. They've got

923
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: a pocket knife and they just fiddle with it a

924
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: lot that open it and close it and stuff. But

925
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: he does that but with a gun.

926
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Bancho is quick to remind him that this is bad.

927
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: Luck, like that that's the problem. It's bad luck. And then,

928
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 3: of course, also we meet Babe played by Aya and Joji,

929
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: who is in some she's some kind of leadership role.

930
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: She's like the lute. I think she does not tolerate

931
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: any horsing around. She might be the most like just

932
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: straight to business character. And then you meet barabas Thus

933
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: played by James Brewster Thompson, the judo guy. He seems

934
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 3: to be like the tough guy, the heavy gun hero

935
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: of the crew. You meet Bombay, who is Jacobira. He

936
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: is I would call him the goober of the bunch.

937
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 3: Like he's dressed in a funny way. He's covered in

938
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: pieces of flare, like he's got a hat that's studded

939
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: with all kinds of little pins. There was one part

940
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: where I paused it to try to see if I

941
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: could recognize what any of the pins are. But they're

942
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, like pins you would wear

943
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: on your lapel. But he's got tons of them all

944
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: over his hat. And then he's wearing a duster coat,

945
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: and inside the coat there are like a thousand spoons

946
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: or if I don't know what they were, some little

947
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 3: metallic objects just dangling inside his coat flaps. But anyway,

948
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: I was wondering, what do you call this character type?

949
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 3: It seems like something that's an archetype that's common enough

950
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 3: you need a word for it. It is the character

951
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: who is the funny, cowardly but somehow still lovable complainer,

952
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 3: very much like Bill Paxton and Aliens.

953
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or to a even more comedic extreme. You

954
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: had the sidekick of El Santo in the Dracula movie.

955
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: We discussed in a recent episode. Oh yeah, what was

956
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: his name? Abio or something it was. I know it

957
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: was parakeet in Spanish.

958
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 3: What was it, periico, Yes, yeah, And then there were

959
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: some other ones. There is Boomerang, who I think she

960
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: does like radar and tracking stuff. And then there's a guy. Yeah,

961
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: there's a guy named Boxer who we don't really get

962
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: to know very well at all. I think maybe he's

963
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: I can't remember if he's the same guy who you

964
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 3: see with a bunch of grenades on him. But there's

965
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: one thing I noticed on the Marianne. They've almost got

966
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: like a mess haul on the plane in the Marianne,

967
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 3: and they've got a refrigerator full of guns, just like

968
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: in split second.

969
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed that. That's an interesting touch. I don't

970
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: know why that is. It just seems like you're dealing

971
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: with a bunch of props, especially in kind of a

972
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: cyberpunk or dystopian future scenario, why not just use that

973
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: old refrigerator for gun storage.

974
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 3: So the Marianne is closing in on this island eight Jo,

975
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: and we know the thieves are there to recover those

976
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 3: conductive plastics and computer chips that we read about in

977
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 3: the opening text, and the plane spots a giant complex

978
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: with the landing pad on top of this three hundred

979
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: story central tower, and they go into land on top

980
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: of the tower, and where I noticed that the Marianne

981
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 3: is a fixed wing VTOL aircraft because it doesn't have

982
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: to do a horizontal runway landing. It just kind of

983
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: jets down like a helicopter.

984
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, ultimately it benefits from being a model airplane. Yeah,

985
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: they could despite how it looks, they can just make

986
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: it land however they need it to land. I mean,

987
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: but it's an impressive model. The models look good in

988
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: this film.

989
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you got the Harrier jets and stuff,

990
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: so maybe this is a descendant of that sort of thing.

991
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a specialized technology that it's quite complicated.

992
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, this film, I mean, this particular airplane does

993
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: not really look like a Harrier jet or an ospray

994
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: or anything like that. So I don't know, it's kind

995
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: of a mystery how it's achieving this. But yeah, sci Fi,

996
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: you let it.

997
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: Go, right. So they're doing all their initial scanning and assessment,

998
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: they pop out of the belly of the plane like

999
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: coming down through a hatch. They don't even have a

1000
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: ladder or stairs or anything. Why is that? Like, how

1001
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: do they get back into the plane. But they just

1002
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: drop out through this hatch in the bottom of the plane.

1003
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: And they already know, of course about the computer and

1004
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: everything on the island. Then they know there's a Chiron five.

1005
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 3: They're talking about it, so they're not in the dark here.

1006
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: I think they know what they're getting into. And while

1007
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: they're scoping the place out, they see a crashed helicopter

1008
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: on fire. They look at it through binoculars and see

1009
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: that it is a helicopter of the Texas Air Rangers.

1010
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: So I suppose their jurisdiction includes the Pacific Ocean. And

1011
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 3: they don't quite know what to make of this, but

1012
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: they're like, oh okay, now. Bombay, in his role as

1013
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 3: the the Hudson of the movie, the Bill Paxton of

1014
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 3: the movie, is of course afraid. Once he sees the

1015
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: crash helicopter, He's like, let's go to Borneo. I got

1016
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: a great tip on a club medsite plastic. He wouldn't believe,

1017
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 3: but anyway, a portion of the crew breaks off to

1018
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 3: head inside, while I believe Boomerang and Boxer stay up

1019
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: by the aircraft and pretty much as soon as they

1020
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: are left alone, they're like immediately killed unceremoniously. The defenses

1021
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: of the Chiron five just slaughter them.

1022
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because even though the supercomputer here was seemingly defeated

1023
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: or there was enough of a stalemate where it's no

1024
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: longer a threat, it still has a threat to the

1025
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: outside world anyway. It still has these very active self

1026
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: defense mechanisms that are quite lethal.

1027
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 3: Right. So, the breakoff part of the crew is wandering

1028
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: around inside the facility. They're trying to figure out how

1029
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 3: to get to the chips they're looking for, and Captain

1030
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 3: Banchow is musing about whiskey. He says, it sure would

1031
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 3: be nice to have some of that two thousand and

1032
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: one whiskey right now. I hear it was ship here

1033
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 3: a long time ago, used to make the robots dance.

1034
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: So he claims he's going to find some. But I

1035
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 3: wonder if that will come back later in the plot.

1036
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, it just might.

1037
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: So the infiltration continues. While they're wandering around in the facility,

1038
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 3: there is a wonderful Pepsi machine jump scare, and I

1039
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: will say this is a huge improvement on the standard

1040
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: cat In a closet jump scare, Bombay gets freaked out

1041
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: when a pepsi machine lunges out of him, lunges at

1042
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: him out of the dark, and they start talking about this.

1043
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 3: They're like, wow, robo cola, and Brooklyn says, robo cola

1044
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: pepsi type. It was produced in twenty twenty three on

1045
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: Island eight jo It's precious and the reference to it

1046
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: is precious. It actually reminds me of a very poignant

1047
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: scene in Cormick McCarthy's The Road where they drink a

1048
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: scavenged Coca cola and they talk about how good it is.

1049
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: I think about that every time I think about having

1050
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: a Coca cola, or I guess in this case of pepsi.

1051
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: Well, you think how much better it would be if

1052
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: if there were there were nothing this sweet in the

1053
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: world anymore.

1054
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you haven't had one in a while,

1055
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: there's nothing that sweet in the world anymore, right, Yeah,

1056
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, imagine that the sweetest thing you've had is

1057
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: a carrot, and then you're going from that to robocola

1058
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: pepsi type. I also love that this implies, or maybe

1059
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: more than imply, it's explicitly states that pepsi in the

1060
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: future is made in the same facility.

1061
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: As the robots mex kill people.

1062
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, well robots to kill people, but also this extremely

1063
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: volatile h you know, super element text Mexia or mex Texia.

1064
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: Tex mex Mexium tex Mexium. Yes, that's a good point.

1065
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 3: But I was also like, does this robocola? Does this

1066
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 3: mean it's for the robots to drink or is it

1067
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 3: just roboc like the monoail cafe in North Haverbrook, you know,

1068
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: is it just like everybody's got robot fever? So you

1069
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: know when you go into the store, everything's called that,

1070
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 3: it's you know, robo glue, and I don't know what

1071
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: people buy in the future, robo chips.

1072
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just took it to be the The cola

1073
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: delivery system is robocola, and this one has pepsi, so

1074
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: it's pepsi type. It feels good looking back. I think

1075
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm correct here, Joe, And this may be the last

1076
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: element of the film that I fully understood. Of course, yes,

1077
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: it's kept rolling on. Yeah. Yeah.

1078
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: So the team starts going down an elevator and Brooklyn

1079
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: suggests because he realizes that part of the robot war

1080
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: took place here, He's like, hey, what if we were

1081
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: to harvest gun head parts here instead of chiron chips.

1082
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: He says gun heads are very valuable, but a Captain

1083
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: Banchow says, no, we are here for the chips. We're

1084
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: here for the conductive plastic. We do not want gun

1085
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: head parts.

1086
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: Very sensible.

1087
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: Yes, Brooklyn and Bancho have a face off here where

1088
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: banshow he it's kind of like the part in Jaws

1089
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: where Quinn crushes his organic can and then Hooper crushes

1090
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: his styrofoam cup, but instead it's that Ban show pops

1091
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: open his cool ancient cigurio case and then Brooklyn opens

1092
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 3: up his cigarette case, except it's full of carrot sticks.

1093
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1094
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: But then right after this light moment, there is a

1095
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: disaster because something attacks them in the elevator. I think

1096
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: it's the defenses of the Chiron five Ban Show Captain

1097
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: Banchow our lovely rock and roll fly boy. He is killed,

1098
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: Barabbas is killed. When Barabbas gets like a pipe shoved

1099
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 3: through his guts, Bancho just gets dropped down a three

1100
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 3: hundred story shaft. And now the original team is down

1101
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: to just Brooklyn, Babe and Bombay. And after the attack,

1102
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: they immediately pretty much meet Brenda Baki, the Texas Air

1103
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: Ranger Sergeant Nim and Babe immediately realizes who she is.

1104
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: She you know, knows, okay, this is a ranger from

1105
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: the crashed helicopter, and Brenda Baki plays her like she's

1106
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 3: you know, too cool for school. She's sitting there with

1107
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: a major injury. I think she has also been attacked

1108
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: by Chiron five's defense programs. But she's just sitting there,

1109
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: like bleeding, lying against a wall, and she's got a

1110
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 3: cigarette in her mouth and she's like got a light.

1111
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: So it's that kind of thing.

1112
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a cool, cool cucumber.

1113
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 3: One thing I noted that I thought was interesting she

1114
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 3: has some kind of medical spray. So there's a wound

1115
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: on her body. And after Brooklyn helps her, like I think,

1116
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: unstick herself from some kind of thing she's like stabbed

1117
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: into on the wall, she just heals herself by spraying

1118
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 3: something out of a WD FOURT y type can all

1119
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 3: over her wound and then she seems fine And isn't

1120
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: there I think there is first aid spray in the

1121
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: Resident Evil games. Isn't that the medical thing you get

1122
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 3: in there?

1123
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: I haven't played a lot of those, but I know,

1124
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: I've encountered this sort of thing in other pieces of

1125
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: futuristic media, the idea that there's some sort of spray

1126
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: or goo that can just be applied to the wound

1127
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: it does some sort of advanced healing.

1128
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyway, Nim reveals her backstory. She is there

1129
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: on the island chasing a biodroid that went berserk in

1130
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 3: Texas and killed its colleagues at a hyper nuclear facility.

1131
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 3: And she has tracked the droid here to eight to

1132
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,959
Speaker 3: Island eight Jo, but Chiron five crashed her helicopter, killed her,

1133
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: her partner or her partners, her colleagues, and now she's

1134
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: all on her own. But she's still determined to catch

1135
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: that droid.

1136
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and unfortunately Narration guy is not here to tell

1137
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: us exactly what a biodroid is. But when we finally

1138
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: get better, looks at it like there's no question, like

1139
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: this is a this is a very Japanese cyberpunk creature.

1140
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: It's you know, this kind of like bioorganic mass of

1141
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: what might be flesh, what might be mushroom, what might

1142
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: be mechanical parts, So you know, you get this this

1143
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: biomechanical confusion from it. That is Yeah, I don't know.

1144
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: You could compare it to get but not very geagory,

1145
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: very like, there's a very based in Japanese cyberpunk, and

1146
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: it looks good, it looks creepy.

1147
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: I love the biodroid. I mean the biodroid is a

1148
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: is a humanoid shaped engine oil coated nightmare with binoculars

1149
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: for a head.

1150
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is. It is at the heart of

1151
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: Japanese cyberpunk because it's not just like the Western idea

1152
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: of becoming a machine, you know, will damage your soul.

1153
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: It's more becoming a machine well, yeah, it'll damage your soul,

1154
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: but it'll also just make you really gross. We'll do

1155
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:33,479
Speaker 1: gross things to your.

1156
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 3: Body, right, Like, I could imagine the biodroids human friends

1157
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: might be like, hey, you know you smell bad and

1158
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: you are covered in engine grease? Could you take a

1159
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: shower before you hang out with us? And it would say,

1160
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 3: why would I need to do that? I am perfectly

1161
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: lubricated for maximum optimized efficiency.

1162
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. So on paper, at this point, the plot's rolling

1163
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: pretty well. You know, we have this fabulous setting, we

1164
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: have this we have outside an outside four C. We

1165
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: have this outside enemy. So we have multiple pieces on.

1166
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: The table, right, now they continue their journey. Nim is

1167
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 3: looking for the Biodroid and the three remaining thieves are

1168
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 3: looking for the computer chips. But then there is a

1169
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: There are a number of attacks. There is an attack

1170
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 3: by sound activated mines that are part of the Chiron

1171
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: five's defense system, and they get attacked by the Biodroid,

1172
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: and Bombay is killed by the Biodroid when he is

1173
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: knocked onto a hook dangling from a chain in the

1174
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: room of the Lament Configuration, which is in the Chiron

1175
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 3: five facility for some reason. But eventually Brooklyn, Babe and

1176
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 3: Nim make their way into the heart of the Chiron

1177
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: five Level three, p. Ninety the Chiron Dome and I

1178
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 3: loved this set. So there was like a control room

1179
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: full of computer monitors with just skeletons sitting at them.

1180
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 3: I guess these are the former custodians of the facility

1181
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: who have been killed, but their bodies are still sitting

1182
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 3: there at their workstations. And then inside the core itself

1183
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: there is a line green lake and there's a vial

1184
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,959
Speaker 3: of text mexium, this precious substance at the Chiron Core.

1185
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 3: I believe the Biodroid brought it here. This may be

1186
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 3: something I'm misunderstanding, but I was trying really hard to follow.

1187
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: I think the biodroid stole the text mexium from the

1188
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: hyper nuclear facility in Texas and for some reason brought

1189
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 3: it here to Island eight Jo to put into the

1190
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 3: core of the Chiron five. Maybe because the Chiron five

1191
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 3: needed needed text mexium for some reason.

1192
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's the power source or something, right,

1193
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: like it needs it to fully activate itself again.

1194
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 3: Right. And then while they're in there in the room,

1195
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: I think the biodroid is like swimming around in the

1196
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: like it's swimming in the lime green liquid and jumping

1197
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: out at them like killer croc. And it ends up

1198
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 3: knocking Babe into the Limrida lake and that that of

1199
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: course is not good for her because obviously no human

1200
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 3: can survive this liquid. But who knows what could come

1201
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 3: of this submerge. And then only Brooklyn and Nim are left.

1202
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: It's just down to these two and they start fighting

1203
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 3: over the vial of tex mexium. They end up falling

1204
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: through a shoot down into some warehouse are There are

1205
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 3: multiple shoot surfing scenes in this movie.

1206
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of shoots, a lot of elevators like

1207
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: ultimately they again, they do a great job of creating

1208
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: this enormous industrial environment. There's just this other worldly world

1209
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: that is the result of supercomputer and its robots just

1210
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: doing its own thing without really much concern at all

1211
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: for humans for decades.

1212
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, at some point in here, they get attacked

1213
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 3: by the dreaded aerobot with the triangle of three eyes,

1214
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: and it's coming after them, and I think they escape

1215
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: it by going down yet another tube, so tube surfing

1216
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: yet again, and at some point when they get to

1217
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: the bottom, they are rescued by children. So finally we

1218
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: have a couple more human characters. Again, there are two kids.

1219
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: They are the only surviving kids of the original humans

1220
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 3: who took care of the Chiro. So I guess maybe

1221
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 3: their parents or grandparents or whatever were the people sitting

1222
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,479
Speaker 3: at those consoles at the heart of the Chiron five

1223
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 3: and the two kids are named seven and eleven. Seven

1224
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 3: is the younger brother and eleven is the older sister. Now,

1225
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: when we first meet them, the kids are are they

1226
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 3: could you tell? Are they supposed to be dressed as

1227
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 3: robots like they're trying to blend in in the facility,

1228
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 3: or are they just wearing some kind of protective suit.

1229
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wouldn't show on that either if it was

1230
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: environmental gear or what.

1231
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 3: But anyway, Brooklyn and Sergeant Nim get to know these

1232
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 3: two kids seven and eleven, and they talk about ways

1233
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: to escape the island, and they conclude the only way

1234
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 3: to get through the island's defenses is to go through

1235
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 3: chirn And so they start salvaging parts from the robot

1236
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: war gun head parts because they decide that they need

1237
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 3: a fully functioning gun head in order to defeat the

1238
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 3: aerobot so that they can get through Chiron five to

1239
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: get back to their airplane and escape. And Brooklyn thinks

1240
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 3: that he can repair a gunhead, but he's very clear

1241
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: he needs someone else who can pilot it, because I

1242
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 3: think the implication is that he is still afraid of

1243
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 3: piloting vehicles and maybe one of the kids would have

1244
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 3: to drive it or something.

1245
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not going to work. Clearly has to

1246
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: he has to summon all of his courage. He has

1247
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: to find a way to not only fix the gun

1248
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: head but pilot it, defeat the aerobot with the gun

1249
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: head so that they can escape. Yeah.

1250
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, back at the Chiron Core. Strange things are afoot.

1251
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 3: We see some kind of like weird creature busting out

1252
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: of the lime green pool, and there's a computer screen

1253
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 3: which presumably has just been showing this cybor tech screensaver

1254
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 3: for seven years or however long it's been. Suddenly it

1255
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 3: changes and it says irregular vibration detected, which is my

1256
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: favorite Beach Boys song. I'm picking up irregular vibrations, And

1257
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 3: of course that's because it's the biodid mock. Tw We

1258
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 3: get the new Biodroid reveal, because I think what has

1259
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: happened is that the Biodroid somehow absorbed or merged with Babe.

1260
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. And this again, this is very Japanese cyberpunk. The

1261
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: idea that you could just sort of slip and fall

1262
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: into a puddle of cyberpunk and become cyberpunk very good.

1263
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 3: So they end up getting the human characters end up

1264
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 3: getting some plot exposition from a computer screen, and I

1265
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 3: think the computer screen is supposed to be the central

1266
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 3: computer of a reactivated gun head. But we learned that

1267
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: the Chiron five went dormant after the Robot War in

1268
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 3: order to give humanity the time to develop what it

1269
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 3: would need in order to conquer the entire world, and

1270
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 3: what it needed was tex Mexium. So I think the

1271
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 3: idea is like, it's like, Okay, I can't win right now.

1272
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 3: I'm just going to settle down and stop fighting, and

1273
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 3: I wait for I don't know, this hyper nuclear facility

1274
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 3: in Texas or whatever to get enough text Mexium that

1275
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 3: I can have it stolen and brought to me and

1276
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 3: then I'll take over the world.

1277
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean we kind of discussed this in recent

1278
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: episodes of Stuff to Blow your Mind this week about AI, Like,

1279
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: if you're any mortal AI, time doesn't matter, you could

1280
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: do things like this and be like, well, let's just

1281
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: push pause on this war, and once technology is improved,

1282
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: I'll steal it and then I will be in a

1283
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: better position to win.

1284
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 3: Now, eventually the humans part ways, because again I was

1285
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 3: finding it hard to follow exactly what's going on here,

1286
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 3: but I think Nim and eleven, the older sister, they

1287
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 3: go off on one mission to do something with the

1288
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 3: chiron core, and then Brooklyn and seven are there trying

1289
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 3: to build, trying to restore the gun head and get

1290
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: it working. And of course this movie is, you know,

1291
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: like any good movie of this type it's a good

1292
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 3: scrap fest, so great sets, full of compelling shattered garbage.

1293
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 3: The characters are crawling over and picking through.

1294
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I no matter what was going on with the

1295
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: dialogue or the plot, I always bought the setting and

1296
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: the props and the various robots and robot effects. As

1297
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: Gunhead eventually becomes able to talk and have long conversations

1298
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: with our hero, there's like one scene where Gunhead is

1299
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,440
Speaker 1: represented by just like one of these arms or tentacles

1300
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: of Gunhead, and he's having a conversation with it, and

1301
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: it was a pretty fun scene. I love the practical effects.

1302
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 3: I love what a stand up guy Gunhead is. Once

1303
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 3: he finally starts talking and we get to know him,

1304
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 3: Gunhead is so positive, he's such a good friend. I

1305
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 3: mean it's heartwarming.

1306
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1307
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 3: I also like, while they're doing the Gunhead assembly, Brooklyn

1308
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 3: is still eating carrots, and I'm thinking, how does he

1309
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 3: still have carrots? After all he's been through where these

1310
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: carrots coming from?

1311
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, how would he survived this long without carrots?

1312
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean he must just have him secreted on his person.

1313
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: He's got him like duct taped to his leg and

1314
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: stuff underneath his clothing.

1315
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess Brooklyn has all kinds of means for

1316
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 3: getting carrots through customs. Yeah, but like I said, once

1317
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: the Gunhead was rebuilt, it starts talking to Brooklyn and seven,

1318
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 3: and it's this very positive presence in the movie. It's

1319
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 3: just so affirming. It really gives you, it really gives

1320
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 3: them confidence, and it's a great friend. But of course

1321
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 3: this comes down to I think one of the character

1322
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 3: conflicts in the movie, which is that Brooklyn is afraid

1323
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 3: of piloting things, but he must face his fears and

1324
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: pilot the gun Head. Now, when that happens, he starts

1325
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 3: piloting it. And I don't even know how to describe

1326
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: all the different ways that the gun Head moves. Like,

1327
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 3: the design of these robots is beautiful, practical effects work,

1328
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 3: all the models they must have built. I don't know

1329
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: exactly what scale they were working. But the movie in

1330
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: a way is kind of murky. I mean, like it

1331
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 3: doesn't give you really like clean clear looks at everything.

1332
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 3: But as much as you can see, it looks really good.

1333
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 3: The models are awesome.

1334
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the models are great. I think the problem and

1335
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: the reasons that I wasn't very invested in the big

1336
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: battles that tape place is that for one thing, it's

1337
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: kind of just like two robot tanks exploding at each

1338
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: other and running into each other for what seems like forever.

1339
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: But then also the environment of the very environment here

1340
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: is just unreal. It's like, like, how do I how

1341
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: do I relate to this as a human being? A

1342
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: world where tanks are moving up like vertically, yeah, for

1343
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: stories and stories and then battling each other in long

1344
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: haulways and like just industrial cathedral spaces.

1345
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. So at this point in the movie, tank time

1346
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: has come, and a lot of what happens from here

1347
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 3: on out is just tank play, you know. There is

1348
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,799
Speaker 3: it's tank versus tank, mech versus mech, and we're seeing

1349
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 3: the different types of like you know, gun head weapons

1350
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: or defenses versus Chiron five weapons or defenses.

1351
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it basically becomes tank'sploitation in the latter stages of

1352
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: this film.

1353
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: Though, I mean just several A lot of the things

1354
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: about the gun head are great, Like I love how

1355
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 3: it doesn't it's not purely wheel powered or leg powered.

1356
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 3: It has sort of a combination of legs and wheels,

1357
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: kind of like rolling track legs. Sometimes it sort of

1358
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 3: walks like an enormous metal turkey with guns all over it.

1359
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 3: Other times it has tracks and rolls like a tank.

1360
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it has different modes I guess to deal

1361
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: with different terrain types.

1362
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. So I know, big thumbs up to

1363
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 3: the gun Head. I like the gun Head. But anyway,

1364
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: what's going on with the humans at this point? I

1365
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 3: think there's I don't know. Again, it's it's not exactly

1366
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 3: the easiest to follow right here, but the Biodroid I think,

1367
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: is supposed to be returning the text mexium to the

1368
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 3: Chiron core, but is also just injecting itself with text

1369
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 3: mexium along the way, like it's using heroins. So it's

1370
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 3: taken it up to the core, but then like it

1371
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 3: stops to have a little taste.

1372
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: It earned it. It earned it.

1373
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 3: There's also a lot of cute stuff with Brooklyn and

1374
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 3: Seven bonding during their gun Head quest throughout the facility

1375
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 3: at this point, Like, well, there are some things where

1376
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: like Seven is trying to help and he's playing around

1377
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: underneath Gunhead feet and I'm like, Seven, stop doing that.

1378
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 3: That is very dangerous. But other times there's like one

1379
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 3: part where it's seven points a gun at Brooklyn a

1380
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: real gun and he makes it, you know, pewpw shooting

1381
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 3: sound in Brooklyn warns him not to do this because

1382
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 3: in a callback, it is bad luck. I'm not sure

1383
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 3: that's the main problem with it, but I don't know.

1384
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 3: Maybe there's like a dubbing translation issue. I mean, I

1385
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 3: could imagine like bad luck being another way to say

1386
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 3: that it's dangerous or something.

1387
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure. I think that the scenes with

1388
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: the kids tended to be the scenes where I was

1389
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: cross checking on Wikipedia to see what the plot was

1390
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: was doing at that point.

1391
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I agree, those were some of the hardest

1392
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 3: to understand.

1393
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1394
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: Now, now I've talked about how Gunhead is like really

1395
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: really motivating and really confident and positive. There's a great

1396
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 3: part where Gunheads starts doing this extended baseball metaphor to Brooklyn, Yes,

1397
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 3: about the Brooklyn Dodgers. He's talking about some baseball game

1398
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 3: where they were behind but then they fought through it,

1399
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: and I thought that was really funny. There's a part

1400
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 3: where the Gunhead has to be refueled using we find

1401
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: out that he can refuel with any ethanol based something.

1402
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 3: You know, basically alcohol can refuel him. And what do

1403
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 3: you know here's that salvage whiskey that Captain Banchot was

1404
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 3: talking about.

1405
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at the images of that gun

1406
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: Head model kit that I referenced earlier, there is a

1407
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: whiskey cask attached to its leg.

1408
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 3: Beautiful. Now there's another thing that I didn't fully understand,

1409
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 3: but I enjoyed at least visually. There's some kind of

1410
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: double cross with the older sister with Eleven. At some point,

1411
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 3: light starts coming out of her mouth. I like this effect.

1412
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 3: But then she like locks up Sergeant Nim and her

1413
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 3: brother and she's going to initiate control for the Chiron five.

1414
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,440
Speaker 3: I think she has some kind of computer implant controlling

1415
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 3: her behavior, Like she's she's a double a sleeper agent

1416
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 3: for the AI. Yes, and then we get this a

1417
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 3: big gun Head versus Aerobot showdown. Aerobot is overpowered, but

1418
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 3: Gunhead has a strategy, and his strategy is to take

1419
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 3: out Aerobot's three triangle eyes. And eventually Brooklyn and the

1420
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 3: gun Head are victorious. They destroy the Aerobot. Meanwhile, somehow

1421
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: Sergeant Nim stops Eleven from doing something with the text

1422
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 3: Mexium vile. I'm not sure what it was, but she

1423
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: was trying to do something bad in the Chiron five core,

1424
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 3: and Nim she gets in there and stops it from happening.

1425
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 3: And then the Biodroid is in the mix here and

1426
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 3: I couldn't exactly follow what's going on, but at some

1427
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: point the biodroid like vaporizes itself. I don't know if

1428
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 3: she has. It's like the babe part of the Babe

1429
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 3: part that is now absorbed into the biodroid, has a

1430
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 3: crisis of conscience when it sees Brooklyn and the kids

1431
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: there and Sergeant Nim, and it's like, no, what have

1432
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 3: I become? And then just like turns to light.

1433
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, one thing that it probably could have used

1434
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: more fleshing out if we were to really buy it.

1435
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: It kind of comes out of left field here, but yeah,

1436
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 1: but fair enough.

1437
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 3: But anyway, you get a standard escape sequence. Elevin is

1438
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 3: somehow cured of her Chiron glowing mouth. I don't know

1439
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 3: what happens to fix that, but now it seems like

1440
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 3: she's okay, and the four humans all scramble to escape

1441
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 3: to the Marianne and they fly away. Oh and then

1442
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 3: the best thing of all with the ending is as

1443
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 3: they're flying away, they get a message on the computer

1444
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 3: screen in the plane. They say Gunhead has sent a

1445
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 3: message to us. In fact, they thought he was destroyed,

1446
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 3: but he's alive back on the island, and he says

1447
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 3: the Gunhead Battalion has completed its mission. And then we

1448
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 3: get we get a very charming carrot chomp from Brooklyn

1449
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 3: right at the end.

1450
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: And that is Gunhead. It's a like, I say, I think,

1451
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 1: a great film to put on in the background, given

1452
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: how wonderful the visuals are. It's it was not that

1453
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: surprising to learn that Canadian electro industrial band Frontline Assembly

1454
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 1: used with permission, gun Head footage as the basis for

1455
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: their nineteen ninety two music video Mind Phaser. And they

1456
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: didn't just use the film's excellent footage. They actually shot

1457
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: themselves in costumes that looked like they belonged in gun

1458
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: Head and inserted themselves into the world. So look that

1459
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: up Mind Phaser if you want to see just flashes

1460
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 1: of this film.

1461
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I hope one of them became a biodroid.

1462
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: I think they all become biodroids. It's kind of the

1463
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: electro industrial dream, right, Yeah.

1464
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 3: I love the biodroid. I love it.

1465
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the biodroid is good, and I think the

1466
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: biodroid is ultimately more relatable because it is humanoid. The tank.

1467
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I love sci fi tanks. I love movies

1468
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: with sci fi tanks in them. I build sci fi

1469
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: tanks sometimes. But it was just I was kind of

1470
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: hard to get behind these admittedly cool sci fi tanks

1471
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: in this film, and I was thinking about this. I

1472
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: was trying to think, well, why is that? And then

1473
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: I had to ask myself, well, what tank movies do

1474
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: I actually like? And I think the for me, the

1475
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: best tank heavy movie I can think of is Kelly's Heroes.

1476
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 3: I've never seen it.

1477
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: Oh it's good. It's you know, World War two kind

1478
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: of a heisty situation, uh, you know, rogue characters, heavily

1479
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: involves tanks. The tanks are important to the plot, but

1480
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: not more important than the people, you know, And I

1481
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: guess it kind of comes down to sort of the

1482
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: reality of tank warfare too. Like tanks cannot exist on

1483
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: their own. Tanks need uh support from from from human

1484
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: beings as well, both inside and out. And that can

1485
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: be said for the plot of a film as well.

1486
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 1: Because when I started looking at lists of tank movies.

1487
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: Granted there were many that I had not seen, but

1488
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: there were others where I'm like, oh, that that was

1489
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: no good. I did not like that. You have had

1490
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: a sci fi tank, but it wasn't that good. The

1491
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 1: sci fi tanks are best in my opinion, when they're

1492
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: they're utilized within the film, like they show up in

1493
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: a couple of scenes, but they're not the whole deal.

1494
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the I like the digital tanks in

1495
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 3: trent On.

1496
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: Those were good tanks. Yeah. I think another thing about

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Speaker 1: like mech combat, and in this case mech tank combat

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Speaker 1: is that, like I said, when they were battling each other,

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Speaker 1: it were just kind of exploding at each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Robot Jocks, which granted is more about more humanoid robots

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Speaker 1: in those battles, like everything they did mattered, like they

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Speaker 1: were setting up particular moves as being important and there

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Speaker 1: was discussion about what they were. So we saw less

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Speaker 1: of that in this for sure.

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Speaker 3: I'd say the color palettes of robot Jocks versus gunheader

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Speaker 3: entirely opposite. Yeah, Robot Jocks is dominated by bright light

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Speaker 3: colors and takes place in broad daylight where you get

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Speaker 3: a very clear picture of exactly what you're looking at

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Speaker 3: to an almost comical extent, whereas Gunhead is very it's more,

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Speaker 3: you know, the dark, gritty, cyberpunk thing where everything in

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Speaker 3: the movie looks kind of like muddy and grimy and

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Speaker 3: dimly lit, so you never get a really clear look

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Speaker 3: at anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's still well, it's beautiful in its own way. Like,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love the look of the film. All Right,

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Speaker 1: you're probably wondering, well, where can I see Gunhead? Well,

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Speaker 1: it looks like it has streamed recently on Prime, but

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Speaker 1: it's not currently available to us anyway at this point

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Speaker 1: on Prime. There's a DVD that is available from Section

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Speaker 1: twenty three Films in the United States, and that's how

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Speaker 1: we watched it. We actually rented it from Videodrome, our

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Speaker 1: local video store in Atlanta, Videodrome dot TV, so that's

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Speaker 1: how we got to see it. But I believe there's

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Speaker 1: also a copy of this on archive dot org as well.

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Speaker 3: For future historians to refer to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but of course stuff comes and goes on streaming platforms.

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Speaker 1: For instance, when we reviewed Robot Jocks, it was not

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Speaker 1: available on Amazon Prime. Now it's on Amazon Prime as

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Speaker 1: of this recording. So you know, just be patient. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: in these films pop back up.

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Speaker 3: We were told when we reviewed Robot Jocks by several

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Speaker 3: listeners that it was quite coincidentally available on a platform

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Speaker 3: called too b Yes, tub I Yes. If you haven't

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Speaker 3: listened to our Robot Jacks episode, go listen to that.

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Speaker 3: You'll understand the joke.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna go ahead and close it out here,

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Speaker 1: But obviously we'd love to hear from everybody out there,

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Speaker 1: people who saw this film back in the day, people

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Speaker 1: who saw it because we mentioned it on the show.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from anyone out there who's more

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Speaker 1: versed in, say Japanese cyberpunk, Japanese science fiction in general.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this film and its place

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Speaker 1: in Japanese cinema. What are your thoughts on tank movies?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite example of tank exploitation? If so,

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Speaker 1: let us know.

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Speaker 3: Huge thanks as always to our excellent audio producer Seth

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Speaker 3: Nicholas Johnson. If you would like to get in touch

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