1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: My guess is Pushing Rod. He is a Los Angeles 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: native who was well known for the Professional Homie series. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: The Professional Homie series if you Don't aware of It 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: was created and adapted by Rob to tell the backstory 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: his The background history a story of how he came 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: from an improverished neighborhood to develop to developing his craft 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: as an A and R executive, which is also a 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: former and our Urban Music executive at Interscope Records. He 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: left about a year ago to start his own studio, 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Creative Sounds Recordings. Were very notable artists record and pursued 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: doing and are independently. He just produced YG's new album 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: hit album I Got Issues was dropped in September. He 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: became the youngest and R back in the day. He 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: became the youngest and are at in the school with 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: the age of eighteen years of eight. Wow, you gotta 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: be strong to do that. It was there for over 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: eight years. Please working with to money Making Conversations master class. 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Push your Rod. How are you doing, sir? I'm doing 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: good man. Thank you for having me today. UM want 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: to start off about just fixing one thing. Um. Actually 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: I hired that in Scope at one nineteen okay, but 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: you still were doing it. And let le meagine that 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: because it's twenty one and eighteen, those are still young ages. Correct, 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: I'll be able to say this is what I want 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: to do, because you know, I would be honest. I 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: was still in college. I didn't graduate from college, sail. 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: I was twenty three, okay and so and really that's 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: when I graduated. I still was trying to figure myself 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: out into college, you know, taking classes, dropping classes, Um, 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: physics class, that's my that was my wake up calls, 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: and hey, you are you're gonna get serious and try 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: to get out of college. But at twenty one, you 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: knew this is what you wanted to do. Tell us 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: how you got that process in your mind and who 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: helps you get there? Because in your intro you say 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: you come from an impoverished neighborhood. Yeah, no percent. I've 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: been friends with White Jeans a long period of time, 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: since we're young teenagers. Um, his career had started to 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: take off, and I was just a friend. I was 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: one of the homies that was around, but I wasn't 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: one of the homies who just always just sat there. Um, 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: I do parties. I passed out mix tapes. UM, I 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: took him the shows. I did whatever it took to 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: show my value to the team at the time. UM 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: and going starting off doing that, then you start meeting 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: other rappers. You started meeting other producers, so you know, 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: you say, hey, you know I worked with so and so. 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: I would love to connect y'all. And then small connections 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: like that wind up to be bigger connections in life. 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: Like for example, UM, we were out shooting a y 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: G video on fairfaxx UM and hy G shouted Drake 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: out in the song and just so happened randomly, Drake 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: was done strigg at the our Future store. So while 54 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: they were re shooting the video, I literally went down 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: walked down to our Future store because I went to 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: school with Tyler than the creator, and was like, yo, 57 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: they which a can ill that Drake for a second 58 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: YG down the street shooting the video. He shot them out, 59 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: I love to get you to come down there, played 60 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: them a song he heard shot say, literally walked down there, 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: and that became a master campo in the video. And 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: I was actually y G and Drake's actual first introtellution. 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: So just understanding your value and understand how the bridge 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: gaps and bring people together. Um, that's always been a 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: strong suit for me. Um, being a R. I really 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: didn't know that what I was doing was growing into 67 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: becoming the man are I thought I was before? Before 68 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: you get too deep in this because you said something 69 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: because you know you, like they're saying you were just 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: with You could have been a guy just they're just 71 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: hustling the women. You could have been a guy that 72 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: just wanted the party, could have been a guy that 73 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: just wanted to drinks. But because some guys were there 74 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: just for that and you know that. But correct, why 75 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: did you see through all that? What? What vision did 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: you have push your row to say, you know something, 77 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: I see an opportunity. What's it? The opportunity for yourself 78 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: or an opportunity to make the y G brand better. Honestly, 79 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: it started off just as opportunity to show my value 80 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: in making the brand better. Um, it wasn't based on self. 81 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: It was very selfless because a lot of stuff that 82 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I did early on, even to the they are very selfless. Um. 83 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: But he was my friend and he had an opportunity 84 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: to do something different and make it out. So it 85 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: was like, you can either be that guy helping the 86 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: guy make it out, or you can be that guy 87 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: that just next to him not doing anything because really 88 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: holding him down. And that's never been my mom, he said. 89 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: I've always try to bring something to the table in 90 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: any situation that I'm in, So I would say it 91 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: went from that and just trying things out and not 92 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: trying to be the guy who just they're saying yes 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: to everything. We'll be right back with more Money Making 94 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money 95 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. In this society have 96 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: talked to push your Rod uh former executive and our 97 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: executive at the Urban Music at Interscope. At the age 98 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: of twenty one, he made a decision in his life. 99 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: This is what he wanted to do, produced records, develop 100 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: artists and become a voice in the hip hop industry. 101 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: And he's doing that very well, doing the very very well, 102 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: so much that he has his own recording studio called 103 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: Creative Sound Recording, where very notable artists can record and 104 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: pursue doing independent productions and also basically control their their 105 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: music and their sound as well us they're they're writing 106 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: now here's the question that I have to ask you 107 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: because you're deep in the hip hop industry here. You know, 108 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: take Off recently passed away, but he's just one of 109 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: many that have been fall victims to violence or some 110 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: type of violence in the hip hop industry. In two 111 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: it's becoming to a point that when it happens, it's 112 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: all the first you were shocked, and in the early 113 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: part of the first quarter, we were shocked, and when 114 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: it happened to take Off, we were saddened. But every 115 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: time it happens, we're I believe that the community is 116 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: starting to become numb and go. You know they're silly, 117 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: or they're violent, or you know they're gonna kill off 118 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: each other, you know, black on black violence. When you 119 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: hear statements like that, either coming from me or coming 120 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: from the social media or coming from the news platforms 121 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: that you're familiar with, how do you take this push 122 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: your rod? I mean I would start off by saying 123 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: redicin piece of take Off. UM met him numerous of times. 124 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: He was always good to me and my people, to 125 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: the whole Mego family. Offset was, Oh, it's always a 126 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: great person. When you see him, Quabo always arms open 127 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: very friendly, you know. So it's definitely sad to see 128 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: something like that happened to such an amazing group of 129 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: people who've helped change in carves where hip hop is today. Um, 130 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: but it's it's it's sad, um, ask somebody in hip hop. 131 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: It's sad, you know, because the goal when you come 132 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: from the streets to goal is to do what you're 133 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: to do to make it out, but never forget where 134 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: you come from. And it seems like a lot of 135 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: times people are being victimized for for not forgetting where 136 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: they come from. Because you got two types of artists. 137 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: You have the artists who makes it out the hood 138 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: and forgets about the hood, and then you have the 139 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: artists who makes it out the hood become back to 140 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: the hood, trying to get their friends out the hood, 141 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: trying to get their homies out there, trying to show 142 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: that I come from this so the next person can 143 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: come from this. UM. So it's it's very it's very, 144 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: very very difficult, and because it seems like that hip 145 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: hop has a target on his back. But I don't 146 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: think that it's right that how the media tries to 147 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: downsize it or downplay and just thinks like oh, these 148 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: are just a bunch of ignorant people doing ignorant things. 149 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: Like that's never the circumstances because even like how um 150 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: when the take off situation, when like we were talking 151 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: about earlier, when it first happened, they tried to make 152 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: it seem like he was shooting dice and he was 153 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: doing this and he was doing that without even trying 154 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: to figure out the real story. And then when the 155 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: real story comes out that he was just in his 156 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: advice and that the media never even corrected that. So 157 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, it is a lot of senseless crimes happening, 158 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: but you know it's the it's also the way the 159 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: media portrays it and portrays us, you know, where we 160 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: never get the hot the correct highlight when media is 161 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: talking about anything for about us, either positive or negative, 162 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, they look for the clickbait first and then 163 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: like so I feel like it's a it's a lot 164 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: of both. It's all from the street level, it's it's 165 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: on us to do better in our community. But I 166 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: feel like on mainstream media level, it's up to them 167 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: to find out the real details before they try to 168 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: be the first person with the school to try to 169 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: tell a story when the story is inaccurate, and it's like, 170 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: you wonder why after they tell these inaccurate stories they 171 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: never come to correct them. And that's that's much more 172 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: And it's that part, how much more damage that does 173 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: for our community? Absolutely, that's the sad part. I'm speaking 174 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: to push you, Rod, the talented producer, executive, uh and 175 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: the independent thinker. Now the y G new album you 176 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: Know I Got Issues? You know I that I got 177 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: issues is a statement that is very relatable because we 178 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: all have issues. Push you and do publicly say I 179 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: got issues. Let me know, he's throwing down and talking 180 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: about a lot of things. Where did the title come from? 181 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: And uh, what was the direction of this particular album? Um, 182 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: the title came from honesty. Um. Why you know, it's 183 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: been crazy because like with COVID and everything, even though 184 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the world or the rest of the 185 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: US was kind of open here on the West Coast, 186 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: we were licked down for the whole two years, right 187 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: Like you know, you see people in Atlanta and having 188 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: fun out the party and in Miami doing whatever, in 189 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: Houston doing ever, in l A. It wasn't happening. So 190 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: during that time period we were really just locked down 191 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: and you get to take yourself out of it and 192 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: sit back and see what's going on for a while, 193 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: because we weren't doing shows, we weren't traveling like that. 194 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: You know, the Tory market is closed, so it's like 195 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: you're really just seeping in and seeing a lot of 196 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: things that's going on. And why you felt like it 197 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: was time for him to be more vulnerable on this album. UM, 198 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: and just talk about what he went through and with 199 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: the pandemic did to him and his mentor and things 200 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: like that. UM and said a lot of friendships that 201 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: that happened. Um, I'll try to take that part back. UM, 202 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: I would just say, why you tried his best to 203 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: be as honest as possible on this album and give 204 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: people deeper insight to his life. If there's things you 205 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: want to know about out, if there's questions you had, 206 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: I do feel like he made sure he answered them 207 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: all on this album. Well, you know, the thing about 208 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: it is that his work has always been tied to 209 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: be and a authentic, you know, relatable, uh, a sense 210 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: of honesty, you know, especially in that l A market, 211 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, where it's really interesting because in l A 212 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: you gotta have a car today around. This is not 213 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: like the New York or the East Coast side, where 214 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: you can subway and the metro system is how you 215 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: can actually live your life and get around. But when 216 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: you in a city where the four five at ten 217 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: o'clock at night looks like it's it's prime time parking 218 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: at five o'clock on a work day, use a different city. 219 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: You're in a different environment. But also I live in 220 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: the l A fifteen years, so very familiar with that 221 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: whole culture and that whole breakdown where certain people could 222 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: live in the community and never leave the community, so 223 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: they really don't know their experiences. But I always felt 224 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: that his music allow for to see the world outside 225 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: of where they're at. I was in percent and important 226 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: thousand percent um I towards the world because of music. 227 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: I probably before music. I've been to Indiana because the family. 228 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: I went to Texas because of family, but I never 229 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: saw anywhere else because of music. I've been to Africa, 230 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: I've been to Australia, I've been to Ceiling, I've literally 231 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: I've been to the UK. I've traveled the world just 232 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: off of music and the belief in the love in 233 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: hip hop, so and it's crazy because music opened my 234 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: mind to the rest of the world. But then seeing 235 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: the rest of the world opened my mind to let 236 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: me know that the world is really bigger than l A. 237 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: Because growing up, you know, being in l A and 238 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: being from Hollywood, you know, everybody want to come here. 239 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: Everybody comes here, they get that check, they sell that, 240 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: they get get that first platinum album, that first crazy movie. 241 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: The first thing they do is try to buy home 242 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: in l A. So you never worried or think about 243 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: leaving l A because this is where everybody comes to. 244 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: But then when you're blessed enough to see the world 245 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: and travel because of music, and you go to places 246 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: like Japan when they don't speak English but they can 247 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: wrap a whole y G album for word is amazing 248 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: and it just shows you how music connects people no 249 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: matter what, because like literally, you can try to have 250 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: a conversation with somebody and they can't say anything else 251 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: but what's close and YG, But soon as the song 252 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: come on, they can rapid word for word. Seeing things 253 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: like that, it just it opened my mind up. I 254 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: did that, look, I did you guys here? Just seeing 255 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: that because I know that exists. I've been fortunate your 256 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: travelers were all when represented Steve Harvey and and you 257 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: realize that our culture, especially people of color African Americas, 258 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: we are such a powerful influences. Even though racism in 259 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: the State of America tends to deny us our true history, 260 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: our true cultural connection, and our value. It seems to 261 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: be downplayed a lot in America, but worldwide it's it's 262 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: like gold. It's like it's like you perceived as being special, 263 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: you perceived as wanting to be a part of that. 264 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: You know. It's like it's like seeing a big old sandwich. 265 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: You you're trying to get to the sandwich, and the 266 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: sandwich just happens to be us because people want to 267 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: consume us. And to hear people who don't even know 268 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: they're the English language doing a rap song that's by 269 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: y G. Something you produced that had to be special 270 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: and it had to be mind blowing. You know. My 271 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: first time going to Japan, I want to say, it 272 00:15:54,160 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: was like two thousand and twelve, and I promise you now, 273 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm from Los Angeles. I'm used to seeing like the 274 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: takeovers and seeing low riders being outside. They didn't think 275 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: like that. I've seen that my whole life. But it 276 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: was amazing to me to be in Japan and seeing 277 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: that happened. See a hundred low Riders in Japan, all 278 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: candy painted sitting on dating's. People didn't switches rams, I 279 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: mean not rams because we didn't have the rams at 280 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: the time. They had on raiders jerseys, oh forty nine 281 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: in their jerseys, dicky pants, and they did like West Coast, 282 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: West Coast. Like it was like wow. And then you 283 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: see certain people and then like certain people say their 284 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: favorite artist is Snoop Dog YG and Nipsey Hustle was like, 285 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: it's amazing, like to just to know that something that 286 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: started in YG's bedroom literally we started making me. He 287 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: turned his bedroom into a studio and that's when we started, 288 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: when we were creating music that we created just read 289 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: up in his bedroom that he swapped out for a studio. 290 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: And then see and being a part of music that's 291 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: made in the bedroom played in Japan with thousands of 292 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: people who singing it word for word. It is amazing 293 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: and it just shows you, like the world is so 294 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: much bigger, and it just made me want to be 295 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: able to connect to so many different artists because to 296 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: see that and do that and be part of that 297 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: experience over and over, which really is the professional Homie 298 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: series that we talked about your view, your role and 299 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: how this is God and elevated your career through the 300 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: rap world. How do you share that with individuals and 301 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: what do they get out of it? Um? I mean 302 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: being a professional homie to me is like another word 303 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: for manager. Manager is a little more formal. You know, 304 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: when I was young, I'm still I still consider myself young, 305 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: but at the age of twenty, you didn't want to 306 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: be called a manager. It seemed like a managers like 307 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: forty at the time. So it was like, yeah, I'm 308 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: the homie who handles the business, so the professional homie UM. 309 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: And And I tell people all the time like if 310 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: if you just take that and you break that down, um, 311 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: and you find an artists who you believe in and 312 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: you really not just help them on the business and 313 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: on the music side, would actually be a good friends 314 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: for them and help and make sure that they're making 315 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: better life decisions and making the best choice for the future. 316 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: That's what I consider being a professional homie is it's 317 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: not just being the manager, but being also being that 318 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: best friend for you at the same time, We'll be 319 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. 320 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: Now let's reach turned to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with 321 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. When you get into that manager of that 322 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: professional homie world, people don't know how many hats you 323 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: gotta have our own pushing and come on there and 324 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: it can wear you out too, but you know that's 325 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: part of the conversation. You gotta be come on, come on, 326 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: push you come and push. You tell him now you 327 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: know you dr Phil, your old brah. You know you're 328 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: you know doctor you you gotta deal with mental health issue, 329 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: motivational issues, because in this business is depression sets in 330 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: because social media trolls. It's so many levels of being 331 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: a professional homie. It's just that people want to just 332 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: throw that hat on and think they're just you know, 333 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: you're just gonna It's a ball of move. It's a 334 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: ball of move with a lot of titles. It's a 335 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: ball of move with a lot of responsibilities. And if 336 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: you're not willing to do that, just stand on the 337 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: sideline and just uh and and just be envious to 338 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: the people who do do it. And that's why I 339 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: respect what you're talking about because I've lived a life 340 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: at that high profile manager. It's still living that life, 341 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: and my man, the bigger that talent gets the country, 342 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: you go into responsibilities, the brand protection. It's crazy and 343 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: and and then you got this whole label that you created. 344 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: What you're doing independent recording that is even a different level. 345 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: But how did you think and why did you think 346 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: that was important for creative sound recording studio to exist? 347 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean for me, I was at Interscope for almost 348 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: eight years UM. But during that process, I've gained so 349 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: many friends throughout the music industry. There's been artists who 350 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: I've tried to sign and weren't able to sign, but 351 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: still make sure I hold that friendship because like me, 352 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: I believe I'm not going to sign an artist if 353 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't genuinely with you as a person, if I 354 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: don't want to hang out with you, if I don't 355 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: want to just talk to you about other things other 356 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: than use it, because it's it's a real connection in 357 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: a real bond when you're somebody's in our So with 358 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: every artist who I've signed or even met with or 359 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: tried to sign, I established that friendship first. Because that 360 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: friendship is so much to me, and it's the most 361 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: valuable thing. Um So, a lot of artists who I'm 362 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: met over the years, they come and use my studio. 363 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: A lot of people I tried to sign over the years, 364 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: they come to use my studio. I have tried to 365 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: sign artists and it didn't work. But taking that picture 366 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: and being in that right moment with me help them 367 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: get bigger back somewhere else, you know. Um So, we're 368 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: just about taking things like that and not taking them 369 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: for granted and trying to have a safe haven in 370 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: a place for artis to come in Los Angeles to 371 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: create and not at the set and not just create 372 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: by themselves, but no, they're in a comfortable place where 373 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: they can maybe meet another rapper they never met before 374 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: they were a fan of and maybe do a feature 375 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: or do this, or do this. And just having that 376 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: safe place in l A that my friends can come 377 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: and make friends. Well, I'm speaking to push a Rob. 378 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: He is a I'm old school, so I'm a manager, 379 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, he knew school, so here a professional HOMEI 380 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: But either way, the responsibilities of taking on people's lives 381 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: and trust, that's that's a key word right there. Trust 382 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: because we are allowing you to say, hey, man, I 383 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: believe that you're the one that can take me to 384 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: the next step. Because that's all the conversations about taking 385 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: them to the next step, but also protecting them as 386 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: they go along and being there. You know what I'm saying, 387 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: Pushing it's really it's really a job, man. And like 388 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: I said, I respect the position that you put yourself in. 389 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: I respect the position that people understand that, especially the 390 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: day with social media. You know, social media is a 391 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: is a curse and a blessing. Sometimes it's more of 392 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: a curse. Sometimes before it becomes a blessing, you you fight, 393 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: especially if you don't, if you don't know how to 394 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: deal with it the correct way. Social media can literally 395 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: be one post can be the end of everything. And 396 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: it's it's so crazy to me, and we see it 397 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: every day. Somebody can work their whole life to get 398 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: to a certain place and literally one post or one 399 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: really post or one like can change that will change 400 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: the perception of you to the world. And that's very scary. 401 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: And but what it is and scary is that at 402 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: twenty one years of age, he decided he wanted to 403 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: do this for a living. At Urban Music at Interscope Records. 404 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: Twenty one. Eight years later, he's the vice president of 405 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: A and R of Urban Music and Interscope Records. That's 406 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: a guy with a vision. That's a guy with a plan. 407 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: That's a guy that you know understands hard work. I 408 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: would tell this push. I always tell people that have 409 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: twenty four hours in a day, learn to take advantage 410 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: of each hour. And you've seem to be a person 411 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: who understands that principle. But more important, if you have 412 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: to give somebody advice who's listening to the show or 413 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: watching this show about the industry that you have, you know, 414 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: it's a journey. I would tell people. It's like you're young. 415 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: I always say, because you know you gotta get the forty, 416 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: you gotta get the fifty. I'm sixty four now, and 417 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: so I still want to get the seven. I still 418 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: want to get the eighty. But I know when I 419 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: was thirty and forty. And then when you start hitting 420 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: success like you're hitting it, you gotta maintain. You can't 421 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: go backward. You gotta maintain. And that's another level of 422 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: pressure that you have to deal with. So the bessings 423 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: of dealing with that give my artists a little advice pusher. 424 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: Um I know they I know they say you're you're 425 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: not you know, Um I would I say this, Um, 426 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: You're only as good as your last move. That's what 427 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: they like to say. But for me, it's about calculating 428 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: your steps so that every move counts. Like you don't. 429 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: I believe that if you know how to do ten things, 430 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: you don't have to show them all at once, show 431 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: the world step by step, piece by piece. People will 432 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: respect you more once you get to ten. But if 433 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: you show them all tend up front of like okay 434 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: with number eleven, that's this tricky that's the trickiest part 435 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: in this game, is like you don't show all your 436 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: fingers too early, but always just work as hard as 437 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: you can. And for that young guy or young girl 438 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: that's out there who's envisioned them want to be in 439 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: there an r I would say the main thing is 440 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: find an artist who you truly believe in, not just 441 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: the hype or they had a song, or you like 442 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: the way they dress. Find an artist that you truly 443 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: believe in, and figure out how to help uplift that artist, 444 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: how to get that artist from A to B and 445 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: from beat to see you can get that artist from 446 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: A to H. You can get that artist from A 447 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: to Z. And it's just about believing in yourself and 448 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: believing in the steps that you're taking to get that 449 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: artist to the next level and not taking note for 450 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: ananswing because a lot of times, a lot of people 451 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: tell me, you know, a lot of people have told 452 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: me know over the years, especially because of where I 453 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: came from my background, and it's like, Okay, maybe this 454 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: person might tell you know, but how can you get 455 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: to the yes? And it's just never giving up until 456 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: you get to that yes. Like you know, I got 457 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: this format called Minutes of Inspiration. Well, I just pulled 458 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: parts of my interviews and syndicated nationally. You've given me 459 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: a boy six or seven pushing rod minutes of inspiration, 460 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: you know. And because those nuggets, man, like you said, 461 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: from A to age to a to z, you know, 462 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: you you get past that letter, you know, just because 463 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: you've got ten great things, don't show all ten because 464 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: guess what they're gonna be asking a number level. They're 465 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: gonna ask for it, you know. And that's that's what 466 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: you're called floshy. That's what flosohy is filosophy is showing 467 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: your hand. You know, just try just trying not to. 468 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: Just don't oversell yourself because I've saw so many people 469 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: with great potential always tell themselves out the gate and 470 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: it's like you got to climb up all those steps 471 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: you do just put in front of you, versus just 472 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: going in there and doing a job and showing it right, 473 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: or trying to jump from the first to to the 474 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: top step and twist you and then you gotta yeah, 475 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's that's gone. That's right. 476 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: I love it, man, Hey put you. I know this 477 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: the first time I interviewed you. Man, don't be a stranger, brother, 478 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: because we already talked. We always talked about thirty minutes. 479 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I don't feel like that. Man. 480 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: We've just been talking to having the conversation and dropping 481 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: these nuggets. But if people say, man, I heard somebody 482 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: mentioning your name and you dropping some nuggets on this 483 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: thing called menat and inspiration, that's ra Sean McDonald brother 484 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: letting the world know about pushing rod. Okay, I appreciate you. 485 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, hey man, thank you for 486 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: coming on money making conversation about because you truly are 487 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: a blessing and pushing appreciate you. Thank you, brother, you 488 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: have a blessed one. Do you talk to alright