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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money than take all the time we

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<v Speaker 1>are at all things R and D ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jay Valentine and this hill is the R and

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<v Speaker 2>B Money podcasting Today.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he ain't ratchet, but he brings all the

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<v Speaker 1>rachets outside, you know. But you know he's a church

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<v Speaker 1>boy at heart. Amen, But.

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<v Speaker 2>He is gonna make you spend that money like a savage.

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<v Speaker 2>You might go thirty for thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>You better not miss because he don't miss. Fresh from

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<v Speaker 1>can see that, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I have on my San Francisco forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>Ers jersey because in real life he's my football op.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, but I love him because he's my brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister J White did it the winning jay. They got four,

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<v Speaker 1>we got five. I mean, but y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Five is more like Nintendo five. It's like it's like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Tari You see me still dancing. It's like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, y'all five don't got graphics.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's more like I hear you. It's more like it's

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<v Speaker 4>like two bits, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? Those rings are though, dusty right now

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<v Speaker 1>forever they are forever, but whatever, they're so old that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody know where they are. Though. It's it's like rings this.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you how he's trying to play the young

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<v Speaker 2>nigga role. Like you didn't see all our super same

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<v Speaker 2>way I did. I really, I mean this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you probably just wasn't watch it because you was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen if the Chiefs ain't playing, I ain't watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 3>But but I want to say that the.

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<v Speaker 4>Chiefs, you know, now, listen, shout out to the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 4>the best team in the recent years, right you. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>for a fact, I got a couple of championship you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for a fact, y'all, y'all gave us too.

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<v Speaker 3>We gave y'all in the fourth quarter. We definitely gave y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>One the other way, yeah yeah, yeah, but one for

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<v Speaker 1>sure we gave y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that jersey actually makes me happy though I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna lie. It reminds me of.

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<v Speaker 1>The greatest receiver of all time. It is, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It is just about greatness, and that when I see

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<v Speaker 4>that jersey, I think great and I think Chiefs together.

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<v Speaker 1>Greatness. He never played for y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine the rice like I could see if I were

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<v Speaker 2>award in Montana because I got that. Yeah, I see

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<v Speaker 2>if I the ward that I didn't. Brother, I purposely

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<v Speaker 2>didn't too, because I'm like, oh, because he's gonna try

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<v Speaker 2>to claim we were gonna we're not sharing this.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Jerry Man. Listen, bro, Rice to Ronnie. One

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<v Speaker 4>thing we share, though, is that that color though, well

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<v Speaker 4>we do share it s that and and you know

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<v Speaker 4>y'all got five rings with with beepers and pages on it,

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<v Speaker 4>and and and we got flat screens with I mean

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<v Speaker 4>our rings got blue tooth on there. They probably got

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<v Speaker 4>a speaker on the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>And hey, you look like a nigga that way the

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<v Speaker 1>bluetooth ear to walk around. That's you shoot, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>not what's going on? Sweet baby? Hey, honestly, man first

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<v Speaker 1>came out, I had them, Hey, man put that on? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hey put that up? Hey. First of all, unc is

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<v Speaker 1>in unks? Is in unks? With money? Are in oh facts? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ship Miami as hey, unks are in thought not but

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<v Speaker 1>straight up though, because like the guys were a little

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<v Speaker 1>pepper and the beard and some paper in their pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not do this, bro, Yeah, listen, paper and pepper, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>listen they go together.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, that's pepper, but that's some with some good. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>broken ain't getting what he thinks he supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you. I've seen brokenk out there. He ain't

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<v Speaker 1>getting with good. He ain't getting what the people want.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen broken.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I've been broken.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you. It's a little different when you was broke.

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<v Speaker 2>So he he he, I as you just said it.

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<v Speaker 4>Paper and pepper, Hey, but you know I ain't really

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of pepper though you I mean a

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<v Speaker 4>little soft. Yeah, so you got but you got a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of paper and let's get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on, dog, you.

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<v Speaker 4>See you see the same way you you.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't a dolt write too much? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I used to, but I still got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I got in. You got a little pin,

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<v Speaker 1>I see it. Don't play with me like that, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>can't you shout a little ronnie? Hey? Running Look at this? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>sharlot ronnie, do you see this? Shout out my dog,

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<v Speaker 1>b k shout talent. This was my niggas man. Do

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<v Speaker 1>y'all see this? Go to the wine Dock County side

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<v Speaker 1>shout up my figure. Earl wasse shot my figger Joe Man. Listen, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really with it. Don't don't and don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget you now my name?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on now what I won't even met you now

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<v Speaker 2>in passing, So you know, I'm shouting out the people

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. I met you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>was very sweet, very sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm shouting on my actual homiest Earl Washston took me

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<v Speaker 2>to the barbershop. Niggas had on two three x tall

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<v Speaker 2>red teas. Wait you, I said, Oh, I see what

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<v Speaker 2>time it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you go to go Chicken Go?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we went there though, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we went there. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we went. Yeah, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>we went. So we're gonna start for people who don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm doing this for him, for the Kansas and

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<v Speaker 2>the camp for the Missouri and the Kansas side. So

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to I want you to tell us

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<v Speaker 2>before we even kick this off. Best barbecue for me,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Sacks not. I know everybody say Gates. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I asked. That's why I asked, Jackson. I know that's

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<v Speaker 2>your thing out.

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<v Speaker 1>There, Gates. Please, it's legendary.

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<v Speaker 4>It's legendary, and please back home. Don't The rib tips

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<v Speaker 4>are amazing, They're delicious. But Jack Stacks, okay, Jack Jackson,

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<v Speaker 4>when I was eating heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, because you know, we on the different.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on the health tip now now when I'm on

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<v Speaker 4>some healthy viaes now. But when I was going crazy,

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<v Speaker 4>Jack Sax got my.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother has the You go to his sessions the finest

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<v Speaker 2>of the fruits to find it to the fruits.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, so what's this one. I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>this fruit before that. That is a Bulgarian cherry. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's the apple from the Bai.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>This water got shipped in from Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nigga rich man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's go back to the time when you wasn't rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to Kansas City. That was last year,

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<v Speaker 2>now I start, come on, come on, come on, because

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<v Speaker 2>Bodak Yellow came out about nine years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've been rich it's been that long. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've been making his every year ever since. So

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<v Speaker 2>but take me back to KC. Man, come on, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know little j White.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go further back in Kansas City. Let's let's let

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<v Speaker 4>me hit you with this. I was born in Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga, you ain't from k C. It is a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a lie. It's not a lie. It's a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Kanye from Chicago? I don't know he was, but

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<v Speaker 1>now I do know that White is from Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 4>I was born in Arkansas. I was born in Arkansas

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<v Speaker 4>apartment your right, all right, it's a population of maybe

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<v Speaker 4>ten eleven thousand people, right, Okay, But at two years old,

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<v Speaker 4>two years old, we moved to Kansas.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where I was born. Where he's where he

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<v Speaker 1>was born. I was born in that San Francisco man.

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<v Speaker 1>You was born there? Yeah, I was born there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did. But as a two year old. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so now you too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm now I'm in Levenworth, Kansas.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the prison city.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a you know, you know we're we're still

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<v Speaker 4>in the metroplexus of Juanda, you know we still I'm

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<v Speaker 4>twelve minutes away, okay, and from from there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I grew up church. So you grew up in Levenworth, Levenworth,

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<v Speaker 1>Man Levenworth.

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<v Speaker 4>Did your people's work at the prison or something? Because

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<v Speaker 4>that's all I do at the prison. You mean work

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<v Speaker 4>at it or what's in it? Okay, all right, when

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<v Speaker 4>you're in there, you gotta work there. It was so

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<v Speaker 4>they did work then, and my mama was a part

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<v Speaker 4>of that. Okay, yeah one was. She was definitely a worker,

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<v Speaker 4>but she wasn't the one that clocked in. She stayed there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>my mama was always in and out out of the prisons.

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<v Speaker 1>But is that what took y'all?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, what what what took us there was my

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<v Speaker 4>cousin had a really good job out there, and she

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<v Speaker 4>wanted her little family that she loved to come out there.

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<v Speaker 4>So she picked who she loved.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like, y'all need to come here. She migrated.

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<v Speaker 4>She pretty much forced everybody to come there because my

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<v Speaker 4>my father was Saint Louis and whatnot. And we happened

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<v Speaker 4>to be in Arkansas for a minute, okay, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we just we ended up there. So all I knew

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<v Speaker 4>was Kansas. But then they you know, I knew I

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<v Speaker 4>was from Arkansas because we will always go back for

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<v Speaker 4>like a reunion and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh, so it wasn't like a place that you

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<v Speaker 2>just were born that you didn't go back to you still, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas was still a part of your childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Yah yeah, yeah, yea yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And until I got old enough to not go back

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<v Speaker 4>because that Yeah, man, I had some of the most

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<v Speaker 4>traumatic stories and just memories there just going there. I've

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<v Speaker 4>never really liked being there, if you want to be honest,

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<v Speaker 4>I've never liked going back home, like to where I'm

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<v Speaker 4>originally originally from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But you know that's why I always say Kansas

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<v Speaker 4>is home for me, because that's why I literally that's

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<v Speaker 4>all I You know, I grew up there. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>all my friends, all my history, all my happiness, even

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<v Speaker 4>ups and downs, is in Kansas. But Arkansas was just

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<v Speaker 4>total downs the whole time it went. Whenever I was there,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just down. The shout out to your people's

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<v Speaker 4>man forgetting you there, see Kansas, Yeah, man, and Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But it for me and everybody knows that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're in church every day? Are you already playing

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<v Speaker 2>in church?

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<v Speaker 1>As a kid?

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<v Speaker 3>At eleven years old, I started playing drum?

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<v Speaker 1>Who identified your island in church? Honestly? Bro? Or did

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<v Speaker 1>you you want them? Kids? It just snuck on one

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<v Speaker 1>of the uh, the instruments.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really nobody man like I literally my my

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<v Speaker 4>my grandma, rest in peace to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>We will always go to singing programs all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's the singing program? So you never y'a, don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it out here? A singing program grew up in church. Nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't know. I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>You probably you're black man. You probably knew that. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know me for a minute. Come on, but church,

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<v Speaker 4>don't come on that. Come on, if I sing, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Little a lot of them mine. I mean, everybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay. But boom, well that's in movies and ship,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't it. I ain't never heard of the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, that's a negro.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that at church. That's a negro. Speare Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go ahead now now now hold on what a

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<v Speaker 1>quesson again? Because got so I started thinking to the Lord, No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what you say again? I'm sorry? I said, who identified

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<v Speaker 1>my talent there? And you said nobody?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, so okay, so quartet singing is pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>was going to Yeah, I was going to yeah, we

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<v Speaker 4>was going to see quartet singing. And my grandmother was

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<v Speaker 4>just a fan of that, you know, like the Canton

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<v Speaker 4>Spirituals and they hummingbirds and whoever else, and she would

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<v Speaker 4>just try to go Haley Singers. See now I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know that ain't going on my head, but yeah, that's Josy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's is that quartet singing. Yeah he was a court

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Jojo was.

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<v Speaker 4>I never knew that, but from what I was, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's in North Carolina, right, yeah, okay, so yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>Well my grandmother would go to those church.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Cedric yeah he said, little Cedric and Haley Singers.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's little Cedric Casey? Oh snack ah. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>me and telling you some church nig I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look at me, bro I'm now teaching church.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, wealthy, Yeah, I didn't know. He grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in it. You know. I didn't grow up in church.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, but my grandmother that was very selective

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<v Speaker 4>on who listened to and what I was allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>To erik too.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mighty Clouds is Joy is at Mighty Claus and

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<v Speaker 2>joy for sure? Okay, yeah, all that man.

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<v Speaker 4>So we would have to go to church because my

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<v Speaker 4>grandmother cooked in the morning and she would cook for

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<v Speaker 4>different services and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>She would cook you mean she cooked for the whole church, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Whole church, but not but but just for like in

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<v Speaker 4>the early morning to like around like noon, right, I

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<v Speaker 4>would get a church at six am every Sunday. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like school, man, it was like the as a kids,

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<v Speaker 4>like the word.

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<v Speaker 1>The only day you had off was Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Day as you going to school Saturday, Friday, Saturday is

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<v Speaker 2>my only day off. And then Sunday is Sunday, all church, Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday church Monday after school, Thursday Friday. That's a repeat,

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<v Speaker 2>repeat now and sometimes if it's a second program on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday and Saturday.

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<v Speaker 4>Church seven days a week. And I would I love

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<v Speaker 4>the drummer. The drummer I thought was the coolest guy.

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<v Speaker 4>The lived as he can and he get all the girls.

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<v Speaker 2>So get a drummer, son. That's what they say. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what they say. You never hey, bro, I

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<v Speaker 2>never heard say I've never heard.

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<v Speaker 1>I never heard that term as a drummer. Get a drummer.

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<v Speaker 1>Some I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody love the drummer. Everybody little drummer and the drummers

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<v Speaker 4>cool Jay White.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna kill you in the comments, Bro, Why that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know these things. You have the drummers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, bro, whatever, you know what, it's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>give the drummers in church. I never play outside the

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<v Speaker 1>term music. I never.

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<v Speaker 3>I was never a drummer that wasn't in church.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you didn't went to the you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't come from the freaking church. I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I mean I don't call the church that

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<v Speaker 4>get down. I mean, my church is pretty just man.

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<v Speaker 4>Look I grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>Look I thought, don't walk in my traps. Bro, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is that what you know? The drummers some ray? Where

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear that at? I'm curious, seriously, what's your

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<v Speaker 1>what's you literally a turn? Bro? Really yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got we we got here no music. Give

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<v Speaker 1>the drummers to the drummers. So y'all heard them? Can

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<v Speaker 1>talk back the drummer song.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I still play a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You trying to figure out what the geese out. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't mind, you get to take a game back,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, bro? Do anybody like drummers? Hey? Bro, j

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<v Speaker 1>White did it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's man TikTok oh my god, bro, snapchat all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just joking. By the way, you're going to church

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<v Speaker 1>seven takes a week. Man, you're playing what nothing?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not. I'm really just watching the musicians. So

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<v Speaker 4>my grandmother will alive and you gonna sit by the

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<v Speaker 4>musicians all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But you rock with the drummer.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, man, the drummer was the one man come

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<v Speaker 4>in and he he looked fly, he fresh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he got his snare drum, he got his drumsticks with

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<v Speaker 4>and he's sitting there like, hey, man, what's up junebu hey,

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<v Speaker 4>what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Live? Was the drummer or well, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Just I'm just saying that he really there was a jumbug,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a drummer, I'm gonna say, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was it was it was competitive like the drummers

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<v Speaker 4>was like, man, I'm I'm I'm about to tear this coming.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would just see him there had a little

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<v Speaker 4>thing going on and whatnot. And each time I would

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<v Speaker 4>be a church in the morning on Sunday, it would

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<v Speaker 4>just be me and my little sister and my grandmother

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<v Speaker 4>and the pastor and that was Pastor Clay right and

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<v Speaker 4>reci peace to him as well, and it just be

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<v Speaker 4>us there while she's cooking. There's a piano on one

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<v Speaker 4>side of the church. There's drums on the other side

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<v Speaker 4>of the church. Every Sunday, I had nothing but free

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<v Speaker 4>time to practice, you know. So one time they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have a drummer at church, and they let me get

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<v Speaker 4>the drums and main service.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is the main service. That's like the eleven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like eleven o'clock, you know, like Neon, like eleven

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<v Speaker 4>Newman or not. Church's packed, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't nobody really care about the nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>That ain't really that was Sunday School.

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<v Speaker 4>It ain't cracking, No, that was yeah, it was still

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<v Speaker 4>when people were still coming in. Everybody come to see

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<v Speaker 4>the choir, the music, the pastors in Nobody the Sunday

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<v Speaker 4>School people still rolling in.

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<v Speaker 1>Right eleven o'clock, is it?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm there since six am? You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm there since six am. I'm the opener's opener. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean yeah, I mean, so they let me play the drums,

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<v Speaker 4>and the choir director was looking at me, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was off beat, I guess. But I still remember to

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<v Speaker 4>this day. I'm like, I guess I thought I was

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<v Speaker 4>on beat the whole time. Bram gonna lie. But the

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<v Speaker 4>moment that I found out that I had to just

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<v Speaker 4>be better was when and ladies, I love y'all so much,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think y'all are amazing. But he kept saying like,

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<v Speaker 4>and my grandma was like Joe Jackson kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>she she was embarrassed by man. Yeah, and she and

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<v Speaker 4>she's like five foot three, super wid like she still

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<v Speaker 4>she said with a fan look at me too. So

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<v Speaker 4>now as a as a eleven year old boy, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>breaking under pressure, right. The most embarrassing thing as I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just the horns in the background is playing and everything

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<v Speaker 4>is slow motion now and I'm not I'm hitting like

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<v Speaker 4>this now and it's getting slower and slower.

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<v Speaker 1>All I seen was a quad director turns slowly look around.

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<v Speaker 4>In the audience, and there was this girl by the

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<v Speaker 4>name of Cassandra, and she got up with her church

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<v Speaker 4>dress and her plats. The quad director pointing at me

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<v Speaker 4>and said, get up. That girl came and kicked my eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>She told the church down and she and she was

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<v Speaker 4>young too, and she was.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't about age, it wasn't about age. She just said,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't have the talent.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't have it yet I ain't have it. I

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<v Speaker 4>ain't have it. And that was like and I sat

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<v Speaker 4>in the corner just by the drums. I ain't want

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<v Speaker 4>to lift my head up no more. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, like that was.

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<v Speaker 2>And for you, this is everybody you know in life

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<v Speaker 2>watching you pretty much at this point because you're there

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<v Speaker 2>every day, all day, seven days a week.

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<v Speaker 1>And see me feel And then you had to go

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<v Speaker 1>back the next days.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, you know Black Church, man, Hey, well I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know about nobody. Look, I know Baptist Church.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey. They was letting you have it. Now what Man?

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, Yo, you got replaced by a girl.

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<v Speaker 4>You got replaced by a girl I got replaced by.

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<v Speaker 4>But she was, honestly at the time, dope she was.

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<v Speaker 4>She could sing, she could play drums, she was just musically. Yes, man,

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<v Speaker 4>shout out to you where where wherever you at, shout

0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.720
<v Speaker 4>out to you. But but yeah, man, that that that

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<v Speaker 4>right there made me be a different person.

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<v Speaker 2>So it put you in a lab. You start you

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<v Speaker 2>start really learning from that point on. I did, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I got the poss and pans.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>My my uncle was a drummer as well, and I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't really understand how to you know, make the I

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<v Speaker 4>guess like the drumsticks bounce, you know, just move properly.

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<v Speaker 4>My my uncle showed me one thing and when I

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.760
<v Speaker 4>did that, that was the light bulb that got me.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, hold on, dud now.

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<v Speaker 3>It took me a while to get back on drums

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<v Speaker 3>because they ain't trusted no more.

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<v Speaker 1>They I mean, she was there for anybody else, so

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<v Speaker 1>you could at least go practice.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I practice?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, So you mean as far as where they

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<v Speaker 1>put you in front of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Front of the yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would go home and I would get you

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<v Speaker 4>know whatever, I hanger pencil sticks or whatever. I would

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<v Speaker 4>get poss and pants, buckets, I don't care, and I

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<v Speaker 4>would go in my room and I would just practice

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<v Speaker 4>every single day every day. We was in the projects

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<v Speaker 4>every single day, every day, just learning rhythm, rhythm, rhythm, rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>And your grandmama was cool with you being in there

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<v Speaker 1>making all that. Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>My grandma said that I can be and do whatever

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<v Speaker 4>I want. She's incredible. She always pushing me me to

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<v Speaker 4>be great, always, regardless if she had a second grade

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<v Speaker 4>education or not. She always told me that I can

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<v Speaker 4>be and do whatever I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. And so that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>So she she understood, that's who raised me. She understood

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<v Speaker 4>what it took, you know who and what she she

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<v Speaker 4>don't care as long as her grandson wanted and he

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<v Speaker 4>gonna work for it, go get it. And that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it was. Yeah, man, yeah, man, rest in peace to

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<v Speaker 4>Johnny B.

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<v Speaker 1>White. Yeah wow, the real J. White? Wow? Yeah man?

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<v Speaker 1>So is that who you have your moniker is? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, No it worked out like that. No, Nah, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't like J.

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<v Speaker 1>White. I hate that name. I hated J.

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<v Speaker 4>Why bro, I hate back back and let's say going

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<v Speaker 4>up to two thousand, damn, why not change?

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<v Speaker 3>Like oh four, one of my.

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<v Speaker 4>Friends back in the day that it would call me

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<v Speaker 4>Anthony Jermaine White, my whole name.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like you calling my whole name like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then and then we all got that one.

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<v Speaker 4>We got that man, Anthony Jermaine White, I'm like god,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it became Jermaine White. And then my boys

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<v Speaker 4>when we was in the group, they start saying, man,

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<v Speaker 4>here here comes J.

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<v Speaker 1>White. I said, I'm calling that what the hell a J. White?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm calling that goofy ass name.

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not J. White. My name is Jermaine. I'm Jermaine White.

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<v Speaker 4>Say you say that? And then they said yeah, all right,

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.160
<v Speaker 4>j White. So anyway, and then after that, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, so this grow. Yeah. What were you

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:32.440
<v Speaker 1>doing in the group? Oh man?

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<v Speaker 4>I was I was the producer, and I thought I

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh man, bro, you were great. I really

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 4>thought back in the day that we was gonna go crazy, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Like our group name was called Freelance.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, freelance? How many members? At first? It was like

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<v Speaker 1>six six freelance? Yea. It was like, and what was

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<v Speaker 1>the freelance doing? Rapping?

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<v Speaker 4>Singing and playing instruments too? Are just rapping and singing dancing?

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<v Speaker 1>Six members? Yeah? Man? Yeah? Man? What word? What was

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<v Speaker 1>I doing? What was little Anthony Jermaine doing? At the time?

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<v Speaker 1>I was right there with him, singing or rapping both

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<v Speaker 1>you give them all up. I'm rapping the hooks, I'm dancing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, I was skinny too. Oh you know

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<v Speaker 1>what did I was skinny too?

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't know that I had him? I had him did?

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<v Speaker 4>I was real skinny. I can short clothes with my

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<v Speaker 4>boys all that. Yeah, man, we can shut closed the

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<v Speaker 4>same size. So how long did the group last man.

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<v Speaker 3>The group you know, it was young bro, you know

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<v Speaker 3>off in the home.

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<v Speaker 4>This a high school thing or they said, no, this

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<v Speaker 4>is after high schools, after high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, high school bro. I was in one group.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a singing group, and I can never stay

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<v Speaker 4>on key. Bro, Like there's like Anthony State.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Those brothers in Kansas and Kansas City can really sing, man,

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<v Speaker 2>They can sing like y'all got a different level of

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<v Speaker 2>singing R and B.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, that's real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, So I'm sure they were like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess he can. Maybe he could do beats or something,

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<v Speaker 2>because they everybody want to kick you out.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want to kick me out. But they kept

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<v Speaker 4>saying your note, you keep singing my note, you keep

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<v Speaker 4>singing my note. And I was like I would get

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<v Speaker 4>nervous because I could never stay on key.

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<v Speaker 1>You knew you was going to eventually sing that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew what was happening absolutely as soon as I started.

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<v Speaker 4>And the song that we wrote was called do what

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<v Speaker 4>you want To, and it was do what you want

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<v Speaker 4>to do, what you want to do, what you want

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<v Speaker 4>to do, what you want to?

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<v Speaker 3>That harmony part.

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<v Speaker 2>There, Oh yeah, it got tricky it got tricky, it

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<v Speaker 2>was done. Wasn't that great either, it was terrible, Like

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<v Speaker 2>oh that.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I was ain't doing nothing. Do what you want

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<v Speaker 4>to do? Don't do it again? Yo, No, but look

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<v Speaker 4>back then, I'm sorry to the writers. I'm sorry the writers.

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<v Speaker 1>What you mean, man? That was used? Wrote man?

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<v Speaker 4>We all wrote there together, do what you want to

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<v Speaker 4>to be about eight hours, so it took six man.

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<v Speaker 1>What no, Now now.

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<v Speaker 4>We're getting Look high school, I was in a group

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<v Speaker 4>of four people. After high school, bro yea, then you

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 4>went to the sixth bro I was always like the outcast,

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 4>man Like, I was cool in school. Everybody knew me

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 4>for drums and beat boxing and yeah, you know, goofy

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 4>whatever like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But after that, man, I was I was never the

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<v Speaker 3>popular kid.

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<v Speaker 4>I was never the the one that everybody, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought was gonna probably be anything. I was always

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<v Speaker 4>the one who would be cool with the ones who

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<v Speaker 4>was never you know, talk to you know, those are

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<v Speaker 4>like my type of friends, you know, and my sound.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a super well yeah I was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>geekish y's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah I was, you know, but uh, oh, man, I

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 4>don't know, bro. I I never got bullied, but I

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 4>was just never that kid.

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I was always overlooked, you know, so I would literally

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 4>I found people who was overlooked and we made a group.

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 4>That's that's what it was. And we was called Freelance. Well,

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 4>they had a group called Natural the Disaster, Natural Disaster.

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 4>Yes it was the Staff, but London and Saw it was.

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 4>It was an Asian and black kid, a Hawaiian and

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 4>black kid, and a straight Asian kid. It was the

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 4>It was that three, y'all.

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Thiggas was supposed to be Bruno Mars.

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 4>And then we had a Messican man, black Eyed, and

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 4>and two black kids, VG J Rock and J White,

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 4>and then it dwindled down to three.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you part of the three? Still? Yeah? No, you stayed.

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>You stayed. You're not with the group. I'm wondering music

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>right now. Everybody else is like, I'm done. Man. You

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>know how to see this, bro? It's hard, man. This

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>is not an easy business you, It's not an easy business.

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Us in group, I was.

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 2>My brothers though we were family, you know what I mean.

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 2>I've never been to a group that wasn't my brother.

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:23.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like literally my blood, you know what I mean.

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Other than they tried to put me in a group

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>when I think I was like thirteen or fourteen, when

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even I didn't want to sing no more.

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of going through my little stage or

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 2>whatever of rebellion against singing. And they tried to put

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 2>me in a group and that I went on one

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 2>trip and I was like, yeah, then he was done.

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 2>They tried to make us a band too, like playing. Yeah,

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>so I was going to be the lead singer of

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>a kid band.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, that doesn't work. No, I wouldn't. You don't think

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's why were weak?

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought, really to me, to me, but you can

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that you know the adults that were their

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>mindset of what, you know, what this was going to be.

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 2>You understand though too, though I was also I had

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>already had a record deal at ten and an album out.

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>So now I'm coming to this where you're like, oh, yeah,

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna develop.

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm not doing that, bro.

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I just and at that listen and at the time,

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I just wasn't in the mindset of being in a

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>group anyway. At this point, I'm hoping my whole life

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 2>has changed, you know what I mean, I'm back in

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 2>the hood. Back home because shit then went left. I

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want to sing no more, and I'm like, I

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 2>don't play instruments. So and here's the thing too, where

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 2>people have to realize in music, musicians and just singers

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 2>sometimes don't click. Musicians that sing, oh man, they'll click

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>with the other musicians, but guys who just sing usually

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 2>just kick it with niggas who sing. So put me

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>in a group where I'm the only singer, or the

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>band where I'm the only singer. I just it wasn't clicking.

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I was only there for a few days.

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>And he was by you.

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.239
<v Speaker 3>You like, man, you walked down, you said now.

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.959
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm out, come out, come out. Jake on.

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Everybody was cool too, but I was like, yeah, it's

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the same. It's not for me. It just wasn't. It

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't for me.

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>So you out of high school, I'm out of high school.

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>In the group, man, it's down to three guys.

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>It's done. It's done, three guys. Man.

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>At what point do you say to yourself, I gotta

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>get a job, man, I gotta do this music full time.

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Are you do you have a job while you're doing

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>this group? Yeah?

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Man, I kept a job in high school? Okay, you

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 4>always worked, yeah, yeah, I kept a man. I always

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 4>worked from yay man, cutting grass or whatever.

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't what's your what's been your worst job? First job?

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 4>Dang, bro, I ain't. I'm not gonna lie, bro. I've

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 4>made all my jobs fun.

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>You know. I can see that. I can see that

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>with you.

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, I ain't never had a job that.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Man, you know what.

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 4>I had one job, man, we was making cups, plastic cups.

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 4>It was what you're doing all day long, oh man,

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 4>all day man. I couldn't. I hate that job, bro,

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 4>what are you doing?

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>You just he's just like molding.

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 4>You just making cups and you're putting in a box.

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 4>The little cup is hot. You put in a box

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 4>hours on hours, cups, plastic.

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Cups, over and over and over, over and over.

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 4>I said, no, I did one week, said let me

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 4>do this one week. I need to check.

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>So the plastic cups job is the worst.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 4>That was the worst, the worst job ever because I

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 4>couldn't It was nothing creative in there. I just couldn't

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 4>even I couldn't walk around walking around.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>It was a station. It was one station, and I

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>had older kids saying, oh man, it's gonna be all good.

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Young blood. He had probably been there years.

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Man, he's definitely man. He was a team league.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>He was like, no, man, you can take these cups home.

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>You can, man what Bro, I'm young, Bro, I'm on

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>these cups. You could take them home, take them home

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and do what.

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Couch surfing? Bro, you can gota where to go at

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 3>that time.

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't nobody wants your plastic wants my plastic cups.

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Many letting me sleep on the couch, guys, Oh man,

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 2>about you're a fifty pack of cups.

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I slept on many couches, Bro, Like this couch right

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 4>here look good, nice and comfortable.

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Well all you found me a prop.

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 4>And you're still in Kansas City at this point though,

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 4>absol frequutely, and you're.

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Just kind of going from job to job, job to job, bro.

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Like I remember my uncle got me a job at

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 4>the golf course where he worked up and it was

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 4>it was go to work that day or go to

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 4>a show that day with my group. And I've always

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 4>been optimistic, like, man, I do this show.

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Man, we can change our lives. Man, you just never know.

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 4>And now this is a show I did a show,

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 4>of course. Okay, nobody showed up to the show. Nobody

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 4>showed up except for like a few of our friends,

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 4>first family, like maybe ten people that we know that

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 4>we came with.

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>And literally I got fired that day too.

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 4>But I never cared about getting fired though, because I

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 4>always knew that that one of my found destination. But

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 4>I got fired from from the job I got me

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 4>and I was washing dishes at the golf course and

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 4>sometimes helping them with the golf course stuff. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 4>but I always knew going into certain places, I'm not

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 4>gonna be there. Loan, and I've worked at Taco Bell Express.

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I was a janitor for a little while.

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Is Taco Bell Express as the one that's like mixed

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>with the other restaurant, it would be like two restaurants.

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, so back in the day, you know on posts,

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 4>you know fort like Port Levelmorth in the area, you

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 4>got Taco Bell Express his peace, so you got just

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 4>a smaller one. It's like a food court. It's a

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 4>very so okay, okay, yeah, it's about the biggest room.

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, you know what I mean. He worked at the

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Taco Bell.

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Killing it too, killing it every way I could. When

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.919
<v Speaker 4>I was broke, I killed it. Like when we was there, man,

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:20.479
<v Speaker 4>we we had this thing where you know, I'm grown

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 4>now y'all can't do.

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Nothing now, but what you do? Bro man?

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 4>Listen, bro it was broke man, So I came with

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 4>this plan. This plan was I said, we're still in Tacos,

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 4>bro Man, still you know, wasn't getting my just due.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 4>And now now now, now look, I didn't have no money.

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>It was only getting paid six forty five an hour

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>back then, come on, broke, and I'm young. I'm young,

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm what to do.

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 4>So we would purposely mess up orders and oh my bad.

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 4>We'll throw it away and I'll just take it to

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 4>the back to the break room. I'll ask you man,

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 4>what you want again. I just personally make it and

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 4>be like this ain't.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>What I ordered. Oh that ain't cool.

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Or on a break, will we'll we'll we'll all shift

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 4>and go. You know, well, well we'll be like it's

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 4>your trying to go on breaks, so you're paying for food.

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 4>We'll take out a dollar and we'll just gonna pay

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 4>a dollar and but we'll make like a million things though.

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Then we'll just take it. We'll just take it to

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 4>the bat and eat.

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.240
<v Speaker 1>That's how I you survived.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.800
<v Speaker 2>But listen, shout out to Taco Bell because they also

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 2>have a program that like feeds up and coming musicians.

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah. Also, I was just doing it early. You

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>was just doing early. Shout out to my brother Shane.

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>He's actually to see see of Taco Bill shright, it's

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>a brother.

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, most people don't know that. Shout out to that

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.359
<v Speaker 4>brother man, good dude.

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They literally have a program for like up and

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>coming artists that really yeah they support Okay, well then

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe they understood. I hope they do still back then

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm listen, I'm gonna call shout out to this and

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>be like, listen, man, you know Jay, why you know

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>all to me here records? You helped him? You did?

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>You did because look like them them brdidas to Gorda.

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 4>Them them on the would have been on the Mexican

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 4>piece Meskan Pi n on it out of eight thousand

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 4>until I have fell out.

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Bro, listen, bro, and and I would hold you up.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Bro. You and you working with me? You red with

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>me or you jac this is my express Oh that's

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 1>my I'm on all this.

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 3>If if gonna be youngest Bro, I was employee of

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 3>the month two times in a row.

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to tell you, Bro, I'm gonna have fun.

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Was employed while you were still in Gorditas. Is it

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 2>stealing or white white were helping you survive?

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm surviving. This ain't stealing, man. That ain't the way

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:54.959
<v Speaker 4>you say it. Yeah, d Bro, you make it sound

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:55.439
<v Speaker 4>so bad.

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>We're all we're gonna get to that now. I'm just

0:36:58.760 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>saying my head on on.

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 2>So at what point the you say yourself, these court

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Deitas ain't gonna do it.

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I got I got to leave Kansas. I gotta go

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>somewhere so I can really go through this music.

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't the Gordidas because it's my say the own

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 4>me love Gordidas and that was recent me still, but

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 4>hey it bro, if you want to just go there, bro,

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 4>what I got by the Kansas?

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Man?

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Look my my my group shot the staff in London

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 4>and Jay Rock BG inside man, those guys I love

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 4>them to this day. He's still my guys, still my brothers, man.

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 4>But you know, it just wasn't cutting. You know, everybody

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 4>got personal things going on, you know what I mean.

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 4>And at the time I started djaying with my guy

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Scottie Mack with my Maaser. At the time, I was

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 4>DJ and Lawrence Kansas, and I started staying with them

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 4>with him for a minute, but then I I DJ.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 4>I had a job at night at a grocery store

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 4>and I worked in the daytime, so I was really

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 4>getting no sleep. But then all of a sudden, man,

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 4>I you know, it was I got somebody pregnant. M

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 4>I said, Oh my god, real life, real life hit me.

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I said, what, I'm just twenty one, twenty two years old, gotcha?

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 4>She pregnant and whatnot. And I'm working. I'm working. I'm working,

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 4>and shout out to Kate Briscoe kpe brisco Me and

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 4>her have been working because now I'm I'm I'm in

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 4>winedot now i' mess so I'm living. Yeah, brisko. Man,

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 4>I stayed down street from her, you know what I mean.

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 4>I've known her since fourteen, like he or so, like

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 4>she was.

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>She was.

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.479
<v Speaker 4>She would come to my basement parties in the crib

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 4>and whatnot. But I would go her crib and were

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 4>working on songs. We'll work on whatever. And she moves

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 4>to Atlanta and she meets uh these managers by name

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 4>of Mace and Eddie and she's showing my music and

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 4>at the time, Bro, and this is where the sacrifice

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 4>really started for me and making tough choices, you know.

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.840
<v Speaker 4>And my Mama always taught me before she passed away.

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>She she she, she.

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 4>Said, Anthony, you gotta make a choice or a decision.

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 4>She said, with my life, I've always made a choice

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 4>and it and it may not have been good for whoever,

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 4>but I'm okay with the way I've chose to live

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 4>my life no matter what happens to me, good or bad. Anthony,

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 4>always know I chose this life. So always remember to

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 4>make a choice, you know, and don't regret it. Because

0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 4>she's like, I don't regret nothing. I said, Wow, okay, Ma,

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 4>so I and this is just private before her passing, Man,

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 4>I made a choice when my daughter was born. A

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 4>week after my dart was born, Bro, I worked at

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 4>medicare and I worked at the grocery store at night.

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:20.479
<v Speaker 1>An opportunity came.

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 4>Can Brisco hit me like, hey, you should come to

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Atlanta because you know we're finna work with Jazzy Faye.

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.720
<v Speaker 4>At the time, shout to Jazzy, you know we're finna

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.320
<v Speaker 4>do this. We're finna do that. And at the time,

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, there are some things that was told to

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.879
<v Speaker 4>me pretty much like hey, you'll be okay, like you'll

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 4>be all right, like just come and I said, man,

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 4>but I got a job.

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I got this.

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 4>My daughter was just born a week ago, and it's like, nah,

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be okay, blah blah blah. So I talked

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 4>to my daughter's mom and I talked to her parents.

0:40:56.080 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, hey, this is what's going on. I

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 4>don't know what to do because y'all know I do

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.240
<v Speaker 4>music and this is a big opportunity Jazzy fayce Jazzy

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 4>Faye at the time, and it's Atlanta is the opportunity

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 4>is just there, and you know, it was pretty much

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 4>like it was my choice, you know.

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And I went to Atlanta And were you okay when

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you got because you know you're gonna be okay.

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't okay. Yeah, I wasn't okay.

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 4>I understood what real life was and survival was then,

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 4>you know, and I learned that I don't want to

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 4>depend on nobody.

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't nobody else. So you got a job when you

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>got to Atlanta too? No, no, no, no, No, that

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was that was man.

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 4>Each each time I wanted a job. Man, my my, my, man.

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 4>May's look here. Don't be mad, bro, but it's like no, no, Jase,

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 4>like no, you make beats.

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 3>And not makes the rapper guys either, this is a

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.439
<v Speaker 3>whole different type Max, But no, you make beats. He

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 3>had a condo that we always stay in and whatnot,

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 3>and I just made beats all day.

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 4>And when it was trying to go see Jazzy, he

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 4>would pick us up and we go see Jazzy or

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 4>whoever else that he had set. And everything that was

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 4>said to me to get me out there, just that

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 4>just wasn't the case.

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You know. It just didn't work out like that.

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 4>So now I look like I left both my jobs

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 4>and came out here with the brand new baby, chasing

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:38.760
<v Speaker 4>the dream.

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Chasing the dream?

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 4>What that looked like to somebody else who don't understand

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 4>chasing the dream? Oh yeah, no, it's everything is falling apart,

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 4>everything's falling. You're the worst person on the planet, the

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 4>worst person on the planet, because of your choice.

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Because of my choice, because much choice. Yeah, I understood that.

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Though, how long did it take for anything to break

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>through for you? Why are you in Atlanta are just

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>anything breakthrough in Atlanta, nothing how long you're there.

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm different about a year, bro like, but look, nothing's cracking.

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 4>I was supposed to get a deal with Jazzy Fass

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 4>at the time, I was his first producer ever that

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 4>he was gonna sign.

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 3>And it fell through.

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 4>I was already depressed, man, Like, my daughter's mom was

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 4>calling me like, hey, when you come back up here.

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 3>When you're gonna see you know, when you're gonna do this,

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 3>when you're going whatever. And I would go back a

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:40.479
<v Speaker 3>little bit, but you know, I'm broke.

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 4>So I had to figure it out, you know, every

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 4>now and then, you know, one day I asked one

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 4>of my people is to get me a flight back

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 4>to Kansas because I you know, and this is and

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 4>the contract is done. It's like in the final stages

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 4>of me signing in May. By a week, I told Jazzy.

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 4>I said, Jazzy, I'm gonna go home, bro, just to

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 4>see my daughter. He just had a daughter too, so

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 4>he understood. He's like, dang, I want you to go

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 4>somewhere with me, But all good, just whatever. I go

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 4>to Kansas City, Man, I get a phone call from

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, our manager at the time two in the morning.

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 1>He said, J. J. White, I'm sorry, but yeah, that

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.919
<v Speaker 1>the deal is done is over of table soft table.

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, huh, what you mean is off the table.

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 4>He's like, yeah, I'm yeah, that's yeah, and then he

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 4>just pretty much hung up the phone and.

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm just left like, Okay, I had little advance coming.

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 1>You had already spent that in your head too, you know, because.

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 4>I already told my baby mama that, you know, I

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:49.840
<v Speaker 4>got some with blyping and this, you know whatnot And

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 4>because I came to cancel, like with five hundred dollars

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 4>on me.

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 3>That's it. No bank count on nothing, I understand.

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>And now you're back in can If you don't go

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>back to Atlanta from there.

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 4>Hell no, hell no, hell I'm stuck and the money

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.919
<v Speaker 4>and until I get a job, back to the job.

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I got a job.

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 4>Probably about maybe May, maybe a year later, because man,

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm hustling beats at this time. You know,

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm selling beats, you know, so you selling them in

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 4>the hood now, yeah, man, I'm I'm with the game

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 4>making a couple of dollars. Yeah, man, you're selling beats

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 4>for two hundred dollars two yeah, man, hey, yeah, you

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 4>can't entertainment.

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:43.359
<v Speaker 4>Those guys are blessing me, broy. But when I was

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 4>down for a minute, they would come through every two

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 4>weeks and buy ten beats.

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:50.439
<v Speaker 1>So you making two thousand and every two weeks? Yeah,

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>fourth or for a little while yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>but you know, not smart, no bank account, right, you're

0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.399
<v Speaker 1>running through it? What? Man?

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:01.919
<v Speaker 3>And my group was kind of like around.

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Still, so it's like, yo, are you back in the

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>group now too?

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 3>We had Nerve penicially broke up, man, but I'm back

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 3>in Kansas, back Kansas.

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>We're back.

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 4>We don't figure it out, listen, man, come on, man,

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 4>I got got for the team. I got beef clothes,

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 4>no clothes, I ain't gonna yeah it's closed, or if

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 4>they need something paid, yeah whatever, but I'm just spending

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 4>them like it's all good.

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>But I gotta y'all got it fly? How long does

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 1>this last? About a few months? A few months, a

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>few months? What happens after that?

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:29.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm broke?

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 2>I listening, We're gonna always be broken, broke in list

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm broke. If it dry up and it drives up.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm I'm back figuring it out, and I, you know,

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.760
<v Speaker 4>I get a job at this place called Target Marketing,

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 4>where what we did was we helped people pretty much

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 4>fill our applications to go to school. And that's that's

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.399
<v Speaker 4>what I did, Man and man as a job. Man

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 4>a job was bro to get that job. Me and

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 4>my boy for London Man, Me and him would there

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 4>was this promotion going on at a casino where they

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 4>would give us like these free scratch offs and they

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:14.720
<v Speaker 4>would let us gamble with it. Whenever money we made

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 4>or we won, we can keep it. That's how we survived,

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 4>getting gas, money to go to work, all that, eat

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 4>and all that. So we would wake up early, go

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 4>to the casino. Yeah, gamble a little bit because this

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 4>is the boats too, right, the boats and whatnot. Yeah,

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 4>but but we but this one was downtown and so

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.919
<v Speaker 4>we we went there and.

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:39.439
<v Speaker 1>And for a while, that's how we got to work.

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.959
<v Speaker 4>Bro and I started making some money at the job

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.280
<v Speaker 4>and whatnot. I was able to you know, I'm oncely okay,

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm taking care of my you know, I'm giving the money.

0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 4>You know, okay, here got your head above water. I

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.920
<v Speaker 4>got you, I got you. I'm in a you know.

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Apartment, you know what I mean. Like, I'm you know,

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you becoming an adult at this man, I'm like that

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:02.760
<v Speaker 1>he's starting to feel whatever.

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm all right, man, like we bro, I'm

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 4>still I'm making beasts though, and and I'm tired. But

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 4>after a call, that call stressed me out, man, I

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 4>literally and in the place, man, I just laid my

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 4>head back. Now, before that, there was this girl who

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:29.280
<v Speaker 4>stood up a week prior a supervisor and said, Anthony,

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why you keep doing all that music

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 4>and stuff for it ain't like you don't ever make it.

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 3>And this is in front of the whole floor, and

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 3>I was like, damn.

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>At the church when you play drums or something.

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.879
<v Speaker 4>Nah, damn you bro, you got it now, Bro, I'm

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 4>sitting there like yo, I'm like it's cool.

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.319
<v Speaker 1>It's cool. It's like it's like you got to say

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>it to him like that, you know, you don't know

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>his life, blah blah.

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 4>It was like he was like nah because he always

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 4>my music about like like like he gonna ever make

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:02.320
<v Speaker 4>it and whatnot. So anyway that that next week, you know,

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:03.879
<v Speaker 4>I had a long night making beats.

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Someone.

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 4>Now I'm trying to hustle be still. At the same time,

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 4>it made grew. I'm just whatever, I don't care. I

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.640
<v Speaker 4>get to work and that call is stressful.

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Man. I lean my head back, like.

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:23.680
<v Speaker 4>Bro, I swear on my day off, Bro, I get

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:29.439
<v Speaker 4>a call from the management team and literally no way,

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:33.720
<v Speaker 4>yeah bro, literally Craig.

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Huh, you're crag Craig. Bro.

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 4>It's like it's like Anthony, I'm so, were you sleeping

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 4>on the job? I said, no, I wasn't sleep. I said,

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't sleep. I'm just I was tired, I said.

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.280
<v Speaker 4>After the call, I just laid my head back because

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 4>it was it was a long call. She said, well,

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 4>blah blah says that you were you were sleeping and

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 4>unfortunately that sounds like you were sleeping and we have

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 4>a no sleep policy. So gonna let you go, but

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 4>you can come people to check. Thank you so much

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:04.280
<v Speaker 4>for working for us, and blah.

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. I said, just like that, y'all. I'm

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:09.800
<v Speaker 1>so sorry, got fired on your day off, got fired

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.359
<v Speaker 1>on my date off, man, I said, he said, didn't

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 1>have you on camera steal in boxes? Boxes?

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:15.879
<v Speaker 3>You mean tacos?

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm saying, like in Friday they had Craig he

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:22.480
<v Speaker 1>was he was, it was wasn't he ain't still said

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>they had me on tape. I ain't say that when

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 1>they told you was sleeping, I ain't. I wasn't sleep

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>on No, but it was my words, her word, but

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:33.320
<v Speaker 1>it was her word. But they they didn't like me.

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the same girl that says you wasn't gonna

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:40.279
<v Speaker 1>be no. It was her friend. They was conspiring against you.

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Bro, so she didn't think he was gonna be nothing.

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 2>And the other one didn't want you to have a job.

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 2>She said, I got you, And what's so crazy? It

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 2>was one of my boys in the group.

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:48.839
<v Speaker 1>It was a girl.

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 4>I knew he was gonna a man yo yo, but

0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 4>but it was a blessing. Though, man, listen, man, each

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 4>each thing is a blessing. And the man each I

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:03.439
<v Speaker 4>got fired. I just know that what my purpose. It's like, yeah,

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.479
<v Speaker 4>it's all good, It's like whatever cool?

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Does that lead to the call to get to New York? No,

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that was we actually skipped over that part.

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Skipped over New York. Yeah, no, we can't skip over

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 2>New York's. New Yorkers want to get cracking.

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:20.279
<v Speaker 1>We definitely hit them in New York a little bit.

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta's not before New York. New York briefly is before Atlanta.

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh you go to New York first?

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:28.359
<v Speaker 1>When I was super young?

0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, like nineteen year old, twenty year old young,

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 4>like briefly, I got to go to New York. I

0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 4>met these people off a black planet though, you remember that.

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I remember I wasn't a black Planet person, but nouse.

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:48.720
<v Speaker 2>That was like more of like a dating site, wasn't it,

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Like Hey, it's whatever you want?

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Yeah, I wasn't into it. I was in the

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 1>music chatrol the Valentine didn't have a black planet really, no,

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>out of my space, well that was before my space.

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Brother know that.

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 4>Jermaine eight seven, Oh oh, Jermaine nine one three that

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 4>was the page, not one three kN city So listen,

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 4>jeez h black planet, yeah man, black planet bro. So

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.879
<v Speaker 4>I met this this guy, Jermain forster Man from Barbados,

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 4>but he lived in New New York.

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 4>He wrote in the check can anybody remake care of

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 4>being Queen? I said I can't. I can't, you know

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. But I'm like, I can do anything.

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 4>It took me three months to remake that kid Bro,

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 4>because I was okay planning, but you know that's hilarious.

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:44.799
<v Speaker 4>I always thought bigger than what I what what I

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 4>could do Bro. So anyway, Bro, I have a coolationship

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 4>with him and his manager.

0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Bro and Brian. Yeah, Bro, it's bad now, but look

0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>they were like, Man, you're cool. Man.

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:00.759
<v Speaker 3>He was like, how about this. How about you come

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:04.239
<v Speaker 3>to New York. You can stay with us. We got

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 3>an extra room as long as you make beats for

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:13.839
<v Speaker 3>Jermaine for free, I said, bet, So, I.

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Go to New New York. Bro and.

0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Dale in Jamaine Forester Man, I was in Saint Aubin's

0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Queen's one hundred ninety seven the Murdock, where ll Cooj

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 4>is from. Right so at the time, months later Mster

0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 4>LLOJ was throwing a back to school event and I'm

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 4>really not like, I'm really a shy person, Bro, I

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 4>really don't like being around a lot of people like

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.879
<v Speaker 4>I would rather not. You know I know that about you.

0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 4>I would rather not. But my phone was off at

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 4>the time. I'm looking out the window and I see

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 4>just I seen ll I've seen security, I seen all

0:53:56.239 --> 0:54:00.400
<v Speaker 4>these people from so I'm across the street from the park. Literally,

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 4>I could just like that's literally across the street is

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 4>a small street. I said, Man, Nah, I ain't doing that.

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 4>So I'm bored. Man, I'm tireding on my space. Man,

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go outside. So instead of walking across the

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 4>street directly into the crowd, I walk down the street

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:23.879
<v Speaker 4>and go up and around. I hear this guy say

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.480
<v Speaker 4>MTV Awards. He was leaned over in the car saying

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 4>MTB Awards. I said, let me stop right here, let

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 4>me kick rocks until he's done talking.

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Because he said MTV awards.

0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what he's talking about, but I need.

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 1>To know who he is.

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Because he said MTV awards. He came back from him

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.040
<v Speaker 4>or something like that. So I approached him. I said, Hey,

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:46.359
<v Speaker 4>my name's J White. I'm Can'a City. I just got here.

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:50.240
<v Speaker 4>My keyboard is in the house right here, I said,

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 4>I got beats. I don't know what you do, but

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:56.279
<v Speaker 4>you want to hear him? He said, get his friend?

0:54:56.320 --> 0:55:00.480
<v Speaker 4>He said, sure, why not? Hey, you know this man

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 4>from canapeng. I invited this perfect stranger into some more

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:04.359
<v Speaker 4>strangers houses.

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>The black man to be there making beach for tripping whatever.

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Bro, Like, that's how I felt, man, I'm like Kanye,

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 3>we your man.

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 1>He in New York. So he follows you into the crib,

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 1>into the crib that ain't your.

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:26.840
<v Speaker 4>That ain't mine. I had a young hogh motive that

0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:29.760
<v Speaker 4>my friend's staff gave me. That was in a group.

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.719
<v Speaker 4>He said, nah man, pretty much like you're the chosen one.

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 4>Pretty much like, ah, bro, this is you. I said,

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 4>for sure, I want let you down.

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Baby.

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 3>I played beasts for him in the headphones and he

0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 3>just shakes his head like.

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>It's good.

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 4>I said, you like him? He said, it's good. He

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:52.319
<v Speaker 4>gives me a card it says shafty and Tea. He said, Yo,

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 4>let's work tonight. I still don't know who he is. Yeah,

0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:01.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, so I'm green as hell. This man gonna

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 4>hit me and be like, all are you ready to work?

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.239
<v Speaker 4>It's twelve am. I said, hold on, we're trying to

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:09.279
<v Speaker 4>rob me or something. We're trying to you, trying to

0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 4>take me out, Like what's good? So I told Dale.

0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 1>He was like nah. Yeah.

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:15.440
<v Speaker 3>He's like nah, I mean you can go. You're gonna go?

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I said, nah. He trying to pick me up and

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:20.880
<v Speaker 1>take me to his house of working work on some

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:24.359
<v Speaker 1>music at twelve am. I said, who do that?

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 4>At the time, I said, I ain't doing that. I said, yo,

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 4>can you come at twelve noon tomorrow? He said yeah.

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 4>I said, oh good. And from there and that that

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 4>shaft by the way. He told me this, he said

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:42.839
<v Speaker 4>at his crib. He said, Jay White, You're not the

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:48.160
<v Speaker 4>best producer I've seen or been around, but what you

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:52.000
<v Speaker 4>got your work ethic is amazing, and I know you're

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 4>going to be good, you know. And he would have

0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 4>me in his hot basement cops too young to get

0:56:57.640 --> 0:56:58.399
<v Speaker 4>in the clubs with him.

0:56:58.520 --> 0:56:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'll just be working.

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 4>He believed in you, He believed in me, and I

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 4>will always be working on tracks and beats. And you know,

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:07.600
<v Speaker 4>at the time he was with Little Cam, he was

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 4>with he was working with bad Boy a lot. Like

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:11.840
<v Speaker 4>he was working. He was doing his thing. He was

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.880
<v Speaker 4>throwing parties and producing, you know. And I didn't know

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 4>who he was until that, you know. So anyway, we

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 4>get to New York. Let's fast forward.

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I uh, so you left New York at that time,

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>but came back. I left New York.

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Now you have the relationship. He told me. I only

0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:35.520
<v Speaker 4>left because I was homesick. You know he put out

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 4>a lot of money. He gave me two hundred dollars.

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 4>I said, okay, shop. He said, Yo, come back though,

0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 4>I said, shot, what you mean I'm coming back? What

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:50.000
<v Speaker 4>you mean I'm just going to visit? He said, Jay

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 4>come back. I said, I am coming back.

0:57:56.360 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Bruh. How many years? A decade later? You don't come

0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>back for ten years? Bro? Hey man listen, bro along

0:58:10.840 --> 0:58:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in his blessing. I get back, Bro, I get back

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to Kansas and guess what, You're back and can't see

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the life that job. No, My guys like, yo, let's

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 1>just do the group thing. I said, Hell, why not,

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:24.400
<v Speaker 1>He's back to the group.

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:27.920
<v Speaker 4>That's my groupse my brothers man like, I'm gonna go

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 4>down with the group.

0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I said, for real, man, you sure, bro, y'all want

0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:34.280
<v Speaker 1>to do this? Man? For real? They said yeah.

0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, we're gonna make it.

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:35.919
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 4>I know we're gonna make it. We gonna make it

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:42.400
<v Speaker 4>right here, man. And of course it didn't make it.

0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:44.480
<v Speaker 1>But ten years bro.

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bro, But Shaft so important to the story because

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Shaft, who do you work for? Bro? Like,

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>what agency do you work for?

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Because how you calling my friends checking on me with

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:01.560
<v Speaker 4>my phone was off. He would call my friends, sit

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 4>next to me, how do you have these numbers?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know?

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:09.000
<v Speaker 4>He was tapped in with everybody tapped in. And he

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:13.520
<v Speaker 4>will always check on me throughout my through I thought

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:17.720
<v Speaker 4>that that decade, whole decade, he will always check in,

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 4>always see what I'm doing, how I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I got beats? Him?

0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:25.919
<v Speaker 4>I'm still making beats. He will always make sure I'm

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 4>still working. Even when I wasn't working, he will always

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 4>still call me. He will find a way and he'll

0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 4>tell me what he's doing. Blah bah blah. So I

0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 4>give act to New York. Now, before that, I was

0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:48.520
<v Speaker 4>in Dallas. Now you know I was in I had

0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:54.440
<v Speaker 4>moved to Dallas, and man, during during that ten years,

0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 4>my mom got murdered. You know, in twenty fifteen, she

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<v Speaker 4>she got heard and I appreciate it. Man, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>she she got murdered. And after that, you know, now

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<v Speaker 4>I got two kids. Now you know I got two kids,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I got a young son at the time, and

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<v Speaker 4>my daughter is getting older. You know, I was just

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit older than man going through that. That

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<v Speaker 4>was like one of the times like yeah, man, going through.

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<v Speaker 4>That was very traumatic, bro. And uh yeah, man, that yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that that changed a lot for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It made me feel like I had nobody else because

1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:36.160
<v Speaker 4>my mom didn't raise me. But that was like my

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<v Speaker 4>best friend. Man, Like she had me young at sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>and I always just looked over her. I always just

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<v Speaker 4>and when when she was in jail, it's like that

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<v Speaker 4>was like my daughter almost like Mom, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>here's some money wherever I had, I son, come on,

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<v Speaker 4>let me mike. I remember one time, man, she she

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<v Speaker 4>called me. I was in line of going to a club.

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<v Speaker 4>She kept calling me, and I said, mam, what's up?

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<v Speaker 4>She said, talk to me, talk to me. I said,

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<v Speaker 4>for what she said, because everybody's doing crack around me

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<v Speaker 4>right now, and I need you to talk to me

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<v Speaker 4>so I won't do it. So I stood out there

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<v Speaker 4>in the cold, snowing whatever. And I stood out there

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<v Speaker 4>for like thirty forty minutes, bro, and I just I

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<v Speaker 4>talked to my mom to she got a ride to

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<v Speaker 4>come pick her up so she.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't do no drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, man, And that was the reallyson my mom

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<v Speaker 4>had ever been with me. She was like they doing

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<v Speaker 4>crack around me. Blah, blah, I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 4>it anything. I don't want to do it. Just talk

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<v Speaker 4>to me, please, just talk to me. Me hearing your voice,

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<v Speaker 4>I won't do it. Yeah, I just I say, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>freezing cold. But my mama need me to talk, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. I'm gonna talk. But anyway, my

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<v Speaker 4>mom was murdered. That was like my best friend and

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<v Speaker 4>she's my biggest cheerleader.

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<v Speaker 1>And man, I didn't want to be here no more. Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>I I wanted to off myself, man, really did. And

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<v Speaker 4>I tried, you know, and thank god, you know for me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not that's not happened, Thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you feel like change that for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Or saved you from or stopped you? Saves you for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but stopped you from, you know, going through with it

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<v Speaker 2>because you could still try.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know my mom, bro, my mom? You know

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<v Speaker 4>you know I was very dramatic with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro. I'm not gonna lie. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I was dramatic, bro, because I was. I'm depressed. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>It's like during that time, it's such a blur for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I only remember certain parts of twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>That stuck out like, but it was a blur, Bro,

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<v Speaker 4>like a blur, like I really I it was my

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<v Speaker 4>mom's ashes man, because you know how she got murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>Bros, It's just it's just graphic, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And and and and she and she told me months before,

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<v Speaker 4>she said, she said, Anthony, whatever you do, I do

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<v Speaker 4>not want to be cremated.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, she got murdered, bro, and the dude burnt the

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<v Speaker 4>house up with her body in it. So I had

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<v Speaker 4>no choice but yeah, to cremate her. So Bro, it

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<v Speaker 4>was just one night. I was just I'm just tired.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>I went grabbed her ashes man and I was ready

1:03:32.240 --> 1:03:36.440
<v Speaker 4>to go, but I just yeah, it just didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro, her ashes was Yeah. I was ready to go

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<v Speaker 4>go kick it with my mama.

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<v Speaker 1>That I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was ready. I just had a dream. She's in

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<v Speaker 4>my dream and she was just smiling.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>This is right after the murder, and and I just

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<v Speaker 4>felt like she was right there, and I just felt

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<v Speaker 4>like I just wanted to go be with her. And man,

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<v Speaker 4>because I felt like I had nobody. I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>I had nobody, and I literally always lived my life

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<v Speaker 4>with nobody. It's always felt like nobody, even when I

1:04:08.880 --> 1:04:11.600
<v Speaker 4>was a kid in school, when my grandma was sickly,

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<v Speaker 4>so she couldn't come to my plays or to whatever

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<v Speaker 4>I had in school or sports events because she was old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I had nobody in the stands to cheer for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody would clap to me. Nobody, I had nobody.

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<v Speaker 4>So I always built in myself a resilience to just

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<v Speaker 4>be the best that I can be in whatever I was.

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<v Speaker 4>And I got used to nobody clapping for me. I

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<v Speaker 4>got used to nobody cheering me, y'all. I got used

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<v Speaker 4>to nobody porn into me.

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<v Speaker 1>There.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I always wonder why I never had that,

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<v Speaker 4>Why I never had that moment, you know, why I

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<v Speaker 4>never had parents that would pour into me, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean. But it made me to who I

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<v Speaker 4>am right now. You know, I'm so appreciative of that.

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<v Speaker 4>But but yeah, man, when fifteen twenty sixteen, which was terrible,

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<v Speaker 4>my cousin Kenetian man, my angel man. She you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I told her, you know, what I was trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do to myself, and and she said, listen, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>care what you're doing right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Come to New York right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had family in New York.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, So how it happened was the people

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<v Speaker 4>who I first met in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I introduced her to them years ago, and they stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in contact.

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<v Speaker 4>They stayed in contact because my cousin was a model

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<v Speaker 4>for four fashion models. But she ended up coming to

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<v Speaker 4>New York because she needs somebody to you know, to know.

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<v Speaker 4>And so anyway, she ended up staying there, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And she only she only came because of when I

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<v Speaker 4>first got there. So it all worked out in a

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<v Speaker 4>sense to where it's like, dang. So anyway, she's in

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<v Speaker 4>New York, she's married now with whatever, and she says,

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<v Speaker 4>come to New York. I'm beat down man mentally physically

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<v Speaker 4>just I'm I don't man, But she's that like what

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<v Speaker 4>her and her husband Anthony Man, I'm I'm I get

1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:09.880
<v Speaker 4>to your house man, and they immediately just start pouring

1:06:09.880 --> 1:06:13.720
<v Speaker 4>into me and just building me back up, just building

1:06:13.760 --> 1:06:17.480
<v Speaker 4>me up with words, just building me up, building me up.

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<v Speaker 4>And like he would call me J tight or just

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<v Speaker 4>J King or just J something just something big.

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<v Speaker 1>He would call me in all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>He was just like mail me. Hear them beats, man,

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<v Speaker 4>come on, let's go play them beats. Man's let's let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>And they just building me up with words. Man, just

1:06:36.720 --> 1:06:39.160
<v Speaker 4>slowly just building me up, building me up, building me up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I call.

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<v Speaker 4>I called Chef, and I said, hey, man, I'm back

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<v Speaker 4>in New York. He said, what so I'm back in

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<v Speaker 4>New York, man, he said no, I said, I'm back.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, all right. He said, you got some beats?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, yeah, I got.

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<v Speaker 4>Some beats man. And he said, well, come come onto

1:06:57.720 --> 1:07:00.600
<v Speaker 4>the crib. I said, the same one, the same place.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, yeah. I go to Queens and I go

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<v Speaker 4>in that basement. Bro my picture that he's had from

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<v Speaker 4>a decade ago, still on the wall. Bro in that basement,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, Chef, my picture still right here. He said, yo,

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<v Speaker 4>you're my little man. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, come on,

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<v Speaker 4>he was like, but where the beats at?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>Like the studio is small as hell, is dusty whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I plugged my computer up and and I'm playing beats man.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just looking at Shabby bobbed me and said, you know,

1:07:34.200 --> 1:07:37.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing whatever, but I feel like energy behind me.

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<v Speaker 3>I turned around. That's CARDI.

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<v Speaker 1>You never met her.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't never met her yet. And like he had

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<v Speaker 4>told me about her a little bit like prior to but.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Internet or anything, a little bit he would

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<v Speaker 1>show me her Okay, he was sending her little videos

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<v Speaker 1>over her or whatnot. But I wasn't a headspace of

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<v Speaker 1>all that. Bro, my mom, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, car Arty was there and she she was

1:08:02.200 --> 1:08:04.880
<v Speaker 4>bobbing her head and what not. She was and then

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much, man, he took me to Boston Market, man,

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<v Speaker 4>and he and he gave me a choice, and he said,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, it's either you can go out there and

1:08:16.320 --> 1:08:18.960
<v Speaker 4>chase these dreams with what you feel like. You got

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<v Speaker 4>lined up now and now you know, I got Valet

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<v Speaker 4>out and stuff like that, you know, because this is

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<v Speaker 4>twenty sixteen, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You had landed a record.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I got little stuff going on with A

1:08:29.840 --> 1:08:33.479
<v Speaker 4>one and whatnot, and from Kansas City as well, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to spring break himself spring break a one. Floyd.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I know him, mister Floyd. You know Floyd.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually Floyd dated my baby Mama Bee before I did.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, man, he came. It was in the

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<v Speaker 1>club in Kan City, man, and he was like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you cool. His hell, bro, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want you know, man, that your your your

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<v Speaker 1>girl bro? Ye you know that was that was my

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<v Speaker 1>girl first. Bro, I'm saying, but it's all good though,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, want to let you know, bro, all right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know you. Okay, it's all good. A one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a one, cool bro, that's my guy. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>But but but yeah, man, twenty sixteen. Man, was a

1:09:14.760 --> 1:09:19.759
<v Speaker 4>choice that I had to make, man, because you gotta

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<v Speaker 4>be very selfish about this, and you gotta be okay

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<v Speaker 4>with the outcome of the choice you made.

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<v Speaker 2>So was the choice he was putting in front of

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<v Speaker 2>you was to kind of be an in house producer.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, Yeah, with him, with him believe in what I

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<v Speaker 4>believe in. Yeah, but believe in this right here, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>CARDI b believe in that.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was it for you that made you make

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<v Speaker 1>that choice? To say? I get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it that energy, like you said that you felt

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<v Speaker 2>from just even her being behind you.

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<v Speaker 4>Nah, it hadn't had nothing to do with Carty, had

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<v Speaker 4>everything to do with Chef, But I had nothing else

1:10:01.200 --> 1:10:01.760
<v Speaker 4>to go back to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I mean. But you trusted his.

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<v Speaker 4>Vision, man, man, Yeah, I trusted his vision all all

1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:10.479
<v Speaker 4>the way, and also trusted what I could do with

1:10:10.800 --> 1:10:13.040
<v Speaker 4>what I seen, you know. So I said, with that

1:10:13.160 --> 1:10:15.680
<v Speaker 4>vision and with my talents.

1:10:15.960 --> 1:10:17.040
<v Speaker 1>And y'all just got to work.

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<v Speaker 4>They had been working, you know a little bit before me,

1:10:20.800 --> 1:10:22.639
<v Speaker 4>you know, but I know me, me and the last

1:10:22.640 --> 1:10:26.679
<v Speaker 4>added piece would I feel like would help bring this home?

1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:27.360
<v Speaker 1>You know?

1:10:27.800 --> 1:10:30.200
<v Speaker 4>But he pretty much said, yeah, you want to go

1:10:30.240 --> 1:10:32.240
<v Speaker 4>out and keep doing what you're doing and figure it

1:10:32.320 --> 1:10:35.600
<v Speaker 4>out by all means, please, But if you want to

1:10:35.640 --> 1:10:37.160
<v Speaker 4>work here and pretty much work for.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a hope and a dream.

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<v Speaker 4>Right here and watch you chose the hope of the dream,

1:10:45.920 --> 1:10:47.400
<v Speaker 4>chose to hope and always hoping the dream.

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<v Speaker 1>And it paid off.

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<v Speaker 4>And it paid off a year and a half later. Man, if,

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<v Speaker 4>what did it feel like as you're making Vodak Yellow

1:10:57.760 --> 1:10:59.479
<v Speaker 4>at the time when I made the beat, Bro, I

1:10:59.520 --> 1:11:03.000
<v Speaker 4>knew it was I knew it was just without a

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<v Speaker 4>song on it. I knew it was special. It felt great,

1:11:06.600 --> 1:11:09.479
<v Speaker 4>it felt good just making it. I said, this is

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<v Speaker 4>it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So had you been like in a Kodak moment?

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<v Speaker 4>He said, Kodak Yeah, Bro, you know what, Bro, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't listen to hip hop music like that.

1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Bro. So I had never heard that song before. So

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't even heard it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never like, I only heard that song when the

1:11:27.240 --> 1:11:31.760
<v Speaker 4>song came out when one of my guys back home

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<v Speaker 4>in Texas, DJ A Sap. I was with him when

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<v Speaker 4>around that week when the song broke he was doing shows.

1:11:39.200 --> 1:11:42.280
<v Speaker 4>He always played that song with it. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>that song. Yeah, I didn't know because I don't know

1:11:46.800 --> 1:11:48.600
<v Speaker 4>a lot of songs to hip hop. This, this is

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<v Speaker 4>not my thing. I I don't know, you know what

1:11:50.400 --> 1:11:50.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>But I do know you didn't know a little Cedri

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<v Speaker 1>and the Haley singers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Bro, jojo, Bro, I'm cool. Look here, don't you

1:11:57.720 --> 1:11:59.960
<v Speaker 4>live in your world? A nineties rap?

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<v Speaker 1>Please don't ask me, Bro, I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Josy is not nineties rapp, but up It's okay.

1:12:07.000 --> 1:12:10.120
<v Speaker 4>But I know about Joy because it Josy. But they're

1:12:10.200 --> 1:12:14.719
<v Speaker 4>legends though, But nineties rapped though, Bro, nothing. You gotta

1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:17.559
<v Speaker 4>be like the biggest of the biggest for me to know, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, Tupac. Yeah, That's what I'm saying, Like, it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be that it got it gotta be Will.

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<v Speaker 3>Smith mc hammer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you okay?

1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:26.880
<v Speaker 4>You know the things that were like hues on the radio,

1:12:26.960 --> 1:12:30.799
<v Speaker 4>and the MTV. M TV I was allowed to watch that, gotcha?

1:12:31.160 --> 1:12:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Or that's why when you heard Chef saying by the

1:12:33.920 --> 1:12:37.639
<v Speaker 2>MTV Awards, you're like, oh, he must be that's MTV.

1:12:38.520 --> 1:12:41.559
<v Speaker 4>MTV pop makes you know, big makes sense, makes sense.

1:12:41.760 --> 1:12:43.320
<v Speaker 4>You know, I can listen to the big stuff.

1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:47.479
<v Speaker 2>So when Carti lace her vocals, doing her doing her part,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't even.

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<v Speaker 4>Know that that's bro. I thought it was a good song.

1:12:52.560 --> 1:12:55.680
<v Speaker 4>Like I thought it was a good It was a

1:12:55.920 --> 1:12:58.479
<v Speaker 4>it was a great song. It is a great song. Yeah,

1:12:58.479 --> 1:13:00.519
<v Speaker 4>that's what I thought, you know what I mean? And

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<v Speaker 4>so how does it go?

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<v Speaker 1>Then? Now when it's time to do the business.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro, that's what it gets tricky. It gets very very tricky.

1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:10.160
<v Speaker 4>It gets tricky tricky.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the funny part is I had heard of you

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<v Speaker 2>really through b K, through KC Cats that I already knew.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, nah, it's times of cat Man, like

1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever, you know, just like you understand, my

1:13:26.960 --> 1:13:31.080
<v Speaker 2>whole adult life has been connected to Kansas City and

1:13:31.200 --> 1:13:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the homies from Kansas City, you know what I mean,

1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Like me coming to LA. First producer I work with

1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:42.280
<v Speaker 2>when I'm here at eighteen is David Thomas I'm connected

1:13:42.320 --> 1:13:46.200
<v Speaker 2>into Olivio Harrison, you know what I mean, I'm already

1:13:46.240 --> 1:13:49.639
<v Speaker 2>locked in with KC. So everything that's that's brewing out there,

1:13:49.800 --> 1:13:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty much known about.

1:13:51.000 --> 1:13:54.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know this the Bay and Kansas City, we

1:13:54.600 --> 1:13:56.479
<v Speaker 1>are related. Like, I didn't even.

1:13:56.320 --> 1:13:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Really understand how big the MESSI Marv record I have

1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:02.960
<v Speaker 2>that Say Love was until I was in Kansas City

1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:05.479
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh, y'all really know this shit, Like

1:14:05.920 --> 1:14:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking it's a local record back home.

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<v Speaker 3>Go play it right now, tear club up. It's cracking

1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:12.080
<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Right So for me, I, like I said, I had

1:14:15.680 --> 1:14:19.240
<v Speaker 2>known so many guys in Kansas City that your name

1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:24.960
<v Speaker 2>had come up. So funny thing is when Bodak Yellow cracks,

1:14:25.439 --> 1:14:28.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, the homies from KC is like, nah, that's

1:14:29.200 --> 1:14:31.800
<v Speaker 2>that's Jay White. He can't city. That's the one we

1:14:31.920 --> 1:14:34.439
<v Speaker 2>telling you about, you know what I mean. But throughout

1:14:34.479 --> 1:14:39.120
<v Speaker 2>the industry, the industry was saying that your beat came

1:14:39.160 --> 1:14:39.919
<v Speaker 2>from the internet.

1:14:40.560 --> 1:14:43.400
<v Speaker 1>What yes, that's at least that's what I was getting back.

1:14:43.520 --> 1:14:47.000
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy that it was like some random kid that

1:14:47.120 --> 1:14:51.320
<v Speaker 2>did a beat on the internet that they bought what.

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<v Speaker 1>Not, that you were in the house producer. This is

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<v Speaker 1>new story.

1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:57.639
<v Speaker 2>This is the story that I was getting wow on

1:14:57.680 --> 1:14:59.240
<v Speaker 2>this side of the country, damn.

1:14:59.400 --> 1:15:03.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, no, they said we bought the beat.

1:15:03.320 --> 1:15:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, it's a new one. Okay, so tell more.

1:15:10.160 --> 1:15:12.040
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like it's a good one. I'm like, nah,

1:15:12.200 --> 1:15:18.040
<v Speaker 2>that's the young kid I've been hearing about, Like nah, nah, nah,

1:15:18.080 --> 1:15:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that's one in beats. And you know when the rental beats, Damn, bro,

1:15:23.520 --> 1:15:25.519
<v Speaker 2>So this kid hit a lick. It's a good story

1:15:25.560 --> 1:15:27.720
<v Speaker 2>with a rental beat. It's a good lick.

1:15:28.720 --> 1:15:30.479
<v Speaker 1>And then a nigga tell me he owned the publisher

1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:37.240
<v Speaker 1>from it. But yeah, yeah yeah. I was like, okay,

1:15:38.000 --> 1:15:44.840
<v Speaker 1>all right, so the business, so the business of this record. Now,

1:15:46.160 --> 1:15:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I tell you that yellow, that yellow killed the streets.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just no established naming that one of y'all has fed.

1:15:55.560 --> 1:15:58.160
<v Speaker 4>What's what's that commercial back then day where they had

1:15:58.160 --> 1:15:59.240
<v Speaker 4>like to feed the children and.

1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Something like thought, yes, I know what you're talking about, bro.

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<v Speaker 4>We would do the awards like save Africa. That's about

1:16:05.800 --> 1:16:08.800
<v Speaker 4>that Yellow being my awards.

1:16:08.920 --> 1:16:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I was there.

1:16:11.120 --> 1:16:15.839
<v Speaker 4>When I seen every publisher get up for Vodak Yellow.

1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:22.479
<v Speaker 4>That song had everybody's hands, and that when I say

1:16:22.520 --> 1:16:28.599
<v Speaker 4>that we experienced so many different lawsuits, so many different

1:16:28.640 --> 1:16:33.519
<v Speaker 4>people coming in the business was already just business y,

1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:38.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, and uh, that song fail a lot of people.

1:16:38.680 --> 1:16:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll say that, so was Cardi already on Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they really haven't.

1:16:45.439 --> 1:16:47.599
<v Speaker 4>They didn't really make the BIGG announcement like that though,

1:16:47.880 --> 1:16:49.600
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, because God, we did the

1:16:49.640 --> 1:16:53.680
<v Speaker 4>mixtape Gangs by Them two, which I produced most of that.

1:16:54.240 --> 1:16:56.240
<v Speaker 4>They put that out, but they wanted to make it

1:16:56.240 --> 1:16:58.280
<v Speaker 4>still seem like she was independent.

1:16:57.840 --> 1:17:01.280
<v Speaker 1>And Vodak was on Gangs the Business part two. No, No,

1:17:02.000 --> 1:17:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Bodak was by itself. It was. It was a single.

1:17:04.720 --> 1:17:06.559
<v Speaker 3>It was a single, but nobody believe in it though.

1:17:08.520 --> 1:17:11.559
<v Speaker 4>I think you got a history of that too, every song,

1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:14.080
<v Speaker 4>almost every song.

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<v Speaker 1>Next thing you play, I don't believe in it, bro,

1:17:17.520 --> 1:17:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like number one, number one one. Don't believe my

1:17:20.800 --> 1:17:22.400
<v Speaker 1>ay now, don't believe it.

1:17:22.439 --> 1:17:25.639
<v Speaker 4>Not believe it ever, because as soon as you believe

1:17:25.640 --> 1:17:26.599
<v Speaker 4>it's over, it's clipped.

1:17:35.320 --> 1:17:37.240
<v Speaker 1>How long did it take you to touch some bread

1:17:38.040 --> 1:17:40.240
<v Speaker 1>after after that? Yellow? It ain't hell?

1:17:40.360 --> 1:17:43.240
<v Speaker 4>Soon as I soon as I signed a freaking admin deal.

1:17:44.160 --> 1:17:46.000
<v Speaker 4>At first, I was gonna do a pub deal man,

1:17:46.040 --> 1:17:47.960
<v Speaker 4>but the dream shout out to him. Man, I talked

1:17:48.000 --> 1:17:50.559
<v Speaker 4>to her dream bro. The dreams say, you better not

1:17:50.680 --> 1:17:53.920
<v Speaker 4>do no publishing deal. You do an admin deal. I

1:17:54.000 --> 1:17:56.760
<v Speaker 4>got a great ad and deal Sam at the time

1:17:57.280 --> 1:17:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Cobalt at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my dum Yes, Sam, I caught the floor. See Sam,

1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:03.439
<v Speaker 1>because Sea Sam. It used to be a yeah do

1:18:03.439 --> 1:18:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you know Sam? Huh? Do you know Sam went to

1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:09.960
<v Speaker 1>school in Kansas for for a year or two? You

1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:13.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that he went to school and levet Worth, Kansas. Wow? Yeah?

1:18:14.640 --> 1:18:17.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh Sam? So Sam, does your deal at Cobalt? Yeah?

1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:19.720
<v Speaker 1>And you touched some paper. He gave me a great

1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:21.320
<v Speaker 1>deal for the first time in your life at this

1:18:21.320 --> 1:18:25.639
<v Speaker 1>point in real paper? What Yeah? Would you buy nothing?

1:18:25.960 --> 1:18:27.639
<v Speaker 1>You buy nothing? Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>I told God this, I said, I said, if I

1:18:35.040 --> 1:18:36.920
<v Speaker 4>remake it, I just want to just be a giver

1:18:36.960 --> 1:18:38.160
<v Speaker 4>because I've always want to give her.

1:18:38.520 --> 1:18:39.439
<v Speaker 1>I just want to help people.

1:18:40.520 --> 1:18:43.360
<v Speaker 4>The first I got my check, I had ten dollars

1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:46.719
<v Speaker 4>on my account while he was number one and claims

1:18:46.720 --> 1:18:49.680
<v Speaker 4>on my DAI one zero yeah, one zero yeah, when

1:18:49.680 --> 1:18:52.960
<v Speaker 4>we was number one, number one on a high one

1:18:53.000 --> 1:18:54.759
<v Speaker 4>hundred for Shure ten dollars.

1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was doing I was waiting. I was waiting.

1:18:58.240 --> 1:19:00.479
<v Speaker 4>You know, each time that that that number it you

1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:03.920
<v Speaker 4>know it's staying long that that number get higher. It's

1:19:03.920 --> 1:19:06.320
<v Speaker 4>a chance you're gonna take. If it's on dip, you

1:19:06.400 --> 1:19:09.160
<v Speaker 4>might have to lose some money, but hey, yeah whatever,

1:19:09.760 --> 1:19:13.080
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. So that third week, that

1:19:13.160 --> 1:19:17.600
<v Speaker 4>third week, I signed my deal, but I knew my

1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:21.800
<v Speaker 4>life had changed. When we hit top eight, I said,

1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:23.360
<v Speaker 4>I saw shaking. I was like, Okay, I'm not broke.

1:19:23.400 --> 1:19:25.280
<v Speaker 1>No more. I'm not broke.

1:19:25.400 --> 1:19:28.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have some money at some at some point.

1:19:28.520 --> 1:19:33.040
<v Speaker 4>It's no I was crying, Bro, I was shaking, Bro.

1:19:33.080 --> 1:19:35.040
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't move, bro like I was. I was like,

1:19:35.080 --> 1:19:39.120
<v Speaker 4>all these years to get a moment like this, you

1:19:39.120 --> 1:19:43.040
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. It was a moment that you know,

1:19:43.120 --> 1:19:44.200
<v Speaker 4>I'll never forget, man.

1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:45.439
<v Speaker 1>I was.

1:19:45.479 --> 1:19:47.519
<v Speaker 4>I was in that same place where I want to

1:19:48.000 --> 1:19:51.800
<v Speaker 4>in my life at that That's where I celebrated, you know,

1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:54.320
<v Speaker 4>me going you know, I was like, yo, I'm not broke, bro,

1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm really not broke. So we did all the deal,

1:19:58.840 --> 1:20:01.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, all the meetings for everybody, and Sam said

1:20:01.880 --> 1:20:05.360
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna sign me. But that money hit my account. Bro,

1:20:05.960 --> 1:20:09.920
<v Speaker 4>I woke up and I had all them zeros plus

1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:10.720
<v Speaker 4>ten dollars.

1:20:15.360 --> 1:20:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I had all that, bro.

1:20:19.920 --> 1:20:22.040
<v Speaker 4>The first thing I did was I hit both my

1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:25.120
<v Speaker 4>baby mamas up man, uh you know, and my account

1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:25.479
<v Speaker 4>at the time.

1:20:25.800 --> 1:20:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I've been broke a long time. It's careers, I know,

1:20:29.360 --> 1:20:32.200
<v Speaker 1>niggas whos been on child's before the day. Yeah, career.

1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:34.599
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't even that right there.

1:20:34.600 --> 1:20:36.840
<v Speaker 4>I ain't thinking about that, bro, because it's cool, you know.

1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:40.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking about just hitting them off as fast as

1:20:40.240 --> 1:20:42.320
<v Speaker 4>I can, just because thank.

1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:43.599
<v Speaker 1>You, thank you, you know what I mean.

1:20:44.240 --> 1:20:46.200
<v Speaker 4>And my count wasn't set up to send a lot

1:20:46.200 --> 1:20:47.960
<v Speaker 4>of money right now, because it wasn't a lot of

1:20:48.000 --> 1:20:49.439
<v Speaker 4>money ever coming in and out.

1:20:49.320 --> 1:20:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Of that thing. So held it, no no read and

1:20:55.200 --> 1:20:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I kept looking a little counsel. I remember my first

1:20:57.400 --> 1:21:00.880
<v Speaker 1>piece of body. They held week for a week. Oh man.

1:21:00.960 --> 1:21:01.760
<v Speaker 1>They gave me what.

1:21:01.840 --> 1:21:03.519
<v Speaker 4>They gave me a little bit, a little bit, they

1:21:03.520 --> 1:21:05.439
<v Speaker 4>gave me a little bit, fan me a little bit.

1:21:05.920 --> 1:21:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, take this player, take this damn always straight to

1:21:09.040 --> 1:21:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the mall, the mall.

1:21:10.160 --> 1:21:13.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I spent I spent like forty five hours you know,

1:21:13.560 --> 1:21:13.920
<v Speaker 2>on the buy.

1:21:14.720 --> 1:21:16.960
<v Speaker 4>We got all this shit I wanted. Wasn't there no

1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:19.559
<v Speaker 4>more brother. But when you got the money, you don't

1:21:19.560 --> 1:21:21.719
<v Speaker 4>got none to buy. Yeah, you really don't got nothing

1:21:21.720 --> 1:21:25.680
<v Speaker 4>to buy? Bro, Yes, yes, yes you do. But but

1:21:25.800 --> 1:21:27.680
<v Speaker 4>when you first get money, I.

1:21:27.640 --> 1:21:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Don't know what. You don't know what to buy by man,

1:21:31.720 --> 1:21:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I called took care of him.

1:21:33.840 --> 1:21:36.000
<v Speaker 4>I gave him a thousand dollars a piece, so that's

1:21:36.040 --> 1:21:38.320
<v Speaker 4>all at the time that would come out for the account.

1:21:38.520 --> 1:21:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's like, I got y'all a minute, though.

1:21:41.760 --> 1:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I got you a minute. I got y'all let me

1:21:44.040 --> 1:21:45.519
<v Speaker 1>figure this out. Wow.

1:21:45.800 --> 1:21:47.960
<v Speaker 4>I called my boy veil Man. At the time, I

1:21:48.000 --> 1:21:50.680
<v Speaker 4>was working with a lot back in Dallas. Man, I was,

1:21:50.840 --> 1:21:53.400
<v Speaker 4>I was working. I think you met him, Yeah, I

1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:55.760
<v Speaker 4>called him, iself at, go get to guitar Center, bro,

1:21:56.320 --> 1:21:58.760
<v Speaker 4>and just get like some equipment that you need so

1:21:58.760 --> 1:21:59.719
<v Speaker 4>you canna work at your crib.

1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you're gonna come to my house.

1:22:01.720 --> 1:22:04.280
<v Speaker 4>So just whatever you need, bro, just get it and

1:22:04.320 --> 1:22:06.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna take care of it, he said.

1:22:06.400 --> 1:22:08.519
<v Speaker 1>For really. I was like, yeah, Bro, it's up.

1:22:09.520 --> 1:22:13.040
<v Speaker 4>I said, hey, So that's the first thing I did,

1:22:13.280 --> 1:22:16.559
<v Speaker 4>was I hit to care of your people. That my peoples.

1:22:16.800 --> 1:22:18.679
<v Speaker 4>I went to the mall to get a new phone

1:22:19.439 --> 1:22:23.240
<v Speaker 4>and literally that day. That's all I bought was a

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<v Speaker 4>brand new phone because I needed one. And from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what you what you made as a

1:22:31.439 --> 1:22:34.960
<v Speaker 2>producer in antony? Like, what was it like when y'all

1:22:35.000 --> 1:22:36.679
<v Speaker 2>was working on her album?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Yeah, did you get a producer's feet started? I

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<v Speaker 1>got five K, five thousand, five thou by the time, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well five thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Felt like five meal. Yeah at the time, I got

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<v Speaker 4>paid five K. And it it hit.

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<v Speaker 1>We needs to hit. I'll say that. It always it hit,

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<v Speaker 1>was done it all And.

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<v Speaker 4>I was weeding on this listen. I was man, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>I was on this cruise ship, bro, but.

1:23:09.800 --> 1:23:12.280
<v Speaker 1>You was taking cruises. It was just you should have

1:23:12.280 --> 1:23:15.479
<v Speaker 1>been taking cruises, bro. Broke niggas can't cruise facts, bro.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know why he was on that cruise

1:23:16.960 --> 1:23:19.040
<v Speaker 4>because I was a broke nigg on the cruise. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know a lot.

1:23:19.760 --> 1:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't friends then I would have told you

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<v Speaker 1>not to go, bro. It was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a situation with my son's mother and

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<v Speaker 4>we were trying to figure it out at the time

1:23:30.400 --> 1:23:32.559
<v Speaker 4>on the cruise and she was like, let's go on

1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:38.960
<v Speaker 4>this cruise. I said, why a cruise for all right, man,

1:23:39.320 --> 1:23:43.479
<v Speaker 4>So we're going that cruise. She going at me too,

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<v Speaker 4>boy like on that cruise, like on the last day,

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<v Speaker 4>I had like forty three dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>You keep man, you was staying under one hundred this

1:23:54.920 --> 1:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>nigga ship. I ain't gonna lie. Segue, not segue, but

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<v Speaker 1>hold on co commercial from that, just boom, fourtree dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I've been that way, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen.

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<v Speaker 4>When I worked at ups Man, I did doubles, triples,

1:24:10.120 --> 1:24:14.920
<v Speaker 4>doing Christmas break man, child support came and got me.

1:24:15.000 --> 1:24:21.919
<v Speaker 4>Man right, look my check that whole week. I'm busting

1:24:21.960 --> 1:24:32.439
<v Speaker 4>my ass, bro, thirty four dollars before Christmas. They call

1:24:32.520 --> 1:24:40.200
<v Speaker 4>that garnishing. Definitely show I know about garnishing. Garnish, king,

1:24:43.160 --> 1:24:47.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't, hey, hey, but but anyway back to that

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<v Speaker 4>so and so, look, I look at my account of

1:24:50.840 --> 1:24:55.599
<v Speaker 4>my phone. I've seen that five thousand dollars and about

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<v Speaker 4>forty three dollars with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, so good, so good. If you don't

1:25:05.120 --> 1:25:07.559
<v Speaker 2>have it, it's all good. Button in this business. It's

1:25:07.600 --> 1:25:08.960
<v Speaker 2>not for you, it's all good.

1:25:09.280 --> 1:25:13.479
<v Speaker 1>At some point, I call it a fucking switch, big

1:25:13.520 --> 1:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>fuck it, nigga. I'm quick to be like, fuck it

1:25:16.439 --> 1:25:20.880
<v Speaker 1>fuck it. Oh, I'm on that right now. I'm right now.

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<v Speaker 4>It because it can translate into different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I can't. I can't control it. I can't. It's

1:25:27.360 --> 1:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>nothing I can do.

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck it, bro, it's chop. That's why I say, Man,

1:25:33.000 --> 1:25:35.120
<v Speaker 4>it's drive me crazy, it's chop.

1:25:36.360 --> 1:25:37.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm good, all right.

1:25:37.520 --> 1:25:40.400
<v Speaker 2>So we're cracking out though now we were number one.

1:25:41.600 --> 1:25:43.760
<v Speaker 2>We got the big bag, not the little one. I

1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:45.559
<v Speaker 2>got money in my pocket though, you know what I mean.

1:25:45.680 --> 1:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, my phone is staying on consistently. Yeah, yay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now are you going fully along the ride with Cardi? Like?

1:25:57.520 --> 1:26:00.439
<v Speaker 1>Are you outside with her? Are you? Are you just standing?

1:26:01.040 --> 1:26:02.400
<v Speaker 3>At the time, it was, it was it was a

1:26:02.439 --> 1:26:03.519
<v Speaker 3>family thing. It was a team thing.

1:26:04.000 --> 1:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>So we all moving together.

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<v Speaker 4>Together, and sometimes when one move together, I'm forcing myself

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<v Speaker 4>in the equation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm j whit.

1:26:11.840 --> 1:26:13.479
<v Speaker 4>You know I'm with y'all. Right, you know I did it.

1:26:13.560 --> 1:26:15.519
<v Speaker 4>You know I did that. Like I'm actually with y'all.

1:26:15.520 --> 1:26:18.040
<v Speaker 4>You know I made the beat, right, y'all know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here too. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, when when I first when that song first debuted

1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:27.000
<v Speaker 4>on BT of the Awards, Bro, they was there in

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<v Speaker 4>l A.

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<v Speaker 1>Well in l A.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Dallas. I said, hold on, now, why

1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:36.080
<v Speaker 4>am I not there? And y'all there in the song

1:26:36.200 --> 1:26:40.160
<v Speaker 4>out I made the beat. I sold some bees real

1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:42.519
<v Speaker 4>quick and flew. I didn't care what I sold them for.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to mount for a ticket and I can't

1:26:47.360 --> 1:26:49.679
<v Speaker 4>And I blew my ass on there. I said, Chef,

1:26:50.000 --> 1:26:52.040
<v Speaker 4>where y'all staying at wow J?

1:26:52.360 --> 1:26:53.800
<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm here, I'm in LA.

1:26:55.600 --> 1:26:57.680
<v Speaker 4>I stepped on the floor that day, I said, on

1:26:57.680 --> 1:27:00.960
<v Speaker 4>the floor, Bro, But I put myself in that mixed though. Yeah,

1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:06.599
<v Speaker 4>I ain't care, but yeah, we moved around for that time. Yeah,

1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:10.639
<v Speaker 4>whatever concert she was doing, whatever show she was doing, like.

1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I was, it did just the follow ups of it, bro,

1:27:14.120 --> 1:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Like y'all was in a pocket.

1:27:17.560 --> 1:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I like it. When I like it hit, I was like,

1:27:20.400 --> 1:27:21.519
<v Speaker 1>oh my, because you have to share.

1:27:22.680 --> 1:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>This is how our paths are crossing too, okay, right,

1:27:25.200 --> 1:27:27.719
<v Speaker 2>because I already talked about obviously the Kansas City connection,

1:27:28.479 --> 1:27:31.559
<v Speaker 2>and you know, pretty much being family with y'all. You

1:27:31.560 --> 1:27:33.880
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like, I'm from the Bay, but

1:27:34.120 --> 1:27:37.160
<v Speaker 2>I got family. I consider the guys I know from

1:27:37.200 --> 1:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>KC family. You know what I mean, and even our

1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:42.639
<v Speaker 2>relationship that we built together, Like my god, bro, man,

1:27:45.640 --> 1:27:48.639
<v Speaker 2>we also had our label at Atlantic at the time,

1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:50.799
<v Speaker 2>R and B R and B Money.

1:27:50.920 --> 1:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>It was at Atlantic. It was Atlantic, you know what

1:27:53.040 --> 1:27:56.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So that's where we really, that's where we started.

1:27:56.560 --> 1:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>R and B Money. Shout out to Atlantic. Shout out

1:27:59.720 --> 1:28:00.519
<v Speaker 1>team man.

1:28:00.720 --> 1:28:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Listen, Julie Craig, Kaiser, Marcia, you know what I mean,

1:28:06.720 --> 1:28:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Like was there, Lonrey, Juliet cav Crespo, Man, come on, bro, yeah,

1:28:15.840 --> 1:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>the whole all the Artigianos, you like, man cracking like,

1:28:21.280 --> 1:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>shout out to them people.

1:28:22.560 --> 1:28:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Met Larcia, yeah, man, all of them. If I'm forgetting you,

1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:29.519
<v Speaker 1>it's because you know what I mean, all y'all fire.

1:28:29.640 --> 1:28:34.479
<v Speaker 2>I super super super super appreciate Atlantic, Atlantic Records, in

1:28:34.520 --> 1:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>that team there, man, and for what they helped us

1:28:38.240 --> 1:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>build and.

1:28:38.720 --> 1:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Create with all the money there. Amazing. It was an

1:28:42.120 --> 1:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>amazing time. Man. Mike Hamilton, like Mike Hamilton, people broke, Yeah, Man,

1:28:48.200 --> 1:28:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I love Mike. Oh yeah, I love Mike Laron like Nigga.

1:28:54.479 --> 1:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm remember every.

1:28:56.240 --> 1:29:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Will like Nigga. We was really on the road, man.

1:29:00.600 --> 1:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>This is this is when I.

1:29:01.840 --> 1:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Am fully in management mode. You know, when I'm that's what.

1:29:05.520 --> 1:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>That's what.

1:29:05.960 --> 1:29:09.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm not singing no more. I ain't writing for nobody

1:29:09.680 --> 1:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>else but Tank Manager. So we're on the road, written

1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>the vehicle, driving, see the city, dealing with everybody in

1:29:18.160 --> 1:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>every in all these departments. I remember going to an

1:29:21.960 --> 1:29:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Atlantic event in New York.

1:29:25.720 --> 1:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh are you saying?

1:29:27.479 --> 1:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>And Carti B performing and I may still have a

1:29:32.240 --> 1:29:34.639
<v Speaker 2>clip of it on my computer song because I because

1:29:34.680 --> 1:29:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, oh yeah, because.

1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I had seen her on the internet original Cardi where

1:29:39.280 --> 1:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>she was just funny, cracking jokes, no songs, she was

1:29:43.680 --> 1:29:47.439
<v Speaker 1>just Cardi B funny, like Nigga Icebreak. She's hilarious. I

1:29:47.520 --> 1:29:49.639
<v Speaker 1>love this girl. She's special, Nigga.

1:29:49.720 --> 1:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>She got up there and she was like, I'm about

1:29:54.200 --> 1:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>to perform for all you rich motherfuckers.

1:29:57.520 --> 1:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I need y'all to make some noise. And I was like,

1:30:00.160 --> 1:30:00.839
<v Speaker 1>she's the greatest.

1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:30:02.680 --> 1:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, she's the fucking greatest. She's amazing. She

1:30:05.320 --> 1:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>got up there and killed, yeah, man and killed. And

1:30:08.880 --> 1:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>this was this was.

1:30:09.680 --> 1:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Early, early, and I was like, Nigga, she special, she

1:30:13.680 --> 1:30:16.320
<v Speaker 2>gets it. This is a real thing. And then just

1:30:16.320 --> 1:30:19.120
<v Speaker 2>over time and then running to her at Julie Green

1:30:19.160 --> 1:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Wall's fiftieth birthday.

1:30:21.320 --> 1:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>She walked in. Bro. She she had a little tank

1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:31.759
<v Speaker 1>top on, some stretch pants and like some furry Gucci

1:30:32.000 --> 1:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>or Chaneo sandals. This was like pretty much damn near

1:30:35.960 --> 1:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>a black type bit and she knew it.

1:30:38.880 --> 1:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>And she was like, I know, I know, I know

1:30:41.200 --> 1:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the fun I got on. I know that right, But

1:30:43.479 --> 1:30:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't missing this ship. I was coming from somewhere

1:30:46.800 --> 1:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and I had to stop by.

1:30:48.560 --> 1:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, real one she is though. She is.

1:30:53.240 --> 1:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Though I don't know Cardi well, Like I said, I

1:30:55.360 --> 1:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>met her in passing. I'm a fan. Carty Cardi b

1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:05.840
<v Speaker 2>is a fucking superstar. She's one of one. Yes, for

1:31:05.920 --> 1:31:07.839
<v Speaker 2>who she is, She's super.

1:31:07.840 --> 1:31:16.000
<v Speaker 4>Nobody's like her star, superstar, special, generational, generational.

1:31:17.400 --> 1:31:19.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, bro, she's going down in history for sure.

1:31:19.760 --> 1:31:21.639
<v Speaker 2>She's down in the historycause y'all end up in the Grammy

1:31:21.680 --> 1:31:23.120
<v Speaker 2>for that project and everything, right.

1:31:23.120 --> 1:31:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for the project. We ain't win a boat act though.

1:31:25.160 --> 1:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Man about all right?

1:31:27.120 --> 1:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>You know he still listen, we can't. We can't get

1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>them all, Bro, why not that two things can be true?

1:31:34.600 --> 1:31:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Because you still want to?

1:31:35.880 --> 1:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Why not? Like because I wanted all here we go,

1:31:40.000 --> 1:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't like nothing. Way they leave the food out

1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:43.599
<v Speaker 1>damn yeh point.

1:31:43.720 --> 1:31:46.719
<v Speaker 2>See it's tricky, bro, niggas be some point you don't

1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>know what then people do when they standing over that food,

1:31:48.880 --> 1:31:53.160
<v Speaker 2>calling and doing whatever they do, you know whatever. Now

1:31:53.240 --> 1:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>y'all cracking the show. Jay White's name is out there.

1:31:56.040 --> 1:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>You're not just a nigga that sold a beat on

1:31:57.640 --> 1:32:03.160
<v Speaker 2>the internet. A damn and you got and you got

1:32:03.200 --> 1:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>a bag of money. Man, I did what's next after that?

1:32:06.760 --> 1:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>In your mind of like, okay, what do I gotta

1:32:09.920 --> 1:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>get on? I have no clue, no clue at all,

1:32:13.040 --> 1:32:16.800
<v Speaker 2>no plan, no plan. I said, I wanted to make it.

1:32:18.080 --> 1:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I did. Now I'm here, I'm here, what I do

1:32:20.960 --> 1:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>what I do?

1:32:21.439 --> 1:32:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Now you start looking around, But are you getting Are

1:32:25.800 --> 1:32:28.559
<v Speaker 2>you getting all the phone calls from the industry now

1:32:29.120 --> 1:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>or no?

1:32:31.240 --> 1:32:36.559
<v Speaker 1>No, so you're not even getting not really? No. Why

1:32:36.560 --> 1:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>do you think that is? Because that's not normal? You know,

1:32:40.760 --> 1:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you do know that that's not normal? Now, you do

1:32:42.479 --> 1:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>know that, right? I didn't know.

1:32:44.880 --> 1:32:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Craig didn't meet me, And I agree with you. Craig

1:32:47.160 --> 1:32:50.240
<v Speaker 4>didn't meet me till you we went number one at

1:32:50.280 --> 1:32:54.479
<v Speaker 4>the party. At the number one party, when when they's

1:32:54.520 --> 1:32:57.120
<v Speaker 4>present the plat Hey, Craig, no they did it?

1:32:57.439 --> 1:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Is that why you called yourself? J White? Did it? No?

1:32:59.840 --> 1:33:02.920
<v Speaker 4>Been that I already been there. But but listen, I

1:33:03.320 --> 1:33:06.240
<v Speaker 4>literally I was, man, who Ron Stu?

1:33:07.200 --> 1:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Who?

1:33:07.560 --> 1:33:11.000
<v Speaker 4>Also, that's my dog? Come on, come on now you're

1:33:11.000 --> 1:33:15.680
<v Speaker 4>helping me. Come on, come on, man, I can't forget Rod.

1:33:15.760 --> 1:33:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Stu also calls me after damn near every podcast that drops,

1:33:21.000 --> 1:33:22.439
<v Speaker 2>O watch every week.

1:33:23.160 --> 1:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>It's my brother. That's my brother.

1:33:25.920 --> 1:33:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Ron has been listening. Ry has been nothing but a valid.

1:33:29.120 --> 1:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, I pull up on you. We were

1:33:32.760 --> 1:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>were there and Ron, he said, Yo, have you met

1:33:34.800 --> 1:33:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Craig yet? That sounds like that, he said. He said,

1:33:39.560 --> 1:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>come on, let's go. Craig.

1:33:41.240 --> 1:33:43.360
<v Speaker 3>You're right there. He said, Craig, do you know what

1:33:43.479 --> 1:33:44.519
<v Speaker 3>J White is?

1:33:44.880 --> 1:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

1:33:47.280 --> 1:33:50.080
<v Speaker 3>He's a guy who made but that yellow. Oh really.

1:33:51.680 --> 1:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Nice to meet you? Well blah, I said, yeah, nice

1:33:54.320 --> 1:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to meet you. Did you know who Craig was? Not really?

1:33:57.280 --> 1:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But I know he's a boss. Okay, you know what

1:33:59.200 --> 1:33:59.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

1:34:00.200 --> 1:34:04.160
<v Speaker 4>But I didn't know Craig and so until he Craig

1:34:04.240 --> 1:34:07.920
<v Speaker 4>like that's my guy, now, like that's that's the music guy.

1:34:08.120 --> 1:34:11.760
<v Speaker 4>It's a music guy. Man, that's my that's my guy.

1:34:12.680 --> 1:34:16.360
<v Speaker 4>After that, Craig, he said, hey, meet me in my office.

1:34:17.479 --> 1:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:34:17.840 --> 1:34:21.240
<v Speaker 4>And after that it was just it was up from there.

1:34:21.960 --> 1:34:24.719
<v Speaker 4>And then he said, man, I got these Latin records. Man,

1:34:25.240 --> 1:34:28.120
<v Speaker 4>I got these Latin records. I think it should flip

1:34:28.120 --> 1:34:31.759
<v Speaker 4>for CARDI come to my house. Well, so I always

1:34:31.760 --> 1:34:34.519
<v Speaker 4>got some. You know, he got a billion records. Bro,

1:34:35.120 --> 1:34:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Bro he got to so I go to his crib.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>It's late, man, I'm dozen. He's going through tracks, going

1:34:43.479 --> 1:34:46.040
<v Speaker 4>through songs of simple. He said, which one? I said,

1:34:47.600 --> 1:34:51.839
<v Speaker 4>maybe track eleven. When he get to it, I hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like you, I like you like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, that's the one, I said. He said, yeah,

1:35:01.600 --> 1:35:05.360
<v Speaker 4>it's like, yeah, that's the one. From there, it was

1:35:05.400 --> 1:35:08.280
<v Speaker 4>a long journey to get to it. Like we started

1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:10.280
<v Speaker 4>working on it. It took a long time to you know.

1:35:10.360 --> 1:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>To get it right. Yeah, for sure. But that came

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<v Speaker 1>from Craig.

1:35:14.120 --> 1:35:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Craig, but show he told Tank to uh to record.

1:35:18.600 --> 1:35:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Bonnie Raid, I Can't make you Love Me?

1:35:20.560 --> 1:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>What which Now, in the black community, most black people

1:35:23.920 --> 1:35:26.800
<v Speaker 2>think I can't make you love me Tank song, It's

1:35:26.840 --> 1:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>not it was right, it's Bonnie Ray's record and it's

1:35:31.040 --> 1:35:35.320
<v Speaker 2>been covered probably about fifteen twenty times, but his version just.

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<v Speaker 4>It just damn, that's not thank song. No, oh, you're hilarious.

1:35:41.040 --> 1:35:45.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm mad you told me that it's a lot of versions.

1:35:45.680 --> 1:35:46.880
<v Speaker 4>Prince actually has a version.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Craig common though, is like, you should record this.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a now you got a ear. He's so important

1:35:57.280 --> 1:36:01.160
<v Speaker 4>for music. Yeah, he is and and very important. I

1:36:01.160 --> 1:36:06.439
<v Speaker 4>love Craig and Craig needs to always be in music, Yes,

1:36:06.840 --> 1:36:10.160
<v Speaker 4>he always needs to be here. And Julie, yeah, and

1:36:10.400 --> 1:36:11.479
<v Speaker 4>Kiz and Cas.

1:36:12.320 --> 1:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I just talked to ky the other day. How's he doing.

1:36:14.400 --> 1:36:16.240
<v Speaker 1>He's good. Kais is a movie you though.

1:36:16.240 --> 1:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I had to call him and congratulate him because the

1:36:17.920 --> 1:36:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Nicks won, and you know, because he's been fighting through it.

1:36:21.280 --> 1:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>He even fighting through it. He be you know.

1:36:22.439 --> 1:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he spent a lot of money on tickets

1:36:23.880 --> 1:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>all the views, and that's turned me up. Man, Kyles

1:36:28.000 --> 1:36:30.360
<v Speaker 2>turns everyone up. I was in his office one time.

1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>He said, hey, man, you want a haircut?

1:36:33.960 --> 1:36:37.040
<v Speaker 4>I said yeah, he called us Barbara. I got my

1:36:37.120 --> 1:36:42.880
<v Speaker 4>haircut in his office. I said, oh I didn't made it, okay, cause.

1:36:43.320 --> 1:36:45.640
<v Speaker 2>My boy and I got a shout at Manuel and

1:36:45.760 --> 1:36:49.479
<v Speaker 2>Manuel the greatest video commissioner of all time. Mom, I'm

1:36:49.520 --> 1:36:52.719
<v Speaker 2>still I'm still going, Grace James Marketing.

1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.519
<v Speaker 3>See now you now you're gonna bum my head?

1:36:55.640 --> 1:36:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now you know it's that was That's family, bro,

1:36:59.800 --> 1:37:02.439
<v Speaker 2>I really did Atlantic is family if they are, bro.

1:37:02.560 --> 1:37:04.680
<v Speaker 4>I really bro. When we when she got signed there,

1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:06.360
<v Speaker 4>I say we if I feel like we all got

1:37:06.400 --> 1:37:10.000
<v Speaker 4>sign which got signed, but we would go up there,

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry Bryant, Now who still going?

1:37:13.200 --> 1:37:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Damn?

1:37:13.840 --> 1:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm still going. Juliett, I said, Juliette, you did yes.

1:37:17.280 --> 1:37:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, we loved you yet. By the way, I would

1:37:19.800 --> 1:37:21.640
<v Speaker 4>buy donuts from across the street.

1:37:21.400 --> 1:37:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of you before we even go further. So Juliette

1:37:24.680 --> 1:37:27.120
<v Speaker 2>is the reason for R and B Money podcasts really

1:37:27.280 --> 1:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>being where it is.

1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Juliette.

1:37:29.160 --> 1:37:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Juliet told them people, Yeah, I better do a deal

1:37:35.160 --> 1:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>with Jay in tank.

1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:41.559
<v Speaker 1>She you out your damn mind. You don't real. Shout

1:37:41.560 --> 1:37:42.559
<v Speaker 1>out to my dogar.

1:37:42.400 --> 1:37:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Shout out to Juliet She's real too. Juliette. She she

1:37:49.080 --> 1:37:52.559
<v Speaker 4>gonna always wherever she at, look out for people for sure.

1:37:53.200 --> 1:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>For sure, I loved you yet you finally met Craig yeah.

1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>But so, but as this is all happening, you're saying

1:38:09.840 --> 1:38:12.759
<v Speaker 2>that nobody's beating your door down.

1:38:13.800 --> 1:38:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Nobody, nobody know me.

1:38:15.800 --> 1:38:19.040
<v Speaker 2>See I told you, nigga, I'm like, know me. I

1:38:19.120 --> 1:38:23.040
<v Speaker 2>told you what they was saying you was. So you're

1:38:23.080 --> 1:38:24.720
<v Speaker 2>not even getting no new placements.

1:38:24.760 --> 1:38:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's Like.

1:38:28.479 --> 1:38:33.240
<v Speaker 4>At the time before I got before I signed with Sam,

1:38:33.560 --> 1:38:36.759
<v Speaker 4>you know Ryan pressure, you know Ryan of course, cool smooth,

1:38:37.320 --> 1:38:42.320
<v Speaker 4>you know man, Ryan, he was taking me around and

1:38:42.400 --> 1:38:46.400
<v Speaker 4>getting me like sessions and whatnot. So I did have

1:38:46.439 --> 1:38:49.360
<v Speaker 4>a song with Tnache at the time coming, but it

1:38:49.439 --> 1:38:55.839
<v Speaker 4>was on an album and you know, but other than that, nothing, man.

1:38:55.920 --> 1:39:02.520
<v Speaker 2>So what comes after after what after invasion? A privacy album?

1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:06.960
<v Speaker 4>After that album is going for you? Well, are you

1:39:07.040 --> 1:39:08.639
<v Speaker 4>just waiting to go to the next car.

1:39:09.040 --> 1:39:10.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to figure it out.

1:39:10.800 --> 1:39:13.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to figure it out, bro, because they don't

1:39:13.439 --> 1:39:15.600
<v Speaker 4>tell you, bro when you make it, bro, unless you

1:39:15.640 --> 1:39:20.080
<v Speaker 4>got a team. Because I had part of ways with Chef,

1:39:20.200 --> 1:39:24.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, and it wasn't nothing personal. It's just strictly business,

1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:28.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, And we couldn't agree on what it was.

1:39:28.240 --> 1:39:31.320
<v Speaker 4>And Chef he's always known me, he always knew what

1:39:31.360 --> 1:39:34.040
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna do anyway. You know, I'm here. I'm

1:39:34.080 --> 1:39:36.519
<v Speaker 4>here for the life, change the moment. I'm here to

1:39:36.880 --> 1:39:39.920
<v Speaker 4>go up and I love you, bro, you know what

1:39:39.960 --> 1:39:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean. Like, but he always knew that everybody got

1:39:43.000 --> 1:39:45.400
<v Speaker 4>what they had to get out of that situation.

1:39:45.280 --> 1:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

1:39:46.000 --> 1:39:48.920
<v Speaker 4>But I'm just trying to figure it out, bro. Like

1:39:49.479 --> 1:39:53.280
<v Speaker 4>at the time, no management, I'm trying to figure out

1:39:53.280 --> 1:39:53.719
<v Speaker 4>a lawyer.

1:39:54.920 --> 1:39:56.559
<v Speaker 1>You have none of that stuff in place. You know

1:39:56.640 --> 1:39:58.479
<v Speaker 1>what was with the biggest records in the world.

1:40:00.000 --> 1:40:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Didn't know what was going on. Ship, I didn't know

1:40:03.040 --> 1:40:04.920
<v Speaker 4>what was going on. So I was running through just

1:40:05.000 --> 1:40:08.880
<v Speaker 4>different people, you know what I mean, just trying to

1:40:08.920 --> 1:40:13.320
<v Speaker 4>find the right person. And then the here coms just

1:40:13.520 --> 1:40:15.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, this lady by the name of Sharene. She

1:40:16.240 --> 1:40:19.720
<v Speaker 4>was an assistant to uh, who's the CEO R R

1:40:19.840 --> 1:40:22.519
<v Speaker 4>C A, to Peter, to Peter Edge Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:40:23.320 --> 1:40:25.320
<v Speaker 4>She she had got me my blue check back in

1:40:25.320 --> 1:40:27.479
<v Speaker 4>the day on uh on Instagram.

1:40:27.560 --> 1:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:40:27.800 --> 1:40:31.040
<v Speaker 4>But she was always just like helping me. I said, Yo,

1:40:31.040 --> 1:40:33.439
<v Speaker 4>why don't you be my manager? She said, huh. I

1:40:33.520 --> 1:40:35.120
<v Speaker 4>said you should manage me.

1:40:35.840 --> 1:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Huh. She said, okay, it was up. She she smart.

1:40:43.400 --> 1:40:45.479
<v Speaker 1>She started figuring stuff out, huh. And we were just

1:40:45.479 --> 1:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>winging it like we Yeah, we winged it all the

1:40:49.960 --> 1:40:53.600
<v Speaker 1>way up. What's the next big record.

1:40:53.320 --> 1:40:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Big record? Well, you know, I did Money as well.

1:40:58.520 --> 1:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>But that was just a single in between single and

1:41:02.479 --> 1:41:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Cardiy was dropping singles.

1:41:03.840 --> 1:41:07.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but at the same time, me and d he did.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot at the same time as Money is all

1:41:11.200 --> 1:41:11.920
<v Speaker 4>around the same time.

1:41:12.000 --> 1:41:15.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You just can't just say a lot lot twenty

1:41:16.880 --> 1:41:19.280
<v Speaker 1>J cole war winning.

1:41:20.040 --> 1:41:22.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I want to say. Is that Jacob's only Grammy?

1:41:22.600 --> 1:41:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Which is might be? Which is why it might it

1:41:24.720 --> 1:41:26.920
<v Speaker 4>might be? I think that was tween one first Grammy too,

1:41:26.920 --> 1:41:33.200
<v Speaker 4>I believe Yeah, J White, DJ Ding, Yeah, show for

1:41:33.360 --> 1:41:34.760
<v Speaker 4>show and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it was.

1:41:37.080 --> 1:41:39.439
<v Speaker 4>It was up though by that time, though I haven't

1:41:39.479 --> 1:41:41.679
<v Speaker 4>figured it out a little bit. Okay, I have figured out,

1:41:41.680 --> 1:41:43.800
<v Speaker 4>but for a while I didn't know what was up

1:41:43.880 --> 1:41:44.240
<v Speaker 4>or down.

1:41:44.920 --> 1:41:47.599
<v Speaker 3>I ain't know. I was going crazy, like, I didn't

1:41:47.600 --> 1:41:48.040
<v Speaker 3>know what to do.

1:41:48.200 --> 1:41:50.320
<v Speaker 1>You had to really go and put the team together.

1:41:50.120 --> 1:41:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Man, I was I ain't know what to do.

1:41:51.960 --> 1:41:54.639
<v Speaker 4>Bro, I'm I'm being the money left and right trying

1:41:54.680 --> 1:41:57.040
<v Speaker 4>to figure it out. I had people, I had people

1:41:57.080 --> 1:41:58.760
<v Speaker 4>on my team consulting on.

1:41:58.720 --> 1:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>My team.

1:42:00.680 --> 1:42:03.400
<v Speaker 4>For what you were having consulting? Yeah, tell me nothing.

1:42:03.439 --> 1:42:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm paying them per month. Tell me nothing. I got

1:42:07.760 --> 1:42:11.559
<v Speaker 4>a PR person, I'm paying them, Yeah, PR two K

1:42:11.640 --> 1:42:12.040
<v Speaker 4>per month.

1:42:12.080 --> 1:42:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's do the matter. So that's forty five a month, right,

1:42:14.880 --> 1:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I hate there. Please swing your consultant in your PR.

1:42:18.160 --> 1:42:21.679
<v Speaker 1>That's yeah. And don't forget everything. Yeah, and that's before

1:42:21.680 --> 1:42:22.479
<v Speaker 1>you can get to your life.

1:42:22.680 --> 1:42:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm burning Oh yeah, yeah, burning.

1:42:24.760 --> 1:42:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Money being met himself, lowing money, fast.

1:42:27.800 --> 1:42:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Owing money, fast my boy here, bro, no lie twenty eighteen, Bro,

1:42:33.680 --> 1:42:34.479
<v Speaker 4>I got paid.

1:42:35.840 --> 1:42:38.120
<v Speaker 3>I had my advanced check for show.

1:42:39.520 --> 1:42:42.840
<v Speaker 4>But money I made up front twenty eighteen at the

1:42:42.880 --> 1:42:52.439
<v Speaker 4>boy that yellow fifteen k, fifteen K, my boy, and

1:42:52.479 --> 1:42:56.519
<v Speaker 4>that that was a tonight day five three zeros. Yeah, man,

1:42:56.920 --> 1:43:01.000
<v Speaker 4>fifteen thousand that whole year. Oh yeah, that's what I made.

1:43:03.439 --> 1:43:06.200
<v Speaker 4>So I made, Bro, That's what I made. And so

1:43:06.280 --> 1:43:07.200
<v Speaker 4>do you do you?

1:43:08.880 --> 1:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm? Give me one second, man, please man, give why

1:43:12.720 --> 1:43:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you do that?

1:43:13.000 --> 1:43:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm giving me a drinking at Why.

1:43:15.960 --> 1:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you attribute that to you just not paying attention

1:43:19.960 --> 1:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>to the business early on?

1:43:21.960 --> 1:43:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought I knew what I didn't know. I

1:43:25.320 --> 1:43:28.439
<v Speaker 4>didn't know nothing in the real world of this.

1:43:28.720 --> 1:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's to tear you up, and you were just

1:43:30.680 --> 1:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>signing bad deals. What's it a bad deal? I'm asking you. No, No,

1:43:34.920 --> 1:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I ain't signed a bad deal, noning like that. I'm

1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:38.000
<v Speaker 1>just out here just trying to figure it out. If

1:43:38.000 --> 1:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the money wasn't coming to you though the money was

1:43:41.160 --> 1:43:42.280
<v Speaker 1>going to somebody.

1:43:42.000 --> 1:43:46.519
<v Speaker 4>I had, No, it wasn't collected yet. Okay, so you

1:43:46.560 --> 1:43:49.240
<v Speaker 4>know how you know? That's why that's why I asked

1:43:49.360 --> 1:43:51.639
<v Speaker 4>yet it wasn't collected yet.

1:43:51.800 --> 1:43:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Yeah, I'm thinking you're saying no, okay, no nobody.

1:43:57.760 --> 1:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>That's why. That's why I lost my mind. That's why pause, brother,

1:44:02.720 --> 1:44:06.599
<v Speaker 1>But still not even about hell no, right because sometime,

1:44:06.680 --> 1:44:11.439
<v Speaker 1>like you said, not knowing what you don't know? Yeah, bro, And.

1:44:13.800 --> 1:44:18.519
<v Speaker 2>We're after success, we're after opportunity, and sometimes we're making

1:44:18.600 --> 1:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>bad choices a lot, and when that success does come,

1:44:24.439 --> 1:44:29.599
<v Speaker 2>we're not prepared for it. Are It's our success is

1:44:29.640 --> 1:44:34.280
<v Speaker 2>tied up in the opportunity that we were given and

1:44:34.320 --> 1:44:39.000
<v Speaker 2>now the finances don't match. So that's what I'm saying

1:44:39.080 --> 1:44:42.080
<v Speaker 2>at all, that can very much so happen, you know.

1:44:42.360 --> 1:44:44.240
<v Speaker 2>So that's why when you said that number to me,

1:44:44.280 --> 1:44:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, damn, was somebody else getting bro the bread.

1:44:48.320 --> 1:44:52.599
<v Speaker 4>Bro, listen I had. I was trying to figure it out. Look,

1:44:52.680 --> 1:44:59.639
<v Speaker 4>my my first accountant was my daughter's mother's cousin. That's

1:44:59.680 --> 1:45:03.760
<v Speaker 4>my friend accounting right right there. And I was just

1:45:03.840 --> 1:45:06.320
<v Speaker 4>trying to I ain't know what's going on. You like,

1:45:06.320 --> 1:45:10.920
<v Speaker 4>hey man, you burning your bread bro. And everybody said

1:45:10.920 --> 1:45:14.040
<v Speaker 4>when you put your first check, you're gonna burn through

1:45:14.040 --> 1:45:17.360
<v Speaker 4>the I'm like, it's in the wind. Yeah, burned, it's

1:45:17.360 --> 1:45:17.840
<v Speaker 4>in the wind.

1:45:17.960 --> 1:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Burns, I'm burned through. You don't eat the same no more? Yeah,

1:45:21.800 --> 1:45:23.439
<v Speaker 1>and Bill, you don't like that steak?

1:45:24.000 --> 1:45:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Fuck the bills were gonna get to the bills, because

1:45:25.600 --> 1:45:27.599
<v Speaker 2>the bills is just part of it. But here goes

1:45:27.640 --> 1:45:29.799
<v Speaker 2>the theories is the part that niggas don't talk about

1:45:30.600 --> 1:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>real shit. You started asking are things marblized? Can you

1:45:34.640 --> 1:45:36.720
<v Speaker 2>be like nigg I didn't realize. I don't even know

1:45:36.720 --> 1:45:40.719
<v Speaker 2>what that was. Wait, so Oscar style Nazi.

1:45:40.720 --> 1:45:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't need that. I don't do that. I don't

1:45:43.320 --> 1:45:43.639
<v Speaker 1>do that.

1:45:43.640 --> 1:45:46.160
<v Speaker 4>That happens though, that does happen to a lot of people,

1:45:46.400 --> 1:45:48.680
<v Speaker 4>But that wasn't me, you know me.

1:45:48.760 --> 1:45:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You know each one, one chicken side is like twenty

1:45:52.080 --> 1:45:52.960
<v Speaker 2>dollars that just.

1:45:53.040 --> 1:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>One of them. This is wild works. See, I don't

1:45:55.000 --> 1:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>eat no places brow Hey, this small a chicken.

1:45:59.320 --> 1:46:01.839
<v Speaker 2>But what I'm saying, and sometimes this happens too, because

1:46:02.760 --> 1:46:08.080
<v Speaker 2>as you're getting notoriety, people want to take you to

1:46:08.120 --> 1:46:10.880
<v Speaker 2>dinners and now your taste buzz get used to that.

1:46:10.880 --> 1:46:15.120
<v Speaker 1>For when you make your own money. Is that being

1:46:15.120 --> 1:46:19.360
<v Speaker 1>a lifestyle. It's a life. I had never eaten calamari,

1:46:19.720 --> 1:46:22.760
<v Speaker 1>for real in the bay. You know what. I had

1:46:22.800 --> 1:46:32.240
<v Speaker 1>never eaten calamari or sushi delicious, delicious. I didn't eat

1:46:32.560 --> 1:46:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't eat sushi until Harvey Mason Junior as we're

1:46:39.160 --> 1:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>doing the mix for I like them girls. I love

1:46:44.240 --> 1:46:44.559
<v Speaker 1>that song.

1:46:44.600 --> 1:46:48.320
<v Speaker 2>By the way, thank you sir, and he orders a

1:46:48.360 --> 1:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>sushi platter for the studio because we're gonna be there,

1:46:52.080 --> 1:46:55.040
<v Speaker 2>yeah man, And I'm like, I ain't eating that, and

1:46:55.120 --> 1:47:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Harvey's like, hey, bro, hey buddy, and Harvey got it,

1:47:01.240 --> 1:47:03.320
<v Speaker 2>tried his buddy. No, none of us had it then,

1:47:03.680 --> 1:47:06.240
<v Speaker 2>No nigga, it was she was tricky. I liked him, girls.

1:47:06.720 --> 1:47:09.160
<v Speaker 2>That's the first Underdog record ever. No nobody had no bread.

1:47:09.479 --> 1:47:11.680
<v Speaker 2>They had a little bit of bread, but nobody had

1:47:11.680 --> 1:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>no bread.

1:47:12.080 --> 1:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Bread right.

1:47:13.000 --> 1:47:15.559
<v Speaker 2>But he was also you know, yeah he was. He

1:47:15.600 --> 1:47:18.880
<v Speaker 2>was more cultured, Yeah for sure. And he ordered a

1:47:18.920 --> 1:47:21.920
<v Speaker 2>sushi platter and I'm like, hell no.

1:47:22.200 --> 1:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, this a little California old. What's

1:47:26.200 --> 1:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>in that? I already like to say, okay, but try that.

1:47:30.520 --> 1:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>But between that and then going to I remember.

1:47:36.240 --> 1:47:41.920
<v Speaker 2>My first record deal, the VP takes me to eat

1:47:41.960 --> 1:47:45.680
<v Speaker 2>at La Petite four on Sunset and Sunset Plaza. Oh

1:47:45.800 --> 1:47:48.240
<v Speaker 2>that is okay, you can probably go there now. And

1:47:48.280 --> 1:47:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I've said it, and he ordered as an appetizer calamari.

1:47:52.880 --> 1:47:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what klamari is. I'm eighteen at the time,

1:47:56.120 --> 1:47:59.000
<v Speaker 2>or nineteen eighteen or nineteen. He orders it and I'm like,

1:47:59.560 --> 1:48:03.120
<v Speaker 2>what's that and he's like, and this is no. Actually,

1:48:03.160 --> 1:48:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I eat a piece first he said, what

1:48:06.800 --> 1:48:08.160
<v Speaker 2>is this chicken?

1:48:08.479 --> 1:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>What is this?

1:48:09.360 --> 1:48:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Showye like it's octa for somebody like Nigga. I didn't

1:48:14.439 --> 1:48:15.840
<v Speaker 2>like it because I didn't know, you didn't know what

1:48:15.840 --> 1:48:21.320
<v Speaker 2>it was. I ordered calimbar every time I go somewhere delicious.

1:48:21.360 --> 1:48:26.160
<v Speaker 2>But these are the things that are being set in

1:48:26.200 --> 1:48:28.160
<v Speaker 2>front of us when we're eating on the corporate car

1:48:28.720 --> 1:48:30.320
<v Speaker 2>because he's trying to sign me to a record deal.

1:48:30.320 --> 1:48:30.800
<v Speaker 1>At the time.

1:48:31.120 --> 1:48:32.840
<v Speaker 2>So when I get my deal or when I do

1:48:32.960 --> 1:48:36.920
<v Speaker 2>this next deal, I ordered Calimbar for me and my friends.

1:48:37.080 --> 1:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow, and that is how we go.

1:48:41.800 --> 1:48:44.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm with you on Thatt, that's part of it.

1:48:45.280 --> 1:48:47.800
<v Speaker 4>That's how I spent a lot of money. Was I

1:48:47.880 --> 1:48:51.400
<v Speaker 4>gave it away? Yeah, gave it away much as I could.

1:48:51.720 --> 1:48:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I remember, I couldn't wait to go back to San

1:48:54.200 --> 1:48:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Francisco and take all the homies just just to go eat.

1:48:59.120 --> 1:49:01.960
<v Speaker 3>And you take the pizzas takes tab Yep.

1:49:02.200 --> 1:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd have spent three hundred dollars on pizza. Yep. I

1:49:05.000 --> 1:49:07.519
<v Speaker 1>couldn't because you got it. I thought I had it.

1:49:07.520 --> 1:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought you had it. You know what I mean?

1:49:09.280 --> 1:49:12.240
<v Speaker 1>You had been I had I had I had on me,

1:49:12.360 --> 1:49:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I had on me, you had on you. I had it.

1:49:14.439 --> 1:49:16.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna do it because it felt good. Yeah, yeah,

1:49:16.600 --> 1:49:18.479
<v Speaker 4>all right. So now, but you're rolling, So let's get

1:49:18.479 --> 1:49:19.240
<v Speaker 4>back to you.

1:49:19.920 --> 1:49:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I like it. You rolling, You're getting You're getting big,

1:49:22.880 --> 1:49:25.200
<v Speaker 1>You're getting big money. Fifteen thousand.

1:49:25.479 --> 1:49:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Now we passed that, we passed fifty that I heard

1:49:27.560 --> 1:49:29.960
<v Speaker 2>about fifties. But now you didn't did like a lot.

1:49:30.400 --> 1:49:33.519
<v Speaker 2>You didn't did a lot. Yeah, for sure, what's the

1:49:33.560 --> 1:49:35.599
<v Speaker 2>other money money? So that's a good year.

1:49:35.720 --> 1:49:38.240
<v Speaker 1>At this point, it's kicking, it's it's it's cracking for you.

1:49:38.280 --> 1:49:42.000
<v Speaker 2>And you're getting placements outside of because this is something

1:49:42.000 --> 1:49:46.519
<v Speaker 2>that happens with in house producers. People think, oh, but

1:49:46.600 --> 1:49:50.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe he can't do it for nobody else. So you

1:49:50.160 --> 1:49:53.519
<v Speaker 2>going and getting a Grammy huge record with twenty one

1:49:53.560 --> 1:49:54.479
<v Speaker 2>and j Cole.

1:49:54.560 --> 1:49:57.599
<v Speaker 1>That was great. I'm sure woke it woke your game.

1:49:57.439 --> 1:50:01.080
<v Speaker 4>Up a little bit. Yeah yeah, yeah, a little bit,

1:50:02.000 --> 1:50:04.799
<v Speaker 4>but it was it was a tab bit, bro, because

1:50:05.720 --> 1:50:07.840
<v Speaker 4>human baby steps the whole time. Yeah, Bro, I've had

1:50:07.880 --> 1:50:11.040
<v Speaker 4>to hustle it through every time. And what do you

1:50:11.080 --> 1:50:12.920
<v Speaker 4>think that is wild?

1:50:12.920 --> 1:50:14.120
<v Speaker 1>What I said? What do you think that is? You

1:50:14.160 --> 1:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>think this is? Like? People don't they're not sure if

1:50:17.200 --> 1:50:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you can continue to keep show?

1:50:20.000 --> 1:50:24.000
<v Speaker 4>So many times always had the underdog look on me

1:50:24.160 --> 1:50:27.120
<v Speaker 4>like like it's almost like you can't.

1:50:27.520 --> 1:50:30.679
<v Speaker 1>I just know you can't do it. Your beer looks

1:50:30.720 --> 1:50:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like you make its bro, I'm just saying it.

1:50:36.080 --> 1:50:37.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, I can't grow one, so I gotta you know,

1:50:38.640 --> 1:50:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I shout out, I shout.

1:50:39.600 --> 1:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Out the player. Can't you know the Valentine is a player.

1:50:42.760 --> 1:50:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a hate at all, you know.

1:50:44.360 --> 1:50:46.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when I see something fresh, I say, hey, man,

1:50:46.080 --> 1:50:50.439
<v Speaker 2>look beer your beard man, right, yeah, just doing something.

1:50:50.800 --> 1:50:54.559
<v Speaker 4>You're crazy, man, you got to rich nigga beer really man,

1:50:54.560 --> 1:50:56.679
<v Speaker 4>shout to my barber, Man Malone.

1:50:56.680 --> 1:50:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

1:50:57.240 --> 1:50:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I ain't had a cutting like two days though, you.

1:50:59.720 --> 1:51:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Can on the R and B Money podcast. Wanted to cut, Bro.

1:51:02.720 --> 1:51:05.120
<v Speaker 1>It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. You know how you

1:51:05.160 --> 1:51:08.479
<v Speaker 1>have a barber, bro and my Barbara lives in Dallas.

1:51:08.479 --> 1:51:10.400
<v Speaker 4>Man Vincent barber this, and I want to go see

1:51:10.479 --> 1:51:13.439
<v Speaker 4>him this. This is Yeah, it's kind of hard to

1:51:13.560 --> 1:51:16.080
<v Speaker 4>leave your people. You're flying out with you.

1:51:17.120 --> 1:51:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, my barber leaves me, I don't leave him. He

1:51:19.760 --> 1:51:20.559
<v Speaker 1>you know my barber.

1:51:21.040 --> 1:51:23.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, so I gotta I gotta go to

1:51:23.479 --> 1:51:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Paris and cut for there.

1:51:25.560 --> 1:51:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Nigga, what I'm supposed to do? What do you do?

1:51:28.840 --> 1:51:32.760
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco Giant hat They've seen it a couple of

1:51:32.800 --> 1:51:35.160
<v Speaker 2>times on this podcast. If you see me with an

1:51:35.320 --> 1:51:38.280
<v Speaker 2>SF Giants hat on, you're like, oh, Vince is out

1:51:38.280 --> 1:51:38.599
<v Speaker 2>of town?

1:51:38.760 --> 1:51:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Is that? Bro? So you put a hat on?

1:51:41.320 --> 1:51:42.960
<v Speaker 4>And I actually got here, by the way, I was

1:51:42.960 --> 1:51:45.439
<v Speaker 4>wear a hat, but I got I got a nice

1:51:45.520 --> 1:51:46.120
<v Speaker 4>look greater hair.

1:51:46.240 --> 1:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I got a nice little something something hanging on

1:51:49.160 --> 1:51:50.759
<v Speaker 1>or you got here, I got here.

1:51:50.680 --> 1:51:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Now, okay, all right, listen, don't you know you won't

1:51:53.680 --> 1:51:54.640
<v Speaker 2>be disrespected.

1:51:54.720 --> 1:51:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're gonna wear it right there too.

1:51:57.920 --> 1:52:01.519
<v Speaker 4>Don't do me like that, baby, don't do me with

1:52:01.680 --> 1:52:07.840
<v Speaker 4>the your saying. I'm still here with listen. I respect

1:52:07.840 --> 1:52:10.400
<v Speaker 4>you because I'm an uncle here too. So now we're

1:52:10.400 --> 1:52:11.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna definitely show it.

1:52:11.320 --> 1:52:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Hey, no grades up in there now, I respect it.

1:52:17.160 --> 1:52:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Put it back down. I respect. Let's get back to Okay,

1:52:19.960 --> 1:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>so let's get hit back to these hits. So then

1:52:23.120 --> 1:52:23.639
<v Speaker 1>you go.

1:52:25.640 --> 1:52:27.680
<v Speaker 2>And we're not going in a certain time because now

1:52:27.680 --> 1:52:29.200
<v Speaker 2>we're just talking here. You got a game, so we're

1:52:29.200 --> 1:52:33.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna just talk now. It's Meg thee Stallion Savage.

1:52:34.400 --> 1:52:37.919
<v Speaker 1>How it happened? Right? That happened?

1:52:41.080 --> 1:52:44.400
<v Speaker 4>First of all, I d m mad on Instagram. This

1:52:44.520 --> 1:52:47.519
<v Speaker 4>guy even start. I need to work with you. Yeah,

1:52:47.560 --> 1:52:49.600
<v Speaker 4>that's you do eighteen man. She's in Houston. She was

1:52:49.600 --> 1:52:52.720
<v Speaker 4>going up. I said, yo, because I always want to

1:52:52.760 --> 1:52:56.400
<v Speaker 4>just outdo myself. I'm like, man, yo, she got it

1:52:56.479 --> 1:52:59.439
<v Speaker 4>like whatever. We just became. I just text on her, Yo,

1:52:59.479 --> 1:53:01.240
<v Speaker 4>we got you kept missing each other.

1:53:01.280 --> 1:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to work with you.

1:53:02.000 --> 1:53:02.439
<v Speaker 3>I want to work.

1:53:02.479 --> 1:53:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's work. She said, hell, yes, it's work. And and uh,

1:53:06.360 --> 1:53:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you're living in Dallas at this point. Yea. Yeah.

1:53:08.360 --> 1:53:10.960
<v Speaker 2>So when you when you get back cracking and it

1:53:11.040 --> 1:53:13.679
<v Speaker 2>and it kicks off in New York.

1:53:15.240 --> 1:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Eventually you get back to Dallas. Hell yeah, about a

1:53:17.640 --> 1:53:20.639
<v Speaker 1>year or so. Yeah, money gonna go longer.

1:53:21.479 --> 1:53:24.719
<v Speaker 4>Taxes, yeah, man, and I see what you doing. Twenty nineteen.

1:53:24.920 --> 1:53:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I went at me.

1:53:26.760 --> 1:53:28.759
<v Speaker 4>I got me a little, you know, a little condo

1:53:28.840 --> 1:53:34.679
<v Speaker 4>on the water. Felt good, it felt great, sounds good,

1:53:34.760 --> 1:53:37.840
<v Speaker 4>It felt great. Man said, Man, this and Dallas is

1:53:37.920 --> 1:53:40.080
<v Speaker 4>fly a lot of rock with Dallas. I love Dallas,

1:53:40.080 --> 1:53:42.040
<v Speaker 4>man every place. I felt good.

1:53:42.200 --> 1:53:44.800
<v Speaker 1>So you DM and Meg, Yeah, you connect with her.

1:53:45.040 --> 1:53:47.639
<v Speaker 1>You're not working yet. No, we ain't working yet.

1:53:47.680 --> 1:53:49.519
<v Speaker 4>My first time working with her was I was with

1:53:49.600 --> 1:53:52.880
<v Speaker 4>Gucci and I was like, Yo, why don't you work

1:53:52.960 --> 1:53:56.599
<v Speaker 4>with Megan Stallion. She had a song out called Big

1:53:56.640 --> 1:53:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Old Freak at the time, and He's like damn.

1:54:00.640 --> 1:54:04.760
<v Speaker 1>He was like yeah, he's like damn. Hey he was.

1:54:04.920 --> 1:54:08.360
<v Speaker 1>He was like, Yo, can you get at her? I said, yeah,

1:54:08.400 --> 1:54:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm that's that's my dog. Like we be texting. I'm

1:54:11.240 --> 1:54:11.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna call it.

1:54:12.640 --> 1:54:15.360
<v Speaker 4>I called her. I said, Meg, you want you want

1:54:15.400 --> 1:54:18.360
<v Speaker 4>hopping this song with Gucci. It's a song called it

1:54:18.400 --> 1:54:22.080
<v Speaker 4>is a song we did call Big Booty. That was

1:54:22.120 --> 1:54:24.120
<v Speaker 4>the first time and my first time meet Meg was

1:54:24.160 --> 1:54:27.479
<v Speaker 4>at the video shoot in Miami, h that they did

1:54:27.520 --> 1:54:30.639
<v Speaker 4>for a Big Booty and whatnot. And and then from

1:54:30.640 --> 1:54:33.080
<v Speaker 4>there me and medg just got cool, do you place

1:54:33.120 --> 1:54:33.520
<v Speaker 4>the record?

1:54:33.520 --> 1:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Put her on a record? Y'all still hadn't met in

1:54:35.680 --> 1:54:39.480
<v Speaker 1>person into the video shoot. Yeah, And how I met

1:54:39.520 --> 1:54:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Gucci is through Lin Ray long line Ray connected that

1:54:42.520 --> 1:54:46.280
<v Speaker 1>we love, yeah love. Lin Ray sent me down to Miami.

1:54:46.120 --> 1:54:48.920
<v Speaker 4>To work with Wop and Wop just instantly, just like yo,

1:54:49.920 --> 1:54:53.560
<v Speaker 4>I fuck with you, bro, Like yeah yeah. But that's

1:54:53.560 --> 1:54:55.840
<v Speaker 4>when I it was just the dots started connecting, bro,

1:54:56.280 --> 1:55:02.000
<v Speaker 4>It just started connecting. But I went to Max Goose.

1:55:02.520 --> 1:55:06.240
<v Speaker 4>Max Gouse called me a Max Maxcouse.

1:55:06.240 --> 1:55:06.760
<v Speaker 1>He called me.

1:55:06.840 --> 1:55:09.400
<v Speaker 4>He said, hey, I want you to come out here

1:55:09.520 --> 1:55:11.280
<v Speaker 4>and work with my artists and what not.

1:55:11.520 --> 1:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And I said, for sure.

1:55:12.760 --> 1:55:16.960
<v Speaker 4>But can I bring my writer who I'm working with

1:55:17.040 --> 1:55:20.360
<v Speaker 4>right now, and pretty much you know, warrant don't want

1:55:20.360 --> 1:55:22.720
<v Speaker 4>to fly, you know, the person out you know, which

1:55:22.760 --> 1:55:25.640
<v Speaker 4>is Bobby's session. You know, shout out to him, and

1:55:27.560 --> 1:55:32.040
<v Speaker 4>I said, skip it. I fly by myself. Okay, I

1:55:32.040 --> 1:55:35.360
<v Speaker 4>don't care flying out we up, I don't care, you

1:55:35.440 --> 1:55:36.760
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. Well, it's a risk.

1:55:36.840 --> 1:55:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

1:55:37.400 --> 1:55:39.960
<v Speaker 4>It's like I'm gonna spend that money and if it

1:55:40.080 --> 1:55:46.120
<v Speaker 4>work out, it workout. Unfortunately, you know, it didn't work

1:55:46.160 --> 1:55:48.040
<v Speaker 4>out that trip, you know what I mean? For what

1:55:48.200 --> 1:55:51.840
<v Speaker 4>for what we did? But I come back to Cali

1:55:51.920 --> 1:55:56.760
<v Speaker 4>with Meg and I play Meg the idea.

1:55:56.920 --> 1:55:57.880
<v Speaker 1>That you have for it?

1:55:58.000 --> 1:56:04.120
<v Speaker 4>Uh huh okay, And that was savage, you know, And

1:56:04.200 --> 1:56:05.360
<v Speaker 4>she said, hold on what.

1:56:05.520 --> 1:56:07.960
<v Speaker 1>So Savage was supposed to be Sweetie's record. Damn, you're

1:56:07.960 --> 1:56:12.320
<v Speaker 1>just gonna say it. Huh, Sweetie? You know I love

1:56:12.360 --> 1:56:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you and you know we're talking about this. Listen. I've

1:56:16.960 --> 1:56:19.440
<v Speaker 1>been trying to protect my people's man. What are you protecting?

1:56:19.520 --> 1:56:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Like that's my dog? Okay, okay, listen, it don't have

1:56:21.720 --> 1:56:23.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do it, you know what. All right, let's

1:56:23.320 --> 1:56:24.480
<v Speaker 1>get to it, and you want to get to it

1:56:24.520 --> 1:56:27.880
<v Speaker 1>was play for HER's instance in the business Listen played

1:56:27.880 --> 1:56:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the idea for Sweetie.

1:56:29.640 --> 1:56:32.080
<v Speaker 4>She didn't connect with it. It's all good, you know

1:56:32.120 --> 1:56:36.920
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. We gave it a week I gave

1:56:36.960 --> 1:56:38.560
<v Speaker 4>it a week. I said, man, y'all sure you don't

1:56:38.560 --> 1:56:41.160
<v Speaker 4>want to smash good idea?

1:56:43.760 --> 1:56:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I put it for meg Man said what oh, hell no,

1:56:47.760 --> 1:56:48.480
<v Speaker 3>this is my record.

1:56:49.200 --> 1:56:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Man.

1:56:49.400 --> 1:56:52.880
<v Speaker 4>From there, the rest is history, you know. I think

1:56:52.920 --> 1:56:55.200
<v Speaker 4>it was the last song that she put out on

1:56:55.200 --> 1:56:57.960
<v Speaker 4>that little, quick, little mixtape that she did.

1:56:58.480 --> 1:57:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Then the song to start going viral man, and the

1:57:01.560 --> 1:57:04.120
<v Speaker 1>rest of history. It was COVID time. And then Beyonce

1:57:05.840 --> 1:57:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Woo got on that thing.

1:57:10.040 --> 1:57:12.360
<v Speaker 4>And Bro, who can say they got a Grammy with

1:57:12.560 --> 1:57:14.840
<v Speaker 4>Beyonce and say they went number one?

1:57:15.560 --> 1:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>You can? You can?

1:57:18.240 --> 1:57:22.040
<v Speaker 4>My brother's crazy, you can't. That's crazy. The COVID Grammys,

1:57:22.200 --> 1:57:26.080
<v Speaker 4>the COVID Grammys. Bro, I remember watching it like they outside,

1:57:26.760 --> 1:57:29.640
<v Speaker 4>they outside, Bro, this is different, different, Bro, They was

1:57:29.680 --> 1:57:30.360
<v Speaker 4>outside outside.

1:57:30.360 --> 1:57:32.240
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like the whole like tagline. It was like,

1:57:32.400 --> 1:57:35.040
<v Speaker 2>that's got the Grammy's outside. You'll really wanted to outside.

1:57:35.440 --> 1:57:39.840
<v Speaker 4>But to get a hit in COVID, Yeah, a hit,

1:57:39.920 --> 1:57:43.320
<v Speaker 4>hit smash a smash covid.

1:57:43.320 --> 1:57:46.520
<v Speaker 1>That was that felt great? Yeah?

1:57:46.760 --> 1:57:52.240
<v Speaker 4>That Amy samples on Savage my brother man, Hey, but

1:57:52.360 --> 1:57:53.480
<v Speaker 4>somebody did try to suit me though.

1:57:55.720 --> 1:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Was it the Internet guy again? No? Was the Internet

1:57:59.120 --> 1:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>beat guy again?

1:57:59.840 --> 1:58:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Like, let this nah, bro, listen. I literally.

1:58:04.560 --> 1:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Lanrey told me that. She said, if you're not getting sued,

1:58:07.520 --> 1:58:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't got to hit. Yeah.

1:58:10.880 --> 1:58:14.600
<v Speaker 4>So I'm like, so when I found out I was

1:58:14.640 --> 1:58:20.600
<v Speaker 4>getting sued, like I got hit, I gotta smash baby, yo. Bro,

1:58:20.800 --> 1:58:23.400
<v Speaker 4>that that suit, that lawsuit just cleared up just a

1:58:23.400 --> 1:58:27.920
<v Speaker 4>couple years ago. Wow, yeah yeah that yeah, yeah that

1:58:28.000 --> 1:58:28.400
<v Speaker 4>was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like it was so bad. It was like

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<v Speaker 4>such a bad lawsuit, Like really, all right, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>what people just try?

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<v Speaker 1>What? Like how did I hear your song and never

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<v Speaker 1>came out? Yeah, it never came out.

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<v Speaker 4>So somehow Chaff got it, and Chaff gave it to

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<v Speaker 4>me and I made savage.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay yeah done, done, done done, Okay, no for sure?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah all right so smash hit yeah another one,

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<v Speaker 4>another one, another one. I'm feeling it. I'm making money too.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm making money. I know I'm making money now. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>ting upfront money. Upfront money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when you finally start Now if the savage is

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<v Speaker 1>when you start finally getting to.

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<v Speaker 4>That nineteen No twenty nineteen Bro, twenty nineteen Bro, I

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<v Speaker 4>was making fifteen thousand in the upfront cash to one

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<v Speaker 4>point five in twenty nineteen because I got a new lawyer.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, at the time, she reached out to me,

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<v Speaker 4>shout out to Jody should die.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she reached out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>She wretched out to you because I was just asking,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was going to ask how you spell rich

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sasking go chiefs, go cheese. You can't spell rich, bro, wretch,

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<v Speaker 4>Damn you a rich.

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<v Speaker 1>A your w R.

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<v Speaker 4>E T C ch wretch.

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<v Speaker 1>She reached out to me. She watched out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn you got it like that, like reaches this wretches

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<v Speaker 1>like the chicken wing.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't feel comfortable saying reached out.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like I'm just like stuck somewhere, like she

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<v Speaker 4>reached out to me. No, she That's how serious it was.

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<v Speaker 4>She watched out to me. I see you're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>make sense of it. But it's whatever. It's fine, Yo,

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<v Speaker 4>it's fine. Anybody who say this is not the chat

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<v Speaker 4>b y'all see this d emmy wretch, come on my

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<v Speaker 4>page and put wretch wretch this mallet Okay, act chang

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<v Speaker 4>t It's real.

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<v Speaker 1>I got another hit that you did. Mean. Hey man, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get you back to the head. You gotta wretch.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't I might make, might make. I want my

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<v Speaker 1>percentage to how much? I don't know. We'll figure out

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<v Speaker 1>with friends. Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it more than five.

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<v Speaker 2>For the word for the for the homie? Give me

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<v Speaker 2>ten because it's concept behind that too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you. I mean, like listen, you know, I know, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all good. Thank you, and I'll show to the

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<v Speaker 1>city our help bro. You wow, Bro, I like it good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm known to be business, but always good business, good business.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it business. Don't you for shure what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>What it is? That song What's up? What's up? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what That's what it really sounds like with me

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<v Speaker 1>when I grew up. What's uh? Can that nigga? Am hm?

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<v Speaker 1>You turn that into a pop absolutely smash me and

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Kennedy b K. Hey, hold on now he owe

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<v Speaker 1>me his life? Come on now? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know here take you k Yeah. We talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it before, we talked when he was on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We looked about it. I almost shot him one day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Little Ronnie fought man lit.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked in my studio and the door was unlocked

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<v Speaker 2>and he was in there playing piano, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to shoot this nigga, but he played.

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<v Speaker 4>So well, amazing, He's amazing, one of the best ever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, Yes, you want to shoot

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<v Speaker 4>this nigga broke in my house and played the piano.

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<v Speaker 1>He broke your house? He didn't, but that, in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind is the street nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking this nigga broke in my house and said

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<v Speaker 2>that the piano just start playing, is playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, nigga, who are Yeah? I love that guy. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>But so you b k and fresh and fresh blush

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<v Speaker 4>okay and verse senting and verse.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on, come on, We're gonna get to that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very powerful team. We did that. Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to the people nor money. First though, look at you

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<v Speaker 1>saying who records? Well you don'na do it. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you did it because when you mentioned who had brought

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<v Speaker 1>you out there, I'm like, oh, okay, so that i'd

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<v Speaker 1>just be I'll be putting puzzles together. Ship.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it was already put out there that no money

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<v Speaker 4>just she passed on it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's all good as a public.

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<v Speaker 1>Information all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So she passed on the record, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people passed on that song though, you know, and she was.

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<v Speaker 1>The prominent name that it got there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but she was. Actually it was for her though,

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<v Speaker 4>like shit cut it. No, she we we had sessions

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<v Speaker 4>doing COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I wrote it for her.

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<v Speaker 4>It was literally she was supposed to come in but

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<v Speaker 4>doing COVID people was iffy to come in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I was on face.

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<v Speaker 4>I called her. I was like the first day she

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<v Speaker 4>liked it. Then the second day You're like, I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, damn for real, all right and whatever. And

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<v Speaker 4>it just stayed getting cut by people until to landed

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<v Speaker 4>and To landed on adult you and she made her

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<v Speaker 4>own adult she she did what she did with it.

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<v Speaker 4>She killed she killed that ship. She killed the top

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<v Speaker 4>dog man top You know that. Come on, man, you

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<v Speaker 4>you know I love t D. Yes, they make sure

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<v Speaker 4>your boy good.

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<v Speaker 1>I love t D E. I love me a t

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<v Speaker 1>D and E. Speaking of t D. Yeah, man, then

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<v Speaker 1>you go and do thirty for thirty for Shure citizen

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<v Speaker 1>for sure? For sure? Chat? What's what's theiggs again? You do? Chat? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Should that? Yeah? Come, don't do this to me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>your wreck, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, yoga, man, huh chat chat Damn that Joe Brown

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<v Speaker 4>will lie. Bro, that song piped me up in a

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<v Speaker 4>different way. I think it solidified me as in the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>What yeah, Bro, all them years, all them hits, you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that record was the one.

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<v Speaker 4>For you, yeah, man, because yeah, to think about this

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<v Speaker 4>right here, Bro, Like if I name my recent on

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<v Speaker 4>my earlier hit records, CARDI B wasn't a household name.

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<v Speaker 4>The song had to got you, bight through, got you through,

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<v Speaker 4>you got you, got you?

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<v Speaker 1>You feel me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You got thirty for thirty on two Superstars. They go

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<v Speaker 2>to they going to do a stadium tour and perform

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<v Speaker 2>this record every night.

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<v Speaker 1>I Got You, I Got You. I see what you saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big difference. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So I appreciate them because, like, damn, this is

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<v Speaker 4>like really one of my first first times. They moments

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<v Speaker 4>were so huge already.

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<v Speaker 2>What made you sample the barge for that, bro, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's been sample.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah for sure? Shot the polo right, yeah for sure? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Like what made you be like, okay, this could work again.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's time, honestly, bro, And this is my ignorance.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just going through all these songs Switch. I

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<v Speaker 4>was just up at night going through this song. I said,

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<v Speaker 4>the bar Bobby, yeah, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah Bobby the bar, shout Bobby the bars junr.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my boy. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going through all the Switch records because I'm I

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<v Speaker 3>like the Barges in general.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm like, the Switch is no, you know, Switches,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the first, first mothership, that's the mothership of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going through Switch, which I'm like, man that

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<v Speaker 4>this is just all these songs are beautiful. Then I

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<v Speaker 4>come on this one. I said, wait, in a second,

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<v Speaker 4>I know this, and then I heard the whole song.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, oh Ship, that's fun. Wow, oh Ship. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>let me let me try look. Let let me sample

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<v Speaker 4>it in my way of how I would sample it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I sampled it in my way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>The final cut of three for three already a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of sounds that I had in there and movements muted

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<v Speaker 4>out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's what's what y'all hear today is just a very

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<v Speaker 4>simple record, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm I do simple songs and whatnot. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>man that I went. When I heard that, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>why not, I'm gonna try to take a stab at

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<v Speaker 4>that too, gosh, And that's that's what it was. Another

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<v Speaker 4>smash and I definitely had to call my brother Polo though,

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<v Speaker 4>Bro I had to call it shot one two three

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<v Speaker 4>for himself. God dang, cause Polo he said, hey, you

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<v Speaker 4>know you got that.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, I'm like, Bro, I didn't know that because Ronnie

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<v Speaker 1>had to call me and he was like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>call Polo. Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, okay, let me go ahead and call Polo

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<v Speaker 4>and talk to Polo about it. But yeah, but but

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<v Speaker 4>it was you know, that's big bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. It was love though. That's dope. That's dope. Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Man, you got you know, let's let's let's go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and it's it's time to talk about it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to talk about it man, because you have

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<v Speaker 2>a very controversial record.

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<v Speaker 3>The boss Mans Home Plays of the Week.

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<v Speaker 4>You definitely have Plays of the Week, but you have

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<v Speaker 4>a very controversial record. That's something I did with it

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<v Speaker 4>gets you want to keep going, come on, say some

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<v Speaker 4>work you're done, because I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to figure out is it the one with I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, just keep going I ain't got no more.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a record that goes where all my scamming ass.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, and they know the rest. They know you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say it.

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<v Speaker 4>No damn all right, Nope, I can't get no, no, nope,

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<v Speaker 4>don't promo.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't that money spinning that you spend it? And will man?

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<v Speaker 2>And I sure will though I have a man we are,

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<v Speaker 2>we are, we spend. But let's get into this record, man,

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<v Speaker 2>because that record has caused a frenzy from the day

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<v Speaker 2>it was released. I remember I always got to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what I remembering about. I remember going online and

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<v Speaker 2>this before I knew you did.

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<v Speaker 1>It, because it was only I had only seen a clip.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear the j white term yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a clip that was being passed around of

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<v Speaker 2>young Miami wrapping the record, and then I looked at

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<v Speaker 2>the comments and they were murdering her.

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<v Speaker 1>They were it was so evil. It wasn't even like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, like, it was mean.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't even constructive criticians.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, no, it was mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, why do they Why are these people

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<v Speaker 4>mean to her? For so mean to this girl? And

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<v Speaker 4>this shit jaming.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard. It's my first thought. To the point that

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a group chat with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different people for y'all who were bashing the record, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading it until I finally chime in and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that shit jamming, And then some other people came in.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, I think so too, damn, but I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>the I'm watching people just just bash it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, but you gotta understand too, And this is

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<v Speaker 2>me and this is I don't want to say it's

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<v Speaker 2>a disclaimer about myself, but I'm a feeling person. If

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<v Speaker 2>it feel good to me, I'm rolling. I't fuck I

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<v Speaker 2>mean first time speaking of Polo. Polo was a first

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<v Speaker 2>person to send me laughy taffy for a wow and

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, tell what you think.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like this ship jam he said. I told

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga and ship Jammy niggas is hating. I'm like that

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<v Speaker 1>ship I like that ship. Yeah, I hit it. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt good to me. Feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever I hear a record, I don't give a

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<v Speaker 2>fuck what nobody else says.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel good as long as you feel good to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like I got a pretty good hear

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you sir, and I'm willing to I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 1>stand in front of that, which a lot of people aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people will wait and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all do like it? I like it after.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of being like a sheep man, man, I'll stand

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<v Speaker 2>on the table about something if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, I've been wrong, but I trust these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust Thank you Lord for these I trust these.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm watching all this happen, and then I'm also,

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<v Speaker 2>in a matter of a couple of weeks a week

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<v Speaker 2>or two.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching the shift. Oh. People starting like it, people starting

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<v Speaker 1>to like it, people starting to embrace it. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching the people who don't like it, or having

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<v Speaker 1>heard it and maybe don't like it, get even louder too.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like a swell yeah man, that turns into

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<v Speaker 1>a smash that records, big one, a big one, bro

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<v Speaker 1>cultural moment, cultural moment.

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<v Speaker 2>My eighty year old auntie who I love, dancing at

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<v Speaker 2>the house.

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<v Speaker 1>When that came on Wow with my twenty something niece.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels good, like it's a great record. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm standing on that like a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it, that's fine music.

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<v Speaker 1>Is subjective. It is that record. It's so catchy. I said, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it feel good. It's funky. This feel good faks. Walk

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<v Speaker 1>me through Young Miami and spend that. Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Young Miami. She's amazing. First of all, she's amazing,

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<v Speaker 4>a great artist to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>She comes in. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>We were there for about a week. Man, we just

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<v Speaker 4>working on records. It's like one of our last songs

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<v Speaker 4>that we did for that week. She said, Jay Wight,

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<v Speaker 4>I want something that feel sexy. I want something that

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<v Speaker 4>feel you know good. I wanted to feel like this though.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to feel like that. And I said, but cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I started that drum pattern, bro, and we lit bro

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<v Speaker 4>and back back then y'all in Miami were in Miami.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro a twelve studios. Bro, you me verse fresh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>hey Young Miami, you know what I mean? And yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Child's there too. Shoot, man, I've seen that

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<v Speaker 4>smile and I played them chords.

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<v Speaker 1>M M. I looked over. She started, and BRO, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't lie. I don't drink no more for real like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was gone, my boy. I was gone off

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<v Speaker 1>that I would drink like that no more. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was out of there.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, all, my hit records I've done. I've always been sober.

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<v Speaker 4>This song right here, I was out of there, no lie,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I was through there. I'm talking about I

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<v Speaker 4>was on fifty. I'm not gonna live out of ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was on.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty, bro. But I had to get that mold though.

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<v Speaker 4>The process was magical, man Like, from what I can

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<v Speaker 4>remember that, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Process was dope. I can't remember. No, no, man.

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<v Speaker 4>She You know, Miami is easy to write for it

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<v Speaker 4>because she pretty much puts her life out there. She's

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<v Speaker 4>easy to now you say, right for it because she's

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<v Speaker 4>she actually writes.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not. She she right.

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<v Speaker 4>People don't think she right. But that girl right there

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<v Speaker 4>in the cipher, like how we do our song. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like a cipher. You got fresh, you got verse, you

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<v Speaker 4>got Miami, And I'm sitting there with the keys, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and we writing that verse out and Miami is leading

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<v Speaker 4>the charge with her life. She said, nah, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>say that. No, I'll say it's about her, Yes, about her,

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<v Speaker 4>And then pretty much she's she's sent it through the blender,

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<v Speaker 4>fresh and verse and it comes out boom.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. That's like how I came

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<v Speaker 1>up the wretch. You know what I'm saying. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>T was in now he ain't gonna rench it out.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, we're gonna reach this thing up. Matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>this co producer at this point, no minus, well this

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<v Speaker 1>man gonna get me a like no dog, well you talk,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Jay, come on Bro, it's okay, b big podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>God damn it. Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>That process it was. It didn't take long. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>two hours, so like it didn't take long. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a party, bro. If you if you seen have you

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<v Speaker 4>seen the video? Yes, that was the session. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 4>was just fun like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, yeah, yeah I've seen it. Good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like it was fun. Make sure y'all don on him. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>But I can't say it was an overthought thing because

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<v Speaker 4>we did a vibe. It's just vibbing out, man, and

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<v Speaker 4>it came out and she said, Jay, I really love

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<v Speaker 4>this song.

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<v Speaker 1>I said me too. So was it immediate?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know it wasn't immediate in the streets because

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<v Speaker 2>I watched that happen. I watched people that hate the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. But like, was it the media within like

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<v Speaker 2>the launch of it, or was people kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't we don't know. We all taking a chance.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like anytime you have a record that you

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<v Speaker 4>don't know about, I feel like people who don't understand

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna feel like that. And that's okay, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 4>that's how people. That's how I feel with when execs

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<v Speaker 4>are artists want to work with me, it's still that

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know because I'm not your cookie cutter producer,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And none of these records that I've named but we've

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<v Speaker 2>named it sounded like.

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I laugh at most stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Been that in Bodak Yellow and thirty for thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>what it is is I like it like that all

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<v Speaker 2>live on different planets.

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<v Speaker 4>But guess what they got though in common? What they

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<v Speaker 4>got a feeling?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. I thought, what you're gonna say, Jay White.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, a feeling. It's bigger than me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the feeling will always be here, no longer than

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<v Speaker 4>all of us. Feeling bod that Yellow. It gave you

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<v Speaker 4>a feeling of just man like, what the it's a moment.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a moment. It felt like like the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 4>win the super Bowl or something like that. You know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying like it felt cultural. It dude, it did.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt Chiefs winning the super Bowl is not cultural.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just something that is within you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the whole it's just like me saying planting,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the whole us want us to win back

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<v Speaker 4>back at that time, back then, back when you be

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<v Speaker 4>child the first time. I feel like we they definitely

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<v Speaker 4>wanted it felt cultural like the other the underdogars one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>So but anyway, you you definitely shoot nigga.

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<v Speaker 4>No no, no, no no, I'm just I'm just comparing to

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<v Speaker 4>the Winds five niggas.

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<v Speaker 3>So y'all get this, man, bro, But yeah, feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your thoughts on the controversy? Like what are you? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>honest thoughts? I mean, what's your thoughts? Love?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's you, it's it's your record along with with

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<v Speaker 2>our with our brothers Fresh and in Verse.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you know what I mean. It's y'all record. But

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<v Speaker 1>like what, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Love it, bro, Like I when I seen people talking

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<v Speaker 4>about it, I just smiled, man, I really did. I

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<v Speaker 4>smiled at it and I said, dang, we got one,

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<v Speaker 4>like we got a conversational record.

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<v Speaker 1>So you never you've never had the moment where you

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<v Speaker 1>feel attacked, though I.

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<v Speaker 4>Never felt I personal ever felt attacked at all. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't appreciate and I don't appreciate the meanness in people

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<v Speaker 4>tear somebody down over a song that they don't like.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, I ain't. I wasn't a

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<v Speaker 4>fan of that. And also some of like our peers

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<v Speaker 4>too in the game and not speaking on India, but

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, there was a few other people just

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<v Speaker 4>speaking very nasty and negative. It was almost like, how

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<v Speaker 4>can you speak this way about a song? Why would

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<v Speaker 4>you want to boycott another person's opportunity or their moment?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you want to put that out there? Why?

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<v Speaker 3>Why'd you want to put that words a powerful words

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<v Speaker 3>are real?

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<v Speaker 4>Why would you say why would you say we got

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<v Speaker 4>to stop this from getting to the Grammys? And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a Grammy voter.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, wow, Wow, that's that's fucked up, Like, why would

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<v Speaker 1>you say that? I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't like that, you know what I mean? But

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<v Speaker 4>everything else cool. You know, I did a video.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see it? That sound? I did a video

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<v Speaker 1>for me?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if y'all ain't seen the video, it's a

2:21:10.440 --> 2:21:15.720
<v Speaker 4>video I did. I mashed up spend that and INDII

2:21:15.800 --> 2:21:17.720
<v Speaker 4>re song video which I loved that.

2:21:17.760 --> 2:21:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Song about the amazing record. I love that song.

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<v Speaker 4>I did it at lightheartness and just like, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 4>it's music because you are a DJ and I DJ.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like why not, like I would have did it

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<v Speaker 4>whether people are mad or not. It's just wow, I

2:21:33.160 --> 2:21:36.240
<v Speaker 4>mash up songs. But you know I did that and

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<v Speaker 4>that that threw me in that spotlight. And bro, do

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<v Speaker 4>you know I got threatened. I got threatened for my

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<v Speaker 4>life and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, people threaten your life. They threatened my life. Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>M my d M.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro they take some people tell about my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>They they helped me and my kids often, Like, bro.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like over over a mashup. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 4>never said nothing disrespectful to you know this this woman.

2:22:02.480 --> 2:22:06.400
<v Speaker 4>I never said nothing personally, it was nothing. I'm really

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<v Speaker 4>keeping it music. But but a lot of people online,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's interesting. Yeah, you know, over a moment, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I think I think culturally what happens is

2:22:21.879 --> 2:22:24.760
<v Speaker 2>there's there's so much going on in our world that

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<v Speaker 2>people people just they don't separate. They don't separate, and

2:22:33.959 --> 2:22:36.680
<v Speaker 2>that's and that's their choice. That's their choice, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how to separate the music from the person, or the

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<v Speaker 2>music from.

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<v Speaker 1>Reality, or whatever that may be.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said, for me, man, I'm I'm just

2:22:44.959 --> 2:22:49.640
<v Speaker 2>a person who I love music and I love to

2:22:49.840 --> 2:22:55.360
<v Speaker 2>feel something from music, whatever that is, and that something

2:22:55.400 --> 2:22:58.560
<v Speaker 2>make me smile, I'll be smiling. Did But I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also from a different place too, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I all my my school clothes when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in middle school came from boosters, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in elementary and you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of them. And I'm kind of still

2:23:14.640 --> 2:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>looking for a booster here, daddy. Yeah, I do know

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<v Speaker 2>a couple, mean, you know, I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>him personally, but I like the I like the fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard out here, man, It's very hard out here.

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<v Speaker 2>My Mama's that's what she did, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get it. I got family members that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the difference between a news reporter stating news and

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<v Speaker 4>a song.

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<v Speaker 3>Because don't the news don't don't don't they fear?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I get where I get what. I get

2:23:51.400 --> 2:23:54.520
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying. But I also understand the people that

2:23:54.560 --> 2:24:00.920
<v Speaker 2>are like promoting when they say you're promoting a lifestyle, right,

2:24:01.120 --> 2:24:05.840
<v Speaker 2>So I understand. I understand both views of it. For

2:24:06.000 --> 2:24:09.240
<v Speaker 2>me personally, I'm just into music. I like music, and

2:24:10.080 --> 2:24:12.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, when people and when people bring up kids,

2:24:12.720 --> 2:24:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I also have kids. I raise my kids a certain way. Absolutely, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>right right, wrong is wrong. This is that you ain't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be that. This is we own and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to show you better than I can tell you Lee

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<v Speaker 2>by example.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not looking for movies, music or the internet

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<v Speaker 1>to raise my child.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, thank you, thank you. That's just me, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like. So I approach things.

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<v Speaker 1>Differently, the best way ever, the best way ever. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that it's your choice to me. That's to you and

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<v Speaker 1>to me. But I say all that to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>love that record. Thank you, Records, Jamming, thank You've had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of arguments about that record, but thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even an arguing I'm not even an

2:25:04.800 --> 2:25:08.160
<v Speaker 1>arguing person. I'm not. I'll say I've had debates because

2:25:08.160 --> 2:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an arguing person. I'm not. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I mess your question though, do

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<v Speaker 3>you think it's the song?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's a song, bro, what do you

2:25:16.560 --> 2:25:19.520
<v Speaker 4>think it's the person? I think people got a distaste

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<v Speaker 4>for Miami for some weird reason. They don't like her.

2:25:25.040 --> 2:25:28.039
<v Speaker 4>And I think that it got louder when the song

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<v Speaker 4>really became a hit record. I feel like if the

2:25:30.440 --> 2:25:33.760
<v Speaker 4>song dout it like people wanted to do, it wouldn't

2:25:33.800 --> 2:25:37.760
<v Speaker 4>have this conversation and it'd be a laughingstock. But now

2:25:37.879 --> 2:25:39.520
<v Speaker 4>the fact that the song was in the top twenties

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<v Speaker 4>on the Hot one hundred. Oh, I can't believe this,

2:25:42.680 --> 2:25:47.080
<v Speaker 4>thank you. I can't believe this song and her m

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<v Speaker 4>she her do you know her life? You know she

2:25:53.400 --> 2:25:58.360
<v Speaker 4>can't do this, she can't do that. Y'all noticed this.

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<v Speaker 4>This woman read it to hear this stuff, right, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all know that her her skin bleased too. Y'all know

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<v Speaker 4>she's a human. Yeah, And that affects somebody when they're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what I mean. Sure, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the people.

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<v Speaker 4>They got tired of seeing the person who they sing

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<v Speaker 4>lose lately.

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<v Speaker 1>When gotcha excuse me, blessure, thank you? Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel I feel like I feel like the people who

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<v Speaker 4>got louder to the ones who really they were championed

2:26:37.680 --> 2:26:42.920
<v Speaker 4>thee Yeah, it's like they said, oh, y'all all like this, No,

2:26:43.040 --> 2:26:44.879
<v Speaker 4>we don't like this now, y'all was like this song?

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<v Speaker 1>What the song is this?

2:26:47.360 --> 2:26:49.920
<v Speaker 4>The song is that? The song is this? I think

2:26:49.920 --> 2:26:52.360
<v Speaker 4>it's the Messengers all the way. Y'all didn't like the

2:26:52.360 --> 2:26:56.760
<v Speaker 4>person that. Y'all wasn't room for her. Y'all expected her to,

2:26:57.040 --> 2:27:01.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, stay where she was at. How dare you

2:27:01.120 --> 2:27:04.240
<v Speaker 4>get a real hit record? You're supposed to be a joke.

2:27:04.480 --> 2:27:05.120
<v Speaker 4>You can't rap.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you manning the boards for the music that's

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<v Speaker 2>coming from her project?

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<v Speaker 1>Too? But show a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, we've done a lot of songs together, so

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<v Speaker 4>we should expect moreing away Yeah, okay, more, always more, okay,

2:27:33.200 --> 2:27:35.040
<v Speaker 4>because to me, it seems like you guys have a

2:27:35.040 --> 2:27:36.240
<v Speaker 4>great work relationship.

2:27:36.640 --> 2:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>My dogs, my dog, Yeah, that's my dog. That's my dog.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh it's your favorite, your favorite artist ever that

2:27:48.280 --> 2:27:49.200
<v Speaker 2>you've worked with ever?

2:27:50.680 --> 2:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow? Ever the show a you're gonna put it on

2:27:53.480 --> 2:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>your top five R and B singers.

2:27:55.520 --> 2:27:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Might as well as well listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I never knew what it felt like for an artist

2:28:02.000 --> 2:28:06.320
<v Speaker 4>to embrace you with their spotlight got you. I never

2:28:06.360 --> 2:28:08.200
<v Speaker 4>got that, you know what I mean?

2:28:08.320 --> 2:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And no shade.

2:28:10.520 --> 2:28:13.200
<v Speaker 2>But reality is what it is. Yeah, that is the

2:28:13.280 --> 2:28:15.360
<v Speaker 2>artists that have stand next to you. They say, hey,

2:28:16.320 --> 2:28:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Jay White, J White, J White, J White, I get it.

2:28:18.800 --> 2:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I ain't.

2:28:19.760 --> 2:28:21.879
<v Speaker 3>Never I've seen producers who do get that.

2:28:22.000 --> 2:28:24.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. She's allowed.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard in front of that record, Jay White turned

2:28:26.520 --> 2:28:29.039
<v Speaker 4>me up, Jay White, and she means, and you already

2:28:29.200 --> 2:28:33.160
<v Speaker 4>had a tag. Yeah my problem shout out to my brother,

2:28:33.959 --> 2:28:36.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah and problem. He always encouraged me to use that

2:28:36.120 --> 2:28:39.000
<v Speaker 4>tag man, but she turned me up with that tag.

2:28:39.120 --> 2:28:42.840
<v Speaker 4>But in every interview she gonna say how much she

2:28:43.760 --> 2:28:44.040
<v Speaker 4>likes J.

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<v Speaker 1>White.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's given me a whole different people who didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know I did bow that yellow right now.

2:28:49.959 --> 2:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Today it's like, dang, Jay White, I didn't know you

2:28:52.800 --> 2:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>did bow that yellow? Right It's almost rediscovery.

2:28:56.320 --> 2:28:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like, oh and I'm talking and these people

2:28:59.440 --> 2:29:00.880
<v Speaker 3>in our industry.

2:29:01.120 --> 2:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>That's wild. After what we go back to, Like I said,

2:29:04.720 --> 2:29:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, you hear a new story.

2:29:05.879 --> 2:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>You hear I'm still getting discovered to this day.

2:29:09.000 --> 2:29:12.360
<v Speaker 4>But this song has put me up more than I

2:29:12.400 --> 2:29:16.400
<v Speaker 4>ever have, and I'm appreciateive of our artists. You know,

2:29:16.440 --> 2:29:18.160
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of old school in a sense. It's like,

2:29:18.240 --> 2:29:20.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, you are thanking the producer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dope, man. I love that. It's dope man.

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<v Speaker 2>And and just you know, and we we've set man,

2:29:27.080 --> 2:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>we've worked together, we've been in a lab. But just

2:29:30.240 --> 2:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>and also watching what you Fresh and Verse are doing together.

2:29:35.720 --> 2:29:41.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, my dogs, man, it's a TV show up

2:29:41.320 --> 2:29:43.400
<v Speaker 4>in there. Oh yeah, it's a TV show.

2:29:43.680 --> 2:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Definitely. I've definitely been a part of that TV show.

2:29:46.440 --> 2:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Man having a great time with you.

2:29:48.240 --> 2:29:49.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a shark tanking there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't weak up in that room now you brothers

2:29:52.080 --> 2:29:53.560
<v Speaker 2>is yeah, because I've seen that too.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't be we Yeah.

2:29:54.560 --> 2:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>But and I appreciate the fact that y'all all push

2:29:57.040 --> 2:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>each other show. It's not like, oh yeah, that's just cool,

2:29:59.720 --> 2:30:02.279
<v Speaker 1>that's good. Good. No, it's like, no, no, this ain't great. Nigga,

2:30:02.520 --> 2:30:03.439
<v Speaker 1>like we gotta.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I'm forty one, bro, yeah, getting no younger. We

2:30:07.480 --> 2:30:10.720
<v Speaker 4>gotta get to it. No, it came later for you.

2:30:11.080 --> 2:30:13.440
<v Speaker 4>It came, bro, came later for you. My first hit

2:30:13.600 --> 2:30:18.200
<v Speaker 4>record thirty two years old, my first hit hit, Yeah, yeah,

2:30:18.440 --> 2:30:22.960
<v Speaker 4>thirty two, so I still feel shit, what, yeah, you

2:30:23.040 --> 2:30:23.720
<v Speaker 4>knew to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like, yeah, even.

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<v Speaker 4>They say unk, yeah, I'm younger, Wrench Rich Ranch, Wretch

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<v Speaker 4>Rich Ranch.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all that.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but but I feel like, what what tell me

2:30:38.000 --> 2:30:42.320
<v Speaker 4>if I'm wrong? What's the producer's lifetime? Like when he

2:30:42.400 --> 2:30:47.280
<v Speaker 4>get a hot record, Like let's say a mind what

2:30:47.280 --> 2:30:48.240
<v Speaker 4>what's their lifetime?

2:30:48.680 --> 2:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it one to five years, one of three years,

2:30:51.200 --> 2:30:54.879
<v Speaker 4>once a ten years? Like it's very much NFL now

2:30:55.000 --> 2:30:58.160
<v Speaker 4>for long? So you got three, you got about three? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like when you haven't just to see like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like once you start getting past five, close to ten

2:31:05.440 --> 2:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>or once you get past ten, now you now you're

2:31:08.120 --> 2:31:14.720
<v Speaker 2>having those those Timberland Dre for real and from a

2:31:14.800 --> 2:31:20.080
<v Speaker 2>hip hop standpoints, Mike Will, Mike Will hit Boy.

2:31:20.040 --> 2:31:21.120
<v Speaker 3>What's what's what's what's what's what?

2:31:21.240 --> 2:31:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Name for Saint Louis the producer Metro is Metro from

2:31:25.760 --> 2:31:26.199
<v Speaker 4>Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I never knew. Where's trying to thart He's from Atlanta,

2:31:28.000 --> 2:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis.

2:31:30.800 --> 2:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Zay like there this rarefied air to be able to

2:31:35.360 --> 2:31:44.360
<v Speaker 2>do it a decade which you're approaching like consistently with hits. Yeah,

2:31:44.400 --> 2:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>like that's very rarefied air where you start talking about

2:31:47.560 --> 2:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, incas obviously then you know, like I said,

2:31:50.320 --> 2:31:52.039
<v Speaker 2>when you start talking about Dre and tim and it's

2:31:52.040 --> 2:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>like decades and decades and multiple things. But like, there's

2:31:55.760 --> 2:31:59.279
<v Speaker 2>not many people who have lasted at a high level

2:31:59.440 --> 2:32:01.480
<v Speaker 2>more than five it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not, it's not. So that should be celebrated, brother,

2:32:07.440 --> 2:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's why you're here. This is big for me,

2:32:10.800 --> 2:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>and you need to start doing more R and B records. Man,

2:32:14.560 --> 2:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you need to start doing more army

2:32:16.320 --> 2:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>record Maybe you're hiring me to come through the ratchet stuff.

2:32:18.760 --> 2:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>That's cool.

2:32:19.640 --> 2:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>People start I love R and B, start doing more

2:32:23.760 --> 2:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>R and B records. I'm already gonna get cussed out

2:32:26.000 --> 2:32:28.160
<v Speaker 2>for having you here because we ain't talked about no

2:32:28.240 --> 2:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>R and B records, But that don't matter to me

2:32:29.640 --> 2:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>because we're.

2:32:30.040 --> 2:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Talking about here records. Sizzle. They would say that's hip hop.

2:32:34.560 --> 2:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>She was singing on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I'm just telling you. They would say

2:32:39.440 --> 2:32:42.160
<v Speaker 2>that's hip hop. Wow, she's singing that hook?

2:32:42.879 --> 2:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>What it is? What's up? It comes from? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I'm telling you what the purists well,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'd be having to deal with it because I

2:32:53.000 --> 2:32:54.519
<v Speaker 1>ain't even a purist.

2:32:55.080 --> 2:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. I love everything, I love

2:32:56.720 --> 2:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the music right, but I know what I gotta go

2:32:59.480 --> 2:33:00.840
<v Speaker 2>through and I know with you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>They be talking they ship well.

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<v Speaker 1>I got ri Lennox, I work with her. I got

2:33:05.200 --> 2:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>two songs of Ri, I got I got a single

2:33:07.320 --> 2:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>coming out with her coming. I've got the name of

2:33:09.879 --> 2:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>So see, you can't even remember the RB since you

2:33:12.480 --> 2:33:15.119
<v Speaker 1>better remember the goddamn RB, R and B stuff, But yeah,

2:33:15.200 --> 2:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it's what I need. You go on to RB run Damn.

2:33:19.720 --> 2:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>My last hit was considered R and B songle I

2:33:22.480 --> 2:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>know last year, I know, I know, But who is

2:33:25.760 --> 2:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the R and B though the purists they canna consider it?

2:33:28.160 --> 2:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Who Rapp?

2:33:28.959 --> 2:33:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Who I work with right now? He said, who should

2:33:30.959 --> 2:33:31.879
<v Speaker 3>you work with right now?

2:33:31.920 --> 2:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>In R and B?

2:33:32.480 --> 2:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I think he's just sign an R and B artist. Yeah,

2:33:35.120 --> 2:33:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I think you should work with an R and B

2:33:36.520 --> 2:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>artist for sure. You know, I think you should break

2:33:38.920 --> 2:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>an RB artists.

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<v Speaker 4>I love R and B with your music under it,

2:33:45.280 --> 2:33:47.760
<v Speaker 4>but that'd be any hip hop now nah. But they

2:33:47.760 --> 2:33:50.480
<v Speaker 4>got a say you gotta say so, then don't you

2:33:50.560 --> 2:33:51.840
<v Speaker 4>didn't sing she did.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is the elements of the records.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm are considered are considered hip hop, you know

2:33:58.040 --> 2:34:00.119
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? And thirty for thirty is really like

2:34:00.480 --> 2:34:02.360
<v Speaker 2>it's half says it's half Kendrick.

2:34:02.400 --> 2:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So people are like, you know, it's a rad record.

2:34:04.200 --> 2:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>That's a rat record for people. You know, really it's

2:34:06.320 --> 2:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just a smash. It's at the end of the day.

2:34:08.560 --> 2:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>But I know what I'm gonna gett Like, you know,

2:34:12.760 --> 2:34:16.039
<v Speaker 1>no R straight R and B. They don't even have

2:34:16.040 --> 2:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>to be straight R and B. But I got R

2:34:17.760 --> 2:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and B songs. Man, we needed.

2:34:20.920 --> 2:34:23.160
<v Speaker 2>We need, we need to hits. Give us the hits. Bro,

2:34:23.400 --> 2:34:25.040
<v Speaker 2>you holding the hits only for hip hop?

2:34:25.200 --> 2:34:27.480
<v Speaker 4>I hell no, Bro, I got R and B smashing

2:34:27.520 --> 2:34:29.080
<v Speaker 4>on the period. They gotta cut these joints.

2:34:29.080 --> 2:34:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Man, we're playing formulator, all right. So now now we're

2:34:33.480 --> 2:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna get to this R and B thing. Now we're

2:34:35.120 --> 2:34:38.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna you know, because because we know that all these

2:34:38.280 --> 2:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>music that.

2:34:38.720 --> 2:34:40.440
<v Speaker 4>You're creating, it comes from the church and from R

2:34:40.480 --> 2:34:42.400
<v Speaker 4>and B. Yeah, man, you know what I mean. It

2:34:42.520 --> 2:34:45.360
<v Speaker 4>got the elements, Yes, most of all the songs. So

2:34:45.520 --> 2:34:46.840
<v Speaker 4>now I need to know.

2:34:48.280 --> 2:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>What got you there? So you know we're gonna were

2:34:50.680 --> 2:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna play something that the brother Tank is sent in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>top five, same, top five You're tough, areasing us? Are

2:35:14.640 --> 2:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and me songs? We got to know enough before you

2:35:20.760 --> 2:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>go there on this show. Your body wanted to els

2:35:33.480 --> 2:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>top you tp F. That was dick. Every boy is

2:35:52.080 --> 2:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>dick you. So as you as you heard my brother say,

2:36:02.800 --> 2:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>we want to know shout out to Tank.

2:36:05.040 --> 2:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>We want to know your top five R and B

2:36:08.240 --> 2:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>singers and your top five R and B songs. So

2:36:14.040 --> 2:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>top five singers, Beyonce, Chris Brown, mm hmm, let's take

2:36:23.879 --> 2:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>it to I'm just gonna get you right here, Okay, Cisco,

2:36:29.040 --> 2:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>why is that gonna give you?

2:36:29.959 --> 2:36:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is incredible. I don't hear people be saying

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<v Speaker 3>his name a lot man.

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<v Speaker 4>That niggas incredible And this is for me, guys, and

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta rounded up with Brandy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cold five, cold five. It's a cold line up Brandy. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's your top five R V singers, Top five

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<v Speaker 2>R and V songs.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what's the song with Brandy? Almost doesn't count for me?

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<v Speaker 4>I love that song I'm an Usher fan, man, I

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<v Speaker 4>love Ushers in general. Usher, You remind me. I gotta

2:37:08.680 --> 2:37:11.640
<v Speaker 4>go Usher again him with You make me want to

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<v Speaker 4>either fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You remind me and you make me want It's on

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<v Speaker 1>his top five I Have for for Me. Yeah, I

2:37:16.600 --> 2:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>love him song. He's in one of those songs on Confessions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy Ship. Let's tell you how many hits he got?

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<v Speaker 1>He got too many?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, I'm so God forgive me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, number four? What's it?

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta give Michael Jackson, Man, Michael Jackson, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna pick an Era because if not, Joe might hunt you.

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<v Speaker 4>If yeah, no Man, Human Nature for me I love.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that record and a record that makes me

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<v Speaker 4>feel good. And I don't know why when the press

2:37:51.160 --> 2:37:52.800
<v Speaker 4>came out, I just made me feel feel good. Bro,

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<v Speaker 4>it was Beyonce, Man, me, myself and.

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<v Speaker 1>I great record. You know the story behind Human Nature? No,

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<v Speaker 1>what story of The songwriter.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrote a song about his daughter, a conversation he had

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<v Speaker 2>with his with his small daughter about a boy at

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<v Speaker 2>the playground. I think the boy like bitter or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and the way he explained it to his daughter was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just human nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So the original demo is the story about that happening

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<v Speaker 2>on the playground and his daughter asking him why what?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why why?

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<v Speaker 2>It's about telling this human nature and literally being on

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<v Speaker 2>the B side of a demo tape that Quincy was

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<v Speaker 2>sent what in the Yes, that's crazy. How something like

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<v Speaker 2>them other songs is cool? But what about this one

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<v Speaker 2>about on the B side? Yeah, the Darunding And she

2:38:51.440 --> 2:38:56.000
<v Speaker 2>said why, yeah, why why? He says, tell him that

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<v Speaker 2>is here. Oh that's crazy. Wow, that's crazy. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest songs ever ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why tell him that his human nature? Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, my daughter be telling me so many stories. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta just start writing though. Man, my daughter, my daughter

2:39:14.800 --> 2:39:17.160
<v Speaker 2>be telling me stories. Boy, I picked her up from school.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, yeah, dadd And then if you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>your human nature, I need to write me in human

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<v Speaker 2>nature you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Thrill.

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<v Speaker 2>See the difference is I wouldn't have told my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>is human nation. I would have been like, let's go there.

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<v Speaker 1>And get it. If we're gonna find, we're gonna find

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<v Speaker 1>his daddy.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't hit no kids, but I will whoop daddy's

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<v Speaker 2>ass for not teaching this kid not to bite my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't supposed to be biting nobody in fact, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna whoop your daddy ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, so he could tell you, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>So I.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably wouldn't have wrote broy yours would have been against

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<v Speaker 4>Why why.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell him? Because of human nature? This is my human nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep from the baby, man, I get it. Yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be trying y'all out there like real man, trying not

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<v Speaker 1>to be like that. Bro. Y'all just all turned, bro

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<v Speaker 1>and all I skin too. No, we're not all like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everybody I've seen. It's like we turned everybody

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen pretty right, though too short. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he ain't dark either.

2:40:24.600 --> 2:40:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Is he like pillars of yet complex ship. He's like

2:40:29.760 --> 2:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the pillars of the bay Gary Bayden. Damn he even

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<v Speaker 2>the baby bro Brian Shaw, Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, okay, all you gotta wrapping potee bouta I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot bro Quin going. Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just I'm just I'm you're just sitting here, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, all right from sorry, I'm sorry man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So now I need you to build. Okay,

2:41:01.840 --> 2:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I needed to build because you know I know you

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<v Speaker 1>build the beats. I need I need you to build

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<v Speaker 1>your super R and B singer, your votron. I need

2:41:13.920 --> 2:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you to give me the vocals, gonna be the lead singer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the stage performance, the drip, Yeah, the passion of the artist. Okay.

2:41:27.640 --> 2:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>And who's going to produce for this artist? Okay? So

2:41:30.760 --> 2:41:33.119
<v Speaker 1>can you just walking down there? Okay? Can you vocals?

2:41:33.400 --> 2:41:36.959
<v Speaker 1>Vocals is gonna be go back to the usher. Usher

2:41:37.040 --> 2:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>is your singer? Yeah, performance style, stage stage presence, Chris hmm,

2:41:44.680 --> 2:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>bad mofucker. Yeah, the drip. Who're gonna put the fly

2:41:47.240 --> 2:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>ship on with this artist? Is gonna wear Prince come on?

2:41:52.879 --> 2:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>So you got ushered Chris with the Prince fits on?

2:41:56.800 --> 2:42:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Then then the ladies love the My mama, she loved it.

2:42:00.920 --> 2:42:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Who has the passion? Who's gonna make you feel it?

2:42:05.680 --> 2:42:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Nigga? So you're gonna.

2:42:08.120 --> 2:42:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Sweat and booty out and skate and glide and his

2:42:15.959 --> 2:42:18.480
<v Speaker 4>through the crowd. You know she kicks hers off, she does,

2:42:18.600 --> 2:42:21.720
<v Speaker 4>but Prison never kicked his. Prince kept kept his heels on.

2:42:23.120 --> 2:42:28.039
<v Speaker 4>Listen all right, and this hat Spantasia ever made you cry, She's.

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<v Speaker 1>Made me cry.

2:42:28.760 --> 2:42:33.959
<v Speaker 2>Fantasia is different, bro, She her passion forms different. When

2:42:34.040 --> 2:42:38.680
<v Speaker 2>her in tank went on that tour her Tank and

2:42:38.879 --> 2:42:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Robin thick bro I would be on the side of stage.

2:42:45.720 --> 2:42:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I just go in the crowd and I just

2:42:47.400 --> 2:42:49.440
<v Speaker 2>sit there and I'm like, I got to just watch

2:42:49.480 --> 2:42:51.720
<v Speaker 2>her appreciate the people.

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<v Speaker 4>She's amazing, She's she's anointed. Yes, she she anointed at

2:42:58.040 --> 2:43:00.680
<v Speaker 4>what she do. I can't wait till she com Miss too,

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<v Speaker 4>a full blown gospel project. That's gonna be incredible. I

2:43:06.160 --> 2:43:07.959
<v Speaker 4>can't wait you if she gets that's gonna be incredible.

2:43:08.520 --> 2:43:13.000
<v Speaker 4>The Leandrew is on there, and then Andrew.

2:43:13.040 --> 2:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I just seen Leandrew at the BT Awards. I love.

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<v Speaker 4>She's anointed. Amazing, that's what I want to see. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>who's going to produce for this artist?

2:43:25.920 --> 2:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Come on, dark Child?

2:43:27.320 --> 2:43:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Come on now, got to he understands.

2:43:32.160 --> 2:43:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Shout out the Dark Child, the Dark Child Man, and

2:43:35.600 --> 2:43:38.600
<v Speaker 2>shout out to the Tree of dark Child.

2:43:39.200 --> 2:43:43.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's the producers. Can you have come from Dark Child?

2:43:44.000 --> 2:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Help me with that.

2:43:45.720 --> 2:43:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Harvey Mason, Junior, Tommy Brown, d Mile, Victoria Monet And

2:43:58.000 --> 2:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>those are just the ones that I can think of

2:43:59.400 --> 2:44:03.720
<v Speaker 2>because you put me on the spot. Just now, Nigga

2:44:04.400 --> 2:44:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Monster that tree because ultimately, then the Underdog Tree is

2:44:08.720 --> 2:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>part of his tree.

2:44:13.360 --> 2:44:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I ain't never work with him, but I'm part of

2:44:15.400 --> 2:44:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the tree. It's crazy.

2:44:19.400 --> 2:44:24.640
<v Speaker 4>That's why I said Rodney. Rodney is special one on

2:44:24.720 --> 2:44:31.000
<v Speaker 4>one one from the tree of Teddy Riley, which is

2:44:31.879 --> 2:44:32.560
<v Speaker 4>for real.

2:44:32.920 --> 2:44:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Which is God? Chad, Bro, I'm so cold for this

2:44:41.320 --> 2:44:43.119
<v Speaker 3>cond twitsh my Riddy.

2:44:42.959 --> 2:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Drakings when I'm sorry who he switched to? Dat? Man? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my vibe. I'm sorry, there's no argument when Davanta's name.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. And Rodney, I love you too, Bro. I'm

2:44:58.840 --> 2:44:59.520
<v Speaker 3>a big fan of you.

2:44:59.640 --> 2:45:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Bro. His tree, the Davante tree.

2:45:02.120 --> 2:45:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Now that's because you have me, Because you got me,

2:45:04.440 --> 2:45:07.280
<v Speaker 4>I want to say, now the tree changes thing. Yes,

2:45:08.400 --> 2:45:10.080
<v Speaker 4>the Davante.

2:45:11.440 --> 2:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Temper jes static, that's my viobe geniu one, that's my vibe. Player.

2:45:22.640 --> 2:45:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Come on, cheers to you, Hey, che staty. I told

2:45:34.879 --> 2:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you how he should be on R and B money. Hey. No,

2:45:40.040 --> 2:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>we can't harmonize though. But I wasn't gonna jump in

2:45:42.440 --> 2:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>there because he was gonna go somewhere. I started seeing.

2:45:46.720 --> 2:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if you went alone, let yes to you, Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>stay on top. Bro. All right, man, we got we

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<v Speaker 1>got one more thing before I let you out of Okay,

2:45:58.480 --> 2:46:04.400
<v Speaker 1>we got one more thing. I ain't saying no niature,

2:46:04.879 --> 2:46:09.039
<v Speaker 1>ain't saying no names, saying no names, saying no name.

2:46:12.240 --> 2:46:26.959
<v Speaker 1>What you need don't say she s My favorite part

2:46:26.959 --> 2:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of the show when when what is Tank doing a

2:46:28.640 --> 2:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>gospel album? That's a good question, Tank, Bro, it's a

2:46:34.160 --> 2:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>good question. Let me doing. You're gonna, You're gonna. That's

2:46:37.600 --> 2:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>why we won't produce it. That's where I want Tank, Bro.

2:46:39.720 --> 2:46:41.520
<v Speaker 4>You know I've done a gospel album, though I'm sure

2:46:41.560 --> 2:46:43.800
<v Speaker 4>you have. Yeah, Man, I asked you when number one.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you.

2:46:44.400 --> 2:46:46.840
<v Speaker 4>I know you be in there in the gospel world

2:46:46.959 --> 2:46:49.199
<v Speaker 4>number one. Bro, Yeah, I know you be in that world.

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<v Speaker 4>All the waited, yes sir, Yes, all the way turned up.

2:46:52.040 --> 2:46:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, but we got a very important part of

2:46:54.040 --> 2:46:56.960
<v Speaker 2>the show. Yes sir, when you tell us the story

2:46:58.520 --> 2:47:02.640
<v Speaker 2>funny or funked up? Are funny and fucked up?

2:47:03.400 --> 2:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>The only rude to the game is Jay White can't

2:47:07.720 --> 2:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>say no name. I can't spend that damn like that

2:47:13.640 --> 2:47:14.280
<v Speaker 1>spent it. Bro.

2:47:14.959 --> 2:47:19.120
<v Speaker 4>There's this artist man that I was working with, and

2:47:19.280 --> 2:47:23.440
<v Speaker 4>we got a good connection for the most part, and.

2:47:25.080 --> 2:47:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I literally.

2:47:27.480 --> 2:47:31.480
<v Speaker 4>Business person has a really bad case of demo artists

2:47:32.480 --> 2:47:36.680
<v Speaker 4>like probably some of the worst demodists I've ever seen

2:47:36.760 --> 2:47:37.280
<v Speaker 4>in my life.

2:47:37.480 --> 2:47:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it got so bad.

2:47:41.240 --> 2:47:43.560
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, listen, I can't send you the songs

2:47:43.560 --> 2:47:48.200
<v Speaker 4>anymore because I got to finish doing my part right.

2:47:48.879 --> 2:47:52.160
<v Speaker 4>They said, no, no, no, it's all good. The room

2:47:52.280 --> 2:47:57.640
<v Speaker 4>had the suits in there, it had the writers in there,

2:47:57.800 --> 2:47:58.360
<v Speaker 4>other whatever.

2:47:58.480 --> 2:48:01.959
<v Speaker 1>It was a full room. The camera men were in there.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, hey, if I give you a bounce

2:48:07.200 --> 2:48:12.320
<v Speaker 4>of this song, you got to promise me that I

2:48:12.400 --> 2:48:14.600
<v Speaker 4>can do my job and I can do what I do.

2:48:16.000 --> 2:48:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And they said no, it's okay, I got you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all good. I said, back on hand bouncing the song.

2:48:22.080 --> 2:48:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Let let them have it. I land back home and Dallas.

2:48:25.560 --> 2:48:29.200
<v Speaker 4>I get a call from their manager and said, hey,

2:48:30.560 --> 2:48:32.360
<v Speaker 4>they said can can No?

2:48:32.440 --> 2:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>No? I told him.

2:48:33.640 --> 2:48:36.040
<v Speaker 4>I said if no, I said, if you do this,

2:48:36.600 --> 2:48:40.360
<v Speaker 4>just know that I won't talk to you no more. Literally,

2:48:42.680 --> 2:48:43.359
<v Speaker 4>they did.

2:48:43.240 --> 2:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>That to me. They they got demitis, okay, okay, and

2:48:48.959 --> 2:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't let me do my job. And I haven't

2:48:51.440 --> 2:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>talked with them no more since. So they was like listen,

2:48:55.879 --> 2:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>so that so okay. So did this song come out

2:48:58.720 --> 2:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>that way? Yeah? But you never touching the song again.

2:49:02.480 --> 2:49:06.760
<v Speaker 3>It came out as a two track bounce that bouncing

2:49:06.879 --> 2:49:08.039
<v Speaker 3>the computer that never.

2:49:08.000 --> 2:49:10.560
<v Speaker 4>Got touched on. Nothing like that, no mix, no masters,

2:49:10.680 --> 2:49:14.240
<v Speaker 4>no nothing. They wanted a house to the world, to

2:49:14.320 --> 2:49:18.520
<v Speaker 4>the world. They mastered that, and to me, that was

2:49:18.560 --> 2:49:21.840
<v Speaker 4>fucked up because they didn't let me do my job.

2:49:21.879 --> 2:49:26.800
<v Speaker 1>And they lied to the people. Insane and that's your

2:49:26.879 --> 2:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>record as much as it's theirs. Yeah, yeah, so.

2:49:29.520 --> 2:49:31.440
<v Speaker 4>That's my fucked up thing. I don't I I don't

2:49:31.440 --> 2:49:33.199
<v Speaker 4>re gotta lot fucked those stories because everybody cool.

2:49:33.080 --> 2:49:35.720
<v Speaker 1>With me for the most part. But was the song

2:49:35.760 --> 2:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>a hit.

2:49:38.160 --> 2:49:40.000
<v Speaker 3>And they'll put some money behind it? I think so,

2:49:40.840 --> 2:49:45.280
<v Speaker 3>But no, it wasn't a hit. You gotta let the producer.

2:49:46.160 --> 2:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta us work man.

2:49:48.640 --> 2:49:50.400
<v Speaker 4>But it was really fucked up because I really liked

2:49:50.440 --> 2:49:53.520
<v Speaker 4>that person. But I got stick to my word. You

2:49:53.640 --> 2:49:56.720
<v Speaker 4>have not spoken to them since. No, I mean, listen,

2:49:56.720 --> 2:49:57.680
<v Speaker 4>all we got is our work.

2:49:57.640 --> 2:49:59.920
<v Speaker 3>And won't because I was dead ass serious.

2:50:00.240 --> 2:50:02.560
<v Speaker 1>So that's the next one. So it's a will and

2:50:03.000 --> 2:50:04.080
<v Speaker 1>is a won.

2:50:05.959 --> 2:50:07.879
<v Speaker 3>I'll be watching too much Dean and Adrian Brennan.

2:50:07.920 --> 2:50:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Bro they be doing that. That's I don't watch it.

2:50:10.520 --> 2:50:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm motivated. Bro, That's why I'm in that gym now.

2:50:13.080 --> 2:50:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying one only see clips. I'm trying to give

2:50:15.800 --> 2:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it is right here, my boy.

2:50:17.920 --> 2:50:19.160
<v Speaker 3>You almost out of here though?

2:50:20.320 --> 2:50:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Are you talking to you? In fact, every day I do,

2:50:23.520 --> 2:50:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like you, I cuss it out all that,

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<v Speaker 1>I cust it off. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>When I look at the mirror, I'll be like, bitch

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<v Speaker 4>the a every every morning.

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<v Speaker 3>What you're looking at? And I work hard? Yeah, I'm working.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working too. I respect it. Bro. Do you see

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<v Speaker 1>me losing a little way though? I do? Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>do no count days.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been in the studio with you and I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen me pick and oh how are you eating? And

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<v Speaker 2>what's in there?

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<v Speaker 1>You see it? Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what the doctor said. I had to

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<v Speaker 3>get on that or I was gonna be out of that.

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<v Speaker 3>The doctor. I went to a doctor. Go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>People, please, please go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 4>Go to the doctor. I had to change my diet immediately. Yeah, immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you've made this change. Bro, got to we

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<v Speaker 4>need you here. I gotta be here and we need

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<v Speaker 4>this music. And just you as a person, bro, like you,

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<v Speaker 4>just you're a good dude. You're a good dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, Hey Man, thank you so much. Bro, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you man for even this opportunity for a kid

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<v Speaker 4>to come from where I come from, to be sitting

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<v Speaker 4>here and having real life industry and real life conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a big deal for me. Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>This is huge, Like this is R and B money, Bro,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know who sat down and talked to you

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<v Speaker 4>and you and ain't Bro what the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>And y'all got little old me that like.

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<v Speaker 4>I still feel like that, like wow, Bro, and I

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<v Speaker 4>thank you for the off conversations just everything.

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<v Speaker 3>But y'all don't know this man. He's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most keep it real I ever met in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>He gonna tell you when you're wrong, when you're right,

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<v Speaker 4>he gonna help correct it because he don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>see you feil And Bro, I really appreciate you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>You're one of the few genuine brothers in this game. Bro,

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<v Speaker 4>and I really appreciate you so much from the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>Of my heart. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, absolutely seriously, thank you so much, love Bro for

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<v Speaker 2>real man, and I appreciate you listening because everybody don't

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<v Speaker 2>listen and the people that don't listen. I stopped talking. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>you told me something yesterday. I've been on it since

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<v Speaker 2>since then.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been on it like literally you said, you say today,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been on it. I have been on it, bro,

2:52:53.000 --> 2:52:56.800
<v Speaker 4>literally been on it, I said. He said that cool. Bro,

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<v Speaker 4>You've been in this game longer than most.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro. What the hell? I know you you know something

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<v Speaker 1>way longer than me, and you know some way more

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<v Speaker 1>than me. So take heed. The best leaders are the

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<v Speaker 1>best listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Man, Like I said, if if I try to,

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<v Speaker 2>if I try to give you what I can see

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<v Speaker 2>or what you know, some insight, I would lend the

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<v Speaker 2>hand as much as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to, but I want to, But you

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<v Speaker 1>want to. I want to make me man, I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see people be successful, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like to see people hit their head.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not that type of person. Oh you got

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<v Speaker 1>to learn on yall.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, man, if I've experienced it and I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>it and maybe I hit my head, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, when you get to this point, you might need

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<v Speaker 1>to turn.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you need something enough credit right now you

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<v Speaker 4>could have let me crash and burn it today.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have. You really could let me just run

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<v Speaker 1>into a wall. You could have. I ain't gonna let

2:53:55.520 --> 2:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that happen, but you really could have. That's the people, man. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, bro. No, absolutely my pleasure, but thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, this has been another amazing episode where I get

2:54:08.879 --> 2:54:10.800
<v Speaker 2>to really hang out with the real people who do

2:54:10.959 --> 2:54:14.040
<v Speaker 2>it and who make this thing happen and who have

2:54:15.360 --> 2:54:20.840
<v Speaker 2>mega man mega smashes hold on becoming super producers.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, Paul, I'm sorry, y'all right now though, and don't lie.

2:54:25.840 --> 2:54:29.439
<v Speaker 4>And then I'm looking to theos Peel deals. Piel, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>You're because I'm a producer bro.

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<v Speaker 4>Of twenty twenty to twenty twenty six. Right now, give

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<v Speaker 4>me your top five producers. It don't got to be

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<v Speaker 4>me either. I'm just saying, give me your top five

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<v Speaker 4>man in the last five years. Five years, man, come on,

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<v Speaker 4>in the last five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one, look at it, I got, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good one. That's a really good one

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<v Speaker 2>of the last five years. London the question London on

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<v Speaker 2>the track is in there for me? Definitely, London on

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<v Speaker 2>the Track is out wonder like that that guy is incredible.

2:55:08.080 --> 2:55:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I've only met him once. Really cool dude, good like that,

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<v Speaker 2>but like incredible, incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay White is in there for sure for me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't got to be there. No, absolutely, bro, what

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<v Speaker 1>you've done in these these years is incredible. I come on, bro, Like,

2:55:23.600 --> 2:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>how could I not mention you? Wow? Hit maker but

2:55:30.160 --> 2:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>show maker. My brother Baker is absolutely in there.

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<v Speaker 3>He's one of the most consistent, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And to me, you know, he may not be

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<v Speaker 2>in there making all the beats as a beat maker,

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<v Speaker 2>but who who James Frontleroy. Oh, I'm never leaving James

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<v Speaker 2>fron Larroy out of any music making conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>James, you know what.

2:55:55.760 --> 2:55:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Cause some people, oh he's the songwriter. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>James fol Roy is more yeah than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And and just off the top of my head, dream

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<v Speaker 2>dream beyond, Like, come on, bro, but he that what

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<v Speaker 2>him and Beyonce you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro? You can't say nothing is I can't say no. Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>They're unexplainable. Yeah, I know. Yeah, they're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make these records today and they're gonna be hits.

2:56:23.480 --> 2:56:27.080
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna make that we're doing country today, we're doing okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now we're back in the hood another hits. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that would be my five off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be my five off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure i'm'na be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah but you bro, Yeah, to have me in there,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you? Not you in there? For sure, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have my own. Now you're not you're not playing besides me,

2:56:46.879 --> 2:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>but anyway you're not playing. But that for me from

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<v Speaker 1>from the twenty twenty to twenty twenty five, yeah, bro, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you got Metro. Yeah, man, I'm all messed up,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, bro. Yeah stick yeah, Bro, that's the biggest record.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro, man Mustard, Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you still got the Bennie Blancos and the

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Luke's and the bro Max Martins and yeah, tough

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<v Speaker 2>and it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough. How about you can can y'all do aline

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<v Speaker 1>like a what you what you want? Man? What? What

2:57:21.000 --> 2:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>like a playoff bracket? The playoff bracket? Yeah, r and

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<v Speaker 1>B money. I've been trying to stay out of the bush.

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<v Speaker 2>Because because when we started doing playoff practice, somebody got

2:57:30.240 --> 2:57:31.080
<v Speaker 2>knocked somebody else off.

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<v Speaker 4>So me personally, it's a football bracket. I got you

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<v Speaker 4>for the football season. I got you got thirty you

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<v Speaker 4>got thirty two names, okay, and you let the fans

2:57:40.680 --> 2:57:40.960
<v Speaker 4>pick it.

2:57:41.120 --> 2:57:45.280
<v Speaker 1>That's all, y'all. These are all your peoples, and you

2:57:45.400 --> 2:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>just put You know what I'm saying. And I know

2:57:47.360 --> 2:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm forgetting some people, but out of thirty two, you're

2:57:50.800 --> 2:57:55.440
<v Speaker 1>not gonna forget. Yeah, out of thirty two. And as

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<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Saw for real, thank you justin what he's done this year,

2:58:04.840 --> 2:58:07.560
<v Speaker 4>this this will be fair in his last year with

2:58:08.080 --> 2:58:13.240
<v Speaker 4>the Clips album, with t I record and now that

2:58:13.520 --> 2:58:15.039
<v Speaker 4>little Baby record.

2:58:15.280 --> 2:58:21.959
<v Speaker 1>Dead Fresh is miss rocket Ship missile. He's alien.

2:58:22.520 --> 2:58:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's alien. Yeah I'm tweaking, but yeah, he's alien.

2:58:25.640 --> 2:58:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I said, I think I named ten at.

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<v Speaker 1>This point, but he's alien. Love him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm Jay Valentine. This is Jay White, and you

2:58:34.280 --> 2:58:36.640
<v Speaker 2>tuned into the R and B Money Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I see y'all next