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Speaker 1: R and B Money than take all the time we

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Speaker 1: are at all things R and D ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jay Valentine and this hill is the R and

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Speaker 2: B Money podcasting Today.

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Speaker 1: He said he ain't ratchet, but he brings all the

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Speaker 1: rachets outside, you know. But you know he's a church

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Speaker 1: boy at heart. Amen, But.

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Speaker 2: He is gonna make you spend that money like a savage.

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Speaker 2: You might go thirty for thirty.

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Speaker 1: You better not miss because he don't miss. Fresh from

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Speaker 1: can see that, you know what.

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Speaker 2: That's why I have on my San Francisco forty nine

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Speaker 2: Ers jersey because in real life he's my football op.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, but I love him because he's my brother.

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Speaker 1: Mister J White did it the winning jay. They got four,

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Speaker 1: we got five. I mean, but y'all.

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Speaker 3: Five is more like Nintendo five. It's like it's like a.

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Speaker 1: Tari You see me still dancing. It's like.

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Speaker 3: It's like, y'all five don't got graphics.

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Speaker 1: I hear you.

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Speaker 4: It's more like I hear you. It's more like it's

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Speaker 4: like two bits, you know what.

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Speaker 1: You know what? Those rings are though, dusty right now

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Speaker 1: forever they are forever, but whatever, they're so old that

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Speaker 1: nobody know where they are. Though. It's it's like rings this.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, like.

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Speaker 2: I hear you how he's trying to play the young

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Speaker 2: nigga role. Like you didn't see all our super same

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Speaker 2: way I did. I really, I mean this.

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Speaker 1: Is you probably just wasn't watch it because you was.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's cool.

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Speaker 3: Listen if the Chiefs ain't playing, I ain't watch it.

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Speaker 1: It's cool, I hear you.

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Speaker 3: But but I want to say that the.

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Speaker 4: Chiefs, you know, now, listen, shout out to the Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: the best team in the recent years, right you. You know,

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Speaker 4: for a fact, I got a couple of championship you know,

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Speaker 4: for a fact, y'all, y'all gave us too.

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Speaker 3: We gave y'all in the fourth quarter. We definitely gave y'all.

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Speaker 1: One the other way, yeah yeah, yeah, but one for

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Speaker 1: sure we gave y'all.

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Speaker 4: You know, that jersey actually makes me happy though I'm

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Speaker 4: not gonna lie. It reminds me of.

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Speaker 1: The greatest receiver of all time. It is, it is.

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Speaker 4: It is just about greatness, and that when I see

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Speaker 4: that jersey, I think great and I think Chiefs together.

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Speaker 1: Greatness. He never played for y'all.

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Speaker 2: Imagine the rice like I could see if I were

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Speaker 2: award in Montana because I got that. Yeah, I see

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Speaker 2: if I the ward that I didn't. Brother, I purposely

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Speaker 2: didn't too, because I'm like, oh, because he's gonna try

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Speaker 2: to claim we were gonna we're not sharing this.

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Speaker 4: This is Jerry Man. Listen, bro, Rice to Ronnie. One

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Speaker 4: thing we share, though, is that that color though, well

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Speaker 4: we do share it s that and and you know

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Speaker 4: y'all got five rings with with beepers and pages on it,

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Speaker 4: and and and we got flat screens with I mean

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Speaker 4: our rings got blue tooth on there. They probably got

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Speaker 4: a speaker on the ring.

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Speaker 1: And hey, you look like a nigga that way the

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Speaker 1: bluetooth ear to walk around. That's you shoot, I mean

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Speaker 1: not what's going on? Sweet baby? Hey, honestly, man first

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Speaker 1: came out, I had them, Hey, man put that on? Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey put that up? Hey. First of all, unc is

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Speaker 1: in unks? Is in unks? With money? Are in oh facts? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ship Miami as hey, unks are in thought not but

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Speaker 1: straight up though, because like the guys were a little

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Speaker 1: pepper and the beard and some paper in their pocket.

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Speaker 1: Let's not do this, bro, Yeah, listen, paper and pepper, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: listen they go together.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, that's pepper, but that's some with some good. Hey,

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Speaker 2: broken ain't getting what he thinks he supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. I've seen brokenk out there. He ain't

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Speaker 1: getting with good. He ain't getting what the people want.

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Speaker 1: I've seen broken.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've been broken.

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Speaker 1: I hear you.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you. It's a little different when you was broke.

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Speaker 2: So he he he, I as you just said it.

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Speaker 4: Paper and pepper, Hey, but you know I ain't really

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Speaker 4: got a lot of pepper though you I mean a

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Speaker 4: little soft. Yeah, so you got but you got a

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, dog, you.

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Speaker 4: See you see the same way you you.

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Speaker 1: I ain't a dolt write too much? You know what

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Speaker 1: It's like I used to, but I still got it.

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Speaker 1: You know I got in. You got a little pin,

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Speaker 1: I see it. Don't play with me like that, brother,

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Speaker 1: can't you shout a little ronnie? Hey? Running Look at this? Hey,

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Speaker 1: sharlot ronnie, do you see this? Shout out my dog,

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Speaker 1: b k shout talent. This was my niggas man. Do

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Speaker 1: y'all see this? Go to the wine Dock County side

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Speaker 1: shout up my figure. Earl wasse shot my figger Joe Man. Listen, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't really with it. Don't don't and don't don't

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Speaker 1: forget you now my name?

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Speaker 2: Come on now what I won't even met you now

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Speaker 2: in passing, So you know, I'm shouting out the people

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I met you know, she

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Speaker 1: was very sweet, very sweet.

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Speaker 2: I'm shouting on my actual homiest Earl Washston took me

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Speaker 2: to the barbershop. Niggas had on two three x tall

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Speaker 2: red teas. Wait you, I said, Oh, I see what

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Speaker 2: time it is.

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Speaker 3: Did you go to go Chicken Go?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we went there though, I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't think we went. Yeah, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: we went. So we're gonna start for people who don't know.

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Speaker 2: But I'm doing this for him, for the Kansas and

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Speaker 2: I want you to I want you to tell us

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Speaker 2: before we even kick this off. Best barbecue for me,

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Speaker 2: Jack Sacks not. I know everybody say Gates. That's why

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Speaker 2: I asked. That's why I asked, Jackson. I know that's

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Speaker 2: your thing out.

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Speaker 1: There, Gates. Please, it's legendary.

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Speaker 4: It's legendary, and please back home. Don't The rib tips

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Speaker 4: are amazing, They're delicious. But Jack Stacks, okay, Jack Jackson,

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Speaker 4: when I was eating heavy.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because you know, we on the different.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the health tip now now when I'm on

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Speaker 4: Jack Sax got my.

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Speaker 2: Brother has the You go to his sessions the finest

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Speaker 2: of the fruits to find it to the fruits.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so what's this one. I've never seen

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Speaker 1: this fruit before that. That is a Bulgarian cherry. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the apple from the Bai.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This water got shipped in from Switzerland.

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Speaker 1: It's nigga rich man.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's go back to the time when you wasn't rich.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to Kansas City. That was last year,

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Speaker 2: now I start, come on, come on, come on, because

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Speaker 2: Bodak Yellow came out about nine years ago.

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Speaker 1: So you've been rich it's been that long. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been making his every year ever since. So

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Speaker 2: but take me back to KC. Man, come on, come on,

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Speaker 2: you know little j White.

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Speaker 4: Let's go further back in Kansas City. Let's let's let

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Speaker 4: me hit you with this. I was born in Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Nigga, you ain't from k C. It is a lie.

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Speaker 1: It's not a lie. It's not a lie. It's a lie.

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Speaker 1: Is Kanye from Chicago? I don't know he was, but

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Speaker 1: now I do know that White is from Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: I was born in Arkansas. I was born in Arkansas

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Speaker 4: apartment your right, all right, it's a population of maybe

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Speaker 4: ten eleven thousand people, right, Okay, But at two years old,

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Speaker 4: two years old, we moved to Kansas.

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Speaker 1: You know where I was born. Where he's where he

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Speaker 1: was born. I was born in that San Francisco man.

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Speaker 1: You was born there? Yeah, I was born there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I did. But as a two year old. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so now you too.

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Speaker 3: I'm now I'm in Levenworth, Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the prison city.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a you know, you know we're we're still

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Speaker 4: in the metroplexus of Juanda, you know we still I'm

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Speaker 4: twelve minutes away, okay, and from from there.

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Speaker 1: So I grew up church. So you grew up in Levenworth, Levenworth,

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Speaker 4: Did your people's work at the prison or something? Because

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Speaker 4: that's all I do at the prison. You mean work

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Speaker 4: at it or what's in it? Okay, all right, when

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Speaker 4: you're in there, you gotta work there. It was so

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Speaker 4: they did work then, and my mama was a part

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Speaker 4: but she wasn't the one that clocked in. She stayed there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: my mama was always in and out out of the prisons.

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Speaker 1: But is that what took y'all?

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Speaker 4: No, no, what what what took us there was my

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Speaker 4: wanted her little family that she loved to come out there.

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Speaker 4: So she picked who she loved.

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Speaker 1: And it was like, y'all need to come here. She migrated.

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Speaker 4: She pretty much forced everybody to come there because my

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Speaker 2: So oh, so it wasn't like a place that you

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Speaker 2: just were born that you didn't go back to you still, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: Arkansas was still a part of your childhood.

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Speaker 1: Yah yeah, yeah, yea yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: And until I got old enough to not go back

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Speaker 4: never really liked being there, if you want to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I've never liked going back home, like to where I'm

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Speaker 4: originally originally from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But you know that's why I always say Kansas

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Speaker 4: is home for me, because that's why I literally that's

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Speaker 4: all I You know, I grew up there. You know,

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Speaker 4: all my friends, all my history, all my happiness, even

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Speaker 4: ups and downs, is in Kansas. But Arkansas was just

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Speaker 4: total downs the whole time it went. Whenever I was there,

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Speaker 4: it was just down. The shout out to your people's

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Speaker 4: man forgetting you there, see Kansas, Yeah, man, and Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: I love you for you.

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Speaker 1: But it for me and everybody knows that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now you're in church every day? Are you already playing

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Speaker 2: in church?

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Speaker 1: As a kid?

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Speaker 3: At eleven years old, I started playing drum?

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Speaker 1: Who identified your island in church? Honestly? Bro? Or did

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Speaker 1: you you want them? Kids? It just snuck on one

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Speaker 1: of the uh, the instruments.

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Speaker 4: It was really nobody man like I literally my my

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Speaker 4: my grandma, rest in peace to her.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: We will always go to singing programs all the time.

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Speaker 1: And what's the singing program? So you never y'a, don't

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Speaker 4: You probably you're black man. You probably knew that. You know,

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Speaker 1: Little a lot of them mine. I mean, everybody knows

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Speaker 3: No, no, that's a negro.

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Speaker 1: I heard that at church. That's a negro. Speare Okay,

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Speaker 1: quesson again? Because got so I started thinking to the Lord, No, no,

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Speaker 1: what you say again? I'm sorry? I said, who identified

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so okay, so quartet singing is pretty much

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Speaker 4: just try to go Haley Singers. See now I don't

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Speaker 1: That's is that quartet singing. Yeah he was a court

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Speaker 4: I never knew that, but from what I was, but

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Speaker 4: that's in North Carolina, right, yeah, okay, so yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: Well my grandmother would go to those church.

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Speaker 1: Little Cedric yeah he said, little Cedric and Haley Singers.

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Speaker 1: Who's little Cedric Casey? Oh snack ah. You look at

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Speaker 1: I didn't look at me, bro I'm now teaching church.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, wealthy, Yeah, I didn't know. He grew up

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Speaker 4: But you know, but my grandmother that was very selective

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Speaker 1: To erik too.

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Speaker 2: So Mighty Clouds is Joy is at Mighty Claus and

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Speaker 4: So we would have to go to church because my

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Speaker 1: The only day you had off was Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Day as you going to school Saturday, Friday, Saturday is

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Speaker 4: Church seven days a week. And I would I love

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Speaker 4: The lived as he can and he get all the girls.

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Speaker 2: So get a drummer, son. That's what they say. No,

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Speaker 2: that's not what they say. You never hey, bro, I

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Speaker 1: I never heard that term as a drummer. Get a drummer.

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Speaker 1: Some I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Everybody love the drummer. Everybody little drummer and the drummers

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Speaker 4: cool Jay White.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna kill you in the comments, Bro, Why that

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Speaker 1: you don't know these things. You have the drummers. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing, bro, whatever, you know what, it's fine,

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Speaker 3: I was never a drummer that wasn't in church.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you didn't went to the you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't come from the freaking church. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I mean I don't call the church that

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Speaker 4: Look I grew up.

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Speaker 1: Look I thought, don't walk in my traps. Bro, Okay,

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Speaker 1: is that what you know? The drummers some ray? Where

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Speaker 1: did you hear that at? I'm curious, seriously, what's your

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Speaker 1: But we got we we got here no music. Give

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Speaker 1: the drummers to the drummers. So y'all heard them? Can

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Speaker 3: I mean I still play a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You trying to figure out what the geese out. If

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Speaker 1: all right, bro? Do anybody like drummers? Hey? Bro, j

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Speaker 1: White did it?

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Speaker 3: It's man TikTok oh my god, bro, snapchat all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm just joking. By the way, you're going to church

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Speaker 1: seven takes a week. Man, you're playing what nothing?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I'm really just watching the musicians. So

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Speaker 1: But you rock with the drummer.

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Speaker 4: You're like, man, the drummer was the one man come

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Speaker 4: in and he he looked fly, he fresh, you know,

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Speaker 4: and he's sitting there like, hey, man, what's up junebu hey,

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Speaker 1: Live? Was the drummer or well, it was.

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Speaker 4: Just I'm just saying that he really there was a jumbug,

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Speaker 4: And I would just see him there had a little

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Speaker 4: reci peace to him as well, and it just be

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Speaker 4: us there while she's cooking. There's a piano on one

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Speaker 1: This one is the main service. That's like the eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like eleven o'clock, you know, like Neon, like eleven

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Speaker 3: That ain't really that was Sunday School.

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Speaker 4: It ain't cracking, No, that was yeah, it was still

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Speaker 4: when people were still coming in. Everybody come to see

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Speaker 4: the choir, the music, the pastors in Nobody the Sunday

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Speaker 1: Right eleven o'clock, is it?

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Speaker 4: I'm there since six am? You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: this day. I'm like, I guess I thought I was

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Speaker 4: she said with a fan look at me too. So

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Speaker 1: All I seen was a quad director turns slowly look around.

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Speaker 4: She told the church down and she and she was

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Speaker 2: It wasn't about age, it wasn't about age. She just said,

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Speaker 4: I ain't have it yet I ain't have it. I

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Speaker 2: And for you, this is everybody you know in life

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Speaker 1: And see me feel And then you had to go

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Speaker 4: Man, you know Black Church, man, Hey, well I don't

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Speaker 1: Hey. They was letting you have it. Now what Man?

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Speaker 4: It was like, Yo, you got replaced by a girl.

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Speaker 4: She could sing, she could play drums, she was just musically. Yes, man,

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Speaker 2: So it put you in a lab. You start you

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Speaker 2: I got the poss and pans.

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Speaker 4: My my uncle was a drummer as well, and I

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Speaker 3: It took me a while to get back on drums

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Speaker 3: Oh I practice?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So you mean as far as where they

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Speaker 3: Front of the yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: But I would go home and I would get you

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Speaker 1: And your grandmama was cool with you being in there

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Speaker 4: My grandma said that I can be and do whatever

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Speaker 4: I want. She's incredible. She always pushing me me to

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And so that's amazing.

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Speaker 4: So she she understood, that's who raised me. She understood

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Speaker 1: White. Yeah wow, the real J. White? Wow? Yeah man?

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Speaker 1: So is that who you have your moniker is? No?

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Speaker 4: Why bro, I hate back back and let's say going

435
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 4: up to two thousand, damn, why not change?

436
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: Like oh four, one of my.

437
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 4: Friends back in the day that it would call me

438
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 4: Anthony Jermaine White, my whole name.

439
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm like you calling my whole name like that. And

440
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: then and then we all got that one.

441
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 4: We got that man, Anthony Jermaine White, I'm like god,

442
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 4: and then it became Jermaine White. And then my boys

443
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 4: when we was in the group, they start saying, man,

444
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: here here comes J.

445
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: White. I said, I'm calling that what the hell a J. White?

446
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: I'm calling that goofy ass name.

447
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm not J. White. My name is Jermaine. I'm Jermaine White.

448
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 4: Say you say that? And then they said yeah, all right,

449
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 4: j White. So anyway, and then after that, I.

450
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: Just you know, so this grow. Yeah. What were you

451
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: doing in the group? Oh man?

452
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 4: I was I was the producer, and I thought I

453
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 4: was like, oh man, bro, you were great. I really

454
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 4: thought back in the day that we was gonna go crazy, man.

455
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 3: Like our group name was called Freelance.

456
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: Okay, freelance? How many members? At first? It was like

457
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: six six freelance? Yea. It was like, and what was

458
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: the freelance doing? Rapping?

459
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 4: Singing and playing instruments too? Are just rapping and singing dancing?

460
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: Six members? Yeah? Man? Yeah? Man? What word? What was

461
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: I doing? What was little Anthony Jermaine doing? At the time?

462
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: I was right there with him, singing or rapping both

463
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: you give them all up. I'm rapping the hooks, I'm dancing. Yeah.

464
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I was skinny too. Oh you know

465
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: what did I was skinny too?

466
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 4: You didn't know that I had him? I had him did?

467
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 4: I was real skinny. I can short clothes with my

468
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 4: boys all that. Yeah, man, we can shut closed the

469
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: same size. So how long did the group last man.

470
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: The group you know, it was young bro, you know

471
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: off in the home.

472
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: This a high school thing or they said, no, this

473
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 4: is after high schools, after high school.

474
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, high school bro. I was in one group.

475
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: It was a singing group, and I can never stay

476
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: on key. Bro, Like there's like Anthony State.

477
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing.

478
00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 2: Those brothers in Kansas and Kansas City can really sing, man,

479
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: They can sing like y'all got a different level of

480
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: singing R and B.

481
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: Bro, that's real.

482
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So I'm sure they were like, yeah, I

483
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: guess he can. Maybe he could do beats or something,

484
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: because they everybody want to kick you out.

485
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 4: They don't want to kick me out. But they kept

486
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 4: saying your note, you keep singing my note, you keep

487
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 4: singing my note. And I was like I would get

488
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 4: nervous because I could never stay on key.

489
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: You knew you was going to eventually sing that. No,

490
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,719
Speaker 1: you knew what was happening absolutely as soon as I started.

491
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: And the song that we wrote was called do what

492
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 4: you want To, and it was do what you want

493
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 4: to do, what you want to do, what you want

494
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: to do, what you want to?

495
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: That harmony part.

496
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: There, Oh yeah, it got tricky it got tricky, it

497
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: was done. Wasn't that great either, it was terrible, Like

498
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: oh that.

499
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 4: Man, I was ain't doing nothing. Do what you want

500
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: to do? Don't do it again? Yo, No, but look

501
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: back then, I'm sorry to the writers. I'm sorry the writers.

502
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: What you mean, man? That was used? Wrote man?

503
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 4: We all wrote there together, do what you want to

504
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 4: to be about eight hours, so it took six man.

505
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: What no, Now now.

506
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: We're getting Look high school, I was in a group

507
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: of four people. After high school, bro yea, then you

508
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: went to the sixth bro I was always like the outcast,

509
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 4: man Like, I was cool in school. Everybody knew me

510
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: for drums and beat boxing and yeah, you know, goofy

511
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 4: whatever like that.

512
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 3: But after that, man, I was I was never the

513
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: popular kid.

514
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 4: I was never the the one that everybody, you know,

515
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: I thought was gonna probably be anything. I was always

516
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 4: the one who would be cool with the ones who

517
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: was never you know, talk to you know, those are

518
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 4: like my type of friends, you know, and my sound.

519
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: I was a super well yeah I was kind of

520
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: geekish y's cool.

521
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah I was, you know, but uh, oh, man, I

522
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 4: don't know, bro. I I never got bullied, but I

523
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: was just never that kid.

524
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: You know.

525
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 4: I was always overlooked, you know, so I would literally

526
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: I found people who was overlooked and we made a group.

527
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 4: That's that's what it was. And we was called Freelance. Well,

528
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: they had a group called Natural the Disaster, Natural Disaster.

529
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: Yes it was the Staff, but London and Saw it was.

530
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: It was an Asian and black kid, a Hawaiian and

531
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: black kid, and a straight Asian kid. It was the

532
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 4: It was that three, y'all.

533
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Thiggas was supposed to be Bruno Mars.

534
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 4: And then we had a Messican man, black Eyed, and

535
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: and two black kids, VG J Rock and J White,

536
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: and then it dwindled down to three.

537
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: Were you part of the three? Still? Yeah? No, you stayed.

538
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: You stayed. You're not with the group. I'm wondering music

539
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: right now. Everybody else is like, I'm done. Man. You

540
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: know how to see this, bro? It's hard, man. This

541
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: is not an easy business you, It's not an easy business.

542
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: Us in group, I was.

543
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: My brothers though we were family, you know what I mean.

544
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: I've never been to a group that wasn't my brother.

545
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: It's like literally my blood, you know what I mean.

546
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: Other than they tried to put me in a group

547
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: when I think I was like thirteen or fourteen, when

548
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: I wasn't even I didn't want to sing no more.

549
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: I was kind of going through my little stage or

550
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: whatever of rebellion against singing. And they tried to put

551
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: me in a group and that I went on one

552
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: trip and I was like, yeah, then he was done.

553
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

554
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: They tried to make us a band too, like playing. Yeah,

555
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: so I was going to be the lead singer of

556
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: a kid band.

557
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: Ah, that doesn't work. No, I wouldn't. You don't think

558
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: it's why were weak?

559
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: I thought, really to me, to me, but you can

560
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure that you know the adults that were their

561
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: mindset of what, you know, what this was going to be.

562
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: You understand though too, though I was also I had

563
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: already had a record deal at ten and an album out.

564
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: So now I'm coming to this where you're like, oh, yeah,

565
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna develop.

566
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not doing that, bro.

567
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: I just and at that listen and at the time,

568
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: I just wasn't in the mindset of being in a

569
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: group anyway. At this point, I'm hoping my whole life

570
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: has changed, you know what I mean, I'm back in

571
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: the hood. Back home because shit then went left. I

572
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: don't want to sing no more, and I'm like, I

573
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: don't play instruments. So and here's the thing too, where

574
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: people have to realize in music, musicians and just singers

575
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: sometimes don't click. Musicians that sing, oh man, they'll click

576
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: with the other musicians, but guys who just sing usually

577
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: just kick it with niggas who sing. So put me

578
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: in a group where I'm the only singer, or the

579
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: band where I'm the only singer. I just it wasn't clicking.

580
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: I was only there for a few days.

581
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: And he was by you.

582
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 3: You like, man, you walked down, you said now.

583
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm out, come out, come out. Jake on.

584
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: Everybody was cool too, but I was like, yeah, it's

585
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: the same. It's not for me. It just wasn't. It

586
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: just wasn't for me.

587
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: So you out of high school, I'm out of high school.

588
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: In the group, man, it's down to three guys.

589
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: It's done. It's done, three guys. Man.

590
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: At what point do you say to yourself, I gotta

591
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: get a job, man, I gotta do this music full time.

592
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: Are you do you have a job while you're doing

593
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: this group? Yeah?

594
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 4: Man, I kept a job in high school? Okay, you

595
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: always worked, yeah, yeah, I kept a man. I always

596
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: worked from yay man, cutting grass or whatever.

597
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't what's your what's been your worst job? First job?

598
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: Dang, bro, I ain't. I'm not gonna lie, bro. I've

599
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: made all my jobs fun.

600
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: You know. I can see that. I can see that

601
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: with you.

602
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: So it's like, I ain't never had a job that.

603
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, Man, you know what.

604
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 4: I had one job, man, we was making cups, plastic cups.

605
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: Man.

606
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: It was what you're doing all day long, oh man,

607
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: all day man. I couldn't. I hate that job, bro,

608
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: what are you doing?

609
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: You just he's just like molding.

610
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: You just making cups and you're putting in a box.

611
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: The little cup is hot. You put in a box

612
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 4: hours on hours, cups, plastic.

613
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Cups, over and over and over, over and over.

614
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: I said, no, I did one week, said let me

615
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: do this one week. I need to check.

616
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: So the plastic cups job is the worst.

617
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: That was the worst, the worst job ever because I

618
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: couldn't It was nothing creative in there. I just couldn't

619
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: even I couldn't walk around walking around.

620
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: It was a station. It was one station, and I

621
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: had older kids saying, oh man, it's gonna be all good.

622
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: Young blood. He had probably been there years.

623
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: Man, he's definitely man. He was a team league.

624
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: He was like, no, man, you can take these cups home.

625
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: You can, man what Bro, I'm young, Bro, I'm on

626
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: these cups. You could take them home, take them home

627
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: and do what.

628
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: Couch surfing? Bro, you can gota where to go at

629
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: that time.

630
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Don't nobody wants your plastic wants my plastic cups.

631
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: Many letting me sleep on the couch, guys, Oh man,

632
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: about you're a fifty pack of cups.

633
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: I slept on many couches, Bro, Like this couch right

634
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: here look good, nice and comfortable.

635
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Well all you found me a prop.

636
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: And you're still in Kansas City at this point though,

637
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: absol frequutely, and you're.

638
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: Just kind of going from job to job, job to job, bro.

639
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: Like I remember my uncle got me a job at

640
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: the golf course where he worked up and it was

641
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: it was go to work that day or go to

642
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: a show that day with my group. And I've always

643
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: been optimistic, like, man, I do this show.

644
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Man, we can change our lives. Man, you just never know.

645
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: And now this is a show I did a show,

646
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: of course. Okay, nobody showed up to the show. Nobody

647
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: showed up except for like a few of our friends,

648
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: first family, like maybe ten people that we know that

649
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: we came with.

650
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: And literally I got fired that day too.

651
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: But I never cared about getting fired though, because I

652
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: always knew that that one of my found destination. But

653
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: I got fired from from the job I got me

654
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: and I was washing dishes at the golf course and

655
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: sometimes helping them with the golf course stuff. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

656
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: but I always knew going into certain places, I'm not

657
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: gonna be there. Loan, and I've worked at Taco Bell Express.

658
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: I was a janitor for a little while.

659
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: Is Taco Bell Express as the one that's like mixed

660
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: with the other restaurant, it would be like two restaurants.

661
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: Well, so back in the day, you know on posts,

662
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: you know fort like Port Levelmorth in the area, you

663
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: got Taco Bell Express his peace, so you got just

664
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: a smaller one. It's like a food court. It's a

665
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: very so okay, okay, yeah, it's about the biggest room.

666
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: Gotcha, you know what I mean. He worked at the

667
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: Taco Bell.

668
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: Killing it too, killing it every way I could. When

669
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 4: I was broke, I killed it. Like when we was there, man,

670
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 4: we we had this thing where you know, I'm grown

671
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 4: now y'all can't do.

672
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: Nothing now, but what you do? Bro man?

673
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: Listen, bro it was broke man, So I came with

674
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: this plan. This plan was I said, we're still in Tacos,

675
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: bro Man, still you know, wasn't getting my just due.

676
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 4: And now now now, now look, I didn't have no money.

677
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: It was only getting paid six forty five an hour

678
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: back then, come on, broke, and I'm young. I'm young,

679
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm what to do.

680
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 4: So we would purposely mess up orders and oh my bad.

681
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: We'll throw it away and I'll just take it to

682
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 4: the back to the break room. I'll ask you man,

683
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: what you want again. I just personally make it and

684
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: be like this ain't.

685
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: What I ordered. Oh that ain't cool.

686
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: Or on a break, will we'll we'll we'll all shift

687
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 4: and go. You know, well, well we'll be like it's

688
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: your trying to go on breaks, so you're paying for food.

689
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: We'll take out a dollar and we'll just gonna pay

690
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 4: a dollar and but we'll make like a million things though.

691
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: Then we'll just take it. We'll just take it to

692
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 4: the bat and eat.

693
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: That's how I you survived.

694
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: But listen, shout out to Taco Bell because they also

695
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: have a program that like feeds up and coming musicians.

696
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: Really yeah. Also, I was just doing it early. You

697
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: was just doing early. Shout out to my brother Shane.

698
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: He's actually to see see of Taco Bill shright, it's

699
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: a brother.

700
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

701
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, most people don't know that. Shout out to that

702
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 4: brother man, good dude.

703
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. They literally have a program for like up and

704
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: coming artists that really yeah they support Okay, well then

705
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: maybe they understood. I hope they do still back then

706
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm listen, I'm gonna call shout out to this and

707
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: be like, listen, man, you know Jay, why you know

708
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: all to me here records? You helped him? You did?

709
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: You did because look like them them brdidas to Gorda.

710
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: Them them on the would have been on the Mexican

711
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 4: piece Meskan Pi n on it out of eight thousand

712
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: until I have fell out.

713
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: Bro, listen, bro, and and I would hold you up.

714
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: Bro. You and you working with me? You red with

715
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: me or you jac this is my express Oh that's

716
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: my I'm on all this.

717
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: If if gonna be youngest Bro, I was employee of

718
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: the month two times in a row.

719
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, Bro, I'm gonna have fun.

720
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: Was employed while you were still in Gorditas. Is it

721
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: stealing or white white were helping you survive?

722
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 4: I'm surviving. This ain't stealing, man. That ain't the way

723
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 4: you say it. Yeah, d Bro, you make it sound

724
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 4: so bad.

725
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: We're all we're gonna get to that now. I'm just

726
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: saying my head on on.

727
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: So at what point the you say yourself, these court

728
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: Deitas ain't gonna do it.

729
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: I got I got to leave Kansas. I gotta go

730
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: somewhere so I can really go through this music.

731
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 4: It wasn't the Gordidas because it's my say the own

732
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: me love Gordidas and that was recent me still, but

733
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: hey it bro, if you want to just go there, bro,

734
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: what I got by the Kansas?

735
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: Man?

736
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: Look my my my group shot the staff in London

737
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: and Jay Rock BG inside man, those guys I love

738
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: them to this day. He's still my guys, still my brothers, man.

739
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: But you know, it just wasn't cutting. You know, everybody

740
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 4: got personal things going on, you know what I mean.

741
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: And at the time I started djaying with my guy

742
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 4: Scottie Mack with my Maaser. At the time, I was

743
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 4: DJ and Lawrence Kansas, and I started staying with them

744
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 4: with him for a minute, but then I I DJ.

745
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 4: I had a job at night at a grocery store

746
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: and I worked in the daytime, so I was really

747
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 4: getting no sleep. But then all of a sudden, man,

748
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: I you know, it was I got somebody pregnant. M

749
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: I said, Oh my god, real life, real life hit me.

750
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: I said, what, I'm just twenty one, twenty two years old, gotcha?

751
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: She pregnant and whatnot. And I'm working. I'm working. I'm working,

752
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 4: and shout out to Kate Briscoe kpe brisco Me and

753
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: her have been working because now I'm I'm I'm in

754
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: winedot now i' mess so I'm living. Yeah, brisko. Man,

755
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: I stayed down street from her, you know what I mean.

756
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 4: I've known her since fourteen, like he or so, like

757
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 4: she was.

758
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: She was.

759
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 4: She would come to my basement parties in the crib

760
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: and whatnot. But I would go her crib and were

761
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 4: working on songs. We'll work on whatever. And she moves

762
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: to Atlanta and she meets uh these managers by name

763
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 4: of Mace and Eddie and she's showing my music and

764
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: at the time, Bro, and this is where the sacrifice

765
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: really started for me and making tough choices, you know.

766
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 4: And my Mama always taught me before she passed away.

767
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: She she she, she.

768
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 4: Said, Anthony, you gotta make a choice or a decision.

769
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: She said, with my life, I've always made a choice

770
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: and it and it may not have been good for whoever,

771
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: but I'm okay with the way I've chose to live

772
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: my life no matter what happens to me, good or bad. Anthony,

773
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: always know I chose this life. So always remember to

774
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 4: make a choice, you know, and don't regret it. Because

775
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 4: she's like, I don't regret nothing. I said, Wow, okay, Ma,

776
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: so I and this is just private before her passing, Man,

777
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: I made a choice when my daughter was born. A

778
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: week after my dart was born, Bro, I worked at

779
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 4: medicare and I worked at the grocery store at night.

780
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: An opportunity came.

781
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: Can Brisco hit me like, hey, you should come to

782
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: Atlanta because you know we're finna work with Jazzy Faye.

783
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 4: At the time, shout to Jazzy, you know we're finna

784
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 4: do this. We're finna do that. And at the time,

785
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: you know, there are some things that was told to

786
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 4: me pretty much like hey, you'll be okay, like you'll

787
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 4: be all right, like just come and I said, man,

788
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: but I got a job.

789
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: I got this.

790
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 4: My daughter was just born a week ago, and it's like, nah,

791
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 4: it's gonna be okay, blah blah blah. So I talked

792
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 4: to my daughter's mom and I talked to her parents.

793
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: I'm just like, hey, this is what's going on. I

794
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: don't know what to do because y'all know I do

795
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 4: music and this is a big opportunity Jazzy fayce Jazzy

796
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: Faye at the time, and it's Atlanta is the opportunity

797
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: is just there, and you know, it was pretty much

798
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: like it was my choice, you know.

799
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: And I went to Atlanta And were you okay when

800
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: you got because you know you're gonna be okay.

801
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: I wasn't okay. Yeah, I wasn't okay.

802
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 4: I understood what real life was and survival was then,

803
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: you know, and I learned that I don't want to

804
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: depend on nobody.

805
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Don't nobody else. So you got a job when you

806
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: got to Atlanta too? No, no, no, no, No, that

807
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: was that was man.

808
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: Each each time I wanted a job. Man, my my, my, man.

809
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 4: May's look here. Don't be mad, bro, but it's like no, no, Jase,

810
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: like no, you make beats.

811
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: And not makes the rapper guys either, this is a

812
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 3: whole different type Max, But no, you make beats. He

813
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: had a condo that we always stay in and whatnot,

814
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: and I just made beats all day.

815
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: And when it was trying to go see Jazzy, he

816
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 4: would pick us up and we go see Jazzy or

817
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: whoever else that he had set. And everything that was

818
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: said to me to get me out there, just that

819
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: just wasn't the case.

820
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: You know. It just didn't work out like that.

821
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: So now I look like I left both my jobs

822
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: and came out here with the brand new baby, chasing

823
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 4: the dream.

824
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: Chasing the dream?

825
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 4: What that looked like to somebody else who don't understand

826
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 4: chasing the dream? Oh yeah, no, it's everything is falling apart,

827
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: everything's falling. You're the worst person on the planet, the

828
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: worst person on the planet, because of your choice.

829
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Because of my choice, because much choice. Yeah, I understood that.

830
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: Though, how long did it take for anything to break

831
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: through for you? Why are you in Atlanta are just

832
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: anything breakthrough in Atlanta, nothing how long you're there.

833
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: I'm different about a year, bro like, but look, nothing's cracking.

834
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: I was supposed to get a deal with Jazzy Fass

835
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: at the time, I was his first producer ever that

836
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: he was gonna sign.

837
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: And it fell through.

838
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 4: I was already depressed, man, Like, my daughter's mom was

839
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: calling me like, hey, when you come back up here.

840
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: When you're gonna see you know, when you're gonna do this,

841
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: when you're going whatever. And I would go back a

842
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,479
Speaker 3: little bit, but you know, I'm broke.

843
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 4: So I had to figure it out, you know, every

844
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: now and then, you know, one day I asked one

845
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: of my people is to get me a flight back

846
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: to Kansas because I you know, and this is and

847
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: the contract is done. It's like in the final stages

848
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: of me signing in May. By a week, I told Jazzy.

849
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: I said, Jazzy, I'm gonna go home, bro, just to

850
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: see my daughter. He just had a daughter too, so

851
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: he understood. He's like, dang, I want you to go

852
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: somewhere with me, But all good, just whatever. I go

853
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 4: to Kansas City, Man, I get a phone call from

854
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 4: you know, our manager at the time two in the morning.

855
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: He said, J. J. White, I'm sorry, but yeah, that

856
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: the deal is done is over of table soft table.

857
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: I said, huh, what you mean is off the table.

858
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, I'm yeah, that's yeah, and then he

859
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: just pretty much hung up the phone and.

860
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm just left like, Okay, I had little advance coming.

861
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: You had already spent that in your head too, you know, because.

862
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: I already told my baby mama that, you know, I

863
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 4: got some with blyping and this, you know whatnot And

864
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: because I came to cancel, like with five hundred dollars

865
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: on me.

866
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: That's it. No bank count on nothing, I understand.

867
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: And now you're back in can If you don't go

868
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: back to Atlanta from there.

869
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 4: Hell no, hell no, hell I'm stuck and the money

870
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 4: and until I get a job, back to the job.

871
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: I got a job.

872
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: Probably about maybe May, maybe a year later, because man,

873
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: you know, I'm hustling beats at this time. You know,

874
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: I'm selling beats, you know, so you selling them in

875
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 4: the hood now, yeah, man, I'm I'm with the game

876
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: making a couple of dollars. Yeah, man, you're selling beats

877
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 4: for two hundred dollars two yeah, man, hey, yeah, you

878
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: can't entertainment.

879
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: Man.

880
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 4: Those guys are blessing me, broy. But when I was

881
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: down for a minute, they would come through every two

882
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: weeks and buy ten beats.

883
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: So you making two thousand and every two weeks? Yeah,

884
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: fourth or for a little while yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

885
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: but you know, not smart, no bank account, right, you're

886
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: running through it? What? Man?

887
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 3: And my group was kind of like around.

888
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Still, so it's like, yo, are you back in the

889
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: group now too?

890
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: We had Nerve penicially broke up, man, but I'm back

891
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: in Kansas, back Kansas.

892
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: We're back.

893
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: We don't figure it out, listen, man, come on, man,

894
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 4: I got got for the team. I got beef clothes,

895
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: no clothes, I ain't gonna yeah it's closed, or if

896
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: they need something paid, yeah whatever, but I'm just spending

897
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: them like it's all good.

898
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: But I gotta y'all got it fly? How long does

899
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: this last? About a few months? A few months, a

900
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: few months? What happens after that?

901
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 3: I'm broke?

902
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: I listening, We're gonna always be broken, broke in list

903
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm broke. If it dry up and it drives up.

904
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm back figuring it out, and I, you know,

905
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 4: I get a job at this place called Target Marketing,

906
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: where what we did was we helped people pretty much

907
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: fill our applications to go to school. And that's that's

908
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 4: what I did, Man and man as a job. Man

909
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: a job was bro to get that job. Me and

910
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 4: my boy for London Man, Me and him would there

911
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 4: was this promotion going on at a casino where they

912
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: would give us like these free scratch offs and they

913
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 4: would let us gamble with it. Whenever money we made

914
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: or we won, we can keep it. That's how we survived,

915
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: getting gas, money to go to work, all that, eat

916
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: and all that. So we would wake up early, go

917
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: to the casino. Yeah, gamble a little bit because this

918
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 4: is the boats too, right, the boats and whatnot. Yeah,

919
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 4: but but we but this one was downtown and so

920
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 4: we we went there and.

921
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: And for a while, that's how we got to work.

922
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 4: Bro and I started making some money at the job

923
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 4: and whatnot. I was able to you know, I'm oncely okay,

924
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: I'm taking care of my you know, I'm giving the money.

925
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 4: You know, okay, here got your head above water. I

926
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 4: got you, I got you. I'm in a you know.

927
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: Apartment, you know what I mean. Like, I'm you know,

928
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: you becoming an adult at this man, I'm like that

929
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: he's starting to feel whatever.

930
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: You know, I'm all right, man, like we bro, I'm

931
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 4: still I'm making beasts though, and and I'm tired. But

932
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: after a call, that call stressed me out, man, I

933
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: literally and in the place, man, I just laid my

934
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: head back. Now, before that, there was this girl who

935
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 4: stood up a week prior a supervisor and said, Anthony,

936
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 4: I don't know why you keep doing all that music

937
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 4: and stuff for it ain't like you don't ever make it.

938
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: And this is in front of the whole floor, and

939
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: I was like, damn.

940
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: At the church when you play drums or something.

941
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 4: Nah, damn you bro, you got it now, Bro, I'm

942
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: sitting there like yo, I'm like it's cool.

943
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: It's cool. It's like it's like you got to say

944
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: it to him like that, you know, you don't know

945
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: his life, blah blah.

946
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: It was like he was like nah because he always

947
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 4: my music about like like like he gonna ever make

948
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 4: it and whatnot. So anyway that that next week, you know,

949
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 4: I had a long night making beats.

950
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: Someone.

951
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: Now I'm trying to hustle be still. At the same time,

952
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 4: it made grew. I'm just whatever, I don't care. I

953
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 4: get to work and that call is stressful.

954
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: Man. I lean my head back, like.

955
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: Bro, I swear on my day off, Bro, I get

956
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 4: a call from the management team and literally no way,

957
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 4: yeah bro, literally Craig.

958
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: Huh, you're crag Craig. Bro.

959
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 4: It's like it's like Anthony, I'm so, were you sleeping

960
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 4: on the job? I said, no, I wasn't sleep. I said,

961
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 4: I wasn't sleep. I'm just I was tired, I said.

962
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 4: After the call, I just laid my head back because

963
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 4: it was it was a long call. She said, well,

964
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 4: blah blah says that you were you were sleeping and

965
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 4: unfortunately that sounds like you were sleeping and we have

966
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: a no sleep policy. So gonna let you go, but

967
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: you can come people to check. Thank you so much

968
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 4: for working for us, and blah.

969
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. I said, just like that, y'all. I'm

970
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: so sorry, got fired on your day off, got fired

971
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: on my date off, man, I said, he said, didn't

972
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: have you on camera steal in boxes? Boxes?

973
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 3: You mean tacos?

974
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, like in Friday they had Craig he

975
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: was he was, it was wasn't he ain't still said

976
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: they had me on tape. I ain't say that when

977
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: they told you was sleeping, I ain't. I wasn't sleep

978
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: on No, but it was my words, her word, but

979
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: it was her word. But they they didn't like me.

980
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't the same girl that says you wasn't gonna

981
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: be no. It was her friend. They was conspiring against you.

982
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: Bro, so she didn't think he was gonna be nothing.

983
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: And the other one didn't want you to have a job.

984
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: She said, I got you, And what's so crazy? It

985
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: was one of my boys in the group.

986
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: It was a girl.

987
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: I knew he was gonna a man yo yo, but

988
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 4: but it was a blessing. Though, man, listen, man, each

989
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 4: each thing is a blessing. And the man each I

990
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 4: got fired. I just know that what my purpose. It's like, yeah,

991
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 4: it's all good, It's like whatever cool?

992
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: Does that lead to the call to get to New York? No,

993
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: that was we actually skipped over that part.

994
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: Skipped over New York. Yeah, no, we can't skip over

995
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: New York's. New Yorkers want to get cracking.

996
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: We definitely hit them in New York a little bit.

997
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 2: Atlanta's not before New York. New York briefly is before Atlanta.

998
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh you go to New York first?

999
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: When I was super young?

1000
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, like nineteen year old, twenty year old young,

1001
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: like briefly, I got to go to New York. I

1002
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: met these people off a black planet though, you remember that.

1003
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: I remember I wasn't a black Planet person, but nouse.

1004
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 2: That was like more of like a dating site, wasn't it,

1005
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: Like Hey, it's whatever you want?

1006
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, I wasn't into it. I was in the

1007
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: music chatrol the Valentine didn't have a black planet really, no,

1008
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: out of my space, well that was before my space.

1009
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: Brother know that.

1010
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: Jermaine eight seven, Oh oh, Jermaine nine one three that

1011
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 4: was the page, not one three kN city So listen,

1012
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 4: jeez h black planet, yeah man, black planet bro. So

1013
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 4: I met this this guy, Jermain forster Man from Barbados,

1014
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: but he lived in New New York.

1015
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: Man.

1016
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: He wrote in the check can anybody remake care of

1017
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: being Queen? I said I can't. I can't, you know

1018
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: what I mean. But I'm like, I can do anything.

1019
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: It took me three months to remake that kid Bro,

1020
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: because I was okay planning, but you know that's hilarious.

1021
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 4: I always thought bigger than what I what what I

1022
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: could do Bro. So anyway, Bro, I have a coolationship

1023
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: with him and his manager.

1024
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: Bro and Brian. Yeah, Bro, it's bad now, but look

1025
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: they were like, Man, you're cool. Man.

1026
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: He was like, how about this. How about you come

1027
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: to New York. You can stay with us. We got

1028
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: an extra room as long as you make beats for

1029
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 3: Jermaine for free, I said, bet, So, I.

1030
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: Go to New New York. Bro and.

1031
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 4: Dale in Jamaine Forester Man, I was in Saint Aubin's

1032
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 4: Queen's one hundred ninety seven the Murdock, where ll Cooj

1033
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 4: is from. Right so at the time, months later Mster

1034
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 4: LLOJ was throwing a back to school event and I'm

1035
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: really not like, I'm really a shy person, Bro, I

1036
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: really don't like being around a lot of people like

1037
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 4: I would rather not. You know I know that about you.

1038
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: I would rather not. But my phone was off at

1039
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 4: the time. I'm looking out the window and I see

1040
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: just I seen ll I've seen security, I seen all

1041
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 4: these people from so I'm across the street from the park. Literally,

1042
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 4: I could just like that's literally across the street is

1043
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 4: a small street. I said, Man, Nah, I ain't doing that.

1044
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: So I'm bored. Man, I'm tireding on my space. Man,

1045
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go outside. So instead of walking across the

1046
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: street directly into the crowd, I walk down the street

1047
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 4: and go up and around. I hear this guy say

1048
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: MTV Awards. He was leaned over in the car saying

1049
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 4: MTB Awards. I said, let me stop right here, let

1050
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: me kick rocks until he's done talking.

1051
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: Because he said MTV awards.

1052
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: So I don't know what he's talking about, but I need.

1053
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: To know who he is.

1054
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: Because he said MTV awards. He came back from him

1055
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 4: or something like that. So I approached him. I said, Hey,

1056
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 4: my name's J White. I'm Can'a City. I just got here.

1057
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 4: My keyboard is in the house right here, I said,

1058
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 4: I got beats. I don't know what you do, but

1059
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 4: you want to hear him? He said, get his friend?

1060
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 4: He said, sure, why not? Hey, you know this man

1061
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: from canapeng. I invited this perfect stranger into some more

1062
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 4: strangers houses.

1063
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: The black man to be there making beach for tripping whatever.

1064
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: Bro, Like, that's how I felt, man, I'm like Kanye,

1065
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 3: we your man.

1066
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: He in New York. So he follows you into the crib,

1067
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: into the crib that ain't your.

1068
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 4: That ain't mine. I had a young hogh motive that

1069
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 4: my friend's staff gave me. That was in a group.

1070
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 4: He said, nah man, pretty much like you're the chosen one.

1071
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: Pretty much like, ah, bro, this is you. I said,

1072
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: for sure, I want let you down.

1073
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: Baby.

1074
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: I played beasts for him in the headphones and he

1075
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: just shakes his head like.

1076
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: It's good.

1077
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 4: I said, you like him? He said, it's good. He

1078
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 4: gives me a card it says shafty and Tea. He said, Yo,

1079
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 4: let's work tonight. I still don't know who he is. Yeah,

1080
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying, so I'm green as hell. This man gonna

1081
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 4: hit me and be like, all are you ready to work?

1082
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 4: It's twelve am. I said, hold on, we're trying to

1083
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 4: rob me or something. We're trying to you, trying to

1084
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 4: take me out, Like what's good? So I told Dale.

1085
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: He was like nah. Yeah.

1086
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: He's like nah, I mean you can go. You're gonna go?

1087
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: I said, nah. He trying to pick me up and

1088
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: take me to his house of working work on some

1089
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: music at twelve am. I said, who do that?

1090
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 4: At the time, I said, I ain't doing that. I said, yo,

1091
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 4: can you come at twelve noon tomorrow? He said yeah.

1092
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 4: I said, oh good. And from there and that that

1093
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 4: shaft by the way. He told me this, he said

1094
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 4: at his crib. He said, Jay White, You're not the

1095
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 4: best producer I've seen or been around, but what you

1096
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 4: got your work ethic is amazing, and I know you're

1097
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 4: going to be good, you know. And he would have

1098
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 4: me in his hot basement cops too young to get

1099
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 4: in the clubs with him.

1100
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll just be working.

1101
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: He believed in you, He believed in me, and I

1102
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 4: will always be working on tracks and beats. And you know,

1103
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: at the time he was with Little Cam, he was

1104
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 4: with he was working with bad Boy a lot. Like

1105
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 4: he was working. He was doing his thing. He was

1106
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 4: throwing parties and producing, you know. And I didn't know

1107
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 4: who he was until that, you know. So anyway, we

1108
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: get to New York. Let's fast forward.

1109
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: I uh, so you left New York at that time,

1110
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: but came back. I left New York.

1111
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 4: Now you have the relationship. He told me. I only

1112
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: left because I was homesick. You know he put out

1113
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: a lot of money. He gave me two hundred dollars.

1114
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 4: I said, okay, shop. He said, Yo, come back though,

1115
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: I said, shot, what you mean I'm coming back? What

1116
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 4: you mean I'm just going to visit? He said, Jay

1117
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: come back. I said, I am coming back.

1118
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: Bruh. How many years? A decade later? You don't come

1119
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: back for ten years? Bro? Hey man listen, bro along

1120
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: in his blessing. I get back, Bro, I get back

1121
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: to Kansas and guess what, You're back and can't see

1122
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: the life that job. No, My guys like, yo, let's

1123
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: just do the group thing. I said, Hell, why not,

1124
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: He's back to the group.

1125
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 4: That's my groupse my brothers man like, I'm gonna go

1126
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 4: down with the group.

1127
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: I said, for real, man, you sure, bro, y'all want

1128
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: to do this? Man? For real? They said yeah.

1129
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, we're gonna make it.

1130
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 1: Bro.

1131
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: I know we're gonna make it. We gonna make it

1132
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 4: right here, man. And of course it didn't make it.

1133
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: But ten years bro.

1134
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, But Shaft so important to the story because

1135
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: I don't.

1136
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, Shaft, who do you work for? Bro? Like,

1137
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: what agency do you work for?

1138
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 4: Because how you calling my friends checking on me with

1139
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: my phone was off. He would call my friends, sit

1140
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 4: next to me, how do you have these numbers?

1141
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: How do you know?

1142
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: He was tapped in with everybody tapped in. And he

1143
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: will always check on me throughout my through I thought

1144
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 4: that that decade, whole decade, he will always check in,

1145
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 4: always see what I'm doing, how I'm doing.

1146
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: Do I got beats? Him?

1147
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 4: I'm still making beats. He will always make sure I'm

1148
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 4: still working. Even when I wasn't working, he will always

1149
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 4: still call me. He will find a way and he'll

1150
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 4: tell me what he's doing. Blah bah blah. So I

1151
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: give act to New York. Now, before that, I was

1152
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: in Dallas. Now you know I was in I had

1153
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 4: moved to Dallas, and man, during during that ten years,

1154
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: my mom got murdered. You know, in twenty fifteen, she

1155
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 4: she got heard and I appreciate it. Man, you know,

1156
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 4: she she got murdered. And after that, you know, now

1157
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 4: I got two kids. Now you know I got two kids,

1158
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: Like I got a young son at the time, and

1159
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 4: my daughter is getting older. You know, I was just

1160
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 4: a little bit older than man going through that. That

1161
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: was like one of the times like yeah, man, going through.

1162
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 4: That was very traumatic, bro. And uh yeah, man, that yeah,

1163
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: that that changed a lot for me.

1164
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1165
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 4: It made me feel like I had nobody else because

1166
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: my mom didn't raise me. But that was like my

1167
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: best friend. Man, Like she had me young at sixteen,

1168
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: and I always just looked over her. I always just

1169
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 4: and when when she was in jail, it's like that

1170
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 4: was like my daughter almost like Mom, okay, all right,

1171
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 4: here's some money wherever I had, I son, come on,

1172
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 4: let me mike. I remember one time, man, she she

1173
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 4: called me. I was in line of going to a club.

1174
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 4: She kept calling me, and I said, mam, what's up?

1175
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 4: She said, talk to me, talk to me. I said,

1176
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: for what she said, because everybody's doing crack around me

1177
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 4: right now, and I need you to talk to me

1178
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 4: so I won't do it. So I stood out there

1179
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: in the cold, snowing whatever. And I stood out there

1180
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: for like thirty forty minutes, bro, and I just I

1181
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 4: talked to my mom to she got a ride to

1182
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 4: come pick her up so she.

1183
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: Wouldn't do no drugs.

1184
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, man, And that was the reallyson my mom

1185
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: had ever been with me. She was like they doing

1186
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 4: crack around me. Blah, blah, I don't want to do

1187
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: it anything. I don't want to do it. Just talk

1188
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: to me, please, just talk to me. Me hearing your voice,

1189
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: I won't do it. Yeah, I just I say, I'm

1190
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 4: freezing cold. But my mama need me to talk, you

1191
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I'm gonna talk. But anyway, my

1192
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: mom was murdered. That was like my best friend and

1193
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 4: she's my biggest cheerleader.

1194
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: And man, I didn't want to be here no more. Bro.

1195
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 4: I I wanted to off myself, man, really did. And

1196
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 4: I tried, you know, and thank god, you know for me,

1197
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 4: you know, not that's not happened, Thank god.

1198
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: Man.

1199
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: So what do you feel like change that for you?

1200
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: Or saved you from or stopped you? Saves you for sure,

1201
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: but stopped you from, you know, going through with it

1202
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 2: because you could still try.

1203
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?

1204
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: Like you know my mom, bro, my mom? You know

1205
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 4: you know I was very dramatic with it.

1206
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: Bro. I'm not gonna lie. Man.

1207
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 4: I was dramatic, bro, because I was. I'm depressed. Man,

1208
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 4: It's like during that time, it's such a blur for me.

1209
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 4: I only remember certain parts of twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen.

1210
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 4: That stuck out like, but it was a blur, Bro,

1211
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 4: like a blur, like I really I it was my

1212
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 4: mom's ashes man, because you know how she got murdered.

1213
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: Bros, It's just it's just graphic, you know.

1214
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 4: And and and and she and she told me months before,

1215
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 4: she said, she said, Anthony, whatever you do, I do

1216
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 4: not want to be cremated.

1217
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1218
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 4: Listen, she got murdered, bro, and the dude burnt the

1219
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 4: house up with her body in it. So I had

1220
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 4: no choice but yeah, to cremate her. So Bro, it

1221
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 4: was just one night. I was just I'm just tired.

1222
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: Bro.

1223
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 4: I went grabbed her ashes man and I was ready

1224
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 4: to go, but I just yeah, it just didn't.

1225
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: My mom.

1226
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 4: Bro, her ashes was Yeah. I was ready to go

1227
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 4: go kick it with my mama.

1228
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: That I was.

1229
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 4: I was ready. I just had a dream. She's in

1230
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 4: my dream and she was just smiling.

1231
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1232
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 4: This is right after the murder, and and I just

1233
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: felt like she was right there, and I just felt

1234
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 4: like I just wanted to go be with her. And man,

1235
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 4: because I felt like I had nobody. I feel like

1236
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 4: I had nobody, and I literally always lived my life

1237
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 4: with nobody. It's always felt like nobody, even when I

1238
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 4: was a kid in school, when my grandma was sickly,

1239
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 4: so she couldn't come to my plays or to whatever

1240
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 4: I had in school or sports events because she was old. Yeah,

1241
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 4: I had nobody in the stands to cheer for me.

1242
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: Nobody would clap to me. Nobody, I had nobody.

1243
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: So I always built in myself a resilience to just

1244
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 4: be the best that I can be in whatever I was.

1245
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 4: And I got used to nobody clapping for me. I

1246
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 4: got used to nobody cheering me, y'all. I got used

1247
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 4: to nobody porn into me.

1248
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: There.

1249
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 4: You know, I always wonder why I never had that,

1250
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: Why I never had that moment, you know, why I

1251
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 4: never had parents that would pour into me, you know

1252
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 4: what I mean. But it made me to who I

1253
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 4: am right now. You know, I'm so appreciative of that.

1254
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 4: But but yeah, man, when fifteen twenty sixteen, which was terrible,

1255
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 4: my cousin Kenetian man, my angel man. She you know,

1256
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 4: I told her, you know, what I was trying to

1257
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 4: do to myself, and and she said, listen, I don't

1258
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 4: care what you're doing right now.

1259
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 3: Come to New York right now.

1260
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: So you had family in New York.

1261
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So how it happened was the people

1262
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,479
Speaker 4: who I first met in New York.

1263
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: I introduced her to them years ago, and they stayed

1264
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: in contact.

1265
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 4: They stayed in contact because my cousin was a model

1266
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 4: for four fashion models. But she ended up coming to

1267
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 4: New York because she needs somebody to you know, to know.

1268
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 4: And so anyway, she ended up staying there, you know.

1269
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 4: And she only she only came because of when I

1270
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 4: first got there. So it all worked out in a

1271
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: sense to where it's like, dang. So anyway, she's in

1272
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 4: New York, she's married now with whatever, and she says,

1273
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 4: come to New York. I'm beat down man mentally physically

1274
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 4: just I'm I don't man, But she's that like what

1275
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 4: her and her husband Anthony Man, I'm I'm I get

1276
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 4: to your house man, and they immediately just start pouring

1277
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 4: into me and just building me back up, just building

1278
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 4: me up with words, just building me up, building me up.

1279
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 4: And like he would call me J tight or just

1280
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 4: J King or just J something just something big.

1281
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 1: He would call me in all the time.

1282
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 4: He was just like mail me. Hear them beats, man,

1283
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 4: come on, let's go play them beats. Man's let's let's go.

1284
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 4: And they just building me up with words. Man, just

1285
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 4: slowly just building me up, building me up, building me up.

1286
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: And I call.

1287
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 4: I called Chef, and I said, hey, man, I'm back

1288
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 4: in New York. He said, what so I'm back in

1289
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 4: New York, man, he said no, I said, I'm back.

1290
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: He said, all right. He said, you got some beats?

1291
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, yeah, I got.

1292
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 4: Some beats man. And he said, well, come come onto

1293
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 4: the crib. I said, the same one, the same place.

1294
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 4: He said, yeah. I go to Queens and I go

1295
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 4: in that basement. Bro my picture that he's had from

1296
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 4: a decade ago, still on the wall. Bro in that basement,

1297
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 4: I said, Chef, my picture still right here. He said, yo,

1298
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 4: you're my little man. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, come on,

1299
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 4: he was like, but where the beats at?

1300
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: Man?

1301
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 4: Like the studio is small as hell, is dusty whatever.

1302
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 4: I plugged my computer up and and I'm playing beats man.

1303
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 4: I'm just looking at Shabby bobbed me and said, you know,

1304
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 4: I'm doing whatever, but I feel like energy behind me.

1305
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: I turned around. That's CARDI.

1306
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: You never met her.

1307
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: I ain't never met her yet. And like he had

1308
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 4: told me about her a little bit like prior to but.

1309
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: On the Internet or anything, a little bit he would

1310
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: show me her Okay, he was sending her little videos

1311
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: over her or whatnot. But I wasn't a headspace of

1312
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: all that. Bro, my mom, you know what I'm saying.

1313
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 4: So anyway, car Arty was there and she she was

1314
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 4: bobbing her head and what not. She was and then

1315
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 4: pretty much, man, he took me to Boston Market, man,

1316
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 4: and he and he gave me a choice, and he said,

1317
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: he said, it's either you can go out there and

1318
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 4: chase these dreams with what you feel like. You got

1319
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 4: lined up now and now you know, I got Valet

1320
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 4: out and stuff like that, you know, because this is

1321
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, so.

1322
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: You had landed a record.

1323
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got little stuff going on with A

1324
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 4: one and whatnot, and from Kansas City as well, and.

1325
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: Trying to spring break himself spring break a one. Floyd.

1326
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: That's how I know him, mister Floyd. You know Floyd.

1327
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 3: Actually Floyd dated my baby Mama Bee before I did.

1328
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: You know what, man, he came. It was in the

1329
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: club in Kan City, man, and he was like, hey, man,

1330
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: I think you cool. His hell, bro, he was like,

1331
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: I just want you know, man, that your your your

1332
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: girl bro? Ye you know that was that was my

1333
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: girl first. Bro, I'm saying, but it's all good though,

1334
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: I said, want to let you know, bro, all right, Okay,

1335
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know you. Okay, it's all good. A one,

1336
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: it's a one, cool bro, that's my guy. Man.

1337
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 4: But but but yeah, man, twenty sixteen. Man, was a

1338
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 4: choice that I had to make, man, because you gotta

1339
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 4: be very selfish about this, and you gotta be okay

1340
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 4: with the outcome of the choice you made.

1341
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: So was the choice he was putting in front of

1342
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: you was to kind of be an in house producer.

1343
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 4: Again, Yeah, with him, with him believe in what I

1344
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 4: believe in. Yeah, but believe in this right here, yeah,

1345
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 4: CARDI b believe in that.

1346
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: So what was it for you that made you make

1347
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: that choice? To say? I get it?

1348
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: Was it that energy, like you said that you felt

1349
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: from just even her being behind you.

1350
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 4: Nah, it hadn't had nothing to do with Carty, had

1351
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 4: everything to do with Chef, But I had nothing else

1352
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 4: to go back to.

1353
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. But you trusted his.

1354
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 4: Vision, man, man, Yeah, I trusted his vision all all

1355
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 4: the way, and also trusted what I could do with

1356
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 4: what I seen, you know. So I said, with that

1357
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 4: vision and with my talents.

1358
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: And y'all just got to work.

1359
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 4: They had been working, you know a little bit before me,

1360
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 4: you know, but I know me, me and the last

1361
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 4: added piece would I feel like would help bring this home?

1362
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: You know?

1363
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 4: But he pretty much said, yeah, you want to go

1364
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 4: out and keep doing what you're doing and figure it

1365
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 4: out by all means, please, But if you want to

1366
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 4: work here and pretty much work for.

1367
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: You know, a hope and a dream.

1368
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 4: Right here and watch you chose the hope of the dream,

1369
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 4: chose to hope and always hoping the dream.

1370
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: And it paid off.

1371
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 4: And it paid off a year and a half later. Man, if,

1372
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 4: what did it feel like as you're making Vodak Yellow

1373
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 4: at the time when I made the beat, Bro, I

1374
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 4: knew it was I knew it was just without a

1375
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 4: song on it. I knew it was special. It felt great,

1376
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 4: it felt good just making it. I said, this is

1377
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 4: it's crazy.

1378
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: So had you been like in a Kodak moment?

1379
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: He said, Kodak Yeah, Bro, you know what, Bro, I

1380
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 4: don't listen to hip hop music like that.

1381
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: Bro. So I had never heard that song before. So

1382
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: you didn't even heard it.

1383
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: I've never like, I only heard that song when the

1384
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 4: song came out when one of my guys back home

1385
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 4: in Texas, DJ A Sap. I was with him when

1386
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,879
Speaker 4: around that week when the song broke he was doing shows.

1387
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 4: He always played that song with it. I didn't know

1388
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 4: that song. Yeah, I didn't know because I don't know

1389
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 4: a lot of songs to hip hop. This, this is

1390
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 4: not my thing. I I don't know, you know what

1391
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 4: I mean?

1392
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: But I do know you didn't know a little Cedri

1393
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: and the Haley singers.

1394
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bro, jojo, Bro, I'm cool. Look here, don't you

1395
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 4: live in your world? A nineties rap?

1396
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: Please don't ask me, Bro, I don't know. I don't know.

1397
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: Josy is not nineties rapp, but up It's okay.

1398
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 4: But I know about Joy because it Josy. But they're

1399
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 4: legends though, But nineties rapped though, Bro, nothing. You gotta

1400
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 4: be like the biggest of the biggest for me to know, you.

1401
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: Know, Tupac. Yeah, That's what I'm saying, Like, it's got

1402
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 1: to be that it got it gotta be Will.

1403
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 3: Smith mc hammer.

1404
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: Oh you okay?

1405
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 4: You know the things that were like hues on the radio,

1406
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 4: and the MTV. M TV I was allowed to watch that, gotcha?

1407
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: Or that's why when you heard Chef saying by the

1408
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: MTV Awards, you're like, oh, he must be that's MTV.

1409
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 4: MTV pop makes you know, big makes sense, makes sense.

1410
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 4: You know, I can listen to the big stuff.

1411
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: So when Carti lace her vocals, doing her doing her part,

1412
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: you don't even.

1413
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 4: Know that that's bro. I thought it was a good song.

1414
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 4: Like I thought it was a good It was a

1415
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 4: it was a great song. It is a great song. Yeah,

1416
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 4: that's what I thought, you know what I mean? And

1417
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 4: so how does it go?

1418
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: Then? Now when it's time to do the business.

1419
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 4: Bro, that's what it gets tricky. It gets very very tricky.

1420
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 4: It gets tricky tricky.

1421
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: Because the funny part is I had heard of you

1422
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: really through b K, through KC Cats that I already knew.

1423
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: It was like, nah, it's times of cat Man, like

1424
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: you know whatever, you know, just like you understand, my

1425
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: whole adult life has been connected to Kansas City and

1426
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: the homies from Kansas City, you know what I mean,

1427
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: Like me coming to LA. First producer I work with

1428
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: when I'm here at eighteen is David Thomas I'm connected

1429
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: into Olivio Harrison, you know what I mean, I'm already

1430
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 2: locked in with KC. So everything that's that's brewing out there,

1431
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm pretty much known about.

1432
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: And you know this the Bay and Kansas City, we

1433
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: are related. Like, I didn't even.

1434
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: Really understand how big the MESSI Marv record I have

1435
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: that Say Love was until I was in Kansas City

1436
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, y'all really know this shit, Like

1437
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's a local record back home.

1438
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: Go play it right now, tear club up. It's cracking

1439
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 3: right now.

1440
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 2: Right So for me, I, like I said, I had

1441
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: known so many guys in Kansas City that your name

1442
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: had come up. So funny thing is when Bodak Yellow cracks,

1443
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 2: you know, the homies from KC is like, nah, that's

1444
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: that's Jay White. He can't city. That's the one we

1445
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: telling you about, you know what I mean. But throughout

1446
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: the industry, the industry was saying that your beat came

1447
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:39,919
Speaker 2: from the internet.

1448
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: What yes, that's at least that's what I was getting back.

1449
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy that it was like some random kid that

1450
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 2: did a beat on the internet that they bought what.

1451
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: Not, that you were in the house producer. This is

1452
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: new story.

1453
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 2: This is the story that I was getting wow on

1454
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: this side of the country, damn.

1455
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, they said we bought the beat.

1456
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's a new one. Okay, so tell more.

1457
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: But I'm like it's a good one. I'm like, nah,

1458
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: that's the young kid I've been hearing about, Like nah, nah, nah,

1459
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: that's one in beats. And you know when the rental beats, Damn, bro,

1460
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: So this kid hit a lick. It's a good story

1461
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 2: with a rental beat. It's a good lick.

1462
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: And then a nigga tell me he owned the publisher

1463
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: from it. But yeah, yeah yeah. I was like, okay,

1464
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: all right, so the business, so the business of this record. Now,

1465
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: I tell you that yellow, that yellow killed the streets.

1466
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 4: Let's just no established naming that one of y'all has fed.

1467
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 4: What's what's that commercial back then day where they had

1468
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 4: like to feed the children and.

1469
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: Something like thought, yes, I know what you're talking about, bro.

1470
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 4: We would do the awards like save Africa. That's about

1471
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 4: that Yellow being my awards.

1472
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 1: I was there.

1473
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 4: When I seen every publisher get up for Vodak Yellow.

1474
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 4: That song had everybody's hands, and that when I say

1475
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 4: that we experienced so many different lawsuits, so many different

1476
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 4: people coming in the business was already just business y,

1477
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 4: you know, and uh, that song fail a lot of people.

1478
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: I'll say that, so was Cardi already on Atlantic.

1479
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they really haven't.

1480
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 4: They didn't really make the BIGG announcement like that though,

1481
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because God, we did the

1482
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 4: mixtape Gangs by Them two, which I produced most of that.

1483
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 4: They put that out, but they wanted to make it

1484
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 4: still seem like she was independent.

1485
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: And Vodak was on Gangs the Business part two. No, No,

1486
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: Bodak was by itself. It was. It was a single.

1487
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 3: It was a single, but nobody believe in it though.

1488
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 4: I think you got a history of that too, every song,

1489
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 4: almost every song.

1490
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: Next thing you play, I don't believe in it, bro,

1491
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm like number one, number one one. Don't believe my

1492
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: ay now, don't believe it.

1493
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 4: Not believe it ever, because as soon as you believe

1494
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 4: it's over, it's clipped.

1495
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to touch some bread

1496
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: after after that? Yellow? It ain't hell?

1497
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 4: Soon as I soon as I signed a freaking admin deal.

1498
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 4: At first, I was gonna do a pub deal man,

1499
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 4: but the dream shout out to him. Man, I talked

1500
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 4: to her dream bro. The dreams say, you better not

1501
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 4: do no publishing deal. You do an admin deal. I

1502
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 4: got a great ad and deal Sam at the time

1503
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 4: Cobalt at the time.

1504
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: It's my dum Yes, Sam, I caught the floor. See Sam,

1505
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: because Sea Sam. It used to be a yeah do

1506
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 1: you know Sam? Huh? Do you know Sam went to

1507
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: school in Kansas for for a year or two? You

1508
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: didn't know that he went to school and levet Worth, Kansas. Wow? Yeah?

1509
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: Oh Sam? So Sam, does your deal at Cobalt? Yeah?

1510
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: And you touched some paper. He gave me a great

1511
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: deal for the first time in your life at this

1512
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: point in real paper? What Yeah? Would you buy nothing?

1513
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: You buy nothing? Bro.

1514
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 4: I told God this, I said, I said, if I

1515
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: remake it, I just want to just be a giver

1516
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 4: because I've always want to give her.

1517
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: I just want to help people.

1518
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 4: The first I got my check, I had ten dollars

1519
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 4: on my account while he was number one and claims

1520
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 4: on my DAI one zero yeah, one zero yeah, when

1521
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 4: we was number one, number one on a high one

1522
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 4: hundred for Shure ten dollars.

1523
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was doing I was waiting. I was waiting.

1524
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 4: You know, each time that that that number it you

1525
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 4: know it's staying long that that number get higher. It's

1526
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 4: a chance you're gonna take. If it's on dip, you

1527
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 4: might have to lose some money, but hey, yeah whatever,

1528
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So that third week, that

1529
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 4: third week, I signed my deal, but I knew my

1530
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 4: life had changed. When we hit top eight, I said,

1531
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 4: I saw shaking. I was like, Okay, I'm not broke.

1532
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: No more. I'm not broke.

1533
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have some money at some at some point.

1534
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 4: It's no I was crying, Bro, I was shaking, Bro.

1535
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 4: I couldn't move, bro like I was. I was like,

1536
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 4: all these years to get a moment like this, you

1537
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It was a moment that you know,

1538
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 4: I'll never forget, man.

1539
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: I was.

1540
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 4: I was in that same place where I want to

1541
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 4: in my life at that That's where I celebrated, you know,

1542
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 4: me going you know, I was like, yo, I'm not broke, bro,

1543
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 4: I'm really not broke. So we did all the deal,

1544
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 4: you know, all the meetings for everybody, and Sam said

1545
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 4: he's gonna sign me. But that money hit my account. Bro,

1546
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 4: I woke up and I had all them zeros plus

1547
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 4: ten dollars.

1548
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had all that, bro.

1549
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 4: The first thing I did was I hit both my

1550
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 4: baby mamas up man, uh you know, and my account

1551
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 4: at the time.

1552
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: I've been broke a long time. It's careers, I know,

1553
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: niggas whos been on child's before the day. Yeah, career.

1554
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: It wasn't even that right there.

1555
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 4: I ain't thinking about that, bro, because it's cool, you know.

1556
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about just hitting them off as fast as

1557
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 4: I can, just because thank.

1558
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: You, thank you, you know what I mean.

1559
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 4: And my count wasn't set up to send a lot

1560
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 4: of money right now, because it wasn't a lot of

1561
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 4: money ever coming in and out.

1562
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: Of that thing. So held it, no no read and

1563
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: I kept looking a little counsel. I remember my first

1564
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: piece of body. They held week for a week. Oh man.

1565
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: They gave me what.

1566
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 4: They gave me a little bit, a little bit, they

1567
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 4: gave me a little bit, fan me a little bit.

1568
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, take this player, take this damn always straight to

1569
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: the mall, the mall.

1570
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I spent I spent like forty five hours you know,

1571
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: on the buy.

1572
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 4: We got all this shit I wanted. Wasn't there no

1573
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 4: more brother. But when you got the money, you don't

1574
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 4: got none to buy. Yeah, you really don't got nothing

1575
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 4: to buy? Bro, Yes, yes, yes you do. But but

1576
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 4: when you first get money, I.

1577
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: Don't know what. You don't know what to buy by man,

1578
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: I called took care of him.

1579
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 4: I gave him a thousand dollars a piece, so that's

1580
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 4: all at the time that would come out for the account.

1581
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1582
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 3: I was like, that's like, I got y'all a minute, though.

1583
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: I got you a minute. I got y'all let me

1584
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: figure this out. Wow.

1585
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 4: I called my boy veil Man. At the time, I

1586
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 4: was working with a lot back in Dallas. Man, I was,

1587
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 4: I was working. I think you met him, Yeah, I

1588
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 4: called him, iself at, go get to guitar Center, bro,

1589
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 4: and just get like some equipment that you need so

1590
01:21:58,760 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 4: you canna work at your crib.

1591
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're gonna come to my house.

1592
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 4: So just whatever you need, bro, just get it and

1593
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take care of it, he said.

1594
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: For really. I was like, yeah, Bro, it's up.

1595
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 4: I said, hey, So that's the first thing I did,

1596
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 4: was I hit to care of your people. That my peoples.

1597
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 4: I went to the mall to get a new phone

1598
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 4: and literally that day. That's all I bought was a

1599
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 4: brand new phone because I needed one. And from there.

1600
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 2: Do you know what you what you made as a

1601
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 2: producer in antony? Like, what was it like when y'all

1602
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 2: was working on her album?

1603
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: Now? Yeah, did you get a producer's feet started? I

1604
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: got five K, five thousand, five thou by the time, yeah,

1605
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: well five thousand.

1606
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 4: Felt like five meal. Yeah at the time, I got

1607
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 4: paid five K. And it it hit.

1608
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: We needs to hit. I'll say that. It always it hit,

1609
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: was done it all And.

1610
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 4: I was weeding on this listen. I was man, listen,

1611
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 4: I was on this cruise ship, bro, but.

1612
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: You was taking cruises. It was just you should have

1613
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: been taking cruises, bro. Broke niggas can't cruise facts, bro.

1614
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 4: And I don't know why he was on that cruise

1615
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 4: because I was a broke nigg on the cruise. I

1616
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 4: don't know a lot.

1617
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: But it wasn't friends then I would have told you

1618
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: not to go, bro. It was.

1619
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 4: I was in a situation with my son's mother and

1620
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 4: we were trying to figure it out at the time

1621
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 4: on the cruise and she was like, let's go on

1622
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 4: this cruise. I said, why a cruise for all right, man,

1623
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 4: So we're going that cruise. She going at me too,

1624
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 4: boy like on that cruise, like on the last day,

1625
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 4: I had like forty three dollars.

1626
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: You keep man, you was staying under one hundred this

1627
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: nigga ship. I ain't gonna lie. Segue, not segue, but

1628
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: hold on co commercial from that, just boom, fourtree dollars.

1629
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 3: Look, I've been that way, bro.

1630
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: Listen.

1631
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:09,480
Speaker 4: When I worked at ups Man, I did doubles, triples,

1632
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 4: doing Christmas break man, child support came and got me.

1633
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:21,919
Speaker 4: Man right, look my check that whole week. I'm busting

1634
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 4: my ass, bro, thirty four dollars before Christmas. They call

1635
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 4: that garnishing. Definitely show I know about garnishing. Garnish, king,

1636
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 4: I don't, hey, hey, but but anyway back to that

1637
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 4: so and so, look, I look at my account of

1638
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 4: my phone. I've seen that five thousand dollars and about

1639
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 4: forty three dollars with it.

1640
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, so good, so good. If you don't

1641
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: have it, it's all good. Button in this business. It's

1642
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: not for you, it's all good.

1643
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: At some point, I call it a fucking switch, big

1644
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: fuck it, nigga. I'm quick to be like, fuck it

1645
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: fuck it. Oh, I'm on that right now. I'm right now.

1646
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 4: It because it can translate into different things.

1647
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: Something I can't. I can't control it. I can't. It's

1648
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: nothing I can do.

1649
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 4: Fuck it, bro, it's chop. That's why I say, Man,

1650
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 4: it's drive me crazy, it's chop.

1651
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: I'm good, all right.

1652
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: So we're cracking out though now we were number one.

1653
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: We got the big bag, not the little one. I

1654
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: got money in my pocket though, you know what I mean.

1655
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1656
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1657
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 4: Hey, my phone is staying on consistently. Yeah, yay, Yeah.

1658
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: Now are you going fully along the ride with Cardi? Like?

1659
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: Are you outside with her? Are you? Are you just standing?

1660
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 3: At the time, it was, it was it was a

1661
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 3: family thing. It was a team thing.

1662
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 1: So we all moving together.

1663
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 4: Together, and sometimes when one move together, I'm forcing myself

1664
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:10,879
Speaker 4: in the equation.

1665
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm j whit.

1666
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 4: You know I'm with y'all. Right, you know I did it.

1667
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 4: You know I did that. Like I'm actually with y'all.

1668
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 4: You know I made the beat, right, y'all know.

1669
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm here too. Right.

1670
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 4: Listen, when when I first when that song first debuted

1671
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 4: on BT of the Awards, Bro, they was there in

1672
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 4: l A.

1673
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: Well in l A.

1674
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 4: I was in Dallas. I said, hold on, now, why

1675
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 4: am I not there? And y'all there in the song

1676
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 4: out I made the beat. I sold some bees real

1677
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 4: quick and flew. I didn't care what I sold them for.

1678
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 4: I need to mount for a ticket and I can't

1679
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 4: And I blew my ass on there. I said, Chef,

1680
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 4: where y'all staying at wow J?

1681
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 3: I said, I'm here, I'm in LA.

1682
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 4: I stepped on the floor that day, I said, on

1683
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 4: the floor, Bro, But I put myself in that mixed though. Yeah,

1684
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 4: I ain't care, but yeah, we moved around for that time. Yeah,

1685
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 4: whatever concert she was doing, whatever show she was doing, like.

1686
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: I was, it did just the follow ups of it, bro,

1687
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 2: Like y'all was in a pocket.

1688
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 1: I like it. When I like it hit, I was like,

1689
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: oh my, because you have to share.

1690
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 2: This is how our paths are crossing too, okay, right,

1691
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 2: because I already talked about obviously the Kansas City connection,

1692
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 2: and you know, pretty much being family with y'all. You

1693
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I'm from the Bay, but

1694
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: I got family. I consider the guys I know from

1695
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: KC family. You know what I mean, and even our

1696
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 2: relationship that we built together, Like my god, bro, man,

1697
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 2: we also had our label at Atlantic at the time,

1698
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:50,799
Speaker 2: R and B R and B Money.

1699
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: It was at Atlantic. It was Atlantic, you know what

1700
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's where we really, that's where we started.

1701
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: R and B Money. Shout out to Atlantic. Shout out

1702
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: team man.

1703
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 2: Listen, Julie Craig, Kaiser, Marcia, you know what I mean,

1704
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 2: Like was there, Lonrey, Juliet cav Crespo, Man, come on, bro, yeah,

1705
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: the whole all the Artigianos, you like, man cracking like,

1706
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 2: shout out to them people.

1707
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: Met Larcia, yeah, man, all of them. If I'm forgetting you,

1708
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: it's because you know what I mean, all y'all fire.

1709
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: I super super super super appreciate Atlantic, Atlantic Records, in

1710
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: that team there, man, and for what they helped us

1711
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: build and.

1712
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: Create with all the money there. Amazing. It was an

1713
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: amazing time. Man. Mike Hamilton, like Mike Hamilton, people broke, Yeah, Man,

1714
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: I love Mike. Oh yeah, I love Mike Laron like Nigga.

1715
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm remember every.

1716
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 2: Will like Nigga. We was really on the road, man.

1717
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 2: This is this is when I.

1718
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: Am fully in management mode. You know, when I'm that's what.

1719
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: That's what.

1720
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 2: I'm not singing no more. I ain't writing for nobody

1721
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: else but Tank Manager. So we're on the road, written

1722
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 2: the vehicle, driving, see the city, dealing with everybody in

1723
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: every in all these departments. I remember going to an

1724
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 2: Atlantic event in New York.

1725
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: Oh are you saying?

1726
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: And Carti B performing and I may still have a

1727
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 2: clip of it on my computer song because I because

1728
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh yeah, because.

1729
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: I had seen her on the internet original Cardi where

1730
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 1: she was just funny, cracking jokes, no songs, she was

1731
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: just Cardi B funny, like Nigga Icebreak. She's hilarious. I

1732
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 1: love this girl. She's special, Nigga.

1733
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: She got up there and she was like, I'm about

1734
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 2: to perform for all you rich motherfuckers.

1735
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: I need y'all to make some noise. And I was like,

1736
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:00,839
Speaker 1: she's the greatest.

1737
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1738
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: I was like, she's the fucking greatest. She's amazing. She

1739
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: got up there and killed, yeah, man and killed. And

1740
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 1: this was this was.

1741
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 2: Early, early, and I was like, Nigga, she special, she

1742
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 2: gets it. This is a real thing. And then just

1743
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 2: over time and then running to her at Julie Green

1744
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:20,440
Speaker 2: Wall's fiftieth birthday.

1745
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: She walked in. Bro. She she had a little tank

1746
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:31,759
Speaker 1: top on, some stretch pants and like some furry Gucci

1747
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: or Chaneo sandals. This was like pretty much damn near

1748
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: a black type bit and she knew it.

1749
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 2: And she was like, I know, I know, I know

1750
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 2: the fun I got on. I know that right, But

1751
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,759
Speaker 2: I wasn't missing this ship. I was coming from somewhere

1752
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 2: and I had to stop by.

1753
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, real one she is though. She is.

1754
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 2: Though I don't know Cardi well, Like I said, I

1755
01:30:55,360 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 2: met her in passing. I'm a fan. Carty Cardi b

1756
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: is a fucking superstar. She's one of one. Yes, for

1757
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:07,839
Speaker 2: who she is, She's super.

1758
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 4: Nobody's like her star, superstar, special, generational, generational.

1759
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 2: I mean, bro, she's going down in history for sure.

1760
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 2: She's down in the historycause y'all end up in the Grammy

1761
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 2: for that project and everything, right.

1762
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the project. We ain't win a boat act though.

1763
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: Man about all right?

1764
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: You know he still listen, we can't. We can't get

1765
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: them all, Bro, why not that two things can be true?

1766
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 2: Because you still want to?

1767
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: Why not? Like because I wanted all here we go,

1768
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't like nothing. Way they leave the food out

1769
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 1: damn yeh point.

1770
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,719
Speaker 2: See it's tricky, bro, niggas be some point you don't

1771
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 2: know what then people do when they standing over that food,

1772
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 2: calling and doing whatever they do, you know whatever. Now

1773
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 2: y'all cracking the show. Jay White's name is out there.

1774
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 2: You're not just a nigga that sold a beat on

1775
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 2: the internet. A damn and you got and you got

1776
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 2: a bag of money. Man, I did what's next after that?

1777
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 2: In your mind of like, okay, what do I gotta

1778
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 2: get on? I have no clue, no clue at all,

1779
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 2: no plan, no plan. I said, I wanted to make it.

1780
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: I did. Now I'm here, I'm here, what I do

1781
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: what I do?

1782
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 2: Now you start looking around, But are you getting Are

1783
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 2: you getting all the phone calls from the industry now

1784
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 2: or no?

1785
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 1: No, so you're not even getting not really? No. Why

1786
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 1: do you think that is? Because that's not normal? You know,

1787
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: you do know that that's not normal? Now, you do

1788
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 1: know that, right? I didn't know.

1789
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 4: Craig didn't meet me, And I agree with you. Craig

1790
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 4: didn't meet me till you we went number one at

1791
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 4: the party. At the number one party, when when they's

1792
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 4: present the plat Hey, Craig, no they did it?

1793
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: Is that why you called yourself? J White? Did it? No?

1794
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 4: Been that I already been there. But but listen, I

1795
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 4: literally I was, man, who Ron Stu?

1796
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: Who?

1797
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 4: Also, that's my dog? Come on, come on now you're

1798
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 4: helping me. Come on, come on, man, I can't forget Rod.

1799
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 2: Stu also calls me after damn near every podcast that drops,

1800
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 2: O watch every week.

1801
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: It's my brother. That's my brother.

1802
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 3: Ron has been listening. Ry has been nothing but a valid.

1803
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, I pull up on you. We were

1804
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: were there and Ron, he said, Yo, have you met

1805
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: Craig yet? That sounds like that, he said. He said,

1806
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: come on, let's go. Craig.

1807
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 3: You're right there. He said, Craig, do you know what

1808
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 3: J White is?

1809
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1810
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 3: He's a guy who made but that yellow. Oh really.

1811
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you? Well blah, I said, yeah, nice

1812
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: to meet you. Did you know who Craig was? Not really?

1813
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: But I know he's a boss. Okay, you know what

1814
01:33:59,200 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: I mean?

1815
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 4: But I didn't know Craig and so until he Craig

1816
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 4: like that's my guy, now, like that's that's the music guy.

1817
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 4: It's a music guy. Man, that's my that's my guy.

1818
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 4: After that, Craig, he said, hey, meet me in my office.

1819
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1820
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 4: And after that it was just it was up from there.

1821
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,719
Speaker 4: And then he said, man, I got these Latin records. Man,

1822
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 4: I got these Latin records. I think it should flip

1823
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,759
Speaker 4: for CARDI come to my house. Well, so I always

1824
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 4: got some. You know, he got a billion records. Bro,

1825
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 4: Bro he got to so I go to his crib.

1826
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 1: Bro.

1827
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 4: It's late, man, I'm dozen. He's going through tracks, going

1828
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 4: through songs of simple. He said, which one? I said,

1829
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:51,839
Speaker 4: maybe track eleven. When he get to it, I hear that.

1830
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like you, I like you like that.

1831
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 4: I said, that's the one, I said. He said, yeah,

1832
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, that's the one. From there, it was

1833
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 4: a long journey to get to it. Like we started

1834
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 4: working on it. It took a long time to you know.

1835
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 1: To get it right. Yeah, for sure. But that came

1836
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: from Craig.

1837
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 2: Craig, but show he told Tank to uh to record.

1838
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 1: Bonnie Raid, I Can't make you Love Me?

1839
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 2: What which Now, in the black community, most black people

1840
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 2: think I can't make you love me Tank song, It's

1841
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 2: not it was right, it's Bonnie Ray's record and it's

1842
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 2: been covered probably about fifteen twenty times, but his version just.

1843
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 4: It just damn, that's not thank song. No, oh, you're hilarious.

1844
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 4: I'm mad you told me that it's a lot of versions.

1845
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 4: Prince actually has a version.

1846
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:52,440
Speaker 1: Yes. Craig common though, is like, you should record this.

1847
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 4: He's a now you got a ear. He's so important

1848
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 4: for music. Yeah, he is and and very important. I

1849
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 4: love Craig and Craig needs to always be in music, Yes,

1850
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 4: he always needs to be here. And Julie, yeah, and

1851
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 4: Kiz and Cas.

1852
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: I just talked to ky the other day. How's he doing.

1853
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: He's good. Kais is a movie you though.

1854
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 2: I had to call him and congratulate him because the

1855
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 2: Nicks won, and you know, because he's been fighting through it.

1856
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: He even fighting through it. He be you know.

1857
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he spent a lot of money on tickets

1858
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 2: all the views, and that's turned me up. Man, Kyles

1859
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 2: turns everyone up. I was in his office one time.

1860
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,719
Speaker 2: He said, hey, man, you want a haircut?

1861
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 4: I said yeah, he called us Barbara. I got my

1862
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 4: haircut in his office. I said, oh I didn't made it, okay, cause.

1863
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 2: My boy and I got a shout at Manuel and

1864
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 2: Manuel the greatest video commissioner of all time. Mom, I'm

1865
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,719
Speaker 2: still I'm still going, Grace James Marketing.

1866
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 3: See now you now you're gonna bum my head?

1867
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you know it's that was That's family, bro,

1868
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 2: I really did Atlantic is family if they are, bro.

1869
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 4: I really bro. When we when she got signed there,

1870
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 4: I say we if I feel like we all got

1871
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 4: sign which got signed, but we would go up there,

1872
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 4: Jerry Bryant, Now who still going?

1873
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 3: Damn?

1874
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm still going. Juliett, I said, Juliette, you did yes.

1875
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 4: Okay, we loved you yet. By the way, I would

1876
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 4: buy donuts from across the street.

1877
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,520
Speaker 2: Speaking of you before we even go further. So Juliette

1878
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: is the reason for R and B Money podcasts really

1879
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 2: being where it is.

1880
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: Juliette.

1881
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 2: Juliet told them people, Yeah, I better do a deal

1882
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: with Jay in tank.

1883
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: She you out your damn mind. You don't real. Shout

1884
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: out to my dogar.

1885
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 4: Shout out to Juliet She's real too. Juliette. She she

1886
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 4: gonna always wherever she at, look out for people for sure.

1887
01:37:53,200 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 1: For sure, I loved you yet you finally met Craig yeah.

1888
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 2: But so, but as this is all happening, you're saying

1889
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,759
Speaker 2: that nobody's beating your door down.

1890
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody know me.

1891
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 2: See I told you, nigga, I'm like, know me. I

1892
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: told you what they was saying you was. So you're

1893
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 2: not even getting no new placements.

1894
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 1: Nobody's Like.

1895
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 4: At the time before I got before I signed with Sam,

1896
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 4: you know Ryan pressure, you know Ryan of course, cool smooth,

1897
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 4: you know man, Ryan, he was taking me around and

1898
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 4: getting me like sessions and whatnot. So I did have

1899
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 4: a song with Tnache at the time coming, but it

1900
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:55,839
Speaker 4: was on an album and you know, but other than that, nothing, man.

1901
01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:02,520
Speaker 2: So what comes after after what after invasion? A privacy album?

1902
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 4: After that album is going for you? Well, are you

1903
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 4: just waiting to go to the next car.

1904
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure it out.

1905
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure it out, bro, because they don't

1906
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 4: tell you, bro when you make it, bro, unless you

1907
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 4: got a team. Because I had part of ways with Chef,

1908
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 4: you know, and it wasn't nothing personal. It's just strictly business,

1909
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 4: you know, And we couldn't agree on what it was.

1910
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 4: And Chef he's always known me, he always knew what

1911
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 4: I was gonna do anyway. You know, I'm here. I'm

1912
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 4: here for the life, change the moment. I'm here to

1913
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 4: go up and I love you, bro, you know what

1914
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 4: I mean. Like, but he always knew that everybody got

1915
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 4: what they had to get out of that situation.

1916
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1917
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 4: But I'm just trying to figure it out, bro. Like

1918
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 4: at the time, no management, I'm trying to figure out

1919
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:53,719
Speaker 4: a lawyer.

1920
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 1: You have none of that stuff in place. You know

1921
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: what was with the biggest records in the world.

1922
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 4: Didn't know what was going on. Ship, I didn't know

1923
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 4: what was going on. So I was running through just

1924
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 4: different people, you know what I mean, just trying to

1925
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 4: find the right person. And then the here coms just

1926
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 4: you know, this lady by the name of Sharene. She

1927
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 4: was an assistant to uh, who's the CEO R R

1928
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 4: C A, to Peter, to Peter Edge Peter.

1929
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1930
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 4: She she had got me my blue check back in

1931
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 4: the day on uh on Instagram.

1932
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1933
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 4: But she was always just like helping me. I said, Yo,

1934
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 4: why don't you be my manager? She said, huh. I

1935
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 4: said you should manage me.

1936
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 1: Huh. She said, okay, it was up. She she smart.

1937
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 1: She started figuring stuff out, huh. And we were just

1938
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: winging it like we Yeah, we winged it all the

1939
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,600
Speaker 1: way up. What's the next big record.

1940
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 3: Big record? Well, you know, I did Money as well.

1941
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 2: But that was just a single in between single and

1942
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:03,719
Speaker 2: Cardiy was dropping singles.

1943
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the same time, me and d he did.

1944
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 4: A lot at the same time as Money is all

1945
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 4: around the same time.

1946
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. You just can't just say a lot lot twenty

1947
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 1: J cole war winning.

1948
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to say. Is that Jacob's only Grammy?

1949
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 4: Which is might be? Which is why it might it

1950
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 4: might be? I think that was tween one first Grammy too,

1951
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 4: I believe Yeah, J White, DJ Ding, Yeah, show for

1952
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 4: show and.

1953
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was.

1954
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 4: It was up though by that time, though I haven't

1955
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 4: figured it out a little bit. Okay, I have figured out,

1956
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 4: but for a while I didn't know what was up

1957
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 4: or down.

1958
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 3: I ain't know. I was going crazy, like, I didn't

1959
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 3: know what to do.

1960
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: You had to really go and put the team together.

1961
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 3: Man, I was I ain't know what to do.

1962
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 4: Bro, I'm I'm being the money left and right trying

1963
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 4: to figure it out. I had people, I had people

1964
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 4: on my team consulting on.

1965
01:41:58,720 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 1: My team.

1966
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 4: For what you were having consulting? Yeah, tell me nothing.

1967
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 4: I'm paying them per month. Tell me nothing. I got

1968
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 4: a PR person, I'm paying them, Yeah, PR two K

1969
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 4: per month.

1970
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 1: Let's do the matter. So that's forty five a month, right,

1971
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 1: I hate there. Please swing your consultant in your PR.

1972
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,679
Speaker 1: That's yeah. And don't forget everything. Yeah, and that's before

1973
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 1: you can get to your life.

1974
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm burning Oh yeah, yeah, burning.

1975
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: Money being met himself, lowing money, fast.

1976
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 4: Owing money, fast my boy here, bro, no lie twenty eighteen, Bro,

1977
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 4: I got paid.

1978
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 3: I had my advanced check for show.

1979
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 4: But money I made up front twenty eighteen at the

1980
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 4: boy that yellow fifteen k, fifteen K, my boy, and

1981
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 4: that that was a tonight day five three zeros. Yeah, man,

1982
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 4: fifteen thousand that whole year. Oh yeah, that's what I made.

1983
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 4: So I made, Bro, That's what I made. And so

1984
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 4: do you do you?

1985
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:12,680
Speaker 1: Hmmm? Give me one second, man, please man, give why

1986
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: you do that?

1987
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm giving me a drinking at Why.

1988
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 2: Do you attribute that to you just not paying attention

1989
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 2: to the business early on?

1990
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought I knew what I didn't know. I

1991
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 4: didn't know nothing in the real world of this.

1992
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's to tear you up, and you were just

1993
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 1: signing bad deals. What's it a bad deal? I'm asking you. No, No,

1994
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: I ain't signed a bad deal, noning like that. I'm

1995
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: just out here just trying to figure it out. If

1996
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 1: the money wasn't coming to you though the money was

1997
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 1: going to somebody.

1998
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 4: I had, No, it wasn't collected yet. Okay, so you

1999
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 4: know how you know? That's why that's why I asked

2000
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 4: yet it wasn't collected yet.

2001
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, I'm thinking you're saying no, okay, no nobody.

2002
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why I lost my mind. That's why pause, brother,

2003
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:06,599
Speaker 1: But still not even about hell no, right because sometime,

2004
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 1: like you said, not knowing what you don't know? Yeah, bro, And.

2005
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 2: We're after success, we're after opportunity, and sometimes we're making

2006
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 2: bad choices a lot, and when that success does come,

2007
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 2: we're not prepared for it. Are It's our success is

2008
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 2: tied up in the opportunity that we were given and

2009
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 2: now the finances don't match. So that's what I'm saying

2010
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 2: at all, that can very much so happen, you know.

2011
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 2: So that's why when you said that number to me,

2012
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, was somebody else getting bro the bread.

2013
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 4: Bro, listen I had. I was trying to figure it out. Look,

2014
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 4: my my first accountant was my daughter's mother's cousin. That's

2015
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 4: my friend accounting right right there. And I was just

2016
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 4: trying to I ain't know what's going on. You like,

2017
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 4: hey man, you burning your bread bro. And everybody said

2018
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 4: when you put your first check, you're gonna burn through

2019
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 4: the I'm like, it's in the wind. Yeah, burned, it's

2020
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 4: in the wind.

2021
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 1: Burns, I'm burned through. You don't eat the same no more? Yeah,

2022
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 1: and Bill, you don't like that steak?

2023
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 2: Fuck the bills were gonna get to the bills, because

2024
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 2: the bills is just part of it. But here goes

2025
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,799
Speaker 2: the theories is the part that niggas don't talk about

2026
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,560
Speaker 2: real shit. You started asking are things marblized? Can you

2027
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 2: be like nigg I didn't realize. I don't even know

2028
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,719
Speaker 2: what that was. Wait, so Oscar style Nazi.

2029
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't need that. I don't do that. I don't

2030
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 1: do that.

2031
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 4: That happens though, that does happen to a lot of people,

2032
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 4: But that wasn't me, you know me.

2033
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 2: You know each one, one chicken side is like twenty

2034
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 2: dollars that just.

2035
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: One of them. This is wild works. See, I don't

2036
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: eat no places brow Hey, this small a chicken.

2037
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,839
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, and sometimes this happens too, because

2038
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 2: as you're getting notoriety, people want to take you to

2039
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 2: dinners and now your taste buzz get used to that.

2040
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: For when you make your own money. Is that being

2041
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 1: a lifestyle. It's a life. I had never eaten calamari,

2042
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 1: for real in the bay. You know what. I had

2043
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 1: never eaten calamari or sushi delicious, delicious. I didn't eat

2044
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 1: I didn't eat sushi until Harvey Mason Junior as we're

2045
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 1: doing the mix for I like them girls. I love

2046
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 1: that song.

2047
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 2: By the way, thank you sir, and he orders a

2048
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 2: sushi platter for the studio because we're gonna be there,

2049
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 2: yeah man, And I'm like, I ain't eating that, and

2050
01:46:55,120 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 2: Harvey's like, hey, bro, hey buddy, and Harvey got it,

2051
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 2: tried his buddy. No, none of us had it then,

2052
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 2: No nigga, it was she was tricky. I liked him, girls.

2053
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 2: That's the first Underdog record ever. No nobody had no bread.

2054
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:11,680
Speaker 2: They had a little bit of bread, but nobody had

2055
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:12,080
Speaker 2: no bread.

2056
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Bread right.

2057
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 2: But he was also you know, yeah he was. He

2058
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 2: was more cultured, Yeah for sure. And he ordered a

2059
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: sushi platter and I'm like, hell no.

2060
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, this a little California old. What's

2061
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: in that? I already like to say, okay, but try that.

2062
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 1: But between that and then going to I remember.

2063
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 2: My first record deal, the VP takes me to eat

2064
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 2: at La Petite four on Sunset and Sunset Plaza. Oh

2065
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 2: that is okay, you can probably go there now. And

2066
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 2: I've said it, and he ordered as an appetizer calamari.

2067
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what klamari is. I'm eighteen at the time,

2068
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 2: or nineteen eighteen or nineteen. He orders it and I'm like,

2069
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 2: what's that and he's like, and this is no. Actually,

2070
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I eat a piece first he said, what

2071
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 2: is this chicken?

2072
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 1: What is this?

2073
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 2: Showye like it's octa for somebody like Nigga. I didn't

2074
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 2: like it because I didn't know, you didn't know what

2075
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 2: it was. I ordered calimbar every time I go somewhere delicious.

2076
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 2: But these are the things that are being set in

2077
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 2: front of us when we're eating on the corporate car

2078
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 2: because he's trying to sign me to a record deal.

2079
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 1: At the time.

2080
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 2: So when I get my deal or when I do

2081
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 2: this next deal, I ordered Calimbar for me and my friends.

2082
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 1: Wow, and that is how we go.

2083
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,600
Speaker 4: Well, I'm with you on Thatt, that's part of it.

2084
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 4: That's how I spent a lot of money. Was I

2085
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 4: gave it away? Yeah, gave it away much as I could.

2086
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 2: I remember, I couldn't wait to go back to San

2087
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 2: Francisco and take all the homies just just to go eat.

2088
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 3: And you take the pizzas takes tab Yep.

2089
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: I'd have spent three hundred dollars on pizza. Yep. I

2090
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: couldn't because you got it. I thought I had it.

2091
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 1: I thought you had it. You know what I mean?

2092
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 1: You had been I had I had I had on me,

2093
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 1: I had on me, you had on you. I had it.

2094
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it because it felt good. Yeah, yeah,

2095
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 4: all right. So now, but you're rolling, So let's get

2096
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 4: back to you.

2097
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I like it. You rolling, You're getting You're getting big,

2098
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 1: You're getting big money. Fifteen thousand.

2099
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 2: Now we passed that, we passed fifty that I heard

2100
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 2: about fifties. But now you didn't did like a lot.

2101
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 2: You didn't did a lot. Yeah, for sure, what's the

2102
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 2: other money money? So that's a good year.

2103
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: At this point, it's kicking, it's it's it's cracking for you.

2104
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 2: And you're getting placements outside of because this is something

2105
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 2: that happens with in house producers. People think, oh, but

2106
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 2: maybe he can't do it for nobody else. So you

2107
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 2: going and getting a Grammy huge record with twenty one

2108
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 2: and j Cole.

2109
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 1: That was great. I'm sure woke it woke your game.

2110
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 4: Up a little bit. Yeah yeah, yeah, a little bit,

2111
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,799
Speaker 4: but it was it was a tab bit, bro, because

2112
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 4: human baby steps the whole time. Yeah, Bro, I've had

2113
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 4: to hustle it through every time. And what do you

2114
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 4: think that is wild?

2115
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: What I said? What do you think that is? You

2116
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: think this is? Like? People don't they're not sure if

2117
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 1: you can continue to keep show?

2118
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 4: So many times always had the underdog look on me

2119
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 4: like like it's almost like you can't.

2120
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,679
Speaker 1: I just know you can't do it. Your beer looks

2121
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: like you make its bro, I'm just saying it.

2122
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 2: You know, I can't grow one, so I gotta you know,

2123
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 2: I shout out, I shout.

2124
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,719
Speaker 1: Out the player. Can't you know the Valentine is a player.

2125
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm not a hate at all, you know.

2126
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean, when I see something fresh, I say, hey, man,

2127
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 2: look beer your beard man, right, yeah, just doing something.

2128
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 4: You're crazy, man, you got to rich nigga beer really man,

2129
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 4: shout to my barber, Man Malone.

2130
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 1: Bro.

2131
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 3: I ain't had a cutting like two days though, you.

2132
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 1: Can on the R and B Money podcast. Wanted to cut, Bro.

2133
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. You know how you

2134
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 1: have a barber, bro and my Barbara lives in Dallas.

2135
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 4: Man Vincent barber this, and I want to go see

2136
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 4: him this. This is Yeah, it's kind of hard to

2137
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 4: leave your people. You're flying out with you.

2138
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 1: Well, my barber leaves me, I don't leave him. He

2139
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: you know my barber.

2140
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, so I gotta I gotta go to

2141
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: Paris and cut for there.

2142
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Nigga, what I'm supposed to do? What do you do?

2143
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 2: San Francisco Giant hat They've seen it a couple of

2144
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 2: times on this podcast. If you see me with an

2145
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 2: SF Giants hat on, you're like, oh, Vince is out

2146
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 2: of town?

2147
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:40,600
Speaker 1: Is that? Bro? So you put a hat on?

2148
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 4: And I actually got here, by the way, I was

2149
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 4: wear a hat, but I got I got a nice

2150
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 4: look greater hair.

2151
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I got a nice little something something hanging on

2152
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:50,759
Speaker 1: or you got here, I got here.

2153
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 2: Now, okay, all right, listen, don't you know you won't

2154
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:54,640
Speaker 2: be disrespected.

2155
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna wear it right there too.

2156
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 4: Don't do me like that, baby, don't do me with

2157
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 4: the your saying. I'm still here with listen. I respect

2158
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 4: you because I'm an uncle here too. So now we're

2159
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 4: gonna definitely show it.

2160
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 1: Hey, no grades up in there now, I respect it.

2161
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 1: Put it back down. I respect. Let's get back to Okay,

2162
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 1: so let's get hit back to these hits. So then

2163
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 1: you go.

2164
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 2: And we're not going in a certain time because now

2165
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 2: we're just talking here. You got a game, so we're

2166
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:33,520
Speaker 2: gonna just talk now. It's Meg thee Stallion Savage.

2167
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,919
Speaker 1: How it happened? Right? That happened?

2168
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 4: First of all, I d m mad on Instagram. This

2169
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 4: guy even start. I need to work with you. Yeah,

2170
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 4: that's you do eighteen man. She's in Houston. She was

2171
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 4: going up. I said, yo, because I always want to

2172
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 4: just outdo myself. I'm like, man, yo, she got it

2173
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 4: like whatever. We just became. I just text on her, Yo,

2174
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 4: we got you kept missing each other.

2175
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 1: I want to work with you.

2176
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 3: I want to work.

2177
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 1: Let's work. She said, hell, yes, it's work. And and uh,

2178
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: you're living in Dallas at this point. Yea. Yeah.

2179
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 2: So when you when you get back cracking and it

2180
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 2: and it kicks off in New York.

2181
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,560
Speaker 1: Eventually you get back to Dallas. Hell yeah, about a

2182
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 1: year or so. Yeah, money gonna go longer.

2183
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,719
Speaker 4: Taxes, yeah, man, and I see what you doing. Twenty nineteen.

2184
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: I went at me.

2185
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:28,759
Speaker 4: I got me a little, you know, a little condo

2186
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 4: on the water. Felt good, it felt great, sounds good,

2187
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 4: It felt great. Man said, Man, this and Dallas is

2188
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 4: fly a lot of rock with Dallas. I love Dallas,

2189
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 4: man every place. I felt good.

2190
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 1: So you DM and Meg, Yeah, you connect with her.

2191
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 1: You're not working yet. No, we ain't working yet.

2192
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 4: My first time working with her was I was with

2193
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 4: Gucci and I was like, Yo, why don't you work

2194
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 4: with Megan Stallion. She had a song out called Big

2195
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 4: Old Freak at the time, and He's like damn.

2196
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 1: He was like yeah, he's like damn. Hey he was.

2197
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, can you get at her? I said, yeah,

2198
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm that's that's my dog. Like we be texting. I'm

2199
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 1: gonna call it.

2200
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 4: I called her. I said, Meg, you want you want

2201
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 4: hopping this song with Gucci. It's a song called it

2202
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 4: is a song we did call Big Booty. That was

2203
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 4: the first time and my first time meet Meg was

2204
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 4: at the video shoot in Miami, h that they did

2205
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 4: for a Big Booty and whatnot. And and then from

2206
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 4: there me and medg just got cool, do you place

2207
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 4: the record?

2208
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: Put her on a record? Y'all still hadn't met in

2209
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: person into the video shoot. Yeah, And how I met

2210
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Gucci is through Lin Ray long line Ray connected that

2211
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: we love, yeah love. Lin Ray sent me down to Miami.

2212
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 4: To work with Wop and Wop just instantly, just like yo,

2213
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 4: I fuck with you, bro, Like yeah yeah. But that's

2214
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 4: when I it was just the dots started connecting, bro,

2215
01:54:56,280 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 4: It just started connecting. But I went to Max Goose.

2216
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 4: Max Gouse called me a Max Maxcouse.

2217
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 1: He called me.

2218
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 4: He said, hey, I want you to come out here

2219
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 4: and work with my artists and what not.

2220
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: And I said, for sure.

2221
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 4: But can I bring my writer who I'm working with

2222
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 4: right now, and pretty much you know, warrant don't want

2223
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 4: to fly, you know, the person out you know, which

2224
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 4: is Bobby's session. You know, shout out to him, and

2225
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 4: I said, skip it. I fly by myself. Okay, I

2226
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 4: don't care flying out we up, I don't care, you

2227
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Well, it's a risk.

2228
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't care.

2229
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 4: It's like I'm gonna spend that money and if it

2230
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 4: work out, it workout. Unfortunately, you know, it didn't work

2231
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 4: out that trip, you know what I mean? For what

2232
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 4: for what we did? But I come back to Cali

2233
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 4: with Meg and I play Meg the idea.

2234
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: That you have for it?

2235
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 4: Uh huh okay, And that was savage, you know, And

2236
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 4: she said, hold on what.

2237
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 1: So Savage was supposed to be Sweetie's record. Damn, you're

2238
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: just gonna say it. Huh, Sweetie? You know I love

2239
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 1: you and you know we're talking about this. Listen. I've

2240
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 1: been trying to protect my people's man. What are you protecting?

2241
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 1: Like that's my dog? Okay, okay, listen, it don't have

2242
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 1: nothing to do it, you know what. All right, let's

2243
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 1: get to it, and you want to get to it

2244
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 1: was play for HER's instance in the business Listen played

2245
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 1: the idea for Sweetie.

2246
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 4: She didn't connect with it. It's all good, you know

2247
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 4: what I mean. We gave it a week I gave

2248
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 4: it a week. I said, man, y'all sure you don't

2249
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 4: want to smash good idea?

2250
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 3: I put it for meg Man said what oh, hell no,

2251
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 3: this is my record.

2252
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 1: Man.

2253
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 4: From there, the rest is history, you know. I think

2254
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 4: it was the last song that she put out on

2255
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 4: that little, quick, little mixtape that she did.

2256
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 1: Then the song to start going viral man, and the

2257
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 1: rest of history. It was COVID time. And then Beyonce

2258
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 1: Woo got on that thing.

2259
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 4: And Bro, who can say they got a Grammy with

2260
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 4: Beyonce and say they went number one?

2261
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: You can? You can?

2262
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 4: My brother's crazy, you can't. That's crazy. The COVID Grammys,

2263
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 4: the COVID Grammys. Bro, I remember watching it like they outside,

2264
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 4: they outside, Bro, this is different, different, Bro, They was

2265
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 4: outside outside.

2266
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't like the whole like tagline. It was like,

2267
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 2: that's got the Grammy's outside. You'll really wanted to outside.

2268
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 4: But to get a hit in COVID, Yeah, a hit,

2269
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 4: hit smash a smash covid.

2270
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 1: That was that felt great? Yeah?

2271
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 4: That Amy samples on Savage my brother man, Hey, but

2272
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 4: somebody did try to suit me though.

2273
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 1: Was it the Internet guy again? No? Was the Internet

2274
01:57:59,120 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 1: beat guy again?

2275
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 3: Like, let this nah, bro, listen. I literally.

2276
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 1: Lanrey told me that. She said, if you're not getting sued,

2277
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 1: you don't got to hit. Yeah.

2278
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 4: So I'm like, so when I found out I was

2279
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 4: getting sued, like I got hit, I gotta smash baby, yo. Bro,

2280
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 4: that that suit, that lawsuit just cleared up just a

2281
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 4: couple years ago. Wow, yeah yeah that yeah, yeah that

2282
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 4: was crazy.

2283
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 1: Bro.

2284
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:31,760
Speaker 4: It was like it was so bad. It was like

2285
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 4: such a bad lawsuit, Like really, all right, you're gonna

2286
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 4: what people just try?

2287
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 1: What? Like how did I hear your song and never

2288
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 1: came out? Yeah, it never came out.

2289
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 4: So somehow Chaff got it, and Chaff gave it to

2290
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 4: me and I made savage.

2291
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 1: Okay yeah done, done, done done, Okay, no for sure?

2292
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah all right so smash hit yeah another one,

2293
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 4: another one, another one. I'm feeling it. I'm making money too.

2294
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 4: I'm making money. I know I'm making money now. I'm

2295
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 4: ting upfront money. Upfront money.

2296
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 1: That's when you finally start Now if the savage is

2297
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: when you start finally getting to.

2298
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 4: That nineteen No twenty nineteen Bro, twenty nineteen Bro, I

2299
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 4: was making fifteen thousand in the upfront cash to one

2300
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 4: point five in twenty nineteen because I got a new lawyer.

2301
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 4: You know, at the time, she reached out to me,

2302
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 4: shout out to Jody should die.

2303
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 1: You know, she reached out to you.

2304
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 2: She wretched out to you because I was just asking,

2305
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 2: because I was going to ask how you spell rich

2306
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2307
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm sasking go chiefs, go cheese. You can't spell rich, bro, wretch,

2308
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 4: Damn you a rich.

2309
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:52,919
Speaker 1: A your w R.

2310
01:59:54,440 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 4: E T C ch wretch.

2311
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 1: She reached out to me. She watched out to me.

2312
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 1: Damn you got it like that, like reaches this wretches

2313
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:08,200
Speaker 1: like the chicken wing.

2314
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 3: They don't feel comfortable saying reached out.

2315
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 1: Bro.

2316
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 4: It feels like I'm just like stuck somewhere, like she

2317
02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 4: reached out to me. No, she That's how serious it was.

2318
02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 4: She watched out to me. I see you're trying to

2319
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:23,880
Speaker 4: make sense of it. But it's whatever. It's fine, Yo,

2320
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 4: it's fine. Anybody who say this is not the chat

2321
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 4: b y'all see this d emmy wretch, come on my

2322
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 4: page and put wretch wretch this mallet Okay, act chang

2323
02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 4: t It's real.

2324
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:40,360
Speaker 1: I got another hit that you did. Mean. Hey man, listen,

2325
02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:42,640
Speaker 1: let's get you back to the head. You gotta wretch.

2326
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 1: You don't I might make, might make. I want my

2327
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:48,440
Speaker 1: percentage to how much? I don't know. We'll figure out

2328
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:49,320
Speaker 1: with friends. Damn.

2329
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 3: Is it more than five.

2330
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 2: For the word for the for the homie? Give me

2331
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 2: ten because it's concept behind that too.

2332
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:06,400
Speaker 1: It's you. I mean, like listen, you know, I know, bro,

2333
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:08,400
Speaker 1: it's all good. Thank you, and I'll show to the

2334
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:15,120
Speaker 1: city our help bro. You wow, Bro, I like it good.

2335
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm known to be business, but always good business, good business.

2336
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 1: I like it business. Don't you for shure what it is?

2337
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:35,960
Speaker 1: What it is? That song What's up? What's up? Man?

2338
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,880
Speaker 1: That's what That's what it really sounds like with me

2339
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:45,280
Speaker 1: when I grew up. What's uh? Can that nigga? Am hm?

2340
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 1: You turn that into a pop absolutely smash me and

2341
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 1: Brian Kennedy b K. Hey, hold on now he owe

2342
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,120
Speaker 1: me his life? Come on now? You know what I mean?

2343
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:59,160
Speaker 2: Like you know here take you k Yeah. We talked

2344
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 2: about it before, we talked when he was on the show.

2345
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 1: We looked about it. I almost shot him one day.

2346
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,400
Speaker 1: It was Little Ronnie fought man lit.

2347
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:10,960
Speaker 2: I walked in my studio and the door was unlocked

2348
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 2: and he was in there playing piano, and I was like,

2349
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 2: I want to shoot this nigga, but he played.

2350
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:20,400
Speaker 4: So well, amazing, He's amazing, one of the best ever.

2351
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:22,600
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Yes, you want to shoot

2352
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 4: this nigga broke in my house and played the piano.

2353
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:26,880
Speaker 1: He broke your house? He didn't, but that, in my

2354
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:28,080
Speaker 1: mind is the street nigga.

2355
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm thinking this nigga broke in my house and said

2356
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:32,280
Speaker 2: that the piano just start playing, is playing.

2357
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, who are Yeah? I love that guy. Yeah, man,

2358
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 1: I love that guy.

2359
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 4: But so you b k and fresh and fresh blush

2360
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:50,040
Speaker 4: okay and verse senting and verse.

2361
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:53,000
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, come on, We're gonna get to that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2362
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:56,080
Speaker 1: that's a very powerful team. We did that. Shout out

2363
02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 1: to the people nor money. First though, look at you

2364
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 1: saying who records? Well you don'na do it. You know

2365
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 1: you did it because when you mentioned who had brought

2366
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:07,440
Speaker 1: you out there, I'm like, oh, okay, so that i'd

2367
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 1: just be I'll be putting puzzles together. Ship.

2368
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:13,080
Speaker 4: Well, it was already put out there that no money

2369
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 4: just she passed on it.

2370
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:17,360
Speaker 3: So it's all good as a public.

2371
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:18,480
Speaker 1: Information all right.

2372
02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 4: So she passed on the record, but a lot of

2373
02:03:22,080 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 4: people passed on that song though, you know, and she was.

2374
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 1: The prominent name that it got there.

2375
02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but she was. Actually it was for her though,

2376
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:35,800
Speaker 4: like shit cut it. No, she we we had sessions

2377
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 4: doing COVID.

2378
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wrote it for her.

2379
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 4: It was literally she was supposed to come in but

2380
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 4: doing COVID people was iffy to come in the studio.

2381
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I was on face.

2382
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 4: I called her. I was like the first day she

2383
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 4: liked it. Then the second day You're like, I don't know. Yeah,

2384
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 4: I said, damn for real, all right and whatever. And

2385
02:03:56,640 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 4: it just stayed getting cut by people until to landed

2386
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 4: and To landed on adult you and she made her

2387
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 4: own adult she she did what she did with it.

2388
02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 4: She killed she killed that ship. She killed the top

2389
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:14,240
Speaker 4: dog man top You know that. Come on, man, you

2390
02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:16,720
Speaker 4: you know I love t D. Yes, they make sure

2391
02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 4: your boy good.

2392
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 1: I love t D E. I love me a t

2393
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:25,760
Speaker 1: D and E. Speaking of t D. Yeah, man, then

2394
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 1: you go and do thirty for thirty for Shure citizen

2395
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 1: for sure? For sure? Chat? What's what's theiggs again? You do? Chat? Yeah?

2396
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 1: Should that? Yeah? Come, don't do this to me. It's

2397
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 1: your wreck, you.

2398
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 4: Know, yoga, man, huh chat chat Damn that Joe Brown

2399
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:53,520
Speaker 4: will lie. Bro, that song piped me up in a

2400
02:04:53,920 --> 02:05:00,000
Speaker 4: different way. I think it solidified me as in the industry.

2401
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:05,840
Speaker 2: What yeah, Bro, all them years, all them hits, you

2402
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:07,360
Speaker 2: feel like that record was the one.

2403
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 4: For you, yeah, man, because yeah, to think about this

2404
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 4: right here, Bro, Like if I name my recent on

2405
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:18,280
Speaker 4: my earlier hit records, CARDI B wasn't a household name.

2406
02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 4: The song had to got you, bight through, got you through,

2407
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 4: you got you, got you?

2408
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 1: You feel me? Yeah?

2409
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:27,760
Speaker 2: You got thirty for thirty on two Superstars. They go

2410
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,000
Speaker 2: to they going to do a stadium tour and perform

2411
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 2: this record every night.

2412
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 1: I Got You, I Got You. I see what you saying.

2413
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:34,280
Speaker 1: It's a big difference. Yeah.

2414
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:38,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I appreciate them because, like, damn, this is

2415
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:42,400
Speaker 4: like really one of my first first times. They moments

2416
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 4: were so huge already.

2417
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:47,520
Speaker 2: What made you sample the barge for that, bro, because

2418
02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:48,680
Speaker 2: it's been sample.

2419
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah for sure? Shot the polo right, yeah for sure? Yeah.

2420
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:54,120
Speaker 4: Like what made you be like, okay, this could work again.

2421
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:58,400
Speaker 4: It's it's time, honestly, bro, And this is my ignorance.

2422
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:03,520
Speaker 4: I was just going through all these songs Switch. I

2423
02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:05,640
Speaker 4: was just up at night going through this song. I said,

2424
02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:07,480
Speaker 4: the bar Bobby, yeah, but yeah.

2425
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah Bobby the bar, shout Bobby the bars junr.

2426
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:12,160
Speaker 1: That's my boy. Man.

2427
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm going through all the Switch records because I'm I

2428
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:16,320
Speaker 3: like the Barges in general.

2429
02:06:16,360 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 4: But I'm like, the Switch is no, you know, Switches,

2430
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 4: that's the first, first mothership, that's the mothership of it.

2431
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:25,000
Speaker 4: So I'm going through Switch, which I'm like, man that

2432
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 4: this is just all these songs are beautiful. Then I

2433
02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 4: come on this one. I said, wait, in a second,

2434
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:38,160
Speaker 4: I know this, and then I heard the whole song.

2435
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:47,520
Speaker 4: I said, oh Ship, that's fun. Wow, oh Ship. Okay,

2436
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:51,960
Speaker 4: let me let me try look. Let let me sample

2437
02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 4: it in my way of how I would sample it. Yeah,

2438
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 4: you know, I sampled it in my way.

2439
02:06:57,480 --> 02:06:57,640
Speaker 1: Now.

2440
02:06:57,720 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 4: The final cut of three for three already a lot

2441
02:07:01,360 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 4: of sounds that I had in there and movements muted

2442
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 4: out of there.

2443
02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 1: You know.

2444
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:11,680
Speaker 4: It's what's what y'all hear today is just a very

2445
02:07:11,720 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 4: simple record, which is fine.

2446
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:13,800
Speaker 1: You know.

2447
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:17,560
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I do simple songs and whatnot. But yeah,

2448
02:07:17,600 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 4: man that I went. When I heard that, I said,

2449
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 4: why not, I'm gonna try to take a stab at

2450
02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:27,200
Speaker 4: that too, gosh, And that's that's what it was. Another

2451
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:29,880
Speaker 4: smash and I definitely had to call my brother Polo though,

2452
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:32,960
Speaker 4: Bro I had to call it shot one two three

2453
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 4: for himself. God dang, cause Polo he said, hey, you

2454
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 4: know you got that.

2455
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,560
Speaker 1: Said, I'm like, Bro, I didn't know that because Ronnie

2456
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 1: had to call me and he was like, hey, man,

2457
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:45,240
Speaker 1: call Polo. Bro.

2458
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 4: I said, okay, let me go ahead and call Polo

2459
02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:50,440
Speaker 4: and talk to Polo about it. But yeah, but but

2460
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 4: it was you know, that's big bro.

2461
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:54,800
Speaker 1: Man. It was love though. That's dope. That's dope. Bro.

2462
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, you got you know, let's let's let's go

2463
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:00,920
Speaker 2: ahead and it's it's time to talk about it. Now,

2464
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:03,480
Speaker 2: it's time to talk about it man, because you have

2465
02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 2: a very controversial record.

2466
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:11,600
Speaker 3: The boss Mans Home Plays of the Week.

2467
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:15,200
Speaker 4: You definitely have Plays of the Week, but you have

2468
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:17,680
Speaker 4: a very controversial record. That's something I did with it

2469
02:08:17,760 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 4: gets you want to keep going, come on, say some

2470
02:08:20,360 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 4: work you're done, because I'm.

2471
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,520
Speaker 1: Trying to figure out is it the one with I

2472
02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:27,520
Speaker 1: don't know, just keep going I ain't got no more.

2473
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:35,680
Speaker 2: You have a record that goes where all my scamming ass.

2474
02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 3: For sure, and they know the rest. They know you're

2475
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 3: gonna say it.

2476
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:46,160
Speaker 4: No damn all right, Nope, I can't get no, no, nope,

2477
02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:46,720
Speaker 4: don't promo.

2478
02:08:48,560 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 1: Ain't that money spinning that you spend it? And will man?

2479
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 2: And I sure will though I have a man we are,

2480
02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:23,720
Speaker 2: we are, we spend. But let's get into this record, man,

2481
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 2: because that record has caused a frenzy from the day

2482
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 2: it was released. I remember I always got to talk

2483
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 2: about what I remembering about. I remember going online and

2484
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 2: this before I knew you did.

2485
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 1: It, because it was only I had only seen a clip.

2486
02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:41,840
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the j white term yet.

2487
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 2: I've seen a clip that was being passed around of

2488
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:50,560
Speaker 2: young Miami wrapping the record, and then I looked at

2489
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 2: the comments and they were murdering her.

2490
02:09:53,640 --> 02:10:01,640
Speaker 1: They were it was so evil. It wasn't even like

2491
02:10:01,680 --> 02:10:03,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, it was mean.

2492
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:05,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't even constructive criticians.

2493
02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, it was mean.

2494
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:09,000
Speaker 4: And I'm like, why do they Why are these people

2495
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,000
Speaker 4: mean to her? For so mean to this girl? And

2496
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 4: this shit jaming.

2497
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:18,880
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's my first thought. To the point that

2498
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:22,400
Speaker 1: I was in a group chat with a lot of

2499
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:26,160
Speaker 1: different people for y'all who were bashing the record, and

2500
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm reading it until I finally chime in and I'm like,

2501
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:34,200
Speaker 1: that shit jamming, And then some other people came in.

2502
02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:38,400
Speaker 2: Was like, I think so too, damn, but I'm watching

2503
02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:42,520
Speaker 2: the I'm watching people just just bash it. And I

2504
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:44,480
Speaker 2: was like, but you gotta understand too, And this is

2505
02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 2: me and this is I don't want to say it's

2506
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:52,600
Speaker 2: a disclaimer about myself, but I'm a feeling person. If

2507
02:10:52,640 --> 02:10:57,680
Speaker 2: it feel good to me, I'm rolling. I't fuck I

2508
02:10:57,720 --> 02:11:00,280
Speaker 2: mean first time speaking of Polo. Polo was a first

2509
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:03,560
Speaker 2: person to send me laughy taffy for a wow and

2510
02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:05,120
Speaker 2: he was like, tell what you think.

2511
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:07,040
Speaker 1: I was like this ship jam he said. I told

2512
02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:10,560
Speaker 1: Nigga and ship Jammy niggas is hating. I'm like that

2513
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 1: ship I like that ship. Yeah, I hit it. It

2514
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:15,320
Speaker 1: felt good to me. Feel good.

2515
02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 2: So whenever I hear a record, I don't give a

2516
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 2: fuck what nobody else says.

2517
02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:22,080
Speaker 1: Feel good as long as you feel good to me.

2518
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 1: And I feel like I got a pretty good hear

2519
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 1: Thank you sir, and I'm willing to I'm willing to

2520
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:35,080
Speaker 1: stand in front of that, which a lot of people aren't.

2521
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:39,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people will wait and be like, oh,

2522
02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:41,080
Speaker 1: y'all do like it? I like it after.

2523
02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:44,960
Speaker 2: Instead of being like a sheep man, man, I'll stand

2524
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:46,560
Speaker 2: on the table about something if I'm wrong.

2525
02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I've been wrong, but I trust these things.

2526
02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 1: Trust Thank you Lord for these I trust these.

2527
02:11:55,800 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 2: So I'm watching all this happen, and then I'm also,

2528
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:07,800
Speaker 2: in a matter of a couple of weeks a week

2529
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:08,360
Speaker 2: or two.

2530
02:12:08,360 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 1: Watching the shift. Oh. People starting like it, people starting

2531
02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 1: to like it, people starting to embrace it. But then

2532
02:12:15,560 --> 02:12:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm watching the people who don't like it, or having

2533
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 1: heard it and maybe don't like it, get even louder too.

2534
02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:31,840
Speaker 1: And it's like a swell yeah man, that turns into

2535
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:37,840
Speaker 1: a smash that records, big one, a big one, bro

2536
02:12:38,080 --> 02:12:40,000
Speaker 1: cultural moment, cultural moment.

2537
02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 2: My eighty year old auntie who I love, dancing at

2538
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:49,760
Speaker 2: the house.

2539
02:12:51,160 --> 02:12:58,280
Speaker 1: When that came on Wow with my twenty something niece.

2540
02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:03,880
Speaker 1: It feels good, like it's a great record. But I

2541
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 1: don't care what this is.

2542
02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm standing on that like a lot of people don't

2543
02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 2: like it, that's fine music.

2544
02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:21,840
Speaker 1: Is subjective. It is that record. It's so catchy. I said, Man,

2545
02:13:21,880 --> 02:13:27,800
Speaker 1: it feel good. It's funky. This feel good faks. Walk

2546
02:13:27,880 --> 02:13:32,600
Speaker 1: me through Young Miami and spend that. Bro.

2547
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:36,080
Speaker 4: I love Young Miami. She's amazing. First of all, she's amazing,

2548
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:37,840
Speaker 4: a great artist to work with.

2549
02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:40,360
Speaker 1: She comes in. Man.

2550
02:13:40,520 --> 02:13:42,880
Speaker 4: We were there for about a week. Man, we just

2551
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:45,640
Speaker 4: working on records. It's like one of our last songs

2552
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:48,920
Speaker 4: that we did for that week. She said, Jay Wight,

2553
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 4: I want something that feel sexy. I want something that

2554
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:56,520
Speaker 4: feel you know good. I wanted to feel like this though.

2555
02:13:57,440 --> 02:14:02,840
Speaker 4: I wanted to feel like that. And I said, but cool.

2556
02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:06,320
Speaker 4: I started that drum pattern, bro, and we lit bro

2557
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:09,440
Speaker 4: and back back then y'all in Miami were in Miami.

2558
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:16,120
Speaker 4: Bro a twelve studios. Bro, you me verse fresh. Yeah,

2559
02:14:16,680 --> 02:14:19,640
Speaker 4: hey Young Miami, you know what I mean? And yeah,

2560
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:26,080
Speaker 4: I mean Child's there too. Shoot, man, I've seen that

2561
02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:28,200
Speaker 4: smile and I played them chords.

2562
02:14:28,440 --> 02:14:34,120
Speaker 1: M M. I looked over. She started, and BRO, I

2563
02:14:34,120 --> 02:14:36,440
Speaker 1: don't lie. I don't drink no more for real like that.

2564
02:14:36,520 --> 02:14:39,960
Speaker 1: But I was gone, my boy. I was gone off

2565
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:42,080
Speaker 1: that I would drink like that no more. But I

2566
02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:43,200
Speaker 1: was out of there.

2567
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:46,680
Speaker 4: Hey, all, my hit records I've done. I've always been sober.

2568
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:50,840
Speaker 4: This song right here, I was out of there, no lie,

2569
02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:55,320
Speaker 4: I mean I was through there. I'm talking about I

2570
02:14:56,800 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 4: was on fifty. I'm not gonna live out of ten.

2571
02:14:59,400 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 1: I was. I was on.

2572
02:15:00,200 --> 02:15:03,720
Speaker 3: Fifty, bro. But I had to get that mold though.

2573
02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:07,200
Speaker 4: The process was magical, man Like, from what I can

2574
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:10,360
Speaker 4: remember that, the.

2575
02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:14,000
Speaker 1: Process was dope. I can't remember. No, no, man.

2576
02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:16,520
Speaker 4: She You know, Miami is easy to write for it

2577
02:15:16,600 --> 02:15:20,000
Speaker 4: because she pretty much puts her life out there. She's

2578
02:15:20,080 --> 02:15:22,000
Speaker 4: easy to now you say, right for it because she's

2579
02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:23,040
Speaker 4: she actually writes.

2580
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:24,720
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. She she right.

2581
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:27,200
Speaker 4: People don't think she right. But that girl right there

2582
02:15:27,560 --> 02:15:29,840
Speaker 4: in the cipher, like how we do our song. It's

2583
02:15:29,880 --> 02:15:32,640
Speaker 4: like a cipher. You got fresh, you got verse, you

2584
02:15:32,680 --> 02:15:35,839
Speaker 4: got Miami, And I'm sitting there with the keys, yeah,

2585
02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:39,080
Speaker 4: and we writing that verse out and Miami is leading

2586
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:42,120
Speaker 4: the charge with her life. She said, nah, I wouldn't

2587
02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:45,360
Speaker 4: say that. No, I'll say it's about her, Yes, about her,

2588
02:15:45,720 --> 02:15:48,400
Speaker 4: And then pretty much she's she's sent it through the blender,

2589
02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:52,400
Speaker 4: fresh and verse and it comes out boom.

2590
02:15:52,720 --> 02:15:54,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's like how I came

2591
02:15:54,080 --> 02:16:00,280
Speaker 1: up the wretch. You know what I'm saying. He said,

2592
02:16:00,720 --> 02:16:02,760
Speaker 1: T was in now he ain't gonna rench it out.

2593
02:16:02,800 --> 02:16:05,080
Speaker 1: He said, we're gonna reach this thing up. Matter of fact,

2594
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:11,080
Speaker 1: this co producer at this point, no minus, well this

2595
02:16:11,200 --> 02:16:16,120
Speaker 1: man gonna get me a like no dog, well you talk,

2596
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:21,480
Speaker 1: Come on, Jay, come on Bro, it's okay, b big podcast.

2597
02:16:21,600 --> 02:16:24,400
Speaker 1: God damn it. Bro.

2598
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:28,200
Speaker 4: That process it was. It didn't take long. It's like

2599
02:16:28,200 --> 02:16:30,600
Speaker 4: two hours, so like it didn't take long. It was

2600
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:33,840
Speaker 4: a party, bro. If you if you seen have you

2601
02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:38,720
Speaker 4: seen the video? Yes, that was the session. Yeah, it

2602
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:39,640
Speaker 4: was just fun like that.

2603
02:16:40,480 --> 02:16:46,520
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, yeah I've seen it. Good time.

2604
02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:56,000
Speaker 1: Looks like it was fun. Make sure y'all don on him. No,

2605
02:16:56,560 --> 02:16:57,880
Speaker 1: it was. It was amazing.

2606
02:16:57,920 --> 02:17:01,360
Speaker 4: But I can't say it was an overthought thing because

2607
02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:05,400
Speaker 4: we did a vibe. It's just vibbing out, man, and

2608
02:17:05,480 --> 02:17:09,320
Speaker 4: it came out and she said, Jay, I really love

2609
02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:10,440
Speaker 4: this song.

2610
02:17:10,520 --> 02:17:13,240
Speaker 1: I said me too. So was it immediate?

2611
02:17:14,520 --> 02:17:16,240
Speaker 2: Like I know it wasn't immediate in the streets because

2612
02:17:16,280 --> 02:17:18,280
Speaker 2: I watched that happen. I watched people that hate the

2613
02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:20,879
Speaker 2: whole thing. But like, was it the media within like

2614
02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:26,160
Speaker 2: the launch of it, or was people kind of like

2615
02:17:26,240 --> 02:17:28,640
Speaker 2: I don't we don't know. We all taking a chance.

2616
02:17:29,680 --> 02:17:31,520
Speaker 4: I feel like anytime you have a record that you

2617
02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:33,600
Speaker 4: don't know about, I feel like people who don't understand

2618
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:36,600
Speaker 4: it's gonna feel like that. And that's okay, yeah, because

2619
02:17:36,600 --> 02:17:40,200
Speaker 4: that's how people. That's how I feel with when execs

2620
02:17:40,200 --> 02:17:41,959
Speaker 4: are artists want to work with me, it's still that

2621
02:17:42,040 --> 02:17:46,359
Speaker 4: I don't know because I'm not your cookie cutter producer,

2622
02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:46,760
Speaker 4: you know.

2623
02:17:48,200 --> 02:17:50,680
Speaker 2: And none of these records that I've named but we've

2624
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:51,879
Speaker 2: named it sounded like.

2625
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:53,600
Speaker 1: Not at all.

2626
02:17:53,640 --> 02:17:54,720
Speaker 3: That's why I laugh at most stuff.

2627
02:17:55,120 --> 02:17:59,160
Speaker 2: Been that in Bodak Yellow and thirty for thirty and

2628
02:17:59,440 --> 02:18:03,120
Speaker 2: what it is is I like it like that all

2629
02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:04,400
Speaker 2: live on different planets.

2630
02:18:04,680 --> 02:18:07,320
Speaker 4: But guess what they got though in common? What they

2631
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:08,279
Speaker 4: got a feeling?

2632
02:18:08,800 --> 02:18:10,959
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I thought, what you're gonna say, Jay White.

2633
02:18:10,760 --> 02:18:13,039
Speaker 3: But no, a feeling. It's bigger than me.

2634
02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:17,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, the feeling will always be here, no longer than

2635
02:18:17,160 --> 02:18:22,800
Speaker 4: all of us. Feeling bod that Yellow. It gave you

2636
02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:27,160
Speaker 4: a feeling of just man like, what the it's a moment.

2637
02:18:27,760 --> 02:18:30,560
Speaker 4: It was a moment. It felt like like the Chiefs

2638
02:18:30,560 --> 02:18:32,160
Speaker 4: win the super Bowl or something like that. You know

2639
02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:35,320
Speaker 4: what I'm saying like it felt cultural. It dude, it did.

2640
02:18:35,720 --> 02:18:38,240
Speaker 2: It felt Chiefs winning the super Bowl is not cultural.

2641
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:40,240
Speaker 2: It's just something that is within you.

2642
02:18:40,600 --> 02:18:43,360
Speaker 4: I think the whole it's just like me saying planting,

2643
02:18:43,600 --> 02:18:45,160
Speaker 4: I think the whole us want us to win back

2644
02:18:45,280 --> 02:18:47,400
Speaker 4: back at that time, back then, back when you be

2645
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:51,279
Speaker 4: child the first time. I feel like we they definitely

2646
02:18:51,320 --> 02:18:54,440
Speaker 4: wanted it felt cultural like the other the underdogars one.

2647
02:18:54,680 --> 02:18:55,440
Speaker 3: That's what it felt like.

2648
02:18:56,000 --> 02:19:01,959
Speaker 1: So but anyway, you you definitely shoot nigga.

2649
02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:04,520
Speaker 4: No no, no, no no, I'm just I'm just comparing to

2650
02:19:04,560 --> 02:19:06,320
Speaker 4: the Winds five niggas.

2651
02:19:06,560 --> 02:19:12,800
Speaker 3: So y'all get this, man, bro, But yeah, feeling.

2652
02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:20,920
Speaker 1: What is your thoughts on the controversy? Like what are you? Like,

2653
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:25,920
Speaker 1: honest thoughts? I mean, what's your thoughts? Love?

2654
02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:28,840
Speaker 2: Because it's you, it's it's your record along with with

2655
02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:31,880
Speaker 2: our with our brothers Fresh and in Verse.

2656
02:19:32,160 --> 02:19:33,760
Speaker 1: Man, you know what I mean. It's y'all record. But

2657
02:19:33,800 --> 02:19:35,440
Speaker 1: like what, I.

2658
02:19:35,360 --> 02:19:38,720
Speaker 4: Love it, bro, Like I when I seen people talking

2659
02:19:38,720 --> 02:19:42,840
Speaker 4: about it, I just smiled, man, I really did. I

2660
02:19:43,959 --> 02:19:46,920
Speaker 4: smiled at it and I said, dang, we got one,

2661
02:19:47,080 --> 02:19:50,360
Speaker 4: like we got a conversational record.

2662
02:19:50,480 --> 02:19:52,440
Speaker 1: So you never you've never had the moment where you

2663
02:19:52,440 --> 02:19:54,920
Speaker 1: feel attacked, though I.

2664
02:19:54,879 --> 02:19:59,240
Speaker 4: Never felt I personal ever felt attacked at all. I

2665
02:19:59,240 --> 02:20:04,560
Speaker 4: didn't appreciate and I don't appreciate the meanness in people

2666
02:20:05,320 --> 02:20:08,879
Speaker 4: tear somebody down over a song that they don't like.

2667
02:20:09,720 --> 02:20:11,880
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I ain't. I wasn't a

2668
02:20:11,879 --> 02:20:16,320
Speaker 4: fan of that. And also some of like our peers

2669
02:20:16,360 --> 02:20:20,120
Speaker 4: too in the game and not speaking on India, but

2670
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:23,000
Speaker 4: just you know, there was a few other people just

2671
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:28,320
Speaker 4: speaking very nasty and negative. It was almost like, how

2672
02:20:28,800 --> 02:20:31,400
Speaker 4: can you speak this way about a song? Why would

2673
02:20:31,440 --> 02:20:37,200
Speaker 4: you want to boycott another person's opportunity or their moment?

2674
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:38,680
Speaker 1: Why would you want to put that out there? Why?

2675
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:41,000
Speaker 3: Why'd you want to put that words a powerful words

2676
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:41,400
Speaker 3: are real?

2677
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:45,840
Speaker 4: Why would you say why would you say we got

2678
02:20:45,879 --> 02:20:47,680
Speaker 4: to stop this from getting to the Grammys? And I'm

2679
02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:48,320
Speaker 4: a Grammy voter.

2680
02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:52,800
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, Wow, that's that's fucked up, Like, why would

2681
02:20:52,800 --> 02:20:53,800
Speaker 1: you say that? I don't.

2682
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:56,879
Speaker 4: I ain't like that, you know what I mean? But

2683
02:20:57,080 --> 02:21:01,680
Speaker 4: everything else cool. You know, I did a video.

2684
02:21:02,840 --> 02:21:05,680
Speaker 1: Did you see it? That sound? I did a video

2685
02:21:07,560 --> 02:21:07,800
Speaker 1: for me?

2686
02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:10,320
Speaker 4: You know, if y'all ain't seen the video, it's a

2687
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:15,720
Speaker 4: video I did. I mashed up spend that and INDII

2688
02:21:15,800 --> 02:21:17,720
Speaker 4: re song video which I loved that.

2689
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:20,000
Speaker 1: Song about the amazing record. I love that song.

2690
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:24,800
Speaker 4: I did it at lightheartness and just like, come on, man,

2691
02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:27,640
Speaker 4: it's music because you are a DJ and I DJ.

2692
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:29,720
Speaker 4: It's like why not, like I would have did it

2693
02:21:29,760 --> 02:21:32,680
Speaker 4: whether people are mad or not. It's just wow, I

2694
02:21:33,160 --> 02:21:36,240
Speaker 4: mash up songs. But you know I did that and

2695
02:21:36,440 --> 02:21:39,120
Speaker 4: that that threw me in that spotlight. And bro, do

2696
02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:41,879
Speaker 4: you know I got threatened. I got threatened for my

2697
02:21:41,959 --> 02:21:42,760
Speaker 4: life and all that.

2698
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:45,320
Speaker 1: Bro, people threaten your life. They threatened my life. Bro,

2699
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:46,840
Speaker 1: M my d M.

2700
02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:50,520
Speaker 3: Bro they take some people tell about my kids.

2701
02:21:50,600 --> 02:21:55,640
Speaker 1: They they helped me and my kids often, Like, bro.

2702
02:21:55,600 --> 02:21:59,400
Speaker 4: It was like over over a mashup. I'm like, I

2703
02:21:59,480 --> 02:22:02,400
Speaker 4: never said nothing disrespectful to you know this this woman.

2704
02:22:02,480 --> 02:22:06,400
Speaker 4: I never said nothing personally, it was nothing. I'm really

2705
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:09,680
Speaker 4: keeping it music. But but a lot of people online,

2706
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah that's interesting. Yeah, you know, over a moment, you know.

2707
02:22:15,320 --> 02:22:19,920
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think I think culturally what happens is

2708
02:22:21,879 --> 02:22:24,760
Speaker 2: there's there's so much going on in our world that

2709
02:22:28,320 --> 02:22:33,920
Speaker 2: people people just they don't separate. They don't separate, and

2710
02:22:33,959 --> 02:22:36,680
Speaker 2: that's and that's their choice. That's their choice, you know,

2711
02:22:36,760 --> 02:22:38,960
Speaker 2: how to separate the music from the person, or the

2712
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:40,480
Speaker 2: music from.

2713
02:22:40,640 --> 02:22:42,600
Speaker 1: Reality, or whatever that may be.

2714
02:22:42,840 --> 02:22:44,920
Speaker 2: But like I said, for me, man, I'm I'm just

2715
02:22:44,959 --> 02:22:49,640
Speaker 2: a person who I love music and I love to

2716
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:55,360
Speaker 2: feel something from music, whatever that is, and that something

2717
02:22:55,400 --> 02:22:58,560
Speaker 2: make me smile, I'll be smiling. Did But I'm also

2718
02:23:00,040 --> 02:23:03,680
Speaker 2: I'm also from a different place too, you know what

2719
02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:06,240
Speaker 2: I mean. I all my my school clothes when I

2720
02:23:06,280 --> 02:23:09,240
Speaker 2: was in middle school came from boosters, you know what

2721
02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:11,240
Speaker 2: I mean, in elementary and you know what I'm saying,

2722
02:23:11,360 --> 02:23:14,640
Speaker 2: like a lot of them. And I'm kind of still

2723
02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:18,440
Speaker 2: looking for a booster here, daddy. Yeah, I do know

2724
02:23:18,480 --> 02:23:21,200
Speaker 2: a couple, mean, you know, I mean, I don't know

2725
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:25,800
Speaker 2: him personally, but I like the I like the fifty.

2726
02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:29,600
Speaker 2: It's hard out here, man, It's very hard out here.

2727
02:23:29,720 --> 02:23:31,320
Speaker 2: My Mama's that's what she did, bro.

2728
02:23:32,400 --> 02:23:35,960
Speaker 1: So I get it. I got family members that, you

2729
02:23:36,040 --> 02:23:36,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

2730
02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:40,720
Speaker 4: What's the difference between a news reporter stating news and

2731
02:23:40,840 --> 02:23:41,520
Speaker 4: a song.

2732
02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:46,480
Speaker 3: Because don't the news don't don't don't they fear?

2733
02:23:48,480 --> 02:23:48,840
Speaker 1: Yes?

2734
02:23:49,320 --> 02:23:51,360
Speaker 2: Yes, And I get where I get what. I get

2735
02:23:51,400 --> 02:23:54,520
Speaker 2: what you're saying. But I also understand the people that

2736
02:23:54,560 --> 02:24:00,920
Speaker 2: are like promoting when they say you're promoting a lifestyle, right,

2737
02:24:01,120 --> 02:24:05,840
Speaker 2: So I understand. I understand both views of it. For

2738
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:09,240
Speaker 2: me personally, I'm just into music. I like music, and

2739
02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:12,640
Speaker 2: you know, when people and when people bring up kids,

2740
02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:17,760
Speaker 2: I also have kids. I raise my kids a certain way. Absolutely, hey,

2741
02:24:18,080 --> 02:24:21,240
Speaker 2: right right, wrong is wrong. This is that you ain't

2742
02:24:21,280 --> 02:24:23,640
Speaker 2: gonna be that. This is we own and I'm going

2743
02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:26,560
Speaker 2: to show you better than I can tell you Lee

2744
02:24:26,680 --> 02:24:27,400
Speaker 2: by example.

2745
02:24:29,400 --> 02:24:35,240
Speaker 1: So I'm not looking for movies, music or the internet

2746
02:24:35,280 --> 02:24:36,000
Speaker 1: to raise my child.

2747
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:40,560
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you. That's just me, I

2748
02:24:40,600 --> 02:24:42,400
Speaker 4: feel like. So I approach things.

2749
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:46,840
Speaker 1: Differently, the best way ever, the best way ever. Yeah

2750
02:24:47,640 --> 02:24:50,840
Speaker 1: that it's your choice to me. That's to you and

2751
02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:56,000
Speaker 1: to me. But I say all that to say, I

2752
02:24:56,080 --> 02:24:59,360
Speaker 1: love that record. Thank you, Records, Jamming, thank You've had

2753
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:02,280
Speaker 1: a lot of arguments about that record, but thank you.

2754
02:25:02,400 --> 02:25:04,720
Speaker 1: And I'm not even an arguing I'm not even an

2755
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:08,160
Speaker 1: arguing person. I'm not. I'll say I've had debates because

2756
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm not an arguing person. I'm not. I'm not.

2757
02:25:09,879 --> 02:25:11,640
Speaker 3: I don't know that I mess your question though, do

2758
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:13,279
Speaker 3: you think it's the song?

2759
02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't think.

2760
02:25:14,320 --> 02:25:16,520
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a song, bro, what do you

2761
02:25:16,560 --> 02:25:19,520
Speaker 4: think it's the person? I think people got a distaste

2762
02:25:19,560 --> 02:25:24,600
Speaker 4: for Miami for some weird reason. They don't like her.

2763
02:25:25,040 --> 02:25:28,039
Speaker 4: And I think that it got louder when the song

2764
02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:30,360
Speaker 4: really became a hit record. I feel like if the

2765
02:25:30,440 --> 02:25:33,760
Speaker 4: song dout it like people wanted to do, it wouldn't

2766
02:25:33,800 --> 02:25:37,760
Speaker 4: have this conversation and it'd be a laughingstock. But now

2767
02:25:37,879 --> 02:25:39,520
Speaker 4: the fact that the song was in the top twenties

2768
02:25:39,560 --> 02:25:42,520
Speaker 4: on the Hot one hundred. Oh, I can't believe this,

2769
02:25:42,680 --> 02:25:47,080
Speaker 4: thank you. I can't believe this song and her m

2770
02:25:48,040 --> 02:25:53,320
Speaker 4: she her do you know her life? You know she

2771
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:58,360
Speaker 4: can't do this, she can't do that. Y'all noticed this.

2772
02:25:58,360 --> 02:26:01,080
Speaker 4: This woman read it to hear this stuff, right, y'all.

2773
02:26:01,160 --> 02:26:05,680
Speaker 4: Y'all know that her her skin bleased too. Y'all know

2774
02:26:05,720 --> 02:26:10,280
Speaker 4: she's a human. Yeah, And that affects somebody when they're

2775
02:26:10,280 --> 02:26:10,760
Speaker 4: trying to work.

2776
02:26:10,800 --> 02:26:14,640
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean. Sure, you know. I

2777
02:26:14,680 --> 02:26:15,760
Speaker 1: feel like the people.

2778
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:20,760
Speaker 4: They got tired of seeing the person who they sing

2779
02:26:21,280 --> 02:26:22,560
Speaker 4: lose lately.

2780
02:26:23,879 --> 02:26:30,560
Speaker 1: When gotcha excuse me, blessure, thank you? Yeah, I think

2781
02:26:30,560 --> 02:26:31,320
Speaker 1: I think that's what it was.

2782
02:26:31,600 --> 02:26:33,320
Speaker 4: I feel I feel like I feel like the people who

2783
02:26:33,560 --> 02:26:37,560
Speaker 4: got louder to the ones who really they were championed

2784
02:26:37,680 --> 02:26:42,920
Speaker 4: thee Yeah, it's like they said, oh, y'all all like this, No,

2785
02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:44,879
Speaker 4: we don't like this now, y'all was like this song?

2786
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:47,200
Speaker 1: What the song is this?

2787
02:26:47,360 --> 02:26:49,920
Speaker 4: The song is that? The song is this? I think

2788
02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:52,360
Speaker 4: it's the Messengers all the way. Y'all didn't like the

2789
02:26:52,360 --> 02:26:56,760
Speaker 4: person that. Y'all wasn't room for her. Y'all expected her to,

2790
02:26:57,040 --> 02:27:01,080
Speaker 4: you know, stay where she was at. How dare you

2791
02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:04,240
Speaker 4: get a real hit record? You're supposed to be a joke.

2792
02:27:04,480 --> 02:27:05,120
Speaker 4: You can't rap.

2793
02:27:14,920 --> 02:27:19,520
Speaker 2: So are you manning the boards for the music that's

2794
02:27:19,600 --> 02:27:21,280
Speaker 2: coming from her project?

2795
02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:22,640
Speaker 1: Too? But show a lot of it.

2796
02:27:22,879 --> 02:27:26,280
Speaker 4: Oh well, we've done a lot of songs together, so

2797
02:27:26,360 --> 02:27:33,040
Speaker 4: we should expect moreing away Yeah, okay, more, always more, okay,

2798
02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:35,040
Speaker 4: because to me, it seems like you guys have a

2799
02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:36,240
Speaker 4: great work relationship.

2800
02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:41,560
Speaker 1: My dogs, my dog, Yeah, that's my dog. That's my dog.

2801
02:27:41,600 --> 02:27:42,240
Speaker 1: That's my favorite.

2802
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:48,160
Speaker 2: So oh it's your favorite, your favorite artist ever that

2803
02:27:48,280 --> 02:27:49,200
Speaker 2: you've worked with ever?

2804
02:27:50,680 --> 02:27:53,400
Speaker 1: Wow? Ever the show a you're gonna put it on

2805
02:27:53,480 --> 02:27:55,320
Speaker 1: your top five R and B singers.

2806
02:27:55,520 --> 02:27:58,240
Speaker 3: Might as well as well listen.

2807
02:27:59,840 --> 02:28:01,959
Speaker 4: I never knew what it felt like for an artist

2808
02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:06,320
Speaker 4: to embrace you with their spotlight got you. I never

2809
02:28:06,360 --> 02:28:08,200
Speaker 4: got that, you know what I mean?

2810
02:28:08,320 --> 02:28:09,560
Speaker 1: And no shade.

2811
02:28:10,520 --> 02:28:13,200
Speaker 2: But reality is what it is. Yeah, that is the

2812
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:15,360
Speaker 2: artists that have stand next to you. They say, hey,

2813
02:28:16,320 --> 02:28:18,560
Speaker 2: Jay White, J White, J White, J White, I get it.

2814
02:28:18,800 --> 02:28:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't.

2815
02:28:19,760 --> 02:28:21,879
Speaker 3: Never I've seen producers who do get that.

2816
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:24,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. She's allowed.

2817
02:28:24,400 --> 02:28:26,520
Speaker 4: I heard in front of that record, Jay White turned

2818
02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:29,039
Speaker 4: me up, Jay White, and she means, and you already

2819
02:28:29,200 --> 02:28:33,160
Speaker 4: had a tag. Yeah my problem shout out to my brother,

2820
02:28:33,959 --> 02:28:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah and problem. He always encouraged me to use that

2821
02:28:36,120 --> 02:28:39,000
Speaker 4: tag man, but she turned me up with that tag.

2822
02:28:39,120 --> 02:28:42,840
Speaker 4: But in every interview she gonna say how much she

2823
02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:44,040
Speaker 4: likes J.

2824
02:28:44,440 --> 02:28:44,760
Speaker 1: White.

2825
02:28:44,840 --> 02:28:48,120
Speaker 4: And that's given me a whole different people who didn't

2826
02:28:48,120 --> 02:28:50,119
Speaker 4: know I did bow that yellow right now.

2827
02:28:49,959 --> 02:28:52,800
Speaker 1: Today it's like, dang, Jay White, I didn't know you

2828
02:28:52,800 --> 02:28:56,200
Speaker 1: did bow that yellow? Right It's almost rediscovery.

2829
02:28:56,320 --> 02:28:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, oh and I'm talking and these people

2830
02:28:59,440 --> 02:29:00,880
Speaker 3: in our industry.

2831
02:29:01,120 --> 02:29:03,840
Speaker 1: That's wild. After what we go back to, Like I said,

2832
02:29:04,720 --> 02:29:06,119
Speaker 1: you know, you hear a new story.

2833
02:29:05,879 --> 02:29:08,960
Speaker 3: You hear I'm still getting discovered to this day.

2834
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:12,360
Speaker 4: But this song has put me up more than I

2835
02:29:12,400 --> 02:29:16,400
Speaker 4: ever have, and I'm appreciateive of our artists. You know,

2836
02:29:16,440 --> 02:29:18,160
Speaker 4: it's kind of old school in a sense. It's like,

2837
02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:20,600
Speaker 4: you know, you are thanking the producer.

2838
02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:23,879
Speaker 1: That's dope, man. I love that. It's dope man.

2839
02:29:24,040 --> 02:29:27,039
Speaker 2: And and just you know, and we we've set man,

2840
02:29:27,080 --> 02:29:30,160
Speaker 2: we've worked together, we've been in a lab. But just

2841
02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:35,520
Speaker 2: and also watching what you Fresh and Verse are doing together.

2842
02:29:35,720 --> 02:29:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, my dogs, man, it's a TV show up

2843
02:29:41,320 --> 02:29:43,400
Speaker 4: in there. Oh yeah, it's a TV show.

2844
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:46,360
Speaker 1: Definitely. I've definitely been a part of that TV show.

2845
02:29:46,440 --> 02:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Man having a great time with you.

2846
02:29:48,240 --> 02:29:49,280
Speaker 3: It's a shark tanking there.

2847
02:29:49,360 --> 02:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

2848
02:29:50,280 --> 02:29:52,039
Speaker 2: You can't weak up in that room now you brothers

2849
02:29:52,080 --> 02:29:53,560
Speaker 2: is yeah, because I've seen that too.

2850
02:29:53,720 --> 02:29:54,520
Speaker 3: Can't be we Yeah.

2851
02:29:54,560 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 1: But and I appreciate the fact that y'all all push

2852
02:29:57,040 --> 02:29:59,680
Speaker 1: each other show. It's not like, oh yeah, that's just cool,

2853
02:29:59,720 --> 02:30:02,279
Speaker 1: that's good. Good. No, it's like, no, no, this ain't great. Nigga,

2854
02:30:02,520 --> 02:30:03,439
Speaker 1: like we gotta.

2855
02:30:03,640 --> 02:30:07,400
Speaker 4: Man, I'm forty one, bro, yeah, getting no younger. We

2856
02:30:07,480 --> 02:30:10,720
Speaker 4: gotta get to it. No, it came later for you.

2857
02:30:11,080 --> 02:30:13,440
Speaker 4: It came, bro, came later for you. My first hit

2858
02:30:13,600 --> 02:30:18,200
Speaker 4: record thirty two years old, my first hit hit, Yeah, yeah,

2859
02:30:18,440 --> 02:30:22,960
Speaker 4: thirty two, so I still feel shit, what, yeah, you

2860
02:30:23,040 --> 02:30:23,720
Speaker 4: knew to the game.

2861
02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:26,119
Speaker 1: So I feel like, yeah, even.

2862
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:31,279
Speaker 4: They say unk, yeah, I'm younger, Wrench Rich Ranch, Wretch

2863
02:30:32,440 --> 02:30:33,120
Speaker 4: Rich Ranch.

2864
02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:33,920
Speaker 3: I'm all that.

2865
02:30:34,400 --> 02:30:38,000
Speaker 4: No, but but I feel like, what what tell me

2866
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:42,320
Speaker 4: if I'm wrong? What's the producer's lifetime? Like when he

2867
02:30:42,400 --> 02:30:47,280
Speaker 4: get a hot record, Like let's say a mind what

2868
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:48,240
Speaker 4: what's their lifetime?

2869
02:30:48,680 --> 02:30:48,760
Speaker 1: Like?

2870
02:30:48,879 --> 02:30:50,880
Speaker 4: Is it one to five years, one of three years,

2871
02:30:51,200 --> 02:30:54,879
Speaker 4: once a ten years? Like it's very much NFL now

2872
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:58,160
Speaker 4: for long? So you got three, you got about three? Yeah?

2873
02:30:58,240 --> 02:31:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when you haven't just to see like that,

2874
02:31:01,120 --> 02:31:05,320
Speaker 2: like once you start getting past five, close to ten

2875
02:31:05,440 --> 02:31:08,080
Speaker 2: or once you get past ten, now you now you're

2876
02:31:08,120 --> 02:31:14,720
Speaker 2: having those those Timberland Dre for real and from a

2877
02:31:14,800 --> 02:31:20,080
Speaker 2: hip hop standpoints, Mike Will, Mike Will hit Boy.

2878
02:31:20,040 --> 02:31:21,120
Speaker 3: What's what's what's what's what's what?

2879
02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:25,760
Speaker 4: Name for Saint Louis the producer Metro is Metro from

2880
02:31:25,760 --> 02:31:26,199
Speaker 4: Saint Louis.

2881
02:31:26,240 --> 02:31:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never knew. Where's trying to thart He's from Atlanta,

2882
02:31:28,000 --> 02:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Saint Louis.

2883
02:31:30,800 --> 02:31:35,320
Speaker 2: Zay like there this rarefied air to be able to

2884
02:31:35,360 --> 02:31:44,360
Speaker 2: do it a decade which you're approaching like consistently with hits. Yeah,

2885
02:31:44,400 --> 02:31:47,400
Speaker 2: like that's very rarefied air where you start talking about

2886
02:31:47,560 --> 02:31:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, incas obviously then you know, like I said,

2887
02:31:50,320 --> 02:31:52,039
Speaker 2: when you start talking about Dre and tim and it's

2888
02:31:52,040 --> 02:31:55,720
Speaker 2: like decades and decades and multiple things. But like, there's

2889
02:31:55,760 --> 02:31:59,279
Speaker 2: not many people who have lasted at a high level

2890
02:31:59,440 --> 02:32:01,480
Speaker 2: more than five it's not.

2891
02:32:02,200 --> 02:32:06,640
Speaker 1: It's not, it's not. So that should be celebrated, brother,

2892
02:32:07,440 --> 02:32:10,680
Speaker 1: And that's why you're here. This is big for me,

2893
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:14,240
Speaker 1: and you need to start doing more R and B records. Man,

2894
02:32:14,560 --> 02:32:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you need to start doing more army

2895
02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:18,600
Speaker 1: record Maybe you're hiring me to come through the ratchet stuff.

2896
02:32:18,760 --> 02:32:19,240
Speaker 1: That's cool.

2897
02:32:19,640 --> 02:32:23,640
Speaker 2: People start I love R and B, start doing more

2898
02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:26,000
Speaker 2: R and B records. I'm already gonna get cussed out

2899
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:28,160
Speaker 2: for having you here because we ain't talked about no

2900
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:29,600
Speaker 2: R and B records, But that don't matter to me

2901
02:32:29,640 --> 02:32:30,240
Speaker 2: because we're.

2902
02:32:30,040 --> 02:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Talking about here records. Sizzle. They would say that's hip hop.

2903
02:32:34,560 --> 02:32:35,280
Speaker 1: She was singing on that.

2904
02:32:35,400 --> 02:32:39,440
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm just telling you. They would say

2905
02:32:39,440 --> 02:32:42,160
Speaker 2: that's hip hop. Wow, she's singing that hook?

2906
02:32:42,879 --> 02:32:46,960
Speaker 1: What it is? What's up? It comes from? You know

2907
02:32:46,959 --> 02:32:51,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm telling you what the purists well,

2908
02:32:51,120 --> 02:32:53,000
Speaker 1: because I'd be having to deal with it because I

2909
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:54,519
Speaker 1: ain't even a purist.

2910
02:32:55,080 --> 02:32:56,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I love everything, I love

2911
02:32:56,720 --> 02:32:59,400
Speaker 2: the music right, but I know what I gotta go

2912
02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:00,840
Speaker 2: through and I know with you know what I mean?

2913
02:33:00,879 --> 02:33:02,160
Speaker 2: They be talking they ship well.

2914
02:33:02,200 --> 02:33:05,200
Speaker 1: I got ri Lennox, I work with her. I got

2915
02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:07,280
Speaker 1: two songs of Ri, I got I got a single

2916
02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:09,800
Speaker 1: coming out with her coming. I've got the name of

2917
02:33:09,879 --> 02:33:12,440
Speaker 1: So see, you can't even remember the RB since you

2918
02:33:12,480 --> 02:33:15,119
Speaker 1: better remember the goddamn RB, R and B stuff, But yeah,

2919
02:33:15,200 --> 02:33:19,400
Speaker 1: it's what I need. You go on to RB run Damn.

2920
02:33:19,720 --> 02:33:22,400
Speaker 1: My last hit was considered R and B songle I

2921
02:33:22,480 --> 02:33:25,680
Speaker 1: know last year, I know, I know, But who is

2922
02:33:25,760 --> 02:33:28,120
Speaker 1: the R and B though the purists they canna consider it?

2923
02:33:28,160 --> 02:33:28,800
Speaker 1: Who Rapp?

2924
02:33:28,959 --> 02:33:30,960
Speaker 3: Who I work with right now? He said, who should

2925
02:33:30,959 --> 02:33:31,879
Speaker 3: you work with right now?

2926
02:33:31,920 --> 02:33:32,360
Speaker 1: In R and B?

2927
02:33:32,480 --> 02:33:34,440
Speaker 2: I think he's just sign an R and B artist. Yeah,

2928
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:36,400
Speaker 2: I think you should work with an R and B

2929
02:33:36,520 --> 02:33:38,920
Speaker 2: artist for sure. You know, I think you should break

2930
02:33:38,920 --> 02:33:40,160
Speaker 2: an RB artists.

2931
02:33:42,480 --> 02:33:44,520
Speaker 4: I love R and B with your music under it,

2932
02:33:45,280 --> 02:33:47,760
Speaker 4: but that'd be any hip hop now nah. But they

2933
02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:50,480
Speaker 4: got a say you gotta say so, then don't you

2934
02:33:50,560 --> 02:33:51,840
Speaker 4: didn't sing she did.

2935
02:33:51,959 --> 02:33:54,680
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is the elements of the records.

2936
02:33:54,760 --> 02:33:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm are considered are considered hip hop, you know

2937
02:33:58,040 --> 02:34:00,119
Speaker 2: what I mean? And thirty for thirty is really like

2938
02:34:00,480 --> 02:34:02,360
Speaker 2: it's half says it's half Kendrick.

2939
02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:04,200
Speaker 1: So people are like, you know, it's a rad record.

2940
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:06,280
Speaker 1: That's a rat record for people. You know, really it's

2941
02:34:06,320 --> 02:34:08,440
Speaker 1: it's just a smash. It's at the end of the day.

2942
02:34:08,560 --> 02:34:11,480
Speaker 1: But I know what I'm gonna gett Like, you know,

2943
02:34:12,760 --> 02:34:16,039
Speaker 1: no R straight R and B. They don't even have

2944
02:34:16,040 --> 02:34:17,760
Speaker 1: to be straight R and B. But I got R

2945
02:34:17,760 --> 02:34:19,440
Speaker 1: and B songs. Man, we needed.

2946
02:34:20,920 --> 02:34:23,160
Speaker 2: We need, we need to hits. Give us the hits. Bro,

2947
02:34:23,400 --> 02:34:25,040
Speaker 2: you holding the hits only for hip hop?

2948
02:34:25,200 --> 02:34:27,480
Speaker 4: I hell no, Bro, I got R and B smashing

2949
02:34:27,520 --> 02:34:29,080
Speaker 4: on the period. They gotta cut these joints.

2950
02:34:29,080 --> 02:34:33,480
Speaker 2: Man, we're playing formulator, all right. So now now we're

2951
02:34:33,480 --> 02:34:35,120
Speaker 2: gonna get to this R and B thing. Now we're

2952
02:34:35,120 --> 02:34:38,200
Speaker 2: gonna you know, because because we know that all these

2953
02:34:38,280 --> 02:34:38,640
Speaker 2: music that.

2954
02:34:38,720 --> 02:34:40,440
Speaker 4: You're creating, it comes from the church and from R

2955
02:34:40,480 --> 02:34:42,400
Speaker 4: and B. Yeah, man, you know what I mean. It

2956
02:34:42,520 --> 02:34:45,360
Speaker 4: got the elements, Yes, most of all the songs. So

2957
02:34:45,520 --> 02:34:46,840
Speaker 4: now I need to know.

2958
02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:50,680
Speaker 1: What got you there? So you know we're gonna were

2959
02:34:50,680 --> 02:34:59,720
Speaker 1: gonna play something that the brother Tank is sent in. Yeah,

2960
02:35:00,920 --> 02:35:14,440
Speaker 1: top five, same, top five You're tough, areasing us? Are

2961
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:20,480
Speaker 1: and me songs? We got to know enough before you

2962
02:35:20,760 --> 02:35:29,160
Speaker 1: go there on this show. Your body wanted to els

2963
02:35:33,480 --> 02:35:51,920
Speaker 1: top you tp F. That was dick. Every boy is

2964
02:35:52,080 --> 02:36:02,160
Speaker 1: dick you. So as you as you heard my brother say,

2965
02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:04,600
Speaker 1: we want to know shout out to Tank.

2966
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:08,080
Speaker 2: We want to know your top five R and B

2967
02:36:08,240 --> 02:36:13,880
Speaker 2: singers and your top five R and B songs. So

2968
02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:23,840
Speaker 2: top five singers, Beyonce, Chris Brown, mm hmm, let's take

2969
02:36:23,879 --> 02:36:28,040
Speaker 2: it to I'm just gonna get you right here, Okay, Cisco,

2970
02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:29,880
Speaker 2: why is that gonna give you?

2971
02:36:29,959 --> 02:36:32,880
Speaker 3: Okay, this is incredible. I don't hear people be saying

2972
02:36:32,920 --> 02:36:33,800
Speaker 3: his name a lot man.

2973
02:36:33,959 --> 02:36:37,720
Speaker 4: That niggas incredible And this is for me, guys, and

2974
02:36:37,920 --> 02:36:41,720
Speaker 4: I gotta rounded up with Brandy.

2975
02:36:45,800 --> 02:36:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, cold five, cold five. It's a cold line up Brandy. Okay, Okay,

2976
02:36:50,360 --> 02:36:53,320
Speaker 2: So that's your top five R V singers, Top five

2977
02:36:53,560 --> 02:36:54,440
Speaker 2: R and V songs.

2978
02:36:55,920 --> 02:37:01,400
Speaker 4: Well, what's the song with Brandy? Almost doesn't count for me?

2979
02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:04,560
Speaker 4: I love that song I'm an Usher fan, man, I

2980
02:37:04,640 --> 02:37:08,640
Speaker 4: love Ushers in general. Usher, You remind me. I gotta

2981
02:37:08,680 --> 02:37:11,640
Speaker 4: go Usher again him with You make me want to

2982
02:37:11,879 --> 02:37:12,360
Speaker 4: either fun.

2983
02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:14,600
Speaker 1: You remind me and you make me want It's on

2984
02:37:14,720 --> 02:37:16,520
Speaker 1: his top five I Have for for Me. Yeah, I

2985
02:37:16,600 --> 02:37:18,920
Speaker 1: love him song. He's in one of those songs on Confessions.

2986
02:37:19,600 --> 02:37:22,400
Speaker 1: It's crazy Ship. Let's tell you how many hits he got?

2987
02:37:22,560 --> 02:37:23,080
Speaker 1: He got too many?

2988
02:37:23,680 --> 02:37:27,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm so God forgive me.

2989
02:37:27,240 --> 02:37:28,360
Speaker 1: Okay, number four? What's it?

2990
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:35,480
Speaker 4: I gotta give Michael Jackson, Man, Michael Jackson, and I'm

2991
02:37:35,520 --> 02:37:37,840
Speaker 4: gonna pick an Era because if not, Joe might hunt you.

2992
02:37:37,879 --> 02:37:44,880
Speaker 4: If yeah, no Man, Human Nature for me I love.

2993
02:37:45,160 --> 02:37:48,200
Speaker 4: I love that record and a record that makes me

2994
02:37:48,400 --> 02:37:51,119
Speaker 4: feel good. And I don't know why when the press

2995
02:37:51,160 --> 02:37:52,800
Speaker 4: came out, I just made me feel feel good. Bro,

2996
02:37:53,480 --> 02:37:55,240
Speaker 4: it was Beyonce, Man, me, myself and.

2997
02:37:55,280 --> 02:37:58,640
Speaker 1: I great record. You know the story behind Human Nature? No,

2998
02:37:58,800 --> 02:38:01,400
Speaker 1: what story of The songwriter.

2999
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:07,920
Speaker 2: Wrote a song about his daughter, a conversation he had

3000
02:38:08,000 --> 02:38:11,440
Speaker 2: with his with his small daughter about a boy at

3001
02:38:11,480 --> 02:38:14,000
Speaker 2: the playground. I think the boy like bitter or something,

3002
02:38:15,000 --> 02:38:17,280
Speaker 2: and the way he explained it to his daughter was like,

3003
02:38:17,440 --> 02:38:18,720
Speaker 2: it's it's just human nature.

3004
02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:20,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

3005
02:38:20,560 --> 02:38:24,840
Speaker 2: So the original demo is the story about that happening

3006
02:38:24,920 --> 02:38:28,440
Speaker 2: on the playground and his daughter asking him why what?

3007
02:38:28,680 --> 02:38:29,360
Speaker 1: Like why why?

3008
02:38:29,840 --> 02:38:36,440
Speaker 2: It's about telling this human nature and literally being on

3009
02:38:36,600 --> 02:38:39,400
Speaker 2: the B side of a demo tape that Quincy was

3010
02:38:39,480 --> 02:38:45,640
Speaker 2: sent what in the Yes, that's crazy. How something like

3011
02:38:45,760 --> 02:38:47,440
Speaker 2: them other songs is cool? But what about this one

3012
02:38:47,480 --> 02:38:51,360
Speaker 2: about on the B side? Yeah, the Darunding And she

3013
02:38:51,440 --> 02:38:56,000
Speaker 2: said why, yeah, why why? He says, tell him that

3014
02:38:56,320 --> 02:39:02,840
Speaker 2: is here. Oh that's crazy. Wow, that's crazy. One of

3015
02:39:02,840 --> 02:39:04,160
Speaker 2: the greatest songs ever ever.

3016
02:39:05,600 --> 02:39:09,720
Speaker 1: Why why tell him that his human nature? Why?

3017
02:39:09,879 --> 02:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Man, my daughter be telling me so many stories. I

3018
02:39:11,640 --> 02:39:14,760
Speaker 2: gotta just start writing though. Man, my daughter, my daughter

3019
02:39:14,800 --> 02:39:17,160
Speaker 2: be telling me stories. Boy, I picked her up from school.

3020
02:39:17,480 --> 02:39:20,320
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, dadd And then if you don't want

3021
02:39:20,320 --> 02:39:22,080
Speaker 2: your human nature, I need to write me in human

3022
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:23,160
Speaker 2: nature you mean.

3023
02:39:24,760 --> 02:39:24,960
Speaker 1: Thrill.

3024
02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:27,600
Speaker 2: See the difference is I wouldn't have told my daughter

3025
02:39:27,720 --> 02:39:29,440
Speaker 2: is human nation. I would have been like, let's go there.

3026
02:39:29,400 --> 02:39:31,720
Speaker 1: And get it. If we're gonna find, we're gonna find

3027
02:39:31,760 --> 02:39:32,360
Speaker 1: his daddy.

3028
02:39:33,760 --> 02:39:36,160
Speaker 2: I can't hit no kids, but I will whoop daddy's

3029
02:39:36,200 --> 02:39:39,720
Speaker 2: ass for not teaching this kid not to bite my kids.

3030
02:39:40,720 --> 02:39:41,160
Speaker 1: My daughter.

3031
02:39:41,680 --> 02:39:44,040
Speaker 2: You ain't supposed to be biting nobody in fact, so

3032
02:39:44,040 --> 02:39:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna whoop your daddy ass.

3033
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, so he could tell you, come on, man,

3034
02:39:48,560 --> 02:39:48,840
Speaker 1: So I.

3035
02:39:48,840 --> 02:39:53,160
Speaker 4: Probably wouldn't have wrote broy yours would have been against

3036
02:39:53,280 --> 02:39:54,320
Speaker 4: Why why.

3037
02:39:57,320 --> 02:40:01,119
Speaker 1: Tell him? Because of human nature? This is my human nature.

3038
02:40:02,560 --> 02:40:05,080
Speaker 1: Keep from the baby, man, I get it. Yeah, I'll

3039
02:40:05,120 --> 02:40:08,160
Speaker 1: be trying y'all out there like real man, trying not

3040
02:40:08,280 --> 02:40:11,080
Speaker 1: to be like that. Bro. Y'all just all turned, bro

3041
02:40:11,800 --> 02:40:14,000
Speaker 1: and all I skin too. No, we're not all like

3042
02:40:14,240 --> 02:40:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean everybody I've seen. It's like we turned everybody

3043
02:40:17,560 --> 02:40:19,920
Speaker 1: I've seen pretty right, though too short. It's not like

3044
02:40:21,040 --> 02:40:23,200
Speaker 1: he ain't dark either.

3045
02:40:24,600 --> 02:40:29,480
Speaker 2: Is he like pillars of yet complex ship. He's like

3046
02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:34,920
Speaker 2: the pillars of the bay Gary Bayden. Damn he even

3047
02:40:34,959 --> 02:40:37,160
Speaker 2: the baby bro Brian Shaw, Damn.

3048
02:40:37,400 --> 02:40:47,560
Speaker 1: You're right, okay, all you gotta wrapping potee bouta I

3049
02:40:47,600 --> 02:40:50,280
Speaker 1: forgot bro Quin going. Bro.

3050
02:40:50,520 --> 02:40:53,640
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just I'm you're just sitting here, all right,

3051
02:40:53,920 --> 02:40:57,760
Speaker 4: all right, all right from sorry, I'm sorry man.

3052
02:40:57,879 --> 02:41:01,600
Speaker 1: All right. So now I need you to build. Okay,

3053
02:41:01,840 --> 02:41:03,160
Speaker 1: I needed to build because you know I know you

3054
02:41:03,480 --> 02:41:06,640
Speaker 1: build the beats. I need I need you to build

3055
02:41:07,879 --> 02:41:13,800
Speaker 1: your super R and B singer, your votron. I need

3056
02:41:13,920 --> 02:41:18,200
Speaker 1: you to give me the vocals, gonna be the lead singer. Yeah,

3057
02:41:18,920 --> 02:41:27,320
Speaker 1: the stage performance, the drip, Yeah, the passion of the artist. Okay.

3058
02:41:27,640 --> 02:41:30,600
Speaker 1: And who's going to produce for this artist? Okay? So

3059
02:41:30,760 --> 02:41:33,119
Speaker 1: can you just walking down there? Okay? Can you vocals?

3060
02:41:33,400 --> 02:41:36,959
Speaker 1: Vocals is gonna be go back to the usher. Usher

3061
02:41:37,040 --> 02:41:44,520
Speaker 1: is your singer? Yeah, performance style, stage stage presence, Chris hmm,

3062
02:41:44,680 --> 02:41:47,120
Speaker 1: bad mofucker. Yeah, the drip. Who're gonna put the fly

3063
02:41:47,240 --> 02:41:52,640
Speaker 1: ship on with this artist? Is gonna wear Prince come on?

3064
02:41:52,879 --> 02:41:56,320
Speaker 1: So you got ushered Chris with the Prince fits on?

3065
02:41:56,800 --> 02:42:00,640
Speaker 2: Then then the ladies love the My mama, she loved it.

3066
02:42:00,920 --> 02:42:03,960
Speaker 2: Who has the passion? Who's gonna make you feel it?

3067
02:42:05,680 --> 02:42:08,279
Speaker 1: Nigga? So you're gonna.

3068
02:42:08,120 --> 02:42:15,000
Speaker 4: Sweat and booty out and skate and glide and his

3069
02:42:15,959 --> 02:42:18,480
Speaker 4: through the crowd. You know she kicks hers off, she does,

3070
02:42:18,600 --> 02:42:21,720
Speaker 4: but Prison never kicked his. Prince kept kept his heels on.

3071
02:42:23,120 --> 02:42:28,039
Speaker 4: Listen all right, and this hat Spantasia ever made you cry, She's.

3072
02:42:27,920 --> 02:42:28,440
Speaker 1: Made me cry.

3073
02:42:28,760 --> 02:42:33,959
Speaker 2: Fantasia is different, bro, She her passion forms different. When

3074
02:42:34,040 --> 02:42:38,680
Speaker 2: her in tank went on that tour her Tank and

3075
02:42:38,879 --> 02:42:45,640
Speaker 2: Robin thick bro I would be on the side of stage.

3076
02:42:45,720 --> 02:42:47,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes I just go in the crowd and I just

3077
02:42:47,400 --> 02:42:49,440
Speaker 2: sit there and I'm like, I got to just watch

3078
02:42:49,480 --> 02:42:51,720
Speaker 2: her appreciate the people.

3079
02:42:51,879 --> 02:42:58,000
Speaker 4: She's amazing, She's she's anointed. Yes, she she anointed at

3080
02:42:58,040 --> 02:43:00,680
Speaker 4: what she do. I can't wait till she com Miss too,

3081
02:43:01,800 --> 02:43:06,120
Speaker 4: a full blown gospel project. That's gonna be incredible. I

3082
02:43:06,160 --> 02:43:07,959
Speaker 4: can't wait you if she gets that's gonna be incredible.

3083
02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:13,000
Speaker 4: The Leandrew is on there, and then Andrew.

3084
02:43:13,040 --> 02:43:15,480
Speaker 1: I just seen Leandrew at the BT Awards. I love.

3085
02:43:15,879 --> 02:43:22,040
Speaker 4: She's anointed. Amazing, that's what I want to see. Okay,

3086
02:43:22,720 --> 02:43:24,119
Speaker 4: who's going to produce for this artist?

3087
02:43:25,920 --> 02:43:27,080
Speaker 1: Come on, dark Child?

3088
02:43:27,320 --> 02:43:30,840
Speaker 3: Come on now, got to he understands.

3089
02:43:32,160 --> 02:43:35,320
Speaker 2: Shout out the Dark Child, the Dark Child Man, and

3090
02:43:35,600 --> 02:43:38,600
Speaker 2: shout out to the Tree of dark Child.

3091
02:43:39,200 --> 02:43:43,720
Speaker 1: And that's the producers. Can you have come from Dark Child?

3092
02:43:44,000 --> 02:43:44,560
Speaker 1: Help me with that.

3093
02:43:45,720 --> 02:43:57,880
Speaker 2: Harvey Mason, Junior, Tommy Brown, d Mile, Victoria Monet And

3094
02:43:58,000 --> 02:43:59,360
Speaker 2: those are just the ones that I can think of

3095
02:43:59,400 --> 02:44:03,720
Speaker 2: because you put me on the spot. Just now, Nigga

3096
02:44:04,400 --> 02:44:08,640
Speaker 2: Monster that tree because ultimately, then the Underdog Tree is

3097
02:44:08,720 --> 02:44:09,600
Speaker 2: part of his tree.

3098
02:44:13,360 --> 02:44:15,320
Speaker 1: I ain't never work with him, but I'm part of

3099
02:44:15,400 --> 02:44:17,240
Speaker 1: the tree. It's crazy.

3100
02:44:19,400 --> 02:44:24,640
Speaker 4: That's why I said Rodney. Rodney is special one on

3101
02:44:24,720 --> 02:44:31,000
Speaker 4: one one from the tree of Teddy Riley, which is

3102
02:44:31,879 --> 02:44:32,560
Speaker 4: for real.

3103
02:44:32,920 --> 02:44:41,200
Speaker 3: Which is God? Chad, Bro, I'm so cold for this

3104
02:44:41,320 --> 02:44:43,119
Speaker 3: cond twitsh my Riddy.

3105
02:44:42,959 --> 02:44:48,680
Speaker 1: Drakings when I'm sorry who he switched to? Dat? Man? Oh,

3106
02:44:49,720 --> 02:44:56,240
Speaker 1: that's my vibe. I'm sorry, there's no argument when Davanta's name.

3107
02:44:56,240 --> 02:44:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. And Rodney, I love you too, Bro. I'm

3108
02:44:58,840 --> 02:44:59,520
Speaker 3: a big fan of you.

3109
02:44:59,640 --> 02:45:01,959
Speaker 1: Bro. His tree, the Davante tree.

3110
02:45:02,120 --> 02:45:03,920
Speaker 4: Now that's because you have me, Because you got me,

3111
02:45:04,440 --> 02:45:07,280
Speaker 4: I want to say, now the tree changes thing. Yes,

3112
02:45:08,400 --> 02:45:10,080
Speaker 4: the Davante.

3113
02:45:11,440 --> 02:45:22,160
Speaker 1: Temper jes static, that's my viobe geniu one, that's my vibe. Player.

3114
02:45:22,640 --> 02:45:34,840
Speaker 1: Come on, cheers to you, Hey, che staty. I told

3115
02:45:34,879 --> 02:45:39,920
Speaker 1: you how he should be on R and B money. Hey. No,

3116
02:45:40,040 --> 02:45:42,400
Speaker 1: we can't harmonize though. But I wasn't gonna jump in

3117
02:45:42,440 --> 02:45:46,560
Speaker 1: there because he was gonna go somewhere. I started seeing.

3118
02:45:46,720 --> 02:45:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you went alone, let yes to you, Jay,

3119
02:45:51,040 --> 02:45:55,080
Speaker 1: stay on top. Bro. All right, man, we got we

3120
02:45:55,200 --> 02:45:57,280
Speaker 1: got one more thing before I let you out of Okay,

3121
02:45:58,480 --> 02:46:04,400
Speaker 1: we got one more thing. I ain't saying no niature,

3122
02:46:04,879 --> 02:46:09,039
Speaker 1: ain't saying no names, saying no names, saying no name.

3123
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:26,959
Speaker 1: What you need don't say she s My favorite part

3124
02:46:26,959 --> 02:46:28,600
Speaker 1: of the show when when what is Tank doing a

3125
02:46:28,640 --> 02:46:34,120
Speaker 1: gospel album? That's a good question, Tank, Bro, it's a

3126
02:46:34,160 --> 02:46:37,560
Speaker 1: good question. Let me doing. You're gonna, You're gonna. That's

3127
02:46:37,600 --> 02:46:39,600
Speaker 1: why we won't produce it. That's where I want Tank, Bro.

3128
02:46:39,720 --> 02:46:41,520
Speaker 4: You know I've done a gospel album, though I'm sure

3129
02:46:41,560 --> 02:46:43,800
Speaker 4: you have. Yeah, Man, I asked you when number one.

3130
02:46:43,879 --> 02:46:44,240
Speaker 1: I know you.

3131
02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:46,840
Speaker 4: I know you be in there in the gospel world

3132
02:46:46,959 --> 02:46:49,199
Speaker 4: number one. Bro, Yeah, I know you be in that world.

3133
02:46:49,600 --> 02:46:51,920
Speaker 4: All the waited, yes sir, Yes, all the way turned up.

3134
02:46:52,040 --> 02:46:54,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but we got a very important part of

3135
02:46:54,040 --> 02:46:56,960
Speaker 2: the show. Yes sir, when you tell us the story

3136
02:46:58,520 --> 02:47:02,640
Speaker 2: funny or funked up? Are funny and fucked up?

3137
02:47:03,400 --> 02:47:07,520
Speaker 1: The only rude to the game is Jay White can't

3138
02:47:07,720 --> 02:47:13,120
Speaker 1: say no name. I can't spend that damn like that

3139
02:47:13,640 --> 02:47:14,280
Speaker 1: spent it. Bro.

3140
02:47:14,959 --> 02:47:19,120
Speaker 4: There's this artist man that I was working with, and

3141
02:47:19,280 --> 02:47:23,440
Speaker 4: we got a good connection for the most part, and.

3142
02:47:25,080 --> 02:47:26,119
Speaker 1: I literally.

3143
02:47:27,480 --> 02:47:31,480
Speaker 4: Business person has a really bad case of demo artists

3144
02:47:32,480 --> 02:47:36,680
Speaker 4: like probably some of the worst demodists I've ever seen

3145
02:47:36,760 --> 02:47:37,280
Speaker 4: in my life.

3146
02:47:37,480 --> 02:47:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it got so bad.

3147
02:47:41,240 --> 02:47:43,560
Speaker 4: So it's like, listen, I can't send you the songs

3148
02:47:43,560 --> 02:47:48,200
Speaker 4: anymore because I got to finish doing my part right.

3149
02:47:48,879 --> 02:47:52,160
Speaker 4: They said, no, no, no, it's all good. The room

3150
02:47:52,280 --> 02:47:57,640
Speaker 4: had the suits in there, it had the writers in there,

3151
02:47:57,800 --> 02:47:58,360
Speaker 4: other whatever.

3152
02:47:58,480 --> 02:48:01,959
Speaker 1: It was a full room. The camera men were in there.

3153
02:48:02,560 --> 02:48:07,080
Speaker 4: And I said, hey, if I give you a bounce

3154
02:48:07,200 --> 02:48:12,320
Speaker 4: of this song, you got to promise me that I

3155
02:48:12,400 --> 02:48:14,600
Speaker 4: can do my job and I can do what I do.

3156
02:48:16,000 --> 02:48:17,880
Speaker 1: And they said no, it's okay, I got you.

3157
02:48:18,959 --> 02:48:21,840
Speaker 3: It's all good. I said, back on hand bouncing the song.

3158
02:48:22,080 --> 02:48:25,480
Speaker 4: Let let them have it. I land back home and Dallas.

3159
02:48:25,560 --> 02:48:29,200
Speaker 4: I get a call from their manager and said, hey,

3160
02:48:30,560 --> 02:48:32,360
Speaker 4: they said can can No?

3161
02:48:32,440 --> 02:48:33,600
Speaker 1: No? I told him.

3162
02:48:33,640 --> 02:48:36,040
Speaker 4: I said if no, I said, if you do this,

3163
02:48:36,600 --> 02:48:40,360
Speaker 4: just know that I won't talk to you no more. Literally,

3164
02:48:42,680 --> 02:48:43,359
Speaker 4: they did.

3165
02:48:43,240 --> 02:48:48,880
Speaker 1: That to me. They they got demitis, okay, okay, and

3166
02:48:48,959 --> 02:48:51,400
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let me do my job. And I haven't

3167
02:48:51,440 --> 02:48:54,960
Speaker 1: talked with them no more since. So they was like listen,

3168
02:48:55,879 --> 02:48:58,600
Speaker 1: so that so okay. So did this song come out

3169
02:48:58,720 --> 02:49:02,440
Speaker 1: that way? Yeah? But you never touching the song again.

3170
02:49:02,480 --> 02:49:06,760
Speaker 3: It came out as a two track bounce that bouncing

3171
02:49:06,879 --> 02:49:08,039
Speaker 3: the computer that never.

3172
02:49:08,000 --> 02:49:10,560
Speaker 4: Got touched on. Nothing like that, no mix, no masters,

3173
02:49:10,680 --> 02:49:14,240
Speaker 4: no nothing. They wanted a house to the world, to

3174
02:49:14,320 --> 02:49:18,520
Speaker 4: the world. They mastered that, and to me, that was

3175
02:49:18,560 --> 02:49:21,840
Speaker 4: fucked up because they didn't let me do my job.

3176
02:49:21,879 --> 02:49:26,800
Speaker 1: And they lied to the people. Insane and that's your

3177
02:49:26,879 --> 02:49:29,440
Speaker 1: record as much as it's theirs. Yeah, yeah, so.

3178
02:49:29,520 --> 02:49:31,440
Speaker 4: That's my fucked up thing. I don't I I don't

3179
02:49:31,440 --> 02:49:33,199
Speaker 4: re gotta lot fucked those stories because everybody cool.

3180
02:49:33,080 --> 02:49:35,720
Speaker 1: With me for the most part. But was the song

3181
02:49:35,760 --> 02:49:36,080
Speaker 1: a hit.

3182
02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:40,000
Speaker 3: And they'll put some money behind it? I think so,

3183
02:49:40,840 --> 02:49:45,280
Speaker 3: But no, it wasn't a hit. You gotta let the producer.

3184
02:49:46,160 --> 02:49:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta us work man.

3185
02:49:48,640 --> 02:49:50,400
Speaker 4: But it was really fucked up because I really liked

3186
02:49:50,440 --> 02:49:53,520
Speaker 4: that person. But I got stick to my word. You

3187
02:49:53,640 --> 02:49:56,720
Speaker 4: have not spoken to them since. No, I mean, listen,

3188
02:49:56,720 --> 02:49:57,680
Speaker 4: all we got is our work.

3189
02:49:57,640 --> 02:49:59,920
Speaker 3: And won't because I was dead ass serious.

3190
02:50:00,240 --> 02:50:02,560
Speaker 1: So that's the next one. So it's a will and

3191
02:50:03,000 --> 02:50:04,080
Speaker 1: is a won.

3192
02:50:05,959 --> 02:50:07,879
Speaker 3: I'll be watching too much Dean and Adrian Brennan.

3193
02:50:07,920 --> 02:50:10,120
Speaker 1: Bro they be doing that. That's I don't watch it.

3194
02:50:10,520 --> 02:50:12,960
Speaker 3: I'm I'm motivated. Bro, That's why I'm in that gym now.

3195
02:50:13,080 --> 02:50:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm trying one only see clips. I'm trying to give

3196
02:50:15,800 --> 02:50:17,520
Speaker 1: it is right here, my boy.

3197
02:50:17,920 --> 02:50:19,160
Speaker 3: You almost out of here though?

3198
02:50:20,320 --> 02:50:22,440
Speaker 1: Are you talking to you? In fact, every day I do,

3199
02:50:23,520 --> 02:50:25,960
Speaker 1: I'll be like you, I cuss it out all that,

3200
02:50:26,800 --> 02:50:28,040
Speaker 1: I cust it off. Yeah.

3201
02:50:28,160 --> 02:50:31,160
Speaker 4: When I look at the mirror, I'll be like, bitch

3202
02:50:33,520 --> 02:50:35,800
Speaker 4: the a every every morning.

3203
02:50:35,840 --> 02:50:42,320
Speaker 3: What you're looking at? And I work hard? Yeah, I'm working.

3204
02:50:42,360 --> 02:50:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm working too. I respect it. Bro. Do you see

3205
02:50:44,400 --> 02:50:46,840
Speaker 1: me losing a little way though? I do? Oh, I

3206
02:50:46,959 --> 02:50:49,440
Speaker 1: do no count days.

3207
02:50:49,600 --> 02:50:53,000
Speaker 2: And I've been in the studio with you and I've

3208
02:50:53,120 --> 02:50:58,280
Speaker 2: seen me pick and oh how are you eating? And

3209
02:50:58,360 --> 02:50:58,920
Speaker 2: what's in there?

3210
02:50:59,000 --> 02:51:00,320
Speaker 1: You see it? Yeah? Yeah?

3211
02:51:00,800 --> 02:51:03,480
Speaker 3: Do you know what the doctor said. I had to

3212
02:51:03,520 --> 02:51:05,320
Speaker 3: get on that or I was gonna be out of that.

3213
02:51:06,360 --> 02:51:09,320
Speaker 3: The doctor. I went to a doctor. Go to the doctor.

3214
02:51:09,360 --> 02:51:11,480
Speaker 1: People, please, please go to the doctor.

3215
02:51:12,040 --> 02:51:18,680
Speaker 4: Go to the doctor. I had to change my diet immediately. Yeah, immediately.

3216
02:51:20,240 --> 02:51:22,800
Speaker 4: I'm glad you've made this change. Bro, got to we

3217
02:51:22,920 --> 02:51:25,320
Speaker 4: need you here. I gotta be here and we need

3218
02:51:25,400 --> 02:51:27,560
Speaker 4: this music. And just you as a person, bro, like you,

3219
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:30,160
Speaker 4: just you're a good dude. You're a good dude.

3220
02:51:30,160 --> 02:51:32,400
Speaker 3: Man, Hey Man, thank you so much. Bro, and it's

3221
02:51:32,520 --> 02:51:33,199
Speaker 3: on camera.

3222
02:51:33,240 --> 02:51:33,360
Speaker 1: Bro.

3223
02:51:33,600 --> 02:51:37,440
Speaker 4: Thank you man for even this opportunity for a kid

3224
02:51:37,680 --> 02:51:39,480
Speaker 4: to come from where I come from, to be sitting

3225
02:51:39,560 --> 02:51:43,880
Speaker 4: here and having real life industry and real life conversations.

3226
02:51:43,920 --> 02:51:45,039
Speaker 1: This is a big deal for me. Bro.

3227
02:51:45,200 --> 02:51:47,240
Speaker 4: This is huge, Like this is R and B money, Bro,

3228
02:51:47,440 --> 02:51:50,520
Speaker 4: Like you know who sat down and talked to you

3229
02:51:50,920 --> 02:51:53,840
Speaker 4: and you and ain't Bro what the hell?

3230
02:51:54,400 --> 02:51:57,760
Speaker 1: And y'all got little old me that like.

3231
02:51:57,879 --> 02:52:00,280
Speaker 4: I still feel like that, like wow, Bro, and I

3232
02:52:00,360 --> 02:52:03,840
Speaker 4: thank you for the off conversations just everything.

3233
02:52:03,920 --> 02:52:06,240
Speaker 3: But y'all don't know this man. He's one of the

3234
02:52:06,320 --> 02:52:10,920
Speaker 3: most keep it real I ever met in my life.

3235
02:52:11,320 --> 02:52:13,680
Speaker 4: He gonna tell you when you're wrong, when you're right,

3236
02:52:14,280 --> 02:52:16,240
Speaker 4: he gonna help correct it because he don't want to

3237
02:52:16,280 --> 02:52:19,080
Speaker 4: see you feil And Bro, I really appreciate you so much.

3238
02:52:19,200 --> 02:52:19,320
Speaker 1: Man.

3239
02:52:19,400 --> 02:52:24,560
Speaker 4: You're one of the few genuine brothers in this game. Bro,

3240
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:27,400
Speaker 4: and I really appreciate you so much from the bottom.

3241
02:52:27,120 --> 02:52:27,720
Speaker 1: Of my heart. Man.

3242
02:52:27,920 --> 02:52:30,800
Speaker 2: Now, absolutely seriously, thank you so much, love Bro for

3243
02:52:30,879 --> 02:52:36,720
Speaker 2: real man, and I appreciate you listening because everybody don't

3244
02:52:36,760 --> 02:52:42,600
Speaker 2: listen and the people that don't listen. I stopped talking. Look,

3245
02:52:42,640 --> 02:52:44,879
Speaker 2: you told me something yesterday. I've been on it since

3246
02:52:45,760 --> 02:52:46,240
Speaker 2: since then.

3247
02:52:46,760 --> 02:52:49,560
Speaker 4: I've been on it like literally you said, you say today,

3248
02:52:49,600 --> 02:52:52,440
Speaker 4: I've been on it. I have been on it, bro,

3249
02:52:53,000 --> 02:52:56,800
Speaker 4: literally been on it, I said. He said that cool. Bro,

3250
02:52:56,920 --> 02:52:58,560
Speaker 4: You've been in this game longer than most.

3251
02:52:58,680 --> 02:53:02,320
Speaker 1: Bro. What the hell? I know you you know something

3252
02:53:02,320 --> 02:53:04,840
Speaker 1: way longer than me, and you know some way more

3253
02:53:04,920 --> 02:53:08,680
Speaker 1: than me. So take heed. The best leaders are the

3254
02:53:08,680 --> 02:53:09,720
Speaker 1: best listeners.

3255
02:53:11,320 --> 02:53:14,680
Speaker 2: Hey, Man, Like I said, if if I try to,

3256
02:53:14,879 --> 02:53:17,039
Speaker 2: if I try to give you what I can see

3257
02:53:17,240 --> 02:53:20,240
Speaker 2: or what you know, some insight, I would lend the

3258
02:53:20,320 --> 02:53:21,240
Speaker 2: hand as much as I can.

3259
02:53:21,400 --> 02:53:24,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to, but I want to, But you

3260
02:53:24,160 --> 02:53:25,880
Speaker 1: want to. I want to make me man, I want to.

3261
02:53:25,920 --> 02:53:28,480
Speaker 2: I want to see people be successful, and I don't

3262
02:53:28,560 --> 02:53:30,000
Speaker 2: like to see people hit their head.

3263
02:53:30,240 --> 02:53:31,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm not that type of person. Oh you got

3264
02:53:32,000 --> 02:53:32,560
Speaker 1: to learn on yall.

3265
02:53:32,600 --> 02:53:35,520
Speaker 2: No, no, man, if I've experienced it and I've seen

3266
02:53:35,560 --> 02:53:37,280
Speaker 2: it and maybe I hit my head, I want to

3267
02:53:37,320 --> 02:53:37,720
Speaker 2: tell you that.

3268
02:53:37,840 --> 02:53:40,200
Speaker 1: Hey, when you get to this point, you might need

3269
02:53:40,240 --> 02:53:40,600
Speaker 1: to turn.

3270
02:53:41,720 --> 02:53:45,720
Speaker 4: You know, you need something enough credit right now you

3271
02:53:45,840 --> 02:53:47,600
Speaker 4: could have let me crash and burn it today.

3272
02:53:49,080 --> 02:53:52,320
Speaker 1: You could have. You really could let me just run

3273
02:53:52,360 --> 02:53:55,520
Speaker 1: into a wall. You could have. I ain't gonna let

3274
02:53:55,520 --> 02:54:01,000
Speaker 1: that happen, but you really could have. That's the people, man. Yeah, absolutely,

3275
02:54:01,040 --> 02:54:03,800
Speaker 1: thank you, bro. No, absolutely my pleasure, but thank you

3276
02:54:03,920 --> 02:54:04,680
Speaker 1: for being here. Man.

3277
02:54:05,000 --> 02:54:08,800
Speaker 2: Listen, this has been another amazing episode where I get

3278
02:54:08,879 --> 02:54:10,800
Speaker 2: to really hang out with the real people who do

3279
02:54:10,959 --> 02:54:14,040
Speaker 2: it and who make this thing happen and who have

3280
02:54:15,360 --> 02:54:20,840
Speaker 2: mega man mega smashes hold on becoming super producers.

3281
02:54:21,040 --> 02:54:25,160
Speaker 4: Wait, Paul, I'm sorry, y'all right now though, and don't lie.

3282
02:54:25,840 --> 02:54:29,439
Speaker 4: And then I'm looking to theos Peel deals. Piel, I'm sorry.

3283
02:54:31,280 --> 02:54:33,400
Speaker 1: You're because I'm a producer bro.

3284
02:54:35,360 --> 02:54:39,720
Speaker 4: Of twenty twenty to twenty twenty six. Right now, give

3285
02:54:39,760 --> 02:54:41,840
Speaker 4: me your top five producers. It don't got to be

3286
02:54:41,920 --> 02:54:44,080
Speaker 4: me either. I'm just saying, give me your top five

3287
02:54:44,160 --> 02:54:46,720
Speaker 4: man in the last five years. Five years, man, come on,

3288
02:54:48,480 --> 02:54:50,240
Speaker 4: in the last five years.

3289
02:54:52,600 --> 02:54:52,840
Speaker 1: Huh.

3290
02:54:53,000 --> 02:54:55,440
Speaker 2: That's a good one, look at it, I got, y'all.

3291
02:54:56,000 --> 02:54:57,840
Speaker 2: That's a really good one. That's a really good one

3292
02:54:57,879 --> 02:55:01,880
Speaker 2: of the last five years. London the question London on

3293
02:55:01,920 --> 02:55:04,280
Speaker 2: the track is in there for me? Definitely, London on

3294
02:55:04,360 --> 02:55:07,840
Speaker 2: the Track is out wonder like that that guy is incredible.

3295
02:55:08,080 --> 02:55:12,000
Speaker 2: I've only met him once. Really cool dude, good like that,

3296
02:55:12,160 --> 02:55:14,200
Speaker 2: but like incredible, incredible.

3297
02:55:14,520 --> 02:55:16,520
Speaker 1: Jay White is in there for sure for me. I mean,

3298
02:55:16,920 --> 02:55:19,800
Speaker 1: you don't got to be there. No, absolutely, bro, what

3299
02:55:19,920 --> 02:55:23,280
Speaker 1: you've done in these these years is incredible. I come on, bro, Like,

3300
02:55:23,600 --> 02:55:29,960
Speaker 1: how could I not mention you? Wow? Hit maker but

3301
02:55:30,160 --> 02:55:35,600
Speaker 1: show maker. My brother Baker is absolutely in there.

3302
02:55:35,720 --> 02:55:37,119
Speaker 3: He's one of the most consistent, by the way.

3303
02:55:37,280 --> 02:55:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3304
02:55:38,640 --> 02:55:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to me, you know, he may not be

3305
02:55:41,400 --> 02:55:44,400
Speaker 2: in there making all the beats as a beat maker,

3306
02:55:44,480 --> 02:55:50,840
Speaker 2: but who who James Frontleroy. Oh, I'm never leaving James

3307
02:55:50,879 --> 02:55:54,720
Speaker 2: fron Larroy out of any music making conversation.

3308
02:55:55,000 --> 02:55:55,760
Speaker 1: James, you know what.

3309
02:55:55,760 --> 02:55:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Cause some people, oh he's the songwriter. No, no, no, no,

3310
02:55:58,320 --> 02:56:01,040
Speaker 2: James fol Roy is more yeah than that.

3311
02:56:01,760 --> 02:56:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3312
02:56:02,320 --> 02:56:05,360
Speaker 2: And and just off the top of my head, dream

3313
02:56:06,440 --> 02:56:11,280
Speaker 2: dream beyond, Like, come on, bro, but he that what

3314
02:56:11,520 --> 02:56:12,600
Speaker 2: him and Beyonce you do?

3315
02:56:12,840 --> 02:56:17,560
Speaker 1: Bro? You can't say nothing is I can't say no. Damn.

3316
02:56:17,560 --> 02:56:20,800
Speaker 1: They're unexplainable. Yeah, I know. Yeah, they're like, oh, okay,

3317
02:56:20,879 --> 02:56:23,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna make these records today and they're gonna be hits.

3318
02:56:23,480 --> 02:56:27,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna make that we're doing country today, we're doing okay,

3319
02:56:27,160 --> 02:56:31,120
Speaker 2: now we're back in the hood another hits. Yeah, so

3320
02:56:31,360 --> 02:56:33,320
Speaker 2: that would be my five off the top of my head.

3321
02:56:34,640 --> 02:56:36,080
Speaker 2: That would be my five off the top of my head.

3322
02:56:36,080 --> 02:56:36,879
Speaker 2: I'm sure i'm'na be like.

3323
02:56:37,440 --> 02:56:41,360
Speaker 1: Ah but you bro, Yeah, to have me in there,

3324
02:56:41,520 --> 02:56:43,959
Speaker 1: thank you? Not you in there? For sure, I would

3325
02:56:43,959 --> 02:56:46,520
Speaker 1: have my own. Now you're not you're not playing besides me,

3326
02:56:46,879 --> 02:56:49,480
Speaker 1: but anyway you're not playing. But that for me from

3327
02:56:49,560 --> 02:56:54,680
Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty to twenty twenty five, yeah, bro, yeah,

3328
02:56:54,959 --> 02:56:58,480
Speaker 1: but then you got Metro. Yeah, man, I'm all messed up,

3329
02:56:58,520 --> 02:57:02,400
Speaker 1: I know, bro. Yeah stick yeah, Bro, that's the biggest record.

3330
02:57:04,320 --> 02:57:07,120
Speaker 3: Bro, man Mustard, Yeah you know.

3331
02:57:07,200 --> 02:57:09,320
Speaker 2: And then you still got the Bennie Blancos and the

3332
02:57:09,400 --> 02:57:12,200
Speaker 2: Doctor Luke's and the bro Max Martins and yeah, tough

3333
02:57:12,280 --> 02:57:13,160
Speaker 2: and it's tough.

3334
02:57:13,480 --> 02:57:17,320
Speaker 1: It's tough. How about you can can y'all do aline

3335
02:57:17,440 --> 02:57:20,480
Speaker 1: like a what you what you want? Man? What? What

3336
02:57:21,000 --> 02:57:24,280
Speaker 1: like a playoff bracket? The playoff bracket? Yeah, r and

3337
02:57:24,400 --> 02:57:26,400
Speaker 1: B money. I've been trying to stay out of the bush.

3338
02:57:27,720 --> 02:57:30,120
Speaker 2: Because because when we started doing playoff practice, somebody got

3339
02:57:30,240 --> 02:57:31,080
Speaker 2: knocked somebody else off.

3340
02:57:31,120 --> 02:57:34,360
Speaker 4: So me personally, it's a football bracket. I got you

3341
02:57:34,480 --> 02:57:37,320
Speaker 4: for the football season. I got you got thirty you

3342
02:57:37,400 --> 02:57:40,640
Speaker 4: got thirty two names, okay, and you let the fans

3343
02:57:40,680 --> 02:57:40,960
Speaker 4: pick it.

3344
02:57:41,120 --> 02:57:45,280
Speaker 1: That's all, y'all. These are all your peoples, and you

3345
02:57:45,400 --> 02:57:47,280
Speaker 1: just put You know what I'm saying. And I know

3346
02:57:47,360 --> 02:57:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting some people, but out of thirty two, you're

3347
02:57:50,800 --> 02:57:55,440
Speaker 1: not gonna forget. Yeah, out of thirty two. And as

3348
02:57:55,480 --> 02:57:56,240
Speaker 1: a super Bowl.

3349
02:57:59,360 --> 02:58:04,080
Speaker 4: Saw for real, thank you justin what he's done this year,

3350
02:58:04,840 --> 02:58:07,560
Speaker 4: this this will be fair in his last year with

3351
02:58:08,080 --> 02:58:13,240
Speaker 4: the Clips album, with t I record and now that

3352
02:58:13,520 --> 02:58:15,039
Speaker 4: little Baby record.

3353
02:58:15,280 --> 02:58:21,959
Speaker 1: Dead Fresh is miss rocket Ship missile. He's alien.

3354
02:58:22,520 --> 02:58:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah he's alien. Yeah I'm tweaking, but yeah, he's alien.

3355
02:58:25,640 --> 02:58:27,000
Speaker 2: I said, I think I named ten at.

3356
02:58:26,959 --> 02:58:29,200
Speaker 1: This point, but he's alien. Love him.

3357
02:58:29,879 --> 02:58:34,080
Speaker 2: So I'm Jay Valentine. This is Jay White, and you

3358
02:58:34,280 --> 02:58:36,640
Speaker 2: tuned into the R and B Money Podcast.

3359
02:58:36,920 --> 02:58:37,640
Speaker 1: I see y'all next