Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today, on the bright side, Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day is just around the corner, y'all. An actress Jordana
Speaker 1: Brewster is here to get us in the mood. The
Speaker 1: Fast and Furious star talks behind the scenes details from
Speaker 1: the latest Fast movie, her own swoon worthy love story,
Speaker 1: plus her new murderous brom com, Hard Eyes, which is
Speaker 1: out tomorrow.
Speaker 2: A murderous rom com feels like my love life. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's Thursday, February sixth I'm Danielle Robe.
Speaker 3: And I'm Simone Boyce.
Speaker 1: And this is the bright side from Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 2: See money. We have a real life action hero on
Speaker 2: today's show. Jordana Brewster has been lighting up the screen
Speaker 2: in the Fast and Furious movies for over twenty years.
Speaker 2: We all know her as Mia Toretto, the younger sister
Speaker 2: of Vin Diesel's Dominic Toretto and the wife of the
Speaker 2: late Paul Walker's character Brian O'Connor.
Speaker 3: These movies are huge.
Speaker 1: That's honestly kind of an understatement, because collectively the ten
Speaker 1: installments have earned more than seven billion dollars at the
Speaker 1: global box office. And the big news is that a
Speaker 1: new movie is in the works.
Speaker 2: The hype is so real. These movies made me interested
Speaker 2: in cars, right Like. There have been tons of headlines
Speaker 2: coming out about the newest Fast movie, in particular the
Speaker 2: return of Dwayne the Rock Johnson who stepped away in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, so we had to ask her about that,
Speaker 2: oh for sure.
Speaker 1: And this weekend, Jordiana's out with a brand new movie
Speaker 1: called Hard Eyes. It's kind of this like genre bending
Speaker 1: horror film that has rom com sensibilities.
Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of us don't put Valentine's Day and
Speaker 2: horror movie together, but I have to be honest, dating
Speaker 2: is very scary.
Speaker 3: This fits. Okay, you have to say more.
Speaker 1: And also I'm dying to know if you have any
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day horror stories. You know, my love life is
Speaker 1: very stable and boring, so.
Speaker 3: What a dream goals? Please literally share with me. Okay.
Speaker 2: The worst part is that I've had more bad Valentine's
Speaker 2: Days than good Valentine's Days. You know, it's just there's
Speaker 2: high expectations. It rarely turns out the way you want
Speaker 2: it to. But probably the funniest one I've had was
Speaker 2: in college. I was a sophomore and this really cute
Speaker 2: senior that I had been so into for like a
Speaker 2: year and a half finally asked me out. And in college,
Speaker 2: you don't really go on dates, like you either meet
Speaker 2: up at the library or like on someone's couch.
Speaker 3: There's no dating.
Speaker 2: And he asked me to go to sushi at this
Speaker 2: nice at this nice restaurant in the capitol of Madison, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: And I got all dressed up, and I was so nervous,
Speaker 2: and I think he was really nervous because we were
Speaker 2: walking up the steps to the sushi restaurant and it's
Speaker 2: freezing in Madison. It's the middle of winter, right, and
Speaker 2: I guess there was ice on the steps, and he
Speaker 2: face planted onto the stairs. His whole forehead was cut.
Speaker 2: He was gushing blood and pretending like it's fine, it's fine,
Speaker 2: I'm all good, because he wanted to get to dinner.
Speaker 1: No, oh my gosh, it's not him pretending like he
Speaker 1: wasn't gushing blood.
Speaker 3: Like I was.
Speaker 2: Sitting across from him at sushi the whole time being like,
Speaker 2: do you need to have your forehead's still bleeding?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, okay, Like I feel like that
Speaker 1: could be a life threatening fall.
Speaker 2: I know he's married with kids now, so I think
Speaker 2: it turned out okay for him. But yeah, literally a
Speaker 2: horror movie Valentine's Day, gushing blood.
Speaker 1: He'll always think of you when he walks up a
Speaker 1: set of icy stairs.
Speaker 3: Mmm, so that's how he'll remember me. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully Jordana's love life isn't as scary as yours. Danielle,
Speaker 1: let's jump in Welcome to the bright Side. Jordana, thank you,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for being here. You know, before you
Speaker 1: came on, we were just talking about our own Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day horror stories in honor of your new.
Speaker 3: Film Hard Eyes.
Speaker 1: Do you have any Valentine's Day or just dating like
Speaker 1: true like horror stories.
Speaker 4: I guess my horror story would be I went to
Speaker 4: a movie and it was like a first date, and
Speaker 4: he chose Hotel Rwanda, huh, and we just sat there.
Speaker 4: The tone was off. There was nothing romantic or fun
Speaker 4: about it, clearly, and then he just like walked to
Speaker 4: his car in silence, didn't talk the entire way when
Speaker 4: we were back in the car, and then dropped me off.
Speaker 4: And so it was just massively awkward, which like if
Speaker 4: you know me, like I feel awkward all the time. Anyway,
Speaker 4: so that just like it just it was just like
Speaker 4: a giant ball of awkward myth.
Speaker 3: Wait me too, I feel very seen.
Speaker 2: Wait, I would never guess that you do not seem awkward.
Speaker 2: I've never seen you have an awkward moment ever.
Speaker 4: Oh that's really nice, but no, I do feel awkward
Speaker 4: all the time.
Speaker 1: Okay, we have to talk about your new movie, Hard Eyes.
Speaker 1: It's out this weekend, currently has a ninety two percent
Speaker 1: on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 3: Casual congratulations. That's incredible you.
Speaker 4: I keep refreshing it and check because it's like it's
Speaker 4: so validating and it makes me so happy. And I
Speaker 4: wish I could say it didn't, but it really does.
Speaker 1: So you do kind of pay attention to that stuff
Speaker 1: and it factors into your calculus.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I mean, if technology wasn't so accessible,
Speaker 4: I think I would be able to control myself. But
Speaker 4: it's right there, so it's really hard not to check.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm a victim of that for sure. I
Speaker 4: check like the comments on Daily Mail. I used to
Speaker 4: check IMDb message boards. I'm not above it.
Speaker 2: But you've been a part of so many successful films
Speaker 2: that I understand. It's like you don't want a loser
Speaker 2: on your hands when you've had so many hits.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: I think I wish I could say I was that that,
Speaker 4: that it was that healthy. I think it's more like
Speaker 4: just a little bit masochistic. I just need to know,
Speaker 4: you know. And then I think what I try to
Speaker 4: practice is if there's like ninety comments and then like
Speaker 4: five bad ones, to not give credence or too much
Speaker 4: to not magnify though. And I'm trying to teach my
Speaker 4: kids the same thing because I feel like those those
Speaker 4: are like those are the sticky ones.
Speaker 1: It's so much easier to write a negative comment, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, than it is to actually like gass somebody
Speaker 1: up and be complimentary of someone.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's hoolicy out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about this film because it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of genre bending. It's it's not a typical heartwarming
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day love story. It's more of like a slash
Speaker 1: or thriller with these rom com undertones. The tagline is
Speaker 1: no couple is safe. What makes this the perfect date
Speaker 1: night movie?
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's the perfect date night movie because
Speaker 4: if you don't like horror and you're kind of you
Speaker 4: don't you don't like being freaked out or scared, then
Speaker 4: you can lean on the comedic aspect and the chemistry
Speaker 4: between Mason and Olivia, which is so good. And there
Speaker 4: are also lots of little like links to the movies
Speaker 4: that came out in the nineties and the early two thousands,
Speaker 4: like Scream and I Know What you did last summer,
Speaker 4: And so if you enjoy like finding those easter eggs,
Speaker 4: you can do that. But on the other hand, if
Speaker 4: you do like horror, it get gets pretty gory and
Speaker 4: they're very creative with the deaths.
Speaker 2: So when I'm on an airplane, I watch one of
Speaker 2: two things, either a rom com or one of the
Speaker 2: fast films. I can't watch that enough.
Speaker 4: Oh that's so good, Thank you. Which one's your favorite.
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for the early ones, yeah, because that
Speaker 2: was like my generation. I was born in nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 2: and so that feels nostalgic almost for me. And I
Speaker 2: like seeing what LA looked like at that time.
Speaker 4: Too, totally.
Speaker 3: But they're all really good, Like there's not you know.
Speaker 4: You know, they've aged really well, they really have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what made you excited about filming a horror rom com?
Speaker 3: This is such a departure.
Speaker 4: So I've been in horror before, and horror can be
Speaker 4: really fun because it's just like it's all out there,
Speaker 4: you know, and it's very like cathartic and that you're
Speaker 4: streaming and running and and it's just it's a fun exercise.
Speaker 4: But what I loved about this one was the comedic aspect,
Speaker 4: because that's something I've been It's like, I love watching comedy.
Speaker 4: I love like my favorite shows are The Office and
Speaker 4: thirty Rock, And I love Tina Fey. I think she's
Speaker 4: a genius. And I have a very dark sense of humor.
Speaker 4: So when I saw Josh Rubin's films, I was like,
Speaker 4: this guy's really funny and quirky and and I feel
Speaker 4: like he would get me. And when we when we
Speaker 4: started talking about the project, he just he had such
Speaker 4: a vision and so I was just really really excited
Speaker 4: to get on board.
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like we do need to talk about
Speaker 1: Fast and Furious a little bit more because there's been
Speaker 1: some big news lately. We've heard that Dwayne the Rock
Speaker 1: Johnson is returning to the franchise. He appeared briefly after
Speaker 1: the credits the most recent Fast film, kind of teasing
Speaker 1: his return to the story, Gosh, what does that mean
Speaker 1: to you to have him back?
Speaker 4: I mean, Hobbes versus Dom was like one of the
Speaker 4: best showdowns. So I feel like it's really the more
Speaker 4: the merrier at this point, you know. And I love Dwayne.
Speaker 4: I respect his career and I think, I mean, soon
Speaker 4: we have to finish it out. So I feel like,
Speaker 4: so I feel like we got to go out with
Speaker 4: a bang, and he helps us do that for sure.
Speaker 2: Did filming this franchise make you fall in love with
Speaker 2: cars the way it makes me love them?
Speaker 4: Well? I grew up in New York, and so I
Speaker 4: never like, I wasn't interested in cars. I took the
Speaker 4: subway or buses everywhere, and I was always made fun of.
Speaker 4: Like Paul used to make fun of me because they
Speaker 4: he'd be super into cars and then I'd roll up
Speaker 4: in my minivan. He's like, I wasn't even a mom
Speaker 4: at the time, and I was driving like a really
Speaker 4: lame faith car. But now I appreciate that a car
Speaker 4: can be very sexy, and I do love my car.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite memory of a night out with
Speaker 1: the fast casts? Like, what's the what's the one that
Speaker 1: stands out in your mind.
Speaker 4: So people think that, you know, the shooting of the
Speaker 4: movie is the best part and like, and that's super fun.
Speaker 4: But the promoting of the film, when you're getting paid
Speaker 4: to travel the world and like get up and promote
Speaker 4: the film all day and then you blow off steam after, like,
Speaker 4: that's really the most fun. So I remember on a
Speaker 4: certain press tour, uh, Paul and I were paired off
Speaker 4: and then Vin and Michelle were going to other areas
Speaker 4: and basically we were up all night dancing in Madrid
Speaker 4: and then we had to like catch a very early
Speaker 4: flight like Amsterdam the next day, and we were all
Speaker 4: we were all hurting, and so that's that's one of
Speaker 4: that's one of my my very favorite memories. And then
Speaker 4: of course you know the fact that twenty years into
Speaker 4: this franchise, my whole Fast family showed up for my
Speaker 4: wedding like nobody said no. And that goes from like
Speaker 4: Natalie Emmanuel to Chris Bridges to Vin, who showed up
Speaker 4: like sort of in the middle of the ceremony and
Speaker 4: he was like, so was so much traffic and I
Speaker 4: was like I get it.
Speaker 3: So that mean, wait did you see him walking in like.
Speaker 4: Because he has a very distinct silhouette. So I saw
Speaker 4: walking sort of like mid vows. But it was this
Speaker 4: was perfehilarious.
Speaker 2: When you think of the legacy of this franchise, I
Speaker 2: think Paul Walker is has such a foothold in it.
Speaker 2: And I think it's so beautiful the way that all
Speaker 2: of you have celebrated him, but you in particular seemed
Speaker 2: like you had a really special bond. In the years
Speaker 2: since his passing, how has your relationship with his memory evolved?
Speaker 2: Like do you feel his presence in unexpected ways?
Speaker 4: Ever? Yeah? Always, even yesterday I was listening to there
Speaker 4: was There was one day Paul gave me this like
Speaker 4: CD back in the day of amos Lee and I
Speaker 4: would play it over and over and over again. And
Speaker 4: I was listening to it on my way to drive
Speaker 4: my son Rowan to school, and he was really quiet,
Speaker 4: which is which isn't He's just usually not a quite kid.
Speaker 4: He's usually very talkative. And I was like, Hey, do
Speaker 4: you know why I'm listening to this? And and I said,
Speaker 4: Paul gave me this, you know, many years ago, and
Speaker 4: and so it makes me think of him. So it
Speaker 4: makes me like really happy but also sad at the
Speaker 4: same time. And he just sort of like to have
Speaker 4: my eight year old who's also named after or in
Speaker 4: honor of Paul, like it just that was that was
Speaker 4: a really wonderful. So he comes up in different ways,
Speaker 4: and sometimes he's like it's his presence is very very
Speaker 4: very vivid and visceral, and sometimes it goes away and
Speaker 4: then comes back and so but he's never totally gone.
Speaker 2: You honored him at your wedding, which I thought was
Speaker 2: really cool. You drove off in the same accurate accura
Speaker 2: that you and Paul raced in the very first film,
Speaker 2: which was such a beautiful wink. How did that idea
Speaker 2: come to you?
Speaker 4: So that was my husband's doing, and I like, I
Speaker 4: fought it, and I was like, babe, I don't like
Speaker 4: because Mason has a very like cheeky sense of humor,
Speaker 4: and there weren't completely different industries, so he gets he
Speaker 4: sort of like finds this our industry like super amusing,
Speaker 4: and I'm curious about his industry. But anyway, he was like,
Speaker 4: I'm going to get the cars, and I was like, no,
Speaker 4: we're not. That's more defying. We're not doing that. And
Speaker 4: then he's like, no, no, just come on to be
Speaker 4: open to it, and then I reached out to Song
Speaker 4: who then had a friend, and before I knew it,
Speaker 4: it was all happening. And then before I knew it,
Speaker 4: there were pictures out it like it turned into this
Speaker 4: whole thing. But ultimately I'm really happy that it was
Speaker 4: a part of the world wedding.
Speaker 2: We have to take a short break, but don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back with your Dana Brewster. And we're
Speaker 2: back with your Dana Brewster.
Speaker 3: All right, Geordana.
Speaker 1: Well, this episode is coming out around Valentine's Day and
Speaker 1: you mentioned your husband, Mason, and I want to share
Speaker 1: with our listeners how the two of you met. I
Speaker 1: read your essay that you wrote for Glamour about thank you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: about how you two connected, and I just thought it
Speaker 1: was so honest and touching and sweet.
Speaker 4: It was like love slash chemistry at first sight. It
Speaker 4: was like and the fact that it happened at forty is,
Speaker 4: I think is so awesome, you know, because we expect
Speaker 4: that to happen to us in our twenties. But really,
Speaker 4: I found the love of my life at forty.
Speaker 1: I am constantly reminded of just how hard it is
Speaker 1: to start over, start over with anything you know, but
Speaker 1: particularly with love. Was it scary to open yourself up
Speaker 1: to love again or did it feel just seamless and natural.
Speaker 4: I have to say that it felt in some ways,
Speaker 4: not to disparage any relationship I had in the past,
Speaker 4: but it didn't feel like starting over. It felt like, Oh,
Speaker 4: this is what it's supposed to be. Like, That's what
Speaker 4: it felt like to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, I needs you to be real with me for
Speaker 2: a second. When I see a second marriage, the love
Speaker 2: is bursting, and I feel like the two people get
Speaker 2: to be so themselves and are fully actualized and appreciate
Speaker 2: each other, and there's like less bickering.
Speaker 3: It's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: And then I see some first marriages and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on, and partly I think it's
Speaker 2: because you're raising children. It's a different time of life,
Speaker 2: there's different stress. Do you think it's possible well to
Speaker 2: have second marriage love in a first marriage.
Speaker 4: Yes, because I think oftentimes you know, and I did
Speaker 4: this in my late twenties. I was like, Okay, marriage check, now,
Speaker 4: let's have babies check. And you don't really stop and consider, Wait,
Speaker 4: how am I going to How do I think I'm
Speaker 4: going to parent because you really as moms, we don't
Speaker 4: decide that, like our kid also dictates that. But just
Speaker 4: to understand, like, Okay, well, are you going to keep working?
Speaker 4: Am I going to keep working? Are you going to
Speaker 4: like hold space for me when I work? And how
Speaker 4: are we going to manage this? And how do you
Speaker 4: deal with stress? And how do you feel about disciplining?
Speaker 4: Like what do you think your style would be? How
Speaker 4: are you raised? I feel like these are conversations that
Speaker 4: people should have before they get married, because that can
Speaker 4: be it's really stressful. Kids are kids are the best
Speaker 4: things in the world, but they're also like massively stressful
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: So I hear a lot of people say you should
Speaker 2: have money conversations or love language conversations. I haven't heard parenting,
Speaker 2: And I think that's so brilliant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's kind of insane that we don't, don't
Speaker 4: you think? Yes? Because I think I was really surprised
Speaker 4: by like once I had my babies, like how that
Speaker 4: changed me? But then also how then I had to
Speaker 4: work with weight? How am I gonna work? And what
Speaker 4: does this mean for my identity? And it's such a
Speaker 4: massive shift and you have to have a partner supporting
Speaker 4: all of that or weighing in, or you just you
Speaker 4: want to feel like you're part of a team and
Speaker 4: that you're not doing it alone.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: What did it shift? And did it shift the roles
Speaker 2: that you choose at all?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, I had this false expectation that I was
Speaker 4: going to be the most chill like hippie. I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna only have wooden toys for my
Speaker 4: kids and it's going to be all montessory. And I
Speaker 4: just I guess because like for nine months, and it
Speaker 4: was different from me because my journey was through gestational surrogacy.
Speaker 4: But for nine months, you envision this thing and then
Speaker 4: the baby arrives and you're like, oh my god, what
Speaker 4: is happening. I don't have control over anything. And I
Speaker 4: think that was the biggest thing for me, is like
Speaker 4: I'd hit my stride in my career. I was meditating,
Speaker 4: I felt so calm, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: it's like, oh my god, this isn't. A baby is
Speaker 4: not something that completes you. A baby's something you're now.
Speaker 4: You have to just realign all your priorities, and sometimes
Speaker 4: it doesn't happen naturally, it's something you have to work at.
Speaker 4: So for me, I feel like for many years I
Speaker 4: struggled with like mom guilt, and when I was at work,
Speaker 4: I was thinking of my kids, and when I was
Speaker 4: with my kids, I was thinking of work. And so
Speaker 4: it's very hard to strike a balance. And I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm only hitting my stride now, which my kids,
Speaker 4: my kids eleven and eight. But it's like a it's
Speaker 4: a constant process. And I feel like women don't tell
Speaker 4: the truth about that often enough, and I feel like
Speaker 4: it's I'd rather hear that than here, Oh girl, like
Speaker 4: it's so easy, and you're just like, it's it's hard,
Speaker 4: and women should be honest about that, because it's the
Speaker 4: most rewarding thing ever, but it's also really really hard.
Speaker 2: Simone and I talk about this a lot because she's
Speaker 2: a mom and I'm not a mom yet.
Speaker 3: I hope to be one.
Speaker 4: How many kids do you have someone, I have two.
Speaker 3: I have a four year old and a three year old.
Speaker 3: Two boys. Boy, mom, yeah, boy, mom, it's not for
Speaker 3: the week. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4: Do they get along?
Speaker 1: They do, they do, But they also like scrap you know,
Speaker 1: they're very scrappy. They're always beating each other up. The
Speaker 1: older one cut the younger one's hair recently, so.
Speaker 3: That's cut interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was bad. Like the day before we
Speaker 1: left on a family vacation, I was like, what am
Speaker 1: I supposed to do now?
Speaker 4: Right? And I think that's I think the rules used
Speaker 4: to be a little more clear, because now I'll like,
Speaker 4: I'll I signed up for doctor Becky's newsletter, and I
Speaker 4: you that, and then I and then I you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many like however, I have to say,
Speaker 4: this book is like one of the best.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with that book. Jonathan hates
Speaker 2: amazing so good. Just for everybody, she's holding up the
Speaker 2: coddling of the American mind.
Speaker 3: It's essential reading this is.
Speaker 4: Really because it's it's also it's not like I feel
Speaker 4: like the other one, the anxious generation is a little
Speaker 4: too lofty. I'm like, I mean I went through like
Speaker 4: two days of like Okay, no more internet, no more this,
Speaker 4: no more that, And then after like three days, I
Speaker 4: was like, I can't, I can't, I can't do this, Like.
Speaker 3: Like, well, because it's no break for you, then you
Speaker 3: don't get a break.
Speaker 4: Really. Yeah, And also I felt like I was stymying
Speaker 4: Julian's social life because he's on a text chain with
Speaker 4: his buddies and and I check what he's what he's
Speaker 4: you know, texting, and I make sure that it's all appropriate.
Speaker 4: But like you can't, I don't. I don't feel like
Speaker 4: it and handicap your kids that much. But that's been
Speaker 4: the most helpful book so far, because boys are also
Speaker 4: super loud, and like I have to tell the neighbors,
Speaker 4: like guys, nothing's like, nothing crazy is going on. They
Speaker 4: just gere loud, they scream. We're a passionate family. And
Speaker 4: that's that.
Speaker 3: I like that. I'm going with passionate. That's my new narrative.
Speaker 1: It's time for another shortbreak, but we'll be right back
Speaker 1: with Jordana Brewster.
Speaker 3: And we're back with Jordana Brewster.
Speaker 1: Jordana, when I think about the things in my life
Speaker 1: that get me through tough everyday stuff, whether that's like
Speaker 1: challenges in parenting, challenges in marriage, it's my female friendships
Speaker 1: who really support me and booy me and get me through.
Speaker 1: And I know that you have a ton of friends.
Speaker 1: I can tell friendship is so important to you as well.
Speaker 1: When you think about the impact that your female friendships
Speaker 1: have had on you, especially during periods of transition.
Speaker 3: What comes to mind.
Speaker 4: My rider died Max. Like we always talk about like
Speaker 4: we're going to live in a retirement home together and
Speaker 4: like do our thing and watch movies and eat pasta.
Speaker 4: But we've been best friends since our twenties, you know,
Speaker 4: and we've seen each other through a lot, and I
Speaker 4: think having a friend where there's no agenda, there's no judgment,
Speaker 4: and you're just there for each other no matter what
Speaker 4: is super important. And I also think, I mean, I've
Speaker 4: always been a girls girl. I've always felt super comfortable
Speaker 4: with girls and haven't ever felt like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 4: we're in competition, so this is what this is going
Speaker 4: to be like, Like that's that's super foreign to me.
Speaker 4: So I trust with my whole heart, and I dive
Speaker 4: in and sometimes I overshare and and but that's just
Speaker 4: who I am.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend just came to stay with me at this
Speaker 1: hotel that I'm at right now. And this is a
Speaker 1: friend I've known for twenty years. We went to college together.
Speaker 1: She's one of my best friends. And we had all
Speaker 1: these big plans to go out, but every single night
Speaker 1: all we did was put on Old Sex and the
Speaker 1: City episodes, pause it debrief for like thirty minutes about
Speaker 1: whatever it was that Carrie just did whatever messy thing
Speaker 1: that she just did, and then we'd press again, and
Speaker 1: then we'd keep y apping, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I didn't I don't.
Speaker 3: Need to go to therapy. I just need to do
Speaker 3: this with my girlfriends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. And then when you have kids, like Maxie
Speaker 4: has one son and two daughters, and we were I
Speaker 4: don't know, we were kind of like down on the
Speaker 4: dumps over the holidays, and I was like, let's go
Speaker 4: to Vegas with our kids. We went we Sufferno Mars
Speaker 4: and it was so much fun because Max and I
Speaker 4: have like a naughty streak, so we kept trying to gamble,
Speaker 4: and we didn't have like babysitters, so we were like, guys,
Speaker 4: just call I guess, so wall like just stand there
Speaker 4: and gamble a bit. Security kept coming around being like, man,
Speaker 4: kids are not allowed on the floor, and we're like, oh, sorry,
Speaker 4: our badst It was so dysfunctional, but so fun because it's.
Speaker 3: Hard lucky in love?
Speaker 2: Are you lucky on the casino floor?
Speaker 4: Also, I actually didn't know what I was doing and
Speaker 4: I made like three hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: Jordana, I'm curious about something because I can tell you're
Speaker 2: such an avid consumer of art and film and culture.
Speaker 2: Is there a type of project or role that people
Speaker 2: wouldn't expect from you, but that you're dying to do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I want to be in something like
Speaker 4: Big Little Lies or White Lotus. It's like raunchy and
Speaker 4: fun and dark, and so I want to be in
Speaker 4: something like that where I get to just like, I
Speaker 4: feel like a lot of the time, I'm like the
Speaker 4: good girl and the pretty girl and it's so boring,
Speaker 4: and I just like, that's not my personality, and so
Speaker 4: I just want to like lean into smart, dark humor.
Speaker 4: So a show like that would be my jam for sure.
Speaker 4: Or even like Carrie Russell on The Diplomat. I love
Speaker 4: it because she's so smart and witty, but also she's
Speaker 4: not like all good or all bad, and it's interesting
Speaker 4: and I feel like roles get better as you get older.
Speaker 3: Something Danielle and I talk about a lot.
Speaker 1: Is that perception challenge that you just mentioned, Like, I
Speaker 1: know what my value is, I know how I can
Speaker 1: enhance this project, but for whatever reason, You've got a
Speaker 1: block and you can't perceive me in that way. That's
Speaker 1: something that has come up for me in my career
Speaker 1: so much. What have you learned about.
Speaker 4: By the way, You're so lucky you know what your
Speaker 4: value is because sometimes I don't. Sometimes like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: think if someone plants a seed of doubt, I have
Speaker 4: to be really I have a bumper sticker on my
Speaker 4: car that says, don't believe everything you think and it's
Speaker 4: really about the thoughts are all bs, they're popping up
Speaker 4: all but you have to check in and go does
Speaker 4: that resonate? Do I agree with? And I have to
Speaker 4: I think I'm so used to like the good girl
Speaker 4: thing where you're like, oh yeah, no, no, of course
Speaker 4: I'll do that and sure and instead of just going
Speaker 4: m I do really feel about that, And that's that's
Speaker 4: a muscle that I had to train. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: often have to be like no, I don't, I don't
Speaker 4: agree with that, and that little seed of doubt like
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna purge that guy. So but I think
Speaker 4: it's really important to have that inner strength and I
Speaker 4: still work on it, Like every day, I.
Speaker 1: Feel like you're inside my head because this is exactly
Speaker 1: what I'm like dealing with and working through when it
Speaker 1: comes to circumventing other people's incorrect or inaccurate perceptions of
Speaker 1: you in your work and your career.
Speaker 3: How do you do that? What have you learned about
Speaker 3: that process?
Speaker 4: So I play mojong sometimes and it's a total I
Speaker 4: don't like. I like it for the social aspect because
Speaker 4: honestly it's a little too complicated and I don't know
Speaker 4: all the rules. But anyway, I was so, I was
Speaker 4: in this group and there was this woman next to me,
Speaker 4: and I could tell she just I don't think I
Speaker 4: was making up a story. I irked her, like I
Speaker 4: bugged her, and I straight up said, like, I can
Speaker 4: tell you hate me, and she because I feel like
Speaker 4: sometimes and I think it's part of being socially awkward.
Speaker 4: It's like I don't like the nice cities, and then
Speaker 4: where did you grow up? And it's like I'd rather
Speaker 4: just get down to it, and I think it disarmed her.
Speaker 4: But it also I just like said the unsaid, And
Speaker 4: I think sometimes you have to and as long as
Speaker 4: you're totally comfortable with what you're saying, it'll be received
Speaker 4: in the right way, you know, So I think you
Speaker 4: just have to address it. In a non address it
Speaker 4: with humor, I think is the best thing to do.
Speaker 3: You're so right, that's such a good point, which.
Speaker 4: Is I mean, it's easier said than done.
Speaker 2: But yeah, do you yourself ever having to overcompensate in
Speaker 2: social situations outside of work? Of course, because of your
Speaker 2: position in life. I feel like it must be interesting
Speaker 2: for people in amagen group to perceive you like you're
Speaker 2: really beautiful. You have this beautiful career, beautiful family, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: but do you ever feel like you almost have to
Speaker 2: overcompensate and be like overly nice.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be really nice, but I do put
Speaker 4: myself down and sometimes I'm like, wait, why am I
Speaker 4: doing that? Like like if like sometimes I make the
Speaker 4: mistake of not remembering, because again, if you're socially awkward
Speaker 4: or if you have anxiety, you kind of you don't
Speaker 4: black out during interactions, but you're so in your own
Speaker 4: head and you're still thinking like, oh my god, what
Speaker 4: am I saying? And da da da da da that
Speaker 4: you're not fully present, so you don't remember the person's name.
Speaker 4: And it's not because I'm a bee, It's because I
Speaker 4: just was in my head. And so oftentimes you're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we met at this baby group like three years ago,
Speaker 4: and I'm and then I'm like, instead of just saying, oh,
Speaker 4: I apologize, I'll put myself down and say like, oh
Speaker 4: I have the worst memory, or oh, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 4: and like that's bes I shouldn't do that, you know,
Speaker 4: I should just own it and be like, oh, I'm
Speaker 4: so I'm not. I know I'm not a rude person,
Speaker 4: and I know I'm not dismissive, so I shouldn't let
Speaker 4: that person's in security make me feel ashamed. So that,
Speaker 4: but like, how exhausting are all these dynamics.
Speaker 3: It's a lot.
Speaker 2: It feels like you've really lived the width of your life,
Speaker 2: not just the length of it. You've had so many
Speaker 2: interesting experiences. At the risk of sounding cliche, if you
Speaker 2: could go back and tell Jordana, who had just embarked
Speaker 2: on Hollywood something, what would you say to her?
Speaker 4: I would say it's something I'm still working on, which
Speaker 4: is like you deserve to be there. Don't apologize for
Speaker 4: yourself ever, and start writing like I think it's taken
Speaker 4: me so long, and to go, oh I have something
Speaker 4: to say, or oh, like even something as silly as
Speaker 4: like recently I went to Golden Globes parties with my
Speaker 4: with my husband and because he loves to go and
Speaker 4: he's on a different side of the whole thing. But
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, babe, Like I'm not nominated,
Speaker 4: I don't know anyone. That's not like, why am I there?
Speaker 4: It's silly. It's like going to the problem when you don't.
Speaker 4: And he's like, you belong, and so I would just say,
Speaker 4: like you belong, Get out of your head.
Speaker 3: That's really beautiful.
Speaker 2: I think that that is like the most basic human
Speaker 2: need is to feel a sense of belonging.
Speaker 4: Totally.
Speaker 3: That's primal. It's in our dna.
Speaker 4: I also tell my sons all the time, like a
Speaker 4: rising tide raises all shits, like you don't need someone
Speaker 4: else to be that you feel better. I feel like
Speaker 4: that's also something that especially amongst women, I just don't
Speaker 4: think that's that should be a thing. And so I
Speaker 4: would have told my little little Jordana that as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us, Jordana.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you guys. This was so fun.
Speaker 1: Jordana Brewster is an actor best known for her role
Speaker 1: in the Fast and Furious franchise. She's starting in the
Speaker 1: new movie Hard Eyes, which is out tomorrow.
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