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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today, on the bright side, Valentine's

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Speaker 1: Day is just around the corner, y'all. An actress Jordana

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Speaker 1: Brewster is here to get us in the mood. The

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Speaker 1: Fast and Furious star talks behind the scenes details from

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Speaker 1: the latest Fast movie, her own swoon worthy love story,

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Speaker 1: plus her new murderous brom com, Hard Eyes, which is

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Speaker 1: out tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: A murderous rom com feels like my love life. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's Thursday, February sixth I'm Danielle Robe.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Simone Boyce.

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Speaker 1: And this is the bright side from Hello Sunshine.

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Speaker 2: See money. We have a real life action hero on

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Speaker 2: today's show. Jordana Brewster has been lighting up the screen

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Speaker 2: in the Fast and Furious movies for over twenty years.

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Speaker 2: We all know her as Mia Toretto, the younger sister

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Speaker 2: of Vin Diesel's Dominic Toretto and the wife of the

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Speaker 2: late Paul Walker's character Brian O'Connor.

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Speaker 3: These movies are huge.

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Speaker 1: That's honestly kind of an understatement, because collectively the ten

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Speaker 1: installments have earned more than seven billion dollars at the

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Speaker 1: global box office. And the big news is that a

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Speaker 1: new movie is in the works.

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Speaker 2: The hype is so real. These movies made me interested

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Speaker 2: in cars, right Like. There have been tons of headlines

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Speaker 2: coming out about the newest Fast movie, in particular the

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Speaker 2: return of Dwayne the Rock Johnson who stepped away in

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, so we had to ask her about that,

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Speaker 2: oh for sure.

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Speaker 1: And this weekend, Jordiana's out with a brand new movie

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Speaker 1: called Hard Eyes. It's kind of this like genre bending

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Speaker 1: horror film that has rom com sensibilities.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a lot of us don't put Valentine's Day and

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Speaker 2: horror movie together, but I have to be honest, dating

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Speaker 2: is very scary.

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Speaker 3: This fits. Okay, you have to say more.

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Speaker 1: And also I'm dying to know if you have any

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day horror stories. You know, my love life is

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Speaker 1: very stable and boring, so.

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Speaker 3: What a dream goals? Please literally share with me. Okay.

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Speaker 2: The worst part is that I've had more bad Valentine's

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Speaker 2: Days than good Valentine's Days. You know, it's just there's

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Speaker 2: high expectations. It rarely turns out the way you want

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Speaker 2: it to. But probably the funniest one I've had was

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Speaker 2: in college. I was a sophomore and this really cute

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Speaker 2: senior that I had been so into for like a

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Speaker 2: year and a half finally asked me out. And in college,

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Speaker 2: you don't really go on dates, like you either meet

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Speaker 3: There's no dating.

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Speaker 2: And he asked me to go to sushi at this

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Speaker 2: nice at this nice restaurant in the capitol of Madison, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: And I got all dressed up, and I was so nervous,

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Speaker 2: and I think he was really nervous because we were

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Speaker 2: walking up the steps to the sushi restaurant and it's

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Speaker 2: freezing in Madison. It's the middle of winter, right, and

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Speaker 2: I guess there was ice on the steps, and he

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Speaker 2: face planted onto the stairs. His whole forehead was cut.

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Speaker 2: He was gushing blood and pretending like it's fine, it's fine,

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Speaker 2: I'm all good, because he wanted to get to dinner.

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Speaker 1: No, oh my gosh, it's not him pretending like he

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Speaker 3: Like I was.

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Speaker 2: Sitting across from him at sushi the whole time being like,

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Speaker 2: do you need to have your forehead's still bleeding?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, okay, Like I feel like that

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Speaker 2: I know he's married with kids now, so I think

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Speaker 2: it turned out okay for him. But yeah, literally a

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Speaker 2: horror movie Valentine's Day, gushing blood.

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Speaker 1: He'll always think of you when he walks up a

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Speaker 3: Mmm, so that's how he'll remember me. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully Jordana's love life isn't as scary as yours. Danielle,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in Welcome to the bright Side. Jordana, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for being here. You know, before you

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Speaker 1: came on, we were just talking about our own Valentine's

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Speaker 1: Day horror stories in honor of your new.

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Speaker 3: Film Hard Eyes.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any Valentine's Day or just dating like

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Speaker 1: true like horror stories.

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Speaker 4: I guess my horror story would be I went to

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Speaker 4: The tone was off. There was nothing romantic or fun

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Speaker 4: And so it was just massively awkward, which like if

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Speaker 3: Wait me too, I feel very seen.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I would never guess that you do not seem awkward.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen you have an awkward moment ever.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's really nice, but no, I do feel awkward

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Speaker 1: Okay, we have to talk about your new movie, Hard Eyes.

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Speaker 1: It's out this weekend, currently has a ninety two percent

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Speaker 3: Casual congratulations. That's incredible you.

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Speaker 4: I keep refreshing it and check because it's like it's

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Speaker 1: So you do kind of pay attention to that stuff

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I mean, if technology wasn't so accessible,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm a victim of that for sure. I

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Speaker 4: check IMDb message boards. I'm not above it.

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Speaker 2: But you've been a part of so many successful films

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Speaker 2: that I understand. It's like you don't want a loser

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 4: I think I wish I could say I was that that,

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Speaker 4: just a little bit masochistic. I just need to know,

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Speaker 4: you know. And then I think what I try to

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Speaker 1: It's so much easier to write a negative comment, uh,

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's hoolicy out there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about this film because it's it's

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Speaker 1: kind of genre bending. It's it's not a typical heartwarming

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Speaker 1: or thriller with these rom com undertones. The tagline is

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Speaker 1: no couple is safe. What makes this the perfect date

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's the perfect date night movie because

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Speaker 4: if you don't like horror and you're kind of you

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Speaker 4: are also lots of little like links to the movies

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Speaker 4: like Scream and I Know What you did last summer,

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Speaker 4: And so if you enjoy like finding those easter eggs,

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Speaker 2: So when I'm on an airplane, I watch one of

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Speaker 2: two things, either a rom com or one of the

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Speaker 2: fast films. I can't watch that enough.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's so good, Thank you. Which one's your favorite.

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Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for the early ones, yeah, because that

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Speaker 3: But they're all really good, Like there's not you know.

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Speaker 4: You know, they've aged really well, they really have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what made you excited about filming a horror rom com?

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Speaker 3: This is such a departure.

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Speaker 4: So I've been in horror before, and horror can be

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Speaker 4: But what I loved about this one was the comedic aspect,

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Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like we do need to talk about

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Speaker 1: some big news lately. We've heard that Dwayne the Rock

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Speaker 1: the fast casts? Like, what's the what's the one that

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Speaker 4: So people think that, you know, the shooting of the

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Speaker 4: But the promoting of the film, when you're getting paid

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Speaker 3: All right, Geordana.

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Speaker 1: Well, this episode is coming out around Valentine's Day and

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Speaker 4: Yes, because I think oftentimes you know, and I did

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many like however, I have to say,

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with that book. Jonathan hates

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Speaker 3: I like that. I'm going with passionate. That's my new narrative.

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Speaker 1: It's time for another shortbreak, but we'll be right back

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Speaker 1: with Jordana Brewster.

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Speaker 1: Jordana, when I think about the things in my life

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Speaker 1: And I know that you have a ton of friends.

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Speaker 1: I can tell friendship is so important to you as well.

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Speaker 4: My rider died Max. Like we always talk about like

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Speaker 4: always been a girls girl. I've always felt super comfortable

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Speaker 4: with girls and haven't ever felt like, oh, well, you know,

437
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Speaker 4: we're in competition, so this is what this is going

438
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Speaker 4: to be like, Like that's that's super foreign to me.

439
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Speaker 4: So I trust with my whole heart, and I dive

440
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Speaker 4: in and sometimes I overshare and and but that's just

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Speaker 4: who I am.

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Speaker 1: My girlfriend just came to stay with me at this

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Speaker 1: hotel that I'm at right now. And this is a

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Speaker 1: friend I've known for twenty years. We went to college together.

445
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Speaker 1: She's one of my best friends. And we had all

446
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Speaker 1: these big plans to go out, but every single night

447
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: all we did was put on Old Sex and the

448
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: City episodes, pause it debrief for like thirty minutes about

449
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Speaker 1: whatever it was that Carrie just did whatever messy thing

450
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: that she just did, and then we'd press again, and

451
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Speaker 1: then we'd keep y apping, and I was like, oh

452
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Speaker 1: my gosh, I didn't I don't.

453
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Speaker 3: Need to go to therapy. I just need to do

454
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Speaker 3: this with my girlfriends.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. And then when you have kids, like Maxie

456
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Speaker 4: has one son and two daughters, and we were I

457
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: don't know, we were kind of like down on the

458
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Speaker 4: dumps over the holidays, and I was like, let's go

459
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Speaker 4: to Vegas with our kids. We went we Sufferno Mars

460
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Speaker 4: and it was so much fun because Max and I

461
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Speaker 4: have like a naughty streak, so we kept trying to gamble,

462
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Speaker 4: and we didn't have like babysitters, so we were like, guys,

463
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Speaker 4: just call I guess, so wall like just stand there

464
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Speaker 4: and gamble a bit. Security kept coming around being like, man,

465
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Speaker 4: kids are not allowed on the floor, and we're like, oh, sorry,

466
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Speaker 4: our badst It was so dysfunctional, but so fun because it's.

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Speaker 3: Hard lucky in love?

468
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Speaker 2: Are you lucky on the casino floor?

469
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Speaker 4: Also, I actually didn't know what I was doing and

470
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Speaker 4: I made like three hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: Jordana, I'm curious about something because I can tell you're

472
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Speaker 2: such an avid consumer of art and film and culture.

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Speaker 2: Is there a type of project or role that people

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Speaker 2: wouldn't expect from you, but that you're dying to do?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I want to be in something like

476
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Speaker 4: Big Little Lies or White Lotus. It's like raunchy and

477
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Speaker 4: fun and dark, and so I want to be in

478
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Speaker 4: something like that where I get to just like, I

479
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 4: feel like a lot of the time, I'm like the

480
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 4: good girl and the pretty girl and it's so boring,

481
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 4: and I just like, that's not my personality, and so

482
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 4: I just want to like lean into smart, dark humor.

483
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: So a show like that would be my jam for sure.

484
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Speaker 4: Or even like Carrie Russell on The Diplomat. I love

485
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: it because she's so smart and witty, but also she's

486
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 4: not like all good or all bad, and it's interesting

487
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Speaker 4: and I feel like roles get better as you get older.

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Speaker 3: Something Danielle and I talk about a lot.

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Speaker 1: Is that perception challenge that you just mentioned, Like, I

490
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: know what my value is, I know how I can

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Speaker 1: enhance this project, but for whatever reason, You've got a

492
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Speaker 1: block and you can't perceive me in that way. That's

493
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Speaker 1: something that has come up for me in my career

494
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: so much. What have you learned about.

495
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Speaker 4: By the way, You're so lucky you know what your

496
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 4: value is because sometimes I don't. Sometimes like, yeah, I

497
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: think if someone plants a seed of doubt, I have

498
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Speaker 4: to be really I have a bumper sticker on my

499
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Speaker 4: car that says, don't believe everything you think and it's

500
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Speaker 4: really about the thoughts are all bs, they're popping up

501
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 4: all but you have to check in and go does

502
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Speaker 4: that resonate? Do I agree with? And I have to

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Speaker 4: I think I'm so used to like the good girl

504
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 4: thing where you're like, oh yeah, no, no, of course

505
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Speaker 4: I'll do that and sure and instead of just going

506
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Speaker 4: m I do really feel about that, And that's that's

507
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: a muscle that I had to train. So yeah, I

508
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Speaker 4: often have to be like no, I don't, I don't

509
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Speaker 4: agree with that, and that little seed of doubt like

510
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna purge that guy. So but I think

511
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Speaker 4: it's really important to have that inner strength and I

512
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: still work on it, Like every day, I.

513
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Speaker 1: Feel like you're inside my head because this is exactly

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Speaker 1: what I'm like dealing with and working through when it

515
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Speaker 1: comes to circumventing other people's incorrect or inaccurate perceptions of

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Speaker 1: you in your work and your career.

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Speaker 3: How do you do that? What have you learned about

518
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Speaker 3: that process?

519
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Speaker 4: So I play mojong sometimes and it's a total I

520
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: don't like. I like it for the social aspect because

521
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 4: honestly it's a little too complicated and I don't know

522
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Speaker 4: all the rules. But anyway, I was so, I was

523
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Speaker 4: in this group and there was this woman next to me,

524
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Speaker 4: and I could tell she just I don't think I

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00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: was making up a story. I irked her, like I

526
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 4: bugged her, and I straight up said, like, I can

527
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 4: tell you hate me, and she because I feel like

528
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 4: sometimes and I think it's part of being socially awkward.

529
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Speaker 4: It's like I don't like the nice cities, and then

530
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 4: where did you grow up? And it's like I'd rather

531
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Speaker 4: just get down to it, and I think it disarmed her.

532
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 4: But it also I just like said the unsaid, And

533
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Speaker 4: I think sometimes you have to and as long as

534
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: you're totally comfortable with what you're saying, it'll be received

535
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: in the right way, you know, So I think you

536
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: just have to address it. In a non address it

537
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: with humor, I think is the best thing to do.

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Speaker 3: You're so right, that's such a good point, which.

539
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 4: Is I mean, it's easier said than done.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, do you yourself ever having to overcompensate in

541
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: social situations outside of work? Of course, because of your

542
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: position in life. I feel like it must be interesting

543
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: for people in amagen group to perceive you like you're

544
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Speaker 2: really beautiful. You have this beautiful career, beautiful family, Like yeah,

545
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: but do you ever feel like you almost have to

546
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Speaker 2: overcompensate and be like overly nice.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be really nice, but I do put

548
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: myself down and sometimes I'm like, wait, why am I

549
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: doing that? Like like if like sometimes I make the

550
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: mistake of not remembering, because again, if you're socially awkward

551
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: or if you have anxiety, you kind of you don't

552
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: black out during interactions, but you're so in your own

553
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: head and you're still thinking like, oh my god, what

554
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: am I saying? And da da da da da that

555
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: you're not fully present, so you don't remember the person's name.

556
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Speaker 4: And it's not because I'm a bee, It's because I

557
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: just was in my head. And so oftentimes you're like, yeah,

558
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: we met at this baby group like three years ago,

559
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 4: and I'm and then I'm like, instead of just saying, oh,

560
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: I apologize, I'll put myself down and say like, oh

561
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 4: I have the worst memory, or oh, I'm so sorry,

562
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: and like that's bes I shouldn't do that, you know,

563
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 4: I should just own it and be like, oh, I'm

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00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: so I'm not. I know I'm not a rude person,

565
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: and I know I'm not dismissive, so I shouldn't let

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Speaker 4: that person's in security make me feel ashamed. So that,

567
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: but like, how exhausting are all these dynamics.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot.

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Speaker 2: It feels like you've really lived the width of your life,

570
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: not just the length of it. You've had so many

571
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: interesting experiences. At the risk of sounding cliche, if you

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Speaker 2: could go back and tell Jordana, who had just embarked

573
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Speaker 2: on Hollywood something, what would you say to her?

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Speaker 4: I would say it's something I'm still working on, which

575
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: is like you deserve to be there. Don't apologize for

576
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 4: yourself ever, and start writing like I think it's taken

577
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: me so long, and to go, oh I have something

578
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: to say, or oh, like even something as silly as

579
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Speaker 4: like recently I went to Golden Globes parties with my

580
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: with my husband and because he loves to go and

581
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Speaker 4: he's on a different side of the whole thing. But

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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, babe, Like I'm not nominated,

583
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Speaker 4: I don't know anyone. That's not like, why am I there?

584
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: It's silly. It's like going to the problem when you don't.

585
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: And he's like, you belong, and so I would just say,

586
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: like you belong, Get out of your head.

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Speaker 3: That's really beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I think that that is like the most basic human

589
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: need is to feel a sense of belonging.

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00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: Totally.

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00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: That's primal. It's in our dna.

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Speaker 4: I also tell my sons all the time, like a

593
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: rising tide raises all shits, like you don't need someone

594
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: else to be that you feel better. I feel like

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00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: that's also something that especially amongst women, I just don't

596
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: think that's that should be a thing. And so I

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00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: would have told my little little Jordana that as well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us, Jordana.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you guys. This was so fun.

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Speaker 1: in the Fast and Furious franchise. She's starting in the

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Speaker 1: new movie Hard Eyes, which is out tomorrow.

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