1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: M all right, everybody welcomes to the state of the 2 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: late just postgame space. UM, I appreciate you guys making 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: time for us on your Sunday night to come and 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: hang out. I hope you brought questions. I hope you 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: brought anything you want to vent about, anything you want 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: to say, because we're gonna try to take as many 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: as we can tonight. Obviously, I think everything we have 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: to say about tonight starts and ends with a D. 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Don't you think garage? Oh yeah, absolutely, I had a 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: bunch of things written down here, but a D for 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: sure is the main main story we can start with 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: him for sure. Yeah, I think, like, uh, you know, 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: we started to notice that he looked a little bit 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: better physically the last couple of games. Um, the big 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me tonight is, you know, 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: his physical aggressiveness around on the basket on both ends 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: of the floor, and not just as an offensive player, 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: but as a rebounder and as a shot blocker. And 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: the thing is is, like, you know, you can tell 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: there's a huge difference with him offensively when he's being 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: more physically aggressive, because just like with that shot chart 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: that I shared, he just tends to get a little 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: bit closer to the rim with those jump shots. Like 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: there's a huge difference for a d between his fade 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: away and when he's shooting over the top of people. 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: It's like two completely different shots because like he gets 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: into your body and he kind of reaches over the 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: top of you, and he's shooting like an eight foot 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: jump shot. That's a really high percentage shot. It's different 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: than him taking some you know, crazy spinning fade away 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: from sev feet. If you look at his shot chart, 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: he hit a bunch of shots going over both shoulders, 33 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: getting into that like you know, five to ten foot 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: range where he's so deadly with his soft touch. Yeah, 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: for sure, And like I'm gonna tipe this back into 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: a D. But like we were talking about how like 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: un serious the Lakers were, right in a lot of 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: these games, and like tonight, Vogo coached as like it 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: was a playoff game, right. He matched up, He went 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: with correct matchups all night pretty much, and a D 41 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: as well. To start this game. He was aggressive. They 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: had I think Tory Craig on him to start. He 43 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: just was no matchup for him. They even had to 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: start Dario. Sorry, I think in the second half to 45 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: match up to match with Anthony Davis, and he who 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: went off his jumper was going. He was at the rim, 47 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: getting fouls, getting contact, and this is what we wanted 48 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: to see, right, Like I keep saying, these wins are 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: just cravy. He's We're pretty much locked into the seventh 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: seed pretty much. So these wins to me are just 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: like cherry on the top. A D looking like himself 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: is the most important thing, and he he absolutely did tonight. 53 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: He did against Portland as well, and he's going on 54 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: like a linear curve, right, is what it feels like. 55 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: Likes Denver, the Clippers. I think he only played like 56 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: the first quarter, but against Denver, Portland and now Phoenix, 57 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: he's on like a linear curve here, just really being aggressive, 58 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: being himself, being you know, there was this bubble a 59 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: D talks, but he just looks. Uh, he just looks 60 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: like himself and that's the most important thing. And him 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: dropping I think I think he got to forty tonight, right, 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: forty points, back to back thirty point games for the 63 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: first time, the second time the season since February. So yeah, 64 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: he was he was dominating. He was the he was 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: a big story tonight. Well, and like he I, you know, 66 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: I think that while it's also important for us to 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: acknowledge that he's been amazing in this last week, it's 68 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: also important for us to acknowledge that he wasn't great 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: for most of this season, and you know, maybe it 70 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: was health, maybe it was a lack of effort, maybe 71 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: it was coasting, whatever you wanna call it. But this 72 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: has been different. You know, I pointed out the stats 73 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: uh last week, but he had like five forty point 74 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: games and I think a fifty last uh last season 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: as well, and I think this is I think this 76 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: is just his second forty point game of the year 77 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: this year. So it's been nice to see him peeking 78 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: at the right time, if that makes sense. But you know, 79 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: we had our concerns for good reason, because it just 80 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: didn't It just didn't look right. And the biggest difference 81 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: to me, it was, you know, that diving on the floor, 82 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: the yelling and screaming after the alley. Youops, like there 83 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: was a play there in the third quarter where he 84 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: broke up a lob where it's just like an extra 85 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: effort play that we haven't seen from him yet this year, 86 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: and just just there was a fieriness and a competitiveness 87 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: to the way he was playing tonight. That was super 88 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: refreshing to see because he is a competitor like that, 89 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe it was just his leg and 90 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: in him dealing with that all season, but we just 91 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: didn't see that out of him this year. So it 92 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: was so refreshing to see that out of him, literally 93 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: in every facet of the game. Like he was just 94 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: in a game that had Devin Booker and Chris Paul, 95 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: he was several tiers ahead of everybody else on the 96 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: floor as the best player in the game. And that 97 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: was that was comforting to see. Yeah, his motor is 98 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: what's what makes him part generational. Right, It's like if 99 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: motor combined with those skills, combined with the like being 100 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: able to remount off into remount, go up your boards, 101 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: played like his defense man tonight, Like you could just 102 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: tell the difference. He obviously walked into this season trying 103 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: to relax, get through a slowly fit in. Right. He 104 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: said a lot his quotes earlier in the year, we're 105 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: a lot about fitting into a new team, and like 106 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: you're Anthony Davis, you don't fit into the team. But yeah, yeah, exactly, 107 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: and so like his defense is what allows them to 108 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: play the kind to play the way they did tonight, right, 109 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: especially against Phoenix trapping Devin Booker being able to switch. 110 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: Devin Booker like was isolated against a D a few 111 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: times tonight and just could not even get a shot off, right, Like, 112 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: he couldn't even get any space. And that's the type 113 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: of stuff that we just weren't seeing earlier in the year. 114 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: And you're right, it's okay to like bring that up. 115 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: And he's able to help and recover. He had one 116 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: play where he he was able to recover at the 117 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: room and get out and block Jay Crowder And I'm like, yeah, 118 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: that's that's how you know a D is like feeling 119 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: like himself, right, He's able to He controlled both ends, 120 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: and I think he only finished with like five assists, 121 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: but I thought he handled double teams really well. I 122 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: don't know about you, Like he felt like he really 123 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: like read the traps nicely. Um that played before the half, 124 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: especially where like they came and sent the double he 125 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: found Ben McLamore in the corner and it was just 126 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: great to see him, Like, like, I hate how far 127 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: radical this team is because now you're just theoretically putting 128 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: Lebron in now right, You're like, Okay, how it's gonna 129 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: look with Lebron of it. If those two are going, 130 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: it's gonna be special. I don't think Phoenix wants to 131 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: see this team um should be in the first round. 132 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Well so, so starting with the individual side of it, uh, 133 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: that was what was cool about the specific matchup. One 134 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: of the big things that I've always said that I 135 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: like about the Suns as a potential playoff team is 136 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: they have all of these wing defenders, and they also 137 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: have these guards that can defend. But then they also 138 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: have like a big guy, you know, DeAndre Nuken theoretically 139 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: with his size match up with some of the bigger 140 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: players in the league. Well, Anthony Davis saw all of 141 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: those guys tonight and just barbecued every single one of them, 142 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: like they literally could do nothing with him in individual coverage. 143 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: And then it just kind of waterfalls into the progressions. 144 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: Right then then they started sending double teams and and 145 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: and and I thought one of the really smart things 146 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: that the Lakers did, especially in the minutes that Marcusol 147 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: was in the game and our guy ven A was 148 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: actually tweeting about this, and I thought it was a 149 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: really smart find on his part. But when they would 150 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: put Marcussol as the guy at the top of the 151 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: key out of those double teams, it is perfect because 152 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: then it's simplified eighties read He could just make a 153 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: quick read out to Mark and then Mark, you know, 154 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: a really gifted passer, could be the guy that really 155 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: made them pay by making the more complicated read out 156 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: of those double teams. But yeah, I mean the end 157 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: of the third quarter was the microcosm of of what 158 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: it's like having such a matchup problem. You know, Anthony 159 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: Davis dribbles the ball across half court with twenty seconds 160 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: to go in the in the quarter shot clocks is 161 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: turned off and the sons are all kind of looking 162 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: at each other like what are we supposed to do? 163 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: And then they just openly double him thirty five ft 164 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: from the basket, and it leads to a wide open 165 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: shot for a guy who if you leave them wide open, 166 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna make him in Ben McLamore, and he knocked 167 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: it down and and it was just it was just 168 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: cool to see that. And honestly, it was just like 169 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: it was a you know, just a great scia of 170 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: relief for Laker fans because Anthony Davis being Anthony Davis 171 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: was such an important box to check for this team 172 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: to be able to compete in this competitive playoff field 173 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: that we have, and that appears to have been resoundingly 174 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: checked in this last week, minus, of course, a couple 175 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: of scares like him once again like he does every 176 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: single night, randomly grabbing at a limb, scaring us into 177 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: thinking he might have been hurt. But I mean, I 178 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: don't know how like he looks tonight. He looks like 179 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: bubble Anthony Davis, which I think is exactly what we 180 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: were hoping to see before this. Uh this last five 181 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: games stretches over yeah, yeah, and like that that kind 182 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: of brings everyone else up right, like everyone else goes 183 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: like it's time to go right. All the rotations were 184 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Chris christ tonight. We had like a Cameron payin game 185 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: because of course we had a camera paining game. But um, 186 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: other than that, I thought they played really well. They 187 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: played Chris Paul and Devin Booker, I think as well 188 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: as I've seen anyone play them. Bulbo, like I said before, 189 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: was in like his playoff kind of form. I guess 190 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: we can kind of move on after like a d 191 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: I guess he's still part of this. But like we 192 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: saw the soul in treas minutes tonight, which I thought 193 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: would be a revelation. Um, I thought they played really 194 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: well in the first half and the second half. They 195 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: still have some kings to work out. Um, but I 196 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: thought it looked nice. Likes was able to play the 197 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: five on offense and then play the floor on defense. Um, 198 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: did you like what you saw from that? Like that 199 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: that last part is key because you know, so for instance, 200 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: I've I've talked to you a lot this season, like 201 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Mantrise has to defend like a four, and for the record, 202 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't mean he needs to be the four. 203 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: You can do this when so for instance, like if 204 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: you have a to a two three pick and roll, 205 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: usually you're two and three will will switch that screen. 206 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Usually only actions that involve the five will cause teams 207 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: to do you know, drop coverages and different pick and 208 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: roll coverages that involved the big man, you know, doing 209 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: something different than a traditional switch. Well, I've always been 210 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: arguing this season that montres AND's a switch screen and 211 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: roll because he is good in space, because he is 212 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: a good athlete with long arms who moves well laterally. 213 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: It has a great motor, and he operates well in 214 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: the chaos when he's running around in rotations and helping 215 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: when you know, off of double teams and stuff, and 216 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: so like when you put him defensively as the four 217 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: and he's no longer a screen and roll defender but 218 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: rather just a defender playing on the perimeter, he's actually 219 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: a really good defensive player. And I think he's been 220 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: miscast as a dude who defends like a traditional five. 221 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: When you play him as the five, you need to 222 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: use him more as a perimeter type of defensive player. 223 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: And what's nice about the Marcus All minutes is it 224 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: unlocks that it allows him to defensively play like a four, 225 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: and you can see how how that works. It didn't 226 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: look in the in the fourth quarter, but I think 227 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: that was kind of a stretch in the game where 228 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: the where the Lakers were letting go of the rope 229 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: a bit from in terms of their effort um. So 230 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: I didn't think that like even when camera Payne was 231 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: going off like it kind of felt more profit product 232 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: of sloppiness um just kind of as a result of 233 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: being up twenty. But yeah, I agree with you, man, 234 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: And what a great what a great excuse to get 235 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: more Marcus all minutes than to play him with Tres. 236 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: If you're so intent on on on playing Montrez, like 237 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: do it with Cassol, then you can get Gasol in 238 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: there too. And and I hope they do it a 239 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: little bit more because I do think he provides a 240 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: unique twist to what they bring in terms of their physicality. Yeah, 241 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: and it's not just the Disol minutes. It's also there 242 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: was no markiep tonight, and I think he's playable in 243 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: certain matchups. It's just like a drum that I've been 244 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: banging all season. Is I just don't think you can 245 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: have Mark Keith and Treads as your four or five, right, 246 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: And they were doing that a lot this year, and 247 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: they would blow a lot of the leads of the 248 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: starters would put up and so one of them would 249 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: sit and tonight it was Markiss. Maybe it's Treads and 250 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: Ou tonight. But again that's just a way to get 251 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Gasol more minutes. And I think this is this was 252 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: a serious game, Like you could tell it was coach 253 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: that way. Um he was even like he was matching 254 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: Crusoe's minutes with Chris Paul and Casey's minutes with Devin Booker. Again, 255 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: those are just like seriousness things that we just weren't 256 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: doing early in the year, right, and we were we 257 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: really wanted to win this game. It was showed and 258 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: I thought everyone played that way. And yeah, Gasol looks 259 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: like he's gonna start getting even more minutes. He went 260 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: to drumming a little bit in that fourth quarter, and again, 261 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: I think he just keeps trying to do that, trying 262 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: to see if it works. And I guess we can 263 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: kind of move to drumming here because I think that's 264 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: a hot topic as well. On Laker's Twitter, I talked 265 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: about a lot like Drummond has a lot of loud mistakes, right, 266 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: Like that's why he gets like to Like I thought 267 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: he like did an okay job, Like he was a 268 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: force on the offensive rebounds. Um, I wish that every 269 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: time he got an offensive rebound he just kicked it 270 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: out because like, I just don't trust him to go back. 271 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, like I thought he was a part 272 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: of why Deandreden wasn't um an impact at all to 273 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: like the fourth quarter, right, So I thought like there 274 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: were points he did struggle a few times, but um, yeah, 275 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: like I felt like it was another game where he 276 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: had a lot of loud mistakes and it really showed 277 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: up in the fourth quarter. What do you think of 278 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: Drummond from tonight? I thought he had a bad fourth 279 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: quarter shift, but outside of that, I thought he was 280 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, I agree with you, he's got 281 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: loud mistakes. He's a he's your textbook good play bad 282 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: play guy. And whether or not whether or not it's 283 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: a good ANDREI Drummond game has to do with whether 284 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: or not there were more good plays than bad plays. 285 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: It's really it's really that simple. And you know, he 286 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: had a couple of sloppy turnovers where he tried to 287 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: put the ball on the floor after offensive rebounds in 288 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: the first staff and they were turnovers. But like the 289 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: the in the grand scheme of things, he had more 290 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: positive impact than negative impact during those shifts and really 291 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: physically imposing getting And you know, it's it's not the 292 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: Andre Drummond in the vacuum. It's him in combination with 293 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, just the two of them when they're both 294 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: being physically aggressive. It's just what like it just wears 295 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: on other teams. And then you throw Lebron into that mix. 296 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: Who is every bit is you know, physically imposing as 297 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: those guys. It can it can it can be is 298 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: something that can be a weapon that the Lakers have 299 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: in their arsenal. But you know, again, as long as 300 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: they do what Frank did, you know, Hey, you know 301 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Drummond is having a bad fourth quarter shift here, the 302 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: wheels are coming off a little bit. Let's go to 303 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: Mark And that's what he did. And you know that 304 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: that to me is how you got to use Drummond 305 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: is you've got to kind of feel out what kind 306 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: of nightties having and if it is just like the 307 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: Dwight Howard experience, like feel out what kind of nighties having. 308 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: If he's having one of those nights, you just gotta 309 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: pull it. But but if he's if he's staying on 310 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: task and his good outweighs the bad, you can him 311 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: for stretches and he's gonna be uh that positive. Yeah, 312 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: he had a few like nice jobs on like where 313 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: Chris Paul would come off a screen. He was able 314 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: to like hedge and then recover back right. And he 315 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: was a part he was to be part of the 316 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: scheme of the of the defense in the first quarter. 317 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: But everyone's gonna remember that that mislay up where I 318 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: think Jake Crowder was on the floor or I think 319 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: he had another he had another really bad play, But 320 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: I thought he was okay. Like again, I just feel 321 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: like he's are all gonna be situational, and we saw 322 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: that tonight. Marcosol was the first big to come up 323 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: the bench, and then I think it was Tress. But 324 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: I think in the playoffs you're gonna see more Mark. 325 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: And you saw Mark kind of play those those minutes 326 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: when it mattered, right, especially at the beginning of the 327 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: fourth And he played a lot with eight tonight as well. 328 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: So again, like we can kind of harp on drumming 329 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: a lot, like he gets to he gets the main 330 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: kind of culprit every night. But I thought he was okay. 331 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: He was He was a big part of why the 332 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Sun's had trouble tonight in my opinion, like especially on 333 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: the board. So um, yeah, like I feel like he 334 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: did okay, he wasn't the He wasn't a huge, huge, 335 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: huge issue tonight. Yeah, I agree, And you know, I 336 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: was thinking a lot about this because we've we've seem 337 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: so much drumming that this year, uh without Lebron, And 338 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: we taught you and I talked right when the signing happened, like, hey, 339 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: we really can't judge the signing until Lebron comes back, 340 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, and for a lot of reasons, not just 341 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: what he does offensively, but because he raises the collective 342 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: i Q of everybody on the floor just by telling 343 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: people where to be and so on and so forth. 344 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: And and we still really haven't gotten to see it 345 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: because of Lebron's injuries. So like, you know, for him 346 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: to be to have nights like this where he's a 347 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: net positive before Lebron even comes around, I think is optimistic. 348 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: We're I think there were some Laker fans who were 349 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: way too optimistic about drum end upfront. And I think 350 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: I think we've been enlightened to the fact that he 351 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: has struggled in previous stance for good reason. Um. But 352 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like I think he 353 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: is a usable piece here, and just like you always 354 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: harp on when we do these podcasts, like he does 355 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: catch too much flak kind of is just like the 356 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: scapegoat for all their problems. When a lot of these nights. 357 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of a collective poor effort, you know what 358 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Yeah, for sure, And I guess we can 359 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: kind of keep going from Drummond the game from Caruso 360 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: tonight man seventeen points and then uh six, I don't 361 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: know if that's what he finished with. I just wrote 362 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: down seventeen point six assists and like all those reps, 363 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: remember when Lebron went down, they were giving it to 364 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Caruso and he was getting turnovers and uh, you know, 365 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: bad shots. Those reps eem to be paying dividends now 366 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: because he just looked so comfortable with the basketball, like 367 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: he knows where to go. He found uh I think 368 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: one of the biggest players of the night, and the 369 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: Sons were kind of making the run. Um he had 370 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: the ball at the top, there was nothing going on offense, 371 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: and then he kind of told West to cut and 372 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: then West guy like and one I think on Chris Paul, 373 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: and that kind of settled the game down. I think 374 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: they went back up at thirteen. But his ball handling 375 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: looked just so much better. It looks comfortable with taking 376 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: that midrange pull up to now right like the team 377 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: stag off and he's he's taking in aggressively and and comfortably. 378 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: So what what did you see from crustal town? I thought, 379 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: I thought he was great. Well, so the first thing 380 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: you said was the first thing that stood out to me, 381 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: which is something you and I talked about immediately after 382 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: Lebron's injury in that first couple of games where it 383 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: looked really bad. Um, you and I talked about how 384 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: excuse me, you and I talked about how you know, 385 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: these guys need reps in their new roles because they 386 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: were all all of a sudden slid up a few 387 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: levels in what they were being asked to to to do. 388 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: So it was it was bound to have like kind 389 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: of a bumpy road there at the beginning, And like 390 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: you said, all those reps appear to have paid off. 391 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: The you know, you touched on a lot of the 392 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: important details involving his passing and his pull up shooting. Um, 393 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: he's actually a smarter playmaker than I think we've given 394 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: him credit over the season. The big one that stood 395 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: out to me is, like, you know, Alexe Crusoe is 396 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: a big guard, Like, he's six ft six, really good athlete. 397 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: Um jumps better than most of the players on the 398 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: floor and So what I think he's kind of figured 399 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: out in the last week is that when he goes 400 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: to the rim, people have to foul him, or people 401 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: or like they're going to struggle to out jump him. 402 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: And there were a couple of places tonight where you 403 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: can tell he kind of is unlocked that, like, oh, 404 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: I have a little bit of a step here. I'm 405 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: just gonna go as fast as I can and jump 406 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: as high as I can and get into these bodies. 407 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: And I think, because I'm a good athlete, I'm gonna 408 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: get a lot of calls, or if they don't founld me, 409 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna finish. And he there in that second half, 410 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: he had several layups driving the basketball, and he had 411 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: several plays where he just dropped drew fouls because he 412 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: got the defense out of position. And and that's the thing, like, 413 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: use what your strengths are. Like if you're a kemba walker, 414 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: you need to be shifty, you need to get guys 415 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: off balance, you need to use your skill set. But 416 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: Alex Cruz was a great athlete at the point guard position, 417 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: and and he's unlocked that a little bit and used 418 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: it to his advantage to make up for some of 419 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: his skill deficiencies, and I think that was really smart. Yeah, 420 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: And like I wrote here, like uh Ac versus Chris Paul, 421 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: because like Chris Paul does a lot of those things 422 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: where he's like one of the smartest basketball players ever 423 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: as well. Right, his i Q was insane and like 424 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: they trusted him to be the one to kind of 425 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: chase him over screens and he's never gonna win, like 426 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: a who's right, right, Like when Chris Paul looks at 427 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: the ref and like they's never gonna He's never gonna 428 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: win those. He tried to win a few of those 429 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: and he got like his fourth and fifth foule. But 430 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: I thought he was just excellent tonight going around the 431 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: screens of Chris Paul, staying on his back contesting Chris 432 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Paul is amazing. He had a few mid range pull 433 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: ups in his face. I thought he was just incredible 434 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: on him tonight and that two way play man. And 435 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: again this is all I hate how to your radical 436 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: this is, But like if we can get this Caruso 437 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: with you know, Lebron back and a d with who 438 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: he is, it just changes um the ceiling and floor 439 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: of this team even higher. Because last I think I 440 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: said last year Crusoe walked in the playoffs as like 441 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: a thirty three point shooter and he hit timely ones 442 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But he's walking in this year as 443 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: at three point shooter, and he's taking them so confidently, 444 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: even in transition. There's a few that I whish like 445 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: he didn't shoot, but I just love the how confident 446 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: he's taking them. He gets him in the corner, if 447 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: he's open, he shoots it, and he hits big shots. 448 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: He had big ones in the first quarter as well. 449 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just cool to see his his offense 450 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: grow and we get something out of those games where 451 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: Lebron didn't play shoot died in play right, it feels 452 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: like we've got some reps for him and and I 453 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: guess we can kind of move as well the th 454 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: HD who like, I feel like this was a bad 455 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: THC game in overall, Like, but I think they need 456 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: I think they needed it, if that makes sense, Like 457 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: they needed someone to like where you can dribble and 458 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: create a shot and at least it wasn't a turnover. 459 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: He has a lot of creative, creative drives, but I 460 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: think he found um. I forgot who we found in 461 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: the corner late. I don't remember Phils West or KCP. Um, 462 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: what do you see from him? I thought, I thought 463 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: he had a he had a not not a good 464 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: game for him. But I think they needed like his 465 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: ball handling tonight. You know, I agree, I agree with you. 466 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: I think I think, uh, it takes away some of 467 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the absolute need to have guys like you know KCP 468 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: and Ben McLemore over dribbling and doing things that kind 469 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: of take them out of their skill set. Like you know, 470 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: KCP had a really good game tonight, I thought, and 471 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: it was because he was kind of slid back into 472 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: his proper role as a guy who's attacking off a 473 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: closeout and off ball. Um. You know, I've I've said 474 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: all there is to say really about th h T. 475 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought, I thought a couple of striking things. 476 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: I thought a couple of striking typical things happened with 477 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: him tonight. He Uh, he was one of the reasons 478 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: why UM campaign got going a little bit was his 479 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: lack of atteniveness defensively. Um there was a play where 480 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: off of a double team in the post where he 481 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: was wide open on the right wing. I think this 482 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: was actually the first half, and he just shot a 483 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: brick of a three that like went two ft over 484 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: the rim and went carrying off the backboard. I'm in 485 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: two songs. I had to listen to the Sun's broadcast, 486 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: and the Sun's broadcasters were like, whoa that was? That 487 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: was a bad miss anyway, Like he he his spacing 488 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: is going to be a legitimate concern in the playoffs series. 489 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: He's he's a guy that you don't have to guard 490 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: on the perimeter um. And and then just in general, 491 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: just consistent decision making, which I think is one of 492 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: the biggest reasons why Lebron is in such a good 493 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: playoff player in his career, is like he just hemorrhages 494 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: less possessions in the other team and more consistently will 495 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: will identify the best available shot, and that kind of 496 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: like little decision making on the margins makes such a 497 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: big difference. And so in a in a you know, 498 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: in in these playoff games, like two or three bad 499 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: decisions from th HT can can swing a series. And 500 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: and that to me is stuff that I've harped on 501 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: all season. I'm such a believer. He had another play 502 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: tonight that was like a superstar play he like split 503 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: a pick and roll and Sari was waiting for him 504 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: at the rim and he just did like a power 505 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: dribble right into Sarge's chest and starts like just caved 506 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: in and backed away, and then he had a wide 507 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: open lay up after It's like that's that's like, that's 508 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: like star level stuff. And so I'm I, you know, 509 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say the company line again here, which 510 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: is that I love th h T. I don't want 511 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: to see him in the playoff rotation. That's just my 512 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: kind of take on it. Yeah, Like I think that 513 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: first play that he came in, he left campaign open. 514 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, like that he's gonna get 515 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: in the rhythm and he and he absolutely did not. 516 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: I just love watching him drive though, right because you 517 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: can tell he just thinking in his head, like what 518 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: do I do? Like even on a Starge play he's 519 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: like driving, He's like, okay, I'm just gonna bully him 520 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: in the chest and at work that time the drive, 521 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: he'd be like, okay, let me three sixty dribble, spin 522 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: passed it to the corner, it goes out of the 523 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: bounds and he's like surprised. So yeah, I don't know, 524 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: but like just to move on from like THHD to 525 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: go on your point, like a guy who's probably a 526 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: little bit more reliable is like Wes Matthews, right. I 527 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: think it was cool to see him. Like again, like 528 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: these are guys that it feels like they're going on 529 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: like a linear curve. Rather they're improving at like a 530 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: linear rate like West Matthews now is like starting to 531 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: play good and consistent games. Get a good game I 532 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: think against Portland as well. Um, And and he's defending well, 533 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: like he's he's hitting shots. He had like a really 534 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: cool three off a d Um turning corner, turning the 535 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 1: corner and yeah, so so it's good to see him. Uh. 536 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: And like this seems like a playoff matchup that's going 537 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: to happen. It feels like to me, Um, this seems 538 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: like the likely scenario. Um for me, like my biggest 539 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: thing for this for this matchup, I wanted to do 540 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: this after the Clipper game, but it just didn't matter 541 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: because they didn't take it as serious. Um. What was 542 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: your biggest like takeaway as like a playoff matchup? Mine 543 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: is definitely the size. I guess is there anything else 544 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: that you saw that's like really glaring if these two 545 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: teams play playing the playoffs. Well, so a couple of things. 546 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: So first of all, no one can guard Anthony Anamos. 547 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: That that is that is the the absolutely terrifying thing 548 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: if you're a Phoenix Suns fan. Is no one on 549 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: that roster even remotely bothered Anthony Davis. Like there were 550 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: a couple of plays where even Jay Crowder opted for 551 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: a lot of ball pressure as a d was dribbling 552 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: further away from the basket, which is something that you 553 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: and I have talked about a lot that we don't 554 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: love Anthony Davis and that type of matchup. And even 555 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: then he was able to patiently just kind of wait 556 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: for Jay to gamble one way and then just kind 557 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: of spin off of him and go down the lane. 558 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: And he drew a couple of fouls that way, got 559 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: into the lane, and maybe there was another one where 560 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: he missed the layup, but Drummond was right there to 561 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: clean it up. Like he there was no one on 562 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: the roster that could guard him. So that's that's number one. 563 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: You're the most exciting thing about a playoff match up. 564 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: There is just the way that that can warp everything 565 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: in the way that the Suns have to to change 566 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: their defense. And then secondly, you know, I thought with 567 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: the Laker defense, you know, they did a really good 568 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: job of making things extremely difficult for for Booker and 569 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: Chris Paul while at the same time, like not leaving 570 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: such gaping openings on the back end that the younger 571 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: players on the roster were able to make them pay. Um. 572 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: You know, like they did a good job of closing 573 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: off the rotations quick enough so that you know, mediocre 574 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: to blow average playmakers off of the ball. Um, you know, 575 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: like Micail Bridges or whether it was you know, DeAndre 576 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: and catching the ball. There just wasn't anything available there. 577 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: And I thought that was really impressive. And the Laker 578 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 1: the Laker defense. I tweeted about this tonight, like I 579 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: was actually watching the Clippers game today, and I thought 580 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: to myself, like, you know, everyone's talking about this Knick's 581 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: defense and how it, you know, was making the Clippers struggle. 582 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: But that's what the Lakers look like when they're trying, 583 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: you know, that's what's so exciting, and and that's what 584 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: they did. That's what they did tonight. They just they 585 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: went through stretches where they were they were stifling and 586 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: everyone helps each other, and it was just it was 587 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: just really really fun to watch. And and I I 588 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: personally think that that just in and of itself makes 589 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: them so difficult to beat in a seven game series 590 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: and throw the throw in Lebron into that whole mess 591 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: and in the way that Anthony Davis warps all the 592 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: matchups and and and I think that as long as 593 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: they can get through the playing game, which is gonna 594 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: be tricky, um, you know, on account of the health problems. UM, 595 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: as long as they can get through that playing game, 596 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: I actually think that's a really good first round matchup 597 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: for the Lakers to kind of get their sea legs. Yeah, definitely. 598 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: And just watching tonight, like they put a Craig on 599 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: a D and I think Michail Bridges trying to switch 600 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: on him a few times as well. But I guess 601 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: those two would get the main kind of uh thing 602 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: on Lebron in a D, right, you know, in a series. 603 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering like where they go with the 604 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: UM and like, I guess my main takeaway tonight was 605 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: like they were able to take shots away from like 606 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: Devon Booker, Chris Paul while also limiting the three point attempts, right, 607 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: I think Penis had like thirteen three point attempts at 608 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: the half, and they average like thirty five thirty six um. 609 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: And then those the biggest things. They were able to 610 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: shut down their guards while also getting out to three 611 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: point shooters um. And that's how they gonna have to 612 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: defend in a series. And we saw why they can. 613 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: They can do that because a D was able to 614 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: play at play at his his level and oh I 615 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: with this, but yeah, yeah, like Laby, a D was 616 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: able to play at his generational defensive level and he's 617 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to in a series against them. And I 618 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: thought he was the biggest key ye because he was 619 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: able to switch on christ Ball, switch on Devon Booker 620 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: and really make them not even get shots up. And 621 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: I thought that was the biggest, biggest thing. I do 622 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: you have anything else from in this game tonight? Well, 623 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: just lastly about the defense, Like it's so cool the 624 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: way that when you really really shut down a team defensively, 625 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: they start to miss the open ones too, and uh 626 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: that like you could tell, like Devin Booker for most 627 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: of the game, he wasn't you know, like pump picking 628 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: a ghosts exactly, but you could see his aggression tone 629 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: way back as a result of the fact, like he 630 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: just felt uncomfortable throughout the game. And oh, use one example, 631 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: there was a play where he beat KCP backdoors in 632 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: the first half and KCP was just dead two rights 633 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: the Devin Booker's got it under the basket. KCP shorter 634 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: than him, and Devin Bookers can basically pick either side. 635 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: He can pump, fake and drop out whatever he wants 636 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: to do. But Montrese Harold was guarding I think it 637 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: was sorry it's but somebody in the corner, and Montrese 638 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Harold just like just in a in a great read, 639 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: just bailed on his man and came flying in and 640 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: and just swallowed up Devin Booker and he ended up 641 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: kicking it out. Actually the play actually ended, I think 642 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: in Jay crowd are drawing a foul on at three 643 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: point shot. But the point is is like even when 644 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: Devin Booker thought he had an easy look on KCP, 645 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: there came another another wave of the Laker defense to 646 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: throw him off, and then it gets to the point 647 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: where all of a sudden he will break free around 648 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: the eight ten foot line off of a couple of 649 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: dribbles in the counter and he'll miss like a ten 650 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: footer because he has no rhythm, because because he has 651 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable all night, and it just throws everything off. 652 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: And that's my favorite thing about what the Laker's identity 653 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: is is it's just like, you're not going to get 654 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: anything easy on us, and and if you're going to 655 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: beat us, you're gonna have to beat us just by 656 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: consistently making tough shots over the top of our guards. 657 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: Like that's how you're gonna have to beat us. Yeah, exactly. 658 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: And they were. They were everywhere tonight right, they were 659 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: switching trapping on the screen of roles that they didn't 660 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: allow Chris Paul and Devil Booker to really get anything going. 661 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: I think Chris Paul all his shots were tough in 662 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: my opinion, Like I didn't feel like, did you see 663 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: him get any easy looks? I thought all of his 664 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: shots were pretty contested, uh sa. Devin Booker had a 665 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: few good shots in the paint, but I thought for 666 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: him as well, they were all contested and they were 667 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: flying around. Um I think a d went to the 668 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: floor a little bit too many times from my life, 669 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: but but he set the tone, right, Like, his aggressiveness 670 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: on both ends kind of uh, kind of set the 671 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: tone here tonight and they got a huge win. Um Like, 672 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if this really matters in terms of 673 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: like standing, because again, I feel like we're pretty locked in. 674 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: But I feel like they're they're starting to build some rhythm, right, 675 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: some build some build some habits that are good and 676 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: and it's good to see like them being serious about 677 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: these games, starting to treat them as like playoff reps 678 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: because they definitely weren't doing that before. And and also 679 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: like I guess the last guy had written down here 680 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: is like Ben mcilmore that you've been you've been behind 681 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: for a while. And again he does I'm gonna win 682 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: you over eventually with him, Yeah, he's never met a 683 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: shot that he doesn't like, right, like something some of 684 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: the shots are just like he touches the ball and 685 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: he's like okay. And I feel like that that's what 686 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: they've told him as well, right like, hey, like when 687 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 1: you get the ball, just shooted, don't think about playmaking, 688 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: don't think about trying to really make too many reads 689 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: and and that's his that's his job there, And I 690 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: think it has more positive than negatives. But he did 691 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: take a few wild shots and I thought like he 692 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: defended okay tonight, like it wasn't great yet, a few 693 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: off off the ball things there, but yeah, he was. 694 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: He was really good. And the team, it feels like 695 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: they're getting getting deep. The guys are getting in rhythm. 696 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: They can get Shrewder back just for these last few games. 697 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: And and Lebron we'll see, hopefully he comes back pretty soon. Um. 698 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: I feel like they're on the right rhythm. No one 699 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: wants to play them. That feels pretty key. I think 700 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: this was a big game for the Suns. I think 701 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: they wanted the one seed as well, and I feel 702 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: like he just took it to him right. Yeah, So 703 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: real quickly on macklamore before you start taking guests, is uh, 704 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: you know a couple of things. You know, we've worried 705 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: about his defense a lot, but as I've always said, 706 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: like you there, you don't have to necessarily worry about 707 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: that in individual defense within the scheme of the Lakers, 708 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: as long as you play hard in the rotations. And 709 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: there were actually a couple of plays there in the 710 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: second half where Devin Booker got mcklemore on an Island 711 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: and the Lakers just sent the Lakers just sent it 712 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: double and they were able to make Booker give it 713 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: up and rotate back out and and nothing was open. 714 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: And and to me, that was when I saw that happen, 715 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well here you go. This is 716 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: the point is like within the Laker defense, you don't 717 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: have to necessarily be able to guard everybody. You just 718 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: have to play your role, which is if you can't 719 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: guard a guy, you're gonna have to be able to 720 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: exist in the chaos of the rotations. And then when 721 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: you are off the ball, you have to hold up 722 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: your end of that bargain. And and that's what makes 723 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: it work. And then as far as his green light, 724 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think his green light, it manifests in 725 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: more than just him making shots at manifests in spacing. 726 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: And you know, when when the when the other coaches 727 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: on the white board in the locker room before the 728 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: game down, you cannot leave this guy open because he's 729 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: going to shoot it. If you give him an inch 730 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: of space, that changes the way that that help defender 731 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: has to play. And to me, there there's a lot 732 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: of advantage to that. I you know, I'm not necessarily 733 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: saying he should be in the closing line up. So 734 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying he should start or anything ridiculous 735 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: like that. I just think that he very easily fits 736 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: a role on this team that I think works. Yeah, 737 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: he's like pretty much the only guy that than like 738 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: k CP right that that can get hot in a quarter, 739 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: that can hit like four threes and like a five 740 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: six minute stretch. And I think they need that for 741 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: a team that really, especially right now, that's struggling to 742 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of score, especially in the half court. They need 743 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: a guy that can just get hot and he doesn't 744 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: need that much space. So once he gets one to go, 745 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: you can tell his confidence just goes up, right, and 746 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: once he kids want, he's going to take the other 747 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: one as soon as he as soon as he catches it. Um, 748 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: do you have anything else from tonight? Before I kind 749 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: of bring some people up here. Let's get some questions, man, 750 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm ready, all right, get your request in. I will 751 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: see how many we can kind of get to. But 752 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 1: get some get your requestions if you want to come 753 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: up here and speak. Let's start with I think Tony 754 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: was first, by the way, quote from Jovan Buja that 755 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: we were tagged in Anthony Davis on his confidence in 756 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: Lebron James getting back to playing like Lebron James quote 757 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: what I saw from Lebron today? He'll be fine. He'll 758 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: be fine. End quote. That's good. That's good. It's very good. Tony, 759 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: what's up? Can you hear us? Hello? Can you hear me? 760 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: I can hear you? What's going on? Hey? What's up? 761 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: So for this question, this is gonna be based on 762 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: the assuming we get the seventh seed, right, so, um, 763 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: the path is probably gonna go through, uh, the three 764 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: best teams in my opinion in the West of Sons, Clippers, Jazz. Right, 765 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: and because the like the Lakers are going to have 766 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: like very low continuity going into the playoffs, what do 767 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: you guys think they can do to like adjust to 768 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 1: that and um take control of series so that like 769 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: they avoid going down too far before they get to 770 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: figure out their opponent. If you understand what I'm trying 771 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: to say, Well, first of all, it's still in play. 772 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking up the standings, like it's still in play 773 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: for Denver to get the three seed. Yes, don't check here. Um, yeah, 774 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: they're a game away and they have the time breaker 775 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: m hmm, yeah, yeah, So I tend to think that, 776 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to the difficulty of the 777 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: playoff run, the most important thing is not messing around. 778 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: And this is something that the Lakers did a really 779 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: good job of last year, uh in the sense that 780 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: they closed out their opponents in five gamers each time. 781 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: So it made it so that there was additional rest 782 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: because the physical wear and tear of the postseason will 783 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: manifest if you keep getting locked into these long series. 784 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: I mean, the perfect example of that is the two 785 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen heat who got roped into a seven gamer 786 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: with the Pacers and then you could just tell that 787 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: they were physically worn out when when they got into 788 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: the Spurs and then in that series dragged out. So 789 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: my thing is like, let's say you face the Suns 790 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: in the first round. You're better than them. Don't let 791 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: that get extended, you know, like physically mal them. Take 792 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: care of business, and that series in five, and then 793 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: by the time you're facing the Clippers or the or 794 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: the Nuggets wherever it is that you have to face 795 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: in the next round, you have four or five days 796 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: off to get your legs back, and then at that 797 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: point it's just argued a better team as long as 798 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: you're not getting physically worn down, it's just about whether 799 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: or not you're a better team. So I don't worry 800 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: so much about the playoff path as much as I 801 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: do about them not getting roped into great long series 802 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: that that physically wear them down, especially with how fragile 803 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: a D can be. Yeah, I think they just need 804 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: to really get through that first round, right, get Lebron's 805 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: legs under him, a D starting to get his legs 806 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: on them, but like, just get a full series, Um, 807 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: get some confidence at the wins in that first playoff series, 808 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: and I think they'll be fine. Um, Lebron has that 809 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: tendency to lose game ones, which I mean I can 810 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: totally see happening again this year. And that's why I'm 811 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: little That's why I'm a little bit like worried about 812 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: the playing game. I don't like that we get just 813 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: one game to kind of figure out one team. But 814 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 1: if you can get through that, and I'm not really 815 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: worried about that first round series, I think they'll sit down. 816 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: They'll they'll be able to like look through look at 817 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: a team fully through a whole seven game series. Um, 818 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: they can adjust the way they want to and really 819 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: put the foot down. This team is really versatile when 820 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: they're healthy, right, they have all these kind of pieces 821 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: they can kind of plug and play around Lebron and 822 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: a d And I think if they can just get 823 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: through that first series, which I don't think it will 824 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: be easy. I mean, they beat Phoenix tonight, but I 825 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: think that's still gonna be a hell of a series. 826 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: In round one, Lebron just jumping right back in. Um 827 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: So I think you just get through that. I think 828 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: they'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. All right, Yeah, 829 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: thank you, thanks man, I apportunately coming over. I think 830 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: uh Brett was next. They can get your request and 831 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: I'll see how I maybe we can get to you tonight. 832 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, just get your and can get your request 833 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: in Roger's playing hurt tonight guy as he lost. Ye 834 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: apologies apologies from my voice bread, can you hear us? Yeah? 835 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: What's up, guys, what's going on it? Hey? Um So 836 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: my question is markis Morris got a d NP today? 837 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: I just want to know what you guys think his 838 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: role is going to be down the strate, especially now 839 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: that the possibility of a Marcosol Montrose Harold playing the 840 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: four um type of line up starting to come, but 841 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: what do we expect from Markief coming forward? So I 842 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: thought it was pretty matchup specific. I think the Lakers 843 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: knew that that Phoenix was a team that, outside of 844 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: DeAndre at and was very thin on the front line, 845 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: and they were under the impression that going big would 846 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: give them a chance to win a game that they 847 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: thought they really needed to win, not just for the standings, 848 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: but for the confidence of that team. Um. The remaining 849 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: schedule for the Lakers is relatively achievable. UM that I 850 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: think this game against New York in a couple of 851 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: nights is actually gonna be the toughest one they have 852 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: in that group. So tonight was kind of a little 853 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: bit of a must win for the Lakers, And so 854 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, they went big to try to win 855 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: the matchup. And I think when they get into matchups 856 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: with teams like you know that are a little bit 857 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: more switchy, that they need spacing more, I think you'll 858 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: see a little bit more marks when they need when 859 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: they need to go small. Um. But at the end 860 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: of the day, like I think Frank has shown that 861 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: he's gonna play the center rotation based on matchups, and 862 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: tonight was a night where that I think he thought 863 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: they had a chance to bully Phoenix. Yeah, And I 864 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: feel like Mark Kief was just like he was a 865 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: part of like not playing with Treads. I guess like 866 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: that's and we touched on a little earlier, like I 867 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: just didn't want to see them to kind of play together, 868 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: and he was the odd man out tonight. But I 869 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: think like you'll play in some matches some matchups as well, 870 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: especially when his three point shooters going three point shooting 871 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: is going. Um, I'd like to see him next to 872 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 1: this all I guess as like that four or five 873 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: um sometimes as well. But tonight he just didn't play 874 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: because they went to that. They finally went to the 875 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: treads and disol minutes um that we end that we 876 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: were begging for. Um. I haven't checked like the plus 877 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: minus on that yet tonight, but it just felt like 878 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: it looked good. It looked good from the eye test. 879 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: They had some things to work out, but I thought 880 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: that Atlanta played really well. We'll see if they go 881 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: to it against the Knicks were a little bit more 882 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: of like the kind of bruising team. Un So we'll 883 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 1: see if they play how the rotations were from there. 884 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: A lot of it has to do with the way 885 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: that the game is being officiated to like I you know, 886 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: there were a lot of dude, you you would not 887 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: believe that how much the Phoenix broadcast was complaining about officiating. 888 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: It was like the the entire night just nonst Like 889 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: at one point the Phoenix broadcasters literally said they were 890 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: playing five on eight. And I'm not joking that would 891 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: happen in their version of the broadcast. But in my opinion, 892 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: the reason I always say this, so I've said this. 893 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, in this podcast format, you know, dozens of 894 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: times the more physically aggressive team gets more calls. And 895 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: it seems counterintuitive because you would think the team that's 896 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,959 Speaker 1: being physically aggressive is fouling, but that's not the case. 897 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: The team that is being physically aggressive usually gets fouled 898 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: because that's how the lazier, less physical team tries to 899 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,479 Speaker 1: compensate for their lack of physicality, and the refs noticed 900 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: that and they usually reward that team. And I thought 901 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: tonight the Lakers bullied the Sons into fouling them a lot. Uh. 902 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: But and that has to do with you know, again, 903 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: if the if the game is being officiated a different 904 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: way and the Lakers size of being is isn't manifesting 905 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: in a way that they can really do anything with, 906 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: then hey, you go small to try Mark Keith. You 907 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: go with more shooting and see if you can't give 908 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: better driving lanes or whatever it is that you want 909 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: to do. But again, the Lakers have flexibility, and I 910 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: think that that's actually an advantage in the playoff series, 911 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily a bad thing. And we said just with 912 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: the refs things, I thought it was funny watching this 913 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: game and I'm just thinking about, like in a playoff series, 914 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: havnna watch like Chris Paul Devin book or trying to 915 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: draw those like but they're just driving and like you're 916 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: just sliding with them and they just throw the ball 917 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: up and they get the call. You know, those kind 918 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: of calls are just really frustrating just to watch through 919 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: like a full for the game in the game, and 920 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: Chris Paul is really good good at that as well, 921 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: right where you'll just fall, like you'll back into the 922 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: guy walking up the core and you'll draw a foul 923 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're in the penalty. So 924 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a game within the game. Um, 925 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: looking at that, I thought that the rest it was 926 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: a weirdly officiated game. I thought in the first half 927 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: there was a lot of feet though tonight to like, 928 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: I know, a lot of them were fouls. It just 929 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: it just felt like a really slow, non rhythm game. 930 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: And maybe that's just how the playoffs are going to be. 931 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: If you're more physical and you're just like banging down low, 932 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: that's how that's how it go. Probably mm hmmp I agree. 933 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: Any else for us? Brett, No, that was it. Thanks 934 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: for having me. Thanks for man than the general attics. 935 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people wanted more. A 936 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: lot of people want an event. The other night, it 937 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 1: looks like a little bit more of a positive vibe tonight. Yeah, General, 938 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: are you there? No, can you guys hear me? What's 939 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: going on? Man? What's up? Man? Thanks for bringing me on. 940 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: I been listening to the pod wild a lot of time, 941 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 1: a lot of fun while watching not watching to listen 942 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: to it. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks. My question or comment things 943 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: is kind of focused on lineups and what Vocal might 944 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: try to do heading into the playoffs for the lack 945 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: of continuity, so you know, Denni's coming back potentially with 946 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: COVID and then combined with Caruso over especially the last 947 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: like two months, but also just two two years in 948 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: the league now kind of looks like he can be 949 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: like a starting caliber player without necessarily playing starter caliber 950 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: starter caliber minutes. Did that makes sense? So I was thinking, 951 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, doesn't make sense for Caruso to keep the 952 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: starting job and for Dennis to do what Jason said 953 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: like the beginning of the year and come off the 954 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: bench kind of set the tone on defense for the 955 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: bench unit. And also just you know, look to score relentlessly, 956 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: like you know with with mar and i'm our you know, 957 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: trust Drummond on the bank bank you know, and sort 958 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: of matches. So I think I'm a big believer in 959 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: giving a giving shooter a chance to be very aggressive 960 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,479 Speaker 1: in minutes where Lebron and maybe are one of them 961 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: are off the floor. Typically the best way to do that, 962 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: uh is by bringing a guy off the bench. But 963 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: you can accomplish that by staggering and honestly man like, 964 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: as much as I'd like to say, like, hey, bring 965 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: shooter off the bench, like he's earned that starting spot. 966 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 1: He's been really good this year, He's defended extremely well. 967 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: His playmaking has taken a massive leap, especially in the 968 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: last month or two. I I I think Shrewder deserves 969 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: the spot. The only thing that will get tricky. I 970 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: don't know if he's built up some bad blood in 971 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: the organization, uh, with his recklessness surrounding Covid and his 972 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: absence at this point in the season. But I can't 973 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: speak to that. That's all speculation, I I. But then 974 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like when it comes 975 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: to their best lineups, I do think it's fair to 976 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: point out that Shrewder size can be a problem and 977 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: there will be teams out there that will relentlessly attack 978 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: shooter or for being a six foot relatively fan guard. 979 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: And you can put lineups as the Lakers out there 980 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: that have Caruso, you know, KCP, Kuzma, Lebron a d 981 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: that are a little more switchable, a little uh, a 982 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: bit more stout physically at every position and give yourself 983 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better chance in specific matchups. Uh. 984 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: And I'm super stoked about how well Caruso has played 985 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: and him getting so much better makes those lineups a 986 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,479 Speaker 1: lot more exciting. But man, Dennis has been really good 987 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: this year, And I mean I can't. I can't like 988 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: look at that dude in the face and be like, hey, 989 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: you're you belong on the bench like he's been. He's 990 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: been very clearly the third best player this year, and 991 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: he carried them for a long stretch here with Lebron 992 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: and a D out. Yeah, and Caruso is going to 993 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: close a lot of games, right, Like, I'm not really 994 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: worried about whether he starts or it comes off the bench. 995 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm shooter has been great defensively well. To see how 996 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: he comes back. I think he's gonna have to get 997 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: his conditioning back. So I'm like, I'm okay, maybe he 998 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,959 Speaker 1: comes off the bench that first game he comes back, 999 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: but he'll be a starter. Like his defense has been 1000 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: too good. I think earlier before the season started, we 1001 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: said maybe he'll come off the bench to be that 1002 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: plug score, but his defense is just too good. And 1003 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: then you get all the ball handling, you get the 1004 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: offensive creation, not only worries like just the timing like 1005 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: they just not I've had the reps together, right, Lebron, 1006 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: a D and Shrewder still only played like twenty something 1007 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 1: games together. It's even less if you have the sling 1008 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: of it even less if you and none I think 1009 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: with Drummond together, right, So that's my only concern here 1010 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: is that just the reps. But I think that's why 1011 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: that first round is so important to me, Like it's 1012 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: just they can just get through that. I think like 1013 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: they'll be able to just really get on a run here. Um, 1014 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: those guys just need some games together, some high level situations. 1015 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I think Shrewder should should definitely start 1016 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: when he comes back. I think he's, like you said, Jaze, 1017 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: he's earned it. He's played really well, he's had a 1018 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: Greek season. Um, his three point shooting also starting to 1019 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: come come around. It sucks that this happened at this 1020 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 1: time because I feel like you were starting to find 1021 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: a groove, like a really nice mix between being aggressive 1022 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: and being a shock creator. And it just this is 1023 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: just out of the season and stuff like it's gone though. 1024 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: Two steps forward, one step back kind of thing. But he's, yeah, 1025 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: he's he's definitely gonna be the starter when he comes back. Agree, 1026 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: So I guess I don't really have all of this 1027 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: request Well yeah, but more people, if you want to 1028 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: request getting you don't have asked the question. Just bring 1029 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: up an idea or anything. Um, George, can you hear me? 1030 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: Ge are you there? I think I can hear him. 1031 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: You go, George, can y'all hear me? Yeah? Here you are? 1032 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? Lost him again? Request back? I'll 1033 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: get you up here. Let's see. I'll just like I guess, 1034 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: while I'm waiting for a George's request back, I'll just 1035 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 1: read this quote real quick. UM shout out Kelly. She 1036 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: she shared it with me. Um. Frank said he liked 1037 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 1: the market treadsparing. I guess they were a minus nine tonight, 1038 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: which it just didn't feel that he must have listened 1039 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: to our locker room because we were talking about that 1040 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. But one thing I wanted to ask, 1041 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't think Keith planned. Don't know if it was 1042 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: health related or maybe a riscause I know he's been struggling. 1043 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: But do you guys like what they did with the 1044 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: center rotation? And because I thought Keith would be good 1045 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: for this matchup, So just general thoughts on that we 1046 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit earlier. I think the 1047 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 1: Lakers saw this as a bit of a must win 1048 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 1: for any of their chances to try to get out 1049 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: of the plane and the sun's outside of DeAndre Aton 1050 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: are very thin on the front line. You know, they're 1051 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: they've got big, switchy wings, but you know, crowd is 1052 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: a bit short. You know, Bridges and Kim Johnson are 1053 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: both very thin. You know. Sorry, it isn't very mobile 1054 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: and he's not exactly a defensive stalwart. They lack that 1055 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: interior presence and I think Frank went all in on 1056 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: trying to bully them. And if you look at the 1057 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: lineups tiny he basically played two centers for most of 1058 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: the game. If you count a D a center, there's 1059 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot of a D and Drummond, and then a 1060 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: D and Mark and then Mark and Trez and Tres 1061 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: and drum and it was just like a vicious cycle 1062 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 1: of Actually, I don't think Tres and drum and play tonight, 1063 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: but they they just always had two bigs on the floor. 1064 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: And I think that was a purposeful attempt to just 1065 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: physically main handle Phoenix, And honestly, I thought, strategically, at 1066 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: least for tonight, that it worked really well. Yeah, it's 1067 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: funny because we did like a Son's preview, right, I 1068 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: think the last spaces I can't remember, but um, I 1069 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 1: think we said Tress could play because they play with 1070 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: Sorry as the backup five usually, and even tonight they 1071 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 1: actually went away from that. They went with Kaminski first, 1072 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: he was ahead of him in the rotation. But I 1073 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 1: still think that's a guy that Tras can play against 1074 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: right commits. He is not going to really mean he's 1075 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: a good shooter, but he's not gonna really kill you 1076 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: in the post, and the trust can really go at him, 1077 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: go through his chest. And yeah, I thought that was 1078 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: a reason. Again, all these centers just feel matchup dependent 1079 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: to me, Like eight is gonna hopefully play the five 1080 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 1: when it matters because I was gonna play hopefully more 1081 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 1: of the minutes and then drum in Tres even keep. 1082 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,760 Speaker 1: They're all kind of matchup. So I like what they did. Again. 1083 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: Vogel coach and I has a playoff game. I thought 1084 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: this was like the first maybe against Denver as well, 1085 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: he did a little bit, but like tonight, I feel 1086 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: like the really first one that he coached, Like, okay, 1087 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: I want to win this game, and the center minutes 1088 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: kind of match match that. Yeah, because he he pulled 1089 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: he put market and first got off the bench and 1090 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: pulled Drummond right away. I know Drummond was in foul trouble, 1091 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: but I like to see that because he wasn't really 1092 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: doing as much last game. So yeah, yeah, I agree 1093 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: chasing you anything else on that, I'm good man. I 1094 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: agree with you guys. All right, Thank you boys. Joy 1095 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: is always see you Tuesday, Yes, sir. Next, it's a 1096 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: six eight something. I six eight on a good day. 1097 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that's his real name, but what's up? No, 1098 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: the real name, the real name is Baylor. But I 1099 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: just I have I have two questions for you guys. 1100 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? Well? All right, Well, one of the 1101 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: questions is, um, do the Lakers, you know, go with 1102 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: the guys that they went with last year in the playoffs? 1103 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Drumming is a new addition guy, but 1104 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: I mean other than him, those guys that was with 1105 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: you in the trenches for those three series, Um, do 1106 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: you go with those same guys? Because I would think 1107 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: those guys like obviously like still like you know, all 1108 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: the sets and everything that they use getting into their 1109 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: plays of the ship. You know, more than that, it's 1110 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: just chemistry, man, especially with their lack of cont duty 1111 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: that they've had this year. Like I I I think 1112 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: that he'll still be very I don't want to say experimental, 1113 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: but I think you'll still see a lot of new 1114 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: stuff in the in the early games of the series. 1115 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: But make no mistake, dude, if it's first round Phoenix 1116 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 1: Series tied at two fourth quarter, close game, you're gonna 1117 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of Lebron, a d k CP, Kusma, 1118 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: and Cruz. So I think that I think that you know, 1119 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: when the ship hits the fan for lack of a 1120 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: better term, that they're going to default is something that 1121 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of reps with, just because it's 1122 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: going to give them their best chance to win in 1123 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: those super high leverage moments. Yeah. And I think I 1124 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: was looking at the lineup data that find my in 1125 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: line up data, those dudes haven't even played I think, 1126 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes together this season. So those all those 1127 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: guys who are like um in the bubble, Uh, those guys, 1128 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 1: I think I can pull it up here. Um. Yeah, 1129 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 1: those dudes have played eight minutes together this season. The Lebron, Davis, KCP, Crusoe, Kuzma, 1130 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: those dudes who were in the bubble who won the 1131 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: title eight minutes together. So they haven't really got to 1132 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: see it, but yeah, I think I think they can 1133 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: go to it in the bubble. I mean, not in 1134 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, but we just have not seen 1135 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: them really recreate that that that line up again this year, 1136 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of that had to do with health, 1137 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: but also they're just not playing that lineup. But hopefully 1138 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: they'll go to it in the playoffs. Also, like I 1139 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: think Braun at or because he said he wasn't going 1140 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: to be up, I think eighty or seventy percent, he's 1141 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 1: still better than um, you know, probably your second option 1142 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 1: on whoever team, like whatever stars you know, that person 1143 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: or help maybe even that star. Lebron is still not 1144 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: bad um. But I know, like when it's back is 1145 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: against the wall, like one of the Lakers that ever, 1146 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: just go to a lineup just him at the point 1147 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: guard and just about cheese and everything, you know, but 1148 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: you know probably not I running more is at like 1149 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: the five and just having like Brin at the one 1150 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,919 Speaker 1: and just you know, just killing everybody because you can't 1151 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: guard everybody. So Lebron just penetrating. Man, just he just 1152 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: gonna kill you. Every time. They did a lot of 1153 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 1: that in the postseason and one of the big reasons 1154 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: why is that Keith was just shooting so well. Uh, 1155 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: And you know, Mark Keith, I think he's he's a 1156 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: little bit more mobile this year, but last year he 1157 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: wasn't great defending out on the perimeter. But where he's 1158 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: always been a good defenders as a post up defender, 1159 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: he's just really good at at holding his ground and 1160 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: defending without fouling and making dudes settled for fadeaways over 1161 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: the top of him, and so it all just kind 1162 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: of worked. But you know, this season, it's hard to say, uh, 1163 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: with with how deep they are at the guard position, 1164 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: that they won't like go with a more traditional a 1165 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: D at the five type of lineup where instead of 1166 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: Mark Keith kind of playing default five, they'll just up 1167 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 1: like a third guard on the floor or something along 1168 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 1: those life. That's just what I personally expect. I only 1169 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: said Morris at the at the five because I know 1170 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: a D doesn't like banging down there with the big guys, 1171 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 1: so he's so much better as a help defender. You know, 1172 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: he could do that more playing the four, So I 1173 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: just figured you'd put him there and just put a 1174 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: shooter at the five, you know, And he will. I mean, 1175 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: he played sixty of his minutes at the five in 1176 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs. He'll he'll do it when it matters, And 1177 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: that's I think you talked about it, like you just 1178 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: give Lebron a D and a bunch of spacing, um, 1179 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of shooters, and that's pretty much a recipe 1180 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: percess success. That's why the five might have works so 1181 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: well is because he's not just uh, not only can 1182 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: he shoot, but even on the defensive end, he's able 1183 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: to help recover and he's one of the best rim 1184 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 1: protectors in the league. And you can do all that 1185 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: from the five, in my opinion, even easier than when 1186 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: he's at the four, when he has another five five 1187 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: behind them. One thing before before you guys go, because 1188 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 1: I know other people would like to talk to you, guys, 1189 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,919 Speaker 1: but also to like, no other team like it really 1190 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: has that, like the the luxury of having two bigs 1191 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: because you know, I mean, Bron is kind of he's big. 1192 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: He's a freight train, right, so I just you know, 1193 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: Brooklyn out in the East, they don't have that, and 1194 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: nobody out west has the luxury of doing something like that, 1195 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: like even the Clippers, you know, like they don't have 1196 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: anything like that. You can't just do that with those guys. 1197 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,760 Speaker 1: So I just think the Lakers have a better advantage 1198 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 1: when help you. Yeah, I mean the the We talked 1199 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,439 Speaker 1: a little bit about this earlier in the in the Pond, 1200 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about pick and roll coverages. But the 1201 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: crazy thing with Lebron and a D is a four 1202 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: or five combo is they can switch any pick and 1203 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: roll that involves them as a big man. So it 1204 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 1: takes the primary action that the vast majority of teams 1205 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 1: around the league run to get their best looks and 1206 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: just effectively makes it obsolete because it's like call up 1207 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: your center and you're gonna get a D involved into play, Like, 1208 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: good luck with that, or you're gonna get Lebron James 1209 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: involved in the play. And then and then they can 1210 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: also put Lebron in a D on your two best players, 1211 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 1: which makes them ineffectual as their own screen partners. And 1212 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: so I tend to think that, uh, that that is 1213 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: their biggest ace in the whole is more so than 1214 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 1: Lebron and Ada offensively, is just what they can do 1215 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: defensively as appearing on the floor, especially when you put 1216 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: them with guards like Caruso and KCP, who are always 1217 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,720 Speaker 1: in the right spot at the right time and putting 1218 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: those extra effort plays, and especially with the player that 1219 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 1: Kuzma has become. I mean, make no mistake about it, 1220 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: it's hard to it's hard to visualize with how crazy 1221 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: and chaotic this season has been, but when healthy, this 1222 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: Laker team is considerably better than last year. They the 1223 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: moves on the margins are better, Caruso significantly better, KCP 1224 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,760 Speaker 1: is more or less the same, Kuzma is like twice 1225 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: as good as was last year. There are a lot 1226 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: of reasons why this team should, when healthy, be better 1227 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,399 Speaker 1: than last year. We just haven't really gotten to see 1228 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 1: what that looks like as a result of health. And 1229 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: um that's why you should feel optimistic about this group, 1230 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: if they can regain their form in time to uh 1231 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: face up with the real, real competitive teams with them 1232 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 1: at that top tier of the league, like the Clippers, 1233 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: like the Nets and so on and so forth. Yeah, 1234 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 1: I guess the only last thing you said the Clippers 1235 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: don't have anyone to match up with that. I don't 1236 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: think anyone in the league really does. I think the 1237 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: Lakers that's their ace that they can go against against 1238 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: anyone right that Lebron a D four or five matchup. 1239 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: Maybe Johannest have the five with the Bucks. Other than that, 1240 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure any other combo that can really 1241 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: go with that. So yeah, that's there. That's what they're 1242 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: betting on. The health the role players hopefully. Look, we 1243 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: talked an offseason. This is one of the most talented 1244 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: Laker teams that we've seen, right, just from a pure, 1245 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: pure like talent level. Now it's like all theoretical, we 1246 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: haven't really got to see it. But that's what they're 1247 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: betting on. Health and that those two just being able 1248 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: to power them through the playoffs. I appreciate you, man. 1249 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: Thanks all right, let's see we get merge up here. 1250 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: My friend marriage was going on again if if you 1251 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: just got down. Apologies for my voice. I loved my 1252 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: voice on Saturday night, and I'm not sure where I went, 1253 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 1: but I hope you will find him for the next places. 1254 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: Apologize emerge. What's going on? Man? Wha you ar hearing me? Yeah? 1255 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: I can hear you, he man? What's going on? Two things? 1256 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: One point one thing sort of a comment about the 1257 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: playing the sun. So I think this game kind of 1258 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: solidified for me that I think we can kind of 1259 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: use that first front series against the Suns as not 1260 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: having to have Lebron go full Lebron like we were 1261 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: kind of worried about having having him having to go 1262 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: too fast, too quick come off of that injury. I 1263 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: think you can kind of lean on Ad a little 1264 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: bit as a as the you know, the top option 1265 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: there and the flat sort of dominating in that five 1266 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: six games four or five six game series against the Suns. 1267 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: The governor a week, we can have two weeks of 1268 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: resting and then playing the Clippers or whoever we would 1269 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: playing this around. Uh, the bank can really come out. 1270 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what do you think about something like that? 1271 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: Agree with you? Like the you're you're right in the 1272 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: sense that Lebron doesn't have to be Lebron Lebron until 1273 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: he's toe to toe with Kauai, in total toe with 1274 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. That part I agree with you, But everything 1275 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: else has to be right because teams like a team 1276 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: like Phoenix can beat the Lakers if Lebron is and 1277 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: a D is not quite himself and the defense isn't sharp, 1278 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: and so what he's exciting is a D looks like 1279 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: he's getting close to and the defense looks great because 1280 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: now I can confidently say that Lebron easing his way 1281 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: back from an injury is enough to win that matchup. 1282 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: But make no mistake, Lebron is gonna have to look 1283 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Durant in the face 1284 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: later on this postseason, and he's gonna have to go 1285 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: head to head with those guys, and so he does 1286 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: eventually need to get back to uh pretty close to 1287 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,080 Speaker 1: the to the real deal. Um, but I'm with you 1288 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: that that he doesn't have to right away if he 1289 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: catches a team like the Suns in the first round. Yeah, 1290 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,439 Speaker 1: MARRIAGE agree with you. That's why I like that first 1291 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: round is so important for me. It's just to get them, 1292 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: get those sea legs under him, get that, get his 1293 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: conditioning up. A lot of I think the Laker Twitter 1294 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: doctors as well. Um, they said, like he's probably not 1295 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: gonna be right until the second round anyway, just with 1296 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: how those injuries work. So yeah, you can just get 1297 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 1: to look the Suns like, I know we dominate in 1298 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: them tonight, but like you don't win that many games 1299 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,919 Speaker 1: without being really good like that, They're a really good team. 1300 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: I think Lebron is still gonna have to be maybe 1301 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: not a percent but like at his ninety to beat 1302 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: the Suns. In my opinion, UM, a D can really 1303 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: work inside. This is a great series for a D. 1304 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 1: I don't think DeAndre and can guard him. Ar Sorridge, 1305 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: Craig all those guys are not a matchup for a D. 1306 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: It's just I still think we need Lebron shot creation 1307 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: though um we saw tonight. I think Caruso did a 1308 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 1: nice job tonight. I just don't think in a seven 1309 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 1: game series that's that's enough to create enough points, um 1310 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: to kind of generate enough points to beat this Phoenix 1311 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: team without Lebron shock creation. But I don't think he 1312 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: has to be that full forty fifteen fifteen and night 1313 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 1: that look like you need in the in the finals, right, Yeah, 1314 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: the main thing it's not that lebraunch just like Layoff. 1315 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: But like you were saying, he doesn't have to be 1316 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: the guy who doesn't have to go up against Kawhi 1317 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Lard and Kevin Durrett, I'm more worried about him, like 1318 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, having to go from very clear really fast 1319 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: and like metaphorically tweaking something if you kind of able 1320 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: to ramp it in that first round in that second round, 1321 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of right. It's an ideal matchup to have 1322 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 1: a D got a team like the Sons, who, Yeah, 1323 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: they are a great team and they've been really good 1324 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: this year, but I think a d is this kind 1325 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: of the ultimate matchup nightmare for them, especially because they 1326 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: don't really have that guy who can match up with 1327 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 1: a d um And the second thing I wanted to 1328 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: say is what do you guys think the playoff rotation? 1329 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: How many how many people do you think you have 1330 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: to cut down to? And ultimately, who do you think 1331 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: are the ones who are locked in who are definitely 1332 01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: playing every single series as opposed to the one too. 1333 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 1: It might be on and off as the matchups going. 1334 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: We've talked about this a few times over the over 1335 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. I think that it's going to 1336 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: be matchup dependent. I think you might see certain players 1337 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: go dormant against one team and then all of a 1338 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: sudden be leaned on heavily against another team. A great 1339 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: example of that is going to be like if you 1340 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: play Yokich in one round and you play you know, 1341 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Zoobots in another round, it's going to be a different 1342 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: type of center rotation. But at the end of the day, 1343 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 1: like I think, I think it's gonna come down to 1344 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: figuring out how many of the guards play. I tend 1345 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: to think guys like th h T and Markis are 1346 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 1: going to fall out of the rotation and you're gonna 1347 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 1: see a lot more of Wesley Matthews, and you're gonna 1348 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: see a lot more of Uh. I think. I think 1349 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Montres is another guy who might fall to the to 1350 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: the edge of the rotation in the postseason. But honestly, 1351 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: man I I I don't know how you even could 1352 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 1: feel confident about what that's gonna look like with how 1353 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: all over the place Frank has been this year, which 1354 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: has not been his fault for the record, it's been 1355 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: because of the injuries, But I mean this, this rotation 1356 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: has been all over the place this year. I feel 1357 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: like all the bigs are matchup dependent. For me, maybe 1358 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: the solid plays more, but like it's gonna be Lebron 1359 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: at the five, and then we'll see wherever they can 1360 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: play drum, and see where they can play Tress, see 1361 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: where they can play Mark Kiev. I think those wings 1362 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 1: and then Ben malcolmore will see if he's hot that night, right, 1363 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 1: But other than that, it's gonna be Crusoe, k CP, Kuzma, 1364 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 1: lebron A D And then from there you can kind 1365 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 1: of pick out who's gonna play. After that. It might 1366 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 1: be like West Matthews as well, might be more of 1367 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: a picture. He's playing really well, so if he continues this, 1368 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: he might be a fixture in that rotation. But after that, 1369 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: to me, Vogel is just gonna be able to push 1370 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: whatever buttons he wants, kind of just like he did 1371 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: last year. So that's why I keep comparing Drummond to 1372 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 1: to Javail, not like or not to Javail, like not 1373 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 1: to Dwight um So just just like situationally, how he's 1374 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 1: gonna play, where he's gonna be put in, And that's 1375 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: how I see it. So mostly that's how I hope 1376 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like an eight man nine month rotation, 1377 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: because I don't I just don't think you can have 1378 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen men playing every night, and it's just 1379 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 1: actually not how the playoffs goes. No one will be 1380 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 1: in Ridham in that way. So that's how I open 1381 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: see that how it goes, all right, I think that 1382 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: is that they're driving me on. Guys, alright, we god, 1383 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: we are Maple Maples up here, Mr Maple's what's up? Man? 1384 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: Oh job? What's going on? Man? I was just curious 1385 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: what you guys talk. I was talking to some people 1386 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: like this about this. What do you think? Who's do 1387 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 1: you think is gonna be the toughest matchup for the 1388 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Lakers in the playoffs all the way to a championship? 1389 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Who's the toughest match up? Like, I'm not saying you 1390 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 1: don't want to see him, because you gotta play everybody eventually. 1391 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 1: Who do you think gives the Lakers bost trouble in 1392 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: European of the Western Conference. I've been pretty consistent about this. 1393 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 1: I have the Clippers, man, I think I think they're 1394 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 1: just built in the sense that, uh, they can go 1395 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 1: to lineups that will force the Lakers to be isolation 1396 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: heavy by going with all their wings and force Lebron 1397 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 1: and a D to take a lot of off the 1398 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 1: drivel jump shots, especially if the spacing isn't there. I 1399 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 1: would still pick the Lakers in that matchup. I thought, 1400 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 1: I thought what New York I thought. I thought what 1401 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 1: the Knicks did to the Clippers, today with their defense 1402 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 1: is a great example of the way that the Lakers 1403 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 1: can stagnate them in return and make a guy like 1404 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Kauai really struggle to find quality looks and wear them 1405 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 1: down over a series. I would pick the Lakers, but 1406 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 1: if there's a team that has that has uh, you know, 1407 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 1: the theoretical pieces they need to cause the Lakers problem, 1408 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: it would be the Clippers in my opinion. Yeah, I'm 1409 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: with that as well. I feel like the Clippers have 1410 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: people aren't really watching the Clippers. It might be and 1411 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: I feel like because obviously what happened last year, but 1412 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 1: man like they're just as good. They're crazy three point 1413 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,919 Speaker 1: shooting team right there, like super early they create high 1414 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: about three point shots. I don't know if that will 1415 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: go in in the playoffs, but with that and the 1416 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 1: star level play of Kauai and we'll see what Paul 1417 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 1: George does. I just think they're ceiling is uh is 1418 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 1: the highest of what they can do, and they give 1419 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 1: the Lakers trouble. Right though those Wings play well. I 1420 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's a coincidence those Wings play well against 1421 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: It's almost every time. Um So yeah, I definitely against 1422 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 1: the Clippers and just have the high variants with the shooting. 1423 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: I think Zobach starting changes things a lot for them, 1424 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 1: Like he's really good as a defensive being man center. 1425 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 1: They can they can put out there. So definitely I 1426 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: saw their defense shot at the top ten with six 1427 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: stepid starting. There was a good team. So that's just 1428 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 1: curious about what you guys thought. I kind of lead 1429 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: leading that way too. It was gonna be thinper for 1430 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 1: me and Tony lost Bury that I'm with the Clippers 1431 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 1: and just one more of the Eastern Conference teams in 1432 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 1: the finals, you know, saying the Lakers get there knocking 1433 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: on some wood. Um, who's the who do you think 1434 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 1: the toughest matchup coming out of there? I think that 1435 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: might be a little I have to go back and 1436 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 1: forth with that. Well, I want to hear your opinion 1437 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: first man, what do you think? Uh? For me, it 1438 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: was the Honestly, it was the Sixers. For me, I 1439 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: think that would be the kind of toughest match up 1440 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 1: because just because it will force the Laker to play, 1441 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, drubbing and play big a little more and 1442 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: that kind of hurts the Lakers offensively. And that was 1443 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, my train of thought there. I 1444 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: think I think you put a d at the five. 1445 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying that you handled the nets 1446 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: pretty well, but I think that kind of mutualizes the 1447 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: next one to do offensively. I tend to think that 1448 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 1: the Lakers would eventually figure out a way to really 1449 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: slow down the Sixers offense. Uh. What worries me about Brooklyn, 1450 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: and this is what makes the James Harden things so crazy, 1451 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 1: is like the Laker defense is so good that you 1452 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: have to beat them by shooting over the top. When 1453 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 1: they've got it going, you know, you have to beat 1454 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 1: them by shooting over their smaller guards. And you know, 1455 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 1: when it's just Katie and Kyrie, or when it's just Kyrier, 1456 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: it's just whoever it is, you can fati eigue them 1457 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 1: and force them to miss. But that three headed attack there, 1458 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: it's to me, it kind of balances out the physical 1459 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 1: wear and tear of generating offense against the Lakers to 1460 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 1: where you know, you could see all three of them having, 1461 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, moments in the game where they can be aggressive, 1462 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 1: but where they can also fade into the background and 1463 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 1: not have to worry about being the guy who's generating everything. 1464 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: And in theory, if they can continue to cause teams 1465 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 1: problems with their switching defense. I I still think that 1466 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: Brooklyn is the scariest and I don't think that that 1467 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 1: massive wind Street that they went on with James Harden 1468 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 1: was a coincidence. I thought that was they found a formula. 1469 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: They were switching on defense and it was screwing people 1470 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 1: up and then no one can guard them on the 1471 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 1: other end. See, that was my thing. Just I just 1472 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 1: I just saw what Janice did to them, like back 1473 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 1: to back game. I just think I think like the 1474 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: playoff rings are a d is kind of you know, 1475 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 1: he obviously can't initiate like Johannest, but as far as 1476 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 1: being able to score on smaller guys against switches have 1477 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 1: to like the talent is similar. So that's quite a time. 1478 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: Did you think you're adding Lebron jangs to it on 1479 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: top of it? So that's why I was like, I 1480 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 1: don't I don't know if it's the it's Brooklyn's the 1481 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 1: toughest matchup for the Lakers, But I just chanse what 1482 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 1: you guys thought. Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's 1483 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 1: gonna be close, like it was Brooklyn for me all 1484 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 1: year and then like I guess the Bucks are starting 1485 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,679 Speaker 1: to kind of creep creep in there, but talking about 1486 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 1: Jason was talking about, Sorry, there's two Jason. Now j 1487 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 1: was talking JT was talking about with like with Brooklyn, 1488 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 1: how to defend them Katie. Katie and Kyrie are the 1489 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 1: only really two right in the East that have proven 1490 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: are going to hit like those tough shots when it 1491 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 1: matters like those are the two have like kind of 1492 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 1: proven it. That's why I would still kind of pick them. 1493 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 1: Um in a playoff series where I guess the Lakers 1494 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,519 Speaker 1: are gonna have to hit those tough, midrange kind of 1495 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: contested shots, and their guys that look for that shot 1496 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 1: like they try to purposely get to that. So that's 1497 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 1: where my struggle would be and then hardened just man, 1498 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,639 Speaker 1: that makes that so tough to cover because you can't 1499 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: really trap anywhere. Um, Blakers would kind of figure it out, 1500 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 1: see who they want to leave open, maybe leave Bruce 1501 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Brown or something open. But yeah, that's where it's really tough. 1502 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 1: But Milwaukee starting to go up man with Janice is 1503 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 1: doing Drew Holiday, I think it's huge. Um. I think 1504 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 1: he was like a huge X factor for them in 1505 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs. He's a playoff performer too, so it's close 1506 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 1: for me, as closer than it was. Do you see 1507 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,640 Speaker 1: that as well? Maple's like Milwaukee for you have they 1508 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: kind of like Yeah, I mean I watched I watched 1509 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 1: un pell game and the drop off between Bledstoe and 1510 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Holiday the gap. I'm definitely figured they're at the gap 1511 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: that that's definitely something to considered. I think there was 1512 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,599 Speaker 1: gonna be much better in the playoff setting, and uh, 1513 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 1: I think Janice is different. Obviously people are going to 1514 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 1: push back. We'll see in the playoffs. But I'm definitely 1515 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, Milwaukee definitely have my eyes and they're actually 1516 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 1: playing the best right now by the Bees. So do 1517 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 1: you did you watch that second Bucks Nets game, the 1518 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 1: one where Kyrie was complaining about their crunch time offense. 1519 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 1: I saw I saw towards the end of the year. Yeah, 1520 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 1: So that I thought was the interesting kind of microcosm 1521 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 1: of of what I think is the way to beat 1522 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Um And it's it's kind of like what happened 1523 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: to the Clippers last year against Denver, Like they just 1524 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: forced them into taking a ton of contested jump shots 1525 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 1: and the Clippers just went cold. And you saw the 1526 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 1: Bucks did the same thing to Brooklyn in that game, 1527 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 1: it just it became very your turn, my turn, and 1528 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 1: the and the superstar crazy pull up shots just they 1529 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,560 Speaker 1: just weren't going. And I think I think that's the 1530 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: strategy to beat Brooklyn is physically wear them down and 1531 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 1: then stagnate them and then just hope that at the 1532 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 1: end of those games they just have those like contagious 1533 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 1: cold nights where they just can't make anything, and then 1534 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 1: and then you're on the other end, you're getting these 1535 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 1: like that. That's the cool thing about the honest, you 1536 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: know impact, And what Lebron and a D will do 1537 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 1: is like their stagnation is at the rim, like they're 1538 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,760 Speaker 1: they're they're like, hey, we're forced fitting feeding Lebron and 1539 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,720 Speaker 1: a D in isolation. But Lebron's putting his head down 1540 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,720 Speaker 1: and going to the rim and a D is you know, 1541 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 1: back in the dude down and shooting like a seven 1542 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 1: foot or over the top of him. Like it's it's 1543 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 1: just a different type of stagnant offense when it's him. 1544 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Then when it's all pull up jumpers, you know, get 1545 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 1: the shot quality, I got you. Yep. We saw what 1546 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: happens to James Harden, right, he just stands at half 1547 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:23,760 Speaker 1: court sometimes. Now I don't know if you'll do that. 1548 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 1: Now he's got a lot more talent around them, and 1549 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, like we'll see how that goes. But I 1550 01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: think that's like a kind of I think that's the template. 1551 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 1: You kind of trap Harden and then make the other 1552 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 1: guys try to take tough shots. But I just what 1553 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,760 Speaker 1: did you guys get to, you know, you guys to 1554 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of kind of idea of who the matchups were 1555 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 1: leaving the lads. So appreciate your man, love what y'are doing, Dope, Maples, 1556 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate you man as always, shim Let's see, we 1557 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,680 Speaker 1: got James Harden is better than Kobe and Dwyane Wain, 1558 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 1: so they should be just fun from what I've been 1559 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:08,680 Speaker 1: called off. Oh my god, bro, are you there? Hey, 1560 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 1: let's okay, hear me. The thing about the nets that 1561 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 1: you guys were talking about those like regardless of how 1562 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 1: it looks, we've only seen them for seven games together, right, 1563 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 1: So like how like obviously it happened with the Clippers 1564 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 1: last year, but it didn't have enough chemistry, So how 1565 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 1: do we think that plays out this year? Because like, 1566 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,080 Speaker 1: these guys are just the talent is just on a 1567 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,840 Speaker 1: different level. You know, So I agree with you in 1568 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,599 Speaker 1: the sense that that the talent is on a different 1569 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 1: level that makes it different. That these guys are much smarter, 1570 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 1: smarter offensive players than Kawai and Paul George are. Um 1571 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the thing the thing that makes it tricky, and Kevin 1572 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 1: Duran actually talked about this in his podcast. I think 1573 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Bankski just straight up asked him like, hey, man, like 1574 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:56,640 Speaker 1: what do you say to the people who say you 1575 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 1: guys haven't played enough together? And He's like, we're we're 1576 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 1: high i Q basketball players. This is easy for us. 1577 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,640 Speaker 1: Put us in floor. We know what to do, we 1578 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 1: know how to play basketball. You know. I've always said 1579 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 1: that the lack of continuity is gonna hurt them more 1580 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 1: on the defensive and because you know, right now you're 1581 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 1: getting you know whatever, seventy seventy two minutes of of 1582 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: of Katie and Kyrie and then the rest is being 1583 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,040 Speaker 1: played by these role players who are are embracing the 1584 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 1: dirty work, and they're actually doing a pretty decent job 1585 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 1: defensively with those guys given their lack of talent. When 1586 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 1: you throw James Harden in the mix and now all 1587 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,680 Speaker 1: three of them are playing, you know, thirty forty minutes. Uh, 1588 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 1: that that three, that group of those three guys hasn't 1589 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,840 Speaker 1: really learned how to get stops together yet. And and 1590 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: that even in those even in those games where they 1591 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,400 Speaker 1: were having those really close games. I think with the Clippers, 1592 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,800 Speaker 1: I think early on when those three were playing, it 1593 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 1: was like they were winning, but they were only winning 1594 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: by outscoring them because at the end of the day, 1595 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 1: like teams are having trouble stopping them too. But that's 1596 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: also seven game sample size, so you know m exactly. 1597 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: I do tend to think that they will be able 1598 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 1: to score no matter what. It's just can they defend? 1599 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,599 Speaker 1: And a key part of their lineup has been out 1600 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 1: and he's a historically bad defensive player. And if you 1601 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,880 Speaker 1: throw him into that mix and take away you know, 1602 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,000 Speaker 1: a guy like that, whatever his name is, Bruce Brown 1603 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,479 Speaker 1: or whatever it has been, you know, crazy like defending 1604 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,920 Speaker 1: like a crazy person. I think it swings, you know, 1605 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 1: that side of the floor, you know, in a negative manner, 1606 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 1: and there is a bit of a diminishing return on 1607 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,759 Speaker 1: the offensive end, and I think it lowers their ceiling 1608 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,919 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, it's them, and then the Clippers, 1609 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm I have a little bit worry about the Clippers 1610 01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 1: only because for some reason, when they see the purple 1611 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: and goal, those guys all are just insane. That lack 1612 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: of focus or them giving up big leads like did 1613 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 1: it against the Nuggets. I don't see that happening against 1614 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 1: the Lakers, Like if the Lakers beat them, they're going 1615 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 1: to have to beat them. For some reason, when they 1616 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: see the Lakers, they're just they don't they're on their 1617 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 1: peace and queues. They don't miss anything. They're just straight up. 1618 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 1: And but yeah, it's just them and the nets that 1619 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm worried about. For the nets. My other thing is 1620 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 1: if they are on, it's like for teams to go 1621 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,560 Speaker 1: shot for shot with them, Like that's insane. Like we 1622 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 1: we make fun of James for all of his playoff 1623 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,680 Speaker 1: failures this and that, but at the end of the day, 1624 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 1: like Harden never played with the guy of Katie's caliber ever, 1625 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 1: and now he's about to be passing the ball and 1626 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 1: running the offense with Katie and Kyrie, who are both 1627 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 1: historically really clutched players. And so I mean, if if 1628 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,800 Speaker 1: we see a finals matchup, it should be insane. Yeah. 1629 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 1: The funny part about that he said he's never played 1630 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,760 Speaker 1: with a guy of Katie's caliber. Yeah it was Katie right, 1631 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:43,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah it was. But your point is definitely right though. 1632 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,560 Speaker 1: With that, he has way more talent around him. And 1633 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 1: I think, look, like I said this about the Lakers 1634 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,680 Speaker 1: this year, they've obviously um gone into going into the 1635 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 1: playoffs focusing on health, right, that's what they want to do, 1636 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,000 Speaker 1: And Nets are doing the same thing right there, trying 1637 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,679 Speaker 1: to focus on health. I do think there's like this respect, 1638 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 1: you have to have a continuity in this respect, you 1639 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: have to have the chemistry of what it takes to 1640 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 1: win a title like I just don't think, um, well, 1641 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,040 Speaker 1: the Nets aren't gonna have enough time with the with 1642 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,599 Speaker 1: the game's missed. I think Katie, Kyrie and Harden only 1643 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,960 Speaker 1: played like games together as well, So that's where that's 1644 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: where their struggle is going to be. Have they gone 1645 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,880 Speaker 1: and gone through enough ups and downs to wear in 1646 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs that we be able to trust each other 1647 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,000 Speaker 1: on defense and be able to go do what you 1648 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:22,600 Speaker 1: need to do in a playoff series, And that's I 1649 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 1: think that's the good thing. I just think the talent 1650 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 1: is overwhelming in the Eastern Conference and you can't go 1651 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,639 Speaker 1: shot with shot for shot with them. That's a eating 1652 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,559 Speaker 1: that's a losing strategy. Like you can't go, you can't 1653 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 1: play game with them because they'll win. That that's what 1654 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 1: they wanted, that's what they want you to do. They 1655 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 1: want you to get into like a one on one battle. 1656 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 1: They'll switch a lot. They're very like very much like 1657 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,639 Speaker 1: how Houston did last year where they try to switch everything, 1658 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 1: make you go into an isolation battle. So so yeah, 1659 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 1: I think you're right with that. They'll definitely have some issues. 1660 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 1: I just think the talent level is just just too 1661 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 1: high for them. Well to your point about the to 1662 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,719 Speaker 1: your point about the shopper shot thing, that's the point 1663 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 1: of the Lebron in a d or the Ben Simmons 1664 01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 1: Joel Embiide or the Janice Drew Holiday type of a pairing. 1665 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 1: That makes it different is you know, if you go 1666 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,240 Speaker 1: I would be. I am one thousand percent certain that 1667 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,040 Speaker 1: if the Clippers got into a playoff series with the Nets, 1668 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 1: they would lose because they get into those environments and 1669 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 1: they get into jump shooting contests with them. But for 1670 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 1: the Lakers, for the Sixers, teams that like you know, 1671 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 1: when when they're on the other end taking contested pull 1672 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 1: up jump shots. You're ramming it down their throat at 1673 01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,160 Speaker 1: the rim to me, to me, that is the way 1674 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,599 Speaker 1: you counter their shot. Like you can you can get 1675 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: into an isolation contest with him if you bully them 1676 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,720 Speaker 1: while they're trying to outfinance you. That to me is 1677 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 1: the way to beat them. Yeah, all right, well, I 1678 01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys, thanks for having me on than you see, 1679 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 1: we got two more here so we can get to 1680 01:17:48,920 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 1: those cool cam gamba. What's going on? Man, looks like 1681 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 1: it's a connecting. Let see if I can you guy 1682 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 1: see me? Yeah, that's what I was. Oh, not much. 1683 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 1: I guess one thing I've noticed tonight especially, and I 1684 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 1: guess the first half the Clippers game. Matt West. Matthews. 1685 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,000 Speaker 1: He has came out on defense and he has been 1686 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 1: awesome earlier. I know, earlier in the season battle and 1687 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,680 Speaker 1: leg injuries and stuff, but uh, specifically the lineups with him, 1688 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 1: Crusoe and KCP. I thought the perimeter defense was awesome tonight, 1689 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 1: and I think, especially if we play the Clippers, I 1690 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,280 Speaker 1: think he's going to be important. I realized he's a 1691 01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 1: little under size for Kauai and PG. By it, I 1692 01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 1: think I don't know him and Kuzma are probably gonna 1693 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 1: be switching on and off. But yeah, yeah, I tend 1694 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 1: to think that every older veteran player from the bubble 1695 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,840 Speaker 1: deserves a pass for the way they looked in the 1696 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 1: first few months of the season. Um. I think I 1697 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 1: think all of them got out of Disney and they 1698 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 1: were like not touching the basketball for the next several months. 1699 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 1: I think that was their way of of of rejuvenating 1700 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 1: from that crazy experience. And I think a lot of 1701 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,760 Speaker 1: those guys that West isn't the only guy like that 1702 01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,679 Speaker 1: in the league right now who's a little bit older, 1703 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 1: has had some injuries in his life, who came back 1704 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 1: and looked a little sloppy. His mobility right now compared 1705 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,559 Speaker 1: to the way it looks back in December is insane. 1706 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 1: He's he looks like a different player. Um. And and 1707 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you, like, he's your he's your guy that 1708 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 1: you play when you're dealing with bigger wing scores. He's 1709 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,600 Speaker 1: not as as quick as he used to be, but 1710 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 1: he's still really, really strong, and he's still later really 1711 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,800 Speaker 1: quick enough to hang with the bigger wings in the 1712 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,880 Speaker 1: league that aren't going to be as shifty and quick 1713 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,680 Speaker 1: as you might have to deal with with, you know, 1714 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,680 Speaker 1: with the quicker type of guards. And it looks like 1715 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:12,200 Speaker 1: with the way that the matchups are shaking out, that 1716 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,719 Speaker 1: the Lakers are far more likely to run into wings 1717 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,560 Speaker 1: than they are too guards at this point, with the 1718 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 1: exception of the playing game against Steth, that's gonna be 1719 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 1: the one random wrinkle in there. Yeah, I said before, 1720 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 1: like West rounding into form is pretty big. Like the 1721 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,600 Speaker 1: whole league wants three and D wings, right, that's what 1722 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,320 Speaker 1: they want. Mcel bridges is about to get paid this summer. 1723 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best three and D wings. 1724 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, West ending in the forum, he's a he's 1725 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 1: a grown experience dude. Like he's been in the league 1726 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,760 Speaker 1: a long time. He knows what it like takes, I 1727 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 1: guess to get his body ready for a full season 1728 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. And his jumper going is huge, 1729 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 1: Like he looks like he's moving well. I remember in 1730 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, like he got really cooked 1731 01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 1: by Kauai. I think in Paul George and I like 1732 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 1: first Clippers game, UM today and the last few games 1733 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,320 Speaker 1: he's look really good against wings UM and he's playing well, 1734 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,160 Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna be a picture of the uh, 1735 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 1: the rotation him and cous You can't can't have enough 1736 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,439 Speaker 1: of those wings, and that's that's what the whole league wants. Yeah, 1737 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm not really everyone's freaking out over like rotations and stuff, 1738 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,560 Speaker 1: but I mean, Lakers have so many bodies and so 1739 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,799 Speaker 1: many different uh, they're shape shifting team. They can literally 1740 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 1: got matchups for any team. I do think the Clippers 1741 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be if we play them, it's going 1742 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,760 Speaker 1: to be a blood bath. I don't know. Just every 1743 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,120 Speaker 1: time we play them it's just I don't know, it's 1744 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,880 Speaker 1: just slow it down type of game. I don't know. 1745 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,040 Speaker 1: It should be good. But yeah, the cold and I'm 1746 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,639 Speaker 1: stealing that shape shifting team. I like that. That's going 1747 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,120 Speaker 1: into my repertoire. I'll be using it from here forward. 1748 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, thanks, appreciate it. Thanks man. All right, 1749 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, let's see if we can get gambo on 1750 01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,560 Speaker 1: there and we'll just close it off for that for 1751 01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:13,400 Speaker 1: the night. It looks like he's still connecting. Um I 1752 01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,800 Speaker 1: decided reacent quotes here. Frank Vogli as Cruso has to 1753 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,599 Speaker 1: be considered for an all defensive team. That's from red 1754 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,680 Speaker 1: Rivas Christian Vas. I think we would agree right like 1755 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,599 Speaker 1: he would if he got the minutes. I just don't 1756 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,840 Speaker 1: think all defensive players come off the bench for the 1757 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 1: most part, But I think you would be considered if 1758 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 1: he were starting. Do you think do you think that? Yeah, 1759 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,760 Speaker 1: I think it's impossible for him to get the award, unfortunately, 1760 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 1: just with the way that this whole process works. But 1761 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,120 Speaker 1: here's all I'll say about ox Cruso. He is one 1762 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,040 Speaker 1: of the few guys in the league that I think 1763 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,519 Speaker 1: fits the description of a defensive wrecking ball that dude 1764 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 1: just blows up plays all the time. He's one of 1765 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 1: my favorite players to root for, just because I've never 1766 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 1: really seen a guy, um, you know, at that type 1767 01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,160 Speaker 1: of position who he I guess I shouldn't say never 1768 01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:01,920 Speaker 1: see that guy, because there are several of them like 1769 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 1: that in the league, But for me personally and in 1770 01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,800 Speaker 1: the teams that I've rooted for since I've been an 1771 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,479 Speaker 1: NBA fan, he's the first guy that I've had like 1772 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:15,040 Speaker 1: that who's literally just a wrecking ball defensive that played 1773 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 1: today where he was kind of playing in between Chris 1774 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,560 Speaker 1: Paul and DeAndre Ayton and then back pedaled and just 1775 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 1: jumped and broke up the lob to DeAndre A And 1776 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:29,760 Speaker 1: that's just a ridiculous defensive play, Just a ridiculous defensive play. Yeah, 1777 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:30,920 Speaker 1: he was really Let me see if I can get 1778 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 1: this last call around here, O case seven. I's you're 1779 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 1: just not connecting connecting anymore. But we can try. We 1780 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 1: can try again on Tuesday for the gentleman. Yeah, uh, 1781 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 1: well this was good. Um, this is a big win. 1782 01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, I feel like we got a D pet, 1783 01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,599 Speaker 1: we got a D playing like himself. Um, I think 1784 01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,080 Speaker 1: we got the Knicks Tuesday, who beat the Clippers tonight. Actually, 1785 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 1: um in l A. It's a big one for them. Yeah. Hey, 1786 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,519 Speaker 1: thank you guys all so much for listening. Sincerely, we 1787 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:14,800 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Um if you missed out on anything that 1788 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 1: you want to hear again. I have been fortunate to 1789 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: be able to figure out how to record these using 1790 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 1: just screen recording on an iPhone and I'll release it 1791 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 1: as a podcast here in a few minutes so you 1792 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,320 Speaker 1: can check out the thing in its entirety. And to 1793 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,840 Speaker 1: my knowledge, Roger and I plan on doing this again 1794 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,280 Speaker 1: after the next game on Tuesday. And you know, we 1795 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,479 Speaker 1: just really appreciate you guys. To support. This is a 1796 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,680 Speaker 1: lot of fun and I'm glad we finally have some 1797 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,760 Speaker 1: good news to talk about. Yep, and hopefully I'll find 1798 01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 1: my voice by man. I appreciate everyone who stayed in, 1799 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,000 Speaker 1: came and requested everything to come up. These are really 1800 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:48,680 Speaker 1: cool and