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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 3: was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's show Diary, John Annick,

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian, Oh God, here you're your hosts, John Annick

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Speaker 4: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: You gotta be fucking shitting me, Ken, for I can't

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Speaker 5: even believe we are doing this right now. I really

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Speaker 5: can't believe it. It is Monday, April second, twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 5: It's episode one hundred and fifty of the Anak and

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Speaker 5: Florian Podcast. This was supposed to be a celebration today,

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Speaker 5: Kenny act. Due to some scheduling conflicts, we taped most

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Speaker 5: of this show last Thursday, so you surprised me coming

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Speaker 5: in studio this morning because of this breaking news. You're

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Speaker 5: supposed to be on the road going somewhere for some

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Speaker 5: other work. So it's great to see you. I can't

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Speaker 5: even believe it, man. And despite the prior history, right,

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Speaker 5: the odds were very much stacked against this happening, right,

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Speaker 5: this fight getting canceled a fourth time, you know by now,

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Speaker 5: for the fourth time in as many bookings, this fight

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Speaker 5: between Tony Ferguson Andbibner Mago Metob has been fucking canceled.

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Speaker 5: Now the silver lining is great and Max Holloway is

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Speaker 5: stepping up on a week's notice. He will face cub

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Speaker 5: Ebner Mago Medob And that breaking news broke with the

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Speaker 5: news that Ferguson was out. But Kenny, I can't even

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Speaker 5: believe that we are sitting here and this is the

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Speaker 5: narrative come fight week for two twenty three.

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Speaker 6: Man, I'm sick.

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Speaker 3: It makes no sense. And how about this?

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Speaker 7: Tony did not hurt himself in training because a lot

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Speaker 7: of people were kind of misunderstanding that what was he doing?

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Speaker 7: Was he doing training this hard this close to a fight?

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Speaker 7: Unfortunately it was not. It was just kind of the

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Speaker 7: most random of accidents. He was apparently actually at the

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Speaker 6: Going over there.

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Speaker 3: I know, man, he was talking.

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Speaker 7: Someone either called his name or he didn't expect to

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Speaker 7: see someone. He turned around and uh he tore his

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Speaker 3: Something like that. I can't believe it, dud.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, coming up today, we're gonna talk to

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Speaker 5: you FC light heavyweight champion Daniel Cormier. That was taped

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Speaker 5: on Thursday. You got a new Ray Longo minute director

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Speaker 5: producer Bobby Razik as well. Before we get there though,

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Speaker 5: of course, Kenny, we got to hit all the angles

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Speaker 5: of this breaking news and and I really appreciate you

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Speaker 5: coming in studio so we can hammer some of this stuff.

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Speaker 5: So and we're also, by the way, gonna go live

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Speaker 5: today with nutrition as Tyler Minton. He's actually embedded with

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Speaker 5: kabetn Hermago Medov right now. Also works very closely with

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Speaker 5: Max Holloway, whom he considers one of his best friends.

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Speaker 5: So Tyler Minton the melee way right in the middle

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Speaker 5: of this whole thing, and he's very busy, but he'll

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Speaker 5: break off a few minutes for us, as I mentioned

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Speaker 5: DC here in a little bit, So for starters, Kenny,

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Speaker 5: this news broke on April Fool's Day and the first

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Speaker 5: thing Dana White said when the video went out, was

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Speaker 5: this is not an April Fools joke. And once I

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Speaker 5: saw that video, I took him at his word, right, like,

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Speaker 5: this is a man of many resources. He's got a

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Speaker 5: lot of things to do. I would think better ways

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Speaker 5: to spend his Easter weekend. Even though he likes a

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Speaker 5: good prank, this fight wasn't one to mess with the

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Speaker 5: masses on right, They're very sensitive to it. It had

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Speaker 5: been canceled three times prior, so once I saw Dana

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Speaker 5: say that, I just felt like we were in for

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Speaker 5: the worst.

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Speaker 6: And sure enough, here we are Monday morning.

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Speaker 7: I sent the news to a couple of crazed MMA

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Speaker 7: the emoji of this. You know, they're like eighth April Fools.

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Speaker 7: Yeah right, sure, yeah, nice try dude. They've been waiting

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Speaker 7: for this fight forever and it didn't come together. So,

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Speaker 7: I mean, everyone was pretty incredulous about the news, And

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Speaker 3: This fight is cursed.

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Speaker 7: You basically can never make this fight ever again, right,

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Speaker 7: I mean fans aren't gonna buy it, like you know,

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Speaker 7: I don't know, man, It's wild. It's amazing that Max

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Speaker 7: He did not get injured, and he's coming back from

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Speaker 7: absolutely devastated Habeeb as well. These guys have been training

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Speaker 7: this fight isn't happening is very disappointing. But as far

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Speaker 7: as a replacement goes, you know, Holloway is probably as

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Speaker 5: The rub though, when it comes to Max Holloway is

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Speaker 5: the weight. It's the ankle injury that you mentioned, right.

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Speaker 5: The facts are, this is a fighter who couldn't defend

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Speaker 5: his title on March third against Frankie Edgar. So Brian

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Speaker 5: TC the Ortega stepped in and knocked out Franki Edgar,

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Speaker 5: of course, but Max Holloway was an injured fighter. He

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Speaker 5: is also a massive featherweight who has told me that

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Speaker 5: he's gonna fight at middleweight before his UFC career is

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Speaker 5: as well. Those are very real aspirations for Max Holloway. So,

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Speaker 5: Kenny as a fighter, how best to maximize these five days?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: I mean not to mention who's walking out of the

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Speaker 5: red corner and Jabibnamaga meta right?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean at this point, how much work can

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Speaker 3: But nobody like Habib Normalga made Off.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and the big thing for Max, what allows him

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Speaker 7: This guy does not get tired, but he knows how

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Speaker 5: And as far as challenges for Habibnrmago Medab in this matchup,

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Speaker 5: He's gonna go in there and really try to cut off.

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Speaker 6: And close distance and do what he does.

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Speaker 5: I mean, how much do you think strategically he's trying

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Speaker 6: If at all?

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Speaker 7: Not much, you know, because the beauty in Habib's game

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Speaker 7: like a Habib Normaga Madoff. In a lot of ways,

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Speaker 7: this is a tougher fight. I think Max Holloway is

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Speaker 7: way more technical than Tony Ferguson. Is he more dangerous,

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but he's way more technical. He knows

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Speaker 7: Holloway is a guy who could switch his stances very well.

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Speaker 7: He moves very well. He could fight going backwards very well.

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Speaker 7: Is he as much of a threat on the ground

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: Right now, some people might take a pro I'm fully trained,

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Speaker 5: But I think it's going to be few and far

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Speaker 5: as though this isn't without opportunity Kenny and him trying

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Speaker 5: endear him to the fans Kenny, certainly, but you gotta

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Speaker 5: think financially, something was done for Max Holloway. Otherwise I'm

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Speaker 3: Well, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 7: But I will say this Hawaiian fighter, he just wants

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Speaker 3: He wants to fight.

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Speaker 7: So he really means it, and this is proof that

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Speaker 7: So I just hope that and I think this will

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Speaker 3: Hopefully.

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Speaker 7: This is a big ask for him on this kind

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Speaker 7: the fans are, you know, I hope that's not the case.

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Speaker 7: I hope people realize how much of a man this

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Speaker 7: think is unbelievable. So for Max Holloway, he gets all

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Speaker 7: it would be Max Holloway at this point, right, I mean, how.

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Speaker 3: Big of a fight would that be?

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Speaker 5: Well, and there are You're right, and there are a

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Speaker 6: I feel for the fans. I really do we move on.

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Speaker 6: I feel for you.

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Speaker 7: I envisioned you like in front of the Pond, kind

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Speaker 5: Tony Absolutely my numbing it And I will always go

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 9: you know, he talked to us, and his manager talked

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Speaker 9: to us and Brian Butler and they just wanted to

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Speaker 9: make one hundred ccent. Sure it was something that we

439
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Speaker 9: could we could have in control before he even accepted it.

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Speaker 3: Tyler can get.

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Speaker 7: Can you give us any insight as to like what

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Speaker 7: his mentality was or kind of what he was talking about,

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Speaker 7: what he was telling you about this crazy news.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll tell you one thing about Max Hallway. And

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Speaker 9: I don't you know, I've been with him his last

446
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Speaker 9: two camps.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 9: Unfortunately the last one had you know, a little bit

449
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Speaker 9: of an issue with the ankle and we didn't get

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Speaker 9: to finish it. But one thing I learned, man, Hawaiians

451
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Speaker 9: are a different breed of human. They are relentless. It

452
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Speaker 9: blows my mind. And how you know, just just their

453
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Speaker 9: warriors man, and all that really was going through his head.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I think he would be comfortable with

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Speaker 9: me saying this, so I'll say it. Max Hallway thinks

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Speaker 9: could be dembergam Metoff is the best fighter in the

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Speaker 9: world and that is enough for Max Hallway to want

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Speaker 9: to fight, could be membera metof Wow.

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Speaker 7: Now have you been around Habib's camp as well? Have

460
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Speaker 7: you seen him train? Have you seen him work out?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so his last camp, I was there for weeks

463
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Speaker 9: because I had him in d C at the same time.

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Speaker 9: I had Kulbeb in DC for the first three weeks,

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Speaker 9: then d C for the last three weeks alone. And

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Speaker 9: I always train with the guys. I love to train,

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Speaker 9: you know, it's a blast for me and I get

468
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Speaker 9: to know a little.

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Speaker 8: Bit about him. You know.

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Speaker 9: It's it's one thing to imagine what their energy levels are,

471
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Speaker 9: but it's another thing if you feel the difference in

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Speaker 9: their energy levels and you know as a fighter, and

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Speaker 9: that's you know, that's where me and me and George

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Speaker 9: have an advantage. I think over you know, people who

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Speaker 9: in the past week, you know, we were competitors or

476
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Speaker 9: whatever in this sport.

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Speaker 8: We felt it.

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Speaker 9: You know, we we we know what this feels like.

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Speaker 9: We know what the fighters need. So yeah, I always

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Speaker 9: want to roll with them. And uh, you know another

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Speaker 9: story I feel comfortable saying. Daniel Cormier had told me

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Speaker 9: is like kuld be Nurgamtoff is the best poundful pound

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Speaker 9: fighter in the world.

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Speaker 8: And when when.

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Speaker 9: Daniel Cormier, who is I mean, arguably the best poundful

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Speaker 9: pound fighter in the world. I'm saying this, You're curious,

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Speaker 9: So I went and uh, I wanted to roll with

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Speaker 9: Komte so bad. You know, I was a wrestler, I

489
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Speaker 9: was a fighter, and I was you know, grappling was

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Speaker 9: my thing, and it was probably the most embarrassing five

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Speaker 9: minutes of my entire life.

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Speaker 3: Uh I believe it.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 10: I used to think.

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Speaker 9: I used to think the bear thing was like, that's

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Speaker 9: a little fat nah man, I'm a bear hunter, like

497
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Speaker 9: a hunt bears in Tennessee. I'm a redneck and uh

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Speaker 9: I would firmly take could be nurg mat off with

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Speaker 9: me bear hunting and think he could he could take one.

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Speaker 8: Down after ridiculous.

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Speaker 9: It is ridiculous what this kid is like when he

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Speaker 9: gets his hands on someone.

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Speaker 7: How would you compare them as fighters? You've been around,

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Speaker 7: uh been around their training camps?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 7: What are there some some differences of some similarities and

507
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Speaker 7: in their games and their approaches.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, the biggest thing is it's it's.

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Speaker 8: It's the dream mma mashup.

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Speaker 9: You have the guy who's you know, uh uh a

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Speaker 9: little leans towards striking, but it is also a grap war.

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Speaker 9: You know, Max obviously trains grappling. He knows how to grapple.

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Speaker 9: You know, you don't you don't become a champion in

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Speaker 9: this sport if you suck at anything, really, you know,

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Speaker 9: but Max is very much a more skilled striker than

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Speaker 9: he is a grappler, or at least at least he

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Speaker 9: uses his striking. It's what he's known as the guy

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Speaker 9: picks gals apart and and and laughs and you know,

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Speaker 9: claps while he's doing it. Kabib is one of the

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Speaker 9: best wrestlers in the world, you know, so you know,

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Speaker 9: not not not the Kabee doesn't know how to strike.

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Speaker 9: You know, he displayed some really good striking in his

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Speaker 9: last five and really outstruck Barbosa. You know, he was

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Speaker 9: his his strikes were landing. Man, it was beautiful. But

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Speaker 9: Kabib is obviously more geared towards grappling. So you have,

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Speaker 9: you know, the true mixed martial artists dream here and

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Speaker 9: and uh in a a uh, you know, a better

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Speaker 9: grappler versus a better striker, and let's see who's who's

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Speaker 9: whose average beats the other. You know, they're both just

530
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Speaker 9: absolutely tenacious. They're both they're work ethics insane. Neither of

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Speaker 9: them fought with hate or animosity. They just they love

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Speaker 9: to fight. So it's really cool it's just, uh, it's

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Speaker 9: it's weird, and you know, it's kind of it's tough

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Speaker 9: to be with both men because I care about them

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Speaker 9: both so much. They're you know, i'd consider them both

536
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Speaker 9: extremely close friends. They're great people, two of the best

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Speaker 9: people I've met, not even in the sport, just in

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Speaker 9: life in general. Uh So it's you know, it's it's

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Speaker 9: really a dream matchup in my opinion, for for everyone.

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Speaker 5: Who's watching Tyler menton with us here on the Anak

541
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Speaker 5: and Florian podcast, tremendous insight. You're providing into both sides

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Speaker 5: of this equation. I'd imagine, though, you had to think

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Speaker 5: at some point, and maybe it's already happened in the UFC,

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Speaker 5: given how many athletes you guys are working with, that

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Speaker 5: it was only a matter of time before you were

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Speaker 5: going head to head in a high profile situation like

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Speaker 5: we've got this weekend.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, and we've done it before.

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Speaker 9: You know, we've had like James Vick and Joe Duffy

550
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Speaker 9: fought each other, right, you know, And it was weird.

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Speaker 9: I was with both guys and I you know, they

552
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Speaker 9: both said kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 8: They're like, well, you know, I want to fight the.

554
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Speaker 9: Best Joe Duffi or I want to fight the best

555
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Speaker 9: James Vick and if you can get him in there

556
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Speaker 9: as their absolute best, and that's what we want. These

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Speaker 9: guys are the exact same, you know. That's again, that's

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Speaker 9: that's kind of what makes our company. We have a team.

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Speaker 9: You know, we got several individuals here. We're growing our team.

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Speaker 9: You know, a lot of new guys who are training

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Speaker 9: with us this week and it's the perfect week for

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Speaker 9: them to do so, you know, and they they came

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Speaker 9: in on a good week. But it's that's one thing

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Speaker 9: that makes us what we do. You know, we're professional,

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Speaker 9: will work with anyone because we're here to do a job,

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Speaker 9: and that job is not only to help them make weight,

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Speaker 9: but to help them perform at the best, you know,

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Speaker 9: at their highest possible level. And our relationship with the

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Speaker 9: fighters has nothing to do with that. Our Our job

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Speaker 9: is is to get him in there and we can

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Speaker 9: do that, and once we do that, the best man

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Speaker 9: will win. You know, could my jobs to get Kabeb

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Speaker 9: on weight and helping perform it his best. Kabib's jobs

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Speaker 9: to get in there and fight. You know, our job's

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Speaker 9: the same thing with Max Holloway and will give them

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Speaker 9: both equal treatment, will give them both a job, and

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Speaker 9: you know, our best job, and we'll let them handle

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Speaker 9: what they're supposed to handle.

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Speaker 5: I'm sensing a monthly segment, the Melee Minute forgetting long

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Speaker 5: here on the Niccan Florian podcast.

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Speaker 6: Tyler, I appreciate your time. I'll leave you with this.

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Speaker 5: Got Bibnrmago Mattov, at least to the untrained eye, seemed

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Speaker 5: to master everything about this weight management process prior to

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Speaker 5: the Edgend Barbosa fight. I don't know how far you

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Speaker 5: guys go back, but is that fair to say that

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Speaker 5: ahead of that Barbosa fight, Kabib did everything right and

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Speaker 5: it is your expectation that that's exactly what we'll see

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Speaker 5: here again during this fight week.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know I worked with I worked with him

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Speaker 9: for that fight. You know, that was my first time

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Speaker 9: working with him, and man.

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Speaker 8: He showed up.

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Speaker 9: You know, I got a lot of notoriety from it

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Speaker 9: because people saw me on the scale or you know,

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Speaker 9: at the scale with Kobeb and and you know people

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Speaker 9: saw me with him all week. But the man if

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Speaker 9: if if you give us an unprepared, unprofessional athlete, Criant

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Speaker 9: who's just not doing their job. We can't do our job.

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Speaker 9: Could be Nerka Metof came to me already prepared. Uh,

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Speaker 9: he came to us with a whole new attitude. He

601
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Speaker 9: was doing everything he could. Uh, he was doing everything

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Speaker 9: right when we met up, So it made my job

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Speaker 9: extremely easy.

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Speaker 8: He approached the way he should. So you know, we're

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Speaker 8: here to make it the absolute best.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, you're one hund percent right, it could be

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Speaker 9: Nerka Metoff, you know, did the work, He did everything

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Speaker 9: he could, and this camp's the same way he showed up.

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Speaker 9: He showed up with no doubt in my mind. It's

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Speaker 9: going to be an exanmely easy weight cut, you know.

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Speaker 9: So so we we got a good uh, we'll have

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Speaker 9: a good outcome.

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Speaker 5: Well, I wish all the best, man for what is

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Speaker 5: going to be a crazy week for you. I know

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Speaker 5: on Twitter you can find Tyler Minton at.

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Speaker 6: The Melee Way m E L E E. Tyler man

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Speaker 6: all the best.

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Speaker 5: Look forward to seeing you at the way, uh at

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Speaker 5: the way and on Friday morning and hopefully we can

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Speaker 5: catch up with you after the fight, because I think

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Speaker 5: this one is gonna be one you look back on

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Speaker 5: pretty fondly.

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Speaker 6: No matter how it goes.

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Speaker 5: So thank you for breaking off a few minutes, Bubble,

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Speaker 5: see you later this week.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate it, guys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks good luck, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: All right, there is Tyler Minton on the Anak and

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Speaker 5: Florian podcast, and interesting Kenny to hear him talk about

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Speaker 5: Max Holloway making weight as a possible feat.

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Speaker 6: Right, make no mistake about it.

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Speaker 5: Right can flow two and oh against the UFC featherweight limit,

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Speaker 5: and you consider both of those professional wins, I would

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Speaker 5: think just making the goddamn.

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Speaker 7: Wait exactly man. First of all, awesome, awesome get in

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Speaker 7: Tyler Minton. Man, he's he was awesome, a lot of

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Speaker 7: great inside as you mentioned, so very cool that you

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Speaker 7: had him on the show. Yeah, I mean again, Max

639
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Speaker 7: Holloway is not the smallest featherweight. He's huge. He gets very,

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Speaker 7: very big, man. He gets up into the one eighties.

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you, he's that big. So for him to

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Speaker 7: make one for five is quite a feat every single

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Speaker 7: time out. For him to make one fifty five, I

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Speaker 7: think it's going to be It's not going to be easy.

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Speaker 3: It really isn't.

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Speaker 7: Habib might even be lighter than him at this point,

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Speaker 7: at this stage of the game, so I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 3: So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 7: It's also a bad thing, right because we want to

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Speaker 7: see Max Holloway at his full potential. Obviously that you know,

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Speaker 7: given the circumstances, we're not going to be able to

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Speaker 7: see that. However, the good thing is he's not going

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Speaker 7: to be that much smaller than Habib hopefully on fight night.

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Speaker 7: So he is one hundred and forty five pounder, but

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Speaker 7: he's not just a regular one hundred and forty five pounder.

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Speaker 7: He's the champ with a tremendous amount of skill and

657
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Speaker 7: will and experience. And he's also not going to be

658
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Speaker 7: that much undersized.

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Speaker 5: And you're right, I think as we sit here on Monday,

660
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Speaker 5: there's no doubt in my mind that Abib Normago Matov

661
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Speaker 5: right now, in this very moment, weighs less than Max Holloway.

662
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Speaker 5: And for the fans all over me when I'm tweeting

663
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Speaker 5: about one hundred and seventy eight pounds, like, if you

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Speaker 5: think Max Holloway is walking around at one hundred and

665
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Speaker 5: sixty eight hundred and seventy pounds, fooling yourself. I'm not

666
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Speaker 5: gonna get into the numbers. I wasn't gonna put Tyler

667
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Speaker 5: on the spot and ask what his weight was when

668
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Speaker 5: the call came in. But if you think he's sitting

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Speaker 5: there one sixty one sixty five, you know simple weight cut.

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Speaker 5: Max is gonna stare hell in the face this week

671
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Speaker 5: and the Hawaiian Warrior is going to power right through it.

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Speaker 5: And again, despite this Ferguson Nirmago meta matchup just being cursed,

673
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Speaker 5: UFC is certainly blessed with Max Holloway and we'll see

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Speaker 5: what he can do with the opportunity against Kabib Nirmago

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Speaker 5: MetOp All right, so coming up now, you're gonna hear

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Speaker 5: some content that was tape last Thursday, when, of course

677
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Speaker 5: the fight between Ferguson and.

678
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Speaker 6: Kabib was still on.

679
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Speaker 5: We have edited out all of the irrelevant stuff, so

680
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Speaker 5: we appreciate the extra hours out of our great producers.

681
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Speaker 5: But coming up, you're getting all of Kenny's picks on

682
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Speaker 5: UFC two to twenty three, save for the new main event.

683
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Speaker 5: We will talk to UFC light Heavyweight Champion Daniel Cormier

684
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Speaker 5: to get another insight into the pulse of Kabib, Normago

685
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Speaker 5: Metov update on Alli A Quinta in the ray Longo

686
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Speaker 5: minute also director producer Bobby Razik. His film Mask is

687
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Speaker 5: out on April third, so as promised, here the rest

688
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Speaker 5: of that episode number one fifty of the Anakin Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 5: Thoughts from you on Ronda Rousey if I could. I

690
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 5: know you talked about it on UFC Tonight last week

691
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Speaker 5: after she went through that ESPN car while she had

692
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Speaker 5: a couple of moments in which she got irritated annoyed

693
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Speaker 5: with a couple of the hosts and their line of

694
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Speaker 5: questioning or the way they delivered those questions. You know,

695
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Speaker 5: I don't watch UFC tonight, So for those that didn't

696
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: see it, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 6: I love that show.

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Speaker 5: But what was your what was your thesis statement on

699
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Speaker 5: these appearances for Ronda? I mean, did they make you

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Speaker 5: take a hard stand there on FS one or what?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, no, it don't make me really do anything,

702
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Speaker 7: but you know, it was something to talk about because

703
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Speaker 7: I felt like for Ronda, you could see that she's

704
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Speaker 7: still very much hurt by the fact that she lost.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we all remember her doing an interview for

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Speaker 7: one of her upcoming UFC fights and she was still

707
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Speaker 7: upset and crying about her loss.

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Speaker 3: In the Olympics. You know.

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Speaker 7: So she obviously has an amazing pride that she brings

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Speaker 7: in with her every time she competes. I think that's

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Speaker 7: what makes her such a special athlete. But also, you know,

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Speaker 7: I think that it inhibits her a little bit. I think,

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Speaker 7: you know, having that chip on her shoulder, you could

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Speaker 7: see she's.

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Speaker 3: Still very upset about it.

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Speaker 7: She also feels like, you know, maybe she held on

717
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Speaker 7: and fought for a little bit too long. She felt

718
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Speaker 7: the pressure of maybe carrying the UFC organization. It was

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Speaker 7: primarily on the shoulders of Connor McGregor and Ronda Rousey.

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Speaker 7: So I definitely get that. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: I think she needs to just look the positive. There's

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Speaker 7: a lot of negativity around her. You know, she was

723
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Speaker 7: very confident. Obviously she was talking a little bit of trash.

724
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Speaker 7: She got in the face of Holly Holme, and you know,

725
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 7: was obviously ramped up for that fight against a man

726
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Speaker 7: the noons as well, and put a lot into those,

727
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Speaker 7: especially that last fight with NOONEZ and trying to come back.

728
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Speaker 7: And I think a lot of people were just very

729
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Speaker 7: cruel like like people are on the internet. They love

730
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Speaker 7: seeing you fail, but at the end of the day.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's it's way more important to be to

732
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Speaker 7: be positive in those kind of instances, and it's hard, right.

733
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Speaker 7: I mean, I can't imagine she's been on every magazine cover,

734
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Speaker 7: she's been on all the big TV shows, and everyone's

735
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Speaker 7: going to chime in and throw negativity her way. But

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Speaker 7: I think she's still carrying that. She's still trying to

737
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Speaker 7: get rid of that, and with her kind of pride,

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Speaker 7: I think it's it's tough. It is tough, and she

739
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Speaker 7: it's almost like she wasn't even listening to the question.

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Speaker 7: She heard the word loss writer mma, and she just

741
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Speaker 7: like she turned off. She wasn't even there. She didn't

742
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Speaker 7: want to listen to it.

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Speaker 5: So before the Holly Home fight, we talked about Ron

744
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Speaker 5: Rowsey eventually fighting Chris Cyborg, and I said, on this

745
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 5: show a million times I thought that fight would happen

746
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Speaker 5: because I felt like Ronda didn't want to be feed

747
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Speaker 5: up in retirement, you know, her dream house in the woods,

748
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Speaker 5: thinking about what if, or hearing people at the grocery

749
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Speaker 5: store say, why didn't fight Chris Cyborg. So then the

750
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Speaker 5: narrative change profoundly. She got knocked out by Holly Holm,

751
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Speaker 5: and then Amanda Nunez, and even now, as you saw

752
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Speaker 5: if you caught any of the footage last week, she

753
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Speaker 5: doesn't want to field questions about her MMA career. I

754
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Speaker 5: thought the questions that were asked were fair. You're supposed

755
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Speaker 5: to ask questions that people want the answers to as

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Speaker 5: a journalist, So I don't fault those guys for asking

757
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Speaker 5: those questions. I guess the only thing I'll say is

758
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 5: that you really do have to prepare for the subjects

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Speaker 5: that you are going to interview, and I think you

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Speaker 5: have to know going in. Producers certainly know that when

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Speaker 5: you ask Ronda Rousey about mixed martial arts and you

762
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: don't pose it carefully or in an effective way, you're

763
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Speaker 5: gonna get stonewalled or you're not going to get a

764
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Speaker 5: thoughtful answer. Now, if the goal is sensational journalism to

765
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Speaker 5: try to set her off, then maybe the goal was accomplished.

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Speaker 6: But if the goal is to get.

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Speaker 5: A thoughtful response, I can assure you if ron A

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Speaker 5: Rowsey was on this podcast, we would be asking her

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Speaker 5: about MMA, but we would try to do it in

770
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Speaker 5: a way you know that would elicit something p So

771
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 5: a lot of sort of negativity. But big picture, to me,

772
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 5: it seems like even when she gets to that house

773
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Speaker 5: in the woods, Kenny and gets her wish to disappear

774
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Speaker 5: for a while, I'm just not sure that she's ever

775
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 5: going to be totally over these things. And maybe she

776
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 5: can get there one day, but at least clearly, I

777
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 5: don't think she is there right now, you know.

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, and I think you nailed it right there.

779
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Speaker 7: I mean, you can try to run away from your problems,

780
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 7: you can try to get away from the media and

781
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 7: all those things, and I think that that helps things. Obviously,

782
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 7: you know, getting your picture taken wherever you go and

783
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 7: having to do interviews you know, left and right.

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Speaker 3: It's certainly annoying.

785
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 7: But what it comes down to it is she needs

786
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Speaker 7: to be happy with what she's accomplished, which is something

787
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 7: that very few people on this planet will ever accomplish. Okay,

788
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 7: she was a six time or five time defending world champion,

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Speaker 7: She's a bronze medalist in the Olympics. She's competed at

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Speaker 7: the highest level of two different sports. She was the

791
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 7: face of this sport. She needs to spin it positively,

792
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 7: and I think when she's able to move past that

793
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Speaker 7: and maybe just get rid of some of the anger

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Speaker 7: and the animosity that she has, which is probably carried

795
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Speaker 7: over from a lot of the fans which also love her.

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 7: She just needs to move past that, and no matter

797
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 7: where she is, no matter how isolated she is, she's

798
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 7: still gonna have to deal with that whatever is inside.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, we both really like her and the Siam and

801
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: nice to see her smiling and doing what she loves.

802
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 5: And as she said, when she's done with the WWE,

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00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 5: she'll step away into the woods and hopefully be heard

804
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 5: from at least here and there. Now with us on

805
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 5: the guest line the fourth time we called him, this

806
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 5: is a man who exactly won hundred days from today.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know if he knows that, but DC,

808
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: one hundred days from today, you try to become the

809
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 5: second simultaneous UFC two division champion the Hall of Fame,

810
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Speaker 5: or to be Daniel Cormier is with us.

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Speaker 6: How you doing, man?

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Speaker 11: Thinks I'm good man? How about you?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 6: You're a hunch days out?

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Speaker 8: Man?

816
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 6: Does that sound like a long time to you?

817
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 11: It still feels like a while. I mean, you know,

818
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 11: as you start getting closer, you start really buckling down.

819
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 11: It then it starts to feel, you know, more like reality.

820
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 11: We're still kind of in that phase right now with like,

821
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 11: I know, I have this really really big thing coming up,

822
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 11: but I don't feel the stress of it in everything

823
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 11: just quite yet.

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Speaker 5: You have to light heavyweight Champion Daniel Cormier with us

825
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: here on the Anakin Florian podcast. We were actually talking

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Speaker 5: on the show last week about what the pay per

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00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 5: view price point would be to see you and Kabib

828
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 5: just in a wrestling match, and we think we could

829
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 5: do a pretty good number, to be honest with you. So,

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Speaker 5: so you're traveling to Brooklyn to show your support, but

831
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: I guess those expecting to hear you scream thug Rose

832
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 5: this weekend are gonna have to wait at least until

833
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 5: her next fight.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yes, there's no I couldn't call the fight. I'm

835
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 11: very open with the fact that I'm not sure I

836
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 11: could be unbiased. You know, when those guys fight Bevelasquez

837
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 11: rock Hold, I know that I would have a tough

838
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 11: time just calling the action right down the middle, and

839
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Speaker 11: I don't want to do that and put not only

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Speaker 11: myself but the fans in the situation where I'm not

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00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 11: here in the fights called as they should.

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Speaker 5: All right, A couple quick ones on the way out,

843
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 5: and we do appreciate five minutes today with the champs.

844
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Speaker 5: So when you weigh in on the morning of July sixth,

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00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 5: what will you weigh And are you gonna make us

846
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 5: wait until eleven am just because you can as a heavyweight,

847
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 5: or you're gonna come on or.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think as a heavyweight you're not in

849
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 11: that rush to just rust down and go jump on

850
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 11: the scale. You know, I don't know, but I know

851
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Speaker 11: I'll be between two thirty two thirty, between two thirty

852
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 11: and two thirty five at the heaviest, you know, but

853
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 11: you never know how the weight comes down when I

854
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 11: start training, you know, right, those early PNEs usually come

855
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 11: off pretty good.

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Speaker 7: And I don't believe a word this guy said he'll

857
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 7: be be between two sixty five. He was stealing my

858
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 7: sandwiches yesterday, knocked the cookie out of my hand.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. He's got no respect.

860
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 11: And yesterday Florians had a cookie right hey, And you

861
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 11: know Flori is not your normal guy. You know, he's

862
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 11: very as they like to say. So he eats his

863
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 11: cookie with his with his pinky finger up in the air,

864
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 11: right as he started.

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Speaker 3: That is a lot.

866
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 11: I left it, left it out of his.

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Speaker 3: Hand, and I got he's a bully in the avocad room.

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Speaker 3: I tell you no food safe.

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00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 11: He Kenny's like, don't bring me any cookies. I want

870
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 11: skelms with my coffee.

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00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 6: And it's espresso too. Oh man, Hey, so.

872
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 5: New York Stock Exchange opening bell on Friday. Daniel Cormier's

873
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 5: ringing it, so hopefully you bring our stock some good luck?

874
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 8: Man.

875
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: That's exciting.

876
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's very exciting man. You know, I was lucky

877
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 11: enough to due to closing Bill before the Olympics in

878
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 11: two thousand and eight. So oh well, Bill want to

879
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 11: go and open the stock Exchange on Fridays. That's a

880
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 11: big deal, man, big exciting thing to do and unbelievable experience,

881
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 11: you know. So I'm excited about that too.

882
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

883
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 5: Almost as big a deal as the Talk and Talker

884
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 5: podcast starring Daniel Cormier, which you can catch on iTunes

885
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 5: and all the places You and Jess podcast. All right,

886
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 5: next time we hear you on the Fox sticks as

887
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 5: when Glendale Arizona, yep.

888
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 11: Glendale Arizona. Man Pour Yer versus gatesy unbelievable fight, big

889
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 11: month for the lightweights, and I'm just excited to be

890
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 11: calling a part of the action.

891
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 5: All Right, buddy, thanks for a few minutes. We'll see

892
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 5: in Brooklyn my man John Anick later flow D you

893
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 5: see there he is. You have light heavyweight champion Daniel

894
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 5: Cormier joining us for a few minutes.

895
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 6: The brown envelope is in the mail. DC so charged

896
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 6: us today. What are you gonna do?

897
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 5: It's gonna be interesting to see his fight against step

898
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 5: A Miachich because so much was made of Conor McGregor's

899
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 5: question become a two division champion, and of course the

900
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 5: Hafayel Dosanjo's fight never happened, which is a whole different conversation.

901
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 5: But I think eventually, Kenny, once we get a couple

902
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 5: of these other pay per views in the can, the

903
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 5: conversation is gonna start turning to d C July seventh,

904
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: one hundred days from today.

905
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 8: It is.

906
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 7: It is gonna be a lot closer than people think.

907
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 7: And I think for DC, this is a guy who

908
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 7: knows how to win again. And I think also being

909
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 7: around step A Miachic, DC just finds a way to

910
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 7: just be very comfortable and he pokes in prods and

911
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 7: he finds out about who you are and what you're

912
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 7: like and kind of what annoys you, what you laugh at.

913
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 7: So DC's a very smart guy, that's the other thing.

914
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 7: And I think him being around Stepe is a huge

915
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 7: advantage for him. Also, a lot of Stepe's success comes

916
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 7: with his wrestling. He's not gonna have the advantage when

917
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 7: it comes to the wrestling department. He'll have the size advantage.

918
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 7: So I'm really fascinated who wins that aspect of the fight.

919
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 7: Who's gonna be faster? Stepe puts together some beautiful combinations,

920
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 7: and at the same time, I think for steep A,

921
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 7: he realizes what an honor it would be if he

922
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 7: was able to get a win over someone like Daniel Cormier.

923
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 7: So I can't wait for this fight. I can't wait

924
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 7: for this season of The Ultimate Fighter to see, uh,

925
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 7: you know, just the steep A and DC dynamic man.

926
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: That should be a lot of fun.

927
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 5: No, And I think you're right that DC stands to

928
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 5: gain a lot from rubbing shoulders and rubbing elbows with

929
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 5: Steve A. Miachich over those six weeks. I know he's

930
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 5: glad taping is done. And he can get focused on

931
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 5: the training. But that fight's gonna come before you know it.

932
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 5: UFC two twenty six, July seventh, in Las Vegas. All right,

933
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: let's get to Longo.

934
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minute, and I'm.

935
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: Gonna punch a hole in his fucking chips.

936
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: That's what I want.

937
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: The Ray long Minute during Ray Lin, John Nick and

938
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: Kenny Florian podcast.

939
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 6: Say, we got a good lead in for you today,

940
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 6: Ray Longo.

941
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 5: You see that UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Daniel Cormier leading

942
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 5: into the Ray Longo minute. If we don't lead the

943
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 5: show with you, we're trying to at least give you

944
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 5: a high profile guest leading into segment, because I know

945
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: that's what your agent has.

946
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 8: For nothing better than following DC.

947
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 6: All right, so here we are.

948
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 5: What can you tell us about raging ally Aquinta ready

949
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 5: to go?

950
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 7: On?

951
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 6: Point? Is he raging? What is the what is the

952
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 6: four one one on raging out?

953
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 8: He's looking good man. We had our last boring session today.

954
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 8: Very good.

955
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 12: Right now, it's just uh sticking with the game plan

956
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 12: and keeping him healthy, as it is with everybody at

957
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 12: this point.

958
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 8: But uh, really great, great sparring today. Very very Uh.

959
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 12: It was just good, very very busy, and he's he

960
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 12: looks like he's on point, and I'm happy for him.

961
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 5: It's amazing when you go back and look at what

962
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: Ally Quinta has accomplished on paper. He's one eight of

963
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: his last nine in the UFC. Do you know right

964
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 5: now whether or not he is the betting favorite against

965
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 5: Paul Felder this weekend?

966
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 8: I think somebody might have told me it was a

967
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 8: slight favorite. That's what I.

968
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 5: Understand, slight betting favorite. See you're listening, man, I like that,

969
00:43:59,560 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 5: like you.

970
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 8: Think you know, because you're a compulsive dambush.

971
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 5: I think compulsive is probably a better word than degenerate.

972
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 5: I had to google degenerate. I guess it's probably not

973
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 5: always the word I'm looking for. I think compulsive, obsessive. So,

974
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 5: but don't you think they'll ray in all seriousness that

975
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 5: that betting line. It speaks to me in some parts

976
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 5: of the body of work, because he's favored to be

977
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 5: a guy who has three straight wins by knockout, who

978
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 5: has been more active over the last eighteen months. But

979
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 5: Vegas usually knows, and you're the guy who they've installed

980
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 5: as the favorite and he's held there over the last

981
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 5: two months.

982
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, no, I gotta tell you, I'm surprised because of

983
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 12: the activity of it. But you know, it's a great

984
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 12: fight on paper for Rally. I think for both guys, really,

985
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 12: I really can't see this being a bad fight, and

986
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 12: I think I don't know what they're thinking, but I

987
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 12: think it's a you know, it's probably I would have

988
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 12: thought it was going to be even I thought maybe

989
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 12: even Felder might be the favorite because of the the activity.

990
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 8: But either way, man, it's a good fight.

991
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 5: You know, very interesting stuff there from Ray Longo. And

992
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 5: last thing, I know, you don't love everything about modern

993
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 5: day mixed martial arts in terms of the way the

994
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 5: sport is going, at least when it comes to certain conversations.

995
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 5: I bring it up in the context of ally A

996
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 5: Quinta's post fight interview this weekend. Obviously, he's had some

997
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 5: memorable ones that have really I think endeared him to

998
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: the fans. I mean, I know we'd laugh off the

999
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 5: you know, are you booing me?

1000
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 6: Fuck you?

1001
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 5: But I think it endeared him to a lot of people.

1002
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 5: It swelled his fan base without question. This is a

1003
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 5: massive night for the lightweights. Will you and Matt Sarah

1004
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 5: have a single conversation about a call out or anything

1005
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 5: if he goes out and starches Paul Felder in the

1006
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: first round. Or is that just the furthest thing from

1007
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 5: your mind right now?

1008
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 12: That that's the furthest thing from my mind right now,

1009
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 12: to be honest with you. But to why the people

1010
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 12: love him, I think, you know, it is guys that

1011
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 12: sell fights, and there's guys that obviously put on an

1012
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 12: act to try to get in there. I think what

1013
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 12: the people love about how Ally Quinton is it's genuine,

1014
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 12: it's heartfelt, you know, it's off the cuff.

1015
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 8: And it's I think they like the genuiness of it.

1016
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 12: And the guy does go out and fight, you know

1017
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 12: what I mean, he's you know, even in that fight, man,

1018
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 12: he got dropped in the first round and he came

1019
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 12: back against a really, really talented Joe Masvidal.

1020
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 8: I mean that is no joke.

1021
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 12: And you know, whether he want to lost that fight, man,

1022
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 12: he was pushing forward and he wasn't going anywhere. And

1023
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 12: I think that's what people love about him. He's he's

1024
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 12: a genuine guy. He's not looking to sell shit. That's

1025
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 12: not an act.

1026
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 8: It's who he is. And that's what he felt, you

1027
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 8: know what I mean.

1028
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 12: And I did have a conversation with him in Virginia

1029
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 12: right after that, sure, while we were walking back.

1030
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 8: But now I don't think so. But now that you

1031
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 8: bring it up, maybe we will. But I wasn't.

1032
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 12: I definitely was the furthest thing from my mind. I'm

1033
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 12: really he's very excited about this fight, and I really

1034
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 12: just want him to win the fight. And I think

1035
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 12: just or really just to performs the maximum capacity, can

1036
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 12: have fun, go out there and just you know, does

1037
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 12: do what he does in sparring and just have a bliss,

1038
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 12: you know, and uh, you know, put on a good

1039
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 12: show for the fans.

1040
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 8: I think that's what it's coming down to.

1041
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ali Quent is only selling houses, ladies and gentlemen. Well,

1042
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 6: we wish you.

1043
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 5: All the best. We wish out all the best. I

1044
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 5: look forward to seeing you later this week in Brooklyn.

1045
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 5: And uh, if if you're in need of a last

1046
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 5: minute podcast guest or something, you know, I'd be happy

1047
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 5: to make an appearance.

1048
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 6: I know your podcast is blowing up.

1049
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: He wants rating Zank, he wants to.

1050
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 5: Want when he was coming into New York, I'm just

1051
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 5: looking for a guest spot so I can promote the

1052
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 5: floor in an Antek podcast.

1053
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 8: You know what, man's room for everybody that's good.

1054
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 5: I get in, I get in Thursday and maybe we

1055
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 5: can hit some pads Friday morning.

1056
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 6: You got nothing going on, so.

1057
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 12: I'll be giving out that pre fight speech about don't

1058
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 12: whatever you do, don't attack Annik on the microphone.

1059
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's getting Joe Rogan this weekend.

1060
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 8: So he's getting Rogangan Rogan, Joe probably them on imposed.

1061
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 7: To do that weight cut with a quint to two

1062
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 7: when he's out there too.

1063
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll cut weight with Al. That's a good idea.

1064
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Now Al doesn't that

1065
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 8: he has a good weight cut out. He's not one

1066
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 8: of those guys that you struggle with. So that's all good.

1067
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 5: Awesome, all right, man, keep smiling, have a good fight week.

1068
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: We will see you in a few days. All right, awesome, guys,

1069
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: take you is Raymond Peter Longo the Ray Longo Minute

1070
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 5: every week here on the Annik.

1071
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Speaker 6: And Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 5: picks UFC two twenty three styleist Go.

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00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: It's the main Event challenge.

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00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 7: The time is.

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00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: Most definitely.

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00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 10: Hi finished, Fine, how do you everything?

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00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 3: Boss?

1092
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 4: We'll do win the main event challenge. John Hennick and

1093
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Podcast All right, joining us to make picks today.

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00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 5: We don't update the standings because the first time in

1096
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 5: three years of this show, the host fell asleep at

1097
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 5: the wheel and he doesn't have the standings in front

1098
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 5: of him, So we are right to the guest line

1099
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 5: out of Staten Island, New York. Short hop over the Bridge.

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Speaker 5: He'll be inside Barclay Center and Brooklyn Saturday night. Dallas

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00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 5: Singer is with us. Dallas, welcome, man, thanks for the

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00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 5: time today.

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00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 6: Man, how are you?

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00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 8: Hey?

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00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 13: Guys, thanks for having I mean, I really appreciate you.

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00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 6: You got nicer hair, You got better hair than Kenny Florida.

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00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: So, Dallas, I'm told you're a long time listener to

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00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 5: the podcast and a big, big time Kenny Florian fan too.

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00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 6: Is that accurate?

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00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 13: Yes, that's one hundred accurate, A big fan of Kenny.

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00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 13: Kenny finish his fights, but I finished fight.

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Speaker 3: Pick you just put them on the spot. What is

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00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: he gonna say? No, I'm not a Kenny Florian fan.

1114
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 3: Guys that guys that thank you, man, I appreciate it.

1115
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 5: See one time, though, we'll have someone on and they'll say,

1116
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 5: you know, hey, man, I wasn't the biggest fan of

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00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 5: Ken Flow.

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00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: I would love that.

1119
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 5: Not really you like a cup of tea? Yeah, just

1120
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 5: like when when when your when your wife gets pregnant and.

1121
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 6: It's like the third kid and you're forty.

1122
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 5: If you want someone to give you their condolences, maybe

1123
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 5: instead of their congratulations. All right, we got a lot

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00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 5: of picks today, so I'm gonna stop wasting time. So

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Speaker 5: not not three picks today, not five, not seven, not nine,

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Speaker 5: ten picks a piece five on the main card. Five

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00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 5: prelim quick picks start first fight out of the shoot

1128
00:50:58,480 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 5: on pay per view. We talked about it with Ray

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00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 5: long Ago, Ally Aquinta right now the minus one thirty

1130
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 5: five favorite, Paul Felder, slight underdog plus one oh five. Felder,

1131
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: as many of you know, as won three straight all

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00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 5: by knockout five of six overall. Iaquinta has won his

1133
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 5: last five dallas.

1134
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: Who do you like here?

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00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 5: Close fight at least on paper, Ally Aquinta or Paul Felder, Well,

1136
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 5: both these.

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00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 13: Guys are great striker as we knock out power. I've

1138
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 13: looked forward to this matchup since they first started.

1139
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 11: Booking at two eighteen.

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00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 13: To me, Felder has more weapons that he can utilize

1141
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 13: in the striking department. I love all the guys coming

1142
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 13: out of Sara Longo, but I'm going with the dog

1143
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 13: Felber long Ago thrown out of New York.

1144
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 5: I know, I mean not standing by your fellow New Yorkers.

1145
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 5: Maybe you'll be rooting for eye Quinta, but hopefully you're

1146
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: rooting with your pick. It is Felder at plus one

1147
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 5: oh five Kendy. Obviously, if I was giving you one

1148
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 5: hundred bucks to go to the betting window, it's a

1149
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 5: little bit different than in our scoring system. You do

1150
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 5: get two points for Felder, just one for Ally quint

1151
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if that sways you.

1152
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 6: How do you see this fight? Planet?

1153
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 7: This is a tough one. I really love both these guys.

1154
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 7: I think Alaiaquinta probably punches harder. I think he's a

1155
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 7: guy that, if he goes forward, is really gonna pose

1156
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 7: a lot of problems for Felder. Felder has more weapons though,

1157
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 7: in my mind, And what really concerns me is that

1158
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 7: knee injury of Aliaquinta.

1159
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: He's been dealing with it.

1160
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 7: It's one of those things I feel like that I

1161
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 7: don't know, it could go at any time. And Felder

1162
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 7: with those leg kicks and the way he likes to

1163
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 7: crush that lead leg, I don't know. I think I

1164
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 7: got to give the advantage there to Felder. I'm a

1165
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 7: little worried about the health of Ally Aquinta. Both these

1166
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 7: guys can win this fight. It's a close one, but

1167
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna give the nod to Felder here.

1168
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 6: All right.

1169
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 5: Also at one hundred and fifty five pounds. On the

1170
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 5: main card, Boys Ultimate Fighter Live winner Michael Kiesa returning here.

1171
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 5: He's the minus one thirty five favorite against Anthony Anthony

1172
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 5: Showtime Pettis. Pettis plus one oh five right now, So

1173
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 5: I think at times Pettis has been favored depending on

1174
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 5: where you look, but at least for our purposes, we

1175
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 5: will proceed with Kiesa as the favorite Dallas. Which way

1176
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 5: you going, Michael Kisa or Anthony Chotime Pettis.

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00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 13: To me, this is sort of a standard graple of

1178
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 13: a strength to match up. I mean, Showtime has improved

1179
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 13: wrestling and thanks to Izzy style, and he could keep

1180
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 13: the fight standing even it's very hard to submit him.

1181
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 13: I think he'll be able to get back to his feet,

1182
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 13: and I'm just not convinced that the Showtime magic is gone.

1183
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 13: I'm going with Pettis for the win to get back

1184
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 13: inside the top ten of lightweight, all right.

1185
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 5: Pettis at plus one zero five for Dallas. So Kenny

1186
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 5: Kiss has been out since that fight in Oklahoma City.

1187
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 5: The main event against Kevin Lee that that was all

1188
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 5: the way back in June of last year. Pettis has

1189
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 5: dropped two of three, the last of which the main

1190
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 5: event to Dustin Pourier in November. Another close fight here

1191
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 5: at one fifty five Flow would you like?

1192
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 7: And this one concerns me and might be concerning for

1193
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 7: the Pettis camp here because Kiyosa is a grinder and

1194
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 7: Pettis has had trouble with guys that try to wrestle

1195
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 7: him and try to grind him down. But I do

1196
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 7: think that Pettis has improved his wrestling. I do think

1197
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 7: he has a huge advantage on the feet against ki Yes.

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00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 7: Kisa is very tall, though, but I think with Kisa

1199
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 7: coming out in this, he's a self paw right, so

1200
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 7: I think that is going to be trouble for him.

1201
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 7: I think Pettis does very well against other sal pause,

1202
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 7: so I'm gonna go with showtime here, all.

1203
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 5: Right, showtime Pettis for Ken Flow as well. Every time

1204
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 5: Michael Kiessa fights, I have to read what is my

1205
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 5: all time favorite tweet from Jeff Gallo May twenty third,

1206
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen from UFC one seventy three. Michael Kissa looks

1207
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 5: like he's been living on a bus in Alaska eating

1208
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 5: poisonous plants.

1209
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 7: That is a reference to mccandlest I think in that book,

1210
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 7: what is that the into the Wild, the Wild?

1211
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, the hashtags into the wild hard sun so

1212
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 5: I didn't even know the reference, right, But he does

1213
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 5: at times look like he has been living on a

1214
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 5: bus eating poisonous plants. But he's cleaned up his act

1215
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 5: a little bit, so doesn't look like he's been eating

1216
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 5: poison anymore. All right, Feature Bell guys on the main

1217
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 5: cart here at featherweight boss since Calvin Cater, Brazil's Henato Moykano.

1218
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: Cater right now minus one fifty five comeback on Moikano

1219
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 5: at plus one twenty five. Cater a win over Shane

1220
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: Bergos earlier this year in his native Massachusetts, his tenth

1221
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 5: in a row. He is eighteen and two, two to

1222
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 5: zero in the UFC. Moykano eleven to one and one.

1223
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 5: Dallas loan professional loss to Brian t City or Tega Dallas.

1224
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 5: Who's it going to be here, Moykano or Cater?

1225
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 10: You know?

1226
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 13: I see Moikano trying to keep this fight at range

1227
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 13: with some leg kicks, body kicks, but Cater's much more technical.

1228
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 13: He really impressed me with that third round finish of

1229
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 13: Shane Burgos. I'm going to go with the favorite this time,

1230
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 13: picking Calvin Cater.

1231
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 5: Calvin Cater the pick to click for Dallas Kenny. For me,

1232
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 5: it's still kind of hard to quantify how high the

1233
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 5: ceiling is for Calvin Cater because he just has this

1234
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 5: bulk of regional experience. So far, so good in the

1235
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 5: big show, but I would think, uh, his toughest test

1236
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 5: to date here against the Brazilian.

1237
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 7: Well, Dallas needs to stop having these great picks here

1238
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 7: because I'm going to go with Calvin Cator as well.

1239
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 7: He impressed that he impressed the hell out of me

1240
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 7: against Burgos. Burgos is a tough out for anybody tall

1241
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 7: for the division, tricky and slick fighter, a guy who

1242
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 7: really knows how to stay composed, and Cater I think

1243
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 7: is really coming into his own man. I think that

1244
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 7: win over Burgos gave him even more confidence. I see

1245
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 7: him taking taking Moyicatto out on the feet.

1246
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 5: All right, Calvin Cater for both of you at minus

1247
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 5: one fifty five. That brings us to the co main

1248
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 5: event for the UFC Straweight Championship This was the fight

1249
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 5: I was most looking forward to getting Ken Flow's selection

1250
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 5: on Rose nama Unis first defense. She will make it

1251
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 5: as a slight underdog plus one ten. You want to

1252
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 5: Young J check minus one forty. She is favored to

1253
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 5: win her belt back. We have talked at length about

1254
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 5: this fight, as has the former champion. You want to

1255
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 5: Young J check about her weight cutting issues. She has

1256
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 5: employed the likes of George Lockhart and Daniel Leath. She

1257
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 5: is at one hundred and twenty two and a half

1258
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 5: pounds ten or eleven days out.

1259
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 6: All good signs.

1260
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 5: The question is Dallas who leaves Brooklyn as the UFC's

1261
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 5: straweight champion.

1262
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 13: You know I'm really pumped for this rematch. I know

1263
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 13: you want to saying her wee cut had a left

1264
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 13: to do with the loss, But I think their Rose

1265
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 13: really mastered at Shrevar Whitman's striking system and bad we

1266
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 13: cut or not, I think Lightning's gonna strike twice. Doug

1267
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 13: Rose will win by knockout again, this time in the

1268
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 13: second round, and I know DC is not on the broadcast,

1269
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 13: so leads it up to you, Johnson, Doug Rose champ.

1270
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 6: I'll see what i can do. I will see what

1271
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 6: I can do.

1272
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: Rose nam Unis round two t KO for Dallas Ken

1273
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 5: follow the rematch here they fought for the first time

1274
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 5: in November. They do it again here in a few

1275
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 5: short days. Which side you want?

1276
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 3: Man, my heart, my heart breaks here for this one is.

1277
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 7: I really like both these girls, Rose now Unis especially

1278
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 7: just as nice and as sweet as a person as

1279
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 7: they come.

1280
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 3: Listen.

1281
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 7: I think we will end up seeing a trilogy fight

1282
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 7: between these women. I do think you want a Young

1283
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 7: j Check will win this fight. I think it's going

1284
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 7: to be a close one. I think she wins by decision.

1285
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 7: Something just wasn't right in Yuana, and that doesn't mean

1286
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 7: noam Munus can't beat her again. I think Na Munis

1287
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 7: absolutely has the skills to beat Yoanna Young j Check,

1288
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 7: either on the feet or on the ground. Now Munus

1289
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 7: certainly has the advantage on the mat. She's much better

1290
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 7: with her submissions there. I think for Yoanna Young j

1291
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 7: Check though a couple things. She didn't have the best

1292
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 7: weight cut in that fight, and she very much is

1293
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 7: that kind of fighter that once she gets into her rhythm,

1294
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 7: she just starts to pull away from you.

1295
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: She never was able to get into her rhythm rose.

1296
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 7: Now Munus's pressure was the main cause for that, but

1297
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 7: also she just was not moving with the same speech.

1298
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 7: She wasn't throwing the same combinations. Her head didn't seem

1299
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Speaker 7: right heading into this one. I think Yu wanna get

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00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 7: the win by decision here, as much as that breaks

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00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 7: my heart here, and I've said, I'm just looking forward

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00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 7: to twenty five minutes potentially in a championship fight, because

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00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 7: I think it would be wildly entertaining.

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00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 6: And yeah, we'll see.

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00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 5: I thought most telling from our conversation with Mike Brown

1306
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 5: last week was when he was talking about Joanna Young Jcheck.

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00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 5: He said most fighters wouldn't have been made weight. And

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00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 5: when you talk about the percentage of her body sixteen.

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00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 7: Thousand a day, dude, that that was more than what

1310
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 7: I did at one forty five.

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00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 6: I think it's nuts the percentage of her body weight.

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00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 6: We'll see.

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00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 5: Rosnama Unit is trying to make it too straight over

1314
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 5: the former strawweight queen. Now some quick picks here, so

1315
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 5: no analysis needed. Certainly, feel free to give your two

1316
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 5: cents if you've got something, or if you're particularly strong

1317
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 5: on one side, or you feel convicted by all means.

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00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 5: Dallas but otherwise we just want winners here. Carolynakvial Keevich

1319
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 5: minus one eighty five, Flice Herok plus one fifty. Herrok

1320
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: has won four in a row, never been closer to

1321
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 5: a title shot than she is right now. Covil Keevich

1322
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 5: and Felice Herrok da Dallas?

1323
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 6: Who do you like?

1324
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 13: Too much?

1325
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 11: High level experience?

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00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 13: I'm going Covil Kievich.

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00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 6: Covil Keevich for Dallas. Can flow your thoughts?

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00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 8: All right?

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00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: I gotta go the opposite way here. I need one

1330
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 3: to go the other way than Dallas, So.

1331
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Felice here,

1332
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 5: and I would think some value there plus one fifty.

1333
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 5: So this one at flyweight ray Borg minus two seventy

1334
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 5: brand Moreno plus two ten. I mean, I love me

1335
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 5: some ray Borg Dallas, but this line seems a bit

1336
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 5: wide to me. I mean, Moreno can do some things.

1337
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 6: Who do you like here? In this one?

1338
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 13: You know they both scramble a lot, and you're right,

1339
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 13: you can definitely do some things. But I'm serving with

1340
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 13: ray Borg. I feel like he's gonna catching his permission.

1341
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 6: Ken Flowborg Moreno, which way you're going I like both

1342
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 6: these guys.

1343
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 7: I really like Moreno great kid. I just think Borg

1344
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 7: is a little bit sharper.

1345
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: On the mat, all right.

1346
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 5: Evan Dunham has not lost since twenty fourteen. Coming off

1347
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 5: a draw against Benil darg Use, he was to face

1348
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 5: mayorbeck Tysumov this weekend instead, the relatively short noticed replacement

1349
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 5: Olivier Obama Mercia ends up being a bigger fight, I

1350
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 5: think according to a lot of people, certainly in Canada,

1351
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 5: Dunham minus one thirty five OAM is plus one oh

1352
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 5: five Dallas.

1353
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: Who do you like?

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01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 13: I'm going with the dog Oam ken Flow.

1355
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 5: You know Obama Mercia pretty well. Obviously Dunham and you

1356
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 5: Uh were in the US see at the same time.

1357
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 6: What do you think here?

1358
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 7: Oh geez, you know this is a tough one. I

1359
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 7: think Oam has some good takedowns, might have the advantage there.

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 7: I think Dunham Uh is very season. The question is

1361
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 7: is he two season? Has he been fighting for too long?

1362
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 7: I think he still has it in him though. I'm

1363
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 7: gonna go with Evan Dunham here, all right.

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01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 5: In last two quick fellas, Joe Loson minus one seventy

1365
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 5: five Chris Gritzmocker plus one forty five Dallas.

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01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 13: I'm taking j Low Jill, Losan.

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01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 6: Losan Kent Flow and he lean there Losan gritz Maker.

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01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, going with los On, going with the Boston Boy,

1369
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 3: all right.

1370
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 5: And then Alex Casceras minus one forty Artem Labov plus

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01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 5: one ten Dallas, make the tenth one count, kid, who

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01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 5: do you like?

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 13: I'm taking the underdog, the goat as they call him,

1374
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 13: the Siberian Express.

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 5: I'm taking, oh, yes, the Siberian Express, Artem Labov, Kent

1376
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 5: Flow Labov Casceras.

1377
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 6: Nice and flowy are tem nice and.

1378
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 3: Flowy are time.

1379
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna to go with our to

1380
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 7: blowboff as well. Damn it, Dallas about it? Hey, we're

1381
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 7: never having Dallas on the show ever again. How's that

1382
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 7: too good?

1383
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 10: No?

1384
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 7: I think he's too good, dude.

1385
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 6: Hey Dallas, thank you man for the time and the

1386
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 6: thought you put into it.

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01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 11: Man.

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01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 6: We will see you in Barclay Center this Saturday night. Kid,

1389
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 6: appreciate it.

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 11: I appreciate the time.

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01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 13: Unfortunately I won't be there, but I'll be watching.

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01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: Great job, Dallas.

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 5: All right, Dallas, if you need any tickets, just it's

1394
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 5: at Kenny Floorian on Twitter.

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01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 3: You know that I got no pull anymore, man, You

1396
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 3: know that.

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01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you annex number. I'm gonna tweet it out,

1399
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 3: no problem.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I tell you, I don't know if we're sold out.

1401
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 5: I don't know what the fight's gonna do on pay

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01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 5: per view, but I can tell you that tickets have

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01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: been hard to come by, all right.

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01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 5: producer Bobby Razik. His film Mask, The Life and Times

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Speaker 5: of Charles mask Lewis available as of April third on

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Speaker 6: Bobby, thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 5: Man, I know your relationship with the late Charles mask

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Speaker 5: Lewis had a lot of depth to it, Man, so

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Speaker 5: this has got to be a project that had its

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Speaker 5: challenges and had some emotions come out of you.

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Speaker 6: With it works too. I've done it. I've been there, man,

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Speaker 6: I'm ready.

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Speaker 10: I'm ready. It was very hard.

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Speaker 14: Jonathan took a lot of time. It was really a

1444
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 14: seven year process to make this film. I kind of

1445
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 14: consider myself like I was kind of thinking this morning,

1446
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 14: I'm like a commercial drug dealer. Basically, I'll flip my

1447
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 14: commercials to make this movie, and we'll do another commercial.

1448
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 14: Flip it, do another commercial, and so yeah, it was

1449
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Speaker 14: a very brutal, long experience.

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Speaker 5: So the trailer is super powerful, as powerful as two

1451
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 5: or three minutes can be, but I think also chilling.

1452
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 5: Josh Barnett says of Mask in It quote, he was

1453
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 5: one of the true caretakers of MMA at a grassroots level,

1454
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 5: and I gotta think Bobby part of the impetus for

1455
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 5: this project was for this younger generation of fans who

1456
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 5: just have no idea quite how instrumental this individual was.

1457
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 5: They see his name on the octagon, but they don't

1458
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 5: quite understand the depth of the contribution he made early on.

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01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's like Muhammad Ali said

1460
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 14: after I think Leon Spinks beat him, like you might

1461
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 14: be the latest, but I'm the greatest. I mean, you know,

1462
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 14: in combat sports is a very quick turnover name faces people.

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01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 14: I mean, some of the new fans won't even know

1464
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 14: who Goberg is now. So it's like, you know, just

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01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 14: the way the fans are in combat sports, they move

1466
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 14: very quickly.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, it would be great to you know, you.

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01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 14: Know, introduce the fans to who mass was and kind

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 14: of give them like almost like a history lesson. You know,

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Speaker 14: it's been like a great history lesson and who Charles was.

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Speaker 10: And the early incubation of the sport.

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Speaker 7: You know, well, I've seen the movie Bobby and it's amazing.

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01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 7: It definitely that's the thing that really comes across. And

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01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 7: you know, I remember talking to Masks many times, and

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01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 7: his charisma and the way he came across being so

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01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 7: genuine and so charismatic was something that was very special.

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Speaker 3: Was that part of the reason why you made this movie.

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 14: I was actually one of the guys who helped incubate

1479
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 14: tap Out. I was a fond of tap Out films.

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01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 14: I did all their media, I did all their commercials. Yeah,

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01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 14: I kind of started with the company. So basically the

1482
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 14: goal was to well, basically what happened was every time

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01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 14: I'll do a commercial and always film a little bit

1484
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 14: of Charles and always film a little bit of Childs

1485
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 14: And around six months prior to him dying, I had

1486
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 14: a weird feeling that actually kind of interview him more

1487
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 14: and get more information. So every time I'd do commercial,

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01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 14: I'd always kind of filter a little bit of Charles.

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01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 14: So when he did pass had this incredible body of work,

1490
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 14: and so piecing it together was was basically just getting

1491
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 14: that body of work and making a film. So it

1492
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 14: was always in my heart to do a piece on him.

1493
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 14: Because I did the film called Write the Passage, like

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01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 14: I think fifteen years ago. It was just kind of

1495
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 14: like an early film in a sport. So yeah, it

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01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 14: was something that I felt I had the assets to do.

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Speaker 7: You know, obviously that the sport came a long way

1498
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 7: and Mask played a huge part in that and really

1499
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 7: advancing the sport, getting people to really know about the culture.

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Speaker 7: What do you think Mask would say about the current

1501
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 7: state of mixed martial art?

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01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 14: I think about that a lot, Kenny. I mean, so

1503
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 14: much has changed since Charles died. It's been almost ten

1504
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 14: years since Charles passed, is actually his I think it's

1505
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 14: nine to ten year was an eleventh, So.

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Speaker 10: Many things to change.

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Speaker 14: I mean, we have the Fox deal, you can now

1508
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 14: watch you know you've see on a Sunday morning with

1509
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 14: your coffee. I think he would have liked it. I

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01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 14: think he would have liked it. I think he would

1511
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 14: have liked the fact that you know that you've seen

1512
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 14: has become mainstream. When he passed, it was just in

1513
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 14: that turnover period. We didn't have the Fox still yet,

1514
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 14: so you couldn't really see it on like any kind

1515
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 14: of you know, cable TV and any thing. So I

1516
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 14: think he would have loved that. You know, you don't

1517
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 14: need to explain to people what MMA was. Kind of

1518
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 14: like when you was fighting, I think you had to

1519
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 14: explain it.

1520
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 6: You know what you did all the time.

1521
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 14: Yeah, the cage, Yeah, you've probably had that conversation. But

1522
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 14: like now that conversation isn't there. I think he would

1523
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 14: have loved where MMA is going. And also it's sad

1524
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 14: he didn't see like, you know, guys like you know,

1525
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 14: Ronda or or Conor McGregor. You know, it's you know,

1526
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 14: so many things he missed, you know, So it's kind

1527
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 14: of sad there. But I think you would have loved it.

1528
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 6: Bobby Razik with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast.

1529
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 5: The film Mask can be yours on April third, So

1530
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 5: it sounded like this was something that was in the

1531
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 5: back of your mind for a long time. It is

1532
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 5: nine years March of twenty eighteen since his passing back

1533
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 5: in two thousand and nine. So when did you ultimately

1534
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 5: decide to devote the time and the resources to doing

1535
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 5: a project Unmask.

1536
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 14: Well, I have the largest stop footage in history of

1537
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 14: historical andi may footage, and I only right the trademark

1538
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 14: history of Emma.

1539
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 10: So basically I round two eleven.

1540
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 14: I was kind of going through my library having a

1541
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 14: look what I have available, and every time I was

1542
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 14: going to library, Masks is always popping up. So I

1543
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 14: met an investor, Sane Teeter. He gave me the initial

1544
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 14: funding and so we basically started two eleven when I

1545
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 14: ran out of money and put it in the burner,

1546
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 14: and then you know, I'll flip a commercial, go back

1547
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 14: to it again, put it back in the burner. So

1548
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 14: I round two eleven is kind of when I incubated

1549
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 14: Mask and decided to kind of really go forward. So

1550
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 14: I think like ten eleven, maybe two or three years

1551
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 14: after he died.

1552
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 5: So it's hard to get great insight to a film.

1553
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 5: I would point people to the trailer and certainly you

1554
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 5: can access it on Amazon and iTunes come April third.

1555
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 5: But if your goal going in was to sort of

1556
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 5: secure his legacy, is there anything in the film, a

1557
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 5: little anecdote or otherwise you could point us to that

1558
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 5: sort of helps tell his story and helps, at least

1559
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 5: in your mind, do what you set out to do

1560
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 5: secure legacy that really I think needed to be secured

1561
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 5: in the sport that we all hold pretty dear well.

1562
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 14: I mean, uh, nothing, Kenny, you saw an older cut

1563
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 14: in the film, So basically I've expanded on that.

1564
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 10: Oh cool. So yeah, so there's like an additional ten minutes.

1565
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 10: Here's a whole bunch of new things.

1566
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 14: Is when I got the deal with Gravitar, they were like, well,

1567
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 14: can you expand on this a little bit? You know

1568
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 14: from the earlier count. So I was like, yeah, totally,

1569
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 14: there's more stuff I wanted to put in there. To

1570
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 14: ask your question, John, like, are you saying is there

1571
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 14: one part of the film that really stands out for me?

1572
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 10: Or yeah?

1573
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 5: Or just yeah, anything that I think would give insight

1574
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 5: at least to our listeners as to how special a

1575
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 5: guy this was. I mean I only met him once,

1576
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 5: but he just had a way about him that he

1577
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 5: made an impression on you for life in those thirty

1578
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 5: or sixty seconds, you.

1579
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 10: Know, and Kenny might notice too. I mean, Charles had

1580
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 10: a very unique way of communicating with people. It also

1581
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 10: made me feel very special.

1582
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 14: For years and years I thought I was INCREDI special,

1583
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 14: and then when I went to his funeral, I'll hear

1584
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 14: other people talk and like he had the ability to

1585
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 14: make you feel special in his communication, like you was

1586
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 14: the one that, you know, kind of like made him

1587
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 14: feel special, and he had this weird way of communicating

1588
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 14: where you felt you was the one that he was

1589
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 14: incredibly big in his life, and he would do that

1590
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 14: to everyone. So he end these kind of like quotes

1591
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 14: for you, like every time you see me, his raisor Reza,

1592
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 14: and he had the nickname, and you know, we'd have

1593
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 14: this crazy communication, but he would have that with everyone.

1594
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 14: So I think the biggest ability was that he had

1595
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 14: an ability to, you know, make you feel special. And

1596
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 14: I know if you experienced that, Kenny did he have

1597
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 14: a kind of wave communicating with you.

1598
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: Too, without a doubt, without a doubt.

1599
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 7: And I think one thing that came across in your

1600
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 7: movie or was the fact that he didn't come from

1601
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 7: this happy special place. Either he he had demons coming up,

1602
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 7: and I think you saw a guy who had defeated

1603
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 7: and moved past those demons and realized it's only through

1604
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 7: positivity that he can really rise above. And once he

1605
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 7: held on to that, he passed that on to every

1606
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 7: single I have chills thinking about this. I remember talking

1607
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 7: to him on an airplane going from I think Vegas

1608
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 7: to Boston, and just his energy that came across was

1609
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 7: so special.

1610
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 3: He was so positive and you carried that with you.

1611
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 3: He passed that on to you. So just a really

1612
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 3: really special human being.

1613
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 10: Absolutely.

1614
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 14: I mean, I mean he was a black man from

1615
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 14: sam Bernardino who kind of came from nothing and he

1616
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 14: just had to fight to get everything he wanted in life.

1617
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 10: And so watching his story, even in a business level,

1618
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 10: was incredible. Always kind of like you know, kind of

1619
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 10: growing up.

1620
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 14: In Tottenham, I didn't have any role models growing up,

1621
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 14: especially I came from a very impoverished area, drugs, nobody

1622
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 14: really didn't think in life. And in meeting Charles, seeing

1623
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 14: this amount of color, like pushing forward, breaking barriers, going

1624
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 14: to a new level. He was also like he was

1625
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 14: kind of like a mentor and a friend too, and

1626
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 14: just was always you know, I always was in awe

1627
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 14: of him, you know what I mean. He was at

1628
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 14: my Denzel Washington.

1629
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 8: Well.

1630
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 5: And I think even those of us that admired him

1631
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 5: from Afar and didn't have the super close personal relationship

1632
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 5: sort of put him on that pedestal, were in awe

1633
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 5: of the persona. The film suggests that he was an

1634
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 5: introvert Bobby, which is something that I never expected to hear.

1635
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 10: Man He was a crazy introvert.

1636
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 14: He would go into the Mass character and be gregarious

1637
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 14: and fun loving and crazy. But when he took up that,

1638
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 14: when he took up that makeup, when he took out,

1639
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 14: when he took out Mass, he was very insecure. He

1640
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 14: was very quiet, wasn't a great communicator, was a little

1641
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 14: bit odd, had a hard time, you know, speaking to people.

1642
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 14: I remember I was working in a nightclub called an

1643
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 14: Eyebar as a bouncer, and we had worked in my

1644
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 14: first film, Rice and Passage, so I hadn't seen him

1645
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 14: like around a year, and I saw him in the

1646
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 14: club and he didn't know I was a bouncer of

1647
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 14: the club, and I just went up to him and

1648
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 14: started speaking to him, and we had lost touch for

1649
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 14: like around a year, and I remember he was completely

1650
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 14: stuttering then how to communicating me, And I was like,

1651
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 14: because he didn't have That was the first time I

1652
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 14: saw him about Mass.

1653
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 10: He was like normal Charles Lewis, and I remember he

1654
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 10: was completely bumbling.

1655
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 14: It was just like probably fascinating to see him go

1656
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 14: from this crazy big character too, like you know, simple

1657
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 14: Clark Ken, you know, and that really.

1658
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 3: Was his superhero costume, and that was his costume, you know.

1659
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 10: Yes, he was greatly implused by a kiss.

1660
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 14: He loved kiss and he wanted to you know, you know,

1661
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 14: the costume and the superheroes away from to get out

1662
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 14: of his character. And nextually before he died, we were

1663
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 14: basically working on another character where he was going to

1664
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 14: be the evil Mass.

1665
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 10: So he had Charles Lewis mask, he wanted to do good.

1666
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 14: Then he had this crazy evil mask, and that was

1667
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 14: the kind of character we see the commercial when he

1668
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 14: jumps off the building and then he kind of morphs

1669
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 14: into his animal. So he always liked to explore with

1670
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 14: different characters, different personas, kind.

1671
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 10: Of like the guy man in the moon. What's his

1672
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 10: name again?

1673
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, Andy Kupman was very complicated and you know, and

1674
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 14: I think Charles was incredibly, incredibly complicated, and you know,

1675
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 14: if you didn't understand that while welcome him, it could

1676
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:14,839
Speaker 14: be a kind of problem sometimes.

1677
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1678
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 5: Well, I'm excited to watch the film and get to

1679
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 5: know this great human being even more. Mask available this

1680
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 5: week on Amazon, iTunes, Google Play, several other places as well.

1681
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 5: Bobby Razik, good to talk to you, man. We wish

1682
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 5: you all the best with the film, and and props

1683
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 5: to you man for paying this type of tribute to

1684
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 5: your dear friend. So congratulations on it and hopefully we

1685
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 5: can get the word out for it. Thanks for a

1686
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 5: few minutes today.

1687
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 6: My man.

1688
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 14: Thank you, Jonathan, Thank you Kenny. I'm gonna go right

1689
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 14: to my laptop. I'm going to press a button and

1690
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 14: I expect an instant loan.

1691
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 5: Ah yeah, go get that right right now, get all

1692
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 5: over it quick and loans dot com No rocket mortgage

1693
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 5: dot com slat, I'm giving.

1694
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 10: The wrong rocket mortgage baby one button form.

1695
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 6: Heybody, we'll talk soon, all right.

1696
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 10: I'm expected the button that want to get to mention.

1697
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 3: Your living in perfect.

1698
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 6: All right, talking to you manage.

1699
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 5: Dot com slash a n I K see Bobby doesn't

1700
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 5: know Ken flows downsized a little bit.

1701
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 6: To keep up, Kenny.

1702
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 5: I know you knew Mask well though, and sort of

1703
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 5: part of your prime dubtailed with when he was doing

1704
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 5: a lot of things in the space. So, uh, you

1705
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 5: saw the movie and I'm excited to see it here

1706
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 5: in the next couple of weeks.

1707
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 7: It's powerful, man, I I cried at least once. He

1708
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 7: was really was a charismatic guy. And I'll be honest

1709
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 7: with you, I never would have signed with tap Out

1710
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 7: if it wasn't for Charles mask Lewis. Just the way

1711
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 7: that he communicated to me, the realness and and what

1712
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 7: he portrayed was was quite special.

1713
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely check it out.

1714
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 7: You guys have to see it if you wanted to

1715
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 7: understand where the sport is now, go see where where

1716
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 7: we were and where he came from, and what kind

1717
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 7: of trials and tribulations he came through trying to explain

1718
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 7: to people what mixed martial arts is and.

1719
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 5: Was ken full you got BattleBots going on. So I

1720
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 5: trust I will not see you on the desk for

1721
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 5: UFC two twenty three, Is that right.

1722
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 7: No, sir, Unfortunately I won't be there at the desk.

1723
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 7: That was one I was really looking.

1724
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 6: Forward to man, are you gonna be able to watch

1725
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 6: this thing live though? Or probably not?

1726
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, No, I think I will be able to. Yeah,

1727
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: for sure. I'm gonna do whatever it takes to make

1728
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 3: that happen.

1729
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 5: All right, and I will be on the call with

1730
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 5: Joe Rogan Jimmy Smith. I hope you'll tune in prelim's

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Speaker 6: All right, dad, we'll do it for this week.

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Speaker 5: Thank you to our guest Daniel Cormier, Bobby Razik, Ray Longo,

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Speaker 5: Dallas Singer on the picks with that for the flow,

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