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Speaker 2: over this right now, CEO America's DWS.

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Speaker 3: How'd your view change after last week?

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Speaker 4: Not much a little bit of a surprise with the

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Speaker 4: overall reaction on the legendary yen care trade and you

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Speaker 4: know the way it really hit Japanese stocks. We do

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Speaker 4: think there's a buy an opportunity in Japan and I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, the yen carry trade is important, but American investors,

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Speaker 4: particularly American technology investors, they really shouldn't be scared off

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Speaker 4: by that phenomenon. I would tell you that while we

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Speaker 4: were watching global markets and all kinds of other issues

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Speaker 4: in the world, we were paying attention to earning season.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say right up front that I have

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Speaker 4: a different take on the second quarter earning season than

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Speaker 4: what many are saying. While it's true that the growth

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Speaker 4: overall is strong ten percent year on year, and even

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Speaker 4: excluding the Magnificent seven Grade eight it's up about four percent,

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Speaker 4: and we haven't seen growth outside of the magate Magnificent

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Speaker 4: seven Grade eight for a while, there's no rotation or

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Speaker 4: change in earnings growth leadership, and I don't think we

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Speaker 4: should have a change in performance leadership either. Actually, the

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Speaker 4: earnings growth is still really mostly tech and communications and

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Speaker 4: still the same leading very big companies out of financials,

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Speaker 4: certain ones that are healthcare. Really it's been mixed elsewhere,

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Speaker 4: and it's been still weak at consumer goods, and it's

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Speaker 4: getting weaker at consumer services now. So I have to

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Speaker 4: say we have not seen a broadening of earning strength

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Speaker 4: at the SMP, not at the wrust of two thousand

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Speaker 4: and either are still sluggish.

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Speaker 5: So as we think about performance in a stock market

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Speaker 5: going forward, will it be the same old leaders the

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Speaker 5: big tech names and some of the other sectorship, Is

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Speaker 5: that still going to be what's going to lead this

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Speaker 5: market higher.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's hard to get a change in leadership

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Speaker 4: without a little bit of volatility along the way. Regime

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Speaker 4: chains changes don't tend to be entirely peaceful. But I

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Speaker 4: think the market overall has a little bit more downside

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Speaker 4: into the autumn, about five percent. I think this is

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Speaker 4: still a good time to lighten up and prepare for

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Speaker 4: some better opportunities in the autumn. But financials, healthcare, those

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Speaker 4: are things we still like. We still like utilities too.

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Speaker 4: That's doing very well. Defense stocks, But when it comes

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Speaker 4: to auto retailers, transportation, we don't see it yet.

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Speaker 2: Well, I haven't asked this question in age is up

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Speaker 2: one bent crewed eighty dollars fifty four cents.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's talking energy all my radars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been quiet there. The energy sector was not

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Speaker 4: an earnings growth contributor during the second quarter. But now

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Speaker 4: the energy sector is no longer that big of a sector,

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Speaker 4: not even that big of an earnings contributor anymore. Like,

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Speaker 4: I think energy earnings will be flatish for the rest

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Speaker 4: of the year and for possibly quite a long time. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 4: it does represent value, it does it's cheap, It represents

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Speaker 4: a geopolitical hedge that could be useful in the coming

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Speaker 4: months and years, but it's not exactly the most promising

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Speaker 4: high return industry.

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Speaker 6: So how about valuation here? I'm just looking.

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Speaker 5: You know, when we did trough that Monday morning last week,

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Speaker 5: we were down eight nine percent on S ANDP. That's

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Speaker 5: recent high. We've bounced back a little bit here. How

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Speaker 5: do you think that valuation.

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Speaker 4: Still very demanding even with the little bit of a

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Speaker 4: retreat in ten year yields and ten year tips yields,

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Speaker 4: which is welcome. It's very welcome to see tenure yields

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Speaker 4: drop during an equity sell off rather than climb and

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Speaker 4: be a cause of inequity sell off. So we're getting

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Speaker 4: that diversification across asset classes. But it also then leaves

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Speaker 4: us with, well, is this decline in yields temporary on

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Speaker 4: the idea that people are still nervous about things like

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Speaker 4: getting carry trade online or geopolitical It's hard to know,

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Speaker 4: and I'm still doubtful that the tenure yield is going

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I guess the questionnaire is what are we

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Speaker 5: doing on the fixed income space here? Do we sit

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Speaker 5: in my two year treasury at four point zero six percent,

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Speaker 5: or do I take some credit risk here?

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Speaker 6: Do someone? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So up until recently, there are really good opportunities at

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Speaker 4: the two year three year duration point. I might even

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Speaker 4: go shorter than that now to year. I still think

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Speaker 4: there are opportunities in muni markets.

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Speaker 6: Nice, that's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know it's not like but and there

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Speaker 4: you I think. I think in the muni market you

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Speaker 4: can take some credit risk and even some maturity, longer

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Speaker 4: duration risk. And for those who believe that tax rates

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Speaker 4: are going up, but you'll you'll value that part of

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Speaker 2: You have a confidence like you're not a strategy sure,

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Speaker 2: a guy that runs real money. But the answer is

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Speaker 2: people have a confidence when they say the SMP are

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Speaker 2: your twelve month target is fifty six hundred? Was that

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Speaker 2: confidence shattered last week?

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Speaker 4: There's been plenty of things to be not confident about

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Speaker 4: the past year and a few years. And thank you.

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Speaker 4: I you know, we we do run real money at

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Speaker 4: d WS, and I still think of myself as a

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Speaker 4: macro minded intrinsic investor and spend a lot of time

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Speaker 4: focused on the S and P five hundred and it's

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Speaker 4: fundamental drivers like earnings, and you know, trying to give

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Speaker 4: indications sort portfolio managers with sector industry references. But the

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Speaker 4: point is this is not a time to be confident

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Speaker 4: about anything. There's a lot of uncertainty out there from

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Speaker 4: the basics, will earnings, will we have a recession or not?

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Speaker 4: Will there be a change in earnings leadership, performance leadership

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Speaker 4: or not? And we do have an important election ahead

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Speaker 4: and still an uncertain world.

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Speaker 2: David Bianco, thank you so much, thank you, greatly appreciate.

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Speaker 2: With DWS, everybody's got to like republish. It's August, and

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Speaker 2: you're like, you're supposed to wait, well, we're going to

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Speaker 2: put out a big piece six days after Labor Day.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, we'll write it now after what.

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Speaker 6: We heard last week.

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Speaker 3: And you know, are you do you? Are you taking

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Speaker 3: an you work for a German bank? Are you taking

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Speaker 3: a month off?

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Speaker 4: A couple of weeks?

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Speaker 3: And those are Wall Street weeks. You know, I got

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Speaker 3: to call it on Monday. But we're fine.

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Speaker 2: David Bianco, thank you, thank you. Ellen Wild is definitive

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Speaker 2: her book Saudi. All I can say is read it.

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Speaker 2: Senior fellow at the Atlanta Council. Ellen, there's a decline

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Speaker 2: in commodities across the board. Obviously China slow down. How

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Speaker 2: linked is your world of oil with a general commodity malaise.

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Speaker 7: So it's definitely linked, but it's definitely not one to

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Speaker 7: one because as we've seen, oil is rising now and

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Speaker 7: I think that has a lot to do with concerns

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Speaker 7: news that we've got a whole bunch of draws in

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Speaker 7: terms of the stockpiles in the US, and so that's

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Speaker 7: a signal that consumption is doing well, that demand is

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Speaker 7: doing pretty well, although there are some hints that maybe

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Speaker 7: it's not quite as good as we think, mostly because

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Speaker 7: refineries are not running at full speed. There really isn't

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Speaker 7: an indication that they need to, and so we're just

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Speaker 7: kind of drawing more on our stock piles.

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Speaker 8: And then you've got economic data.

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Speaker 7: Recently, it seems that traders have taken the recent unemployment

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Speaker 7: data as very heartening in terms of the economy, though

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Speaker 7: personally I would caution against reading too much into any

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Speaker 5: So what's really driving the show here today for global

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Speaker 5: cru to Ellen, is it demand concerns. Is it supply

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Speaker 5: what's really moving these markets here today?

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Speaker 8: That's that's a good question. I think it's both.

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Speaker 7: I think it's really concerns in the Middle East right now,

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Speaker 8: Got it's definitely got. Demand is always an issue.

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Speaker 7: Although you'd think that if OPAK is trimming it's uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, demand forecast for the rest of the year,

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Speaker 7: that that would spell problems for oil. Although it could

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Speaker 7: be that people think that because OPAK is trimming a

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Speaker 7: demand forecast, that the OPEC countries will then decide not

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Speaker 7: then help keep oil prices up.

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Speaker 8: So that's definitely a.

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Speaker 7: Possibility, and I do think that that's really a big

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Speaker 7: OPAK going to do because they are set to increase supply,

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Speaker 7: in October. But if the economic signs aren't there that

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Speaker 7: facing a lot of pressure to roll that back.

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Speaker 2: So who has power now, OPECK plus the United States

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Speaker 8: I think it's definitely the market.

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Speaker 7: In this case, I think the market is really running

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Speaker 7: the show here and Opek is just kind of tweaking

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Speaker 8: And in terms of the United States, it's.

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Speaker 7: Kind of ignoring the market in a sense. You know,

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Speaker 7: Europe is basically sanctioning all of Russian oil has definitely

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Speaker 7: And in addition, there's no impediment really other than you know,

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Speaker 8: That oil to Europe, the same way there is.

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Speaker 7: In the Middle East when you've got to use thee

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Speaker 7: You know, those are real hotspots right now, and we

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Speaker 7: don't really see that in terms of US exports.

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Speaker 5: So Ellen has Europe effectively weaned itself completely off of

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Speaker 5: Russian energy. I mean, we're a couple of years into

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Speaker 5: this war here. I know there's big, big concerns that

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Speaker 8: I guess that is a really good question.

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Speaker 7: And I think that this this independence from Russian energy

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Speaker 7: haven't seen a difficult winter. If the coming winter is

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Speaker 7: somewhat more difficult, somewhat colder than I think, we'll really

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Speaker 7: be putting that to the test. But really what's happened

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Speaker 7: is American liquefied natural gas came to the rescue and

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Speaker 7: we were able to really increase our exports of liquified

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Speaker 7: natural gas to meet that demand from Europe. And now

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Speaker 7: we even see Britain thinking about putting in an LNG

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Speaker 7: import terminal just so it doesn't have to rely on

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Speaker 7: the rest of Europe to get natural gas.

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Speaker 8: Really, natural gas is a huge.

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Speaker 7: Issue here and I don't think that we have seen

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Speaker 7: the last of this story.

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Speaker 2: So the forty seven meetings I went to forty seven

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Speaker 2: now say the LNG market is distributing and supplying and

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Speaker 2: demanding what the promises were thirty and forty years ago.

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Speaker 8: I do think so.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's happening, okay, Ellen Wild, thank you so much,

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Speaker 3: Ellen Wild, Atlantic Council There.

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited about this conversation because I can tell

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Speaker 3: Steph Guild. What was it like your first meeting with Robinhood?

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Speaker 3: For Global Wall Street.

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Speaker 2: What do you do in strategy at Robinhood that is

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Speaker 9: So when I made the switch, I my job to

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Speaker 9: So when they watch Bloomberg. They understand what the host this.

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Speaker 2: Is true value of the conversation for me to make

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Speaker 2: jokes about you and the memes tas because Lisa's Lisa's

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Speaker 3: It's how do you.

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Speaker 9: I just think it's a matter of education, meeting them

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Speaker 3: You have a weekly blog that's really good stuff. Killed

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Speaker 9: But you have to, you know, stay diversified. I always say,

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Speaker 9: They were they weren't just buying the names that are

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Speaker 6: This is really using is like a.

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Speaker 2: That's the smartest thing I've heard in the show. It's

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Speaker 2: Monday for the week. This has been great. Steph Wild,

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Speaker 9: What's the name you have some fans investors guild just

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Speaker 3: Oh I get the medieval positively medieval, very good stuff

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Speaker 3: and gil with Investor skills branding. Which social is the

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Speaker 9: Well, we have just Robinhood app on social, and then

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Speaker 3: Okay, like, are you working TikTok every day?

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Speaker 9: I'm on Instagram and X I heard you talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sitting over here. You know, Paul saved me today.

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Speaker 2: I'm over here trying to figure out how to put

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Speaker 2: out Instagram. Don't be a stranger stuff Caill, Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 3: With Robin.

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Speaker 3: Incredibly busy weekend. Lisa. I saw her slave in a way.

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Speaker 3: She had like an hour's worth of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Artificial intelligence. You know everybody's talking about it, right, So

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Speaker 5: Already got one of those crazy watches on your wrist.

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Speaker 3: I'm watching the sun set over Sweeney's house.

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Speaker 1: California over the weekend, so they revealed all those details.

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Speaker 1: Remember they said they were going to spend so much

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Speaker 1: money on their parks, so they broke it down for you.

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Speaker 6: So stay with me.

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Speaker 8: Moms and dads take notes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Walt disney World's Magic Kingdom in Florida, they're

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Speaker 1: going to get a new land devoted to villains. Frontier

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Speaker 1: Land is getting an upgrade that includes a cars themed area.

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Speaker 1: Then you have the Hollywood Studios in Florida. They're getting

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Speaker 1: land based on the Pixar's Monsters franchise.

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Speaker 6: Then over an.

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Speaker 1: Animal Kingdom, they have a new Indiana Jones ride and

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Speaker 1: they're recreating the house from that film Encanto. And then globally,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have Spider Man attractions coming to Disney

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Speaker 1: parks in Shanghai Hong Kong Paris. The company is building

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Speaker 1: a log flume ride based on the Lion King and

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Speaker 1: here's the top er. They're planning four new cruise so

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Speaker 1: it's not just yeah, the parks, but the cruise.

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Speaker 6: Each one of those babies cost a billion dollars. Scared.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, awesome though.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not a cruise person, but I went

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Speaker 5: out on an investor cruise they had for ust a

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Speaker 5: bunch of years ago.

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Speaker 6: Pretty nice.

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Speaker 3: We go to surveillance. Oh he's not there. He's on

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Speaker 3: his break. He's got a break. It's a union job.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Side Benson is is our cruise guy, and say, you know,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask him, which is the geography, like

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Speaker 2: which cruise does he like best?

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Speaker 3: But he's on it's a it's a union break.

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Speaker 8: It's a union break.

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Speaker 6: Lots of money.

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Speaker 1: But those Disney cruise I did take a tour, you're right,

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Speaker 1: and it's amazing the ships and how much stuff they

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Speaker 1: have on it. But they broke it down, you know,

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Speaker 1: they said how much And this is even you know,

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Speaker 1: they've been talking about how the park's business is starting

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Speaker 1: to slow. So it's just a little little thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: corporations that whole in and out flying on one day.

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Speaker 1: It's starting to change, Like a lot of corporations are

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Speaker 1: cutting back on that. So this is the head of

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Speaker 1: Global Business Travel Association tells the Financial Times the way

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Speaker 1: companies traveling are different. So they're declining on those one

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Speaker 1: day flight trips. Frustration with flights because they're just getting

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Speaker 1: tired of being delayed and just for in and out

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Speaker 1: in one day. Environmental concern so they're packing more meetings

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Speaker 1: into fewer trips.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, So coming to the longest one day trip

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Speaker 5: that I did on a fairly regular basis was Denver,

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Speaker 5: New York.

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Speaker 6: Did Denver I would be done on a one day? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you could.

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Speaker 5: You could get in there, get two or three meetings

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Speaker 5: and get back at it.

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Speaker 6: Not a crazy time. That's the max. Yeah, only for

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Speaker 6: Janis Would I do that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like is zoom a replacement is the heart of the man.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm in the camp on Jamie Diamonds heated about this.

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Speaker 2: He's at JP Morgan. I believe he's get on the plane,

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Speaker 2: go see her, Go see your clients, have lunch, talk

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Speaker 2: about you know which.

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Speaker 3: I'm fully on board that you know where Emi Lisa

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Speaker 3: and zoom, Yes you do? You have one for I do?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not sure if you have one of these times?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a pet trust or a pet direction?

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Speaker 3: I actually worked on this this weekend.

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Speaker 2: You did?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I got one hundred and.

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Speaker 2: Fifty pages from Keith when are you going to die?

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Speaker 2: Great Law Firm? And uh, Keith, when are you?

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Speaker 3: You know when where are you going to die? Dot com?

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Speaker 3: And back?

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Speaker 2: You know, like there's six pages in the way back

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Speaker 2: on the dog trust and it's it's there so you

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Speaker 2: trust care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's not so the pet trust where like

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Speaker 1: you know, when people are the millions of dollars, so

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Speaker 1: they're you know, to Fido. But now it's the directives,

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Speaker 1: which is basically saying who's going to care for your

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Speaker 1: pet and then they'll leave money for that care.

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Speaker 3: We called a side letter in sideline.

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Speaker 2: I said to Keith, uh, I said, do you understand

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Speaker 2: what dog walking costs in Manhattan?

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Speaker 3: And he had never seeing those numbers and you know

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Speaker 3: it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what they're saying, because you're spending money on that.

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Speaker 1: The food is ridiculous. Healthcare, you know, the dentist isn't

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Speaker 1: another one for the tea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well the dentists, isn't.

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Speaker 2: We're just featuring the dentist on our new Instagram account.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the Horseman's School of Veterinarian Medicine just

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Speaker 2: might just make the checkout tuition payments. Horse Man. But Paul,

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Speaker 2: this is serious stuff and the answer is I have

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Speaker 2: to write into the trust chewing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it writes the trust demanded. So this

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Speaker 3: is like a new thing.

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Speaker 1: So it's becoming more prevalent for people who are not rich,

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Speaker 1: just everyday people who just have pets and they want

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Speaker 1: to make sure they take care of who's taking care

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Speaker 1: of their pets.

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