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Speaker 1: Her parents are desperate for your help. Susan prim Vera

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Speaker 1: hasn't heard from her daughter Jill in over four years.

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Speaker 1: This is crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The then twenty

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Speaker 1: year old was last seen on Thursday, April twelve, two

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Speaker 1: Always called, She's never felt she couldn't call. Privera has

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Speaker 1: mean they're getting old enough now they do know, you

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Speaker 1: suspicious to us. If anybody has seen her, just reach

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Speaker 1: Imagine your daughter, m that you love more than anything

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Speaker 1: all your dreams, into all your hopes into try to

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Speaker 1: of her dreams to come true and then she goes missing.

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Speaker 1: I am talking about a beautiful young girl, Jill prima Vera,

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Speaker 1: her mom and dad. Our special guest today on Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace, and I want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us. Today's story is so important because I

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Speaker 1: really believe there is a chance we can find the

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Speaker 1: truth about the disappearance of Jill prima Vera. Along with

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Speaker 1: me the Duke, Alan Duke of course joining me, Alan,

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Speaker 1: How long has Jill Primavera been missing? Give me her description.

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Speaker 1: She has three children waiting for mommy to come home.

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Speaker 1: Joe was twenty eight years old when she was last seen.

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Speaker 1: She was last seen reported on April twelve, two thousand

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Speaker 1: East Allegheny Avenue. Well wait a minute, that's very very

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Speaker 1: specific as too, so there is a witness they can

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Speaker 1: description out the mother of three daughters. She is a

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Speaker 1: time of her disappearance. She had blonde hair with red highlights.

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Speaker 1: So what are their ages now? They are five eight

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Speaker 1: of the twins who are nine and boy do they

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Speaker 1: need mommy? Bob? Do you guys tell the children about

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Speaker 1: we're still looking. We won't give up. Where do they

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Speaker 1: So when the ten year old at night asked questions

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Speaker 1: So you two have a huge burden on you, huge

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Speaker 1: of Jill pre Bavera. Last seed in Philadelphia. The tip

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Speaker 1: Jill prima Vera, Please help us help Bob Ensue bring

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Speaker 1: you find peace. Our prayers now with Bob and Sue

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Speaker 1: Grace Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend