1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to the latest edition of 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: the Falcons in Focus podcast presented by Ticketmaster, recorded in 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: the Ticketmaster studios. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm Scott Barr. 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: That's Tory mcallaney, as you know, man of the hour 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons left guard Matthew berger On, who hails from Victoriaville, Quebec, Canada. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: A rarity. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: There are not a lot of American sports figures that 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: come from that area. And we're going to break down 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: the entire journey and kind of what it's meant to 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: you to get here. There's so many great topics. But 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: before we get there, we are interrupting Falcons in Focus. 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: For a French one on one with Tory mcallaney. 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we sort of figured lots of people are 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: are are down at NBS and they're and they're cheering 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: you on. Right, what's a way to get Matthew to 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: hear what they're saying? Yeah, then to say it in 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: his native language. 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: Well, something that comes up I hear you know, artists 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: when they're on stage, it's like you always notice the 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: people who aren't moving, aren't dancing, or just sitting there. 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: So we're kind of like trying I'm trying to help people. 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: If they're trying to get like get a hold of 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: you on the field, this is what they should do. 25 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 3: I also am from Chickamauga, Georgia. 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: Our listeners know this. 27 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: So the French language fascinates me. I'm I don't think 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm ever going to be able to pronounce things correctly. 29 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: I know this about myself, but I wanted to. I 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: have a few phrases that I want us to be 31 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: able to learn together. So the first one is simple. 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: It's just welcome to Atlanta. How do you say that? 33 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: So welcome avenue? 34 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Avenue two Avenue in Atlanta, Atlanta. Yeah, if you 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 5: want to be real fancy Atlanta. 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, that was that was a 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: good one. How do you just say like falcons in French? 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 5: In French, well we we we say falcons because that 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 5: does the name of the team, but like like a 40 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 5: real falcon, you will say falcon. No, okay, no, it's 41 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 5: not no hold on you mixed up. 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 4: That's the thing is like by. 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: I forgot, I will cut that point. 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: Okay, dirty birds, it's time to rise up? 45 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 5: All right, Well we'll say dirty birds, right, okay, time 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 5: time rise up? 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: See exactly, So everybody take notes and then if you're 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: sitting on the home sideline, then it's time to say 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: those things. 50 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so give me rise up again. Let's rise 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: up to Levy to Levy. Okay, that's great. 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 5: I love this. 53 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: This is so fun. 54 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: So we so we've we've got our basics on. 55 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: If you're a Matthew Berson fan, of which I have 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: seen number sixty five multiple times at multiple home games, 57 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: you have a little crew. 58 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think I think, to be honest, like, 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: since we don't have a lot of like NFL players, 60 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 5: you know, from Quebec, I think like people's people were like, 61 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 5: all right, we're not going to cheer for a team, 62 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 5: We're gonna cheer for somebody from home. Sure. So yeah, 63 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 5: that's that's pretty cool. And I think New York I 64 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 5: think always gonna be the game where a lot of 65 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 5: people go. Now, I know, I got a lot of family, 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: family and friends that are coming down, So I think 67 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: it's gonna be a lot of Matthew birds run Jersey 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 5: in this thing. 69 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: And you're a long ways from home. But what does 70 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: that support mean to you? 71 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: Whether you see it at the home stands, I'm sure 72 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: you hear it a lot from you on on on 73 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: social media. 74 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: What does that mean to you to kind of represent that? 75 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 5: Well, I think it means a lot, you know. It 76 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 5: means like all the hard work that I put in. 77 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 5: I think like people saw that and kind of got 78 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 5: like attached to it and like, all right, this guy 79 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: is representing not only Quebec, but Canada as a whole, 80 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 5: and just having that type of support, you know, when 81 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 5: whenever I have a bad play or bad day, I 82 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 5: just got to remember that, like I got a whole 83 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 5: country and the whole you know, province behind me. So I, 84 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 5: you know, grateful to be in this position. Not a 85 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 5: lot of people can do that because like there's a 86 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: lot of football players from Georgia, like you know what 87 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, so not a lot of people have 88 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 5: that type of support that have, So I'm definitely grateful 89 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: for it. 90 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: I love that. 91 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 5: Now. 92 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to go back in time a little bit 93 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: because obviously I feel like hockey is the main sport 94 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: of not just Canada but probably Quebec if I'm assuming correctly. 95 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: For you, when was the first time that you really 96 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: wanted to like start playing, Like what was your introduction 97 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: to football. 98 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 5: It was kind of random. Like in my hometown, Victoriaville. 99 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 5: I don't know if they still do it, but back 100 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 5: in the day used to get like a like a 101 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 5: sheet through the mail like all the you know, the 102 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 5: sports provided throughout the summer. And my mom was like, 103 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 5: you want to do a sport, blah blah blah. I 104 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 5: think you should should get moving. I was a little chubby, 105 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 5: kind of lazy. She's like, man, you should try something, 106 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 5: you know, yeah, right, and you know, obviously football is 107 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: a sport that you know, anybody from any shapes and 108 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 5: sizes can find can find a place in football. So 109 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 5: she she signed me up. And at first I hated it, 110 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 5: like I never played another position in the office in 111 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 5: lineman my whole life, all right, So like at first, 112 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 5: when you played office in line, like this is boring, 113 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 5: like you always get yelled at, like it's always your fault. 114 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: You're sweat, you get hit and all your friends and 115 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: you know they making touchdowns, they make it tackle but 116 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 5: they make up. But like with Tom, I just got to, 117 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 5: you know, love the position. And you know, obviously in 118 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 5: the locker room you can says that people will have 119 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 5: a lot of respect for you know, the office and line. 120 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 5: I think that's what beautiful thing about it, just just 121 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 5: working in shadows and you know, having to respect your teammates. 122 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 123 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: I love that you bring that up because I was 124 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: doing research for this podcast and there was a quote 125 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: that you had where you called playing offensive line like 126 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: that it's a beautiful position, And I thought that was 127 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: so cool because you're exactly right, like this is not 128 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: a position that this is one of those things that 129 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: it's like the mundane goes so far in this position 130 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: and it's not flashy, and you're like what you say, 131 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: you're not getting your name called. But like, why for 132 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 3: you was it like this position that you've played your 133 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: entire life. Why is it to you that it's like 134 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: a beautiful position of the game. 135 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 5: I feel like, just like I said earlier, just just 136 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 5: working in the shadows and like people people in the 137 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: locker room knowing they're like all right, like without you guys, 138 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 5: like nothing that just happened. And also I love kind 139 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 5: of the grimy aspect of the office in line, the physicality, 140 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 5: like you know, and posting your will on somebody and 141 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 5: just and just you know, putting somebody down like that. 142 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 5: That was really you know, what kind of got me 143 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 5: into it. Once I fell in love with you know, 144 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: office in line. I was just like, man, I love this. 145 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 5: I love putting people on the ground. I love being physical. 146 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 5: So uh yeah, that's what made me fall in love 147 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 5: with it. 148 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: Did you ever want to play another position? Like, was 149 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: there ever a point in time You're like, coach, come on, 150 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: just like put me in as like a tight end 151 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 3: or something. 152 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 6: Man. 153 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 5: So we had to play in the Syracuse. It never 154 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 5: got called. I was supposed to catch the ball. Yeah, 155 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 5: I never got called to know that it's there. It's there, 156 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: It was there, It was there on the game plan. 157 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: So during the week we called it like on Tuesday, 158 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: and I dropped it. 159 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 4: I can't put it in. 160 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know. 161 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 5: Coach Barber's is like, yeah, I think it's gonna happen. 162 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 5: And then we called it back on Thursday and I 163 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 5: caught it, and I don't know it was in the 164 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 5: game plan, never got called. But I feel like if 165 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 5: I've been a little bit you know, skinnier, faster, but 166 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 5: obviously a lot faster, I think I've been a receiver. 167 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 5: I would, you know, love to be receiver. Yeah. 168 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: So when when when you're just playing this game and 169 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: you're realizing that you have a passion for it. At 170 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: what point do you start dreaming about, Oh, where can 171 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: this take me or what can I do? Like like 172 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: where does that enter your head? 173 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: And when did that start happening? 174 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 5: See for us for like for us back home, Like 175 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 5: to be honest, like until my second year or third 176 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 5: year Eyracuse, I didn't think like playing and felt football 177 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 5: was possible for me just based off my background. Like 178 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 5: you know, I only had one, you know offer out 179 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: of high school, out of Canada, I only had one 180 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 5: offer and it was Syracuse and I kind of got 181 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: there and people like really weren't sure like what it was. 182 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 5: I was kind of like a project or whatever you 183 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 5: called it. Like I showed up at a camp that like, 184 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 5: oh this kid tall, big, you can move, all right, 185 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 5: we'll offer. So I showed up in Syracuse not really 186 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 5: knowing what, you know, what was my future because like 187 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 5: growing up, there weren't a lot of people from my 188 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: hometown making it through college football and you know, baking 189 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: it through the NFL. So for me, I was just like, right, 190 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 5: I'm gonna enjoy this. And then you know, seeing my 191 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 5: teammates a Syracuse Andre Cisco, uh Mela far news. Those 192 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: guys making it to legal. I was all right, if 193 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 5: those guys you know made it, I could make something 194 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 5: with it. And uh, you know, thout the years, my 195 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 5: confidence got higher, and now I'm here, So I love that. 196 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: And now for you, I actually was reading something and 197 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: something along the lines of like that your mom around 198 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: the time that you were like fourteen years old, that 199 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: you and your mom would go. 200 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: To Now this is where the pronunciation is not going 201 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: to happen. 202 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: Let's do it. 203 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: Games. 204 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 5: It's a you don't pronounce the tea makes a A. 205 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 4: Okay. 206 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 5: So that was my dream school, Like okay, that's tell 207 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 5: us more about what that is. Yeah, so that was 208 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 5: my dream school. So basically that's college football in Canada. 209 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 5: So it's not as big, you know obviously on this 210 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 5: side of the board that we don't know about it 211 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 5: because it's there's not a lot of media kind of 212 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: into it. But that was that was college football back home, 213 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: and that's where I dreamed of, you know, growing up 214 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 5: playing football. So I thought my future was there. And 215 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 5: when I got the offers Syracuse, obviously you know, free 216 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: tuition and all that playing into it because there's not 217 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 5: scholarships for college football back home. So you know a 218 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: lot of my friends have to work, go to school, 219 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 5: play football. So it's it's it's a hard grind. I 220 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 5: respected a lot, and you know, I'm blessed to have 221 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 5: the opportunity to be here. You know, went to Syracuse 222 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 5: and be here. 223 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about Syracuse because my favorite thing is 224 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 3: that when you were talking about that camp that that 225 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: you went to, I believe summer of twenty eighteen. 226 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: If that's yeah, research tryild. 227 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: But for for that trip, something that I think I 228 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: remember reading that you said somewhere was you called it 229 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: like a road trip just to see American football. 230 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, it was like a 231 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 5: six hour trip, right, Yeah, So we took the bus, 232 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 5: We hopped on a bus, drove i think with like 233 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 5: six seven hours. A bunch of guys were just happy 234 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: to go down in the United States, you know, get 235 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 5: to learn American football and also compete and you know, 236 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 5: test our skills and you know obviously learn from coaches 237 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 5: from you know, college football, which we don't have back home. 238 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: So it was it was a learning trip for us. 239 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 5: So for me, I just took it all right. I'm 240 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: down here road trip, my boys on the bus, having fun. 241 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 5: We get to sleep at the hotel Free Trade. It 242 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 5: was cool. So I get I get to the camp 243 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 5: and I'm like, hold, all right, I can't hank with 244 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: those guys, like they're not you know what I'm saying. 245 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 5: So so my confidence got, you know, I grew and 246 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 5: then I just started bodying people. And after practice, Coach 247 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 5: Babies was impressed and he offered me, and then you 248 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 5: know that that was it. That's all she wrote. 249 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: You know that doesn't happen very often. Yeah, a camp 250 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: and they're like, here's a scholarship. I mean, give us 251 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: the story, but but behind that, I don't. I'm sure 252 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: that was the farthest thing from your mind. 253 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. And the crazy thing is like I didn't know 254 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 5: what a scholarship meant, Like wow, I didn't know what 255 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 5: it included. You know, you hear scholarship all the time, 256 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 5: but you don't know like the details of it. Like 257 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 5: so when when Coach Berbers told me, I was like, what, 258 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 5: school's free, Like you're gonna take care of me? Like 259 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, I sai, all right, I'll be here. 260 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 5: He's all right. You just enrolled, you know, next year, 261 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 5: I said, A right, perfect, So went back to high 262 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 5: school for UH for the year and then rose Syracuse 263 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 5: twenty nineteen. That was my freshman year. So that's kind 264 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 5: of how it happened. Like it just kind of happened, 265 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I was learning through the 266 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 5: process because you know, nobody around me had to experience that, 267 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 5: you know, going through college football. So I just went 268 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 5: in there blind, Like you know what I'm saying, What. 269 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: Was your mom's reaction to everything that happened there? 270 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: Because your mom is such a huge part of your 271 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: life and then all of a sudden you're talking about playing. 272 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 4: You know, American football and then now you're. 273 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: On scholarship going to Syracuse, Like what was her reaction? 274 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: What was your family's reaction to such huge news? 275 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 5: Right? Right? I mean they were extremely proud, but I 276 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 5: think like tho key like that didn't really know what 277 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 5: was going on. Yeah, like didn't really know what's going on. 278 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 5: But they's supporting me the whole way. And obviously there 279 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 5: was kind of steps to it, Like I had to 280 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 5: get do a certain class in Quebec to you know, 281 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 5: be able to go to school here in America. So 282 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 5: I had there were some you know, steps that I 283 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 5: had to go through just to be able to come 284 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 5: down and go to school here, and she's supported me 285 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 5: thought the whole way, and like I said, like thought 286 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 5: that whole year. We was just learning as days went 287 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 5: on and figured it out. And you know, now you know, 288 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 5: I'm in a position where you know, kids from Quebec 289 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 5: like they can hit me up and I can help them. 290 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: You know, you know, go through that process because I've 291 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 5: been through it. Now there's a lot more Quebec players 292 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 5: in college football now, so it's great to see. For you. 293 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: You talk about going to Syracuse and kind of just 294 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: like figuring it out as you go along. A part 295 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: of that too, I believe from conversations that we've had before, 296 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: was obviously French is your first language, and you had 297 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: taken classes to learn English like growing up and everything. 298 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: But really and truly like this was more the first 299 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: time when you get to Syracuse and you get to 300 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: college that year around people who are speaking English twenty 301 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: four to seven. 302 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: What was kind of that experience like for you? 303 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 5: That was funny, Like I wish we could have some 304 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: of my teammates for my freshman year here with me, 305 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 5: Like in tweenying nineteen, Like I couldn't have had a 306 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 5: conversation that we're having right now. 307 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: Like that's wild because you're so you're so well. 308 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just like I had the basics, Like 309 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: you know, you guys learned Spanish right Like if I 310 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 5: would saying you like to Mexico right now to go 311 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 5: to school, to go to college, like it'd be kind 312 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 5: of a shock. That's that's what it was for me. 313 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: I just kind of learned, like I have philosophy classes 314 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 5: that like I was just in there, like what is 315 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: going on? Like teachers speaking fast? I got to take note, 316 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 5: and like I just figured it out. As the days 317 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 5: went on and my English got better, and you know, 318 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 5: COVID happened and I had to stay in the US 319 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 5: for a whole year because the borders were closed, and 320 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 5: I feel like that's really when my English kind of 321 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 5: got better because I was around English speakers all the time. 322 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 5: And my girlfriend she's an English speaker as well. She 323 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 5: I mean, she's American, so kind of having her with me, 324 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 5: I mean, English got better. So yeah, and you know 325 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 5: it's funny because like I used to ask my teammates, say, 326 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 5: what does that word mean? Like what do you say? 327 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 5: Like repeat that like and they used to make fun 328 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 5: of me and all that, but they were great. You know, 329 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 5: they helped me a lot, and it's just you know, 330 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 5: part of my story and I'm just blessed going through 331 00:13:59,320 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 5: what I'm going through. 332 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 6: I'm saying, there's no accent, no yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 333 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 6: I lost it and something do like you got to 334 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 6: care too, you know what I'm saying, Like I learned English, 335 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 6: but I was I care about how you know, pronounced 336 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 6: word and how I have conversation with people and like 337 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 6: you know, the verb past sense and you know, I 338 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 6: care about that stuff. 339 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: So it was it was important for me to learn 340 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 5: because I think it's iportant for me to you know, 341 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 5: express myself, be able to express myself and you know, 342 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: have conversation with people because I'm a social person. 343 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, I love that too. And I think another 344 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: part of this too is like learning the football language. 345 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: Like you're you're trying, you're actively like trying to get 346 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: better at English and conversing in social settings, but you're 347 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: also all the while learning the language of football and 348 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: understanding like what certain play calls are and everything. What 349 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: was that process, Like, did you have to because the 350 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: reason I asked this is because young Waiku has been 351 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: on this podcast and he talked about how football was 352 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: actually a way that helped him one make friends and 353 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: make connections, but also kind of learning English because he 354 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: would like ask another player like, hey, what did they say? 355 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: And what does this mean? And was able to like 356 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: within the playbook understand it. Did you have something similar? 357 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 5: No doubt, Like I feel like my teammates are the 358 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 5: the reason why, like my English is so good now 359 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 5: because I used to go, you know, go to them, 360 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 5: ask them question. I feel like without them, I wouldn't 361 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 5: be able to, you know, pronounce some word. And obviously, 362 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 5: like when you don't have to speak the language, like 363 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: you you're kind of a little shy and have it 364 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: a football Having your teammate was kind of, you know, 365 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 5: ease the transition. Obviously the football that was that was tough, 366 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 5: like learning different terms because you know, obviously back home 367 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 5: it was in French. Yeah, so I kind of had 368 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 5: a transition that too. But I think that the veterans 369 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 5: that year that took care of me, and obviously they 370 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 5: saw how I cared and how I really wanted to 371 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 5: figure it out. They kind of took me under their wing. Yeah. 372 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: And as you're going through your college experience, right then 373 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: you get to a point where I think it was 374 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: week seven, I believe you're getting readied as a freshman 375 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: to play Florida State. 376 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. So that was that year. So everything happened. 377 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: Everything happened. 378 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was my true freshman year. So I 379 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 5: was the second tackle. I was like the six man 380 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 5: up right, and the right tackle at the time just 381 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 5: quit the team. I don't know what happened, he just quit. 382 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: So I could I go to practice expecting, like, you know, 383 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 5: just playing my role, you know what I mean. So 384 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 5: I get bumped up with like first team and like 385 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 5: with two practices in the week, ready to go play 386 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 5: Florida State. They're like yeah in. 387 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 6: Florida States, like yeah, you gotta go, you know what 388 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 6: I'm saying. 389 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: So the old reliable how to figure it out, you 390 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: know what I mean, get thrown in the fire, you know, 391 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: you get thrown the pool, you got you gonna figure 392 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: out how to swim. So you know what I'm saying 393 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: that that's what happened, and uh, you know, I'm grateful 394 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: for it, and I think, like the biggest thing for 395 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 5: me then was just you just got to survived. You 396 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: can't mess up. So that that was my mentality when 397 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: I first got thrown in there. And then you know, 398 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 5: as the years went on, I got more and more 399 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: confidence and the football side kind of slowed down, so 400 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: I was able to see things better and you know, 401 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 5: be more comfort to boil the position. 402 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: What do you remember about that day and kind of 403 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 3: leading up to that first start? You know at Florida State. 404 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: That's I mean a lot of people know how how 405 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: big of a deal that is, especially for that to 406 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: be your first start away, and really and truly, I 407 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 3: feel like it's almost like the quintessential like American football moment. 408 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: Everybody knows Florida State. Yeah, So what about that day 409 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 3: do you really like recalling? 410 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 5: I remember like everything, So the night before I can eat, 411 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 5: I went to the bathroom b like five times. So 412 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 5: we get to the stadium and then you know how 413 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 5: Florida State they do the little yeah yeah yeah. And 414 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 5: then so we're in the locker room, a lot of 415 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 5: here is like a pound like and I'm like, oh lord, 416 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 5: it's rocking. So so we get out of the tunnel 417 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 5: and it was just spectacular, like the whole thing, the 418 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: whole crowd. It would sell out, and like, I don't 419 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 5: remember anything from the first drive, Like I was just 420 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 5: trying to hold on for dear life. And I feel 421 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 5: like I did kind of good job. You know. As 422 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 5: the game went on, I got one more comfortable and uh, 423 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 5: they had a pretty good you know, Floridas, they always 424 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 5: had some pretty good defensive line. So it was a 425 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 5: good learning experience. 426 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: That's just to enter, like, and and then you you 427 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: just kind of took over right from that point, you 428 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: felt like you were in the flow of that. It's 429 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: so interesting you hear about all these things where you think, oh, 430 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not really in the realm of 431 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: possibility for me to play American football, and then you 432 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: get a scholarship and then. 433 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: It's not, you know, and then you just kind of 434 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: keep moving yourself time and time again, which I just 435 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: think is so fascinating. 436 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: How does your kind of confidence level move throughout all 437 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: these processes. Is this something where even back to the camp, 438 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, like I can play with these dudes, 439 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: where is your confidence at through these moments slowly getting 440 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. 441 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 5: I think it was just keep getting bigger and bigger. 442 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 5: Like once you do it, once you prove yourself to 443 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: do it, that's when like it clicks for me. Once 444 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 5: I prove myself that I can do, like, all right, 445 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 5: now I can hang with these dudes. I can and 446 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 5: that's when my call, let's get bigger and bigger. And 447 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 5: you know, Florida State was a great learning experience, and 448 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 5: I feel like one of my biggest accomplishment that you know, 449 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 5: hold on is like I held on to that spot, 450 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 5: you know what I'm yeah, right, I started, you know, 451 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 5: I went in there week seven started, and I didn't 452 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: get taken off, like you know what I'm saying. I 453 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 5: held on that spar for forty nine straight games after that, 454 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 5: and so that that I think, like personally, that like, 455 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 5: that's my biggest accomplishment. 456 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: You brought up the pandemic in COVID nineteen and not 457 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: being able to go back home. 458 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 4: For essentially a year for you. What was that year 459 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: like for you? 460 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: Because I imagine you weren't able to see your family 461 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: either because they're back in Quebec. 462 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. So so Syracuse is like five hours from my 463 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 5: house in Quebec. So my family was there every home 464 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 5: game in twenty nineteen and then twenty twenty borders shut 465 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 5: down like you had to if you went back home, 466 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 5: you had a quarantine for two weeks, like the rules 467 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 5: were right. It was great, pretty intense in Canada. So 468 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 5: so coach didn't want me to take no chances, you know, 469 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 5: be getting stuck over there. So I just stayed, uh, 470 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: went through the season. We went one and ten, So 471 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 5: that was that was a tough year. And I couldn't 472 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: see my family like that. That was that was a 473 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: long year. But you know, I'm blessed to have you know, 474 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: to have technology and be able to FaceTime, and my 475 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 5: teammates played a great part in that, just keeping me 476 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 5: up there. That kind of became my family. And that's 477 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 5: how I became so close with those guys. 478 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: And you're you have three siblings and your mom right 479 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: and this and we're talking. 480 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 5: Tight yeah yeah, yeah, pretty tight. Yeah yeah. 481 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: How much you know, like have your siblings We already 482 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: talked about your your your mother to a certain extent, 483 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: but having that kind of core group to always be 484 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: behind you and you supporting them, Like how important has 485 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: that been to everything? That that that that you've done, 486 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: that you have that foundation, you have that bad job 487 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: there for you. 488 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: I mean, it's the most important thing. Like playing football, 489 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 5: You're gonna have your ups and downs, your hugs and lows, 490 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 5: but the only opinion that matters is their opinions. Like 491 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 5: there they four group of people right there, or my family, 492 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 5: Like that's the only thing that matters to me. So 493 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 5: whatever is going on, if I have a good game, 494 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 5: room back game, like I kind of keep it like 495 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 5: you know, like a flat line, and I don't get 496 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 5: too high, too low, whatever happens, Like, I know my 497 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: family's going to be there for me. And just having 498 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 5: that support was incredible, and I know I'm blessed now 499 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 5: that people have that and we move as one, like 500 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 5: they come in as many games they can. Right now, 501 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 5: my little brother started playing football. He's the left guard, 502 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 5: so I'm trying to teach him a little bit and 503 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 5: it's just great, mom. I love that. 504 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: Now, top, before we really wrap up, I want to 505 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: go back to the night that you were drafted, And 506 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: that's one of my favorite videos and phone calls is 507 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: hearing you know, you talking to Terry font know about 508 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: the opportunity and everything. But as I was going back 509 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: and doing research, there was a quote that you had 510 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: when you committed to Syracuse, and you said committing to 511 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: Syracuse was exciting not only for me and my family, 512 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: but also my province in Canada. As you're kind of 513 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: talking about, you know, your your siblings back home and 514 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: other people back home and Quebec or just any part 515 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: of Canada. I mean, how much in that moment of 516 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: being drafted are you sitting there even like consciously thinking. 517 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 4: Wow, this is pretty dang cool that someone from. 518 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: Victoriaville, Quebec, Canada is sitting here on the phone with 519 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons about to go play in the NFL. 520 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that that meant everything. And just being 521 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 5: able to be back home for that event, like that 522 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 5: was the biggest thing. To be able to be in 523 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: Victoriaville where it all started from, with my family and 524 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 5: friends and a lot of you know, a lot of 525 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 5: guys have different ways to do it, and for me, 526 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 5: like I wanted the media from back home to be 527 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: there so like kids can see that, you know, it's possible, 528 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying that like if you put 529 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: the work in, like don't believe that, Oh, if you're 530 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 5: not from the US, you can't make it happening, Like 531 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 5: that that was the biggest thing for me, and you know, 532 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 5: I'm grateful to be in this position, and you know, 533 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 5: I just I just want to be a good example 534 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 5: for those kids and keep putting on for Quebec. 535 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you kind of you know, blaze that trail 536 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: so people can understand, all right, like here, like here's 537 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: the way that you can do it if you're you know, 538 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: put in work. And this is something that Tory mentioned 539 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: during our conversations and maybe I'll let you kind of 540 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: take it from here, just in what Tombo said and 541 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: what Oh yeah, I think it's an important term. 542 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 543 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: So when you were drafted, I do this thing where 544 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: I have conversations with some of the scouts and about like, 545 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: you know, why you draft these guys, why you care 546 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: about this one guy? 547 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: And what really stood out? 548 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: And I was having conversations with Coach led as well, 549 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 3: and every conversation that I had with scouts, they're like, 550 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 3: this is a guy who is self made. He is 551 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: everything that he has gotten, he has earned. And I 552 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: think like just seeing that through your story step and 553 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: step in step, it's like, Okay, this is a guy 554 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 3: who just decided like let's go play football. That seems interesting, 555 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: and then you go and just happen to go to 556 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: this camp at Syracuse and it's like here's a scholarship, 557 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 3: and then you're a starter, and then you don't let 558 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: that go, and then it's like you're in the NFL draft, 559 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 3: a guy who didn't have had one offer from Syracuse 560 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 3: coming out of high school in Canada. Do you almost 561 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 3: feel a sense of that like self madeens? 562 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel like I carried that self made 563 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 5: mindset like with me, Like being drafted was great, but 564 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 5: like the way I see it, it's not the end 565 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 5: of the road, Like they're so much more than I 566 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 5: want to accomplish, you know, not only for myself, but 567 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 5: for the football back home and obviously for the city 568 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: Atlanta because they gave me the opportunity at this level. 569 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 5: But like I keep that mindset, like I'm not satisfied 570 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: just being drafted and playing in the NFL. Like I 571 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 5: want to want to be great at what I do, 572 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 5: so I put my head down at work and just 573 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 5: keep that same mindset. They're gonna be high as lows. 574 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: You just gotta keep pushing. 575 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: I love this story, you know, and I think self 576 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: made is it's just such a. It's a perfect term 577 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: for it, and when you keep hearing it over and 578 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: over and over, it totally kind of makes sense. Now 579 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: we're on to the rapid fire portion of our podcast. 580 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Everybody gets the same five questions. There are no right or. 581 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: Wrong answers, but we will judge the answer. 582 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: Oh be ready, Okay, your favorite play of your career, 583 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: high school, college, youth, It doesn't matter your favorite play. 584 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 5: It was a screen of Virginia Tech and I just 585 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 5: drove this guy down the field and just dumped him 586 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 5: and we and we ended up winning that game on 587 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: last play the game. So Virginia said, love that. 588 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: I love how how quickly and decisively that it comes 589 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: to the mind. 590 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: That's how you know it was a good play, all right. 591 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: Who was your favorite player growing up? 592 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 5: So he was a Quebec player, Lauren demanetard If So, 593 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 5: he was an office in Lineman. He was a guard 594 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 5: and he was a doctor. So and he was from Quebec. 595 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 5: So I was. I got his jersey back home still 596 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 5: and he was the person that you know, looked up to. 597 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 4: Have you ever gotten a chance to We talked. 598 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: You know, over social media and everything, but with the 599 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 5: whole process, the drafts has been a lot crazy, and 600 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: you know, hopefully an off season we get a chance 601 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 5: to meet that. 602 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, things slowed down after your rookie. 603 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a long year, but yeah, he's such an 604 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: inspiring story too. Helped so many people and been a 605 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: darn good football player as well. Yeah, for a long time, 606 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: a movie or TV show that you're binging or that 607 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: you recommend. 608 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 5: Like like in a month, and I'm like, damn, Like 609 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 5: right now, I'm kind of lost. I'm kind of I 610 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: don't know what to watch because I wanted to match 611 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 5: like the level level. Yeah, how good it was. I'm like, damn, 612 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: I might just be watching because it kind of reminds 613 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 5: me of my group of friends. 614 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: So I love That's perfect. 615 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 5: I love it. 616 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 3: Okay, when you were younger, like before football was ever 617 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: in the realm of possibilities, what did you want to 618 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 3: be when you grew up? 619 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 5: Man, that's a good question. I don't know, to be honest, 620 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 5: I really don't know. 621 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 4: I think it was like football was that like when once. 622 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 5: You what's figured it out? Football? Was it? Right? Yeah? Yeah, 623 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 5: you're like yeah, at first was like NFL. I didn't 624 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 5: think it was possible. So for me, it was CFL, 625 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 5: Like I got to make it the CFL. You know 626 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So yeah, I say football cool, love it. 627 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: What is your favorite food from back home? 628 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 5: Poutine? 629 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 4: Putin? 630 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: That was a quick one. 631 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 5: It poutine, French fries, cheese, gravy, and then you can't 632 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 5: add whatever. 633 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. 634 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: No, I think that's a great great I mean, I 635 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 3: don't know what else there is besides poutine, but like. 636 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 5: That that makes sense, no doubt. And I had So 637 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 5: I've been in America for like what since twenty nineteen, 638 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 5: and I've had the best poutine in America like two 639 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 5: days ago here. Yeah. So it's about this person, right, 640 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 5: It's company is the food. 641 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 6: I like. 642 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 5: So he kind of just catering stuff. He comes to 643 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 5: your house expression stuff. So I have my family over 644 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 5: and he came and I was like and he was like, yeah, 645 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 5: you're from Quebec, Like you want me to try some poutine? 646 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 5: At first, like a man, if you're not going to 647 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 5: eat it, got it gotta be good. Yeah. I was 648 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 5: a little skeptical, but like when it came out, he 649 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 5: got the Chiefs from Wisconsin, so it was that it 650 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 5: was great. So yeah, shout out. 651 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 4: Honestly, he should come to the facility and he. 652 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 5: Definitely should, definitely should. So he did an on line 653 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 5: that's how I men did dinner and ot as and 654 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 5: this is good food. 655 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: What a note to end on about the Yeah great, 656 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: all right, Matthew berger On, thank you so much for 657 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: joining us on the Falcons in Focused podcast. 658 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: I love hearing these stories. 659 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: Right, it's just I mean, it's inspiring even as you're 660 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: doing the research for it. 661 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 2: This was another great one. Uh. 662 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: So happy to have you on the program, and so 663 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: happy for the entire Falcons fan base to really be 664 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: able to hear you know about this guy that they watch. 665 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: Every single Sunday. 666 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: So everybody do what you do, rate, review, and subscribe 667 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Falcons podcast network and subscribe to our 668 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: YouTube YouTube page. Why don't you if I can say 669 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: that right, And next week we will be back with 670 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: you with another great asked See you