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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Sunday morning. Here Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday Mike Carmen alongside ten year NBA veteran my

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Speaker 1: Lots of things to be decided today.

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Speaker 2: We've got a PGA Championship, We've got the English Premier

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Speaker 2: League with a couple of teams battling up top. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you get to watch Early Holland run around. We've got

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Speaker 2: two count up, two game seven's, and if not for

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Speaker 2: a late foul call, maybe you wouldn't have had a third.

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Speaker 2: But that goes the other way. We'll get into all

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Speaker 2: of it as we traverse the morning universe this morning.

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Speaker 2: Can't do it alone. I got Ryan Hollins, as he said,

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Speaker 2: ten years in the league. Find them on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: the Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Ryan? What's going on? Brother? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I heard you up late night speaking excellence into microphones

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Speaker 2: and the airwaves nationwide and talking about a little bit

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Speaker 2: of Game six as we come down to it, just

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Speaker 2: crazy time in the NBA and a play that will

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Speaker 2: resonate for quite a while of what it could have,

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Speaker 2: should as and might have been. Don't blow seventeen point

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Speaker 2: leads is really what it comes down to.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, hats off to Oka See and

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Speaker 4: you like to say they blew the lead, but I

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Speaker 4: don't think you can. You know, in today's NBA, with

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Speaker 4: all the three point shooting, all this speed, you know,

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Speaker 4: the lack of size. What you're gonna get is the

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Speaker 4: inconsistent season's coin. So you can't be upset when there's

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Speaker 4: no lead. That's safe. And I think in the first

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Speaker 4: half when they hit five threes, okay see to close

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Speaker 4: the close the half, and that put them ahead in

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Speaker 4: just as easily on the road. I don't think they

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Speaker 4: just they gave anything up. I think Dallas just walked

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Speaker 4: them down. And I mean, this is one of the

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Speaker 4: better ball games I've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 2: Well it's the fun part of it, right, is that

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Speaker 2: you know, one of the lamentations of this playoff run

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Speaker 2: has been the number of let's just throw in the

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Speaker 2: towel and see you next time kind of games, right,

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Speaker 2: and this was one where you know, Dallas, they're at home,

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Speaker 2: so you don't expect a give up. But when it

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Speaker 2: gets to seventeen, looking around, going wow, okay, this one's

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Speaker 2: getting out a hand. But to your point, three point

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Speaker 2: shot can shoot you back in. So for all those

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Speaker 2: teams that did have give up games along the playoff run,

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Speaker 2: I know, we get extra TV time, but a reality

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Speaker 2: is that you can get yourself back into a game

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Speaker 2: pretty fast. But for the Thunder, you know, it's the

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Speaker 2: question of whether they've gotten there too early, right in

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Speaker 2: the build of a lot of young players and certainly

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Speaker 2: a plethora, a plethora of draft picks down the road.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I kept hearing that all the first and

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Speaker 2: second round picks total that they'll have over these next

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Speaker 2: six to seven drafts, and the curiosity of what it becomes.

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Speaker 2: But for Dallas, I mean, it's one of those that

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Speaker 2: shapes and helps reshape some of the narratives. When we

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Speaker 2: start talking about guys like Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncic,

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Speaker 2: there's been so much noise about both of their careers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kyrie, some of it brought on himself, with

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Speaker 2: Luca conditioning this that the other and can he get

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Speaker 2: them over? And well they advance to at least one

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Speaker 2: more round and stave off the having to go back

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Speaker 2: and playing a game seven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think for Dallas, you know, make no mistake,

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Speaker 4: this was a mus Wayne. You know you just noted

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma City. They're playing with house money, they're young, you

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Speaker 4: got cap space, and you're right. They are not supposed

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Speaker 4: to be this good. They're not supposed to be in

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Speaker 4: this situation. That'sat's out to Mark daganol Shay, Gilgs, Alexander

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Speaker 4: and just culture. When you create culture, you draft well.

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Speaker 4: Hats out to Sam Presti and you know you put

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Speaker 4: your guys in situations where they can win. Man, good

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Speaker 4: things are happening over there in ok See, So you

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Speaker 4: gotta be happy. You got to give nothing but respect

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's go back to the uh the play,

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Speaker 2: it ends up getting challenged, Luca driving gets kind of

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Speaker 3: Well, here it comes Luca.

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Speaker 2: He's trapped along the upside with ten now against Dort

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Speaker 3: Forces out up, put.

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Speaker 1: Down, big got down.

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Speaker 2: He got down by Jildas Alexander p two and a

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Speaker 1: You what a terrible file there.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, we're.

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Speaker 4: Going to know where the foul occurred on the three

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Speaker 4: point shot.

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Speaker 3: The challenge is.

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Speaker 1: Cloths and there you have it.

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Speaker 2: There's the call, and I mean immediately as he's going up,

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Speaker 2: it's like, all right, does he get the the arms

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Speaker 2: like clear as day? And you hear it in the

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Speaker 2: call the ball fumbled into the court. I like the

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Speaker 2: he got it to Washington. Eh, all right, we'll count

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Speaker 2: it as a pass. Doesn't have to be pretty ryan

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Speaker 2: as long as against a guy that's still in the

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Speaker 2: same color uniform. Uh, it's all fine and good, but uh,

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Speaker 2: you get the challenge on the call. You know, as

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Speaker 2: you watched it it go up. Any question in your

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Speaker 2: mind that they were going to call a file on

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Speaker 2: that and that it would be upheld?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 4: It was the right call and normally, man, it was

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Speaker 4: such a smooth game, and there there was Shay shouldn't

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Speaker 4: have got jumped off the ground. But what you got

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Speaker 4: to realize is I think, PJ, what did he get?

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Speaker 4: What are two threes before that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so starting to heat up a bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you've been quiet all game, scoreless, foul trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yet five in the game, sat a bunch and then

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Speaker 4: End exactly, So the mindset and you're starting to see

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Speaker 4: Luca was getting in the lane and kicking out. He

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Speaker 4: had made that play. So I don't think it's surprising

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Speaker 4: that he made the play. I think seeing how effective

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Speaker 4: it was, you got to have a lot of faith

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Speaker 4: in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: We've seen Luca beat you.

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Speaker 4: We've seen Kyrie obviously beat you, but it was PJ.

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Speaker 4: Washington and Derreck Jones Junior that were the heroes. And

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Speaker 4: that's the trust. And you know, that's something we've seen

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Speaker 4: from the Nuggets. We've seen Michael Porter Junior beat you.

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Speaker 4: We've seen Aaron Gordon beat you. We've seen those guys

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Speaker 4: step up in major ways. Kentavious, Kywell Pope had hit

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Speaker 4: huge shots. But now when your team starts doing that

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Speaker 4: and in game seven, you have that type of trust,

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Speaker 4: that's the scary part. So, yes, it was the right call.

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Speaker 4: You don't get off your feet on a shooter. But

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Speaker 4: it was tough because now you're saying pick your poison,

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Speaker 4: and it ended up being poisoned.

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Speaker 3: PJ.

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Speaker 4: Washington and Derek Jones Jr. Mano Scott's were on fire.

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Speaker 2: Jones finishing with twenty two, Washington, as I said, all

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Speaker 2: nine of his points coming in the fourth quarter as

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Speaker 2: they overcome the seventeen point third quarter deficit, and it

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Speaker 2: was as high for OKC as nine in the fourth.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from Shay Gilders Alexander talking about the play

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Speaker 2: the fall and while his coach, as much as he

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Speaker 2: wanted to challenge it, eh Sga kind of tells him,

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Speaker 2: I gotten me.

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Speaker 5: We talk about it all your other little things that

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Speaker 5: go into winning games and being disciplined, and it sucks. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: if I had the moment back, I went to fiut

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Speaker 5: him and just let him make her mister shot. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: the basketball, you want some of you loose, some you

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Speaker 5: made mistakes.

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Speaker 2: There, you go, well, let him make or miss it, right,

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Speaker 2: But in the moment, being competitive, trying to get to

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Speaker 2: make your defensive play because as we know, I think

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Speaker 2: Ryan the narrative this off this postseason, I should say,

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Speaker 2: has been more about guys playing defense that I think

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Speaker 2: I've heard in a long time in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Well, you've had to. And you know, here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors, they changed the

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Speaker 4: NBA the way that they played. Well, we'll probably never

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Speaker 4: play basketball again the same way. And it was for

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Speaker 4: the good. You know, the spacing in NBA basketball is there.

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Speaker 4: But the reality is now when you're going back and

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Speaker 4: you're checking these things out, the big guy is coming back.

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Speaker 4: The IQ is coming back into basketball. Because when Curry

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Speaker 4: can't keep up scrub our team.

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Speaker 3: We're going young. We're gonna kind of figure this out.

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Speaker 4: And now with Curry, you know, getting older, the Warriors

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Speaker 4: not being the Warriors, the three ball being included into

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Speaker 4: the NBA, what you're seeing is the traditional point guard

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Speaker 4: I will count Joker as a point guard because he

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Speaker 4: in some ways, he runs the offense, he gets big assists,

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Speaker 4: everything's fluid. Will count him as a point guard. That's

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Speaker 4: what today's NBA is. But even bigger size is coming back.

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Speaker 4: So you have all these teams that just don't go

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Speaker 4: young and scrap it, and they're in situations where they

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Speaker 4: got to win now. And you know, for Dallas they

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Speaker 4: have to win and we've seen that. So I think

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Speaker 4: in some weird way, I don't know if you agree

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Speaker 4: with this, Mike, it was a win for both sides.

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Speaker 4: I think Oklahoma City has nothing to be upset about.

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Speaker 4: There far far ahead of schedule. And in terms of Dallas,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was a must win for them and

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Speaker 4: they end up going on to advance. But I mean, boy,

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Speaker 4: was that close, and you saw him acknowledge that in

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Speaker 4: their postgame press or that, well this is trust me,

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Speaker 4: this was no kwalk.

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Speaker 3: You got to take your hats off to those kids

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Speaker 3: over there.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the beauty. The margins are thinner.

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Speaker 2: And I think for the NBA as a whole, you know,

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Speaker 2: to talk about the health of a league, how many

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Speaker 2: years did we just pencil in for squads and just say,

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Speaker 2: all right, the winner's coming out of that, right, two

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Speaker 2: or three teams on the Western Conference, with obviously Golden

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Speaker 2: State being at the top of the list, and then

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Speaker 2: on the other side it was Lebron James and the

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Speaker 2: Cavaliers or the Heat depending on where he was.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's it and.

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Speaker 4: Warriors Cavaliers. How many finals did you get? Warriors Cavaliers?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean it's just that thing. It's like you

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Speaker 2: were already penciling it in. It's like, all right, we'll

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Speaker 2: enjoy the regular season, but we know, come the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Here we are right.

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Speaker 2: The Heat go to four straight Eastern Conference finals, the

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Speaker 2: Warriors have the run that they did, and time and

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Speaker 2: time again we're seeing these matchups to where as a product, look,

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Speaker 2: we still love the game in individual games, even if

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Speaker 2: you think you know the presumed outcome, right when we

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Speaker 2: watch college football games knowing where the heavyweights are and

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Speaker 2: college buckets and just go on down sport by sport,

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Speaker 4: There, no absolutely, and kay is a great guy. And

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Speaker 4: There's a clipment him post game where he's he's literally saying, man,

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Speaker 4: I'm close to crying. I'm this happy, And you know

436
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 4: that love for NBA basketball is coming back.

437
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: So hats off to Kyrie.

438
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 4: Excited for him and his family, and you know, good

439
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 4: things are happening over there at the right time.

440
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Speaker 2: I think it's just a great example of finding whatever

441
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: that piece is right where you're in a bad situation,

442
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 2: bad management, where coaching rips, whatever the case may be.

443
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: To your point, it just seems like there's something else

444
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: going on with him into where he's found that groove right,

445
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: no matter the past shuffling that's going on. And look,

446
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 2: he's taken some slings and arrows and he's certainly stepped

447
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: in in a couple of times to where, you know,

448
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 2: brought some of it on himself in terms of how

449
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 2: much he's loving the game versus you know, outside interests

450
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: and where you know, those lines get drawn. But right

451
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: now just looks like a man completely He fell in

452
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Speaker 2: love with Dallas.

453
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Speaker 1: How about that?

454
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

455
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, man, things are, Things are going well, and

456
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 4: you know they support him, and I think when they

457
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 4: moved made the move for Kyrie, they were all in.

458
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 4: You know, this wasn't like a halfway deal. And and

459
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Speaker 4: you know when you see an organization stepping out and

460
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,719
Speaker 4: saying no, we like you, we support you.

461
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Speaker 3: And for Kyrie, he's so good at basketball.

462
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Speaker 4: He's just like you, Gonta, like me as a person,

463
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: and they like who Kyrie is. They're not challenging him,

464
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Speaker 4: they're not putting him in awkward situations. And you know

465
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Speaker 4: that's why he's really embraced the love that he's getting

466
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Speaker 4: over there in Dallas. So so again, man, it's just

467
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 4: more about being happy and you got to be excited

468
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Speaker 4: for those guys. And again, I play with Kyrie. I'm

469
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Speaker 4: telling you, he is an amazing guy. He is a

470
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Speaker 4: great guy. Okay, he could hang with his harmon all right.

471
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Speaker 2: All right, that sounds good, you know, mean there's always

472
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Speaker 2: room for more at the table, you and Kyrie.

473
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Speaker 1: Man, I would love to have.

474
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Speaker 2: A conversation with him. I find him interesting, find some

475
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Speaker 2: of it fascinating.

476
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Speaker 3: You know.

477
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Speaker 2: It's like any You're not gonna agree on everything, but

478
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: certainly there's there's enough there to at least get the

479
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: conversation started about all the stuff when he's talking about,

480
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: you know, fatherhood and what he's most proud of, with

481
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: Luca talking about him growing up as a man, like okay,

482
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Speaker 2: you know he went straight from basketball and they said

483
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Speaker 2: he gave the impassioned speech to the guys and everything.

484
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: I just look, we're we're on a Sunday, right, folks

485
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Speaker 2: are going to and from services. It's one of those

486
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Speaker 2: evangelization kind of things where it's like, you know, trying

487
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Speaker 2: to find the best in the world. This is the

488
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Speaker 2: day where a lot of people, maybe they're hustle and

489
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Speaker 2: bustle of the rest of their week, this is where

490
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: they find a little of it. So whenever that starts

491
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: to kind of play in where it becomes more about,

492
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: you know, finding that fit and happy that allows you

493
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Speaker 2: to just go play basketball, which is what you know,

494
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 2: he was kind of saying with Luca, the rest, you know,

495
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: the basketball will come. You got to get the other

496
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: stuff figured out as well. You know, maybe he's unlocked

497
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Speaker 2: some key to the rest of the world. So yeah,

498
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Speaker 2: let's get him at the table. We'll figure out a

499
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: place to commiserate and start a podcast there as well,

500
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins where you find and

501
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: find me over at Swollen Dome. We continue talking about

502
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: NBA because we've got a couple of Game seven's a

503
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: little bit later on, some injury news and notes that

504
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: we need to update. And there's nobody better to get

505
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: us started down that highway than our guy. I'm sure

506
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: there's something about beef and he still carried it over

507
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Speaker 2: another week.

508
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Speaker 1: It's our guy, Isaac always.

509
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Speaker 8: You know, you picked up on a certain tension that

510
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 8: is developing between me and Ryan. Oh, it's impalpable some reason.

511
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 8: It's next level right there, because the beef, the in

512
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 8: and out, the what was the name of that rinki

513
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 8: dank place that you like in Houston there, Hollands?

514
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: Oh what a burger that's right? Oh gosh, I'm such

515
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: a chirk. He got the word rinky dink game really sure?

516
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 3: Anyway?

517
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Speaker 8: Talking about Game seven's, no Game sevens for fans of

518
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 8: the Dallas Mavericks to worry about, because in Game six

519
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 8: of the Western Conference semi Finals on Saturday night, they

520
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 8: prevailed over the Oklahoma City Thunder one seventeen to one

521
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 8: sixteen to win the series four games to two in

522
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Speaker 8: advance of the Western Conference Finals for the second time

523
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Speaker 8: in three years.

524
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Speaker 3: PJ.

525
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Speaker 8: Washington the game winning free throws at two point five

526
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Speaker 8: to play Luka Dancic a twenty nine point ten rebound,

527
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Speaker 8: tennasis triple double. In Game six of the Western Conference

528
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Speaker 8: semi Finals and the Stanley Cup Playoffs on Saturday night,

529
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Speaker 8: the Edmonton Oilers defeated Vancouver five to one to force

530
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Speaker 8: a Game seven of that series. After three rounds of

531
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Speaker 8: the PGA Championship, Colin Morikawa and Xander Schoffler tied to

532
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Speaker 8: the lead at fifteen under par overall. Scottie Scheffler is

533
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Speaker 8: now eight shots off the lead at seven under par

534
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Speaker 8: overall after shooting a two over par seventy three on

535
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Speaker 8: Saturday and finally earlier Saturday Seize the Gray, which might

536
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Speaker 8: be an advice for me about my ever worsening hair situation. Anyway,

537
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 8: Seize the Gray went Wired to Wired to win the

538
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 8: Preakness State Kentucky Derby Winter. Mystic Dan finished in second place,

539
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Speaker 8: ending Mystic Dan's race for the Triple Crown meeting. The

540
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 8: only Mystic Dan of note left in sports is buyer,

541
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Speaker 8: pass the blunt back to you guys.

542
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: Now, let's stay with the hair thing for a second, right,

543
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: all right, at Isaaclow and Crow where you find him

544
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: with the updates. I got a haircut yesterday right going

545
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Speaker 2: to an event. One of my neighbors daughters had had

546
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Speaker 2: her bought mi'st us, so you know, they had the

547
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: services in the morning and then this you know, celebration

548
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: at the hall later at night, and I'm like, all right,

549
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: we had a bunch of stuff in the morning, so

550
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: we couldn't make the first part. But it's like, all right,

551
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: let's rally, and so I needed a haircut, right, it's

552
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 2: starting to doesn't grow as tall and proud as it

553
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: once did as a younger man Ryan Hollins, but you know,

554
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: starting to get mullet like because the back.

555
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: Still grows for whatever reason.

556
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 2: So it's like, all right, let's go get a trim,

557
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: and realizing as I'm being shorn, I mean, how bad

558
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: it's really gotten right there? It's bad and it's white

559
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: on the sides at this point, right, which is fine,

560
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: But I can't go bald because I got smith. We

561
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: have Big Lazer on the showy every every week, so

562
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm surrounded by the guys who have already,

563
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: you know, just given up on the last vestiges.

564
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: So I can't do it.

565
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: But as I'm sitting there and this shows, you know

566
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: where the brain goes, whoever's got the playlist going, suddenly

567
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: ABBA's the Winner takes It All comes on, which if

568
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: you know the song, you know exactly where I'm going.

569
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: If you don't, let me just say it. It's a

570
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: breakup song and it's a terrible, sad, depressing.

571
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: Song, like my hair is going down and I'm.

572
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: Watching you know how silver it is, and seeing the

573
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: big patch that just ain't there on the back of

574
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: the head anymore. And this song comes on and so

575
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: like I have to deflect. I'm like, wow, I'm getting

576
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: in the fields here. I'm like, who's going through it?

577
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: Let's talk, ladies, come on now, like what because I

578
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: heard the opening piano and I knew exactly what it

579
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: was before she even saying the first note, And I

580
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: got them to start opening up on their lives so

581
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: I could deflecting about my own.

582
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: Good move.

583
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Speaker 8: But at least you're doing it with dignity, not like

584
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Speaker 8: Ryan Dan Derek Carr.

585
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: There.

586
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 9: I said it there, I said, it looks so natural.

587
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 9: No one can tell way to go. I Loo, that's

588
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 9: Isaac lowincron at Isaac find Ryan at the Ryan Hollins

589
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 9: you got me over at Swollendome. Yeah, it's you know,

590
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 9: some of those realization moments talking about maturation and acceptance

591
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 9: of where you're at and being positive through it all.

592
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 9: So those of you that also face the demons in

593
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 9: the mirror this morning or last night, I appreciate you,

594
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 9: and you are seen Ryan. As we get going today,

595
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Speaker 9: we've got a couple of game sevens.

596
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Speaker 1: Average margin of victory.

597
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: And we'll talk more about the series in depth as

598
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: we go on twenty one point three. But I saw

599
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 2: a stat, you know, just to go back to our

600
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Speaker 2: conversation about the MAVs and company for a moment. Days

601
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: since last conference final or league championship appearance for Dallas teams.

602
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: So the Mavericks, okay, moving on zero Dallas Stars zero,

603
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: Texas Rangers two hundred and nine, Dallas Cowboys three hundred

604
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: and fifty two.

605
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Speaker 3: Wow.

606
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: I like that.

607
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: And so what you're saying is it's been a minute

608
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: zero ten, three five two zero number is going to

609
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 2: stay with me for the rest of the day. But

610
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: we look at the Western Conference side of things. Last

611
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: week we got into a bit of a heated, fun

612
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: and excitement kind of moment when it came to the

613
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray suspension that wasn't And now here we are

614
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Speaker 2: in a game seven scenario. And as I said, average

615
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: margin of victory in this series twenty one point three,

616
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: the give up forty five point performance. But Joker never

617
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: sat down, just sat and look, if I was in

618
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: the corner, I'd be a little salty. Hey, seven foot guy,

619
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Speaker 2: come on, you got a seat on the bench that

620
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: has your name on it. I paid a lot of

621
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: money to sit down here in this corner. Help me out,

622
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: will you, even if the game has already decided, because

623
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Speaker 2: by that point in the fourth quarter, h like I said,

624
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: not sitting down and not getting back in another one

625
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: of those throwaway efforts. Great for Minnesota and then not

626
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: so great for the NBA, except that we do getting

627
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: game seven.

628
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this man, listen, this has been one amazing season.

629
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Speaker 4: I think that the level of competition, the parody has

630
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: been unbelievable. I would say that the one tough spot

631
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Speaker 4: we can admit it's injury. All of the stars that

632
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: missed time or kind of had injuries that lingered. I mean,

633
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell could even play through. We don't want We

634
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Speaker 4: could go.

635
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Speaker 1: To a lot of speculation about that one.

636
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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, dot of him had to be heard.

637
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: He didn't just well and.

638
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: That's the thing, right, You've got reports of the you

639
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: know folks that are cynical, and then you've got the

640
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: well he might actually need surgery, like I've heard both extremes.

641
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, trust me, there's no way as a player.

642
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: He just said I'm gonna sit out I'm not gonna

643
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: be there. But again, there there's a number of stars

644
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: that have been missing in the competitive nature of the

645
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: NBA has gone up. But on the other side, these

646
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: guys have been hurt when you need the most. And

647
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: it's not just Kawhi Leonard. There's a number of stars

648
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: that that are that are out.

649
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: Look at that you had to throw that a little

650
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: side eye towards Kawhi Lenner.

651
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it's been lost in all of this.

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Speaker 1: I just assured he wasn't gonna play.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually giving Kawhi some props right now because everybody

654
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Speaker 4: will go, oh, he doesn't play. Well, there's a number

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Speaker 4: of guys who are hurt and not playing okay, when

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Speaker 4: they're when their team, you know, could could use them

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Speaker 4: at the most important time is you'd say, because hey,

658
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Speaker 4: they are legitimately injured, Okay, Kawhi Leonard doesn't want to

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Speaker 4: sit out on the side and just missed.

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Speaker 3: The game that he loves. No, he's injured, he's hurt. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So that's a part of it.

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Speaker 4: But you know, the point is is that these guys

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Speaker 4: are fighting through at the right time, and you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe you know the league is going to go back

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Speaker 4: and analyze and say, hey, maybe, okay, did we go

666
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Speaker 4: too hard? We've kind of changed these awards and kind

667
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Speaker 4: of forced them to get out there and play. And

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Speaker 4: now a lot of these guys are injured and can't play.

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Speaker 4: You know, did we did we go too hard?

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Speaker 2: Well, let's continue to talk about that, the sixty five

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Speaker 2: game threshold that comes in for awards season, sixty five

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Speaker 2: out of eighty two. We'll do the math as we continue.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmen. That's Ryan Hollins. This is Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

676
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Speaker 2: Ah, there we go. Get that dance move going on

677
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Speaker 2: a Sunday morning. A little bit of cardio, little Abbah.

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Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollinds. I'm Mike Harmon. It's Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Hear Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Before we well, we were last speaking, he brought up

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Speaker 2: the sixty five game threshold to be eligible for the

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Speaker 2: MVP Award all NBA teams and other honors.

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Speaker 1: And that one is.

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Speaker 2: One that I thought was curious in its implementation, and

686
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Speaker 2: you brought in what could be the nefarious consequences thereof

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Speaker 2: in terms of guys trying to get to that threshold.

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Speaker 2: I know there was a lot of just watching the

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Speaker 2: tracking of games played for Joel Embiid before he finally

690
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 2: missed extended time right because he was averaging thirty five

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Speaker 2: points a game and dominating to get there. And it's

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Speaker 2: one of those as it got implemented, just like raising

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Speaker 2: my hand, going all right, how did how did we

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Speaker 2: agree to this?

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Speaker 1: Where's where's where's this coming from?

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Speaker 2: As we got because you're talking about future contracts and

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00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: max deals and all of that become part of it

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Speaker 2: because it's all tied back back to the all NBA thing,

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Speaker 2: which again to me, is silly that we're tying max

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Speaker 2: contracts to votes from the media.

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Speaker 1: It's a very curious thing.

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Speaker 3: Here's why I stand with it. First off, I thought.

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Speaker 4: It was it's a little extreme for the league because

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Speaker 4: when the guy is hurt, he's hurt. But the best

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Speaker 4: thing about the NBA, for the NBA gets to write in.

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Speaker 4: The NBA was under a lot of scrutiny going into

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Speaker 4: this deal. Why the competitive level of the NBA players

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Speaker 4: was not there. These guys were given the league in

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Speaker 4: the name of bad rap because any little thing happened

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Speaker 4: and he'd be like, rest day, rest day, nothing happens.

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Speaker 4: Don't want to play on a back to back rest day.

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Speaker 3: Listen when I played and listen, I guess I heard it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: Kind of our family gonna look at you. You're not

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Speaker 1: that old. Get to work. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Back in my day, we played on back to packs.

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Speaker 1: Commercial.

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Speaker 3: We walked up hill both ways. Back in my day,

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Speaker 3: we practiced. We practiced in the NBA. Back in my day, one.

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Speaker 7: Day we had a triple back to talking about okay, so.

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Speaker 4: You know what, the league went a little extreme on

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Speaker 4: the other end and said, you know, we want to

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Speaker 4: make sure these guys get out and play. You guys,

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Speaker 4: there's no more sitting out. You can't hang. But the

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00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 4: league went very extreme and said, no, you jokers need

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Speaker 4: to come out here and play through these injuries. And

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Speaker 4: it caused some of these guys to get hurt and

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Speaker 4: to not not be able to play. So I think, ultimately,

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, this is this is

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Speaker 4: my fix. This is my two senses is my little fix.

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Speaker 4: I think what you do is you come out and

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Speaker 4: you you have a different It's between a rest day

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Speaker 4: and I'm legitimately hurt because guys were getting just penciled

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Speaker 4: in the thing with Kawhi Leonard, why everybody was saw

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Speaker 4: up in arms. He was getting just rest days that

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Speaker 4: he wasn't hurt, and he was just like, I'm going

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Speaker 4: to rest this day. This is too much, and they're like, whoaha, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 4: We don't pay you for rest days. And keep in mind,

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Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard is legitimately hurt. Everybody who has all this

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Speaker 4: this mess to say about him, the guy has hurt.

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Speaker 3: We don't know what his body feels like. I never

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Speaker 3: want to question another man's injury or the difficult thing. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: it's a horrible thing to do.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I think the

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Speaker 4: league should just say, hey, these rest days they're out,

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Speaker 4: they're gone.

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Speaker 3: You don't.

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Speaker 4: You don't, you're too young, you're too popular, too makes much,

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Speaker 4: too much money, there are no rest days. But what

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Speaker 4: there are going to be is, hey, this guy has hurt.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to penalize you, Joel and beat out

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Speaker 4: of an MVP race because your knee is falling off

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00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 4: and you're legitimately hurt. And then you put yourself in

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Speaker 4: a situation where you go into the postseason and you

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00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 4: cannot perform or you're a shell of yourself. You know

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Speaker 4: it for Joelle shout out, Joel to beat that just

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Speaker 4: may be Joelle's the rest of his career.

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Speaker 3: You know, people don't forget what he sait out.

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Speaker 2: Ye remember when he started exactly the fact that he

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Speaker 2: became the player that he did as a testament to

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Speaker 2: the work ethic and a little bit of the basketball

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Speaker 2: God smiling on you now. And again remember this was

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Speaker 2: also collectively bargained, so it did go through the Union.

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Speaker 2: So you know they're on the other side trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out what the make goods are and negotiating and

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Speaker 2: all that twenty minutes playing and at least sixty five

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Speaker 2: regular season games to be eligible for the NBA p

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Speaker 2: All NBA Teams, Defensive Player of the Year and or

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Speaker 2: All and All Defensive teams. So all of those things

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Speaker 2: that we know have huge ramifications come contract time. And

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Speaker 2: let's face it, Ryan, I mean, they're also looking at

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Speaker 2: the larger business of it, as you said, reputation, but

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Speaker 2: also what have we been talking about these last couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks, NBC getting back into the necks, how many

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Speaker 2: of these other and d'se just like we're watching the

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Speaker 2: fracturing of you know, here's a few games there there

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Speaker 2: and over there for the NFL, for the NBA. How

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Speaker 2: many different pieces of the pie are getting cut up

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Speaker 2: going forward. But if you don't have the product, i e.

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Speaker 2: The stars to sell, all right, I mean, because we

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Speaker 2: saw with the NFL they had the issue towards late

782
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Speaker 2: in the season with the number of injuries they had.

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Speaker 2: It's like, all right, this next matchup is featuring and

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Speaker 2: normally you'd have quarterbacks or offensive stars. Like here's a

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Speaker 2: picture of Bill Belichick and on the other side, you know,

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Speaker 2: here's a picture of Mike Tomlin. Like we're showing the coaches, Mike,

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Speaker 2: feature the players.

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Speaker 4: Mike, how many how many rest days would you allow?

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Speaker 4: And I mean I make I'd say, I'd say you

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Speaker 4: might have five rest days. If that where you you're

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Speaker 4: not injured and which you can't perform, I maybe go fell.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the thing, right, it's collectively bargain. You got

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Speaker 2: seventeen out of eighty two. That's a significant importance. I

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Speaker 2: mean that's twenty percent of your league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in again and again, a hurt, A hurt is

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Speaker 4: a much different than you should have as many hurt

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Speaker 4: if you're legitimately hurt.

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Speaker 3: The rest day's no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: No, Well you go back to the Union. You tell

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Speaker 2: them to argue that number down. He's Ryan Hollins. I'm

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Speaker 2: Mike Carmin coming up next. We start getting into the

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Speaker 2: game sevens that we'll enjoy later on today.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us on a beautiful Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: So much going on in the sporting universe. We've already

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Speaker 2: got some F one racing on PGA Championship getting going

812
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Speaker 2: this morning. We've got the English Premier League, full day

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Speaker 2: of Major League Baseball, and yes we have two count them,

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Speaker 2: two game seven's in your NBA. Mike Harman alongside Ryan

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Speaker 2: Allen's honor to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Ryan. Hour one went.

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Speaker 2: Through quickly, and right now you're drafting a memo to

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Speaker 2: the NBA Players Association to say, you need to reduce

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Speaker 2: that game and figure out how to get other Do

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Speaker 2: you get a doctor's note? Is that what we're talking

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Speaker 2: about for those that missed the end of last hour,

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Speaker 2: talking about the sixty five game threshold and whether there

823
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Speaker 2: may be the unintended consequences of guys forcing themselves back

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Speaker 2: onto a court, thereby maybe creating bigger injury problems, forcing

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Speaker 2: them to miss more time and the playoffs as we've seen, like,

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Speaker 2: how do we go through you get a doctor's note

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Speaker 2: where you actually have to have a procedure, Like we

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Speaker 2: got to carve this out if we're going to do

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Speaker 2: this and go back to the union.

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Speaker 3: I mean we do like we normally do. We pay

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Speaker 3: people a lot of money.

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Speaker 10: And find some consultants and then well it was literally

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Speaker 10: said like rest day, Like, what's wrong with him?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Rest day? He's tired? What?

835
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Speaker 4: Like they're even young players. Okay, there were young guys.

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Speaker 4: I'm joined, well, what's going on? You're gonna play them

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Speaker 4: all now? Rest day?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 4: There's no way, Like these things got completely out of hand. Now,

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Speaker 4: how you differentiate that is to your conscience, that is

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Speaker 4: to the professionals. But I tell you one thing, you know,

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00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 4: it's gonna have to be evaluated. But hey, Joel embiid,

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00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 4: we saw his knee, his knee giving out in the

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Speaker 4: middle of games.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that wasn't good to see.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing Ryan, Right, we start going back

847
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Speaker 2: to the old hurt versus injured kind of discussion on things, right,

848
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Speaker 2: because we've had that multiple times this series went with Luca, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean during the series against the thunder, all right,

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Speaker 2: how injured is he?

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Speaker 1: How broken down?

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Speaker 2: How much is he playing rope of dope to lull

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Speaker 2: you to sleep and then come back and hit either

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Speaker 2: a big shot in your face?

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Speaker 1: What was it?

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Speaker 2: Earlier this week there was a sequence where he's limping

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Speaker 2: and kind of moving slowly back in front and then.

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Speaker 1: He does this great step back three.

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Speaker 2: It's like, all right, now he's just playing possib So

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Speaker 2: I think that's the other part is like you got

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Speaker 2: to you know, going back to playing your conscience, you know,

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Speaker 2: young or old, it still becomes that same thing, you know.

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Speaker 2: How sick am I? Am I going to help he

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Speaker 2: around the house today? Am I going to feign that

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Speaker 2: I got a bit of a tummy ache? Everybody's doing

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Speaker 2: it wherever you are across American, across the globe, because

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Speaker 2: we are global on the iHeartRadio app. You know, Brian

868
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: that you know, folks are deciding, you know, how much

869
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: are they going to involve themselves versus maybe tapping out

870
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: of something they don't want to do.

871
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: No, You're absolutely right, man, it's a you know, it's

872
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 4: it's a real thing. It's a real thing, and I'm sure, hey,

873
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: the league is going to fine tune it. It's never

874
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: going to be absolutely perfect, but it is something to

875
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 4: look at, man, and it is a you know, there

876
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 4: definitely is a cause for concern with it, with guys

877
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 4: just missing games, not playing, not being out there. Man,

878
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: you want to see the league's best competition. You want

879
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 4: to see you know, the best out there. And also

880
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: I didn't think it was good, you know, seeing Joelle

881
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 4: being hurt and trying to perform her It wasn't a

882
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 4: good look. So I think again, these things will be

883
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: fine tuned and they're gonna find a way to figure

884
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: themselves out.

885
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that on a little different scale. Right,

886
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: you're on the league, you're working with the Houston Rockets.

887
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: A lot of youth and guys rising up there another

888
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: team when we talk about the Western Conference, like, hey,

889
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: you know there's gonna be nobody left behind in all

890
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 2: of this, right, It's just going to be a battle

891
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: for those ten slots we look at.

892
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: Eventually the Victor Weman.

893
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: Yama thing more talent around him in San Antonio, they'll

894
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: actually add wins next year in theory, not just another

895
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: great player, but the number of injuries that we had.

896
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: Is there anything that we could put a finger on

897
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: to the number of guys that got hurt and missed time?

898
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: Like we talked about all defensive teams, all NBA whatever else.

899
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like the end of a scroll when

900
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: you're you know, watching cable television and everybody's done this

901
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: where you're watching a movie and you know it's been

902
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: compressed for time a little bit, so they scroll the

903
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 2: credits really fast, so it's a lot of names going

904
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: by really fast, so they could start the other movie, right,

905
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: it does the picture and picture thing to start the

906
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: credits for the next one. That's what we had with

907
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 2: the number of guys that got hurt in the NBA

908
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: this year. Well, what was at star power everywhere? What

909
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: do you pin it to.

910
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

911
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 4: For one thing, the league was more competitive than ever

912
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 4: down the stretch with the play in, so you weren't

913
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: just guaranteed the age spot of the NBA. And that's

914
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 4: a large reason why a lot of guys were injured,

915
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: you know.

916
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: Those taxing minutes down the stretch as opposed to tapping.

917
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and these were well not just that, these were

918
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 4: competitive games, like teams were literally fighting, okay to be

919
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: in those spots, and that that was a big issue.

920
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: Then on top of that, you can you can say,

921
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: you know, the league is just better, man and a

922
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 4: lot of our superstars have gotten older, and with them

923
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: getting older, man, competing against these young guys, it was

924
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: hard to keep up. So again, as you noted with

925
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: the Houston Rockets, my Rockets, it's nice to be younger

926
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: as the league moves forward.

927
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: Okay, look around.

928
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 4: There's no Kevin Durant in the playoffs right now, There's

929
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 4: no Lebron James, there's no Steph Curry.

930
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: All of these greats are are are are are.

931
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 4: Fading off, you know, or they're gonna have to get

932
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 4: into situations where they need help. And I mean, man,

933
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: there is just a number of teams missing. And the

934
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 4: one thing about the Rockets, they did a great job

935
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 4: doing what they were healthy this year, you know, and

936
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 4: those big moments, you know, the Rockets were healthy. And

937
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: that's one thing about being young is that you have

938
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: the ability to get out there and participate in moving forward.

939
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: The future is bite and you're you're gonna want those

940
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 4: those the young talent man that's starting to go through

941
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 4: because as we're saying, a lot of injuries, I mean

942
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 4: we can go down. I mean there's a heavy, heavy list. Yeah,

943
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 4: stars missing playoff time, stars missing in moments where you again,

944
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 4: you'd need them most.

945
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: We're talking about that a lot as related to one

946
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: of the Game seven's that we'll get later on today,

947
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: we've got twelve thirty Pacific, three thirty Eastern time, Indiana

948
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: and New York getting after it. Josh Hart the abdominal strain.

949
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: We watched him pull up in Game six and he

950
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: was holding his stomach and looking for that one piece

951
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: of video to try to say exactly what happened. Right,

952
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: did he get hit? Did he take an elbow as

953
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: we'd seen you know, other players missing time, Right, Jared

954
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: Allen took that shot to the ribs and ended up

955
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: missing multiple games for Cleveland in their series instead abdominal strain. Right,

956
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: all the work he's done on the boards, he'll try

957
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: to give it a go. But for New York, the

958
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: other injury of note that has, you know, derailed them

959
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of shortening that rotation O

960
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: Gion Andobi and we know what his impact was after

961
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: coming over to the Knicks this season. Well, what a

962
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 2: huge boost that would be just to get him out

963
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: in the warm up line.

964
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and for this series, for the New York

965
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: game today, Man, these injuries are going to be huge.

966
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 4: And I think it's just tough because you know, if

967
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: you like basketball, you fell in love with this New

968
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: York Next team. They play hard, they're tough, they play

969
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 4: for the next man.

970
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: Uh. He got great storylines all over the place.

971
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 4: You know, you you got you got three teammates who

972
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 4: won the college national championship on the same team playing

973
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: for the Knicks.

974
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

975
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 4: And then Jalen Brunson's dad is on the staff. So

976
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: you can't help for full for that this underdog story.

977
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: But unfortunately, these injuries just may be too much. And

978
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, that's what

979
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 4: we're going to see here, uh for the for the Knicks.

980
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: Three and a half point favorites at home two o

981
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: seven and a half the over under on this one.

982
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: And that's the question, how many times can the short

983
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: staff Nicks answer the bell. We'll answer that question in

984
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes. I want to keep it

985
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 2: on the injury front, right because we talk about heart,

986
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: we talk about on a know, we talk about all

987
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: the guys that aren't available for the Knicks, and it's

988
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: a laundry list of guys through the year. And that's

989
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: where you know, you get in and Thibodeau gets his

990
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 2: new deal and you celebrate it and look, I love

991
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: the style, but I recognize, you know, with ninety style

992
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: basketball comes the laundry list of injuries that we've talked about,

993
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: going back to when Thibodeau was coaching the Bulls or

994
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: the Tea Wolves unit. You picket where towards the end

995
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 2: of the year, you're just wondering will they have enough

996
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: to crawl to the finish line and how much of

997
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: that is while you build a culture that is all

998
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: about heart. No pun intended with Josh Hart, but a

999
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: guy who's rebounding I've joked all week, I want to

1000
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: get the masterclass, right. I could learn drumming from Ringo

1001
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: and proper positioning and rebounding despite my size from Josh Hart, Right,

1002
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: those kind of things. I want to learn skills that

1003
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: one's not really practical, but I think we could extrapolate,

1004
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: you know, the angles and opportunities and being able to

1005
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: read a room into other venues. But that's that's for

1006
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 2: me and him to decide in a future zoom call.

1007
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: But to the point with Thibodeaux, right, often criticized for

1008
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: the style because of injuries, but being praised for it.

1009
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: It's kind of that right now because of the success

1010
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: of these knicks. So it's kind of that trying to

1011
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: figure out in the end, where does the larger weight

1012
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: fall on the scale.

1013
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 4: It's man, this is Tibbs has brought New York basketball

1014
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: to a place that they haven't been in a very

1015
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 4: very long time.

1016
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: Twenty five years. Man, we're talking about.

1017
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 4: Very long time. So there should be nobody frowning or

1018
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: turning up their nose at what Tibbs has done this year. Okay,

1019
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 4: there's no there should be no questions there. But yeah,

1020
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 4: of course it's a thing dude, you your best players

1021
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: are not able to participate in there. They're dropping like

1022
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: flies at this point. And we know it's because the

1023
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: heavy minutes. We know og couldn't play the heavy minutes.

1024
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: We know Josh Hart is just I mean, he's selling

1025
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: out in his minutes.

1026
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: He's doing he's doing everything he can.

1027
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 4: It's not like he's he's halfway playing them, man, He's

1028
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 4: he's literally going going at it. Man. And you know

1029
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 4: Josh Hart, you said he's got a lot of heart unintended, Okay,

1030
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 4: and uh, you know for him to be missing, you

1031
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 4: know that it's something serious. So I'm torn between two

1032
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 4: and I think that's New York's in a good place

1033
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 4: and I think this was a fun run. I think

1034
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: you got to give the respect to Tims. But absolutely

1035
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: those guys need rest, there's no question about that.

1036
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about game seven's coming up here. We've

1037
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: got Denver, Minnesota a little bit later. Anthony Edwards uh

1038
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: being known for his honesty and candor in post game

1039
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 2: interviews as much as anything else. We'll talk about Youth

1040
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: Served Yo, Kitchen Company, and more on Nicks Pacers as

1041
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: we continue. He's Ryan Hollins ten years in the League

1042
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: at Ryan Hollins is where you find him on Twitter.

1043
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,360
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1044
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,000
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1045
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,600
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1046
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,640
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1047
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,880
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1048
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,680
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1049
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,960
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1050
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,600
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1051
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,400
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1052
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,919
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1053
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,480
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1054
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,560
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1055
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1056
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1057
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: it's the free gift that keeps on going, right Ryan,

1058
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: As we get towards Father's Day, maybe maybe you're delinking

1059
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: a week on Mother's Day, you know, pop.

1060
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: A card in right out the UURL and just say.

1061
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: Here you go, Mom, Grandma, Auntie, whoever, It's a gift

1062
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: that keeps on giving. So get that early Father's Day

1063
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: gift out as well. I'm trying to get a line

1064
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: of greeting cards together that include all the links to

1065
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: everything that we're doing here.

1066
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: You know, got to keep.

1067
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 2: Expanding, aggressive, expansion, as Keith Ledger's Joker said so long ago.

1068
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back into these games seven.

1069
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: We're talking a little bit of Pacers, Knicks and what

1070
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: started out as a great series. I mean, look, we're

1071
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 2: getting a game seven, right, so by definition great series, right,

1072
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: But the last three games have been anything but Pacers

1073
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: blowout in Game four, Knicks blowout Game five, and then

1074
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: the Pacers one sixteen one oh three. But anybody that

1075
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: watched that that was not a one sixteen one oh

1076
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: three game. It did not feel like the Knicks were

1077
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: anywhere near that game. So now we get to a

1078
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: game seven, heart injured again, the heart and soul he

1079
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: and Brunson of what they've done. Devincenzo is got a

1080
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: little bit of that tough guy in him, willing to

1081
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: take on all comers, and maybe you get on Anobi

1082
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: back that would be just a huge boost for them

1083
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: amongst all those classic Knicks that will be on the

1084
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: sidelines again, which is fun so he's spot the knicks.

1085
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: Which era are these guys from? And the other day

1086
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: I mentioned this and Ryan, I mean, you're a guy

1087
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 2: that look you're seven feet tall. So the suits and everything,

1088
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to go custom made, custom paid,

1089
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: custom fitted right all the way through. And anytime I

1090
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: see Clyde Frasier when he's sitting there again when they

1091
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: were getting buried the other night, and he had that

1092
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: suit on right, a little bit of sparkle, always with

1093
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: the pizzazz, and he you know, he's sitting there and

1094
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: the knees are up and he had his hands folded

1095
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: like he was Montgomery Burns. I want to camera on

1096
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,479
Speaker 2: him because I know some stuff's about to go down.

1097
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong. Don't you get that feel that

1098
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: whatever Clyde's around, that that something could go sideways a

1099
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: little bit, that he's, you know, working.

1100
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Up a master plan.

1101
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 4: Well you're yeah. I mean you're literally looking at a

1102
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 4: legendary man. And I mean, look, if I could get

1103
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 4: my fits to look half as good as Clyde Frasier

1104
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 4: on air, man, Okay, listen, that's.

1105
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: The family feel about you embracing the sparkle, because that's

1106
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: just it you got to get a little bit bit

1107
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: be dazzled. Whether someone do that, does that in the

1108
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: house with one of those little machines, or whether you

1109
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: go and pay, you know, to have someone do that local.

1110
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 4: I mean, this is is like legendary stuff that we're

1111
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 4: talking about here.

1112
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: Well, we're trying to take it next level you and I.

1113
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you literally have to at this point,

1114
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 4: man it look that good.

1115
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: Man, No, that's it right, look good, play good, feel good.

1116
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: All of those things kind of wrap up it, you know,

1117
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: And you can attribute that to everybody that's set in

1118
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: for Ricky Henderson, Deion Sanders down now when we look

1119
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: at this Knicks squad, I mean, Jalen Bronson's been the

1120
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: story for this squad and deservedly so. Right, a guy that,

1121
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: as we talked about a little bit last week, I

1122
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: think I've heard more apologies in our larger media sphere

1123
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: for those doubting the contract that the Nicks signed him

1124
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: to remember, because as you mentioned his dad on the staff,

1125
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: So I was like, ah, was there you know, ever

1126
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: a chance for the Mavericks and blah blah blah to Matchwell,

1127
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: he goes to New York and now you're looking at

1128
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: a Knick squad that's relevant for the first time in

1129
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: twenty five years. Really frightening to think about that that

1130
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: for twenty five years it's been Taylor Swift, Billy Joel, concerts,

1131
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: the circus, whatever else has come through the Rangers. But

1132
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: now obviously actually having the Knicks be relevant once again.

1133
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, make no mistake whether you love him

1134
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 4: or hate him, much like the Lakers, it's much better

1135
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: for basketball with the Knicks. Lakers are good, okay, just

1136
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: brings more money to the sport, brings more exposure, and

1137
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: just for them to be in the mix. But it's

1138
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 4: been I mean it's been so long, literally, it's been

1139
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 4: so long for the for the Knicks that yeah, I

1140
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 4: think at this point, even if you're a Nick hater,

1141
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: you're like everybody's like pulling for him because it's just

1142
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 4: it's been an I've seen amount of time. But again,

1143
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: this is a team of underdogs. Man, It's just a

1144
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 4: team that you can pull for. And I tell you

1145
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: one thing. The Garden, you know, I'll say, no question,

1146
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 4: the best place that it's the mecca basketball, and I'm

1147
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: an LA guy, it is it is a different environment

1148
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 4: there in the garden, there's there's you can just feel

1149
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 4: the history, the lighting, everything is different, the celebrities are there.

1150
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: It's a show.

1151
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: So now you bring the playoffs back and it's it's

1152
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 4: a real thing.

1153
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of cool the fact that the last

1154
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: time they won was when Phil Jackson was actually a player,

1155
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: still throwing those bony elbows in the.

1156
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: In the little post Oaks.

1157
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: If you you know only no Bill Jackson the coach,

1158
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: go back and find some cool video. He was a

1159
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: badass and he loved you to get into it as well.

1160
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: But when we look at the Knicks and just go

1161
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: through the laundry list of guys that are out, I mean,

1162
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: it's just an amazing.

1163
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 3: Pile.

1164
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: Right when you look at Robinson and Randall Bogdanovich and

1165
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: go on down the line on I know we having

1166
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: missed the first run of this series, that we get

1167
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: this game seven set up and for Indiana, I don't

1168
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: know what team I'm getting and the old Tom Hanks.

1169
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: Life's like a box of chocolates and all its all

1170
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: finding good. But other than Pascal Siakam on a night

1171
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: to night basis, I don't know who else is showing up.

1172
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: That's a dangerous part for Rick Carlisle.

1173
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: No, well, here's the thing.

1174
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 4: The Pacers play by with their speed, their pace as

1175
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 4: a team, and they're gonna be in a great place

1176
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 4: to win this series. Why because they are going to

1177
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 4: wear down the Knicks. And that's what's been going on here.

1178
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: The Knicks can't keep up this pace of play and

1179
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: they're getting they're knocked off, they're kidding injured, They're having

1180
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 4: to work so hard to be in a position to succeed.

1181
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 4: So that's the X factor right here in the series

1182
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 4: is just the Knicks are not healthy enough.

1183
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about depth, getting a great bench play. McConnell

1184
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: and former Nick Obi Toppin has been a bit of

1185
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 2: a force off the bench, especially down in the low

1186
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: post working against Heart and Evincenzo.

1187
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that flows.

1188
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: Haliburton's a guy that you know has the spotlight on

1189
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: him obviously the team USA when Brunson's left off and

1190
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: all of that. So those are the fun comparisons that

1191
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: we get to make along the way. I'm just I'm

1192
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: happy and sad at the same part because those that

1193
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: are unaware. My weekday partner, Jason Smith seven to eleven

1194
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: Pacific time. You know, huge Knicks fan. There's a promo

1195
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: running where I'm making a cogin argument about something and

1196
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: he just starts screaming like a lunatic because of a

1197
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: shot made. So I'm sad not to be sitting next

1198
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: to him for this one, Ryan, but also kind of

1199
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: happy to not be sitting next to him for this

1200
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: one later today.

1201
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 4: You mean he didn't fly in for a Knicks game seven.

1202
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 4: Isn't this like like you may never see it again

1203
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 4: in your adult lifetime, like something you just we should.

1204
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: Have done to go fund me?

1205
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1206
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: Out there?

1207
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1208
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would have been angry if he

1209
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 4: took off and.

1210
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: Hear him out there Frank the Tank.

1211
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is kind of like if you're a

1212
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 4: Nick fan, you kind of have to be there, right, No, well,

1213
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 4: you may never see there's some keep in mind there,

1214
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 4: but there's some people hadn't seen it in their lifetime.

1215
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: No, but that's just it, right.

1216
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: We go back to ninety nine ninety four before that,

1217
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: when they were, you know, part of the subplot of

1218
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: the OJ Chase. Those are the last two times that

1219
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: this team's been relevant, and they've had some good starts,

1220
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 2: but again, owing to you got to finish the eighty

1221
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: two plus to make some runs. And while we haven't

1222
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: seen that for a long time. To your point, yeah,

1223
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: it's more fun when they're involved, right, stars are out,

1224
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: celebrities get there and you get a little bit of

1225
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 2: the history lessons. And that's what you always love about

1226
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: some of this that you can grab the footage of

1227
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: back in the day, and certainly this series at times,

1228
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: and again the first three games, I think more so

1229
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: than the last three Ryan where we had that physicality,

1230
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: so you could really start promoting the basketball that you

1231
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: had when John Starks, Charles Oakley who still can't get

1232
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: into the garden, Patrick Ewing and those guys were roaming

1233
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: the court because you had those battles beyond the Reggie

1234
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: Miller eight point barrage, just some of those classic battles with.

1235
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: The Davises against the front line of the Knicks.

1236
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: I mean that was when you know, a different age

1237
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: of basketball, and somehow those guys still played all their games.

1238
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: It'll be that well.

1239
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 4: Also keep in mind, hell see.

1240
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: What I did there, Well, you got to throw this

1241
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 3: in all.

1242
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: Some I was giving you love because I mean I should.

1243
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it was your time here's.

1244
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 4: The thing too, the challenge with that to to my

1245
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 4: old head, so to my veterans, the pace of play

1246
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 4: in today's basketball is so much faster than what they

1247
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 4: played at So when they talk about well we played

1248
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 4: every yeah, you walked up the ball up court and

1249
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 4: played in the eighties. Okay, So the conditioning and the

1250
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 4: chance of injury is much much different because these guys

1251
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 4: are playing a lot more basketball. There's a lot more

1252
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 4: possessions where they're in pick and roll, where they're fighting

1253
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 4: through pick and rolls, where they're making these plays.

1254
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 3: So this is this is a different level.

1255
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 4: So not to take away from what they did, but

1256
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 4: it's a it's it's a different level of basketball. So

1257
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 4: there's a level where they do need they do need rest.

1258
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 4: We're not going to challenge that. That's why I said, hey,

1259
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 4: give them a number. How you got you got what five?

1260
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 4: Let's say ten rest days, ten rest days whatever. We're

1261
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 4: not going to count injuries. Okay, well monitor injuries, but

1262
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 4: we're not going to count them. You know, we'll call

1263
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 4: them into question, which is fair. But you know, these

1264
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 4: guys having the ball in their hand for eighty two

1265
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 4: games and is tough. It's different when you're doing it

1266
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 4: at a one hundred and twenty point pace than doing

1267
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 4: it at an eighty point pace where you walk the

1268
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 4: ball up the court.

1269
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: So I need I need old school coaches to come

1270
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: back in and slow this down, take you out of

1271
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: your pace. Let's go, let's go back to the low posts.

1272
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 2: Frind out those shot clocks.

1273
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 3: Let's go. Oh good, due, Now you hate.

1274
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: Me at a whole other level. He's Ryan Hollins on

1275
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: my garment.

1276
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: We're here.

1277
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. We'll clip to

1278
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: the other side. We've got Denver, Minnesota coming up later

1279
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: on tonight. But first, it's Isaac Glowing Coron. He's got

1280
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: what's trending in our spurting universe.

1281
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: Fellas.

1282
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 8: We have a brand new eyewitness account of the circumstances

1283
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 8: that led to Scottie Scheffler's arrest on Friday morning, that

1284
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 8: coming up to seconds from now. First of all, in

1285
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 8: Game six of the NBA's Western Conference semi Finals on

1286
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 8: Saturday night, the Dallas Mavericks defeated at Oklahoma City one

1287
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 8: seventeen to one sixteen to win the series four games

1288
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 8: to two in advance to the Western Conference Finals. After

1289
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 8: three rounds of the PGA Championship, Colin Morikawa and Xander

1290
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 8: Schoffler tied for the lead at fifteen under par overall.

1291
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 8: The afore mentioned Scotty Scheffler now eight shots back at

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Speaker 8: seven under after two over seventy three on Saturday. Now,

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Speaker 8: this new eyewitness account comes from ESPN commentator Bob was Shusen,

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01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 8: who gave his account to golf dot Com. This morning,

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01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 8: Scheffler's vehicle pulled up to the left side of a

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Speaker 8: vehicle that.

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Speaker 3: Was shosen was in.

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01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 8: Was Shosin said, the officer initially kind of jumped in

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01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 8: front of Scheffler's vehicle with was Shuzen, describing the officer's

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01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 8: demeanor as quote, he was pretty you know, enthusiastic, let's say,

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01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 8: unquote with shoesin's. The officer beamed his flashlight up and

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01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 8: down Scheffler's car and yelled at him with words to

1303
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 8: the effect of whoa, WHOA, WHOA who are you? Where

1304
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 8: are you going? Get back in line? You're not allowed

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 8: to come through here with shoes An added quote, When

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01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 8: Scheffler drove past him, the cop got very angry, pursuing

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Speaker 8: the car. My impression was he was kind of running

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Speaker 8: alongside chasing the car, and maybe he tripped and fell.

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01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 8: I mean there was kind of an outcropping or median,

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 8: you know, by the front gate. And keep in mind

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01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 8: it was raining, it was six o'clock in the morning,

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01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 8: it was dark. I could see him stumble, but I

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01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 8: did not have a very clear view of exactly how

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Speaker 8: you want to categorize his contact with the car unquote.

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01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 8: So that a new account of the incident that led

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 8: to Scheffler's arrest on Friday.

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, I was really kind of nervous

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01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: that you were.

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01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: You had some movie thing cued up there, I low

1320
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: the way you set that up a new eyewaitness to

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01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: cat like, uh oh happy Gilmour too previews.

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01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: What do we got?

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Speaker 8: Well, the guys at TMZ are still working on it,

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01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 8: so maybe there might be some video here.

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Ilo at Isaac and Low and Kron Following

1326
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: their part of the Angel City FC broadcasting team and

1327
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: getting ready for relentless Enthusiasm attacking the day as a

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01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 2: member of the Chargers broadcast team as well.

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01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: Mike Rman alongside Ryan Hollins with you as well.

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01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: How about that crazy kind of situation that flowed out

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01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 2: this week. Ryan, I don't know how much you paid

1332
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: attention to some of the accounts and the reporting about

1333
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: the Scheffler incident, but certainly golf getting a little bit

1334
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: of run here over the last couple of days, kind

1335
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: of breaking through with one of the majors playing out.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the big thing, I thought, He responded, excellent.

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01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 4: I think what's tough is because you can't class o

1338
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 4: where somebody died, somebody lost their life, So there was

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01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: a huge sense of urgency at the end of the

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01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 4: day to make sure that no body else got across. Okay,

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01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 4: So we cannot, we cannot and will not gloss over that,

1342
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 4: and hopefully both sides can kind of come to a

1343
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 4: measure and be okay, and you know, can you say

1344
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 4: it was an extreme I hope they can brush it

1345
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 4: off and you know, no harm, no foul. I didn't

1346
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 4: think he should have even been driving his own car.

1347
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 1: That's a whole other process, right.

1348
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you are a megastar, for instance, when I

1349
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 4: played with the Clippers, Chris Paul, okay, megastar Chris Paul

1350
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 4: didn't drive himself to the games.

1351
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: He had a security drive himself. So if there is

1352
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 3: something that happened.

1353
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 4: If there is a question of anything, his security step

1354
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 4: right in and hey, please let mister Paul through. What's

1355
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 4: the procedure. Hey, we we played games over at Staples Center.

1356
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 4: When we will go in, Guess what. There are certain

1357
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 4: days where you know, parking would be tough, there'd be

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01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 4: a lot of traffic. Hey, there may even be a

1359
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 4: rally going on towards the arena or downtown LA or

1360
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 4: wherever you may be playing. Hey, be careful, there's a

1361
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 4: rally going on. Be careful, there's this, this and this happening.

1362
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 4: So you know what, you go into those situations and

1363
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 4: you'd be a whole lot more careful, or you'd know,

1364
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 4: or you kind of be escorted a certain way. So

1365
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 4: my question is, why aren't these golfers being taken care of,

1366
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 4: and especially somewhat of the stature the best golfer of

1367
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 4: the tournament, you know. So those things need to be

1368
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 4: address and fixed and hopefully no harm, no foul.

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01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 3: But it's tough.

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Speaker 4: He got booked and sent in and it seemed like

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01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 4: a lot. And I don't want to say it was

1372
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 4: extreme because I wasn't there, I hadn't seen the video.

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01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 4: I'm no expert, and I don't know. I just hope

1374
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 4: that both sides can come to a resolve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that there was shoes in account

1376
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: does kind of fly in the face of what the

1377
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: lawyer was contending, etc.

1378
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: And that you know he.

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 2: Was following the direction of an officer, because this says

1380
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: flat out guy trying to ascertain what's going on. And

1381
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: as to your point and what I made when we

1382
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: were talking about this, Jason and I quite a bit

1383
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 2: like you got a height everything. It was a guy

1384
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: that was helping to work security for the event that

1385
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: was killed, and that's the aftermath of it, is the

1386
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: log jam getting in and I know other golfers got

1387
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: in without incident. Well, it looks like he disobeyed and

1388
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: dismissed whatever this officer was, whether he was security or

1389
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: a police officer, because people were trying to make that distinction.

1390
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: Either way, it's someone in authority that has, you know,

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01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: your access to the facility. And you know, we we

1392
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 2: then had fun with the fact that the police report

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: had to enumerate that the pants were worth eighty dollars.

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01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: And were irreparably damaged in the process. So there you go.

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 2: We always have to find a little bit of levity

1396
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: on the back end of it. But to your point,

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01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: I hope combra heads prevailed. They figure out the the

1398
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 2: chargers and whatever else. Seems like everybody's going all right.

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01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 2: I know the officer had to go to the hospital

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01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 2: and get checked out for the abrasions at all, and

1401
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, and hopefully they come to an amical, amicable resolution.

1402
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: And traditions like guys driving themselves up maybe go away,

1403
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: Maybe go away.

1404
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: You had other golfers who.

1405
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: Walked it and realizing that there was the traffic scenario.

1406
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: We saw several other Zalatorus and others that walk the

1407
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,480
Speaker 2: the two miles or whatever they were from their hotel.

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01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: To get up there. All right, Enough of that.

1409
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: Back to the NBA as we flow through, Ryan t Wolves, young, plucky, tall,

1410
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: deep roster Yo get you at home in a game seven.

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01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 4: I like the Nuggets. I like the Nuggets its experience. Obviously,

1412
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 4: a lot of this is going to be about Jamal Murray.

1413
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 4: He's the guy who can hit big shots. He's shown

1414
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 4: up and Mike, I don't know how you feel about this.

1415
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 4: He plays well. All's forgotten about the other games. That's

1416
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 4: all that matters is at game seven, What did you

1417
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 4: do in this game seven?

1418
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 3: In this moment?

1419
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 4: And I think for the Nuggets the big key for them,

1420
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 4: they've got to be great defensively. They've got to win

1421
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 4: on this end. They got to throw bodies at yo kids.

1422
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 4: They've got to frustrate him. They have to get out

1423
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 4: in transition. They got to speed this game up. But

1424
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,879
Speaker 4: I don't think they can rely on the offensive execution.

1425
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 4: It won't be there. But defensively is where they're going

1426
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 4: to have to win this game. But for Jamal Murray,

1427
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: I think you got to harass him and you got

1428
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 4: to harass Jo Kis. You can't let those two be

1429
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 4: a factor. And then you can't give up any easy buckets.

1430
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 4: You know, you can't give up the transition Aaron Gordon

1431
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 4: slam dunks or you know, the open porter junior threes.

1432
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 4: Those are the ones that hurt you in a game

1433
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 4: like this because Denver truly plays as a team, in

1434
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 4: a unit, and they'll thrive off those games.

1435
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at Jamal Murray just ten points in

1436
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 2: that blowout loss, but he was four of eighteen. He

1437
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: was three of eighteen going back to game two, So

1438
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: you've certainly had some bad shooting nights from him, and

1439
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: like theggressiveness and physicality with which Minnesota has attacked both

1440
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 2: he and go back to the first two games of

1441
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: the series, how difficult it was for Jokic to find

1442
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: space not only for his own shot, but to create

1443
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: as he does so well. So I'm curious to see

1444
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: what the seven footers. I'm showing all the love for

1445
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: the opinionated seven footers out there, my guy Ryan Hollins,

1446
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: But for Jamal Murray, how bad do you think the

1447
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: elbow really is versus a He came a talking point

1448
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: after a four for eighteen.

1449
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: Man, but that's always the hard thing for me.

1450
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 4: At this point in the year. It's bad, man. These

1451
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 4: guys are banged up. Jamal Murray's been banged up. You

1452
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 4: know he's fighting through He really if you think back,

1453
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 4: it was.

1454
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 1: Is that why the tala was short?

1455
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why he baked the amble the best game

1456
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 4: and that.

1457
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 3: They deal with the talent. I'm just for shooting, but

1458
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 3: he was questionable.

1459
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 4: He had to walk in and he was told by

1460
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 4: the medical staff, you're not playing Jamal and against the

1461
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 4: Laker Jamalgos, No, no, no, I'm playing. I'm playing I'm

1462
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 4: gonna be out there on the floor, and he did so.

1463
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 4: Keep in mind he's fighting through a lot.

1464
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: End of the year, like nobody's one hundred percent. It's

1465
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: all just a matter going back to again the management

1466
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: of things. Unfortunately you don't have this sixty five game

1467
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: threshold in the playoffs. Every game magnified and certainly a

1468
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: Game seven which we all celebrate. Coming up, we'll go

1469
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: back to the Minnesota side of things. Anthony Edwards with

1470
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: one of the great quotes, and he's given us a

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01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: number over the course of this series, the latest being

1472
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: the Game seven, and no, it's got nothing to do

1473
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 2: with any relation to Michael Jordan.

1474
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: He's Ryan Hollinds.

1475
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm by Carmen, and this is Fox Sports Sunday on

1476
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in Fox Sports a Radio,

1477
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: He's Ryan Hollinds. I'm by Carmen. Thanks for being with us.

1479
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: This morning.

1480
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: We witnessed another Max Verse stop and win in Italy

1481
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:01,919
Speaker 2: on the F one circuit. The giant bottles on the podium.

1482
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: Champagne is for the podium of course. Got Ango's Premier

1483
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: League Soccer gonna kick off in about ten minutes from

1484
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 2: now Man City getting after it. Arsenal right behind them

1485
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: in the standings, two points behind. Say, I'm a big nerd.

1486
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 2: We've got so much sporting activity those two game sevens

1487
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: Ryan that we've got later on and talking about Denver

1488
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 2: and the veteran acumen that they've got and the team

1489
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:33,879
Speaker 2: relationship Michael Malone, et cetera. One of my favorite quotes

1490
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 2: from Anthony Edwards, who's been given us just gold right

1491
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: taking responsibility when he said, my energy isn't right, you know,

1492
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: and I to repeded us in things that you normally

1493
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 2: don't get the candor, especially with younger players, to that

1494
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: level that he's been standing out now. Obviously a lot

1495
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: of people doing those morphing Edwards into Jordan things has

1496
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: been kind of a little creepy, but.

1497
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: Hey, it is what it is.

1498
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 2: But he was asked about the Timberwolves wanting to win

1499
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 2: Game seven for Mike Conley, who's zero for four in

1500
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: game seven's in his career. Unfortunately, the audio quality isn't

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01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: up to par and broadcast standards.

1502
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: Through our guys Shay.

1503
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: Because he evaluated this one and tried to parse it

1504
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: out however he could. So we'll do the dramatic reading quote.

1505
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: I want to wait for myself. I wasn't with Mike

1506
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 2: whenever he was playing Game seven, so that has nothing.

1507
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: To do with me.

1508
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 2: You go, young man, How great is that I didn't

1509
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: play on those teams?

1510
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with his own four about me.

1511
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 3: He's honest, dude, He's ho.

1512
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. He's becoming a full hero.

1513
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 2: It's like we love the Knicks for the on court

1514
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 2: throwback kind of basketball. I'm gonna I may be losing Linz,

1515
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: like I'm in a mony Python sketch, but I'm playing

1516
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: my forty minutes.

1517
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: Damn it.

1518
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: I thought I'm gonna keep going. He got Anthony Edwards.

1519
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: Anytime he's asked a question. The man has no filter.

1520
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 3: He's got zero filter.

1521
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: He's got zero filter, which is good and bad for

1522
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: the league because eventually he's gonna say something to get

1523
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: himself in trouble.

1524
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: It's just the law of averages, like all of us.

1525
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 4: That's kind of the throwback phill of him is that

1526
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 4: he's unapologetic.

1527
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 3: You know, you hope he doesn't go over the line.

1528
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 4: Does What you're referring to is like, you know, dude,

1529
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 4: don't don't don't go over the line.

1530
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 2: There just might be that one point where you get

1531
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: too candid about a team's performance and someone in the

1532
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: locker room, coach or player, takes it the wrong way

1533
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: or interprets, Oh, he was calling me out without calling

1534
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 2: me out, and now all of a sudden, we've got,

1535
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of drama in the in

1536
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 2: the background. That's all I'm saying. It's like, you know

1537
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 2: that sometimes can lend itself to that. But so long

1538
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: as he's saying, hey, this is on me, Yeah, all's good.

1539
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what we hope.

1540
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 4: But I think I think more so you're you're saying,

1541
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 4: and you know, much bigger trouble than we're not talking

1542
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 4: basketball truckle.

1543
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 3: What you're saying.

1544
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm certainly not implying that.

1545
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 3: No, no, You're you're saying you worry that he gets

1546
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 3: in basketball trouble.

1547
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: To where it just because look, you never know what's

1548
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: going to happen. I mean like nowadays, no matter what

1549
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: you say, you're going to find some fraction of people

1550
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 2: that deciding that you should be uh sent away. I

1551
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: mean that, you know, to the to the penalty box

1552
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 2: of nothing else. That's the nature of the business.

1553
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but you're I think the excitement with him

1554
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 4: you're bringing up is that he's unapologetic. Hey, I'm the

1555
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 4: best player on the floor. You got to come and

1556
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 4: beat me. The trash talk is there. You know, you're

1557
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 4: not as good as I like give me he's saying,

1558
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 4: he's saying all these things. He's just giving it. He's

1559
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 4: giving it to you, and he's backing it up, and

1560
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 4: he's exciting to watch, and you know it's it's that's

1561
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 4: where the Jordan has feel is because when we talk

1562
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 4: about Jordan, the big part of Jordan's legacy, a big

1563
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 4: part of Kobe's legacy was a trash talk. It was

1564
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 4: that you cannot see me, You're not better than me.

1565
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 4: And that's what we're saying from Anthony Edwards. So as

1566
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 4: long as he backs it up, man, we are excited.

1567
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 4: But yeah, you gotta admit, you know, if you're if

1568
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 4: you're Tim's pr man, every time that he steps up

1569
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 4: to the podium, you're nervous he's gonna say anything. But

1570
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 4: I think the sports community has been falling in love

1571
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 4: with them.

1572
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 3: Man.

1573
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you see the highlight video reels I mean,

1574
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: certainly they're all year long, averaging nearly twenty six points

1575
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 2: a game. All of that stuff that rolls through, you

1576
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: got another team that becomes relevant, which again is good

1577
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 2: because it allowed us a bunch of throwbacks to the

1578
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: Garnett and Marbury years, right, and what they were doing.

1579
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: Some of the old ads they used to do. Remember

1580
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: the old ESPN the magazine. Go and look that up

1581
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: on your own time, folks. The Google machine will help

1582
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: you along the way. But it's the kind of thing

1583
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: that you know, you're always looking for more stars, and

1584
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: as you've talked about, and we've talked about quite a bit,

1585
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 2: the number of stars that are hitting. We age ourselves, right,

1586
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: talking going back to Ilo joking about hair and me

1587
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: talking about you know, sitting in the barber chair yesterday

1588
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: and having the sad moments with intertwined with Abba is

1589
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: the reality that we age ourselves, but we don't necessarily

1590
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: age the guys we're watching and then, except when it

1591
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 2: becomes the leading factor, right, Tom Brady was the forty

1592
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: five year old quarterback, forty five year old Tom Brady,

1593
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 2: thirty nine year old Lebron James, when it becomes the

1594
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 2: defining factor. But that's kind of where we're hitting with

1595
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 2: Steph and Durant and all these guys where we need

1596
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: the new blood. And if Anthony Edwards is the guy

1597
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: that leads that next parade and he's going to do

1598
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: that at the MIC, I'm.

1599
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: All for it.

1600
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 4: No, hey, listen, I think is good for the game.

1601
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 4: He's exciting, he's fun and you know what he's opinionated.

1602
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 2: No, he's leaving no stone unturned at the Ryan Hollins

1603
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 2: where you find I may find me over at Swollen Dome.

1604
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 2: Our three coming up more NBA and WNBA talk great eggs.

1605
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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us on a beautiful Sunday morning.

1611
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: So much going on in the sporting universe. We've already

1612
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: got some F one racing on PGA Championship getting going

1613
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 2: this morning.

1614
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: We've got the English.

1615
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: Premier League, full day of Major League Baseball, and yes

1616
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 2: we have two count them two. Game seven's in your

1617
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 2: NBA Mike Harman alongside Ryan Allins, honor to be with you. Ryan,

1618
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 2: Hour one went through quickly and right now you're drafting

1619
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 2: a memo to the NBA Players Association to say you

1620
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 2: need to reduce that game and figure out how to

1621
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 2: get other Do you get a doctor's note? Is that

1622
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: what we're talking about for those that missed the end

1623
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 2: of last hour, talking about the sixty five game threshold

1624
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: and whether there may be the unintended consequences of guys

1625
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: forcing themselves back onto a court, thereby maybe creating bigger

1626
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: injury problems forcing them to miss more time and the

1627
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 2: playoffs as we've seen, Like, how do we go through

1628
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: you get a doctor's note where you actually have to

1629
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: have a procedure, Like we got to carve this out

1630
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: if we're gonna do this and go back to the union.

1631
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 4: I mean we do like we normally do. We pay

1632
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 4: people a lot of money.

1633
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 10: And find some consultants and then well it was literally

1634
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 10: said like rest day, Like what's wrong with him?

1635
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

1636
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 3: Rest day? He's tired? What?

1637
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 4: Like they're even young players? Okay, there were young guys.

1638
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: I joined.

1639
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 3: What's going on you're gonna play tomorrow now rest day.

1640
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 4: What there's no way, like these things got completely out

1641
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,839
Speaker 4: of hand. Now, how you differentiate that is to your conscience,

1642
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 4: That is to the professionals. But I tell you one thing,

1643
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 4: you know, it's gonna have to be evaluated.

1644
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 3: But hey, Joel Embiid, we saw his.

1645
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 4: Knee, his knee giving out in the middle of games.

1646
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 3: Okay, that wasn't good to see.

1647
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 2: But that's the thing Ryan, Right, we start going back

1648
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: to the old hurt versus injured kind of discussion on things, right,

1649
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: because we've had that multiple times this series went with Luca, right,

1650
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: I mean during the series against the thunder all right,

1651
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: how injured is he?

1652
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: How broken down?

1653
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 2: How much is he playing rope a dope to lull

1654
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 2: you to sleep and then come back and hit either

1655
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 2: a big shot in your face?

1656
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: What was it?

1657
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: Earlier this week there was a sequence where he's limping

1658
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: and kind of moving slowly back in front and then

1659
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: he does this great step back three.

1660
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, now he's just playing possum.

1661
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: So I think that's the other part is like you

1662
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 2: gotta you know, going back to playing your conscience. You know,

1663
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 2: young or old, it's still becomes that same thing. You know,

1664
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: how sick am I am? I going to help her

1665
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: out the house today? Am I going to feign that

1666
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 2: I got a bit of a tummy ache? Everybody's doing

1667
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: it wherever you are, across American, across the globe, because.

1668
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 1: We are global on the iHeart Radio app.

1669
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 2: You know, Brian that you know, folks are deciding, you know,

1670
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 2: how much are they going to involve themselves versus maybe

1671
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 2: tapping out of something they don't want to do.

1672
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 4: No, you're absolutely right, man, But it's a you know,

1673
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 4: it's it's a real thing. It's a real thing, and

1674
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 4: I'm sure, hey, the league is going to fine tune it.

1675
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 4: It's never going to be absolutely perfect, but it is

1676
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 4: something to look at, man, and it is a you know,

1677
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 4: there definitely is a cause for concern with it, with

1678
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 4: guys just missing games, not playing, not being out there, man.

1679
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 4: And you want to see the league's best competition. You

1680
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 4: want to see you know, the best out there. And

1681
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 4: also I didn't think it was good, you know, seeing

1682
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 4: Joelle being hurt and trying to perform her It wasn't

1683
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 4: a good look. So think again, these things will be

1684
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 4: fine tuned and they're gonna find a way to figure

1685
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 4: themselves out.

1686
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk about that on a little different scale. Right,

1687
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 2: you're on the league, You're you're working with the Houston Rockets,

1688
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 2: a lot of youth and guys rising up there. Another

1689
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: team when we talk about the Western Conference, like, hey,

1690
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 2: you know, there's there's gonna be nobody left behind in

1691
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: all of this, Right, it's just gonna be a battle

1692
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 2: for those ten slots we look at.

1693
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,560
Speaker 1: Eventually the Victor Weman.

1694
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: Yama thing more talent around him and San Antonio they'll

1695
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: actually add wins next year in theory, not just another

1696
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: great player, but the number of injuries that we had.

1697
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 2: Is is there anything that we could put a finger

1698
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: on to the number of guys that got hurt and

1699
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 2: missed time, Like we talked about all all defensive teams,

1700
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: all NBA whatever else. I mean, it's like the end

1701
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: of a scroll when you're, you know, watching cable television

1702
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: and everybody's done this where you're watching a movie and

1703
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: you know it's been compressed for time a little bit,

1704
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,560
Speaker 2: so they scroll the credits really fast, so it's a

1705
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: lot of names going by really fast. So they could

1706
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 2: start the other movie, right, it does the picture and

1707
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 2: picture thing to start the credits for the next one.

1708
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: That's what we had with the number of guys that

1709
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: got hurt in the NBA this year. Well, what was

1710
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 2: at star power everywhere? What do you pin it to?

1711
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

1712
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 4: For one thing, the league was more competitive than ever

1713
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,759
Speaker 4: down the stretch with the play in, so you weren't

1714
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 4: just guaranteed the age spot of the NBA. And that's

1715
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 4: a large reason why a lot of guys were injured.

1716
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: You know, those taxing minutes down the stretch as opposed

1717
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: to tapping.

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and these were well not just that, these were

1719
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 4: competitive games, like teams were literally fighting, okay to be

1720
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 4: in those spots, and that that was a big issue.

1721
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 4: Then on top of that, you can say, you know,

1722
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 4: the league is just better. Man in a lot of

1723
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 4: our superstars have gotten older, and with them getting older,

1724
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 4: man competing against these young guys, it was hard to

1725
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,839
Speaker 4: keep up. So again, as you noted with the Houston Rockets,

1726
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 4: my Rockets, it's nice to be younger as the league

1727
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 4: moves forward. Okay, look around, there's no Kevin Durant in

1728
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 4: the playoffs right now, There's no Lebron James, There's no,

1729
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 4: Steph Curry. All of these greats are are are fading off,

1730
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 4: you know, or they're gonna have to get into situations

1731
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 4: where they need help. And I mean, man, there is

1732
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 4: just a number of teams missing. And the one thing

1733
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 4: about the Rockets, they did a great job doing what

1734
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 4: they were healthy this year, you know, and those big moments,

1735
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 4: you know, the Rockets were healthy. And that's one thing

1736
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 4: about being young is that you have the ability to

1737
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 4: get out there and participate.

1738
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 3: So moving forward, the future.

1739
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,839
Speaker 4: Is bite and you're gonna want those the young talent.

1740
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 3: Man.

1741
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 4: That's starting to show through because as we're saying, a

1742
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 4: lot of injuries, I mean, we can go down. I

1743
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 4: mean there's a heavy, heavy list of stars missing, playoff time,

1744
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 4: stars missing in moments where you again, you need them most.

1745
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 2: We're talking about that a lot as related to one

1746
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 2: of the seven's that we'll get later on today, we've

1747
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: got twelve thirty Pacific, three thirty Eastern time, Indiana and

1748
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 2: New York getting after it. Josh Hart the abdominal strain.

1749
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 2: We watched him pull up in game six and he

1750
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 2: was holding his stomach and looking for that one piece

1751
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 2: of video.

1752
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: To try to say exactly what happened? Right?

1753
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: Did he get hit? Did he take an elbow as

1754
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: we'd seen you know, other players missing time, Right, Jared

1755
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: Allen took that shot to the ribs and ended up

1756
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: missing multiple games for Cleveland in their series instead abdominal strain. Right,

1757
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 2: all the work he's done on the boards, he'll try

1758
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: to give it a go. But for New York, the

1759
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: other injury of note that has, you know, derailed them

1760
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of shortening that rotation Ogian

1761
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 2: Andobi and we know what his impact was after coming

1762
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: over to the Knicks this season. What a huge boost

1763
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 2: that would be just to get him out in the.

1764
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: Warm up line.

1765
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and for this series, for the New York game today, Man,

1766
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 4: these injuries are going to be huge. And I think

1767
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 4: it's just tough because you know, if you like basketball,

1768
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 4: you fell in love with this New York Knicks team.

1769
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 4: They play hard, they're tough, they play for the next man. Uh.

1770
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 4: He got great storylines all over the place. You know,

1771
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 4: you you got you got three teammates who won the

1772
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 4: college national championship on the same team playing for the Knicks.

1773
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1774
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 4: And then Jalen Brunson's dad is on the staff. So

1775
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 4: you can't help for pull for that this underdog story.

1776
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 4: But unfortunately, these injuries just may be too much. And

1777
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, that's what

1778
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 4: we're going to see here, uh for the for the

1779
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 4: Knicks three and.

1780
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: A half point favorites at home Twoe seven and a

1781
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: half the over under on this one.

1782
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: And that's the question, how many times can.

1783
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 2: The the short staff Knicks answer the bell? Well will

1784
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 2: answer that question in just a couple of minutes. I

1785
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 2: want to keep it on the injury front, right because

1786
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 2: we talk about heart, we talk about on a no,

1787
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: we talk about all the guys that aren't available for

1788
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: the Knicks, and it's a laundry list of guys through

1789
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 2: the year. And that's where you know, you get in

1790
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 2: and Thibodeau gets his new deal and you celebrate it

1791
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 2: and look, I love the style, but I recognize, you know,

1792
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 2: with ninety style basketball comes the laundry list of injuries

1793
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 2: that we've talked about going back to when Thibodeau was

1794
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: coaching the Bulls or the Tea Wolves. You know, you

1795
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: picket where towards the end of the year, you're just

1796
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 2: wondering will they have enough to crawl to the finish

1797
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 2: line and how much of that is while you build

1798
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 2: a culture that is all about heart. No pun intended

1799
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 2: with Josh Hart, but a guy who's rebounding. I've joked

1800
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 2: all week, I want to get the masterclass, right. I

1801
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 2: can learn drumming from Ringo and proper positioning and rebounding

1802
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: despite my size from Josh Hart, Right, those kind of things.

1803
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 2: I want to learn skills that one's not really practical,

1804
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,440
Speaker 2: but I think we could extrapolate, you know, the angles

1805
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 2: and upper tunities and being able to read a room

1806
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 2: into other venues.

1807
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 1: But that's for me and him to decide in a

1808
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: future zoom call.

1809
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 2: But to the point with Tibodeau, right, often criticized for

1810
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 2: the style because of injuries, but being praised for it.

1811
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: It's kind of that right now because of the success

1812
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 2: of these knicks. So it's kind of that trying to

1813
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 2: figure out in the end, where does the larger weight

1814
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 2: fall on the scale.

1815
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 4: It's man, this is Tibbs has brought New York basketball

1816
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 4: to a place that they haven't been in a very

1817
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 4: very long time.

1818
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: Twenty five years. Man, we're talking about.

1819
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 4: Very long time. So there should be nobody frowning or

1820
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 4: turning up their nose at what Tibbs has done this year. Okay,

1821
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 4: there's no there should be no questions there. But yeah,

1822
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 4: of course it's a thing, dude. Your best players are

1823
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 4: not able to participate in their dropping like flies at

1824
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 4: this point. And we know it's because of the heavy minutes.

1825
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 4: We know Og couldn't play the heavy minutes. We know

1826
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 4: Josh Hart is just I mean, he's selling out in

1827
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 4: his minutes. He's doing he's doing everything he can. It's

1828
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 4: not like he's he's halfway playing them, man, He's he's

1829
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,799
Speaker 4: literally going going at it. Man. And you know Josh Hart,

1830
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 4: you said he's got a lot of heart unintended, okay,

1831
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 4: and you know for him to be missing, you know

1832
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:20,640
Speaker 4: that it's something serious. So I'm torn between two and

1833
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 4: I think that's New York's in a good place and

1834
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 4: I think this is a fun run. I think you

1835
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 4: got to give the respect to to Timms. But absolutely

1836
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 4: those guys need rest, there's no question about that.

1837
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about game seven's coming up here. We've

1838
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: got Denver, Minnesota a little bit later. Anthony Edwards being

1839
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 2: known for his honesty and candor in post game interviews

1840
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: as much as anything else. We'll talk about Youth Served

1841
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 2: Yo Kitchen Company, and more on Nicks Pacers as we continue.

1842
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins, ten years in the league at the

1843
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 2: Rollins Ryan Hollins is where you find him on Twitter,

1844
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:57,479
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1845
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1846
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1847
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1848
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1849
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1850
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1851
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1854
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1855
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1856
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1857
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1858
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1859
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Speaker 2: it's the free gift that keeps on going, right Ryan,

1860
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 2: As we get towards Father's Day, maybe maybe you're delinking

1861
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 2: a week on Mother's Day, you know, pop.

1862
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Speaker 1: A card in right out the UURL.

1863
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 2: And just say here you go, Mom, Grandma, Auntie, whoever.

1864
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 2: It's a gift that keeps on giving. So get that

1865
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 2: early Father's Day gift out as well. I'm trying to

1866
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 2: get a line of greeting cards together that include all

1867
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 2: the links to everything that we're doing here.

1868
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: You know, got to.

1869
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 2: Keep expanding, aggressive expansion, as Keith Ledgers Joker said so

1870
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 2: long ago.

1871
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back into these games seven.

1872
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 2: We're talking a little bit of Pacers Knicks and what

1873
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 2: started out as a great series. I mean, look, we're

1874
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: getting a game seven, right, so by definition great series, right,

1875
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:29,440
Speaker 2: But the last three games have been anything but Pacers

1876
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 2: blowout in Game four, Knicks blowout Game five, and then

1877
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 2: the Pacers one sixteen one oh three. But anybody that

1878
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: watched that, that was not a one to sixteen one

1879
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 2: oh three game. It did not feel like the Knicks

1880
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 2: were anywhere near that game. So now we get to

1881
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 2: a game seven, heart injured again, the heart and soul

1882
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 2: he and Brunson of what they've done. Devincenzo is got

1883
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 2: a little bit of that tough guy in him, willing

1884
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 2: to take on all comers. And maybe you get on

1885
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 2: Anobi back that would be just a huge boost for

1886
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: them amongst all those classic knicks that will be on

1887
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,839
Speaker 2: the sidelines again, which is fun. So he's spot the knicks.

1888
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 2: Which which era are these guys from? And the other

1889
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: day I mentioned this and and Ryan, I mean, you're

1890
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: a guy that look you're seven feet tall. So the

1891
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 2: suits and everything, I mean, you've got to go custom made,

1892
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 2: custom paid, custom fitted right all the way through. And

1893
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 2: anytime I see Clyde Frasier when he's sitting there again

1894
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: when they were getting buried the other night, and he

1895
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 2: had that suit on right, a little bit of sparkle,

1896
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: always with the pizazz, and he you know, he's sitting

1897
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 2: there and the knees are up and he had his

1898
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 2: hands folded like he was Montgomery Burns. I want a

1899
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 2: camera on him because I know some stuff's about to

1900
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 2: go down.

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01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong.

1902
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 2: Don't you get that feel that whenever Clyde's around, that

1903
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 2: that something could go sideways a little bit, that he's

1904
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:56,719
Speaker 2: you know, working up a master plan.

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01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 4: Well you're yeah, I mean you're literally looking at a

1906
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 4: legendary man. And I mean, look, if I could get

1907
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 4: my fits to look half as good as Clyde Frazier

1908
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 4: on AIRBN.

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01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 3: Okay, listen, that's the.

1910
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 2: Family feel about you embracing the sparkle, because that's just it.

1911
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: You got to get a little bit bit be dazzled.

1912
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 2: Whether someone do that, does that in the house with

1913
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 2: a one of those little machines, or whether you go

1914
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 2: and pay, you know, to have someone do that local.

1915
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 4: I mean, this is is like legendary stuff that we're

1916
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 4: talking about here.

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01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: Well, we're trying to take it next level you and I.

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01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you literally have to at this point, mano.

1919
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: Man, no, that's it right, look good, play good, feel.

1920
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 2: Good, all of those things kind of wrap up it,

1921
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 2: you know, and you can attribute that to everybody that's

1922
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 2: set it for Ricky Henderson, Deon Sanders on down Now

1923
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 2: when we look at this Nick's squad, I mean, Jalen

1924
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 2: Bronson has been the story for this squad and deservedly so. Right,

1925
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 2: a guy that, as we talked about a little bit

1926
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 2: last week, I think I've heard more apologies in our

1927
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 2: law larger media severear for those doubting the contract that

1928
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: the Knicks signed him to remember, because as you mentioned,

1929
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: his dad on the staff, and so I was like, ah,

1930
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 2: was there you know, ever a chance for the Mavericks

1931
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah to Matchwell, he goes to New

1932
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 2: York and now you're looking at a Nick squad that's

1933
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: relevant for the first time in twenty five years. Really

1934
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 2: frightening to think about that, that for twenty five years

1935
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 2: it's been Taylor Swift, Billy Joel, concerts, the circus, whatever

1936
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 2: else has come through the Rangers. But now obviously actually

1937
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 2: having the Knicks be relevant once again.

1938
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, make no mistake, whether you love him

1939
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 4: or hate him, much like the Lakers, it's much better

1940
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 4: for basketball what the Knicks and Lakers are good, Okay,

1941
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,480
Speaker 4: just brings more money to the sport, brings more exposure,

1942
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 4: and just for them to be in the mix. But

1943
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 4: it's been I mean it's been so long, literally, it's

1944
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 4: been so long the for the Knicks that I think

1945
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,440
Speaker 4: at this point, even if you're at Nick, like everybody's

1946
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 4: like pulling for him because it's it's been a o'b

1947
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 4: seen amount of time. But again, it just a team

1948
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 4: of underdogs, man, It's just a team that you can

1949
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 4: pull for. And I tell you one thing, the Garden

1950
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 4: you know, I'll say, no question, the best place that

1951
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 4: it's the mecca basketball, and I'm an LA guy.

1952
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 3: It is.

1953
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 4: It is a different environment there in the garden. There's

1954
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 4: you can just feel the history, the lighting, everything is different.

1955
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 4: The celebrities are there. It's a show. So now you

1956
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 4: bring the playoffs back and it's it's a real thing.

1957
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of cool the fact that the last

1958
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 2: time they won was when Phil Jackson was actually a player,

1959
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 2: still throwing those bony elbows in the in the low post, folks,

1960
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 2: if you you only know Phil Jackson the coach, go

1961
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 2: back and find some cool video. It was a badass

1962
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 2: and he loved you to get into it as well.

1963
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 2: But when we look at at the Knicks and just

1964
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 2: go through the laundry list of guys that are out,

1965
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just in azing pile, right when you

1966
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 2: look at Robinson and Randall Bydanovich and go on down

1967
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 2: the line on to know we having missed the first

1968
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 2: run of this series, that we get this Game seven

1969
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 2: set up and for Indiana, I don't know what team

1970
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 2: I'm getting and the old Tom Hanks life's like a

1971
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 2: box of chocolates and allays all finding good but other

1972
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 2: than Pascal Siakam on a night to night basis, I

1973
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 2: don't know who else is showing up.

1974
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,560
Speaker 1: That's a dangerous part for Rick Carlisle.

1975
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 3: No, well, here's the thing.

1976
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 4: The Pacers play by with their speed, their pace as

1977
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 4: a team, and they're they're gonna be in a great

1978
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 4: place to win this series. Why because they are going

1979
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 4: to wear down the Knicks. And that's what's been going

1980
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 4: on here. The Knicks can't keep up this pace of

1981
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 4: play and they're getting they're knocked off, they're a kidding injured.

1982
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 4: They're having to work so hard to be in a

1983
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 4: position to succeed. So that's the X factor right here

1984
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 4: in the series is just the Knicks are not healthy enough.

1985
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about depth, getting a great bench play. McConnell

1986
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 2: and former Nick Obi Toppin has been a bit of

1987
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 2: a force off the bench, especially down in the low

1988
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 2: post working against Heart and Evincenzo.

1989
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that flows.

1990
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,640
Speaker 2: Haliburton's a guy that you know has the spotlight on

1991
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 2: him obviously the team USA when Brunson's.

1992
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 1: Left off and all of that.

1993
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 2: So those are the fun comparisons that we get to

1994
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 2: make along the way. I'm just I'm happy and sad

1995
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 2: at the same part because those that are unaware. My

1996
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 2: weekday partner, Jason Smith seven to eleven Pacific time. You

1997
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 2: know a huge Knicks fan. There's a promo running where

1998
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 2: I'm making a cogin argument about something and he just

1999
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 2: starts screaming like a lunatic because of a shot made.

2000
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 2: So I'm sad not to be sitting next to him

2001
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 2: for this one, Ryan, but also kind of happy to

2002
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 2: not be sitting next to him for this one later today.

2003
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 4: You mean he didn't fly in for a Knicks game seven.

2004
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 4: Isn't this like like you may never see it again

2005
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 4: in your adult lifetime, like something.

2006
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: You just sho we should have done and go fund me. Yeah,

2007
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 1: it is it out there?

2008
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think anybody would have been.

2009
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: Angry if he took off and hear him out there

2010
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: Frank the Tank.

2011
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, this is kind of like if you're a

2012
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 4: Nick fan, you kind of have to be there, right, No, well,

2013
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 4: you may never see there's some people keep in mind there,

2014
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,520
Speaker 4: but there's some people hadn't seen it in their lifetime.

2015
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 1: No, but that's just it, right.

2016
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 2: We go back to ninety nine, ninety four before that

2017
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 2: when they were you know, part of the subplot of

2018
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 2: the OJ Chase. Those are the last two times that

2019
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 2: this team's been relevant, and they've had some good starts,

2020
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 2: but again owing to you got to finish the eighty

2021
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 2: two plus to make some runs and while we haven't

2022
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: seen that for a long time. To your point, yeah,

2023
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 2: it's more fun when they're involved, right, stars are out,

2024
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 2: celebrities get there and you get a little bit of

2025
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 2: the history lessons and that's what you always love about

2026
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 2: some this that you can grab the footage back in

2027
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 2: the day, and certainly this series at times, and again

2028
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 2: the first three games, I think more so than the

2029
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 2: last three Ryan where we had that physicality, so you

2030
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: could really start promoting the basketball that you had when

2031
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 2: John Starks, Charles Oakley who still can't get into the garden,

2032
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing and those guys were roaming the court because

2033
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 2: you had those battles beyond the Reggie Miller eight point barrage,

2034
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 2: just some of those classic battles with the Davises against

2035
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 2: the front line of the Knicks. I mean that was

2036
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 2: when you know, a different age of basketball, and somehow

2037
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:39,799
Speaker 2: those guys still played all their games.

2038
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 4: It'll be that well, also keep in mind, hell, see

2039
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 4: what I did there, I was giving you love because

2040
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 4: I mean I said, I mean it was your time.

2041
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 4: Here's the thing too, that the challenge with that to

2042
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 4: to my old heads, to my veterans, the pace of

2043
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 4: play in today's basketball is so much faster than what

2044
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 4: they played at So when they talk about well we

2045
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 4: played every yeah, you walked up the ball at court

2046
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 4: and played in the eighties. Okay, so the conditioning and

2047
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 4: the chance of injury is much much different because these

2048
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 4: guys are playing a lot more basketball. There's a lot

2049
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 4: more possessions where they're in pick and roll, where they're

2050
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 4: fighting through pick and rolls, where they're making these plays.

2051
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 3: So this is this is a different level.

2052
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 4: So not to take away from what they did, but

2053
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 4: it's a it's a different level of basketball. So there's

2054
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 4: a level where they do need they do need rest.

2055
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 4: We're not going to challenge that. That's why I said, hey,

2056
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 4: give them a number, hew, you got you got what five,

2057
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 4: let's say ten rest days, ten rest days whatever. We're

2058
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 4: not going to count injuries. Okay, well monitor injuries, but

2059
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 4: we're not going to count them. You know, we'll call

2060
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 4: them in a question, which is fair. But you know,

2061
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 4: these guys having the ball in their hand for eighty

2062
01:42:58,120 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 4: two games at is tough.

2063
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 3: That it's different when you're doing it at a one

2064
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 3: hundred and.

2065
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 4: Twenty point pace than doing it at an eighty point

2066
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 4: pace where you walk the ball up the court.

2067
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 2: So I need I need old school coaches to come

2068
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,600
Speaker 2: back in and slow this down, take you out of

2069
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 2: your pace. Let's go, let's go back to the low posts,

2070
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 2: rid out those shot clocks.

2071
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 3: Let's go. Oh good dude.

2072
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 2: Now you hate me at a whole other level. He's

2073
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins on Mike R Mean, we're here. It's Fox

2074
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. We'll clip to the other side.

2075
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 2: We've got Denver Minnesota coming up later on tonight.

2076
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 1: But first it's Isaac Lowencrod.

2077
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 2: He's got what's trending in US courting university fellas.

2078
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 8: We have a brand new eyewitness account of the circumstances

2079
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 8: that led to Scottie Scheffler's arrest on Friday morning. That

2080
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 8: coming up to seconds from now. First of all, in

2081
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 8: Game six of the NBA's Western Conference semi Finals on

2082
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 8: Saturday night, the Dallas Mavericks defeated at Oklahoma City one

2083
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 8: seventeen to one sixteen to win the series four games

2084
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 8: to two in advance to the Western Conference Finals. After

2085
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 8: three rounds of the p GA Championship, Colin Morikawa and

2086
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:06,680
Speaker 8: Xander Schaffler tied for the lead at fifteen under par overall.

2087
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 8: The aforementioned Scotti Scheffler now eight shots back at seven

2088
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,600
Speaker 8: under after two over seventy three on Saturday. Now, this

2089
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 8: new eyewitness account comes from ESPN commentator Bob was Shuzen,

2090
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 8: who gave his account to golf dot Com. This morning,

2091
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 8: Scheffler's vehicle pulled up to the left side of a

2092
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 8: vehicle that.

2093
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 1: Was Shoesen was in.

2094
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 8: Was Shoesen said, the officer initially kind of jumped in

2095
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 8: front of Scheffler's vehicle with was Shuzen, describing the officer's

2096
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 8: demeanor as quote, he was pretty you know, enthusiastic, let's say,

2097
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 8: unquote with Shuzen said, the officer beamed his flashlight up

2098
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,639
Speaker 8: and down Scheffler's car and yelled at him with words

2099
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 8: to the effect of whoa, WHOA, WHOA who are you?

2100
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 8: Where are you going? Get back in line? You're not

2101
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 8: allowed to come through here. Was Shoesin added quote when

2102
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,839
Speaker 8: Scheffler drove past him. The cop got very angry pursuing

2103
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 8: the car. My impression was he was kind of running

2104
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 8: alongside chasing the car, and maybe he tripped and fell.

2105
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 8: I mean there was kind of an outcropping or median,

2106
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 8: you know, by the front gate. And keep in mind

2107
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 8: it was raining, it was six o'clock in the morning,

2108
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,640
Speaker 8: it was dark. I could see him stumble, but I

2109
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 8: did not have a very clear view of exactly how

2110
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:26,520
Speaker 8: you want to categorize his contact with the car unquote.

2111
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 8: So that a new account of the incident that led

2112
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 8: to Scheffler's arrest on Friday.

2113
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, I was really kind of nervous

2114
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: that you were.

2115
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 2: You had some movie thing cued up there eye load

2116
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 2: the way you set that up, a new eyewitness account like,

2117
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 2: oh happy Gilmour two previews, what do we got?

2118
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 8: Well, the guys at TMZ are still working on it,

2119
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:48,719
Speaker 8: so maybe there might be some video.

2120
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Ilo at Isaac Lowen Krown following their part

2121
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,639
Speaker 2: of the Angel City FC broadcasting team and getting ready

2122
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 2: for relentless enthusiasm as I'm attacking the day as a

2123
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 2: member of the Chargers broadcast team as well. Mike Garman

2124
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 2: alongside Ryan Hollins with you as well. How about that

2125
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 2: crazy kind of situation that flowed out this week, Ryan,

2126
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you paid attention to some

2127
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 2: of the accounts and the reporting about the Scheffler incident,

2128
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 2: but certainly golf getting a little bit of run here

2129
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 2: over the last couple of days, kind of.

2130
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: Breaking through with one of the majors playing out.

2131
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:32,440
Speaker 4: Well, here's the big thing, I thought, He responded, excellent.

2132
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 4: I think what's tough is because we can't gloss over

2133
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 4: somebody died, somebody lost their life, so there was a

2134
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 4: huge sense of urgency at the end of the day

2135
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 4: to to make sure that nobody else got across. Okay,

2136
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 4: So we cannot, we cannot and will not gloss over that,

2137
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 4: and hopefully both sides can kind of come to a

2138
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 4: measure and be okay, and you know, can you say

2139
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 4: it was an extreme I hope they can brush it

2140
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 4: off and you know, no harm, no foul. I didn't

2141
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 4: think he should have even been driving his own car.

2142
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 1: That's a whole other process, right.

2143
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you are a megastar, for instance, when I

2144
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 4: played with the Clippers, Chris Paul, okay, megastar Chris Paul

2145
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 4: didn't drive himself to the games. He had a security

2146
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 4: drive himself. So if there is something that happened, if

2147
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 4: there is a question of anything, his security step right

2148
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 4: in and hey, please let mister Paul through. What's the procedure. Hey,

2149
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 4: we played games over at Staples Center. When we will

2150
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 4: go in, guess what. There are certain days where you know,

2151
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 4: parking would be tough, there'd be a lot of traffic. Hey,

2152
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 4: there may even be a rally going on towards the

2153
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 4: arena or downtown LA or wherever you may be playing. Hey,

2154
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 4: be careful, there's a rally going on. Be careful. There's this, this,

2155
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 4: and this happening. So you know what, you go into

2156
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,839
Speaker 4: those situations and you'd be a whole lot more careful,

2157
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 4: or you'd know, or you kind of be escorted a

2158
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,799
Speaker 4: certain way. So my question is why aren't these golfers

2159
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 4: being taken care of it, especially someone of the stature,

2160
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 4: the best golf for the tournament, you know, So those

2161
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 4: things need to be address and fixed and hopefully no harm,

2162
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:05,639
Speaker 4: no foul.

2163
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 3: But it's tough.

2164
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 4: He got booked and sent in and it seemed like

2165
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 4: a lot and I don't want to say it was

2166
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 4: extreme because I wasn't there, I hadn't seen the video.

2167
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 4: I'm no expert, and I don't know. I just hope

2168
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,799
Speaker 4: that both sides can come to a resolve.

2169
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that the was shoes in account

2170
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 2: does kind of fly in the face of what the

2171
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 2: lawyer was contending, et cetera, and that you know he

2172
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 2: was following the direction of an officer, because this says

2173
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 2: flat out guy trying to ascertain what's going on. And

2174
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 2: as to your point and what I made when we

2175
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 2: were talking about this, Jason and I quite a bit

2176
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:45,679
Speaker 2: like he got a heighten everything. It was a guy

2177
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 2: that was helping to work security for the event that

2178
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 2: was killed, and that's the aftermath of it, is the

2179
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 2: logjam getting in and I know other golfers got in

2180
01:48:55,160 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 2: without incident. Well, it looks like he disobeyed and dismissed

2181
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 2: whatever this officer was, whether he was security or a

2182
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 2: police officer, because people were trying to make that distinction

2183
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,640
Speaker 2: either way, it's someone in authority that has, you know,

2184
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 2: your access to the facility. And you know, we then

2185
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 2: had fun with the fact that the police report had

2186
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 2: to enumerate that the pants were worth eighty dollars and

2187
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 2: were inreparably damaged in the process.

2188
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: So there you go. We always have to find a

2189
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 1: little bit of levity on the back end of it.

2190
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 2: But to your point, I hope combra heads prevail, they

2191
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 2: figure out the the chargers and whatever else. Seems like

2192
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 2: everybody's going all right. I know the officer had to

2193
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 2: go to the hospital and get checked out for the

2194
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 2: abrasions at all, and you know, again, hopefully they come

2195
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:50,839
Speaker 2: to an amical, amicable resolution and traditions like guys driving

2196
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 2: themselves up maybe go away, maybe go away. You had

2197
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 2: other golfers who walked it and realizing that there was

2198
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 2: the traffic scenario. We saw several other Zalatorus and others

2199
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 2: that walk the two miles or whatever they were from

2200
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 2: their hotel to.

2201
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 1: Get up there. All right, enough of that.

2202
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:16,599
Speaker 2: Back to the NBA as we flow through, Ryan t Wolves, young, plucky, tall,

2203
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 2: deep roster Yo get you at home in a game seven.

2204
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 4: I like the Nuggets. I like the Nuggets. It's experience.

2205
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 4: Obviously a lot of this is going to be about

2206
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray. He's the guy who can hit big shots.

2207
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 4: He's shown up and Mike I don't know how you

2208
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:40,640
Speaker 4: feel about this, he plays well, all's forgotten about the

2209
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:42,799
Speaker 4: other games. That's all that matters is at game seven.

2210
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 4: What did you do in this game seven? In this moment?

2211
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 4: And I think for the Nuggets the big key for

2212
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 4: them they've got to be great defensively.

2213
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 3: They got to win on this end.

2214
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 4: They got to throw bodies at yo kids. They've got

2215
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 4: to frustrate him. They have to get out and transition.

2216
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 4: They got to speed this game up. But I don't

2217
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:02,919
Speaker 4: think they can rely on the offensive execution.

2218
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:03,679
Speaker 3: It won't be there.

2219
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 4: But defensively is where they're going to have to win

2220
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 4: this game. But for Jamal Murray, I think you got

2221
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 4: to harass him and you got to harass Yokis. You

2222
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 4: can't let those two be a factor. And then you

2223
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 4: can't give up any easy buckets. You know, you can't

2224
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 4: give up the transition Aaron Gordon slam dungs or you know,

2225
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 4: the open porter junior threes. Those are the ones that

2226
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 4: hurt you in a game like this because Denver truly

2227
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 4: plays as a team in a unit, and they'll thrive

2228
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 4: off those games.

2229
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at Jamal Murray just ten points in

2230
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 2: that blowout loss, but he was four of eighteen. He

2231
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 2: was three of eighteen going back to game two, so

2232
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 2: you've certainly had some bad shooting nights from him. And

2233
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 2: look the aggressiveness and physicality with which Minnesota has attacked

2234
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 2: both he and go back to the first two games

2235
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,640
Speaker 2: of the series. How difficult it was for Jokic to

2236
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 2: find space not only for his own shot, but to

2237
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 2: create as he does so well. So I'm curious to

2238
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 2: see what the seven footers see. I'm showing all the

2239
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 2: love for the opinionated seven footers out there, my guy

2240
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, But for Jamal Murray, how bad do you

2241
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:12,839
Speaker 2: think the elbow really is? Versus a became a talking

2242
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 2: point after a four for eighteen, man, But that's always

2243
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 2: the hard thing for me.

2244
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 4: At this point in the year. It's it's bad, man.

2245
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 4: These guys are banged up. Jamal Murray's been banged up.

2246
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 4: You know, he's fighting through He really if you think back,

2247
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 4: it was is that why the tale was short? Yeah,

2248
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 4: that's what he bake the amble the best game I

2249
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:36,639
Speaker 4: got to do with the talent. I'm just was shooting,

2250
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 4: but he was questionable. He had to walk in and

2251
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 4: he was told by the medical staff you're not playing, Jamal,

2252
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 4: and against the Laker. Jamal goes, no, no, no, I'm playing.

2253
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 4: I'm playing. I'm gonna be out there on the floor,

2254
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 4: and he did so. Keep in mind he's fighting through

2255
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 4: a lot.

2256
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 2: End of the year, like nobody's one hundred percent. It's

2257
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 2: all just a matter going back to again the management

2258
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 2: of things. Unfortunately you don't have this sixty five game

2259
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 2: threshold in the playoffs. Every game magnified and certainly a

2260
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:09,600
Speaker 2: Game seven which we all celebrate. Coming up, we'll go

2261
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 2: back to the Minnesota side of things. Anthony Etherwards with

2262
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 2: one of the great quotes, and he's given us a

2263
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 2: number over the course of this series, the latest being

2264
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 2: the Game seven, and no, it's got nothing to do

2265
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,679
Speaker 2: with any relation to Michael Jordan.

2266
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:22,759
Speaker 1: He's Ryan Hollinds.

2267
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 2: I'm by Carmen, and this is Fox Sports Sunday on

2268
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in Fox Sports a Radio,

2269
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday.

2270
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 1: He's Ryan Hollinds. I'm by Carmen. Thanks for being with us.

2271
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 1: This morning.

2272
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:40,640
Speaker 2: We witnessed another max Verse stopping win in Italy on

2273
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:45,919
Speaker 2: the F one circuit. The giant bottles on the podium,

2274
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 2: Champagne is for the podium. Of course, got Ango's Premier

2275
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 2: League soccer gonna kick off in about ten minutes from

2276
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 2: now Man City getting after it. Arsenal right behind them

2277
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,719
Speaker 2: in the standings, two points behind.

2278
01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 1: Say, I'm a big nerd.

2279
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,839
Speaker 2: We've got so much hoarding activity those two game sevens

2280
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 2: Ryan that we've got later on and talking about Denver

2281
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:11,759
Speaker 2: and the veteran acumen that they've got and the team

2282
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 2: relationship Michael Malone, et cetera. One of my favorite quotes

2283
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:22,679
Speaker 2: from Anthony Edwards, who's been given us just gold right

2284
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 2: taking responsibility, when he said, my energy isn't right, you know,

2285
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 2: and I to repeded us in things that you normally

2286
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 2: don't get the candor, especially with younger players to that

2287
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 2: level that he's been standing out now. Obviously a lot

2288
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 2: of people doing those morphing Edwards into Jordan things has

2289
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 2: been kind of a little creepy, but.

2290
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 1: Hey, it is what it is.

2291
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 2: But he was asked about the Timberwolves wanting to win

2292
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 2: game seven for Mike Conley, who's over foreign game sevens

2293
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 2: in his career. Unfortunately, the audio quality isn't up to

2294
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 2: par and broadcast standards through our guys Shay because He

2295
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 2: evalued this one and tried to parse it out however

2296
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 2: he could, So we'll.

2297
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 1: Do the dramatic reading quote. I want to wait for myself.

2298
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 2: I wasn't with Mike whenever he was playing Game seven,

2299
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 2: so that has nothing to do with me. You go,

2300
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 2: young man, How great is that I didn't play on

2301
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 2: those teams.

2302
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 1: I got nothing to.

2303
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 3: Do with his OZ and four by me. He's honest, dude,

2304
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 3: He's ho.

2305
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. He's becoming a folk hero.

2306
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 2: It's like we love the Knicks for the on court

2307
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 2: throwback kind of basketball. I'm gonna I may be losing

2308
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 2: lins like I'm in a mony Python sketch, but I'm

2309
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 2: playing my forty minutes.

2310
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 1: Damn it.

2311
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 2: I thought I'm gonna keep going. Now you got Anthony Edwards.

2312
01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 2: Anytime he's asked a question, the man has no filter.

2313
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 3: He's got zero filter. He's got zero filter.

2314
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 2: Which is good and bad for the league because eventually

2315
01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna say something to get himself in trouble.

2316
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 1: It's just the law of averages, like all of us

2317
01:55:57,880 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 1: you're on radio.

2318
01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 4: That's kind of the throwback phill of him is that

2319
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 4: he's unapologetic.

2320
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 3: You know you hope he doesn't go over the line.

2321
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 4: Do What you're referring to is like, you know, dude,

2322
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 4: don't don't, don't go over the line.

2323
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 2: There just might be that one point where you get

2324
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 2: too candid about a team's performance and someone in the

2325
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 2: locker room, coach or player, takes it the wrong way

2326
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 2: or interprets, Oh, he was calling me out without calling

2327
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 2: me out, and all of a sudden, we've got, you know,

2328
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 2: a little bit of drama in the in the background.

2329
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. It's like, you know, that sometimes

2330
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 2: can lend itself to that. But so long as he's saying, hey,

2331
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 2: this is on me, yeah, all, it's good.

2332
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what we hope.

2333
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 4: But I think I think more so you're you're saying,

2334
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 4: you know, much bigger trouble than we're not talking basketball

2335
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 4: Trump what you're saying, No.

2336
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm certainly not implying that.

2337
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 4: No, No, you're you're saying you you worry that he

2338
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 4: gets in basketball.

2339
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 2: Truble basketball trouble to where it just because look, you

2340
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 2: never know what's gonna happen. I mean like nowadays, no

2341
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 2: matter what you say, you're going to find some fraction

2342
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 2: of people that deciding that you should be sent away.

2343
01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:11,839
Speaker 2: I mean that, you know, to the to the penalty

2344
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 2: box of nothing else. That's the nature of the business.

2345
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but you're I think the excitement with him

2346
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 4: you're bringing up is that he's unapologetic. Hey, I'm the

2347
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 4: best player on the floor. You got to come and

2348
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 4: beat me. The trash talk is there. You know, you're

2349
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 4: not as good as I like give me he's saying,

2350
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 4: he said all these things. He's just giving it. He's

2351
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 4: given it to you, and he's backing it up, and

2352
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 4: he's exciting to watch, and you know it's it's that's

2353
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 4: where the Jordan has feel is because when we talk

2354
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 4: about Jordan, the big part of Jordan's legacy, a big

2355
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 4: part of Kobe's legacy was the trash talk. It was

2356
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 4: that you cannot see me, you're not better than me.

2357
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 4: And that's what we're seeing from Anthony Edwards. So as

2358
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 4: long as he backs it up, man, we are excited.

2359
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, you gotta admit, you know, if you're if

2360
01:57:57,560 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 4: you're tos pr man, every time that he steps up

2361
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 4: to the podium, you're nervous. He's gonna he's gonna say anything,

2362
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 4: but I think the sports community has been falling in

2363
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:08,440
Speaker 4: love with them.

2364
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 3: Man.

2365
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you see the highlight video reels.

2366
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 2: I mean certainly there all year long, averaging nearly twenty

2367
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 2: six points a game, all of that stuff that rolls through.

2368
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 2: You got another team that becomes relevant, which again is

2369
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 2: good because it allowed us a bunch of throwbacks to

2370
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 2: the Garnett and Marbury years, right, and what they were

2371
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 2: doing some of the old ads they used to do.

2372
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 2: Remember the old ESPN, the magazine. Go and look that

2373
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 2: up on your own time, folks. The Google machine will

2374
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 2: help you along the way. But it's it's the kind

2375
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 2: of thing that you know, you're always looking for more stars,

2376
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 2: and as you've talked about, and we've talked about quite

2377
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 2: a bit, the number of stars that are hitting. We

2378
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 2: age ourselves, right, talking going back to Ilo joking about

2379
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 2: hair and me talking about you know, sitting in the

2380
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 2: barber chair yesterday and having the sad moments with that

2381
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 2: with intertwined with Abba is the reality that we age ourselves,

2382
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 2: but we don't necessarily age the guys we're watching. And

2383
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 2: then except when it becomes the leading factor, right, Tom

2384
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 2: Brady was the forty five year old quarterback, forty five

2385
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 2: year old Tom Brady, thirty nine year old Lebron James

2386
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 2: when it becomes the defining factor. But that's kind of

2387
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 2: where we're hitting with Steph and Durant and all these

2388
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,080
Speaker 2: guys were we need the new blood. And if Anthony

2389
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 2: Edwards is the guy that leads that next parade and

2390
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 2: he's going to do that at the mic, I'm.

2391
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 1: All for it.

2392
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 4: No, hey, listen, I think is good for the game.

2393
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 4: He's exciting, he's fun, and you know what, he's opinionated.

2394
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 2: He no, he's leaving no stone unturned at the Ryan

2395
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 2: Hollins where you find me, find me over at Swallowing

2396
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 2: Down Hobur three coming up.

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